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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Religious Debates & Threads => Topic started by: EwaBeachBoy on February 06, 2009, 12:04:51 AM
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Here is a good answer which may strengthen your faith....
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Don't you have original ideas? Stop posting youtube videos to do your talking for you.
I didn't watch the video BTW. I've already heard all of that Baloney.
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IUf Darwin came back from the dead to warn us from hell, no one would blieve him
As Jesus said in a parable....
"If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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There is an only ever could be one and only consciousness.
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IUf Darwin came back from the dead to warn us from hell, no one would blieve him
As Jesus said in a parable....
"If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
That's not the same topic as who created God.
Give me a brief summary, in your own words, of what you think on who or what created God, if anything did. Why he needs no creator and the universe does.
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If God needed a creator, he wouldnt be God.
God needing a creator is a paradox just like a led zepelin, ect
I believe there is a God and his name is Jesus.
God neither has a beginning or an ending. He always was and is...
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If God needed a creator, he wouldnt be God.
That's fine, for semantics. But it doesn't prove that this hypothetical being does not need a creator logically.
God neither has a beginning or an ending. He always was and is...
1. Why can't this be true for reality as well?
2. If God had no start, why did he choose to make the universe at the time he did? Why not earlier, Why not later? What was he doing before he made it? Did he even exist? In what sense did he exist and how could he be defined as God if he was doing nothing. In what sense can he even be said to exist before space/time/universe?
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That's fine, for semantics. But it doesn't prove that this hypothetical being does not need a creator logically.
1. Why can't this be true for reality as well?
2. If God had no start, why did he choose to make the universe at the time he did? Why not earlier, Why not later? What was he doing before he made it? Did he even exist? In what sense did he exist and how could he be defined as God if he was doing nothing. In what sense can he even be said to exist before space/time/universe?
These are very good questions that I pondered about a lot. I dont have the answer to these questions but what i do have is faith that there is something bigger than me and this world.
God could have created the world anytime he wishes, He is God.
If God created matter/energy and designed the systems that have propelled matter into its present arrangement, who or what accomplished that for God? This question bothered the heck out of me.
The universe has to have a beginning because the universe is comprised of matter. Matter cannot be eternal in nature.
If God is a being that is unlimited in time, and if He has access to every piece of time as if it were now, the question of who created God is an invalid question.
The problem is like asking a person to draw a four-sided triangle. Asking a question of who created God is self-contradictory. Because God has no creator
When we ask, “Who or what created God?” we are making the assumption that God was created. If God exists outside of time and space, and if He is the Creator of time and space, He obviously was not created.
Look around you and tell me that everything is not based on an intelligent design?
Life is not a mistake. It didnt happen by chance....
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did any of u guys ever read god is an ancient astraunat?
someone was telling me about this book today
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did any of u guys ever read god is an ancient astraunat?
someone was telling me about this book today
Extraterrestrials? The word the concept of "god" was derived from in the bible actually meant "Gods (plural)," not God (singular). Therefore, the material was actually describing more than one "god." It would make a lot of sense if these "gods" were actually aliens.
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Who created God?
Humans....?
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These are very good questions that I pondered about a lot. I dont have the answer to these questions but what i do have is faith that there is something bigger than me and this world.
WHy?
God could have created the world anytime he wishes, He is God.
But why NOW?
If God created matter/energy and designed the systems that have propelled matter into its present arrangement, who or what accomplished that for God? This question bothered the heck out of me.
I don't even understand the question.
The universe has to have a beginning because the universe is comprised of matter. Matter cannot be eternal in nature.
No. Matter does not need to have a beginning. We just know that this universe had some sort of start because we know there was a big bang.
If God is a being that is unlimited in time, and if He has access to every piece of time as if it were now, the question of who created God is an invalid question.
The problem is like asking a person to draw a four-sided triangle. Asking a question of who created God is self-contradictory. Because God has no
Even if God has "access" to every piece of time, how does this make inquiring about Gods creator invalid? Why?
When we ask, “Who or what created God?” we are making the assumption that God was created. If God exists outside of time and space, and if He is the Creator of time and space, He obviously was not created.
Look around you and tell me that everything is not based on an intelligent design?
Life is not a mistake. It didnt happen by chance....
How can God exist "outside of time and space" when he did something inside of space such as make the universe. And, if the bible is true, then God reaches into our time and space and does things to and for humanity. How can a being existing OUTSIDE of time interact with humans existing inside of time? It's a paradox which wouldn't be possible.
Things APPEAR intelligently designed because our human brains are formed that way. It's an illusion though.
Example:
The Giants causeway
(http://www.reformationtours.com/site/490868/uploaded/giantscauseway.jpg)
Upon first look, most people would say it was designed by humans. This is an illusion, just like all of nature. This was formed naturally by lava quickly cooling after hitting water. It only appears intelligently designed.
Life isn't a "mistake" because there is no one to make the mistake.
Life isn't "chance" because natural selection is in control.
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Who created God?
Humans....?
very well put...
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Ron.
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very well put...
Well we definitely defined it. I personally believe there is something but I'd be foolish to define that which I'm supposed to have faith in as some old man in the sky just waiting to spank me in eternity for being that which he made... HUMAN!
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Who created God?
Humans....?
yep
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Here is a good answer which may strengthen your faith....
(http://www.atheist-community.org/images/cartoon/IEUR221926XJAN1923174.jpg)
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Time initself started at the bigbang...
there is no such thing is always going back...(if u believe in the big bang)
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Time initself started at the bigbang...
there is no such thing is always going back...(if u believe in the big bang)
time travel is actually possible. there is no rule in physics that outlaws time travel. it happens everyday, although very minute.
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god to the 2nd power
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time travel is actually possible. there is no rule in physics that outlaws time travel. it happens everyday, although very minute.
You are right and wrong. Forward travel through time isn't outlawed. Backwards time travel introduces breaks at least one rule and introduces hard to reconcile issues with causality.
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You are right and wrong. Forward travel through time isn't outlawed. Backwards time travel introduces breaks at least one rule and introduces hard to reconcile issues with causality.
I'm not necessarily talking about humans or complex matter traveling through time. That might happen in the distant future but backward time travel happens everyday.
What about the GPS satellites that need their clocks slowed down so they would correlate to the clocks on earth? Time is relative, so in that sense, it can go forward or backward.
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time travel is actually possible. there is no rule in physics that outlaws time travel. it happens everyday, although very minute.
well yeah i agree....i never said it wasn't...
just find yourself a worm hole and go thru it before it collapses...
orrrr
travel suffeciently close to the speed to light
orrrr
find to gravity waves moving towards eachother and loop de loop em
orrrr
fall into a black hole without an event horizon and pop back out...(which in itself is actually impossible so i digress)
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You are right and wrong. Forward travel through time isn't outlawed. Backwards time travel introduces breaks at least one rule and introduces hard to reconcile issues with causality.
actually backward time travel is possible and you can get around the grandfather paradox...according to (string) brane theory if you travel back in time and kill your grandfather at that split instant you actually create another universe...
now you have 2 universes..one without u and your grandfather and one with...
all possibilities are possible
http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/grandfather_paradox.html
the end
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LMAO, bb'ing forum discussing time travel......
Lets just stick to picking up heavy stuff!!!!!
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LMAO, bb'ing forum discussing time travel......
Lets just stick to picking up heavy stuff!!!!!
we aren't pro bbers yanno...and for some of us bbing isn't the end all and be all of our existance!
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we aren't pro bbers yanno...and for some of us bbing isn't the end all and be all of our existance!
:'(
http://www.physicsforums.com/
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"how can i add more sweep to my quads?"
"how do i get a split on my biceps like ronnie coleman?"
see how stupid those sound?
i'd rather talk about paint drying than stupid trivial bodybuilding bullshit.
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well yeah i agree....i never said it wasn't...
just find yourself a worm hole and go thru it before it collapses...
orrrr
travel suffeciently close to the speed to light
orrrr
find to gravity waves moving towards eachother and loop de loop em
orrrr
fall into a black hole without an event horizon and pop back out...(which in itself is actually impossible so i digress)
i thought every black hole has an event horizon? in any regards if there is something "impossible" it is returning from falling through a black hole.
i'm still reading dr. kaku's 'physics of the impossible' and one thing stuck to me... it's not that no one can travel through time, it's if you could come back to brag about it.
you familiar with the book?
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So guys I was wondering how can i add more sweep to my quads and split my biceps like ronnie coleman?
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I'm not necessarily talking about humans or complex matter traveling through time. That might happen in the distant future but backward time travel happens everyday.
What about the GPS satellites that need their clocks slowed down so they would correlate to the clocks on earth? Time is relative, so in that sense, it can go forward or backward.
You're mistaken. Time does not travel backward for any observer. Time travels slower, not backwards, for GPS satellites because of relativistic effects of their speed.
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You're mistaken. Time does not travel backward for any observer. Time travels slower, not backwards, for GPS satellites because of relativistic effects of their speed.
Well, i guess my wording isn't correct. If the satellite happened to be an astronaut, once he lands back on earth, he has officially traveled in time. His 'time' will be ahead of Earth's, so in essence he has traveled back in time.
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IUf Darwin came back from the dead to warn us from hell, no one would blieve him
This statement has it a lot:
humor, sadness, irony, power and above all, truth!
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i created God...
prove me wrong :-*
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This statement has it a lot:
humor, sadness, irony, power and above all, truth!
Ah lub Jebus!
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Ron.
lmao
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Ah lub Jebus!
When you make statements such as this, what is your intent? Do you think we're silly people because we love Jesus? Is it a feeble attempt at humor? Whatever your reasons, why not just give it a rest?
I'll be the first to admit that a bodybuilding site is not the best choice for a Spiritual discussion, and/or enlightenment. However, it just seems childish to to make comments that adds no value to the discussion.
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All praise be to Allah
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This statement has it a lot:
humor, sadness, irony, power and above all, truth!
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When you make statements such as this, what is your intent? Do you think we're silly people because we love Jesus? Is it a feeble attempt at humor? Whatever your reasons, why not just give it a rest?
I'll be the first to admit that a bodybuilding site is not the best choice for a Spiritual discussion, and/or enlightenment. However, it just seems childish to to make comments that adds no value to the discussion.
Well considering the fact that I do not believe a 'Jesus' ever existed it was an ironic statement. People love all sorts of imaginary things though.
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:)