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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: gmflex on February 07, 2009, 10:32:01 AM
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Was orginally posted at another MMA Forum:
Call it MMA Fedor Plagerism ;D
Here it is:
10 Fedor Facts:
1. He has held 5 MMA championships, and never lost them.
2. Fedor holds the best win streak in all mma, 24
3. Fedor has never been knocked down by any type of strike.
4. Most recent win over Tim Sylvia a top 5 HW lasted 36 seconds.
5. Fedor has a finishing percentage of 75%
6. No fighter has ever stopped Fedor in a fight. But 1 doctor has.
7. Has defeated 4 different HW champions or X champions.
8. Fedor has 70 total take downs in mma, 41 of which upper body take downs.
9. Fedor has 12 wins in under 2 minutes
10. And 5 wins under 1 minute.
P4p, is a term people like to come up with that gives the smaller guy an advantage against a large opponent. When really the smaller guy only has a punchers chance in a real fight.
1. Your saying that if the larger fighter was smaller or these fighters were the same size, that the skills of the smaller guy would out match the bigger guy...
This is a jack ass hypothetical situation.
For starters, if the bigger guy was not a "big guy" he would not have trained like a big guy. Thus you do not see many technical large men. There agility alone does not enable them to do things that the smaller fighters can do. There cardio is also an issue as well as speed. All the great things we get out of the smaller fighters.
So you take away, strength, power, weight, height and reach. Yet the smaller guy stays the same.. Yeah of course the smaller guy wins that battle every fucking time.
All bullshit aside if you want to be the baddest man on the planet, you have to beat Fedor. You can come up with this hypothetical fight situation to make yourself feel better about being a small guy all you want to. P4p Fedor will take you on if you have the balls to face him. He is the man, and if you can fight as a HW, in which A.Silva can since he cuts a mass amount of weight, we can find out.
After all the HW belt is the most prestigious belt. And in a real mma fight, not a make believe hypothetical situation, Fedor will win. Its that simple. Argue all you want, and come up with all the bullshit mma math you can ponder... Fedor will fight and defeat any mma fighter.. He is #1, and the best fighter in the world.
My problem is
- Everyone is judging P4p on the opinion of who faced the "tougher" competition. In which the "tougher" competition is based on the ranking of that fighter at that specified weight.
- So its all a numbers game. X beat Y amount of top 10 fighters in his weight class. But Z beat this many top fighters in his weight class...
- Nobody takes in consideration that a heavier fighter would fight differently if he didn't weigh as much. Just like nobody says the smaller guy would do well heavier. So every time its if the larger guy was smaller.
- The fact that most "p4p" fighters, can fight in heavier or harder divisions, and will weigh the same or give up a little weight. But they can for sure weigh in the same on day of weigh in.
- Yet at the moment, in real time mma. We have small HW's. IMO the ONLY P4p fighters. Why? Because they can fight at LHW, yet they fight at HW the toughest division in the game. And they give up some times up to 100lbs.
- That the smaller guys look flashier because there smaller, they assume that those fighters would look the same vs a HW.
- The one that really makes no sense are the words "tougher competition". There not tougher.. There higher ranked at an easier weight class. That is not "tougher competition", that is higher ranked WW's beaten. Or Anderson beat higher ranked MW's. He DID NOT face tougher competition.
IMO a "p4p" fighter, would not mind giving up 10-20lbs, your the top p4p fighter. You should want to fight at your best physical condition. Not cut weight to fight in a smaller division, then... here is the big one... Put on as much weight as possible and fight heavier then the specified weight requirement.
If your a LHW on the day of the fight.. you should have weighed in as a LHW. And you should fight in the LHW division. For god sakes, you can make the weight, have faith in your own skills to fight and weigh in at your top physical condition.
There is ONLY one fighter that has proven his worth in about 30 fights, that has only been stopped by one doctor.
There is only ONE fighter that has beaten:
4 different X UFC champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
4 kick boxing champions
Schilt
Hunt
Goodridge
HMC
6 different MMA champions
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Goodridge
Mirko
2 silver olympic medalist
Lindland
Ogawa
1 ADCC open weight champion
Arona
There is only 1 fighter that has gone 30+ fights that has
- Never lost a decision.
- Never been sub'd
- Never been knocked out
Only one fighter that has ever won 5 different mma championships.
- Wamma HW belt
- Pride HW belt
- Pride Grand Prix tournament
- Rings king of kings tournament
- Rings world class tournament
All while finishing 75% of his opponents.
A current 24 fight win streak
With 21 victories in the first round
4 victories in the first minute
12 victories in the first 2 minutes
No other fighter in all MMA has any where near the list of accomplishments.
Mind you Fedor did this while being injured 2 times due to injuries he sustained to his hand during a fight. And while top fighters backed out of fights. One of which back out on multiple occasions.
On punching
"The goal is to whip your arm out and snap your fist into your target as though it were a ball on the end of a chain. If you have tension in your arm, you'll burn unnecessary energy, your movement will be slow, and your punch will push instead of whip into your target, causing considerably less damage."
Fedor
This is the so called "wild" punch he throws. A bit more calculated then some of you expected. Not all good mma boxing, looks like pro boxers. It's mma, and the most effective form of boxing is the one that works. Not the one that looks pretty.
Lead power hook
"When throwing the lead power hook, I'll first rotate my hips and shoulders in the opposite direction of the punch. In addition to spring-loading my hips. Which allows me to throw a more powerful punch, it will often deceive my opponent. If he is watching my body mechanics in an attempt to anticipate my next attack, which is something all good fighters do, my rotation will look as though I'm about to throw a right cross. As he prepares to defend against the right cross, I step my lead foot toward him, uncoil my spring-loaded hips, and throw a powerful left hook and catch him off guard.
I've also found it to be very effective counter for when my opponent throws a right cross (or lead right jab if he's in a south paw stance). As his punch nears my face, I'll slip it by rotating my hips and shoulders and moving my head to the outside of his arm. Before he has a chance to pull his extended arm back into his stance, I'll uncoil my hips, lunge forward, and land a powerful hook to the side of his jaw. "
Fedor
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Fedor is a really impressive heavy weight champion!
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Especially when you add Arlovski as another victory under his belt-->
So thats five former UFC Heavyweight champs=
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Arlovski
Honestly, Dana has to want this guy to come to the UFC and should do whatever it takes to get him. Heavyweight is always the biggest draw in combat sports when the division is up to par. Even though Fedor would dismantle Brock ( at least if they fought now) and I think he would beat ( though I dont think he would dominate) Mir- Those are really the only Heavyweight fights I know I want to see period. After Mir fights Brock, the heavyweight division in all of MMA is not even worth watching anymore unless Fedor comes to the UFC.
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Especially when you add Arlovski as another victory under his belt-->
So thats five former UFC Heavyweight champs=
Coleman
Randleman
Sylvia
Nog
Arlovski
Honestly, Dana has to want this guy to come to the UFC and should do whatever it takes to get him. Heavyweight is always the biggest draw in combat sports when the division is up to par. Even though Fedor would dismantle Brock ( at least if they fought now) and I think he would beat ( though I dont think he would dominate) Mir- Those are really the only Heavyweight fights I know I want to see period. After Mir fights Brock, the heavyweight division in all of MMA is not even worth watching anymore unless Fedor comes to the UFC.
LOL, Dana has a different Fedor excuse every week, last time it was Fedor doesn't fight any top name competition, now after knocking out Sylvia and Arlovski... what's Dana gonna say ???
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He actually got asked already..
All he could say was i get it!!!
And went into this long speech that he has been trying for the last 3 years to bring him in...
He was back pedaling thru the interview ;D
I'll see if i find the interview so i can posted it ;)