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Title: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: bizzy on May 08, 2008, 09:15:48 PM
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Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: donrhummy on May 08, 2008, 09:22:24 PM
Hate to say it but there's been no progress. Arnold looks better. His calves are better, his back is better, his arms are better, his proportion's better and his posing's better.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Danimal77 on May 08, 2008, 09:46:58 PM
Arnold WAS a beast and if he competed in the 1990's, he would have DESTROYED Yates and Coleman.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: onlyme on May 08, 2008, 09:52:52 PM
The thing is the guys back then had pride.  They lived the BB life almost constantly.  The majority of them came in shape when they guest posed.  The trained together then went and played together.  The guys today rely way to much on drugs and are basically lazy unless training for a show.  That is why they look like shit when they guest pose and in the off season.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: willie mosconi on May 08, 2008, 10:28:55 PM
Hate to say it but there's been no progress. Arnold looks better. His calves are better, his back is better, his arms are better, his proportion's better and his posing's better.

I totally disagree. Wolf has a far superior physique
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Swedish Viking on May 08, 2008, 10:44:30 PM
I agree.  Arnold's physique is more appealing to me but seriously he would get beat real bad standing next to the guys of today.  And that's the way it should be!  The sport has progressed, maybe not in ways that people like but the competitors have gotten bigger and more shredded.  I think that even the smaller competitors on the O stage today would beat '74 Arnold, despite the fact that that was his best year, and if I were him, I wouldn't be embarassed about that-that's how things evolve.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Emmortal on May 08, 2008, 10:47:13 PM
  That is why they look like shit when they guest pose and in the off season.

Really?  These are all recent pics of Wolf, not looking like shit at all in the offseason:



Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Emmortal on May 08, 2008, 10:48:04 PM
More:
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: calmus on May 08, 2008, 10:50:58 PM

Arnold's real measurements

Chest: 50 inches

Arms: 19 inches

He could also only bench 365 lbs for reps and 405 on a good day.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Matt C on May 08, 2008, 11:02:04 PM
Arnold's real measurements

Chest: 50 inches

Arms: 19 inches

He could also only bench 365 lbs for reps and 405 on a good day.

Hope this helps.

We agree on something.  ;D
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: genrommel74 on May 09, 2008, 12:06:10 AM
We agree on something.  ;D

who cares
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: JasonH on May 09, 2008, 12:47:24 AM
Arnold's real measurements

Chest: 50 inches

Arms: 19 inches

He could also only bench 365 lbs for reps and 405 on a good day.

Hope this helps.

I can believe the benching figures but there's no way Arnold only had a 19 inch arm. I mean, my arm is 19in and it looks absolutely puny compared with Arnold's.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: affeman on May 09, 2008, 01:00:39 AM
I can believe the benching figures but there's no way Arnold only had a 19 inch arm. I mean, my arm is 19in and it looks absolutely puny compared with Arnold's.

Why not? Arnold had NO TRICEPS AT ALL, and the triceps usually makes 2/3s of an arm. Only monster biceps peaks when he flexed, due to monster local oil-based roid injections on a daily basis....

And if Arnold had been only close to the conditioning competitors have nowadays his arms would have been at least another inch smaller. :D

But allright guys. Keep tellin' yaself that there has been no progress in the past 34 years lol... ::)

(http://www.ljplus.ru/img/u/d/udar/Ronnie-Colimen-vs-Arnold-Shvarzneger.jpg)
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Jeffro on May 09, 2008, 01:07:55 AM
No matter what I would rather have Arnold's physique
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: kyomu on May 09, 2008, 01:12:50 AM
I can believe the benching figures but there's no way Arnold only had a 19 inch arm. I mean, my arm is 19in and it looks absolutely puny compared with Arnold's.
HIghly agreed. Mines are 19inchs now too. But Arnolds arms look way bigger than mine. I think 21-22.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Jeffro on May 09, 2008, 01:15:49 AM
Remember the man is six foot two.  i think its quite believable that his arms would be over 20 inches.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: donrhummy on May 09, 2008, 01:34:29 AM
Why not? Arnold had NO TRICEPS AT ALL, and the triceps usually makes 2/3s of an arm. Only monster biceps peaks when he flexed, due to monster local oil-based roid injections on a daily basis....


Oh, yeah, they were tiny.  ::) ::)
(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/121949/17.jpg)
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: affeman on May 09, 2008, 06:03:08 AM
Oh, yeah, they were tiny.  ::) ::)
(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/121949/17.jpg)

shopped. Arnold's triceps never even looked close to that..... ::) ::)
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: phyxsius on May 09, 2008, 06:47:36 AM
I totally disagree. Wolf has a far superior physique

you are a lazy slob and on drugs just like today's pro
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Stu on May 09, 2008, 07:00:29 AM
All I know is I'd never want to look like this "Wolf" character "Arnold" looks a lot better IMO.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Moosejay on May 09, 2008, 07:04:04 AM
Why not? Arnold had NO TRICEPS AT ALL, and the triceps usually makes 2/3s of an arm. Only monster biceps peaks when he flexed, due to monster local oil-based roid injections on a daily basis....

And if Arnold had been only close to the conditioning competitors have nowadays his arms would have been at least another inch smaller. :D

But allright guys. Keep tellin' yaself that there has been no progress in the past 34 years lol... ::)

(http://www.ljplus.ru/img/u/d/udar/Ronnie-Colimen-vs-Arnold-Shvarzneger.jpg)

Arnold wins just on that fact he is not wearing that stupid marble-sack ala Coleman.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Moosejay on May 09, 2008, 07:05:23 AM
All I know is I'd never want to look like this "Wolf" character "Arnold" looks a lot better IMO.

Bingo.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: m8 on May 09, 2008, 07:07:53 AM
Wolf is incredible, just what bodybuilding needed at the right time.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: The Coach on May 09, 2008, 07:11:54 AM
Arnold is light years ahead of Wolf. When Arnold poses, his muscles explode.......Wolf poses, nothing happends. He's just big, no quality. Plus Arnold is proabably 20lbs lighter and looks at least 15lbs heavier with better quality of muscle.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Moosejay on May 09, 2008, 07:23:01 AM
Coach...I agree.

None of these guys touch Arnold...or many of the guys of that era.

the younger guys here just never experienced the truth, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 09, 2008, 08:08:42 AM
Arnold is light years ahead of Wolf. When Arnold poses, his muscles explode.......Wolf poses, nothing happends. He's just big, no quality. Plus Arnold is proabably 20lbs lighter and looks at least 15lbs heavier with better quality of muscle.

Good Point.


WOOOSSHHHHH   !!!!!
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: knny187 on May 09, 2008, 10:53:22 AM
Arnold is light years ahead of Wolf. When Arnold poses, his muscles explode.......Wolf poses, nothing happends. He's just big, no quality. Plus Arnold is proabably 20lbs lighter and looks at least 15lbs heavier with better quality of muscle.

Joe

It's interesting you say that.  I find now a days bodybuilders look like they are always flexed.  I remember reading it one time on an article arnold wrote.  He said some bodybuilders because of their lifting styles always look the same wether they're flexed or not.  Arnold believe because of his ability to 'come to life' when he flexed is one of the reasons why he did so well.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Howard on May 09, 2008, 11:02:26 AM
I agree.  Arnold's physique is more appealing to me but seriously he would get beat real bad standing next to the guys of today.  And that's the way it should be!  The sport has progressed, maybe not in ways that people like but the competitors have gotten bigger and more shredded.  I think that even the smaller competitors on the O stage today would beat '74 Arnold, despite the fact that that was his best year, and if I were him, I wouldn't be embarassed about that-that's how things evolve.
Arnold had one of the great all time CLASSIC physiques and I prefer that kind. But when judging on size, thickness, muscularity, Wolf is light yrs ahead.  Having said that, why does a bodybuilder need to be BIGGER than Arnold?
I honestly don't think bigger is always better.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: donrhummy on May 09, 2008, 12:07:48 PM
shopped. Arnold's triceps never even looked close to that..... ::) ::)

That's not photoshopped i have the original mag that it was in (from the 70's). It's real.

There's also another pic out there where Arnold's flexing his tricep for some woman (according to the caption) passing by and it's huge there too.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Jeffro on May 09, 2008, 12:59:55 PM
Its sad that the look that Arnold possessed would not be rewarded on a pro stage anymore  :'(
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: calmus on May 09, 2008, 01:08:20 PM
Its sad that the look that Arnold possessed would not be rewarded on a pro stage anymore  :'(

If Arnold walked on stage with the attitude he had in the mid-70s, the judges would reward his physique.  You would have standing there supremely confident, whereas the Dexter jacksons and jay cutlers of today would be standing there looking like cardboard cutouts. 
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Jeffro on May 09, 2008, 01:19:13 PM
I definitely prefer Arnold's physique over Wolf's, but under today's judging criteria Wolf is going to be at the top of the sport for years to come.  Arnold symbolizes the great classic physiques of years past and Wolf represents now and the future.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Moosejay on May 09, 2008, 07:32:11 PM
No.

Wolf will never win. He will never be at the top.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: willie mosconi on May 09, 2008, 10:18:38 PM
Everybody is just stuck in nostalgia land. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Wolf's physique, whereas Arnold's physique is very flawed comparatively. Stop thinking of the name and the legend and you will see the truth. It isn't even close. Seriously, Wolf should have been first or second in the O last year and should be in major contention. He has no real flaws.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: nder98 on May 09, 2008, 11:44:54 PM
Really?  These are all recent pics of Wolf, not looking like shit at all in the offseason:





If this guy doesn't win the O this year, I couldnt stand to watch it ever again.....
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Bobby on May 10, 2008, 06:22:44 AM
I like Wolf but in that video he is starting to look more and more like Cutler.

And no question, Arnold wins! 8)
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Moosejay on May 10, 2008, 06:28:13 AM
Everybody is just stuck in nostalgia land. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Wolf's physique, whereas Arnold's physique is very flawed comparatively. Stop thinking of the name and the legend and you will see the truth. It isn't even close. Seriously, Wolf should have been first or second in the O last year and should be in major contention. He has no real flaws.

No.

He looks like all drugs. No such thing as 'cycle' with these guys today.

They get a 'stretch armstrong' look to the max.

Unbelievably fake, plastic look to them all.

Devoid of detail.

Look like they cannot breath.

Like bloated bags of corpulent fat.

Drooling sometimes.

Arnie et al looked like dudes having fun on a beach.

I'd have me some of THAT any day :)
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: kevcat on May 10, 2008, 10:40:52 AM
Why not? Arnold had NO TRICEPS AT ALL, and the triceps usually makes 2/3s of an arm. Only monster biceps peaks when he flexed, due to monster local oil-based roid injections on a daily basis....

And if Arnold had been only close to the conditioning competitors have nowadays his arms would have been at least another inch smaller. :D

But allright guys. Keep tellin' yaself that there has been no progress in the past 34 years lol... ::)

(http://www.ljplus.ru/img/u/d/udar/Ronnie-Colimen-vs-Arnold-Shvarzneger.jpg)

IF Arnold had the drugs these guys have today his arms would be 4 inches bigger more like :D Plus Isnt Wolf older there than Arnold was in that video?? If Arnold kept goin in bodybuilding till he was late 30s who knows how much better he couldve became
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: bizzy on May 10, 2008, 11:54:23 AM
Arnold's triceps were not as good as his biceps
but even a young Arnold had triceps that were
similar in shape to Dorian's, although Arnold had
longer arms. I don't think Arnold necesarily had poor
triceps but that in comparison to his biceps they didn't
match up.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: Matt C on May 10, 2008, 12:01:47 PM
Oh, yeah, they were tiny.  ::) ::)
(http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/121949/17.jpg)

By today's standards, yes.
Title: Re: 34 Years - Wolf/Arnold Guest Posing-Your Opinions...
Post by: kevcat on May 10, 2008, 01:03:58 PM
And whats todays standards Matt???