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Title: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: bebop396 on March 23, 2008, 09:00:59 AM
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: affeman on March 23, 2008, 09:23:10 AM
Doesn't look worse than Cutler nowadays (and this dude is Mr. Olympia)....
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Rearden Metal on March 23, 2008, 09:26:11 AM
Crazy. Had he focused on refining his mass, bringing in his stomach and a little more quads, he'd have been top 6 at any show. It's easy to see what MuscleTech saw in him.

That back double bi is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: tweeter on March 23, 2008, 09:26:23 AM
wow, he looks pretty decent especially his back
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: affeman on March 23, 2008, 09:32:00 AM
hahaha, when they hug in the end of the vid. He is soooooooo much bigger than everyone else, crazy!!! :o

Looks like a regular guy in a village of dwarfs....
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: willie mosconi on March 23, 2008, 09:55:26 AM
I agree, he had a chance with that physique, but he ruined it- presumably Dave Palumbo style- GH, insulin, and overeating
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: m8 on March 23, 2008, 10:00:38 AM
Nice nipples.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: stormshadow on March 23, 2008, 10:03:34 AM
Crazy. Had he focused on refining his mass, bringing in his stomach and a little more quads, he'd have been top 6 at any show. It's easy to see what MuscleTech saw in him.

That back double bi is pretty awesome.

How do you focus on bringing down your stomach?  We all know that line is BS.  The only way to bring it down is to stop the insulin, GH, and IGF, but then they lose muscle size with it.

His back looks pretty good.  He was pretty dry in that contest, but the gut was still huge and he has synthol peaks on his biceps.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Fulgorre on March 23, 2008, 10:19:36 AM
He almost had it all.  By gym standards perfect.  By pro standards just a little light in the upper lags and waist a little too big.  But I'm really picking on him with those points.  Damn him!  What went wrong!  He was pretty good at one point!
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Purge_WTF on March 23, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
I agree, he had a chance with that physique, but he ruined it- presumably Dave Palumbo style- GH, insulin, and overeating

  Exactly. He was no Dexter Jackson, but he at least had a chance back then.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Rearden Metal on March 23, 2008, 10:49:38 AM
How do you focus on bringing down your stomach?  We all know that line is BS.  The only way to bring it down is to stop the insulin, GH, and IGF, but then they lose muscle size with it.

His back looks pretty good.  He was pretty dry in that contest, but the gut was still huge and he has synthol peaks on his biceps.

Diet more and focus on holding in your stomach all day, every day.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: BayGBM on March 23, 2008, 10:54:44 AM
What year was that... ?  He looked very decent.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: MCWAY on March 23, 2008, 02:25:21 PM
What year was that... ?  He looked very decent.

I believe that the 1996 Canadian Nationals, where he won his pro card.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Stavios on March 23, 2008, 04:08:28 PM
his back was incredible

even at the 2004 ASC, looking like shit, he had the thickest back of the show
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: kyomu on March 23, 2008, 04:16:48 PM
Even at his best, he looked like shit. He shouldnt get a pro card.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: oldman on March 23, 2008, 07:28:11 PM
wtf happened?
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: RagingBull on March 23, 2008, 07:48:42 PM
I'd like to see his '96 face compared to his '08 face...2 completely different people.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Matt C on March 23, 2008, 08:02:48 PM
I have to say, he looks very, very good there!  He is around the same height as Gunter and was 308 at that contest.  Gunter was 300 in 2002 and 295 in 2005.  How do you suppose he would compare to Gunter strictly in terms of sheer size?  Obviously Gunter would be the superior bodybuilder, but size wise, what would you say?

Here is another clip from a 1990 contest:

Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: YoungBlood on March 23, 2008, 08:08:00 PM
He's put together very oddly. Good shoulder size, but little arms. Thick chest, but a barrel waist to go with it. Huge back, but from the front his lats seems to be thin- though from the back he's thick as hell. Quads are small for his frame too.
Too bad he went, not just for mass, but for all out mass MuscleTech style. I remember reading a lot of those ads- I mean articles! He was up to 400lbs at one point. I think it was 406, and MT said they would bring him to the Olympia stage at 350lbs RIPPED.
Didn't happen, obviously. :-\
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: webcake on March 23, 2008, 08:10:40 PM
He's put together very oddly. Good shoulder size, but little arms. Thick chest, but a barrel waist to go with it. Huge back, but from the front his lats seems to be thin- though from the back he's thick as hell. Quads are small for his frame too.
Too bad he went, not just for mass, but for all out mass MuscleTech style. I remember reading a lot of those ads- I mean articles! He was up to 400lbs at one point. I think it was 406, and MT said they would bring him to the Olympia stage at 350lbs RIPPED.
Didn't happen, obviously. :-\

At the 04(?) AC, he was 335lbs. He was rumored to be 440 at one stage, i dont believe it, but he did get over 400. Just crazy :o
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Matt C on March 23, 2008, 08:19:42 PM
One of Greg's preparation pictures before the 2004 ASC:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gregkovacs

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gregkovacs/gregkovacs11.jpg)
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: YoungBlood on March 23, 2008, 08:23:44 PM
At the 04(?) AC, he was 335lbs. He was rumored to be 440 at one stage, i dont believe it, but he did get over 400. Just crazy :o

Oh I believe that he was well over 300lbs at pretty much all of his contests. The part when I said "didn't happen obviously," was where he stepped on the Olympia stage at 350lbs."
I totally believe that he got up to well over 400lbs too.
But either way, being that big, he was not a pretty site.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Matt C on March 23, 2008, 08:32:57 PM
Some who live in southern Ontario where he lives say they see him sometimes and he is literally a wall of muscle at 6'2 and close to 400 pounds in at a lean body fat - big midsection, but actually quite lean.

Greg at 385 pounds in late 2003 from my [dead as fuck] forum:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=96

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2&stc=1&d=1072022254)

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3&stc=1&d=1072022317)
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Epic_Monster on March 23, 2008, 09:13:41 PM
Big bastard!! Thick waist though!!
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: nycbull on March 24, 2008, 01:33:33 AM
wow, looks great in that fist video, never knew he looked that good and had such a good presence on stage... great posing routine
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: m8 on March 24, 2008, 03:01:20 AM
One of Greg's preparation pictures before the 2004 ASC:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gregkovacs

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gregkovacs/gregkovacs11.jpg)

Is that King Kamali's kitchen?

(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gregkovacs9.jpg)
(http://www.davepalumbo.com/Rxmuscle2/Rxmusclewriters/Bio%20pic%20of%20Kovacs.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/gregkovacs6.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/113/images/Greg_Kovacs_18.jpg)
(http://i3.tinypic.com/wkl5s4.jpg)
(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/RandomActs_UglyBodybuilders/image007.png)
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Beefjake on March 24, 2008, 04:28:59 AM
Were any of those strength even close to real?

Maybe he should have tried some strongman stuff...
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: kevcat on March 24, 2008, 05:28:55 AM
damn he looks so much wose in the more recent pics, but he did look pretty decent at one time
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: 240 is Back on March 24, 2008, 06:02:37 AM
yeah that back looked incredible.  Dude is a legit 400 pounds offseason... that's 80+ more than Ronnie and jay hit.

I'd like to see some stage pics of Kovaks next to the biggest TOP guys of his day, to see how much bigger he really was.  I'm guessing he didn't get too many comparisons tho, huh?
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Playboy on March 24, 2008, 06:30:07 AM
wtf happened?
HGH / IGF-1 / SLIN abuse beyond belief.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: michael arvilla on March 24, 2008, 06:58:52 AM
yeah that back looked incredible.  Dude is a legit 400 pounds offseason... that's 80+ more than Ronnie and jay hit.

I'd like to see some stage pics of Kovaks next to the biggest TOP guys of his day, to see how much bigger he really was.  I'm guessing he didn't get too many comparisons tho, huh?

Rob i have seen Greg in person a few times..............in terms of sheer size he dwarfed all of the Pros competing
(i have never seen a "larger" human being, Greg drew a crowd just by walking around the Mr Olympia convention center.............this was years ago in New York at Madison Square Garden)
Inhuman size!!..............also he was much taller than 100% of the pros at the O
now none of this translated onto a bodybuilding stage .............Greg just wasn't "suited" for bodybuilding
strongman/powerlifting yes................looki ng unbelievable walking around at bodybuilding shows yes
making money being huge freaky (but not competing in bodybuilding contests)   yes!
unfortunately Greg wanted nothing more than to be a champion bodybuilder (he loved the sport)
and he believed all of the hype!
(buy/rent his old bodybuilding DVD Colossus )
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 24, 2008, 07:21:50 AM
WHoa re the little africans in that video?  Kind of an odd contest.  Dude looks like a balloon that deflated and imploded on itself.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: CigaretteMan on March 24, 2008, 08:47:35 AM
  Greg Kovacs was 400 lbs with a visible christmas-tree and six-pack, and his top off-season weight was 440 lbs while still displaying vascularity and bodyfat wthin the normal range.

  His phsyique was terrible from a symmetry&skeletal structure standpoint, but in sheer muscular mass he dwarfs all other mass monsters like Ruhl, Fux, Nasser, Ronnie, etc.

  I would love to have seen a ripped 370 lbs Kovacs stepping onstage at the 2003 Olympia. As unbelievable as it is, he would have dwarfed Ronnie. Sure, Ron would still win easily, but for reasons other than mass...
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: MCWAY on March 24, 2008, 10:05:48 AM
Even at his best, he looked like shit. He shouldnt get a pro card.

Why not? The Canadian Nationals was/is a pro qualifier, which Kovacs won.

Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Playboy on March 24, 2008, 10:49:02 AM
Greg Kovacs was nothing but HYPE. He isn't even a has been. He's a never was. Talk about a waste of a bbdg career and sponsership. You reap what you sow.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: MAXX on March 24, 2008, 11:56:48 AM
wow he looked damn good for such a tall guy in that first video. impressive.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Slintowin4424 on March 24, 2008, 12:38:28 PM
Really the biggest of the problems was not distention but the width of his waist ??? with that being said as a pro his legs were not that  great either
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: mass 04 on March 24, 2008, 12:48:49 PM
Should have been a wrestler or something.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: PANDAEMONIUM on March 24, 2008, 01:04:31 PM
Some who live in southern Ontario where he lives say they see him sometimes and he is literally a wall of muscle at 6'2 and close to 400 pounds in at a lean body fat - big midsection, but actually quite lean.

Greg at 385 pounds in late 2003 from my [dead as fuck] forum:

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=96

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2&stc=1&d=1072022254)

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3&stc=1&d=1072022317)

No way is he 385 in those pics.  Maybe 330 or so MAX.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: willie mosconi on March 24, 2008, 01:33:47 PM
Were any of those strength even close to real?

Maybe he should have tried some strongman stuff...


If I recall correctly, almost all of his really heavy lifts were on the smith machine, making them irrelevant pretty much
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Beefjake on March 24, 2008, 02:08:00 PM
If I recall correctly, almost all of his really heavy lifts were on the smith machine, making them irrelevant pretty much

Ok - cool

Of course I meant strength claims...
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Matt C on March 24, 2008, 10:55:44 PM
Were any of those strength even close to real?

Maybe he should have tried some strongman stuff...


I heard from someone who knew Greg back in the day that some of the claims were accurate but some were exaggerated.  He was as strong as a bull, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: England_1 on March 24, 2008, 11:36:04 PM
  Greg Kovacs was 400 lbs with a visible christmas-tree and six-pack, and his top off-season weight was 440 lbs while still displaying vascularity and bodyfat wthin the normal range.

  His phsyique was terrible from a symmetry&skeletal structure standpoint, but in sheer muscular mass he dwarfs all other mass monsters like Ruhl, Fux, Nasser, Ronnie, etc.

  I would love to have seen a ripped 370 lbs Kovacs stepping onstage at the 2003 Olympia. As unbelievable as it is, he would have dwarfed Ronnie. Sure, Ron would still win easily, but for reasons other than mass...

Hi Sucky  :D

  At his absolute peak, Kovacs was 440 lbs, but with a bodyfat around 15%.

  Hope this helps. Kovacs has terrible bodybuilding genetics, but a monstrous one for size and strengh.

  SUCKMYMUSCLE

And please, don't bother with that rubbish about having a different IP. It's most likely that you changed ISP's or are using a program to hide or change your IP address  ;D
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: RZA on March 25, 2008, 05:04:16 AM
Even at his most shredded, Kovacs never had any decent muscle separation. Legs, triceps, delts, etc...his whole physique is one massive blur.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Playboy on March 25, 2008, 06:36:27 AM
If I recall correctly, almost all of his really heavy lifts were on the smith machine, making them irrelevant pretty much
You are 100% correct. He trained at the Gold's in my area for 8 years straight and in that time I never once saw him lift or do anything that the mags say he can do. It was all a hype effort by muscle tech. He never did more than 3-4 plates on the smith for chest and 2 & 1/4 maybe three plates on a good day for front smith machine presses for shoulders.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: GRACETOUCH on March 25, 2008, 09:19:06 AM
HGH / IGF-1 / SLIN abuse beyond belief.
agree
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Matt C on March 25, 2008, 08:00:20 PM
How does Greg in that form compare to Armin Scholz who did not place at this year's Ironman?

Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: BayGBM on March 25, 2008, 10:50:24 PM
How does Greg in that form compare to Armin Scholz who did not place at this year's Ironman?



Don't go there!
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: CigaretteMan on March 25, 2008, 11:13:07 PM
Hi Sucky  :D

And please, don't bother with that rubbish about having a different IP. It's most likely that you changed ISP's or are using a program to hide or change your IP address  ;D

  You are really stupid, aren't you? So I provide an information that is similar to that provided by another poster and surprise, surprise!, the only possibility you see is that I'm actually him, huh? It never ocurred to you that information was written in magazine and read by tens of thousands of people; it never ocurred to you that I might have read it in his post and plagiarised what he wrote. No: I can only possibily be him! Great logic there. Let me guess, you don't make a living in one of the professions. Am I right?

  As for the IP check, if you had half a brain you'd know that IP adress is geographical and allocated by the internet provider and cannot be masked in any way, shape or form. Since I don't even live in U.S.A - I am French, btw -, a simple IP check will prove you wrong conclusively. Of course, you don't want this because it would burst your bubble and your hopes of reencountering your hero and gay lover, Suckmymuscle. This is the last time I'm responding to you. Ron Avidan can confirm that my IP is not his, and that's that. If you still want to believe I'm him, then so be it.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2008, 10:13:32 AM
HGH / IGF-1 / SLIN abuse beyond belief.
\

100% correct and don't leave out the fact that he became a lazy trainer ala King Kamali....1/4 rep shit as heavy as possible all the while using the least amount of energy to actually train...
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: kcballer on March 26, 2008, 10:52:44 AM
Wide waist is a problem but he could have 'hidden' it better with greater quad development, esp in the sweep.   Although not even platz quads would have helped him later on his waist became about as wide as his shoulders.  Disgusting waste of food and gear that could have gone to starving african bodybuilders. 
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: bebop396 on March 26, 2008, 11:29:48 AM
Without a doubt, he made a name for himself in the industry...
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Playboy on March 26, 2008, 11:54:06 AM
Without a doubt, he made a name for himself in the industry...
Yup....he got the name of the biggest hype and faker around who couldn't compete if his life depended on it.  :-\
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: bebop396 on March 27, 2008, 02:29:47 PM
Yup....he got the name of the biggest hype and faker around who couldn't compete if his life depended on it.  :-\

The weightlifting video was very fake and disappointing....But the dude was one huge mo fo and got a lot of press for it....I was let down that he never did well in competition back sometime in the last nineties....I remember he was suspected of having something going on in his shoulders, implants maybe....

Anyways, he aint paying my bills so i could care less...I just think he was one freaky huge dude....
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: donrhummy on March 27, 2008, 05:11:25 PM
He wasn't bad but never had the legs for it.

(http://www.darkwoods.com/bodybuilder/male/bb/gallery/fullsize/kovacs22.jpg)

Of course, later he looked a little different....
(http://bp0.blogger.com/_1x3Muszp5gY/Rf8s24hU9HI/AAAAAAAAASA/mhEBgrTkd9U/s320/greg_kovac_11.jpg)
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: donrhummy on March 27, 2008, 05:13:28 PM
I beleive this is the definition of Palumboism:

(http://www.femininebeauty.info/i/greg.kovacs.jpg)
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: nycbull on March 27, 2008, 08:41:47 PM
Yup....he got the name of the biggest hype and faker around who couldn't compete if his life depended on it.  :-\

did you watch the fist video at all?, doesnt seem like a fake to me, had size plus stage presence, and agile posing style, remined me more of the golden agers, then the freak peole said he was. I dont get it,

also I dont think there is anything with wide hips on a bb, it is actually more aesthetic than some tiny girly waist.
Title: Re: Greg Kovaks at his best...
Post by: Playboy on March 28, 2008, 12:28:32 PM
did you watch the fist video at all?, doesnt seem like a fake to me, had size plus stage presence, and agile posing style, remined me more of the golden agers, then the freak peole said he was. I dont get it,

also I dont think there is anything with wide hips on a bb, it is actually more aesthetic than some tiny girly waist.
Your also talking about a video that was made in 1996. We are in 2008. He looks knowhere near what he looked like then and regardless he still wouldn't crack 15th at a show.