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Getbig Female Info Boards => Open Talk for Girl Discussion => Topic started by: Migs on November 30, 2008, 01:55:00 PM
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ok here is the situation. One of my sisters is morbidely obese. She is 5'9 300 lbs. her fitness level is basically nonexistent. For example, we went grocery shopping (at one point i almost slapped her hand as she was trying to stuff cookies in a cart lieka kid), we get to my house nad she has a bag in each hand, and could barely make it up the two flights of stairs to my kitchen; 14 steps total. I have had converstaions about her needing to lose weight, her going with me to the gym, and i have actually cooked all her meals for a week. I mean all of them, breakfasts, lunches, dinners and snacks. Nothing is working. other than drugging her and sending her off to a camp I am out of ideas. Any suggestions? By the way, i am portly so it's not like she is intimidated going to the gym with me.
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Her life. If she doesn't care nothing you do or say will matter one bit.
People don't usually care about stuff like that until the get sick or suffer some social consequence.
Leave the big boned sister alone and do you.
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i was a trainer for a while and also have helped a few friends and friends of friends who wanted to lose weight and what it all boils down to imho is that if they dont want it theres not much you can do to help. That being said most ppl are so uneducated on even the simplest nutrition and workout basics its retarted maybe helping her understand some of the choices she makes i.e. food and whats wrong with them and the benefits of eating healthy may help. Same thing for working out if you give her a routine and make sure she knows what she is doing and the benefits of each exercise and not just do this do that maybe she will understand and take more interest. If youve given her all the education and help and she still refuses iono what else there is that you can do...good man for trying though.
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If youve given her all the education and help and she still refuses iono what else there is that you can do...good man for trying though.
Agree.
Migs, does she happen to drink a lot of regular pop? Maybe she could substitue diet (not that it's healthy) and she may see a change that could help to inspire her?
Does she eat full-fat mayo or sour cream? Those are 2 things that fat-free is just as good imo but maybe it's because I don't eat a lot of them. I assume she gets enough other fats to lead to a feeling of satiation.
and i have actually cooked all her meals for a week. I mean all of them, breakfasts, lunches, dinners and snacks.
Do you think that the food you prepared was truly all she ate for that week? Was she complaining about it?
...good man for trying though.
x2!
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Yeah i have tried to educate her, even get her involved in shopping and prep, showing her how to make her meals easier etc. After all I have a degree in nutrition so that part was covered. Even though i need to practice it on my self better lol. She doesn't drink regular soda, does drink diet stuff. I think (know) that she cheats all the time. I actually went to her house and emptied out the cabinets and threw crap away, but when i leave she does what she wants. She liked what i made for her but i think she is so used to eating so much more that she snuck food.
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Do you, Migsy-poo.
Her life won't change before the mind does.
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migsy-poo! Only a few people can call me that lol. We didn't go camping together did we? joking. ahem. It's funny, my degree which is useless since i couldn't get into an internship is so biased. Clinically it has it's applications but in real world settings many of the practices and strict adherence to the food pyramid can be laughable
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Yeah i have tried to educate her, even get her involved in shopping and prep, showing her how to make her meals easier etc. After all I have a degree in nutrition so that part was covered. Even though i need to practice it on my self better lol. She doesn't drink regular soda, does drink diet stuff. I think (know) that she cheats all the time. I actually went to her house and emptied out the cabinets and threw crap away, but when i leave she does what she wants. She liked what i made for her but i think she is so used to eating so much more that she snuck food.
I think you have tried way beyond what most people would do, she knows you will help her, so now it is up to her.
Maybe she needs to find snacks that are better choices? Too much of anything will make you fat, but if she could lose some weight just by substituting better choices then maybe that will be the push she needs? But she has to want it since she is the one that will have to do it.
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i think i might charter a plane and drop her off on an island. That way she has to forage for food and will have no way to cheat.
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i think i might charter a plane and drop her off on an island. That way she has to forage for food and will have no way to cheat.
That's the holiday spirit! ;D
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it's survival of the fattest.
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Just get her Lane Bryant gift cards for Christmas.
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or a snicker at the end of a treadmill
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Maybe she needs to find snacks that are better choices?
Can you find her some cheerios?
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Can you find her some cheerios?
my underwear is cheerio free at the moment!
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my underwear is cheerio free at the moment!
fixed ;D
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Try this :) Cleans you out real good.
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fixed ;D
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Try this :) Cleans you out real good.
I like the Nitrean, never have had a problem with it. :)
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Keto for her...
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ok here is the situation. One of my sisters is morbidely obese. She is 5'9 300 lbs. her fitness level is basically nonexistent. For example, we went grocery shopping (at one point i almost slapped her hand as she was trying to stuff cookies in a cart lieka kid), we get to my house nad she has a bag in each hand, and could barely make it up the two flights of stairs to my kitchen; 14 steps total. I have had converstaions about her needing to lose weight, her going with me to the gym, and i have actually cooked all her meals for a week. I mean all of them, breakfasts, lunches, dinners and snacks. Nothing is working. other than drugging her and sending her off to a camp I am out of ideas. Any suggestions? By the way, i am portly so it's not like she is intimidated going to the gym with me.
there's generally underlying mental issues associated with obesity,so while you can suggest exercising and diet change, it'll probably be all for not until you find the root of why she's addicted to food that's basically killing her...
self esteem and depression are some of the major offenders a lot of the time
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I like the Nitrean, never have had a problem with it. :)
their results works pretty good as well never had a problem with it either but ive taken a lot of supplements in the past that have that effect on me danielson so i guess its just finding one you can live with.
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Is she married? Does she have children? Does she care that she's killing herself and will be leaving behind loved ones? What does her doctor say?
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Is she married? Does she have children? Does she care that she's killing herself and will be leaving behind loved ones? What does her doctor say?
She is single, no kids. We've had a heart to heart, her doctor (which is mine as well) pretty much laid it out for her. I guess until she has a heart attack or pancreatitis she won't change.
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She is single, no kids. We've had a heart to heart, her doctor (which is mine as well) pretty much laid it out for her. I guess until she has a heart attack or pancreatitis she won't change.
Sad that she needs to go through something painful to understand what she's doing to herself. I hope she is aware that she may not survive a heart attack to get a second chance at changing herself.
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Has she ever acknowledged the fact that she needs to lose weight? Is she disciplined in other areas of her life? Has she always been overweight?
She is likely very fearful. Doesn't know how or where to begin. Fears failing, fears change, fears the unknown.
There are a lot of hospitals out there now offering various classes - not over eaters anonymous, but similar type group classes. Weight Watchers is good for someone who's ready to change and needs a start. They teach good, basic skills for the severely overweight.
The first step is acknowledgement. She has got to WANT to change. After that, it's just a matter of finding the right fit or combination of resources. You and/or the gym are not the current answers.
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Has she ever acknowledged the fact that she needs to lose weight? Is she disciplined in other areas of her life? Has she always been overweight?
She is likely very fearful. Doesn't know how or where to begin. Fears failing, fears change, fears the unknown.
There are a lot of hospitals out there now offering various classes - not over eaters anonymous, but similar type group classes. Weight Watchers is good for someone who's ready to change and needs a start. They teach good, basic skills for the severely overweight.
The first step is acknowledgement. She has got to WANT to change. After that, it's just a matter of finding the right fit or combination of resources. You and/or the gym are not the current answers.
She has acknowledged that she needs to lose weight. As far as being disciplined in other areas, I would say no. I never remember her being thin. She has tried many diets and doctor supervised regimes but she gets on a roll, then derails very easily.
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She has acknowledged that she needs to lose weight. As far as being disciplined in other areas, I would say no. I never remember her being thin. She has tried many diets and doctor supervised regimes but she gets on a roll, then derails very easily.
I hate to suggest this but it seems like it might be the only solution....gastric bypass (the band)?
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I hate to suggest this but it seems like it might be the only solution....gastric bypass (the band)?
apparently she isn't healthy enough to do it. She has diabetes that is not in control, high blood pressure, and is anemic.
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apparently she isn't healthy enough to do it. She has diabetes that is not in control, high blood pressure, and is anemic.
Geesh! If that isn't enough to scare her into becoming a more healthy person...I don't know what you could do. We only have one life. There is no "do over". She cannot wait until it's too late. :-[
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yeah it's pretty bad.
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She is single, no kids. We've had a heart to heart, her doctor (which is mine as well) pretty much laid it out for her. I guess until she has a heart attack or pancreatitis she won't change.
She has acknowledged that she needs to lose weight. As far as being disciplined in other areas, I would say no. I never remember her being thin. She has tried many diets and doctor supervised regimes but she gets on a roll, then derails very easily.
apparently she isn't healthy enough to do it. She has diabetes that is not in control, high blood pressure, and is anemic.
Are you SURE her Dr. REALLY laid it out for her? Doctors are too often passive on the lifestyle changes and are quick to write a script. Does she REALLY have a clue what can happen with those conditions? I mean REALLY? Limb loss (toes, feet, legs), blindness, stroke, heart disease/attack. It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of when. What kind of anemia? Surely that makes her tired. Also, she's undoubtedly depressed, so that needs to get under control and then maybe she'll see more clearly.
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yeah he laid it out. He is my doctor as well. He won't pull any punches. He always says the bottom line.
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yeah he laid it out. He is my doctor as well. He won't pull any punches. He always says the bottom line.
Migs, do you have any theories as to why she overeats to the extent that she does?
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lonliness, lack of self control, sadness, feeling of low self worth, abandonement. I almost had her go to the gym with me the other day though.
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lonliness, lack of self control, sadness, feeling of low self worth, abandonement. I almost had her go to the gym with me the other day though.
Geo's post seems on point.
Have you ever suggested counseling to get to the bottom of it? Perhaps you could convince her to go at least 4 times. Maybe get her the sessions for Christmas?
Maybe if she would go then she could try some of Princess L's suggestions?
There are a lot of hospitals out there now offering various classes - not over eaters anonymous, but similar type group classes. Weight Watchers is good for someone who's ready to change and needs a start. They teach good, basic skills for the severely overweight.
The first step is acknowledgement. She has got to WANT to change. After that, it's just a matter of finding the right fit or combination of resources. You and/or the gym are not the current answers.
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she supposeldy was going to go to a counselor, but that, like the dodo, didn't last
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she supposeldy was going to go to a counselor, but that, like the dodo, didn't last
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How about asking her to go for a walk a few times a week?
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How about getting mean and angry and telling her she is being very selfish. And that you're pissed that she doesn't about her health and what it's doing to her and the family. >:(
Some people really don't realize that this is it...we only have one life to f**k up and if we do...we don't get re-takes or do-overs. She HAS the power right now to change things and make herself healthier which will allow her more time here on earth to give and receive love from her family and friends. I don't care how "godly" you are or how much you worship...if you abuse the body you are given...the time you have here is limited.
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i think im going to have my friend build a pine box and drop it off to her house.