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Title: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Ron on June 30, 2008, 11:20:32 PM

Interesting how some are predicting that Darrem Charles is going to beat Silvio Samuel in this upcoming weekend's IFBB Houston Pro show.

Silvio is clearly the favorite here, but Darrem can always surprise us, as he has in the past.

I know Silvio is in shape, as we saw at the NPC Junior California show a little over a week ago...

But is Darrem....

Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on June 30, 2008, 11:24:03 PM
Who else will be there?
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on June 30, 2008, 11:25:48 PM
Ok I just saw the competitor list, sorry.  Anybody have top 5 predictions?
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: candidizzle on June 30, 2008, 11:33:25 PM
Ok I just saw the competitor list, sorry.  Anybody have top 5 predictions?
Darrem Charles - USA
Silvio Samuel - Spain
Craig Richardson - USA
Bill Wilmore - USA
Fouad Abiad - Canada
Ray Arde - USA
Armin Scholtz - Germany
Leo Ingram - USA






Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on June 30, 2008, 11:38:01 PM
post it
2008 IFBB Houston Pro
Men's
Fouad Abiad - Canada
Ray Arde - USA
Eric Castagnet - France
Gianluca Catapano - Italy
Darrem Charles - USA
Aiman Faour - Lebanon
Leo Ingram - USA
Pavol Jablonicky - Czech
Ken Jones - USA
Jeffrey Long - USA
Evgeny Mishin - Russia
Craig Richardson - USA
Silvio Samuel - Spain
Armin Scholtz - Germany
Daniele Seccarecci - Italy
Heinz Senior - Venezuela
Bill Wilmore - USA
Nathan Wonsley - USA
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on June 30, 2008, 11:39:32 PM
Not the deepest lineup...
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on June 30, 2008, 11:51:49 PM
1.  Silvio-Im not a fan of his physique, but I think he'll win because of hype
2.  Darrem
3.  Craig Richardson
4.  Fouad Abiad
5.  Wilmore
6.  Armin Scholtz
7.  Leo Ingram
8.  Pavol
9.  Seccarecci
10. Arde
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: candidizzle on July 01, 2008, 12:00:34 AM
 it would be awesome for raig to get 3rd !

dude definitely has a great physique...suppeeeerrrrr aesthetic
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 12:02:27 AM
it would be awesome for raig to get 3rd !

dude definitely has a great physique...suppeeeerrrrr aesthetic
Yes man I agree.  He looks awesome.  If he comes in and nails his condition, he'll get an invite to the O
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: bigdumbbell on July 01, 2008, 12:08:44 AM
silvio will win cause he was great humpin the bed spread
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 12:10:24 AM
silvio will win cause he was great humpin the bed spread
Sad but true  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: genrommel74 on July 01, 2008, 12:30:23 AM
silvio will win cause he was great humpin the bed spread

I was so mad when i saw that, one more thing to link bbing to homos
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: saucetradomous on July 01, 2008, 01:24:49 AM
Interesting how some are predicting that Darrem Charles is going to beat Silvio Samuel in this upcoming weekend's IFBB Houston Pro show.

Silvio is clearly the favorite here, but Darrem can always surprise us, as he has in the past.

I know Silvio is in shape, as we saw at the NPC Junior California show a little over a week ago...

But is Darrem....



I don't see how Silvio is the favorite.  How many pro shows has he won? and how many has Darrem won?  Darrem is never a suprise.  He always comes into the show inshape.  Darrem will best Silvio with ease.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: genrommel74 on July 01, 2008, 01:28:16 AM
I don't see how Silvio is the favorite.  How many pro shows has he won? and how many has Darrem won?  Darrem is never a suprise.  He always comes into the show inshape.  Darrem will best Silvio with ease.

agreed, darrem has more muscle maturity as well
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: saucetradomous on July 01, 2008, 01:33:59 AM
Armin Scholtz will dwarf most of the competition... and if pavol is still in decent form look for him to make top 5.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 01:40:36 AM
Armin Scholtz will dwarf most of the competition... and if pavol is still in decent form look for him to make top 5.
Its just a matter of conditioning with Armin...If he dials it in he'll be a threat
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: alejandro_torres on July 01, 2008, 02:34:22 AM
silvio wins.... darrem second

3..richardson

4..abiad

5.. pavol 8)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Meso_z on July 01, 2008, 02:43:05 AM
Darrem will win.....Silvios physique is just too ugly. at least for me.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: spinnis on July 01, 2008, 02:44:23 AM
I fucking hope silvio doesnt win I think he looks like shit.
Dont like Darrem either because all he does is bicep shots.. Well I atlest hope Darrem gets it.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 02:46:05 AM
silvio wins.... darrem second

3..richardson

4..abiad

5.. pavol 8)
I agree with your top 4.  Not sure if Pavol can grab top 5, though id like to see that.  hes just getting a little older now so i dont know
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: alejandro_torres on July 01, 2008, 02:46:46 AM
I agree with your top 4.  Not sure if Pavol can grab top 5, though id like to see that.  hes just getting a little older now so i dont know

yeah... but it would be great to see that!
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Stavios on July 01, 2008, 04:50:01 AM
Fouad will win  8)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 04:55:48 AM
Fouad will win  8)
That would be cool.  I dont think he has the name quite yet to beat silvio or darrem, though i like his physique much more than those two.  Im calling 4th  8)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: dr.chimps on July 01, 2008, 05:02:04 AM
Darrem will win.....Silvios physique is just too ugly. at least for me.
Agree. Who's got that Silvio/frog diptych? Post it up, pronto!
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Monster_Everything on July 01, 2008, 05:15:35 AM
Can there be any less anticipation for a BB 'contest' ....hahah oh brother, nice fouth of july, spent it watching guys in thongs hahhahah
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: lift 456 on July 01, 2008, 05:18:36 AM
Silvio will come in 2nd.  He probably peaked over a year ago.  Darrm on the other hand is Mr Consistnecy.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Stavios on July 01, 2008, 05:20:53 AM
That would be cool.  I dont think he has the name quite yet to beat silvio or darrem, though i like his physique much more than those two.  Im calling 4th  8)
 

Yessssss he will own the tiny tits

boom  8)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 05:25:45 AM
 

Yessssss he will own the tiny tits

boom  8)
Haha yea he looks great 8)  And hes been getting a lot of coverage in the magazines lately.  one of the best up-and-comers in bodybuilding.  Should definitely do well.  8)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 01, 2008, 07:21:58 AM
Darrem's legs get smaller and smaller with every contest
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: monstercalves on July 01, 2008, 07:40:42 AM
Interesting how some are predicting that Darrem Charles is going to beat Silvio Samuel in this upcoming weekend's IFBB Houston Pro show.

Silvio is clearly the favorite here, but Darrem can always surprise us, as he has in the past.

I know Silvio is in shape, as we saw at the NPC Junior California show a little over a week ago...

But is Darrem....



naaaaa ron.... its darrems show to win he just lost to phil heath of all physiques......and we all know darrem always brings pretty much the same physique........

silvio has the thickness and the legs but....darrem will win this.....the only reason he was outclassed was coz it was phil heath......
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: ibfasport on July 01, 2008, 08:47:51 AM
Italian Daniele Seccarecci 6 weeks ago

(http://www.ibfasport.com/2008/seccarecci1.jpg)

(http://www.ibfasport.com/2008/seccarecci2.jpg)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: gymguy on July 01, 2008, 10:44:44 AM
Silvio 1st.
Darrem 2nd
Craig Richardson 3rd.
As for the rest, doesn't matter a whole lot.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Moosejay on July 01, 2008, 10:47:52 AM
naaaaa ron.... its darrems show to win he just lost to phil heath of all physiques......and we all know darrem always brings pretty much the same physique........

silvio has the thickness and the legs but....darrem will win this.....the only reason he was outclassed was coz it was phil heath......

Charles is more complete than Silvio. He will win.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: littleguns on July 01, 2008, 01:24:19 PM
Darrem is the king of the small shows....all his!
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: saucetradomous on July 01, 2008, 01:38:17 PM
Italian Daniele Seccarecci 6 weeks ago

(http://www.ibfasport.com/2008/seccarecci1.jpg)

(http://www.ibfasport.com/2008/seccarecci2.jpg)


Any shots infront of an open fridge? the lighting is just not the same.

Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Ron on July 01, 2008, 01:56:15 PM
Daniele Seccarecci looks good, but somehow, in the final three days of contest preperation, things just don't work out. I hope they do.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: m8 on July 01, 2008, 02:05:29 PM
Darrem will beat Silvio.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: alejandro_torres on July 01, 2008, 02:43:54 PM
Fouad will win  8)

silvio will win... abiad doesnt have the hype!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: OTHstrong on July 01, 2008, 03:52:51 PM
Ron, I hope you are being sincere over your assessment afterall Silvio is the main man for your supplements. What do you think of Fouad Abiad from Canada? Will he give Silvio a run?
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: ibfasport on July 01, 2008, 04:00:10 PM
Daniele Seccarecci looks good, but somehow, in the final three days of contest preperation, things just don't work out. I hope they do.

everything this time will be OK, and he will bring the title in Italy
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Dballn247 on July 01, 2008, 05:57:10 PM
Kamali 1st. 2nd. kovacs. 3rd. art atwood. 4th ozzy osbourne

LOL but I disagree, I have Kovacs in 1st.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 07:17:32 PM
Daniele Seccarecci looks good, but somehow, in the final three days of contest preperation, things just don't work out. I hope they do.
Top 10 easily if he nails his condition
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: CT_Muscle on July 01, 2008, 07:19:38 PM
Yes man I agree.  He looks awesome.  If he comes in and nails his condition, he'll get an invite to the O

Didn't he get an invite at the NY Pro  ???
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 07:26:43 PM
Didn't he get an invite at the NY Pro  ???
No
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Chick on July 01, 2008, 07:46:00 PM
Craig finished 5th in NY, which qualified the top 5 for the Olympia

No one has (or will) be given a special invite to the Olympia.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: monstercalves on July 01, 2008, 08:06:09 PM
Craig finished 5th in NY, which qualified the top 5 for the Olympia

No one has (or will) be given a special invite to the Olympia.

unless a 260lb bertil fox gets out of the nick and decides he wants a sandow
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 01, 2008, 08:48:59 PM
Didn't he get an invite at the NY Pro  ???
Yes
Title: Long Shot Pick - Jojo Ntiforo
Post by: rienzope on July 02, 2008, 05:53:27 AM
You may not have heard of this guy, He came back at the ironman after a 3 year layoff due to injury.  He didn't fill out enough for that show.  This time he'll be 245-248
Title: Re: Long Shot Pick - Jojo Ntiforo
Post by: Stavios on July 02, 2008, 08:01:18 AM
You may not have heard of this guy, He came back at the ironman after a 3 year layoff due to injury.  He didn't fill out enough for that show.  This time he'll be 245-248

he has all the potential in the world, just needs to get his shit together

he could be a great pro
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Monster81 on July 02, 2008, 08:04:33 AM
WTF that waist does not look real

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=221808.0;attach=259880;image)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 02, 2008, 01:40:30 PM
WTF that waist does not look real

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=221808.0;attach=259880;image)
This is the type of physique that should be rewarded.  Very aesthetic
Title: Re: Long Shot Pick - Jojo Ntiforo
Post by: The Master on July 02, 2008, 01:46:39 PM
You may not have heard of this guy, He came back at the ironman after a 3 year layoff due to injury.  He didn't fill out enough for that show.  This time he'll be 245-248

He won't place well in the IFBB until he adds 15 - 20 inches to that waistline.
Title: Re: Long Shot Pick - Jojo Ntiforo
Post by: Jeffro on July 02, 2008, 01:48:10 PM
He won't place well in the IFBB until he adds 15 - 20 inches to that waistline.
:'(
Title: Re: Long Shot Pick - Jojo Ntiforo
Post by: Parker on July 02, 2008, 01:50:15 PM
You may not have heard of this guy, He came back at the ironman after a 3 year layoff due to injury.  He didn't fill out enough for that show.  This time he'll be 245-248

He's got a Flex Wheeler-sque physique
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: OTHstrong on July 02, 2008, 05:30:42 PM
This is the type of physique that should be rewarded.  Very aesthetic
That waist looks retarded, makes Melvins look big. Who is this guy, he belongs in an Olympia line up.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 02, 2008, 06:07:14 PM
That waist looks retarded, makes Melvins look big. Who is this guy, he belongs in an Olympia line up.
JoJo Ntiforo
won pro card at the 2002 Nationals-won heavyweight class
He hasnt placed in the top ten at a pro contest-placed 11th at the 2005 Ironman Pro
Hopefully he starts getting looked at by the judges
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 02, 2008, 06:10:17 PM
Interesting how some are predicting that Darrem Charles is going to beat Silvio Samuel in this upcoming weekend's IFBB Houston Pro show.

Silvio is clearly the favorite here, but Darrem can always surprise us, as he has in the past.

I know Silvio is in shape, as we saw at the NPC Junior California show a little over a week ago...

But is Darrem....



Darrem is usually consistent with his conditioning and Silvio has competed a few times already should be interesting.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: candidizzle on July 02, 2008, 06:13:19 PM
you cann tell by the "whites" of his eyes, - he is definitely going for the win  :D
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: dov on July 02, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
you cann tell by the "whites" of his eyes, - he is definitely going for the win  :D
RACIST....... ;D
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: candidizzle on July 02, 2008, 06:21:45 PM
RACIST....... ;D
thats not at all what i was saying..  :)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Old-Skool on July 02, 2008, 06:54:58 PM
Agree with Debussey (which is scary if you think about it) but the guys waist needs about 5 yrs of growth and IGF1 to get callout...judges will never reward guy whose thigh bigger than waist..waist must be same size as chest for perfect IFBB pro symmetry  ::)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Moosejay on July 02, 2008, 06:58:39 PM
This is the type of physique that should be rewarded.  Very aesthetic

I am not really one to necessarily know, but mayhaps that waist is shopped?
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 03, 2008, 01:38:47 AM
I am not really one to necessarily know, but mayhaps that waist is shopped?
Possibly, im not an expert on that type of stuff.  Can anyone tell?
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 03, 2008, 01:59:26 AM
Interesting how some are predicting that Darrem Charles is going to beat Silvio Samuel in this upcoming weekend's IFBB Houston Pro show.

Silvio is clearly the favorite here, but Darrem can always surprise us, as he has in the past.

I know Silvio is in shape, as we saw at the NPC Junior California show a little over a week ago...

But is Darrem....


yOU REALLY THINK IN THEIR BEST SHAPE SILVIO BEATS DARREM ? I have them the other way around.

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/40282-3/2001-toronto-pro-38.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=de79351b00cc3daef6c8e6dc219f3b30)

(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/29319-3/2007-arnold-classic-210.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=de79351b00cc3daef6c8e6dc219f3b30)
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 03, 2008, 02:00:31 AM
Silvio looks cracked out  :o
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 03, 2008, 02:00:48 AM
Italian Daniele Seccarecci 6 weeks ago

(http://www.ibfasport.com/2008/seccarecci1.jpg)

(http://www.ibfasport.com/2008/seccarecci2.jpg)

One of the most symetrical fellas right now.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 03, 2008, 02:02:12 AM
One of the most symetrical fellas right now.
I agree he looks great.  I think he'll make top 10 in this lineup
Title: More Jojo
Post by: rienzope on July 03, 2008, 05:53:19 AM
Jojo turned pro at 213lbs, and his waist is the same size now. 

The contest shot is from the ironman, he'll be 10-15lbs heavier for the houston show
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Ron on July 03, 2008, 01:09:11 PM

It will be very interesting on who brings their best to the stage tomorrow evening.

Don't forget, for the smaller competitors, there is also an IFBB 202lb and under show too.

Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Dballn247 on July 03, 2008, 01:55:49 PM
Although Silvio looks really full, Darrem brings a more complete package.  He also has better posing.  It will be interesting to see who shows up in shape.  Hopefully since this is a smaller show, the competitors won't think of it as a warm up show.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: CT_Muscle on July 06, 2008, 11:10:58 AM
One of the most symetrical fellas right now.

That was a joke, right? His arms are almost the same size as his legs  :'(
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Ron on July 06, 2008, 02:25:49 PM
Silvio wins as I predicted... next stop... Mr. Olympia contest.
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 06, 2008, 02:27:40 PM
It wasnt hard to see ahead of time Silvio was gonna win this one
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: GigantorX on July 06, 2008, 03:03:33 PM
With all of the recent "outings" of Pro-BBer's, will the Mr. Olympia "contest" have a G4P division? This would definitely be a huge boon for the IFBB and it's recent attempts at making inroads into the gay community!
Title: Re: Houston Pro: Darrem Charles vs. Silvio Samuel
Post by: Jeffro on July 06, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
With all of the recent "outings" of Pro-BBer's, will the Mr. Olympia "contest" have a G4P division? This would definitely be a huge boon for the IFBB and it's recent attempts at making inroads into the gay community!
The g4p division would probably have the most competitors :-X