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I know in the NFL they test a players bench press strength by seeing how many times they bench 225lbs. Just curious if anyone knows any rep amounts for players, i got it up 32 times and was wondering if this was any good.
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TOP BENCH-PRESS RESULTS -- OFFENSIVE LINE AND TIGHT ENDS
Player School Position Reps
LONG, JAKE MICHIGAN OT 37
ZUTTAH, JEREMY RUTGERS OT 35
BARTON, KIRK OHIO ST OT 34
GIBSON, MICHAEL CAL-BERKELEY OT 31
NICKS, CARL NEBRASKA OT 31
KEITH, BRANDON NORTHERN IOWA OT 31
GRECO, JOHN TOLEDO OT 30
MCGLYNN, MICHAEL PITTSBURGH OT 30
MURPHY, SHAWN UTAH ST OG 29
MCDUFFIE, CHRISTOPHER CLEMSON OG 29
POLLAK, MIKE ARIZONA ST OC 29
STEVENS, CRAIG CAL-BERKELEY TE 27
KELLER, DUSTIN PURDUE TE 26
COTTAM, BRAD TENNESSEE TE 24
DAVIS, FREDERICK SOUTHERN CAL TE 24
FINE, DEREK KANSAS TE 24
KAPANUI, KOLOMONA WEST TEXAS A&M TE 23
BARNIDGE, GARY LOUISVILLE TE 22
DAVIS, KELLEN MICHIGAN ST TE 22
BISHOP, ADAM NEVADA-RENO TE 21
http://nflblogs.profootballweekly.com/NFLdraft/2008/02/bench_press_results.html
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the best recorded at the combine was 44 reps.
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wow, thanks for the info, didnt think I was that close to them in reps...by the way, I have been training for 25 years so you dont think im just throwing #'s out there...6'2", 247lbs
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wow, thanks for the info, didnt think I was that close to them in reps...by the way, I have been training for 25 years so you dont think im just throwing #'s out there...6'2", 247lbs
yea most I've got was 24 or 25.my gym has a board on the wall with the names of members that get it more than 20reps.most at my gym is 37.I remember when I was excited I got 225 for 3 reps ha ha.I can't remember I think warren sapp held the NFL record for a while.
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I never tried the 225 thing till 2 buddies of mine brought it up couple days ago, so i thought id try it...did 2 sets of 210 for 12-15 reps for warm up then went right to 225lbs.
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Dyam, that's good. I was at my best when I was 21 (28 now) and benched around 380 for 10 reps. Think we tried 220 once for a fun and I pushed around 22 reps before utterly failing. >:(
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Dyam, that's good. I was at my best when I was 21 (28 now) and benched around 380 for 10 reps. Think we tried 220 once for a fun and I pushed around 22 reps before utterly failing. >:(
thats weird because Iv'e got 225 24-25 reps.but I've never got 380 more than 2 reps.
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380 for 10 reps, wow, now i gotta try that...not sure im gonna get 10 reps though, thats alot of weight...will let you know
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??? 380 is not really that much is it? ??? I've seen tons of guys pushing 450 and beyond.
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??? 380 is not really that much is it? ??? I've seen tons of guys pushing 450 and beyond.
::)
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450lbs....lots of guys?, where do you workout...ronnie colemans house?
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??? 380 is not really that much is it? ??? I've seen tons of guys pushing 450 and beyond.
here we go
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this thread went from zero to stupid pretty quik !
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??? 380 is not really that much is it? ??? I've seen tons of guys pushing 450 and beyond.
LMFAO. ;D
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Aha I see :). Vocal but weak ;D
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I would think the average bench, for even experience BB'ers, would be around 300. Give or take 20lbs. And probably 4 to 5 reps at the most. 300 is a lot of weigh for most BB'ers, if you really think about. Guy's throw around bench numbers like frisbee's all the time. If you join the 400 club, and train as a BB'er only, you have really accomplish something. PL'ers are a different story all together. Big bencher's are born to it. They are the exception, like high school kids pressing 315-330 for reps.
Though repping out at the NFL combo's (or at a team training room) is cool, it never is any gauge to actual playing strength. Coaches know, or should, this. Seen 250lb linemen have problems with 250 benches, yet can move opposing players around with ease. Good Luck.
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I would think the average bench, for even experience BB'ers, would be around 300. Give or take 20lbs. And probably 4 to 5 reps at the most. 300 is a lot of weigh for most BB'ers, if you really think about. Guy's throw around bench numbers like frisbee's all the time. If you join the 400 club, and train as a BB'er only, you have really accomplish something. PL'ers are a different story all together. Big bencher's are born to it. They are the exception, like high school kids pressing 315-330 for reps.
Though repping out at the NFL combo's (or at a team training room) is cool, it never is any gauge to actual playing strength. Coaches know, or should, this. Seen 250lb linemen have problems with 250 benches, yet can move opposing players around with ease. Good Luck.
actually agree with you here, also never understood trying to guesstimate a one rep max from a 225 for reps max, they're usually EXTREMELY overblown, an examp,e would be players claiming a 500 pound 1RM off of 30 reps with 225, no fucckign way.
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as usualy, larry allen destroys the comp this year
i think hes like 6'3'' 340. Rediculously huge.
dead by 35
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I don't know much about the positions of a US football team but I'm assuming that these guys are the heaviest guys on the team right?
Do they test the running backs and wide receivers too?
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I know in the NFL they test a players bench press strength by seeing how many times they bench 225lbs. Just curious if anyone knows any rep amounts for players, i got it up 32 times and was wondering if this was any good.
yes...that is very good
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Yes MassRuhl, that is exceptional benching. Congrats.
All football players try the bench test, though not always with the 225. Even delicate quarterback and kickers have been know to do these. Also feature power cleans as a test of strength for reps. And squats also.
All in all, those high rep benches really do not mean that much in a actual real game time. But coaches seem to get off on that stuff, for whatever reason. Good Luck.
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Thanx big mal...never really been one to do alot of max lifts in all my years of working out, usually do my 2 warmup sets , then 4-5 sets of 6-8 or 8-10 reps depending on strength and goals at that time. I've worked out in my basement all my life(bought tons of equipment over the years), so ego lifting was never an issue.
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I know in the NFL they test a players bench press strength by seeing how many times they bench 225lbs. Just curious if anyone knows any rep amounts for players, i got it up 32 times and was wondering if this was any good.
Yes thats good.......too bad it doesn't mean shit exept at the combine. We have combine training every year for up and coming players, the 225 test is just an ego boost.
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Thanx big mal...never really been one to do alot of max lifts in all my years of working out, usually do my 2 warmup sets , then 4-5 sets of 6-8 or 8-10 reps depending on strength and goals at that time. I've worked out in my basement all my life(bought tons of equipment over the years), so ego lifting was never an issue.
Oh ok cool. I made my best gains in the basement. Maybe because you can focus better, better music i dont know but basement is definatley where its at. You have a training partner?
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Of the basic football training exercises (squat, bench and cleans), the power clean transfers over the best into useable quickness, balance and strength for players, in any position. Add and push press/jerk to the cleans and you really have an all around training football movement.
Any lineman (for example) should not forget to focus on half squats (leg drive, most of the time, starts from a half crouch). Half/quarter, to top lockout, presses for benches. Half/quarter cleans for pulls. Though a full ROM should be included in any training workout. Quite a few torn tricep and biceps in football. Short range violent arm involvement is used heavily in blocking and tackling. One of the reasons that short and powerful ROM's should be encouraged, with pushing and pulling.
From my experience (take it for what it may be worth..I am not all that) the Combines are ego stroking for the owners and coaching staff of any NFL team. Everyone know the ablities of any player, in game time, through personal scouting, game films and talking to the individual players coaches. All the way back to grade school, in some cases. Pretty much a good old boy's get together at night, after the run time drills are done for the day, at those Combines. Usually a great steak dinner and cigars and Scotch after wards. All paid for by the NFl team owners association. Let's not forget the hookers and the time away from the wife for some of those guy's...Priceless! Good Luck
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actually agree with you here, also never understood trying to guesstimate a one rep max from a 225 for reps max, they're usually EXTREMELY overblown, an examp,e would be players claiming a 500 pound 1RM off of 30 reps with 225, no fucckign way.
I agree.
I did 18 reps at 225 once, and that was when my max was 315-325. The estimates said I should be benching 350+. There was no way I'd ever come close to that.
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Of the basic football training exercises (squat, bench and cleans), the power clean transfers over the best into useable quickness, balance and strength for players, in any position. Add and push press/jerk to the cleans and you really have an all around training football movement.
Any lineman (for example) should not forget to focus on half squats (leg drive, most of the time, starts from a half crouch). Half/quarter, to top lockout, presses for benches. Half/quarter cleans for pulls. Though a full ROM should be included in any training workout. Quite a few torn tricep and biceps in football. Short range violent arm involvement is used heavily in blocking and tackling. One of the reasons that short and powerful ROM's should be encouraged, with pushing and pulling.
From my experience (take it for what it may be worth..I am not all that) the Combines are ego stroking for the owners and coaching staff of any NFL team. Everyone know the ablities of any player, in game time, through personal scouting, game films and talking to the individual players coaches. All the way back to grade school, in some cases. Pretty much a good old boy's get together at night, after the run time drills are done for the day, at those Combines. Usually a great steak dinner and cigars and Scotch after wards. All paid for by the NFl team owners association. Let's not forget the hookers and the time away from the wife for some of those guy's...Priceless! Good Luck
Gotta disagree om this one. Half squats ruin knees also, It sounds like your in belief of position training. I for one don't believe in position training exept when it come to the quarterback, I especially don't believe that there should be position protocols for conditioning as well.
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I agree.
I did 18 reps at 225 once, and that was when my max was 315-325. The estimates said I should be benching 350+. There was no way I'd ever come close to that.
I did 17 the first and only time i did it. i was 20 i think
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combines are for that and honestly dont think it proves anything....some guys cant bench 225 more than 5 times but are freakishly strong on the field and vice versa...im a little guy 5'8 195 but im throwing up 225 12 times but alot of my team mates it just seems are stronger all those combines and camps we go through for college are pointless if you can play you can play
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combines are for that and honestly dont think it proves anything....some guys cant bench 225 more than 5 times but are freakishly strong on the field and vice versa...im a little guy 5'8 195 but im throwing up 225 12 times but alot of my team mates it just seems are stronger all those combines and camps we go through for college are pointless if you can play you can play
i agree here, never understood what the importance of a bench press test has for a football player, they should have a squat or power clean round at the combine instead.
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combines are for that and honestly dont think it proves anything....some guys cant bench 225 more than 5 times but are freakishly strong on the field and vice versa...im a little guy 5'8 195 but im throwing up 225 12 times but alot of my team mates it just seems are stronger all those combines and camps we go through for college are pointless if you can play you can play
I agree. When I observed the players at USC last week, alot of these guys had a hard time putting up 225 x 5. On the other end of the spectrum, you have a guy doing flat DB presses with 170's for a reletively easy 5.
http://momentumperform.proboards58.com/index.cgi
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Actually quite a few coaches favor short range joint training added to an all around training protocol. They can be part of the whole when setting up a training program. Funny thing is that, if you could get a 100 coaches in a room, you might have a 100 different slants of what really is correct training for a highlighted sport. But there are usually one or two focal points agreed upon by all. In training (or training theory), one size does not fit all.
I do not believe in position training either. Hope it did not sounded that way. More of a combination to fit the whole of a single athlete, whatever the position. Only difference might be a kicker & quarterback, who have a different protocol with special drill times.
Half squats, benches or even pulls can have the ability to strengthen and condition joints, rather than cause undo stress. If the training is thought out and planned accordingly. If a past, or potential injury arises, than by all means caution should be the guide when joint/short range movements are concerned. As mentions before, in the other post, a union of full ROM and half reps seems to work for the betterment of most players. That is in regard to lifting. Good Luck.
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No, had one when i first started, but prefer training alone, no talking to anyone, just lifting. Dont know anyone as dedicated (wife prefers the word psychotic) to never miss my 4 workouts per week. In 25 years, never taken a layoff ( ok, psychotic fits ), except for occasional illness.
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No, had one when i first started, but prefer training alone, no talking to anyone, just lifting. Dont know anyone as dedicated (wife prefers the word psychotic) to never miss my 4 workouts per week. In 25 years, never taken a layoff ( ok, psychotic fits ), except for occasional illness.
thats how I trained the first three years I worked out.age 15-18.and looking back it's the fondest memories I have of lifting weights.just you the weight and some loud ass music.which back then was alot on Alice in chains and STP.Good times 4 sure.
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Now its Godsmack , disturbed or seether to power through.....with an occasional hairband thrown in there( what can i say, i came from the 80's/90's)....lol
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actually agree with you here, also never understood trying to guesstimate a one rep max from a 225 for reps max, they're usually EXTREMELY overblown, an examp,e would be players claiming a 500 pound 1RM off of 30 reps with 225, no fucckign way.
I'm almost sure I'm good for 30-35 reps @ 225 and a 385 1rm is out of the question......
for now !
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