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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Topic started by: wild willie on May 08, 2009, 11:16:38 AM
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Can anyone confirm the rumor, that there were girls present backstage, at the 72 Olympia, and they were there to pleasure the bodybuilders? It was suggested that the girls were performing fellatio......any truth to this????
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I believe Ben Weider was part of that contingent. :o
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Can anyone confirm the rumor, that there were girls present backstage, at the 72 Olympia, and they were there to pleasure the bodybuilders? It was suggested that the girls were performing fellatio......any truth to this????
don't see why it would not be....
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Can anyone confirm the rumor, that there were girls present backstage, at the 72 Olympia, and they were there to pleasure the bodybuilders? It was suggested that the girls were performing fellatio......any truth to this????
Arnold said he made that up in a issue of Oui magazine to bring attention to bodybuilding. But then Arnold has said on Oprah that he doesn't recall such an interview during his run for governor.
In any case, it's a false story Arnold made up.
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Arnold said he made that up in a issue of Oui magazine to bring attention to bodybuilding. But then Arnold has said on Oprah that he doesn't recall such an interview during his run for governor.
In any case, it's a false story Arnold made up.
good story by Arnold.....the fake ones are always the best ones
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good story by Arnold.....the fake ones are always the best ones
yeah he is a regular Michael Crichton or Mother Goose, even
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just a cover for the truth that it was Ben Weider and Oscar State performing fellatio on Arnold, thats why Arnold got 1st and Sergio 2nd ::)
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I know Arnold was afraid of girls with high self-esteem...the ones who would not fall for his stupid shit...of which there was aplenty
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I know Arnold was afraid of girls with high self-esteem...the ones who would not fall for his stupid shit...of which there was aplenty
and how exactly do you know this??????
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wow!!
such disrespect for Arnold......
why do you have such a problem with the great one????
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I know Arnold was afraid of girls with high self-esteem...the ones who would not fall for his stupid shit...of which there was aplenty
I believe that, not necessarily afraid but would avoid those who were too smart for his BS and constant fiction.
wow!!
such disrespect for Arnold......
why do you have such a problem with the great one?
Not believing the Arnold BS machine for a minute hardly constitutes disrespect for someone who is himself reknown for disrespecting others.
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I believe that, not necessarily afraid but would avoid those who were too smart for his BS and constant fiction.
Not believing the Arnold BS machine for a minute hardly constitutes disrespect for someone who is himself reknown for disrespecting others.
fair statement.....but why don't we ask people such as Bill Grant and Leon Brown, who personally knew Arnold, what kind of a guy he was. We seem to go off rumors around here. I am sure that there are VERY FEW people on this chat board who knew Arnie and company. FAIR ENOUGH????
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fair statement.....but why don't we ask people such as Bill Grant and Leon Brown, who personally knew Arnold, what kind of a guy he was. We seem to go off rumors around here. I am sure that there are VERY FEW people on this chat board who knew Arnie and company. FAIR ENOUGH????
No need to ask, many of the guys loved him and/or fawned over him in part because he was the best BB at Gold's plus the persona so what would you expect. They wanted to be around the guy plus i think he treated some different from others depending on the situation-Grant for example was never a serious rival and was a fellow regular there and no dummy so no reason to dis him.
But that's only half a loaf, part of the equation. I'm surprised that you aren't aware of this willie!
There are others who would say the exact opposite, because in reality the guy's always been a charmer and a dickhead. Ask Robby Robinson what he thinks after Schwarzie used the n-word on him because Robby justifiably wanted some type of small payment for being in the movie - and this happened in a room full of BBs at a party. Schwarzie got paid something. Or after Schwarzie fondled Robby's wife's boobs at Gold's. Or Mentzer, or Boyer Coe. Or the 15 or so women he harassed including a legitimate reporter trying to interview him.
It's pretty clear to anyone who doesn't see him thru rose-colored glasses that the guy's always been a major bullshitter and asshole. He had to hide it now though. He made up the story about his dad's funeral. And he's completely charming at other times, when he wants to use someone-no surprise.
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He made up the story about his dad's funeral.
So he attended his father's funeral, or his dad didn't pass away didn't during the olympia???
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So he attended his father's funeral, or his dad didn't pass away didn't during the olympia???
I think he attended; in any event it didn't come close to the bald-faced on-cam lie that was said simply for effect.
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pumpster,
All these stories are very well known.....yes, I am aware of all the ladies who claim Arnie fondled them, yes, the story of Robinson's ex wife, believe she was 19 at the time. I might be looking at Arnold through rose colored glasses, but maybe, just maybe, some deadbeats are quick to accuse Arnold of this, that and the other!!!! I know one thing, just as many admire the man as those who are jealous and never got off their duff.......many came up with excuses, mentzer and many others fell by the way side......Arnold made it in life outside bodybuilding......in no way am I saying he was an angel......I am sure he has plenty of skeletons in his closet......but so did mentzer and robinson and waller. IMHO
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I think he attended; in any event it didn't come close to the bald-faced on-cam lie that was said simply for effect.
Arnold's father was very abusive and violent with Arnold and Manfred. Manfred was the apple of his father's eye......Arnold played second fiddle.....therefore Arnold had some resentment towards his father. Not saying it is right to hold a grudge, but you can imagine how someone could have bad feelings toward their father if they were in fact treated this way.......just like Louie, he didn't have a healthy relationship with his dad.
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I am sure he has plenty of skeletons in his closet......but so did mentzer and robinson and waller. IMHO
I haven't seen any evidence of those guys being the dick Schwarzenegger's been actually. To try to mitigate the truth by suggesting that of others is to attempt to draw attention away from the reality that he's always been a big-time charmer and ahole, well beyond the norm.
This is a typical Schwarzenegger story - on July 4th at Venice Beach a few years ago someone on the boards saw Schwarzenegger pull up on a Harely accompanied by a bodyguard on another bike. The fan was friendly, said hello but Schwarzenegger, knowing there was no one around and with nothing to gain from the exchange, didn't even acknowledge the greeting. No surprise.
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bill grant left his kids with arnie, while he worked his shift at united airlines
arnie couldn't have been that bad of a guy or that much of a racist
grant's kids still speak fondly of their time with arnie......hell, arnie would take them to mcdonald's for a meal.....they enjoyed having him as their babysitter
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let's agree to disagree though
because i don't think you like or respect arnie as a person
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I haven't seen any evidence of those guys being the dick Schwarzenegger's been actually. To try to mitigate the truth by suggesting that of others is to attempt to draw attention away from the reality that he's always been a big-time charmer and ahole, well beyond the norm.
This is a typical Schwarzenegger story - on July 4th at Venice Beach a few years ago someone on the boards saw Schwarzenegger pull up on a Harely accompanied by a bodyguard on another bike. The fan was friendly, said hello but Schwarzenegger, knowing there was no one around and with nothing to gain from the exchange, didn't even acknowledge the greeting. No surprise.
go ask don cestone from ironage about arnie......he has known him personally for over 35 years......he has gone to all the cigar nights and has seen arnold around town......arnold was cordial to all people.
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Celebrities are expected to act perfectly. There are times when everyone can be an asshole. A fan catches you off guard and then you're branded as one for life.
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bill grant left his kids with arnie, while he worked his shift at united airlines
arnie couldn't have been that bad of a guy or that much of a racist
grant's kids still speak fondly of their time with arnie......hell, arnie would take them to mcdonald's for a meal.....they enjoyed having him as their babysitter
I have no doubt about this - an ahole charmer decides case-by-case whether to be nice or not, it varies depending on context and individual and what is gained by being friendly.
Another story - i'm backstage at the '76 Universe, i motion my friend to go over to Schwarzie for a pic. He is refused for absolutely no reason. Nothin goin on, no reason for it. Classic Arnold once again, and let me tell you when someone you look up to does something like this it leaves a bad taste for a loooong time. :-X
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Celebrities are expected to act perfectly. There are times when everyone can be an asshole. A fan catches you off guard and then you're branded as one for life.
Epic rationalization. Don't worry, there are many like you. Schwarzie wasn't a celeb when i saw it first-hand, nor is harrassing 15 or more women your typical celeb behavior.
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let's agree to disagree though
because i don't think you like or respect arnie as a person
In that case get it together - don't say we agree to disagree then take a cheap shot lol
Your interpretation is flawed because you see only black or white, whereas in life there are plenty of grays. You don't seem to realize that there are plenty of people in life who are respected and disliked simulaneously. The truth that you don't see because of your fandom is that I ilke alot about him, and abhor other aspects. Reread what i've posted-i said he was both, rather than just good or bad as you interpret him to be. Life's complicated dude.
In short, i have a balanced view, you choose to see only one dimension.
Sorry for the reality check.. :-[
Or as Bill Pearl, one of the most sincere and respected BBs said: "There are givers and takers, Arnold's a taker"...I hardly think that's an attack (except to groupies), it's just reality and hardly an endoresment. ;D
Keep in mind guys, you're big fans...fan is short for fanatic. ;D
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I think it is kinda possible to be both an a-hole and a good guy..depends on the situation..Arnold was good at being different things to different people....and yes I believe Arnold a me-first kind of guy..but the above qualities are what made Arnold the go-getter that he is and that's why he is a governor today and married to a Kennedy.
where are all those guys who were bodybuilding with him?..Arnold had a plan to use people to get to where he is.....He was open about it....and he was good at it..because he had the build, good looks and personality that made everyone want to please him...
We ALL wish we were as lucky
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I think it is kinda possible to be both an a-hole and a good guy..depends on the situation..Arnold was good at being different things to different people....We ALL wish we were as lucky
There you go, in life it's often a mix rather than black and white, one or the other.
Maybe alot of people would like that success, but alot of people wouldn't do it if it required that personality to be honest. And i don't think for a minute it's entirely necessary to be a shit to achieve goals.
Also bear in mind that like a lot of successful people, Schwarzenegger from day one in America had opportunity thrust at him, that required no effort on his part and that had nothing to do with needing a certain type of personality.
Bottom line: protegees in many fields from classic music to football to BB to high tech often begin with opportunities most don't get. Schwarzenegger was one. He had leverage over Weider right away that others didn't, and was afforded opportunities right off the boat due to them. Same thing with real estate-a big part of the equation was having the luxury of advisement from various US and European businessmen, including Joe Gold and Weider, telling him to acquire real estate. Not just about his smarts or persona, which were part of it for sure.
A large part of Schwarzenegger's persona in reality very much mirrors that of the orginal Terminator, before it become "good"-there wasn't a hell of a lot of acting required. ;D
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this thread is useless without pictures
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Arnold is the best there is and ever will be in bodybuilding....he was in a unique circumstance with the Weiders and there will never be any one else like him coming out of bodybuilding who will achieve what he has
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here's your pic nyuk nyuk nyuk.
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here's your pic nyuk nyuk nyuk.
I am sure he banged her afterward
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There you go, in life it's often a mix rather than black and white, one or the other.
Maybe alot of people would like that success, but alot of people wouldn't do it if it required that personality to be honest. And i don't think for a minute it's entirely necessary to be a shit to achieve goals.
Also bear in mind that like a lot of successful people, Schwarzenegger from day one in America had opportunity thrust at him, that required no effort on his part and that had nothing to do with needing a certain type of personality.
Bottom line: protegees in many fields from classic music to football to BB to high tech often begin with opportunities most don't get. Schwarzenegger was one. He had leverage over Weider right away that others didn't, and was afforded opportunities right off the boat due to them. Same thing with real estate-a big part of the equation was having the luxury of advisement from various US and European businessmen, including Joe Gold and Weider, telling him to acquire real estate. Not just about his smarts or persona, which were part of it for sure.
A large part of Schwarzenegger's persona in reality very much mirrors that of the orginal Terminator, before it become "good"-there wasn't a hell of a lot of acting required. ;D
pumpster,
yes.....Arnie was in the right place at the right time.....but many people had those opportunities......Weide r rolled out the red carpet for Draper.....but Dave was kind of in his own little world with a divorce and with Alcohol and recreational drugs.....Arnold had a unique ability to party and not lose track of his goals.....he also wanted to be a success outside bodybuilding......acting lessons learning the real estate biz.......he was multi-dimensional.....had a burning desire to be free financially......but he followed through on it......the man didn't get there by total luck.....right place, right time......right people in his corner.....but that isn't what gets you there......it is a good start, but he ultimately made it a reality. Governor......financial independence......Mr. O 7 times......best action hero actor......come on bro.....it ain't all luck!!!!!!!!!
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pumpster,
yes.....Arnie was in the right place at the right time.....but many people had those opportunities......Weide r rolled out the red carpet for Draper.....but Dave was kind of in his own little world with a divorce and with Alcohol and recreational drugs.....Arnold had a unique ability to party and not lose track of his goals.....he also wanted to be a success outside bodybuilding......acting lessons learning the real estate biz.......he was multi-dimensional.....had a burning desire to be free financially......but he followed through on it......the man didn't get there by total luck.....right place, right time......right people in his corner.....but that isn't what gets you there......it is a good start, but he ultimately made it a reality. Governor......financial independence......Mr. O 7 times......best action hero actor......come on bro.....it ain't all luck!!!!!!!!!
good point about Draper...Draper was actually bigger than Arnold at that time and had more money and fame.....Draper was appearing on TV shows, commercials, and advertisements because he was big, handsome, and BLONDE...had all-american looks....and Weider really wanted to push him...but Draper didn't want that for whatever reason and became mired in problems and stopped competing....Arnold is the most focused and determined mofo I've ever seen..just pure get-out -of -my -way determination...wish I was like him
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good point about Draper...Draper was actually bigger than Arnold at that time and had more money and fame.....Draper was appearing on TV shows, commercials, and advertisements because he was big, handsome, and BLONDE...had all-american looks....and Weider really wanted to push him...but Draper didn't want that for whatever reason and became mired in problems and stopped competing....Arnold is the most focused and determined mofo I've ever seen..just pure get-out -of -my -way determination...wish I was like him
draper and larry scott before him were the chosen ones but there personalities didn't match there bodies arnold's did.
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draper and larry scott before him were the chosen ones but there personalities didn't match there bodies arnold's did.
good point
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yes, arnold is the total, self-indulgent, narcissistic douch-bag, one would expect ................of course he charms people, that is one of the ways in which he gets what they want from them.
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yes, arnold is the total, self-indulgent, narcissistic douch-bag, one would expect ................of course he charms people, that is one of the ways in which he gets what they want from them.
yep.....we should all be like Arnold..maybe then we would be governor and He would be posting on GetBig....that guy had some balls
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Can anyone confirm the rumor, that there were girls present backstage, at the 72 Olympia, and they were there to pleasure the bodybuilders? It was suggested that the girls were performing fellatio......any truth to this????
To do what? Blow the contestants before they pose?
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Well yes.....
they were not backstage eating lunch ;D