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Title: caveman diet
Post by: HTexan on October 22, 2008, 12:25:35 AM
What do you guys think about the caveman diet?  Great or bullshit ???
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: d0nny2600 on October 22, 2008, 01:07:56 AM
What do you guys think about the caveman diet?  Great or bullshit ???
Useless without pics....or at least a rundown of the diet  ;D
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: HTexan on October 22, 2008, 02:07:08 AM
You eat what was avaiable to cavemen. Meats, fruits, veggies, and nuts. No grains, milk, or process foods. They claim more stable sugar levels, and longer life. 
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: d0nny2600 on October 22, 2008, 02:16:45 AM
You eat what was avaiable to cavemen. Meats, fruits, veggies, and nuts. No grains, milk, or process foods. They claim more stable sugar levels, and longer life. 
It probably does work. Most diets work provided people stick to them.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: DK II on October 22, 2008, 04:52:32 AM
What do you guys think about the caveman diet?  Great or bullshit ???

Are you a caveman??

No?

Then why eat like one?

It's bullshit.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: LatsMcGee on October 23, 2008, 01:36:29 AM
The Paleo Diet is the way to go.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: El_Pajero on October 23, 2008, 01:42:34 AM
Its in my opinion the best diet out there, there is a logical explanation why it works best. Only it is not very easy to maintain and expensive because you can not eat bread, milk, cereals, rice, things like that.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: webcake on October 23, 2008, 01:45:49 AM
Seems like it could be ok.

But then again, eating a balanced and healthy diet is what most people should aim for. Theres no need to follow a paticular type of diet (bb'ers aside of course), if you just want to be healthy. It's very simple really, which makes you wonder why this world is so fucking overweight  ::)
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: wavelength on October 23, 2008, 02:28:54 AM
Seems like it could be ok.

But then again, eating a balanced and healthy diet is what most people should aim for. Theres no need to follow a paticular type of diet (bb'ers aside of course), if you just want to be healthy. It's very simple really, which makes you wonder why this world is so fucking overweight  ::)

The most important aspect of eating is enjoying it.
The sheer masochistic stupidity of most "diets" never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: webcake on October 23, 2008, 02:35:29 AM
The most important aspect of eating is enjoying it.
The sheer masochistic stupidity of most "diets" never ceases to amaze me.

Thats true, but telling people that "enjoying it" is the most important aspect of food often leads to over-indulgence. It may sound obvious to us, but the stats show that it isn't so obvious to some people.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: wavelength on October 23, 2008, 03:11:38 AM
Thats true, but telling people that "enjoying it" is the most important aspect of food often leads to over-indulgence. It may sound obvious to us, but the stats show that it isn't so obvious to some people.

Yes, but I think the biggest problem for people who enjoy food and over-indulge is that they only hear about all those diets which take away everything they like to eat. The most important thing is to tell them that they can still enjoy eating, even when on a weight loss diet. It makes absolutely no sense to put someone on a diet of foods he hates to eat. Nobody can maintain such a diet for very long and nobody should IMO.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: DK II on October 23, 2008, 03:28:28 AM
Yes, but I think the biggest problem for people who enjoy food and over-indulge is that they only hear about all those diets which take away everything they like to eat. The most important thing is to tell them that they can still enjoy eating, even when on a weight loss diet. It makes absolutely no sense to put someone on a diet of foods he hates to eat. Nobody can maintain such a diet for very long and nobody should IMO.

x2.

When i say i keep a strict diet, everyone thinks i only eat chicken and rice 3 times a day.

In fact, i eat everything i want to, i just keep the ratio of clean, healthy, organic foods very high. It tastes better, i feel better as well
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: Deicide on October 24, 2008, 01:40:07 AM
But everyone can drink coffee and take a dump.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: DK II on October 24, 2008, 01:49:27 AM
But everyone can drink coffee and take a dump.

the buddhist flag?

add some olive oil and sea salt and sniff paint thinner three times a day.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: Deicide on October 24, 2008, 01:51:25 AM
the buddhist flag?

add some olive oil and sea salt and sniff paint thinner three times a day.

No; it is the Affrikans flag/standard kept during the Anglo-Boer wars of the late 19th century.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: DK II on October 24, 2008, 01:52:51 AM
No; it is the Affrikans flag/standard kept during the Anglo-Boer wars of the late 19th century.

I was just joking, i didn't know what flag it was, but it's not the buddhist flag.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Flag_of_Buddhism.svg/180px-Flag_of_Buddhism.svg.png)
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: Deicide on October 24, 2008, 01:55:11 AM
I was just joking, i didn't know what flag it was, but it's not the buddhist flag.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Flag_of_Buddhism.svg/180px-Flag_of_Buddhism.svg.png)

Maybe the Boers are secretly buddhists?!
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: DK II on October 24, 2008, 01:58:44 AM
Maybe the Boers are secretly buddhists?!

May be, why not? Or some Gnosticists, who just stole their beliefs from buddhism and mixed it with christianity.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: Deicide on October 24, 2008, 02:01:06 AM
May be, why not? Or some Gnosticists, who just stole their beliefs from buddhism and mixed it with christianity.  ;D ;D

I am realising that many Japanese kanji bear little if any resemblance to their Chinese counterparts. A Chinese friend taught me a few new ones and I looked them up in Japanese and they are totally different.
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: DK II on October 24, 2008, 02:05:21 AM
I am realising that many Japanese kanji bear little if any resemblance to their Chinese counterparts. A Chinese friend taught me a few new ones and I looked them up in Japanese and they are totally different.

i think i already told you about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABjitai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinjitai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Chinese_character

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_character




Kyūjitai: 鐵→Shinjitai: 鉄 (TETSU; iron)

與→与 (On: YO, Kun: ataeru; to bestow, to impart)

學→学 (GAKU, manabu; to learn)

體→体 (TAI, karada; body)

臺→台 (TAI; [n.] stand; also used for Taiwan)

國→国 (KOKU, kuni; country)

關→関 (KAN, seki; involve, concerning)

寫→写 (SHA, utsusu; to write or compose)

廣→広 (KŌ, hiroi; expansive, wide)

圓→円 (EN; marui; round, circular; also used for yen)



 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: Deicide on October 24, 2008, 02:12:46 AM
i think i already told you about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ky%C5%ABjitai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinjitai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Chinese_character

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_character




Kyūjitai: 鐵→Shinjitai: 鉄 (TETSU; iron)

與→与 (On: YO, Kun: ataeru; to bestow, to impart)

學→学 (GAKU, manabu; to learn)

體→体 (TAI, karada; body)

臺→台 (TAI; [n.] stand; also used for Taiwan)

國→国 (KOKU, kuni; country)

關→関 (KAN, seki; involve, concerning)

寫→写 (SHA, utsusu; to write or compose)

廣→広 (KŌ, hiroi; expansive, wide)

圓→円 (EN; marui; round, circular; also used for yen)



 ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's not just that the Chinese have simplified them but also that the same ones have different meaning; the Japanese kanji for 'destroy' means 'bad' in Chinese...
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: DK II on October 24, 2008, 02:22:21 AM
It's not just that the Chinese have simplified them but also that the same ones have different meaning; the Japanese kanji for 'destroy' means 'bad' in Chinese...

There's a lot of kanji that have different meanings in chinese and japanese.

They are two different languages, the japanese imported chinese characters about 1300 years ago, they have gone a different route from that time.

fun fact: By looking at todays japanese readings of a chinese character, you can estimate what the pronounciation must have been in china 1000 years ago.

Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 25, 2008, 12:27:47 AM
  I am still waiting to see any data that indicates that meat enhances more than hinders health. Meat is an outstanding source of complete protein, but there is no evidence whatsoever that it enhances health more than it hinders it.

  Paleolithic Man was hardly that healthy. The average lifespan was 28 years. Compare this to the average lifespan of primarilly vegetarian/fruitarian peoples like the Hunza from Nepal or the Georgians, where centenarians are a dime a dozen, and you will understand.

  Sure, the skeletons of Paleolithic Man shows strong bones and healthy teeth, and the marks of perfurations on their bodies indicates they died more from wear and tear from hunting/warring than from artherosclerosis, diabetes. However, the reason why they had strong bones and teeth was not because they ate lots of meat, which is actually bad for the Calcium deposits of the bones, but because they didn't eat refined sugar, which is much worse than meat as a causal factor in ostheoporosis. The reason why they didn't have heart disease is not because they ate meat, but because they didn't eat refined sugar and flour, which raises blood tryglyceride levels far more than than the fat in meat. Conclusion: Paleolithic Man was relatively healthy because of the foods he didn't eat, not because of the foods he ate. If Paleolithic Men stopped with the meat and ate a diet of raw fruits and vegetables, their health would be as far superior to what they had as their health is compared to someone who gets most of their calories from refined sugar and flour. The data is incomplete which leads us to flase assumptions and conclusions.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: caveman diet
Post by: Deicide on October 25, 2008, 12:32:22 AM
Clearly, cavemen didn't take quality dumps...