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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Topic started by: Bleed4IT on March 12, 2009, 12:49:45 PM
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I blame my genetics because no matter how hard I work it takes forever for me to get a vein to come to the surface. I'm kind of curious where everyone else stands on this topic. I could be missing something but it seems like I show fewer compared to someone else of equal size/BF%.
Comments/tips.....
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Could be just genetic - some people are more vascular than others - look at Jay Cutler - he's huge and hardly has a visible vein - Flex Wheeler was the same. I wouldn't worry about the lack of veins - they'll come out to an extent with low bodyfat but you might just have thicker skin than most. Musle definition is what matters - not how much veins you have.
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What are you trying to get vascular for; competition or vanity in the gym?
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More of an observation at this point, I have what i refer to as "the minimum" necessary to justify myself. However they never hurt when its mirror time!
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it's genetic man, I pretty much don't see any veins even 1 week out from a show
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Moderate weight,less rest between sets,higher reps (8-15),more water,and cardio.
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Veins are not all they are cracked up to be.
I'm extremely vascular, much to my own dismay. :-\
I can be at 12-15% body fat, and have spider webs in my shoulders. My hands, I think more due in part to playing guitar than any other factor, are display veins no matter what. I can be 35% (don't think I've ever been above 15-18%) and still have veins on top of my hands.
When I lean out, as I'm currently just about finished doing, people consistently and constantly make comments about them. They are disgusted by them. I can't help it, unless I want to be a lard ass like Goodrum, but I like being lean so I live with the veins.
Like the others have said, it's genetics. Having thin (or thinner than other people) skin, low body fat, and also how you train (to some extent) that all plays part in what your vascular system looks like from the outside.
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Veins are not all they are cracked up to be.
I'm extremely vascular, much to my own dismay. :-\
I can be at 12-15% body fat, and have spider webs in my shoulders. My hands, I think more due in part to playing guitar than any other factor, are display veins no matter what. I can be 35% (don't think I've ever been above 15-18%) and still have veins on top of my hands.
When I lean out, as I'm currently just about finished doing, people consistently and constantly make comments about them. They are disgusted by them. I can't help it, unless I want to be a lard ass like Goodrum, but I like being lean so I live with the veins.
Like the others have said, it's genetics. Having thin (or thinner than other people) skin, low body fat, and also how you train (to some extent) that all plays part in what your vascular system looks like from the outside.
I'm the same - I'm hardly ripped but it doesn't take many low-carb days to bring out the ol' shoulder veins - it doesn't look pretty when they're the only veins showing and I can still barely see my abs - I can't get a bicep vein at all.
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Doesn't even take a low/high carb day for me. They are there, no matter what. I usually have biceps veins year round, but those will cover up more than the shoulders/hands.
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higher reps, creating the best pump possible. and i really believe that i created my vascularity by posing extremely hard when the muscles were pumped. i could feel so much blood in the veins that they would actually hurt from the expansion.
and my blood pressure has never been out of normal range. resting pulse 47-53.
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Damn bro......looking freaky (great)!!
Big props!
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Those veins in the 2nd photo make even Ronnie Coleman look soft.
Garden hose veins for sure, man. Don't tell me those pics were offseason! ???
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That's amazing Hazbin. Very impressive!
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Hazbin has the freakiest vasculature EVER :o
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Hazbin has the freakiest vasculature EVER :o
thanx guys,
it gets outta hand once in a while. there are times it actually blurs my definition and striations.
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That's the first time I've seen forearms that blow away Mike Mentzer's and Casey Viator's.
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thanx guys,
it gets outta hand once in a while. there are times it actually blurs my definition and striations.
That last photo is ridiculous. :o
Might make Frank McGrath jealous!
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That's the first time I've seen forearms that blow away Mike Mentzer's and Casey Viator's.
Mike, Casey and Arnold were three that i admired the most in the seventies.
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Insane !....nice S/N by the way :)
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dude that is just disgusting ;D
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The last picture is just utterly ridiculous
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I'm at a loss for words! :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=269714.0;attach=310973;image)
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gosh!!! i can see a world map !!! great workkk ;D
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Hazbin, do you have giant hands or something? Your forearm is massive, yet your hand looks even bigger..... :D
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Hazbin, do you have giant hands or something? Your forearm is massive, yet your hand looks even bigger..... :D
ya, even at 12 years my hands were huge.
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ya, even at 12 years my hands were huge.
That's pretty muscular for 12. Since we're throwing up these type of pics, here's me at 13 with my "Weider Power Crusher."
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That's pretty muscular for 12. Since we're throwing up these type of pics, here's me at 13 with my "Weider Power Crusher."
cool. i bet you remember the ad with Rudy Hermisillo doing that in the 70's Weider ads.
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cool. i bet you remember the ad with Rudy Hermisillo doing that in the 70's Weider ads.
Yeah, I think he won the teen Mr. America and the teen USA. I remember I was the only kid in my classroom that could bend that thing.
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Yeah, I think he won the teen Mr. America and the teen USA. I remember I was the only kid in my classroom that could bend that thing.
he was Sly Stallone's bodygaurd. won the teen mr A. but they said after he was over 20.
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he was Sly Stallone's bodygaurd. won the teen mr A. but they said after he was over 20.
That's right. I was at this show in 78 in California called the Pro World Cup, that Robbie Robinson won and Rudy won his show that night and Stallone, dressed in his white "Saturday Night Fever" suit handed out the Trophy to Rudy.
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That's right. I was at this show in 78 in California called the Pro World Cup, that Robbie Robinson won and Rudy won his show that night and Stallone, dressed in his white "Saturday Night Fever" suit handed out the Trophy to Rudy.
didn't they give Robbi a portrait of himself at that show?
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didn't they give Robbi a portrait of himself at that show?
Yeah, I think you're right. I was only about 15 at the time so my memory is a little sketchy. I think it was a big framed portrait of Robbie hitting a bicep shot of some sort. That was a cool trip for me. My father knew Joe Weider and he arranged for me to stay with Mike Mentzer and his girlfriend for a few days. I took some good workouts with Mike. He was strong as hell back then.
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Yeah, I think you're right. I was only about 15 at the time so my memory is a little sketchy. I think it was a big framed portrait of Robbie hitting a bicep shot of some sort. That was a cool trip for me. My father knew Joe Weider and he arranged for me to stay with Mike Mentzer and his girlfriend for a few days. I took some good workouts with Mike. He was strong as hell back then.
fuck man, that would have been the highlight of my life!
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fuck man, that would have been the highlight of my life!
It was awesome! I know he had problems a few years later, but he was really nice to me then. He was very cool and was very positive at that time because he really thought he would be Mr. Olympia eventually, his mail order courses were selling great. I remember going backstage at the 79 Olympia. He was pretty sure he was going to beat Zane and he said to me, "I think I'm going to win." Zane won, of course. But then after also losing the 80' Mr. Olympia, getting into amphetamines, his dad dying, he kind of snapped.
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But then after also losing the 80' Mr. Olympia, getting into amphetamines, his dad dying, he kind of snapped.
Someone on here once said that Mike freaked so bad that he would sometimes run out in traffic, or one time he ran into Golds Gym paranoid and hid under a desk or something.
Any stories as to these kind of activities Mike did after/during his "snapped phase?"
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Holy shit - those veins on Hazbin are unreal - freakier than anyone I've ever seen, pro or otherwise. :o
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Someone on here once said that Mike freaked so bad that he would sometimes run out in traffic, or one time he ran into Golds Gym paranoid and hid under a desk or something.
Any stories as to these kind of activities Mike did after/during his "snapped phase?"
I wasn't in touch with him then but I've heard some of these stories. It's well chronicled that abusing speed or stimulants like coke or freebase can derange your neurotransmitter levels to the point where one becomes totally out of touch with reality. Mike was institutionalized several times but recovered in the early 90's. The workouts he started recomending then, like doing 1 set per bodypart every 2 weeks, were way different to the one's I watched him do. He would do about 3 sets per exercise and about 3 or 4 exercises per bodypart, so somewhere along 9 to 10 sets a bodypart. But lots of forced reps and supersets..with heavy weights.
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Veins are not all they are cracked up to be.
I'm extremely vascular, much to my own dismay. :-\
I agree with this. With vascularity, less is more-literally just a vein here and there adds a little something, but very quickly anything beyond that quickly becomes disgusting. I tried but never got much vascularity then realized that cuts and refinement are a lot more impressive; the more the better in this case, unlike vascularity.
The other thing about vascularity is that i've always believed that a combination of genetics and certain drug cocktails tend to bring out the less attractive vascularity that is closer to the surface of the skin. Very unnatural looking and again unnatractive. The really dry and healthy looking BBs from the old days didn't have this for the most part.