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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: mass 04 on January 04, 2009, 07:28:53 AM
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before you started working out? For me i'd say
-there are other body parts besides arms and chest
-"eating big" is a fallacy and will most likely just put on fat
-always take time to warm up. It's better to take 10 minutes and do it, then hurting yourself and be out for three months.
-doing high reps won't get you "cut".
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i wish i would have known that no top ifbb pro is natural
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i wish i would have known that no top ifbb pro is natural
This. I used to think that it was possible to get to 240 at 5% all natural.
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This. I used to think that it was possible to get to 240 at 5% all natural.
yeah... i just figured it took a decade or so of hard training... but i believed i could look like ronnie coleman if i just trained hard and ate alot of protein.
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yeah... i just figured it took a decade or so of hard training... but i believed i could look like ronnie coleman if i just trained hard and ate alot of protein.
Same. I also wish I knew how to lift properly before I started working out. None of that 1/4 rep bullshit most teenagers do.
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Here's a few
(of many) that have made a difference FOR ME:
1. Focus on compound lifts and getting strong at them. The goal being squat 400, deadlift 500, bench 300 (i personally don't bench, but it is still a good goal)
2. Your routine should center around the squat
3. Eat 1-1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight
4. Workouts should last less than 45min. Max one hour.
5. Forget about isolation exercises until your are advanced
6. I personally think workouts should be no more than 3 days per week.
7. One week off every 8-10 weeks.
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Outstanding advice from Jorgen and also Mass04. Trouble being, most young guy's do not want to listen to solid training logic. Too swept away by the glossy BS muscle magazines out there. And the over priced supplements, most worth less than garage. Good Luck.
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yeah... i just figured it took a decade or so of hard training... but i believed i could look like ronnie coleman if i just trained hard and ate alot of protein.
Yep same here. Even the smaller guys though you see in a general fitness mag I thought was attainable. No way. Only one way to get there. The other crushing blow is you lose that shit fast when you come off. Anyone who says different is full of shit.
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QUALITY over QUANTITY.... :-\
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Alot of things, but ask me the same question next year and I'll likely tell you the same answer. Even now, I find new things all the time that make a big difference.
Outstanding advice from Jorgen and also Mass04. Trouble being, most young guy's do not want to listen to solid training logic. Too swept away by the glossy BS muscle magazines out there. And the over priced supplements, most worth less than garage. Good Luck.
Agreed. Something I have learnt is to look at training and nutrition from a scientific point of view. Bodybuilding really is a science in many respects, especially when it pertains to nutrition.
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Are you guys serious? you thought you could look like ronnie? ::)
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Are you guys serious? you thought you could look like ronnie? ::)
of course ! i still do, but now i just now what it takes.
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Are you guys serious? you thought you could look like ronnie? ::)
Fuck no not that extreme. More like a Steve Reeves type.
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Don't try to lift your ego.
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i wish i would have known that no top ifbb pro is natural
Same here - it took me about four years of training before I had a "rough idea" that they "might" be on "something". :-\
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I personally wish someone would've taught me how to squat properly in my teens so I wouldn't be sitting here with two herniated discs. :'(
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of course ! i still do, but now i just now what it takes.
Yep... being born black and having different parents... and becoming a big azz juicy copper in Texassss.
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• Like most I wish I would have known pros are not natural
• I wish I would have know about eating right, I used to add protein powder to McDonald's milk shakes from time to time when I first started lifting so I could bulk up faster
• I wish I would have known how easy it is to cook good healthy food at home rather than eating out 4 times a day struggling to find something that was body builder friendly and cheap
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I guess I would say that I wish I had known that is important to train with intensity and not just go through the motions.
Also I would have like to know that you don't need to get fat and "bulk up" real big to put on muscle.
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Jeez, my parents told me before I even started working out that pro bodybuilders use steroids.
I wish I knew how to eat properly, I started off undereating and with too much cardio that I couldn't avoid, then stopped playing sports, and ended up overeating and with no cardio.
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I wish i had realised that an increase in bodyweight sometimes does not = a large increase in muscle size.
Basically i got fat.
I wish i had known that my body does not respond well to carbs.
I was bulking on the worst type of diet for my body. super high carb, moderate fat, low protein :(
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QUALITY over QUANTITY.... :-\
This was the biggest for me. My dad always used to tell me "It's not how much you lift it's how you lift it."
It's sometimes hard to do it, but you HAVE TO check your ego at the gym door.
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This was the biggest for me. My dad always used to tell me "It's not how much you lift it's how you lift it."
It's sometimes hard to do it, but you HAVE TO check your ego at the gym door.
bingo..... nice controlled full reps
i wish i never got started on flat benches.. didnt suit my bodytype at all, shoulders will never be the same
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yeah... i just figured it took a decade or so of hard training... but i believed i could look like ronnie coleman if i just trained hard and ate alot of protein.
:( :( :( SAME HERE
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That squats to JUST parallel were bad for the knees.
Doing JUST the basics will build a better foundation.
Most supplements are a waste of money.
Dbells are better for chest development.
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I wish I knew how my body would respond to different things, exercises, rep ranges, diets, supplements, etc.
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I wish I knew that bodybuilding as a sport was extremely gay and deserving of little to no respect.
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I wish I knew how my body would respond to different things, exercises, rep ranges, diets, supplements, etc.
now thats a good one.
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before you started working out? For me i'd say
-doing high reps won't get you "cut".
Amen To that! And I still hear it quoted in the gym all the time.
I wish I knew I had to train forearms,ha. Now they're so far behind I don't even know if it's worth the extra headache?
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do people realy train forarms?............ other than hammer curls is there realy anypoint???
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That squats are gay and overrated
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That squats are gay and overrated
thats good one ..i wasted alot of time trying to get myself to get soemthin out of squats... all the pros taling in their columns about "squats are amust"...yeah bullshit... they just trying to sound hard core... but what they fail to realise is that hack squats, machine power squats, front squats, leg press, leg extension, lunges... al of these can be JUST AS HARD as regular squats...and they are all better for quads...
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thats good one ..i wasted alot of time trying to get myself to get soemthin out of squats... all the pros taling in their columns about "squats are amust"...yeah bullshit... they just trying to sound hard core... but what they fail to realise is that hack squats, machine power squats, front squats, leg press, leg extension, lunges... al of these can be JUST AS HARD as regular squats...and they are all better for quads...
Some guys are just lucky and there legs grow like weeds from heavy squats, i have a sneaking suspicion that they would grow just as well on presses, extensions etc. but they never had to get creative because of favorable leg genetics and hip structure.
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Some guys are just lucky and there legs grow like weeds from heavy squats, i have a sneaking suspicion that they would grow just as well on presses, extensions etc. but they never had to get creative because of favorable leg genetics and hip structure.
i learned how to do propper squat form about two weeks ago.... and its all glutes... squats are an ass builder...
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i learned how to do propper squat form about two weeks ago.... and its all glutes... squats are an ass builder...
Not really. You're just feeling it there mostly because your glutes don't get worked a lot from the other stuff you're doing. When going below parallel in the squat your hams and glutes come into assist the quads so your glutes are playing catch up in the assisted part of the movement. I don't really feel it in my glutes too much anymore, they still get a little sore but not anything like they used to. You're also going to see a lot of growth there if you've just started doing them, your glutes will start popping out.
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Not really. You're just feeling it there mostly because your glutes don't get worked a lot from the other stuff you're doing. When going below parallel in the squat your hams and glutes come into assist the quads so your glutes are playing catch up in the assisted part of the movement. I don't really feel it in my glutes too much anymore, they still get a little sore but not anything like they used to. You're also going to see a lot of growth there if you've just started doing them, your glutes will start popping out.
well i actually work out my glutes. my gym has a glute machine that i like and i use it pretty much everyd leg day. i also do the seated leg machines that workout inner and outer thigh... ;D .. my philosophy is to leave no muscle untrained
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well i actually work out my glutes. my gym has a glute machine that i like and i use it pretty much everyd leg day. i also do the seated leg machines that workout inner and outer thigh... ;D .. my philosophy is to leave no muscle untrained
Yea, I'm just saying the glute machine isn't going to hit the glutes as hard as a back squat will. Plus, with just starting squats, since it's essentially a new exercise to you, you're going to get DOMS in the glutes pretty bad from it. Should get better over time.
As far as the original comment about squats goes, can you build big legs without the squat? Sure. But I feel that the squat offers a lot more than just building the legs. It hits the spinal erectors hard, glutes and hams also get worked very well. It's a move that you can't really beat for the best bang for you buck. Yea I can do a bunch of different exercises to hit those other muscles, but with the squat there's not really any need for me to.
Years ago I hated the squat. I was self taught and had horrible form. After throwing it in the "useless" exercise category I had a guy who had been powerlifting for years show me how to squat properly. After 3 months of squatting correctly it's something I'll always have in my rotation for legs. I love it now and am very comfortable with it, one of my favorite moves.
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-One of the classics is that squats or deads will build overall muscle size. I did squats for years, great results but very little to do with upper body development IMO.
-Rull ROM is essential - did both full and box squats, much preferred box squats.
-Do only compounds at first...BS.
-Free weights are always better...that depends on the cable and machine alternatives available.
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do people realy train forarms?............ other than hammer curls is there realy anypoint???
I do think a person could be an Olympian with weak forearms so the importance may not be great. But I wouldn't mind having Lee Priest genetics for arms that's for sure.