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Title: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 22, 2009, 10:36:34 PM
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Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: DeketheCreep on March 22, 2009, 10:41:41 PM
'' It will only hurt for a little while''
 ;D
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 22, 2009, 10:56:43 PM


Title of the song says it all.
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Post by: The Master on March 22, 2009, 10:59:38 PM
Very good exercise, and brutally hard.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: jtsunami on March 22, 2009, 11:32:15 PM
no pro uses this shit
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 23, 2009, 02:37:32 AM
u r all crazy/too afraid to try HIIT or tabata's

go ahead- keep wasting hours on end walking on a incline on a treadmill at 4.0 miles an hour
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: webcake on March 23, 2009, 02:39:47 AM
Very hard.

Quick too. Not the typical "bb'ing style cardio", but worth a shot. Next time i cut i will do a mix of HIIT and low intensity cardio.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: INSOMNIA on March 23, 2009, 02:42:40 AM
Its perfect for people that train drug-free.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Nordic Superman on March 23, 2009, 03:06:54 AM
no pro uses this shit

Its perfect for people that train drug-free.

Pros would die of heart attack at the first attempt of HIIT.

HIIT is awesome, results are better than anything else I have tried.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: pumpster on March 23, 2009, 03:16:26 AM
You have to make the adjustment to the demands, once you do it's faster and at least the same results as lower intensity for longer periods of time. When i do HIIT then go back to longer cardio my endurance has increased.

Same thing as lifting with higher intensity using less volume; more work is done in less time.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: CoolDuck on March 23, 2009, 03:28:12 AM
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HIIT is ok, but 4x4 (Warmup->4 minutes @ 80 to 95 percent of mx heart-rate->3 min active rest-> repeat the preceeding 3 more times) is probably better for athletic purposes.

CD
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 23, 2009, 03:30:03 AM
Pros would die of heart attack at the first attempt of HIIT.

HIIT is awesome, results are better than anything else I have tried.

QFMFT
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on March 23, 2009, 03:40:12 AM
I like intervals.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 23, 2009, 03:46:58 AM

Title of the song says it all.

That song is about gay people.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Fatpanda on March 23, 2009, 03:49:18 AM
good way to get fit and slim quickly
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 23, 2009, 12:42:43 PM
That song is about gay people.
I have never listened to it. I just saw the title and thought it fitting.  ;)

All Cardio is a inefficient if its purpose is to "lose bodyfat".

It should be used to rejuvenate and sustain the respiratory system.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 23, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
I have never listened to it. I just saw the title and thought it fitting.  ;)

All Cardio is a inefficient if its purpose is to "lose bodyfat".

It should be used to rejuvenate and sustain the respiratory system.

Translation = I'm talking out of my ass and as with many getbiggers I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about when it comes to training and nutrition. 
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: jehwit on March 23, 2009, 12:46:52 PM
As someone who has recently decided to become a Pro Bodybuilder, let me add my two cents.  I think my good friend Bobby Chick has the right idea with low intensity steady state cardio.  It's what we feel is best to prevent muscle wasting. ;)
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Andy Griffin on March 23, 2009, 12:49:57 PM
I'm no bodybuilder, but I find HIIT to be effective. 
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 23, 2009, 01:16:33 PM
As someone who has recently decided to become a Pro Bodybuilder, let me add my two cents.  I think my good friend Bobby Chick has the right idea with low intensity steady state cardio.  It's what we feel is best to prevent muscle wasting. ;)

Please.........Chick's tubby ass couldn't sprint up his driveway without gassing out.  Say what you want about HIIT but if done correctly is very effective at sparing muscle and losing fat.  But it can lead to overtraining if abused.  That's the problem with bodybuilders they have no clue what moderation is.  If this is effective well shit I can do 10x as much and it must be even more effective.  With dieting, drugs, and proper training cardio as far as losing fat and gaining muscle is useless.  The only point of cardio is keeping yourself in half way decent "shape" cardiovascularly speaking.  I see the same old people day in and day out month in and month out on the treadmills because they think steady state cardio is so effective at burningn fat.  Especially women.  Meanwhile the women that are lifting weights or atleast doing circuit type training and miles away ahead of them in the fat burning department.  Women idolize the fitness/toned type female physique but they train to look like a runner.  Makes no sense to me. 
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Andy Griffin on March 23, 2009, 01:23:04 PM
A fellow that doesn't do HIIT...

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Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: QuakerOats on March 23, 2009, 01:24:13 PM
Please.........Chick's tubby ass couldn't sprint up his driveway without gassing out.  Say what you want about HIIT but if done correctly is very effective at sparing muscle and losing fat.  But it can lead to overtraining if abused.  That's the problem with bodybuilders they have no clue what moderation is.  If this is effective well shit I can do 10x as much and it must be even more effective.  With dieting, drugs, and proper training cardio as far as losing fat and gaining muscle is useless.  The only point of cardio is keeping yourself in half way decent "shape" cardiovascularly speaking.  I see the same old people day in and day out month in and month out on the treadmills because they think steady state cardio is so effective at burningn fat.  Especially women.  Meanwhile the women that are lifting weights or atleast doing circuit type training and miles away ahead of them in the fat burning department.  Women idolize the fitness/toned type female physique but they train to look like a runner.  Makes no sense to me. 
are you ever going to post a picture of yourself? ::)
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 23, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
are you ever going to post a picture of yourself? ::)

 ::)  Dude you really are obsessed with me posting a pic. 
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: pumpster on March 23, 2009, 01:33:10 PM
I think my good friend Bobby Chick has the right idea with low intensity steady state cardio.  It's what we feel is best to prevent muscle wasting. ;)

Guys like chick do that because it's easier IMO, but ponderous and often boring in terms of time. If you're ready to make some serious effort it's a lot faster to get it out of the way with higher intensity.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 23, 2009, 01:33:47 PM
Translation = I'm talking out of my ass and as with many getbiggers I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about when it comes to training and nutrition. 
Right. ::)
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Blockhead on March 23, 2009, 01:44:16 PM
I have never listened to it. I just saw the title and thought it fitting.  ;)

All Cardio is a inefficient if its purpose is to "lose bodyfat".

It should be used to rejuvenate and sustain the respiratory system.
Respiratory System or Cardiovascular System or both?


 What would the benefits be to the aveoli and purkinje fibers with engaging in regular 'cardio' ?


 (Google: aveoli. Click. Click. Read...read...read...not es...notes...read. Google: purkinje fibers. Click. Click. read... read.. notes...read)

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Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 23, 2009, 02:02:10 PM
Respiratory System or Cardiovascular System or both?


 What would the benefits be to the aveoli and purkinje fibers with engaging in regular 'cardio' ?


 (Google: aveoli. Click. Click. Read...read...read...not es...notes...read. Google: purkinje fibers. Click. Click. read... read.. notes...read)

 ( Go back to Getbig and post a well informed well educated answer twisted and tweaked in true TA fashion. )
Treatment for Respiratory Problems

Treatment for respiratory problems changes according the type of problem.  Breathing is a necessity of life and a source for many micro-organisms to enter the body, a reservoir for infectious diseases.  Many of these problems have no relief other than seeking professional medical attention.  Decongestants are often taken for sinus problems, as well as humidifiers and strong smelling medication externally applied.  The only assistance for asthma is having the ability to recognize the warning signs of an oncoming attack and using an inhaler.  Bronchitis, emphysema, tuberculosis, SARS, lung cancer and Avian Flu will either pass on their own or require a lot of medical attention. 

An individual does have the ability to increase the performance of his/her respiratory system.  Exercise and physical activity allow the cardio-respiratory system to strengthen and lung capacity to increase, making your heart's job slightly easier. 

Not doing things to your body is as important as doing things for your body.  Drugs as a whole have a negative affect on human's bodies.  Smoking cigarettes and other drugs weaken your heart and the ability of your blood to carry oxygen and carbon dioxide to and from the lungs.  Carbon monoxide is the worst of these inhalants as blood has a stronger affinity for this gas and will carry this before oxygen.  Once inside the blood, the carbon monoxide will not be released the way normal exchange occurs, creating a suffocating effect.

When dealing with non-communicable respiratory diseases, decisions early on are the source of treatment.  To cure lung cancer, do not smoke and try to not develop the disease by avoiding this major trigger.  Lung cancer does arise without smoking, in those cases medical help, alternatives to medicine or chemotherapy are often needed.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Nordic Superman on March 24, 2009, 06:49:16 AM
I have never listened to it. I just saw the title and thought it fitting.  ;)

All Cardio is a inefficient if its purpose is to "lose bodyfat".

It should be used to rejuvenate and sustain the respiratory system.

Inefficient? Where's the science behind this statement? HIIT cardio has far reaching consequences outside of respiratory health, including increased secretions of metabolism boosting hormones. When the body is condition into a HIIT regime the body acclimatizes in a way that is superior to diet manipulation - I personally can eat pretty much anything (within reason) I want thanks to HIIT.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 24, 2009, 10:07:45 AM
Inefficient? Where's the science behind this statement? HIIT cardio has far reaching consequences outside of respiratory health, including increased secretions of metabolism boosting hormones. When the body is condition into a HIIT regime the body acclimatizes in a way that is superior to diet manipulation - I personally can eat pretty much anything (within reason) I want thanks to HIIT.
I eat whatever I want with zero cardio.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 24, 2009, 10:14:23 AM
Inefficient? Where's the science behind this statement? HIIT cardio has far reaching consequences outside of respiratory health, including increased secretions of metabolism boosting hormones. When the body is condition into a HIIT regime the body acclimatizes in a way that is superior to diet manipulation - I personally can eat pretty much anything (within reason) I want thanks to HIIT.
You tell me what is more efficient.  8 HIIT sessions or just not eating 300 extra  calories.

Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Tombo on March 24, 2009, 10:16:38 AM
I think its fantastic to build power, speed and fitness depending on what bodyparts, for sport/soccer i often did line drills in my own time and my agility and off-the-mark speed was greatly increased. But other than that, I've never had HIIT cardio help me drop fat.. going for a walk twice a week and diet has helped me much more.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Tombo on March 24, 2009, 10:25:18 AM
You tell me what is more efficient.  8 HIIT sessions or just not eating 300 extra  calories.



Adonis is right here, but i hope he understands that there are lots of benefits to cardio! I for one feel great after a good run, being fit is a nice thing to know.
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Post by: Bobby on March 24, 2009, 11:02:00 AM
You tell me what is more efficient.  8 HIIT sessions or just not eating 300 extra  calories.



doing any kind of cardio will increase your metabolism + you have 300 calories less (burned off)

not eating extra 300 calories will lower your metabolism + you have 300 calories less
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Fatpanda on March 24, 2009, 11:07:16 AM
You tell me what is more efficient.  8 HIIT sessions or just not eating 300 extra  calories.



if you are only burning 300 cals with 8 hiit sesions then you are doing it wrong and its no wonder you don't realise the benefits of it.

up your heart rate to 90% + and try again. if you don't need to lie down after the first few workouts,try harder.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: pumpster on March 24, 2009, 11:08:51 AM
I've never had HIIT cardio help me drop fat.. going for a walk twice a week and diet has helped me much more.

Not very convincing. Do HIIT or standard cardio instead of walking with diet gets your the same or better.
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Post by: benchthis on March 24, 2009, 11:15:21 AM
Right. ::)
looking good dude
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Post by: Hedgehog on March 24, 2009, 03:00:37 PM
It's great for overall health. Try the Tabata protocol for a few weeks, you're resting heart rate will go down and general health status will improve.

Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Deicide on March 24, 2009, 04:56:24 PM
I am thinking intense cardio does help to jumpstart the metabolism, at least that has been my experience.
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Post by: leonp1981 on March 24, 2009, 07:25:36 PM
I've just started doing something like this, using sprints.  I've got a 70-80 metre garden, so I jog the first 40, then sprint the rest, turn round and do it again.  The first day I did it, I was fooked after 10 runs, really knackered me out, but it felt good.
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Post by: Andy Griffin on March 25, 2009, 01:38:17 AM
I've just started doing something like this, using sprints.  I've got a 70-80 metre garden, so I jog the first 40, then sprint the rest, turn round and do it again.  The first day I did it, I was fooked after 10 runs, really knackered me out, but it felt good.

I do the same sort of sprint interval exercise on a recumbent bike.  I find it to be effective, at least for general fitness.  I do not fully understand the underlying science, but I do feel younger and stronger every day. 
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Post by: Nordic Superman on March 25, 2009, 03:15:08 AM
You tell me what is more efficient.  8 HIIT sessions or just not eating 300 extra  calories.

Adonis is right here, but i hope he understands that there are lots of benefits to cardio! I for one feel great after a good run, being fit is a nice thing to know.

No he's not. HIIT doesn't stop working when the session is over, the hormonal effects continue throughout the day resulting in an overall increased speed of the metabolism.

Adonis, refute this with science; show me exactly how:

HIIT (300 cals burnt) == Diet restriction of 300 cals

TIP: You can't because your assertion is WRONG.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Fatpanda on March 25, 2009, 04:14:11 AM
No he's not. HIIT doesn't stop working when the session is over, the hormonal effects continue throughout the day resulting in an overall increased speed of the metabolism.

Adonis, refute this with science; show me exactly how:

HIIT (300 cals burnt) == Diet restriction of 300 cals

TIP: You can't because your assertion is WRONG.

exactly lowering your calories by 300 would reduce your metabolism, burning 300 cals using hiit would increase your metabolism.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Nordic Superman on March 25, 2009, 06:12:03 AM
exactly lowering your calories by 300 would reduce your metabolism, burning 300 cals using hiit would increase your metabolism.

Let's see what the pseudo scientist has to say about this.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Fatpanda on March 25, 2009, 07:36:22 AM
Let's see what the pseudo scientist finds on google and posts about this.

fixed  :D
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Nordic Superman on March 27, 2009, 03:41:40 AM
Just bumping this so that Adonis can prove me wrong with his "science".

Please hurry, here's some possible sources for formulating a pseudo-scientific rebuttal:


Or... you could chose to accept you're wrong and stop lying to people?
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: HURRICANE on April 13, 2009, 05:35:43 PM
I'll usually do half of my cardio in a more traditional sense and the other half HIIT style.  I think it's a great way to scorch extra calories.

As a side note I'd like to add that True Adonis' dogmatic advice is not to be trusted on the issue (or any training issue for that matter.  He thinks that if it works for him, then it'll work the same way for everybody.  Keep in mind every body is different before you drink the TA cool-aid.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The Master on April 17, 2009, 06:57:36 PM

up your heart rate to 90% + and try again. if you don't need to lie down after the first few workouts,try harder.


Bingo. Unless you push yourself to a point where you see stars and almost feels like puking, you ain't doing it hard enough, and the effects will not be optimal. (research supports this).


HIT cardio = outstanding way to get great cardio for sports btw.
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 17, 2009, 07:40:24 PM
You tell me what is more efficient.  8 HIIT sessions or just not eating 300 extra  calories.



300 calories?  i burn that in 25 minutes
Title: Re: What's your opinion on HIIT Cardio?
Post by: The Master on April 17, 2009, 07:43:41 PM
3 hundredliners? I sniff that in 2,5 minutes 

 :'(