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Title: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 02:47:50 PM
I just saw a story on the  news about a black woman who's going to attempt to "Shop Black" for a year. 

Only making purchases from "Black owned business", and banking at a "Black owned bank".

Is it just me or is this racist as hell?  ???

Why is it OK for Black people to practice Racism?

 ???
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 24, 2009, 02:51:50 PM
I just saw a story on the  news about a black woman who's going to attempt to "Shop Black" for a year. 

Only making purchases from "Black owned business", and banking at a "Black owned bank".

Is it just me or is this racist as hell?  ???

Why is it OK for Black people to practice Racism?

 ???

What garbage.  Racism is such a waste of time. 

Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 24, 2009, 03:13:42 PM
I just saw a story on the  news about a black woman who's going to attempt to "Shop Black" for a year. 

Only making purchases from "Black owned business", and banking at a "Black owned bank".

Is it just me or is this racist as hell?  ???

Why is it OK for Black people to practice Racism?

 ???

Is she racist or supporting her neighborhood and own?

jews do this all the time...is it racist with them???
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 03:16:01 PM
Is she racist or supporting her neighborhood and own?

jews do this all the time...is it racist with them???

What would people think if I came out saying I was going to exclusively support my "white brothers" and only shop at white establishments.

I wouldn't be to popular...
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2009, 03:17:21 PM
thats racist
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Parker on March 24, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
Is she racist or supporting her neighborhood and own?

jews do this all the time...is it racist with them???
Especially when some of the so called "black businesses" are fronts for Korean stores.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 24, 2009, 03:29:43 PM
What would people think if I came out saying I was going to exclusively support my "white brothers" and only shop at white establishments.

I wouldn't be to popular...

YES you would, because whites do that all the time... When was the last time you went to a Black, Hispanic, Asian etc community to shop???
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
YES you would, because whites do that all the time... When was the last time you went to a Black, Hispanic, Asian etc community to shop???

I went to a Mexican store to get Ancho Chiles about two days ago.  ;D
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2009, 03:34:42 PM
I went to a Mexican store to get Ancho Chiles about two days ago.  ;D
I went to china town in SF on Sunday...Not sure what that had to do with anything.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 24, 2009, 03:36:11 PM
YES you would, because whites do that all the time... When was the last time you went to a Black, Hispanic, Asian etc community to shop???

I dont go anywhere to shop with race in mind, only what is convenient.  

This is all within literally 500 feet of my office:

I get my coffee in the morning at DD and there are all Indians working there.

I get pizza across the street from my office and the place is owned by an Albanian guy.  

The beverage place is owned by an Irish guy off the boat.

The food store and the cleaners are both owned by Koreans.

The Chinese food place is owned by Chinese people.

________________________ ________________________ _______

I shop at all of these places because they are near where I live and work, not because they are of a particular race.  
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 03:37:58 PM
I use to go eat at this New Orleans lunch place run by some black people that moved here after Katrina.

It went out of Business though.  :(

Oh yeah, forgot.  "My" Chinese restaurant is owned/operated by a great Chinese family.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2009, 03:44:28 PM
I use to go eat at this New Orleans lunch place run by some black people that moved here after Katrina.

It went out of Business though.  :(

The mexican food in Atlanta sucks.. other than Buford highway
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 03:45:09 PM
The mexican food in Atlanta sucks.. other than Buford highway

My cousin lives in Atlanta GA.  He runs some kind of Custom car place.  8)
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 03:46:52 PM
Forgot about the Mexican place... This nice Mexican family has a chain of Mexican restaurants in my area that are soooo good, and at a great price.

 ;D

I would miss out on all of this if I spent my money based on race.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2009, 03:49:59 PM
Right...this is America.. every race should support other races
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 24, 2009, 03:56:39 PM
Right...this is America.. every race should support other races

Its so stupid. 

Every guy i know, whatever color they are

1.  Likes a cold beer
2.  Likes big tits
3.  Likes a round ass
4.  Is scheming to pick chicks
5.  Likes fast cars
6.  Likes watching fights or sports

Its not a racial thing, its guy thing.  Racisim is just an excuse and diversion. 

Same for women.

1.  Always spending too much $$$
2.  Always bitching at their man
3.  Always trying to get you to buy her stuff.
4.  Most feel fat


This nonsense transcends all colors.   
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
While we're on the subject of race...

I've never ever met an Asian I didn't like (except for one guy who is half white, I can't stand him  ;D)

Same with Jews, I haven't met many Jews but they all seem like really nice/caring people.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Parker on March 24, 2009, 04:05:02 PM
Its so stupid. 

Every guy i know, whatever color they are

1.  Likes a cold beer
2.  Likes big tits
3.  Likes a round ass
4.  Is scheming to pick chicks
5.  Likes fast cars
6.  Likes watching fights or sports

Its not a racial thing, its guy thing.  Racisim is just an excuse and diversion. 

Same for women.

1.  Always spending too much $$$
2.  Always bitching at their man
3.  Always trying to get you to buy her stuff.
4.  Most feel fat


This nonsense transcends all colors.   

True, but I believe the stats are that black people spend more money on material items than anybody else. Basically it's a self esteem thing, or lack there of. that is why you see rap videos with dudes flashing cars, watches, etc. And why we spend soo much. Kanye had a song on it.

So when there was a certain high price alcholic beverage that was always being popped in videos and in many songs, they said they didn't want to be associated with Hip-Hop. Jay-z, said then don't buy it....well, the company revenue went down...You don't see Rolls Royce saying the same thing. In fact google, Rolls Royce and the myriad of fugly colors you can get them in.

Black folk have often said that black owned business either are too expensive or don't have what they want. Too expensive, yet you'll buy a watch costing 10 grand from Jacob the Jeweler and the shit is made with Conflict diamonds ::)  

  
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 24, 2009, 04:07:31 PM
My honest opinion is that Bill Cosby was really on to something before he got shut down by the Jesse Jackson mob. 

 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 24, 2009, 04:08:25 PM
Something I admire about Black Guys...

You see all these white teenagers in rice burners and other junk Asian cars.  

Black guys can appreciate real cars like Impalas and Regals.  8)
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2009, 04:10:52 PM
Its so stupid. 

Every guy i know, whatever color they are

1.  Likes a cold beer
2.  Likes big tits
3.  Likes a round ass
4.  Is scheming to pick chicks
5.  Likes fast cars
6.  Likes watching fights or sports

Its not a racial thing, its guy thing.  Racisim is just an excuse and diversion. 

Same for women.

1.  Always spending too much $$$
2.  Always bitching at their man
3.  Always trying to get you to buy her stuff.
4.  Most feel fat


This nonsense transcends all colors.   
Fooking A. Esp about women.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Parker on March 24, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
My honest opinion is that Bill Cosby was really on to something before he got shut down by the Jesse Jackson mob. 

 
I agree.
Smart black dude hated on by a black Pastor who can't keep his jimmy in the pants...Classic crabs in a barrel

Plus, speaking out or going agains The Black Church as a black man is taboo. Like you're go to hell in a handbasket for doing that. Reason being, is that the Church was at the forefront of the Civil Rights era.

 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2009, 04:19:31 PM
I agree.
Smart black dude hated on by a black Pastor who can't keep his jimmy in the pants...Classic crabs in a barrel

Plus, speaking out or going against The Black Church as a black man is taboo. Like you're go to hell in a handbasket for doing that. Reason being, is that the Church was at the forefront of the Civil Rights era.

 


I really dint like revrend jackson or sharpton. I wrote them both...but i got no response.  :(   I asked them why they bring attention like Imus and Michaels (yeah it was a while ago) which aren't problems and are protected under the 1st amendment, but they dont say anything about public school funding dispairties amongst schools within the same district. In La i went to school at 2 Jr high schools. One black and one white. The black school had 1 book for every 2 students...basically was way under funded and didn't have any resources. the white middle school had 2 books per student, one for school and one for home...and a whole lot more.

Any i wrote them and gave them stats and budget copies etc...i got no response, i guess the story wasn't sexy enough...
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 24, 2009, 04:23:26 PM
YES you would, because whites do that all the time... When was the last time you went to a Black, Hispanic, Asian etc community to shop???

Spent 3 weeks in Korea, spent money...eat chinese food...eat mexican food all from Hispanic or asian businesses...ur an idiot.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 24, 2009, 04:26:20 PM
Forgot about the Mexican place... This nice Mexican family has a chain of Mexican restaurants in my area that are soooo good, and at a great price.

 ;D

I would miss out on all of this if I spent my money based on race.

We've got one like that. fast service...massive 3 dollar beers with frozen mugs...plenty of chips and salsa.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 24, 2009, 04:27:36 PM
Plus I'm headed to FT. Bliss TX....permanently as of the end of April, so I'll be eating plenty of Mexican food and shortly there after plenty of Iraqi sand.....
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 24, 2009, 04:36:36 PM
Plus I'm headed to FT. Bliss TX....permanently as of the end of April, so I'll be eating plenty of Mexican food and shortly there after plenty of Iraqi sand.....

Teh brother is going to Afg.  :'(
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 24, 2009, 04:40:45 PM
Really, well...he'll be fine dude....he's well trained. He'll be ok....don't worry. He's been doing that job for a long time.

I had a chance or a shot to head out at the end of this month but I had to much crap to do...then it was June, at a pretty good Post in Colorado..but I have some other things to do before I head out so I took the Bliss slot. I did manage to sell my house today, so its working out so far. If we can do anything for ur brother, don't hesitate to ask.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: garebear on March 24, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
I went to china town in SF on Sunday...Not sure what that had to do with anything.

I know I came into this thread a little late, but that's funny.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: garebear on March 24, 2009, 05:29:06 PM
Plus I'm headed to FT. Bliss TX....permanently as of the end of April, so I'll be eating plenty of Mexican food and shortly there after plenty of Iraqi sand.....

r u in the cav?
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: tonymctones on March 24, 2009, 05:36:58 PM
I went to china town in SF on Sunday...Not sure what that had to do with anything.
mal you live in san fran?
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Migs on March 24, 2009, 05:41:18 PM
The mexican food in Atlanta sucks.. other than Buford highway

yup, unless you are really into the corporate america type of mexican food.  up Buford highway you get any type of food you want, it's great.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 24, 2009, 05:47:55 PM
r u in the cav?


I'm headed over with 1AD...i was with a "Cav" unit as an LT.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: garebear on March 24, 2009, 05:54:08 PM
I'm headed over with 1AD...i was with a "Cav" unit as an LT.

good luck
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 24, 2009, 11:22:26 PM
I dont go anywhere to shop with race in mind, only what is convenient. 

This is all within literally 500 feet of my office:

I get my coffee in the morning at DD and there are all Indians working there.

I get pizza across the street from my office and the place is owned by an Albanian guy. 

The beverage place is owned by an Irish guy off the boat.

The food store and the cleaners are both owned by Koreans.

The Chinese food place is owned by Chinese people.

________________________ ________________________ _______

I shop at all of these places because they are near where I live and work, not because they are of a particular race. 

When you do your food shopping for your home do you deliberately go to Hispanic, Black, Asian areas to do so?
When you shop for clothing do you deliberately go to Hispanic, Black or Asian neighborhoods?
When you buy furniture do you deliberately go to Hispanic, Black or Asian neighborhoods?
The answer to all of these is NO you go to white areas (which is the area in which you live), because that is what YOU prefer...not because it is convenient and not because of time constraints of a job.

In america many people leave their neighborhoods to go to white areas to shop for these necessities because the stores in white areas are greater i number and have greater selection. So support of business within certain communities suffers as the people venture elsewhere to get what they need. This woman who decided to shop "BLACK" is doing so to support her own and while she and others may have to look harder or longer to find what she wants... in the end her community will be better off for it.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: George Whorewell on March 25, 2009, 07:13:41 AM
Black owned banks? Can someone tell me where one of these exists?
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2009, 08:38:34 AM
Black owned banks? Can someone tell me where one of these exists?

Banks are for THIEVES...that's why only whites own them....
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 08:40:46 AM
Banks are for THIEVES...that's why only whites own them....

Oh lord.  you really are out of your freaking mind.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 09:00:19 AM
mal you live in san fran?
Na i was just up there visiting. I live in Atlanta.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2009, 09:14:55 AM
Oh lord.  you really are out of your freaking mind.

Really...then list the Black or Hispanic owned banks in america....silence
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Cap on March 25, 2009, 09:28:33 AM
The guy at 7/11 told me he used to chew in India and it cost 25 cents.  I asked him to import the shit for me....sooooo I guess I support Indian.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 09:32:04 AM
Really...then list the Black or Hispanic owned banks in america....silence

Banks are owned by shareholders. 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 25, 2009, 09:33:08 AM
Yeah, that is a racist idea.  We shouldn't promote businesses owned by a certain ethnic background...just make sure people have as equal opportunities as possible to thrive and be as successful as possible.

Even in 2009, government is still awarding contracts preferentially to minority owned companies, which is not right.  Affirmative action policies need to be put to sleep now.  Let the hardest working and the best people rise, whatever their backround, gender or race.  Thats what this country is supposed to be about.

Schools have to get equal funding by the local and state governments, if not, that is truely unfair.  I'd be suprised if that commonly still happens since most of the people in education are pretty liberal and would fight against that type of thing.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2009, 09:34:12 AM
Banks are owned by shareholders. 

Show me the panel of Black or Hispanic shareholders then.....silence
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2009, 09:53:49 AM
Yeah, that is a racist idea.  We shouldn't promote businesses owned by a certain ethnic background...just make sure people have as equal opportunities to thrive and be as successful as possible.

Even in 2009, government is still awarding contracts preferentially to minority owned companies, which is not right.  Affirmative action policies need to be put to sleep now.  Let the hardest working and the best people rise, whatever their backround, gender or race.  Thats what this country is supposed to be about.

Schools have to get equal funding by the local and state governments, if not, that is truely unfair.  I'd be suprised if that commonly still happens since most of the people in education are pretty liberal and would fight against that type of thing.

Government contracts are LARGELY given to white owned businesses in america..some small contracts are sparingly given to Black and or Hispanic companies to pacify. There was a case a few years ago with a white owned construction company that took a Black owned construction company to court over FAVORITISM. The Black company was awarded a city contract (I believe it was in Phoenix Arizona) because the Black company bid the lowest. The white company complained claiming affirmative action unfairness which the Black company and the city said this had nothing to do with affirmative action, but was based solely on the lowest bidder. The white owned construction company carried the case to one court after another and tied the whole city up with nonsensical claims. The matter was eventually settled but the decision was not made public, but it only goes to show that racism is still alive and well in america and only FOOLS think that things are level, honest or fair. America was grounded in racism by whites and remains so to this day...
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 25, 2009, 09:57:19 AM
No samson.  There is a legal preference for the government to award minority owned companies contracts.  This clearly falls under the gov's affirmative action policies.  If your talking total #s, I'm sure more contracts go to non-minorities based upon #s alone but in a bidding situation, preference automatically goes to minorities (perhaps unless the contract quotas are met).  I know this for certain as it has affected several medical groups and occupational health groups hired by the government.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 10:08:02 AM
Show me the panel of Black or Hispanic shareholders then.....silence

You are so hateful you only look through everything with the prism of race. 

Its not about race, its about money. 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 10:09:35 AM
Government contracts are LARGELY given to white owned businesses in america..some small contracts are sparingly given to Black and or Hispanic companies to pacify. There was a case a few years ago with a white owned construction company that took a Black owned construction company to court over FAVORITISM. The Black company was awarded a city contract (I believe it was in Phoenix Arizona) because the Black company bid the lowest. The white company complained claiming affirmative action unfairness which the Black company and the city said this had nothing to do with affirmative action, but was based solely on the lowest bidder. The white owned construction company carried the case to one court after another and tied the whole city up with nonsensical claims. The matter was eventually settled but the decision was not made public, but it only goes to show that racism is still alive and well in america and only FOOLS think that things are level, honest or fair. America was grounded in racism by whites and remains so to this day...

Since, you hate white people so much, why dont you move someone else?
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 10:13:58 AM
Is that true?  I thought they only required companies that have contracts to be in line with affirmative action policies.  I don't think it gives preference to ownership unless I'm wrong.?

Personally, I dont have a problem with AA, but not when they get to be the lowest bidder with a 10% margin.  That's not cool at all.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
Personally, I dont have a problem with AA, but not when they get to be the lowest bidder with a 10% margin.  That's not cool at all.

I do have a problem with it. Its like spoon feeding minorities. For minorities to be looked at as equals we need to be treated as equals. People dont understand that slavery was only 150 years ago, (and whites had 400 years to establish their systems, and got mega rich because they had no labor overhead) and it was legislation passed for us to legaly be looked at as equals. From 64 till now, Minorities have come a long way in a short time. I really think AA is a crutch.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
I do have a problem with it. Its like spoon feeding minorities. For minorities to be looked at as equals we need to be treated as equals. People dont understand that slavery was only 150 years ago, (and whites had 400 years to establish their systems, and got mega rich because they had no labor overhead) and it was legislation passed for us to legaly be looked at as equals. From 64 till now, Minorities have come a long way in a short time. I really think AA is a crutch.

I meant as far as personally in my decisions.  Example,  we needed a new cleaning service at the office.  I interviewed a few people and one was a tiny company started by three young black guys starting out.  They are all about 23 y/o.  Really nice guys.  They are little higher priced than the others, but I know the others would send illegal mexicans in my office and I wanted to give these guys a try. 

I went with these three young guys starting out and am glad to do so.  That is my personal version of AA.  It was a free choice on my part to try to help these three guys out, instead of going with some larger company at a cheaper price who would send illegals in my office.

Does that make sense at all?    That is what i meant by AA.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 10:32:33 AM
I meant as far as personally in my decisions.  Example,  we needed a new cleaning service at the office.  I interviewed a few people and one was a tiny company started by three young black guys starting out.  They are all about 23 y/o.  Really nice guys.  They are little higher priced than the others, but I know the others would send illegal mexicans in my office and I wanted to give these guys a try. 

I went with these three young guys starting out and am glad to do so.  That is my personal version of AA.  It was a free choice on my part to try to help these three guys out, instead of going with some larger company at a cheaper price who would send illegals in my office.

Does that make sense at all?    That is what i meant by AA.

Oh that makes all the sense in the world. I ment AA as some kind of legal binding obligation to hire blacks based soley on being black. But you looked at the bigger picture when you practiced your form of AA.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 10:39:34 AM
Oh that makes all the sense in the world. I ment AA as some kind of legal binding obligation to hire blacks based soley on being black. But you looked at the bigger picture when you practiced your form of AA.

No kidding.  I really respect these youg guys for doing a hard job and hustling like they do, legally. 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2009, 10:40:33 AM
No samson.  There is a legal preference for the government to award minority owned companies contracts.  This clearly falls under the gov's affirmative action policies.  If your talking total #s, I'm sure more contracts go to non-minorities based upon #s alone but in a bidding situation, preference automatically goes to minorities (perhaps unless the contract quotas are met).  I know this for certain as it has affected several medical groups and occupational health groups hired by the government.

No Shooter you are DEAD WRONG...There are efforts to give contracts by the government to Black and Hispanic companies, but they are small contracts to small companies to pacify. You will NOT find the large lucrative contracts being doled out regardless of the size of the Black or Hispanic company or its experience. These government infrastructure building, education, construction etc contracts ALWAYS end up in the hands of white companies, because these same white companies are often in bed with government officials on the local, state and federal level.. I am not being racist just REAL.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2009, 11:27:40 AM
I do have a problem with it. Its like spoon feeding minorities. For minorities to be looked at as equals we need to be treated as equals. People dont understand that slavery was only 150 years ago, (and whites had 400 years to establish their systems, and got mega rich because they had no labor overhead) and it was legislation passed for us to legaly be looked at as equals. From 64 till now, Minorities have come a long way in a short time. I really think AA is a crutch.

What legislation was passed to have Blacks or Hispanics looked upon as EQUALS??? There is no such thing. Slavery did not end in america with the civil war it continued right into the 20th century and to ensure Blacks did not rise whites created Jim Crow laws to keep Blacks unemployed, kept from getting or creating a business, land, farms etc and created a HATEFUL sentiment amongst whites which is still prevalent to this day. The american constitution still states that Blacks are 3/5 of a person...THAT WAS NEVER REMOVED!!!! So Blacks in particular are still looked upon as less than whites and you can see that attitude in america and clearly on this board (of all places). So far as Blacks and Hispanics coming a long way...in all honesty they have gone backward. with integration the Black communities were destroyed and the Black school system, businesses  churches which employed Black teachers, principals, businessmen etc was dismantled and whites put in charge and Black principals and teachers were left unemployed and Black businesses failed nationwide and have never been able to recover. So far as AA goes...white females have been the greatest beneficiary of AA as they were practically UNEMPLOYABLE until they joined the civil rights marches with Blacks. Once they gained their rights and could sue for discrimination they moved on and thought nothing of the Blacks who made it possible for them to advance and get jobs(. Blacks continued to fight discrimination, fight banks non-lending practices, fight educational institutions, fight real estate practices, fight for jobs etc etc. SO WHAT HAS REALLY CHANGED?????
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 25, 2009, 11:29:36 AM
Since, you hate white people so much, why dont you move someone else?

Who said I hate white people????...I hate what whites do...BIG DIFFERENCE.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 11:33:46 AM
What legislation was passed to have Blacks or Hispanics looked upon as EQUALS??? There is no such thing. Slavery did not end in america with the civil war it continued right into the 20th century and to ensure Blacks did not rise whites created Jim Crow laws to keep Blacks unemployed, kept from getting or creating a business, land, farms etc and created a HATEFUL sentiment amongst whites which is still prevalent to this day. The american constitution still states that Blacks are 3/5 of a person...THAT WAS NEVER REMOVED!!!! So Blacks in particular are still looked upon as less than whites and you can see that attitude in america and clearly on this board (of all places). So far as Blacks and Hispanics coming a long way...in all honesty they have gone backward. with integration the Black communities were destroyed and the Black school system, businesses  churches which employed Black teachers, principals, businessmen etc was dismantled and whites put in charge and Black principals and teachers were left unemployed and Black businesses failed nationwide and have never been able to recover. So far as AA goes...white females have been the greatest beneficiary of AA as they were practically UNEMPLOYABLE until they joined the civil rights marches with Blacks. Once they gained their rights and could sue for discrimination they moved on and thought nothing of the Blacks who made it possible for them to advance and get jobs(. Blacks continued to fight discrimination, fight banks non-lending practices, fight educational institutions, fight real estate practices, fight for jobs etc etc. SO WHAT HAS REALLY CHANGED?????

Civil rights act. That was Legislation to end the systematic and lawful discrimination. Im not saying the legislation changed everyones mind, im saying it made it illegal to discriminate for those reasons. And we have made it far from 1950s. How cant you see that?
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 11:35:57 AM
Samson - you may not want to hear this, but you still speak as a slave yourself.  

The reality is that African Americans are only going to succeed by going into their own businesses and not relying on anyone else for "jobs"  etc.

Shit, after law school, I was unemployed for almost a year and worked in Gold's Gym , Bally's, etc.  It sucked.  

Do you really think a law firm in NYC named Diamond, Goldberg, Silverman, & Hochberg wants a italo-american vinny boom-bats in their office?????

How about a firm named  Johnson, Smith, Brown, and White?????

No difference at all!

I was bitter for awhile over this situation like you are.

I realized this early on and went in business for myself, screw everyone else.  For the first few years, things sucked!  I did not make much, but kept going.

Now, 6 years later, I have clients, cash flow, another business, freedom, and call my own shots on my dime.

I would not work for corporate america regardless of the salary.  I value my freedom, not security of a cushy jon in a poltically correct corrupt pc environment with phonies and backstabbers.

Do yourself a favor, pursue your dreams and dont wait on anyone to give you what you think you are entitled to.    
 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 25, 2009, 11:47:20 AM
Samson, I cannot speak on large vs small contracts but there is definitely preference given to minority owned companies in general.  I have seen it first hand in the medical field.  In the cases I refer to, the companies employed less than 100 people so they are relatively small.  There was another contract outside of medical as well but I don't know how many people were employed and what the specific thought process of choosing that minority owned company (perhaps they bid lower, I don't know).

Yes Hugo, there is a gov mandate on preferentially rewarding minority company owners with contracts.  It happened to two contracts for medical service groups and I have heard of other cases as well in the industry.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 25, 2009, 11:49:01 AM
I am 100% with mal on this one.  AA action needs to be repealed for many reasons.

333386, same here...if I see someone hustling and they are from a disadvantaged backround or perhaps a minority, I'd probably give them the chance over someone else too.  I suppose in a way you root for that person (or group)...but they must perform, as it affects your bottom line!
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
I am 100% with mal on this one.  AA action needs to be repealed for many reasons.

333386, same here...if I see someone hustling and they are from a disadvantaged backround or perhaps a minority, I'd probably give them the chance over someone else too.  I suppose in a way you root for that person (or group)...but they must perform, as it affects your bottom line!

I feel bad for a guy like Samson.  He is held back by his own hatred.  If he just took that energy and channeled it into somwething positive, he would not have to worry about white/black etc.

My life changed the minuted I accepted reality and made decisions on that premise, not what i thought things "should be."



   
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 25, 2009, 12:31:43 PM
No doubt.

Like you, I like the freedom to make decisions like that.  Treat everyone equal but if you want to be benevolent (ie give to charity, support a cause, give an opportunity to someone who is a hard worker but lags in an area) than its your decision to do so.  I hate when the gov decides these things for us.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: George Whorewell on March 25, 2009, 12:46:55 PM
Hey Samson, maybe its because the blacks and Spanish decided to invest all of their money in gangster rap, taco stands, chicken and waffle houses and nail salons? Since you're obviously mentally deficient and can only regurgitate stereotypes, how do you feel about those?

You guys can have your piece of shit nothing businesses. We'll handle the banks and multinational corporations. Thanks! ::)
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 12:48:54 PM
Hey Samson, maybe its because the blacks and Spanish decided to invest all of their money in gangster rap, taco stands, chicken and waffle houses and nail salons? Since you're obviously mentally deficient and can only regurgitate stereotypes, how do you feel about those?

You guys can have your piece of shit nothing businesses. We'll handle the banks and multinational corporations. Thanks! ::)

Really...you are really dumb arent you.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 12:50:16 PM
No doubt.

Like you, I like the freedom to make decisions like that.  Treat everyone equal but if you want to be benevolent (ie give to charity, support a cause, give an opportunity to someone who is a hard worker but lags in an area) than its your decision to do so.  I hate when the gov decides these things for us.

I dont need the government to stand over me to tell me it is the right thing to do. 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: George Whorewell on March 25, 2009, 12:52:57 PM
 ::) I'm dumb but this fucktard Samson makes racist and stereotypical comments in practically every thread and you say nothing?

I wrote that to make a point dumbass. Try reading the post again slowly.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 12:53:57 PM
::) I'm dumb but this fucktard Samson makes racist and stereotypical comments in practically every thread and you say nothing?

I wrote that to make a point dumbass. Try reading the post again slowly.

Dropping down to Samsons' level does not do yourself any good.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 12:54:10 PM
::) I'm dumb but this fucktard Samson makes racist and stereotypical comments in practically every thread and you say nothing?

I wrote that to make a point dumbass. Try reading the post again slowly.
You read the thread. I addressed Samson already re: AA...
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 12:56:25 PM
You read the thread. I addressed Samson already re: AA...

Check out xnxx.  Plenty of good stuff over there for you.     
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 12:59:26 PM
Check out xnxx.  Plenty of good stuff over there for you.     

Thick broads?
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: BM OUT on March 25, 2009, 01:07:23 PM
If they want to "shop black" thats fine.This is America,do what you want,support who you want.Just like I prefer to live in a white neighborhood and hang out with whites,send my son to a school that 98% white and .5% black.I put a hardcore gym in my house so I can train with whites only and not be around blacks.Everyone should do what they want as long as your not bothering the next guy.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 01:10:26 PM
If they want to "shop black" thats fine.This is America,do what you want,support who you want.Just like I prefer to live in a white neighborhood and hang out with whites,send my son to a school that 98% white and .5% black.I put a hardcore gym in my house so I can train with whites only and not be around blacks.Everyone should do what they want as long as your not bothering the next guy.

Lol this is America...you are quite the racist one arent you
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
Lol this is America...you are quite the racist one arent you

Who has time for all these bad feelings? 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
Who has time for all these bad feelings? 

I dont know. I love everyone.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 01:54:54 PM
I dont know. I love everyone.

Our country needs to stop focusing on racial issues and focus on more important things instrad.  There is nothing good coming out of constant "discussions" about race.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 01:56:27 PM
Our country needs to stop focusing on racial issues and focus on more important things instrad.  There is nothing good coming out of constant "discussions" about race.

Right...if someone dosent like you because your whatever race...fuck em. We need to get out this money shit right
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2009, 02:01:09 PM
Right...if someone dosent like you because your whatever race...fuck em. We need to get out this money shit right

I have rarely seen a discission on "race" turn out good.

IMHO:

1.  Most people want a job or employment for food and living
2.  Most want to be left alone by the govt. 
3.  Most want to be self sufficient
4.  most want to feel a sense of dignity and respect

We should focus on how to make it possible for most people to achieve these things, not the constant agitation and finger pointing by race.   
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 25, 2009, 02:02:47 PM
Because as we've seen with our idiot retard SAMSON....its a business. Racism is a business. What does Jesse do? What does that idiot sharpton do, what do they put on their Tax returns. I don't care if ur purple, can u do ur job and not screw up? Can u act like a human being instead of an animal? Race doesn't matter, behaivor does.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 25, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
Black guy...fucking hero. Oh and Samson as much as it may kill u...I'm more this guys' "brother" regardless of color, then u are. Get over urself.

In the early morning darkness of Dec. 26, 1944, a large force of German soldiers attacked a small garrison of American troops holding the tiny mountain village of Sommocolonia, Italy, high in the Upper Apennines in the north central part of the country.

The fighting was fierce, and by daylight the 400 Germans, outnumbering the Americans 6 to 1, had the village surrounded and were moving in fast.

First Lt. John R. Fox, 26, of Cincinnatti, Ohio, and a handful of his men watched in alarm from their post on the second floor of an old house as the Germans swarmed up the streets, lobbing grenades everywhere.

Fox, a forward observer with the 366th Infantry Regiment, an all-black unit out of Fort Devens reactivated for World War II, was directing American artillery fire into the area to slow the enemy advance, and he knew the village was all but lost.

As the Germans closed in, Fox spoke calmly by telephone to the Fire Direction Center, ordering up artillery missions from the distant guns.

‘That last round was just where I wanted it,, the young lieutenant reported. “Bring it in 60 yards more.”

The receiving operator thought Fox was mistaken - the order would train the full fire of up to 75 heavy caliber artillery guns directly on Fox’s position.

Fox confirmed the order: “There’s more of them than there is of us.”

Seconds later the bombardment began. And within minutes, hundreds of shells had hit the target. each one powerful enough to blast the house and its occupants into oblivion.

There was no chance that Fox and his men would survive.

The fighting continued from door to door for the next several hours as the few Americans left tried valiantly to stop the onslaught, but by mid-afternoon the village had fallen.

That night the Americans counted their casualties: Forty-three of 60 men in the garrison were dead. The other 17 had managed a miraculous escape, slipping out of the village from undetected hiding places in the darkness.

Sommocolonia was retaken four days later, and in the rubble the bodies of Fox and his men were found among the bodies of the enemy. The dead had been killed in the shelling that Fox had brought down.

For that act of heroism, Fox was certain to be awarded a medal for valor, a Silver Star at least.

But it didn’t happen. Not for almost 38 years.

Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: BM OUT on March 25, 2009, 02:27:50 PM
Lol this is America...you are quite the racist one arent you

Why is wanting to hang out with my own, racist?Next time your at work or school,look around the cafateria.See who sits with whom.Blacks with blacks,whites with whites,latinos with latinos.Christ,even in jail they only associate with their respective groups.I worked as a corrections officer for a few years,it was the most seperate atmosphere I have ever seen and this was in a tiny little space.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 02:34:12 PM
Why is wanting to hang out with my own, racist?Next time your at work or school,look around the cafateria.See who sits with whom.Blacks with blacks,whites with whites,latinos with latinos.Christ,even in jail they only associate with their respective groups.I worked as a corrections officer for a few years,it was the most seperate atmosphere I have ever seen and this was in a tiny little space.

Nothin man. You got it. ::)
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: tu_holmes on March 25, 2009, 02:36:18 PM
I have rarely seen a discission on "race" turn out good.

IMHO:

1.  Most people want a job or employment for food and living
2.  Most want to be left alone by the govt. 
3.  Most want to be self sufficient
4.  most want to feel a sense of dignity and respect

We should focus on how to make it possible for most people to achieve these things, not the constant agitation and finger pointing by race.  

Agreed... Sometimes you make sense. :D
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 02:37:41 PM
Black guy...fucking hero. Oh and Samson as much as it may kill u...I'm more this guys' "brother" regardless of color, then u are. Get over urself.

In the early morning darkness of Dec. 26, 1944, a large force of German soldiers attacked a small garrison of American troops holding the tiny mountain village of Sommocolonia, Italy, high in the Upper Apennines in the north central part of the country.

The fighting was fierce, and by daylight the 400 Germans, outnumbering the Americans 6 to 1, had the village surrounded and were moving in fast.

First Lt. John R. Fox, 26, of Cincinnatti, Ohio, and a handful of his men watched in alarm from their post on the second floor of an old house as the Germans swarmed up the streets, lobbing grenades everywhere.

Fox, a forward observer with the 366th Infantry Regiment, an all-black unit out of Fort Devens reactivated for World War II, was directing American artillery fire into the area to slow the enemy advance, and he knew the village was all but lost.

As the Germans closed in, Fox spoke calmly by telephone to the Fire Direction Center, ordering up artillery missions from the distant guns.

‘That last round was just where I wanted it,, the young lieutenant reported. “Bring it in 60 yards more.”

The receiving operator thought Fox was mistaken - the order would train the full fire of up to 75 heavy caliber artillery guns directly on Fox’s position.

Fox confirmed the order: “There’s more of them than there is of us.”

Seconds later the bombardment began. And within minutes, hundreds of shells had hit the target. each one powerful enough to blast the house and its occupants into oblivion.

There was no chance that Fox and his men would survive.

The fighting continued from door to door for the next several hours as the few Americans left tried valiantly to stop the onslaught, but by mid-afternoon the village had fallen.

That night the Americans counted their casualties: Forty-three of 60 men in the garrison were dead. The other 17 had managed a miraculous escape, slipping out of the village from undetected hiding places in the darkness.

Sommocolonia was retaken four days later, and in the rubble the bodies of Fox and his men were found among the bodies of the enemy. The dead had been killed in the shelling that Fox had brought down.

For that act of heroism, Fox was certain to be awarded a medal for valor, a Silver Star at least.

But it didn’t happen. Not for almost 38 years.



Damn bro.. I have never served but that was a hell of a story. Fuck that shit had me emotional for a bit. Good story.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2009, 04:29:50 PM
I really dint like revrend jackson or sharpton. I wrote them both...but i got no response.  :(   I asked them why they bring attention like Imus and Michaels (yeah it was a while ago) which aren't problems and are protected under the 1st amendment, but they dont say anything about public school funding dispairties amongst schools within the same district. In La i went to school at 2 Jr high schools. One black and one white. The black school had 1 book for every 2 students...basically was way under funded and didn't have any resources. the white middle school had 2 books per student, one for school and one for home...and a whole lot more.

Any i wrote them and gave them stats and budget copies etc...i got no response, i guess the story wasn't sexy enough...

I was thinking of starting my own organization that would address those issues. It would be called BUILT...aptly named ofr this website. ;D. Care to be a member? ;)
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 25, 2009, 04:42:29 PM
I was thinking of starting my own organization that would address those issues. It would be called BUILT...aptly named ofr this website. ;D. Care to be a member? ;)

Serious? Hell yeah ill join
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: w8tlftr on March 25, 2009, 04:57:22 PM
Is she racist or supporting her neighborhood and own?

jews do this all the time...is it racist with them???

Yes.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Cap on March 25, 2009, 05:29:37 PM
When they mean black owned do they mean the store being black owned or the products being made by black companies?  Wouldn't this eliminate car sales?
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2009, 05:40:15 PM
Serious? Hell yeah ill join

Hell yeah, I'm serious. I'm tired of the Jesses the Al's hijacking headlines and not focusing on real issues. It's like they are still stuck in 1968. Ask them do they drive anything from 1968? Hell no. I've been mulling this over and over in my mind. I'm tired of black folks thinking that Obama is going to lead them to the promise land. I'm tire of brothas not acting like brothas (well more like Kane and Abel) And I would dedicate my life to this...I just don't know where to start, how to start.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 05:33:12 AM
Hell yeah, I'm serious. I'm tired of the Jesses the Al's hijacking headlines and not focusing on real issues. It's like they are still stuck in 1968. Ask them do they drive anything from 1968? Hell no. I've been mulling this over and over in my mind. I'm tired of black folks thinking that Obama is going to lead them to the promise land. I'm tire of brothas not acting like brothas (well more like Kane and Abel) And I would dedicate my life to this...I just don't know where to start, how to start.

That is why Jesse & Rev. are called "poverty pimps." 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 26, 2009, 07:54:12 AM
I don't think more 'conversations on race' will be of benefit.  Holder was wrong IMO.  People like Jackson and Sharpton are stuck in 1968.  I think more racial debates have the potential to highlight differences and fuel angers.  Some of the maladaptive historical 'black culture' needs to change and adapt (ie Cosby's constructive criticism), family most importantly. Racism must be delt with swiftly and laws must ensure equal opportunity for all (including equal funding for schools, equal pay for teachers, grants for education, etc). 
Britian has done it fairly well...the gov fully acknowledged the evils of slavery and discrimination and uphold strict laws against these practices but the people aren't put into groups as much as in the US and seem to blend better.  They have more of a similar culture, dress, speech, the way they act and interact.  Thats the key IMO.  The problem in Britian is the Muslim and Eastern European immigrants that come there for the national benefits. 

By continuing to highlight differences, we keep people apart.  We must strive for a colorblind society.

I'm somewhat sick of hearing about race these days, perhaps because I've been brought up to not think in a racist manner and while history is important, it is the past.  Just like that white lady who asked the president about race in the address this week.  Dumb question and I think the president handled it extremely well.  I've always had black friends and friends of non-european heritage.  I don't have time or energy for backward people on any side.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Nordic Superman on March 26, 2009, 07:59:00 AM
SAMSON123, you're missing your own retarded hypocrisy.

If it's OK for a black women to attempt to shop black only, then based on that logic it's NOT racist for a white government to be bias towards white businesses.

You're a racist low life :D
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: BM OUT on March 26, 2009, 11:57:58 AM
I don't think more 'conversations on race' will be of benefit.  Holder was wrong IMO.  People like Jackson and Sharpton are stuck in 1968.  I think more racial debates have the potential to highlight differences and fuel angers.  Some of the maladaptive historical 'black culture' needs to change and adapt (ie Cosby's constructive criticism), family most importantly. Racism must be delt with swiftly and laws must ensure equal opportunity for all (including equal funding for schools, equal pay for teachers, grants for education, etc). 
Britian has done it fairly well...the gov fully acknowledged the evils of slavery and discrimination and uphold strict laws against these practices but the people aren't put into groups as much as in the US and seem to blend better.  They have more of a similar culture, dress, speech, the way they act and interact.  Thats the key IMO.  The problem in Britian is the Muslim and Eastern European immigrants that come there for the national benefits. 

By continuing to highlight differences, we keep people apart.  We must strive for a colorblind society.

I'm somewhat sick of hearing about race these days, perhaps because I've been brought up to not think in a racist manner and while history is important, it is the past.  Just like that white lady who asked the president about race in the address this week.  Dumb question and I think the president handled it extremely well.  I've always had black friends and friends of non-european heritage.  I don't have time or energy for backward people on any side.

The very day he was inaugerated,Obama let an ignorant,black preacher to insult whites right from the dias.He said NOTHING!That was it for me,its obvious what he stands for.Then when little Robert Reich said "whites shouldnt get the jobs from the stimulous" and Obama said NOTHING,prooved my point.He HATES whites!He sat in a church and listened to a raving racist for twenty years and said NOTHING.He never left.He believed EVERY word.So,forget the color blind crap.Its us[whites] against them.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 26, 2009, 11:59:28 AM
The very day he was inaugerated,Obama let an ignorant,black preacher to insult whites right from the dias.He said NOTHING!That was it for me,its obvious what he stands for.Then when little Robert Reich said "whites shouldnt get the jobs from the stimulous" and Obama said NOTHING,prooved my point.He HATES whites!He sat in a church and listened to a raving racist for twenty years and said NOTHING.He never left.He believed EVERY word.So,forget the color blind crap.Its us[whites] against them.


lol...youre an angry fucker. And no he dosent hate whites. You are an idiot
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 12:01:17 PM

lol...youre an angry fucker. And no he dosent hate whites. You are an idiot

I think he hates taxpayers of all races.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: BM OUT on March 26, 2009, 12:01:58 PM

lol...youre an angry fucker. And no he dosent hate whites. You are an idiot

Really?In his book he blames a lot of the worlds ills on "white mans greed".Id say thats pretty hatefull.Did he say ANYTHING to lOwery for insulting whites?Nope,nothing.Him and his huge jawed wife HATE whites.Thats why they loved sitting in a racist church for twenty years.Oh,thats right,my bad,only whites can hate.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 12:07:43 PM
Really?In his book he blames a lot of the worlds ills on "white mans greed".Id say thats pretty hatefull.Did he say ANYTHING to lOwery for insulting whites?Nope,nothing.Him and his huge jawed wife HATE whites.Thats why they loved sitting in a racist church for twenty years.Oh,thats right,my bad,only whites can hate.

This is what Obama wants, dont do it. 

By focusing on garbage issues, we take away focus on the important issues that are gonig on like looting the taxpayer.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 26, 2009, 12:18:56 PM
Really?In his book he blames a lot of the worlds ills on "white mans greed".Id say thats pretty hatefull.Did he say ANYTHING to lOwery for insulting whites?Nope,nothing.Him and his huge jawed wife HATE whites.Thats why they loved sitting in a racist church for twenty years.Oh,thats right,my bad,only whites can hate.
Ok about the book..Quote please, I want to see where he says the world ills are to blame on the white mans greed.

And then Lowery saying the whites will get right. Im guessing if it was wrong, Obama would have jumped up in the middle of the prayer and say something about it. Whites have done a lot of wrong to blacks in this country, and he said it..Was it bad taste..yes at the time it was..i think its minor.

The jaw wife thing...(grow up)

The church thing..Listen to the whole clip...he was quoting someone...a white guy. look it up.

I know i cant erase ______(insert age) of racist teachings youve experience .But racism is dumb as shit..and if you are racist us vs them ..you are dumb
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 01:21:53 PM
Ok about the book..Quote please, I want to see where he says the world ills are to blame on the white mans greed.

And then Lowery saying the whites will get right. Im guessing if it was wrong, Obama would have jumped up in the middle of the prayer and say something about it. Whites have done a lot of wrong to blacks in this country, and he said it..Was it bad taste..yes at the time it was..i think its minor.

The jaw wife thing...(grow up)

The church thing..Listen to the whole clip...he was quoting someone...a white guy. look it up.

I know i cant erase ______(insert age) of racist teachings youve experience .But racism is dumb as shit..and if you are racist us vs them ..you are dumb

Like I say, racism is waste of time and government loves people fighting amongst themselves rather than focus on the looting and raping of the taxpayer that is going on.. 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 26, 2009, 01:28:00 PM
Like I say, racism is waste of time and government loves people fighting amongst themselves rather than focus on the looting and raping of the taxpayer that is going on.. 

Right. So lets drop it...But 3333 what is the alternative plan to the Stim package from obama.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 01:35:42 PM
Right. So lets drop it...But 3333 what is the alternative plan to the Stim package from obama.

Go listen to Peter Schiff's interviews on the youtube channel. 

Basically, he says that our problem is that we have too much credit and abused it, not too little.  He says we consume too much and do not produce enough.  He says we spend too much already and that is our problem.

It it were me, I would cut govt spending to the bone,  Give people tax breaks to buy American cars, cut capital gains taxes, cut payroll taxes, cut credit card interest, give people tax breaks to buy foreclosed properties or those that are foreclosing, cut off welfare to illegal aliens, amongst other things.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: BM OUT on March 26, 2009, 01:52:56 PM
Ok about the book..Quote please, I want to see where he says the world ills are to blame on the white mans greed.

And then Lowery saying the whites will get right. Im guessing if it was wrong, Obama would have jumped up in the middle of the prayer and say something about it. Whites have done a lot of wrong to blacks in this country, and he said it..Was it bad taste..yes at the time it was..i think its minor.

The jaw wife thing...(grow up)

The church thing..Listen to the whole clip...he was quoting someone...a white guy. look it up.

I know i cant erase ______(insert age) of racist teachings youve experience .But racism is dumb as shit..and if you are racist us vs them ..you are dumb



Rev.Wright spewed that crap in more then ONE sermon.Obamas pal little "white" punk Flager was cut from the same cloth.

Lastly,Obama won the white house,dems control everything.They dont like tax cuts,ok,no tax cuts.However,can we eliminate stupid ideas like cap and trade that will cause us to pay an extra 1300 a year in utlities?Can we eliminate card check which will destroy buisines and end the secret ballot?Can we have SOME control of the spending so we dont have a 10 trillion dollar deficit in ten years?Can we stop with the stupid forcing of kids to volunteer?Jesus,I get it,they won,but does EVERY single left wing kooky idea have to be rammed down our throat no matter what the cost?How is giving us an extra 1300 a year in utilitiy bills growing the economy.It will KILL the economy.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 26, 2009, 01:56:47 PM
I am at odds with 90% of what Pelosi and the administration is doing.  I agree more with 333386, cut gov spending and give more money back to people in taxes so they can spend.  Once the recession is over, we can talk about investments in energy and healthcare reform.  The gov should regulate and look for injustices but not run everything.  The liberal democrats want to use government to control more of the production, distribution and oversight of goods, services, products and programs.
I am for limited but necessary government.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
Right. So lets drop it...But 3333 what is the alternative plan to the Stim package from obama.



Check out this page.  Listen to some of these interviews.  Schiff presents the topic in a very easy to understand manner.

Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 26, 2009, 02:03:22 PM


Check out this page.  Listen to some of these interviews.  Schiff presents the topic in a very easy to understand manner.


thanks
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 02:10:25 PM
thanks

His 3/23/2009 interview about home prices/renting is excellent!    This is better listening and education than you will get anywhere on TV as far as real estate goes. 

Definately listen to this stuff.  Part 1 & 2 is great work. 


Paul/Schiff 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: muscleforlife on March 26, 2009, 02:38:18 PM


Check out this page.  Listen to some of these interviews.  Schiff presents the topic in a very easy to understand manner.


I saw peter schiff on Morning Joe.  Telling about the collapse of the economy in 2002.  Pundits called him crazy.

He also believes that the way out of this mess is not to spend but to save. Since spending and borrowing is one of the things that got us where we are now.
Sandra
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 26, 2009, 02:44:38 PM
I saw peter schiff on Morning Joe.  Telling about the collapse of the economy in 2002.  Pundits called him crazy.

He also believes that the way out of this mess is not to spend but to save. Since spending and borrowing is one of the things that got us where we are now.
Sandra

He presents the topics in a very easy to understand manner that  make perect sense. 

His presentation about home prices vs renting is excellent work.

 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 26, 2009, 03:23:21 PM
He presents the topics in a very easy to understand manner that  make perect sense. 

His presentation about home prices vs renting is excellent work.

 


Thank you. Im being informed. Im listening to him right now on the alex jones show
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 26, 2009, 04:32:19 PM
Ok, I'll have to check this out as well.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 26, 2009, 04:45:55 PM
I watched two segments.  In the 3/25 video, he makes a lot of sense.  I like his approach...very factual/analytical rather than the partisan ranting.  Though he criticizes the recent borrowing and spending proposals, he gives good reasons.  Some of his comments were similar to what I have heard from Ron Paul on CSPAN.

The Chinese coming out saying they don't trust the dollar as the standard anymore is concerning.  I think this massive mounting debt and the massive printing of money will devaluate our currency and lead to more nations questioning the dollar as the common backer of monies.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 26, 2009, 05:01:12 PM
I watched two segments.  In the 3/25 video, he makes a lot of sense.  I like his approach...very factual/analytical rather than the partisan ranting.  Though he criticizes the recent borrowing and spending proposals, he gives good reasons.  Some of his comments were similar to what I have heard from Ron Paul on CSPAN.

The Chinese coming out saying they don't trust the dollar as the standard anymore is concerning.  I think this massive mounting debt and the massive printing of money will devaluate our currency and lead to more nations questioning the dollar as the common backer of monies.

Very insightful
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 26, 2009, 05:20:35 PM
SAMSON123, you're missing your own retarded hypocrisy.

If it's OK for a black women to attempt to shop black only, then based on that logic it's NOT racist for a white government to be bias towards white businesses.

You're a racist low life :D

Is the government ALL WHITE???...last time I checked it was not
Are the whites in government collecting taxes from the Asian, Black and Hispanic population in america? yes they are
Maybe all Blacks, Asians and Hispanics should stop having taxes removed from their salaries, stop buying white produced products (what few there are) Stop patronizing white businesses since they are so DESPISED BY WHITES (like you)...


Shopping to patronize your own is NOT racism (you are trying to make it such) it is business. Your attitude is that you are aware that much white business is carried out in america by Blacks, Asians and Hispanics.... losing any one of these populations let alone all of them would END WHITE BUSINESS IN AMERICA.

WATCH HOW FAST WHITES WOULD COME BEGGING THESE POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE  TO COME BACK...Did not Martin Luther King prove that already.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Nordic Superman on March 27, 2009, 03:37:47 AM
Is the government ALL WHITE???...last time I checked it was not
Are the whites in government collecting taxes from the Asian, Black and Hispanic population in america? yes they are
Maybe all Blacks, Asians and Hispanics should stop having taxes removed from their salaries, stop buying white produced products (what few there are) Stop patronizing white businesses since they are so DESPISED BY WHITES (like you)...


Shopping to patronize your own is NOT racism (you are trying to make it such) it is business. Your attitude is that you are aware that much white business is carried out in america by Blacks, Asians and Hispanics.... losing any one of these populations let alone all of them would END WHITE BUSINESS IN AMERICA.

WATCH HOW FAST WHITES WOULD COME BEGGING THESE POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE  TO COME BACK...Did not Martin Luther King prove that already.

Another post showing complete lack of understand and any sign tangible intelligence. Just how do you do it?!?! :D

The governments of most Western nations are predominantly white; so using YOUR OWN logic, for them to given beneficial treatment TO THEIR OWN RACE would not be racist, hell I'd even go as to far as say you endorse this mentality looking at your statements.

These governments control a populations who's demographics are majority white - meaning the government (via taxation & commerce) is funded by whites. Non-whites usually make up a disproportionate number of welfare claimants; thus meaning their input as a tax provider is also disproportionately low in comparison.

The above assertions by the way are based on FACTUAL EVIDENCE.

Now my opinion would be that I, a white man, choosing to do business with, eating at and buying from, white-only establishments is racist. I would be making a conscious decision to chose peoples of my own race over that over other races. Also... to come to the conclusion of choosing white establishments would also contain a thought process of tribalism based upon racism.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 27, 2009, 06:37:57 AM
Samson, you said something important "buying from one of your own". 
Thats exactly the attitudes we need to break in the US.  Being American is being one of your own.  We should get away from grouping people based on skin color or historical heritage.  Once people see themselves as Americans first and their historical backrounds second, we will be a lot farther and better off in this country.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 27, 2009, 08:07:36 AM
Samson, you said something important "buying from one of your own". 
Thats exactly the attitudes we need to break in the US.  Being American is being one of your own.  We should get away from grouping people based on skin color or historical heritage.  Once people see themselves as Americans first and their historical backrounds second, we will be a lot farther and better off in this country.
Thats how i feel. We are Americans first..black white green yellow. We are AMERICANS...Fuck  this shit makes me melt faster than ice cream in arizona.

Race this race that, white this, black that, us them..GROW THE FUCK UP. God damn. Bitch ass people...want excuses..
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 27, 2009, 08:08:20 AM
Thats how i feel. We are Americans first..black white green yellow. We are AMERICANS...Fuck  this shit makes me melt faster than ice cream in arizona.

Race this race that, white this, black that, us them..GROW THE FUCK UP. God damn. Bitch ass people...want excuses..

It is so pointless. 
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 27, 2009, 08:12:19 AM
It is so pointless. 
I really appreciate the reference to that economist. He was very good and had good ideas. Maybe he should have been on Clintons Bushs and Obamas team. Get Timmy out of there.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 27, 2009, 08:14:16 AM
I really appreciate the reference to that economist. He was very good and had good ideas. Maybe he should have been on Clintons Bushs and Obamas team. Get Timmy out of there.

His 3/23/2009 interview from Lew Rockwell about the cost of housing and college is some of the best I have heard.   
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 27, 2009, 08:16:17 AM
His 3/23/2009 interview from Lew Rockwell about the cost of housing and college is some of the best I have heard.   

Right.. He said when people cant afford college they will be forced to lower the cost.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: wild willie on March 27, 2009, 08:19:23 AM
God damn it guys....... we are all in this together...... black, white, chinese, spanish...... damn it...... it doesn't matter what your back ground is. We have serious problems in this fine land of ours. We have to get past all the BS and start electing men and women who want to get things turned around.

That being said...... Pelosi, Reid and Nobama ain't gonna cut it........ But for Christ sakes enough of the racist comments. It gets us nowhere....... we were all immigrants @ one time..... let's work together!
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: wild willie on March 27, 2009, 08:23:26 AM
I really appreciate the reference to that economist. He was very good and had good ideas. Maybe he should have been on Clintons Bushs and Obamas team. Get Timmy out of there.
Tiny Tim Needs to pay his taxes before he tells us how to get our shit together......
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Option D on March 27, 2009, 08:28:03 AM
God damn it guys....... we are all in this together...... black, white, chinese, spanish...... damn it...... it doesn't matter what your back ground is. We have serious problems in this fine land of ours. We have to get past all the BS and start electing men and women who want to get things turned around.

That being said...... Pelosi, Reid and Nobama ain't gonna cut it........ But for Christ sakes enough of the racist comments. It gets us nowhere....... we were all immigrants @ one time..... let's work together!

Thats how i feel...some of feel like its us against them. ...THE RACE WAR IS COMING!!!  ::)

Get a life dumbasses.
Title: Re: Shopping Black?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 27, 2009, 08:30:30 AM
Thats how i feel...some of feel like its us against them. ...THE RACE WAR IS COMING!!!  ::)

Get a life dumbasses.

WTF is a purpose behind any "race war"???

The only thing it will do is allow the government to clamp down on everyone and impose more restrictions on our freedom, more taxes, more 1984 like laws, and more jail cells.