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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Royalty on November 17, 2008, 05:23:38 AM
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Im going to add them for power and strength......basically to help increase my poundages on various row and squat movements (which will help indirectly help add mass)
But, in and of itself, does the short range deadlift motion actually produce results in size for you guys?
I find that full range deadlifts absolutely add muscle mass....but my legs are still sore from leg day so I think I need to do rack deadlifts instead.
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I think rack dead lifts (if done right) adds thickness to the back. More importantly though rack dead lifts allow you to use considerably more weight then normal dead lifts from the floor and allows you to just work that section of the dead lift which results in more weight that you can dead lift from the floor which means more mass.
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I love them. I think they are a great movement for size and strength.
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I dont deadlift......
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Deads to the floor.
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I'm going to add them for power and strength......basically to help increase my poundages on various row and squat movements (which will help indirectly help add mass)
But, in and of itself, does the short range deadlift motion actually produce results in size for you guys?
I find that full range deadlifts absolutely add muscle mass....but my legs are still sore from leg day so I think I need to do rack deadlifts instead.
never tried them always did them from the floor....
but will give it a try because my back is just f-up my sciatic nerve is flaring up again...
how far from the floor would you start from anyone?
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never tried them always did them from the floor....
but will give it a try because my back is just f-up my sciatic nerve is flaring up again...
how far from the floor would you start from anyone?
I don't deadlift....
Hope this helps tremendously! ;)
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never tried them always did them from the floor....
but will give it a try because my back is just f-up my sciatic nerve is flaring up again...
how far from the floor would you start from anyone?
You may want to think twice before doing even partials with a sciatic problem.
But to answer your q, I like to set the bar right at the point where I feel the back takes over the workload from the legs.
For me, that’s about center of the kneecap.
But since biomechanics are a bit different for everyone, you’d have to experiment some to find what’s best for you.
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You may want to think twice before doing even partials with a sciatic problem.
But to answer your q, I like to set the bar right at the point where I feel the back takes over the workload from the legs.
For me, that’s about center of the kneecap.
But since biomechanics are a bit different for everyone, you’d have to experiment some to find what’s best for you.
it flares up from time to time it will be ok...thanks
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Just out off curiosity, why in the world (besides an injury) would you not dead lift?
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Just out off curiosity, why in the world (besides an injury) would you not dead lift?
I just never incorporated them into my programs. And I dont like them..... ;D
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Don't you fell like you are missing out on some good gains?
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Don't you fell like you are missing out on some good gains?
Nope...
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as far as back development goes you could get by withou doing deadlifts and create just as good a back as with deadlifts,,, however as far as a balanced physique that is streamlined and ALSO for everyday posture ..deadlifts are key..
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Nope...
Do you know that beside squats, dead lifts stimulate the most muscle fibers? It just boggles my mind that you just don't like them. Do you like to lift?
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Do you know that beside squats, dead lifts stimulate the most muscle fibers? It just boggles my mind that you just don't like them. Do you like to lift?
YEP
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Oh well your loss.
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Do you know that beside squats, dead lifts stimulate the most muscle fibers? It just boggles my mind that you just don't like them. Do you like to lift?
Seriously though, I lift all the time but I have never really done DLs... I have fairly respectable numbers on everything..... Maybe im lazy..
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It don't matter. I guess just do what you do. I just fell that dead lifts are, maybe unpleasant to do but they more then make up for it by the number of fibers they hit. I am also only 5'8 and I have short femurs so dead lifting come natural to me.
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It don't matter. I guess just do what you do. I just fell that dead lifts are, maybe unpleasant to do but they more then make up for it by the number of fibers they hit. I am also only 5'8 and I have short femurs so dead lifting come natural to me.
Honestly I know waaaaay more people who DONT do DLs. Im sure they work well but just not for me. I to am only 5' 9" so I would probably do decent if I applied myself.
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Shit I know a LOT of people that go to the gym all the time and get see little or no results. That doesn't mean I am going to do the same.
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Im only implying that they DO infact make good gains and do not incorporate DL's. Im not saying dont do them.. DO them, I just dont. Have fun..
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You too man. My best advise. Do what works for you!
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You too man. My best advise. Do what works for you!
Fuck it. You talked me into it. Ill do them on my next rotation. If I break my back im never speaking(typing) to you again! ;D
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Good for you. Fuck what fells right. Do what produces results!
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Typically rack deads are done from either just under or just above the kneecap. You should be able to pull the bar to lockout without a significant change in knee bend, maybe 20 degrees or so. Any more and you're putting the legs into it and defeating the purpose.
Although for a change you could just set the safety pins at 3-4" under lockout and throw a shitload of weight on the bar, just to get yourself used to straining with heavier weights. I know when I've done that I can lock out a good extra hundred pounds or more beyond my full-range deadlift.
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Sounds like good advice but do you think there are any differences because of hight. I am 6'4" and I cant seem to ad much poundage in either approach. Kind of stuck at 325
BTW I'm 30 yrs old weighing 215 at 16%BF and have been training serious for about three years