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Title: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Ron on February 09, 2009, 11:29:47 AM

The Arnold Classic is coming up fast, with 4 weeks to go, and the question is, can Toney Freeman  make the top 5.  The last time I predicted Toney at the O in 9th place, I ate that prediction, as Toney destroyed that prediction with an incredible run at the O.

So here goes....

1) Victor Martinez - the man to beat.
2) Kai Green - will Kai be ready and live up to the 2nd place finish that so many are saying he will be.
3) Branch Warren - the man is hungry for a great placing, considering he had to drop out of the Olympia.
4) Silvio Samuel - He can only get better from the Ironman.
5) Toney Freeman - which Toney will we see at ther 2009 Arnold?

Dennis James and Moe El Moussawi - looking good, and wont repeat past mistakes...


Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Wiggs on February 09, 2009, 11:33:08 AM
Tony will be 3rd. Kai will win. hope this helps.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: calfzilla on February 09, 2009, 11:35:54 AM
In that line up I would hope so.  If not, suicide is always an option. 
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: D_1000 on February 09, 2009, 11:36:16 AM
1) Toney Freeman
2) Kai Green
3) Victor Martinez
4) Silvio
5) Branch

No good pictures of Victor's legs = suspicious.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: HUGEPECS on February 09, 2009, 11:42:34 AM
if only Toney was 5yrs younger
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: michael arvilla on February 09, 2009, 11:47:23 AM
                          yes .....(i had him higher at the "Olympia")
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Griffith on February 09, 2009, 12:18:42 PM
he could easily make top 4.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Stark on February 09, 2009, 12:26:17 PM
I can see Tony Freeman make easily the top 4, would be awesome for him
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:28:15 PM
Toney should beat Silvio and Branch at his best.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 12:28:35 PM
If Silvio Samuel beats Tony.

Its not even fun anymore.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: DanKennedy on February 09, 2009, 12:29:37 PM
Tony will win the Arnold's.
Dan
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Stark on February 09, 2009, 12:29:54 PM
If Silvio Samuel beats Tony.

Its not even fun anymore.

I swear to god I think of some way of ruining that bitches life if that happens again
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Stark on February 09, 2009, 12:30:46 PM
The Arnold Classic is coming up fast, with 4 weeks to go, and the question is, can Toney Freeman  make the top 5.  The last time I predicted Toney at the O in 9th place, I ate that prediction, as Toney destroyed that prediction with an incredible run at the O.

So here goes....

1) Victor Martinez - the man to beat.
2) Kai Green - will Kai be ready and live up to the 2nd place finish that so many are saying he will be.
3) Branch Warren - the man is hungry for a great placing, considering he had to drop out of the Olympia.
4) Silvio Samuel - He can only get better from the Ironman.
5) Toney Freeman - which Toney will we see at ther 2009 Arnold?

Dennis James and Moe El Moussawi - looking good, and wont repeat past mistakes...




he's going to look like dogpoo, you see :) his time is over, and thank fuck I HATE that stupid look, no aesthetic what so ever muscles slapped onto a frame.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 09, 2009, 01:09:52 PM
The Arnold this year will suck ass.  Who cares who wins?  Used to be the Arnold winner was automatically considered the #1 threat to Mr. O. 

Hell, everyone is a threat to the current Mr. O.  And this year the main players, Wolf, Dex, Cutler, Heath, etc..  are out.  So basically it is either Kai or Toney's show to lose.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Moen on February 09, 2009, 01:19:32 PM
Toney should be mr o in all honesty!
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: delta9mda on February 09, 2009, 01:21:43 PM
if only Toney was 5yrs younger
Toney doesnt need to be younger, he's kicking the younger guys asses. Ron, Toney made you eat your words when you said he wouldnt be top 6(? or 10) at the olympia. Will it happen again? From what ive seen hes on track for a big payday.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 09, 2009, 01:35:18 PM
Yes he will finish 4th
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: JasonH on February 09, 2009, 01:37:37 PM
Kai Green in 2nd place Ron?

Hmm, doubt it. I think Toney Freeman will beat him.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: L00n on February 09, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
I WANNA SEE SOME REALLY BIG GUY WIN THE SHOW BIG LIKE... TONEY
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 09, 2009, 01:39:22 PM
Kai Greene has unlimited potential for muscle building
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on February 09, 2009, 03:18:20 PM
Somehow, I don't think Arnold will allow a guy like Kai Greene, with his sordid pornographic past, win such a prestigious title. It would make a mockery of a contest that Arnold still has his name attached to.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Method101 on February 09, 2009, 03:28:44 PM
Tony should place ahead of silvio unless somthing goes wrong in his preperations.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Wiggs on February 09, 2009, 03:39:03 PM
Somehow, I don't think Arnold will allow a guy like Kai Greene, with his sordid pornographic past, win such a prestigious title. It would make a mockery of a contest that Arnold still has his name attached to.

Victor is a felon and he won. 

Arnold did his share of "homoery", I'm sure he can appreciate a hard working man like Kai ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Karl Kox on February 09, 2009, 04:10:40 PM
I think Tony can beat Silvio
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Grenade on February 09, 2009, 08:23:47 PM
silvio looks like crap next to tony
silvio got no shoulders, no width, no back thickness, no back width, huge bulging insulin gut, all legs
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: honest on February 09, 2009, 09:11:23 PM
I had Tony third at last years Olympia, If Victors on it will be close, Kai is real good, but i dont think fucking a grapefruit all over the internet will help his cause.

1st Freeman
2nd Kai
3rd Martinez, legs down in size similar to leverones late leg development, and not dry enough for the guys who place ahead of him.

Both Kai and Tony have really nailed their condition in their last shows something i still believe Victor is yet to do, especially of late, but if hes in the same condition as Tony and Kai and his legs havent dropped anysize he will win.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: The.Giant on February 09, 2009, 09:19:51 PM
Top 3, possibly win the whole thing depending on how Vic and Kai show up.

Branch will be 4th.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: HeyNow on February 09, 2009, 09:31:10 PM
If Toney comes in like he did they Olympia, he will take it.  Vic is a great bodybuilder, but I dont believe all the hype around him calling him the uncrowned Olympia etc.  Toney's physique when in condition is near flawless, that pec injury is sooooo minor; at his height putting on that much size and conditioning he should be rewarded if he brings it, with the title.

I thought Phil was going to compete?  I am really bummed, I figured Phil would take it, and Toney would be second. Only MD creates all this hype for Vic he is their top guy and thats why he places so high, his conditioning is never that dry. but IMO is not one of the 8 best currently active bodybuilders.
1.Toney
2.Kai
3.Dennis (only if he nails his conditioning)
4.Vic
5.Sylvio
6.Branch
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Stavios on February 09, 2009, 09:49:43 PM
vic needs to stop whatever he is doing to carb up.

I saw a video of him looking SUPER dry a day before an olympia
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Atlantic on February 10, 2009, 12:48:48 AM
Victor should win; but they might not give it to him to make sure he doesn’t win the O

Victor can be a solid 2nd

To me if he won the Olympia I wouldn’t have complained


Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 10, 2009, 08:28:35 AM
Why is victor the man to beat especially after screwing up his leg.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: local hero on February 10, 2009, 08:33:29 AM
am i the only one who thinks kai is totaly over rated?????
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 10, 2009, 08:35:20 AM
How is Kai over rated?? What is he lacking??
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: local hero on February 10, 2009, 08:38:26 AM
from the front, if u watch him straight on his shape is just weird,, wide waist... just dont like it
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Option D on February 10, 2009, 08:39:36 AM
The Arnold Classic is coming up fast, with 4 weeks to go, and the question is, can Toney Freeman  make the top 5.  The last time I predicted Toney at the O in 9th place, I ate that prediction, as Toney destroyed that prediction with an incredible run at the O.

So here goes....

1) Victor Martinez - the man to beat.
2) Kai Green - will Kai be ready and live up to the 2nd place finish that so many are saying he will be.
3) Branch Warren - the man is hungry for a great placing, considering he had to drop out of the Olympia.
4) Silvio Samuel - He can only get better from the Ironman.
5) Toney Freeman - which Toney will we see at ther 2009 Arnold?

Dennis James and Moe El Moussawi - looking good, and wont repeat past mistakes...




toney before silvio and branch. You really disrespected Toney with that ranking "Ron" ::)

I dont know if you guys remember last year but i predicted the top 6 of the arnold exactly right. BOOM

I think 1, 2 and 3 are really up for grabs. Not sure if Vic is 100% post knee surgery. Kai and Toney will do battle crazy. So this year..No predictions at all. Way too close with some solid names here.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Sam on February 10, 2009, 08:40:48 AM
am i the only one who thinks kai is totaly over rated?????

Yes, Kai is a fantastic BB. Perhaps the only flaw is he is a little wide in the waist but that apart superb, and his conditioning is second to none
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 10, 2009, 10:26:08 AM
I don't find the fascination with Vic.  That time he put the oil in his arms he looked so blocky.  I have only seen 1 or 2 photos of him where he looked good enough to impress.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Ron on February 16, 2009, 06:09:50 PM


Freeman now has vaulted into the top spots, based on rumors and predictions, according to Isaac. 

However, I still have Freeman in third place. 
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: adipo8 on February 16, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
Enough Ron

Toney Competed nine times last year and was very productive.  You were incorrect on your selection even though you are sitting as close as I was.

You keep slating Toney as being inconsistent which is far from the Truth - Except for the Mr.O (07) when X was sick. His Conditioning and consistent placings have been incredible.

Stage competing is gaining experience. Knowing the Stage , the judges , the Crowd and your competition.

Melvin Anthony
Joel stubbs
Moe
wolfe
Dennis James
Silvio Samuels
Darreem charles
david Henry
Phil Heath
Dexter jackson
Jay Cutler

Victor has NEVER  beaten Jay Cutler .. Yet X looks to all but Take him apart ..... So the Questions is - Victor recovering from surgery can out muscle , pose , and stage conditioning against two showman like Freeman and Kai ?

Points you fail to see:
1. Freeman - out posed and muscled Melvin Anthony at the O ( wasn't suppose to happen by the experts)
2. Victor - has not been worked on stage since 07 -  How can you improve what you do not do ?
3. Freeman has Battled it out in 9 shows with four rounds and night shows - Improvement goes to Freeman !
4. Victors laid back stage presentations is not going to get it ....

There are your top four.
Really Ron I expect more from you ....

This is going to be a Great show - everyone will be ready and a New Champion will be Crowned
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Stavios on February 16, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
Lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on Adipo, I am also rooting for Toney but that Victor picture is from 2005 when Vic looked like shit
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Wiggs on February 16, 2009, 09:29:03 PM
Lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on Adipo, I am also rooting for Toney but that Victor picture is from 2005 when Vic looked like shit

lol.  I was gonna say.  Victor looks like caca there.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: DeketheCreep on February 16, 2009, 10:29:24 PM
lol.  I was gonna say.  Victor looks like caca there.
hahaa do you always say caca when some one looks bad onstage  ;D
mmmhhh im gona say
1.Vic
2.Kai
3.Freeman
4.Branch
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: adipo8 on February 17, 2009, 08:47:15 AM
X -Last time they met head to head - 07 - 4th place ? he placed Third and is Better Now!

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Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: kyomu on February 17, 2009, 09:06:44 AM
If Silvio Samuel beats Tony.

Its not even fun anymore.
Exactly,
 if it happens, BBing pro contests will be 100% like Pro-wrestling.(OK,60% already...)
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: gymguy on February 24, 2009, 04:32:08 PM
Possibly, but based on this line-up, I see Toney in 6th or maybe 5th place.
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: Option D on February 25, 2009, 09:30:05 AM
Possibly, but based on this line-up, I see Toney in 6th or maybe 5th place.
Toney brings in teh 2nd place

Phil
Toney
Vic
Grapefruit man
Silvio
Yoda...

Boom..
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: adipo8 on February 25, 2009, 05:57:19 PM
X
Title: Re: 2009 Arnold - Can Toney Freeman make the top 4?
Post by: HE-MAN2012 on February 27, 2009, 08:32:43 AM
I think Toney needs a LOT more mass for height. He's too old now to get himself where he needs. IMO he needs a few years of mass building to become really impressive, and he'll be retired by then.
I was never that big a fan of Silvio. I guess the judges like that he's always conditioned, but his physique doesn't strike me as that special. I think it should be Victor then Kai, but of course Victor is still a question mark coming from the injury, and they say Kai put on too much fat.