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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: jml3001 on August 19, 2008, 03:52:19 PM
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I've been trying a lot of different routines for chest, and nothing seems to add any more mass. I've gone up to 315 on bench, and as low as 185 for 20 reps - nothing gives me a good pump in my chest, and nothing seems to add mass. I have the same problem for biceps. I have a strong back and triceps - but my chest and biceps suck. Any advice on how to increase mass / pump?
Thanks.
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to get a nice pump in the chest mainly upper chest, do a side lateral raise with db's and hold the db's at the top as long as possible. bring your arm's inward to switch it up some
your welcome
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maybe you dont eat enough to grow
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I don't know - I think that might be why I'm not getting any heavier than 205, but I don't think it would be why my chest is not proportional to my back. I think I just have a harder time effectively training chest.
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Perhaps it's your form. Do you flare your elbows or tuck them in? When I tuck mine in it does nothing for me at all.
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I've been trying a lot of different routines for chest, and nothing seems to add any more mass. I've gone up to 315 on bench, and as low as 185 for 20 reps - nothing gives me a good pump in my chest, and nothing seems to add mass. I have the same problem for biceps. I have a strong back and triceps - but my chest and biceps suck. Any advice on how to increase mass / pump?
Thanks.
You've mentioned lifts only for the BB bench. Are you dumbbell benching/shoulder pressing, etc? If not, do that intensely for a few months and get back to us. If you don't get a pump from dumbbells, you might want to consider picking up a new hobby ;D
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Have you tried negatives? Some ideas:
- Doing a dumbell press and lower the weight by making a slow flye movement.
- A machine press with both arms and lower it slowly with 1 arm.
For biceps you can try a heavy single dumbell curl by curling the weight with some help with the other hand (or training partner) and lower it slowly.
With 'slow' I mean 5-10 seconds. Also try to keep continuous tension on your chest by not extending your arms completely.
Give it a try, good luck!
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I've been trying a lot of different routines for chest, and nothing seems to add any more mass. I've gone up to 315 on bench, and as low as 185 for 20 reps - nothing gives me a good pump in my chest, and nothing seems to add mass. I have the same problem for biceps. I have a strong back and triceps - but my chest and biceps suck. Any advice on how to increase mass / pump?
Thanks.
How often do you work chest?
Give us some routine examples.
How often do you change routines?
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Side laterals for chest, makes prefect sense to me ::)
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Maybe you should try actually using that kind of poundage, instead of just imagining it and posting them on the GetBig boards. That will certainly help your weak spot!
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Side laterals for chest, makes prefect sense to me ::)
x2. Worst advice yet.
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Genetics.
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Genetics.
You lack willpower.
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You lack willpower.
You lack worldliness.
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You lack worldliness.
I'm young. I have time to travel and improve my physique. You on the other hand...
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I'm young. I have time to travel and improve my physique. You on the other hand...
I have time to improve my physique...I was referring to HIS genetics and not mine.
Travel is not sufficient; living is and you have claimed you refuse to liver anywhere bu Sydney.
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I am have time to improve my physique...I was referring to HIS genetics and not mine.
Travel is not sufficient; living is and you have claimed you refuse to liver anywhere bu Sydney.
Sydney, best place on Earth
(http://www.studylanguages.org/images/sydney/sydney2.jpg)
On the left of that pic i have fornicated with many females on the grass hill near the bridge.
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I've been trying a lot of different routines for chest, and nothing seems to add any more mass. I've gone up to 315 on bench, and as low as 185 for 20 reps - nothing gives me a good pump in my chest, and nothing seems to add mass. I have the same problem for biceps. I have a strong back and triceps - but my chest and biceps suck. Any advice on how to increase mass / pump?
Thanks.
Do you train legs?
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Sydney, best place on Earth
(http://www.studylanguages.org/images/sydney/sydney2.jpg)
On the left of that pic i have fornicated with many females on the grass hill near the bridge.
::) ::) ::)
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::) ::) ::)
Thats right boy, i keep fucking them hoes
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Thats right boy, i keep fucking them hoes
Is your sister a hoe too? How about your mother? Since you enjoy referring to women as such...
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Is your sister a hoe too? How about your mother? Since you enjoy referring to women as such...
I dont fuck my sister or my mother mate, so no
I love getting my cock sucked by a freaky hoe...Sounds better then "I love getting my sucked by a intelligent girl"
Fuck these hoes, Cmon deicide, fuck a bitch, ease up a little
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Might try dips on a V bar for that over rated pump you crave. Even yet, have the knuckles facing forward and the elbows out wide, tucking the chin in and drawing the legs up at the same time.... Gironda style. You should get a outstanding pec stretch and pump. Drop regular BB BP's for awhile. Not really the best pec builder for most people.
Might also do Pec decks. Elbows on the pads...not with the hands way out. Than do a set of DB BP's right after, no rest. This is the Pre-Exhaust system. Or try the one and one half system with DB's. Lot's of tricks out there to get a good misleading pump. Good Luck
Side Bar: Quickerblade sound like a lot of Aussie surfers I have met in Hawaii,Tonga, Mexico and SoCal. Surfing, rooting & Fosters. Though not always in that order. But always a root rat 24/7.
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try squatting. seems to solve most of my life's problems.
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try squatting. seems to solve most of my life's problems.
Bump for truth.
Arms won't grow? SQUAT!!
Chest won't grow? SQUAT!
and so on...
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Bump for truth.
Arms won't grow? SQUAT!!
Chest won't grow? SQUAT!
and so on...
Some people even say that they will help your legs grow...
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Some people even say that they will help your legs grow...
legs are overrated, nobody sees them. ::) ::)
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maybe you dont eat enough to grow
eating more than necessary doesn't have anything to do with muscle growth, if it did americans would be muscular instead of obese
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eating more than necessary doesn't have anything to do with muscle growth, if it did americans would be muscular instead of obese
Eating about 10-20% above caloric maintenance level could mean a BIG differende. This article shows some excellent guidelines; http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/nutrition_for_newbies_part_2
I would say: "SQUAT and EAT to GROW!" ;D
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i have good arms, back, and shoulders but my chest is smaller than i would like
i've tried everything, nothing works
you can't beat genetics, weak body parts will always be weak body parts
it sucks because when i first started working out, the first thing i wanted was a chest :(
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i have good arms, back, and shoulders but my chest is smaller than i would like
i've tried everything, nothing works
you can't beat genetics, weak body parts will always be weak body parts
it sucks because when i first started working out, the first thing i wanted was a chest :(
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try only isolation moves
and alot of volume
you are right though, you can't beat genetics :(
sorry to hear that Earl
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try only isolation moves
and alot of volume
you are right though, you can't beat genetics :(
sorry to hear that Earl
i've tried everything
it's not working :(
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i've tried everything
it's not working :(
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sorry to hear Earl atleast your other parts are good
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the solution to bringing up a weak body part does not lie within training techniques.
if you are willing to do what it takes shoot me a p.m. ill guide you through the process
Translation: I'll give you my drug dealer's number ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Translation: I'll give you my drug dealer's number ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
100% legal.
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100% legal.
then why don't you post it, i'm sure everybody can benefit from it :)
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then why don't you post it, i'm sure everybody can benefit from it :)
only for those i think deserve to know
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only for those i think deserve to know
do i deserve to know? :D
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do i deserve to know? :D
your afraid of needles, so you wouldnt want to know. ;D
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your afraid of needles, so you wouldnt want to know. ;D
that's true 8)
are you talking about acupuncture? :o :o i can't believe ppl do that voluntarily, my worst nightmare come true >:(
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only for those i think deserve to know
am i among those who deserve to know?
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i have good arms, back, and shoulders but my chest is smaller than i would like
i've tried everything, nothing works
you can't beat genetics, weak body parts will always be weak body parts
it sucks because when i first started working out, the first thing i wanted was a chest :(
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Yeah. I think after a few years you just find out what is ok and what is not. I will never have a good chest but my traps grew like weeds without doing any direct training.....
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Yeah. I think after a few years you just find out what is ok and what is not. I will never have a good chest but my traps grew like weeds without doing any direct training.....
yes i also have well developed traps while only doing 4 - 6 sets per week
i didn't care much about traps when i started training, I WANTED A FUCKING CHEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yes i also have well developed traps while only doing 4 - 6 sets per week
i didn't care much about traps when i started training, I WANTED A FUCKING CHEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You once said you repped 315+ on the incline bench. Even if your chest might not be proportional to the rest of you, Debussey assumes that you are pretty fucking big and strong (given that you did not lie about the lift).
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You once said you repped 315+ on the incline bench. Even if your chest might not be proportional to the rest of you, Debussey assumes that you are pretty fucking big and strong (given that you did not lie about the lift).
that was years ago when i was a fatass, the chest didn't grow :-\
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that was years ago when i was a fatass, the chest didn't grow :-\
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Have you dieted down at this point? What = your weight and lifts now?
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Have you dieted down at this point? What = your weight and lifts now?
i'm about 190 - 192 at the moment
i don't bench any more and never did squats and deadlifts
i use 100 lb dumbells for sets of 10 - 12 on the incline bench
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i'm about 190 - 192 at the moment
i don't bench any more and never did squats and deadlifts
i use 100 lb dumbells for sets of 10 - 12 on the incline bench
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That's pretty good stuff Earl :)
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That's pretty good stuff Earl :)
my chest still sucks :'(
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yes i also have well developed traps while only doing 4 - 6 sets per week
i didn't care much about traps when i started training, I WANTED A FUCKING CHEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Have you thought about getting a "boob job"? ??? ;D
(http://fittipdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/pec-implants1.jpg)
...some god damn dumb people out there :-\
why in the hell would you do that? especially when you look like that
no body even tries lifting weights these days
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i'm about 190 - 192 at the moment
i don't bench any more and never did squats and deadlifts
i use 100 lb dumbells for sets of 10 - 12 on the incline bench
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Lift heavier, sets of 5-6.
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Lift heavier, sets of 5-6.
been there, done that
nothing works :(
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Have you thought about getting a "boob job"? ??? ;D
(http://fittipdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/pec-implants1.jpg)
no ???
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been there, done that
nothing works :(
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Giant sets.......
flat smith machine, free barbell, db, then the same for incline and decline......9 excersices, back to back.......try it for 12 weeks, then go back to regular bbing workouts.
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Lower the weights, raise the rep counts.
Get a good stretch with dumbell flies... maybe try some pullovers across a bench.
do some work more directly on the triceps- maybe you can add some strength to them and in turn, increase your bench strength.
try some good ol fashioned volume work for the burn and the pump- learn to really feel the muscles when you squeeze them.
Eventually you may wanna try some weighted dips on a Roman Chair or a set of parallel bars.