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Title: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Tre on May 22, 2009, 07:00:06 PM

Fuckstick.  Gotta love all the pit bull apologists out there who will swear that dogs - and especially pit bulls - are perfectly compatible with small children.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4199432

PITTSBURGH -- A pit bull owned by Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison bit his 2-year-old son in the thigh, but the boy is expected to recover as he remained hospitalized Friday, the player's agent said.

Harrison's agent, William Parise, told The Associated Press that James III was bitten after his mother let the dog out of its pen Thursday afternoon. Parise wouldn't identify the woman, but said she and Harrison's massage therapist also were hurt trying to help the boy. The massage therapist needed three stitches, Parise said.

Parise said Harrison was not home at the time, but was nearby and alerted after the dog attacked. Parise has not spoken to the boy's doctors, but Harrison told the agent his son likely will be hospitalized another day or two.

Parise said the boy's injuries were "serious but certainly not life-threatening. I think any time a child is injured and requires hospitalization, it's a serious thing. I know James was very concerned about his son."

The dog was removed by an animal control agency.

Burt Lauten, spokesman for the Super Bowl champion Steelers, said the team is "aware of this unfortunate situation. We express our concern for his family and hope that everyone involved makes a complete recovery."

A Franklin Park police spokeswoman on Friday said police are not commenting because the incident remains under investigation.

Parise said Harrison's son is at UPMC Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. A hospital spokesman said the family does not want information released.

Harrison lives about 15 miles north of the city.

Parise said Harrison has not had trouble with the animal in the past. "I've been with that dog personally, he's a wonderful animal," he said.

Parise said he doesn't know why the boy's mother let the dog out of the pen, other than to say he believes it was for a routine reason such as feeding or to care for the animal. The boy's mother does not live at the house, Parise said.

"There's no reason to believe that this is anything other than something that sometimes happens to children," Parise said. "The child should be fine."

Harrison is the NFL Defensive Player of the Year and scored on a 100-yard interception return in the team's 27-23 victory over Arizona in Super Bowl XLIII. He made headlines for declining to join the Steelers on a White House visit Thursday, though he passed up the same opportunity after the Steelers beat Seattle in Super bowl XL in 2006.

In 2006, then-Steelers linebacker Joey Porter was cited by police in Pine Township, another suburb north of Pittsburgh, after two of his dogs got loose and killed a miniature horse on a nearby farm. Northern Regional Police said then that Porter's dogs were licensed in his hometown of Bakersfield, Calif., but not in Allegheny County.

A woman who lives a few houses down from Harrison said his dogs are well-behaved and cared for and are not a problem for neighbors.

"I jog and I run past his house every day and I have never had any problems with that dog whatsoever," said Marissa Posteraro, 19. "I have never seen the dog or heard the dog bark or whatever so I was very surprised to find out that happened."

"The dog is very well-kept. It's never gotten loose before that I know of," she said.


Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: gordiano on May 22, 2009, 07:06:22 PM
Exactly. Pick one or the other...kids or your bulldog(s).
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: BIG DUB on May 22, 2009, 07:07:51 PM
All dogs will bite you if you fuck with them long enough. My aunt's toy pomeranian is the meanest little peice of shit i've ever seen. Will snap at you like lightning.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: elite_lifter on May 22, 2009, 07:21:45 PM
there are THOUSANDS of other stories about dogs biting kids, and they ARENT all pitbulls either, you just dont hear about the story unless its a pitbull. 

yet people like BIG DUB try to generalize all pitbulls into the same category.  other types of dogs have bitten kids as well.  any pet or animal could snap and injure anyone at anytime.  you generalizing pitbulls is as bad as people generalizing blacks after some black guy robs a house.  "oh, well there ya go...shows ya they should have never let those niggas into this country"  stupid generalizations like yours show lack of intelligence.
I'm shocked you contributed to a thread that doesn't involve posting your picture, therapy must be having a positive effect.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TruthHurts on May 22, 2009, 07:22:29 PM
hey, at least he didn't leave his kids and is tryin to be a father
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Tre on May 22, 2009, 07:28:04 PM
hey, at least he didn't leave his kids and is tryin to be a father

"I take care of my kids!!" 

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: JBGRAY on May 22, 2009, 07:31:38 PM
A lot of these "pitbulls" are in fact not truly pitbulls.  Pitbulls do not weight 90+ pounds.  However, a very wide assortment of dogs, from various lab mixes to non-bully dogs such as Cane Corses have often been called pitbulls, often for the media's sake of demonizing the breed.  It is quite sad, as the pitbull was once used for propaganda purposes for the US Army during the WW2 era and a couple of them actually received military medals.  I blame fuckstick, pants-sagging, trailer trash owners breeding them for huge heads and treating them like shit.  Equal blame can be on the piece of shit for-profit media that looks for anything resembling a pitbull attack story to sell their shitty newspapers.

Who the hell knows exactly what kind of dog Harrison had, or the kind of training or socialization it had.  Any large dog is capable of severely injuring children.  It takes a LOT of work, supervision, and training to have dogs around children, irregardless of size.  It certainly does not mean they are not compatible.  If you don't have the time or inclination to put the work into it, then its one or the other.

I own 3 pitbulls(ok, one is more of an American Bully, type).  They have frequent interaction with my nephews and nieces and the neighborhood children.  No, there has never been an incident, nor have they shown aggression.  They are however, under my supervision.  When I'm not around, they go in their kennel.

It seems that those who rant loudest about them being dangerous are the ones always severely misinformed and unwilling to learn about the breed(or dog behavior in general).
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 22, 2009, 07:32:24 PM
Here is the real irony.

If he wasn`t such a little bitch about the whole Obama meeting, he would have showed up to the Whitehouse, with his family and this would have NEVER happened.


:)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 22, 2009, 07:33:22 PM
Children pretty much suck anyway...   pets are way cooler!
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 22, 2009, 07:35:20 PM
"I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child"



Damn right it is.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: LurkyLurker on May 22, 2009, 07:36:44 PM
Yeah, but pit bulls have been specifically bred to fight. The best, strongest fighters have been bred over and over again until we have dogs who are literally designed to fight, both physically and mentally.

Sure, other dogs bite, but odds are you're not going to lose a limb to a Pomeranian.

Essentially, the domesticity has been bred out of pit bulls to the point where they are closer to wild than, say, a beagle. It's like the woman who lived with the chimp and swore it was domesticated, until it snapped and bit her friend's face off.

There are like 150 breeds of dogs and yet I'll walk through certain neighborhoods where 50-75% of the dogs are pitbulls. Of all the breeds available you know the owners didn't get them because they're sweet, loving animals. There are 149 other breeds that can fit that bill.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Tre on May 22, 2009, 07:37:44 PM
Here is the real irony.

If he wasn`t such a little bitch about the whole Obama meeting, he would have showed up to the Whitehouse, with his family and this would have NEVER happened.


:)

Wow, what a weird story:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Is-a-fear-of-flying-the-reason-Harrison-refused-?urn=nfl,164765

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 22, 2009, 07:39:45 PM
In 12 years that dog will be dead, you'll bury it in the backyard for free, then you'll get another one.  In 12 years a kid, on the other hand, would be adding shitloads of unnecessary stress to your life and asking for $100K to go to college.


dogs > kids
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: swilkins1984 on May 22, 2009, 07:40:46 PM
"I take care of my kids!!" 



haha Chris Rock in Bigger and Blacker  ;D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 22, 2009, 07:44:27 PM
Wow, what a weird story:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Is-a-fear-of-flying-the-reason-Harrison-refused-?urn=nfl,164765


Not meeting Obama was the WORST thing he could do.  His refusal to meet Obama nearly cost him his sons life.  Oh the irony.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 22, 2009, 07:45:34 PM
In 12 years that dog will be dead, you'll bury it in the backyard for free, then you'll get another one.  In 12 years a kid, on the other hand, would be adding shitloads of unnecessary stress to your life and asking for $100K to go to college.


dogs > kids
Indeed.  Kids are a stupid investment and I cannot see any benefit to ever having one.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 22, 2009, 07:46:25 PM
Yeah, but pit bulls have been specifically bred to fight. The best, strongest fighters have been bred over and over again until we have dogs who are literally designed to fight, both physically and mentally.

Sure, other dogs bite, but odds are you're not going to lose a limb to a Pomeranian.

Essentially, the domesticity has been bred out of pit bulls to the point where they are closer to wild than, say, a beagle. It's like the woman who lived with the chimp and swore it was domesticated, until it snapped and bit her friend's face off.

There are like 150 breeds of dogs and yet I'll walk through certain neighborhoods where 50-75% of the dogs are pitbulls. Of all the breeds available you know the owners didn't get them because they're sweet, loving animals. There are 149 other breeds that can fit that bill.


This is the absolutely stupidest post on getbig.

This post alone dropped the collective IQ of the entirety of getbig.

MattC is dumber for posting on the same board this post is on.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 22, 2009, 07:53:21 PM

This is the absolutely stupidest post on getbig.

This post alone dropped the collective IQ of the entirety of getbig.

MattC is dumber for posting on the same board this post is on.


So you're saying that post could drop the IQ of a fine Aryan specemin like MattC from the 130's to the 85 average of a negroid??  :o
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 22, 2009, 07:55:15 PM
Indeed.  Kids are a stupid investment and I cannot see any benefit to ever having one.



Does your sister Jezabelle feel the same way?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 22, 2009, 07:58:13 PM

So you're saying that post could drop the IQ of a fine Aryan specemin like MattC from the 130's to the 85 average of a negroid??  :o
Possibly as low as Debusseys.......52. :-\

As a matter of fact, if that poster were to enter a room filled with Mensa associates, you would be able to hear the vacuum of stupidity suck their IQ's into the teens.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: elite_lifter on May 22, 2009, 07:58:24 PM
Indeed.  Kids are a stupid investment and I cannot see any benefit to ever having one.
Here is a good reason for you to have children, once the people you are currently mooching off of die by that time your children will be in a position where you can mooch off of them. Jezebelle is a FOOL, I almost feel sorry for her.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: 240 is Back on May 22, 2009, 08:00:27 PM
"I take care of my kids!!" 

"What, you want a cookie?  You supp-ooooooosed to!"

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: jesusbod on May 22, 2009, 08:00:39 PM
Here is the real irony.

If he wasn`t such a little bitch about the whole Obama meeting, he would have showed up to the Whitehouse, with his family and this would have NEVER happened.


:)

Delusional as usual... You are a stupid fuck.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: gib on May 22, 2009, 08:02:32 PM
Why would you hope it was worth hurting a child??? What wrong has a 2 year old done to deserve that?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 22, 2009, 08:04:35 PM


Does your sister Jezabelle feel the same way?
Yeep.

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 22, 2009, 08:05:57 PM
Why would you hope it was worth hurting a child??? What wrong has a 2 year old done to deserve that?
Its not worth anything.  It is simply one of lifes little ironies is all.  Obama could have saved the day whilst he chose his own hubris instead.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: LurkyLurker on May 22, 2009, 08:31:23 PM

This is the absolutely stupidest post on getbig.

This post alone dropped the collective IQ of the entirety of getbig.

MattC is dumber for posting on the same board this post is on.

Thanks for clarifying your disagreement with my post. Obviously you put a sh*tload of thought into your well reasoned rebuttal. Good work Ironside.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 22, 2009, 08:36:05 PM
Thanks for clarifying your disagreement with my post. Obviously you put a sh*tload of thought into your well reasoned rebuttal. Good work Ironside.
About as much thought in my post as there was in yours, stoolpusher.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 22, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
The socio-economic consistencies in dog attacks show that blacks and poor folks don't know how to raise dogs, and these are the people who get pits, poorly socialize them, and end up with an incident on their hands. I work with dogs, I work with a pit rescue group, I know as much about this subject as anyone you will meet.  But the bottom line is that is that minorities and the poor have the overwhelming number of dogs involved with dog attacks.  Idiots are attracted to power, but they rarely know how to handle it.  Sorry if the truth hurts.

A properly raised american pit bull terrier is the sweetest and friendliest dog on the planet.  If you don't believe me, ask a UKC or AKC (am staff in that regard) judge.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 22, 2009, 08:48:29 PM
Yeah, but pit bulls have been specifically bred to fight. The best, strongest fighters have been bred over and over again until we have dogs who are literally designed to fight, both physically and mentally.

Sure, other dogs bite, but odds are you're not going to lose a limb to a Pomeranian.

Essentially, the domesticity has been bred out of pit bulls to the point where they are closer to wild than, say, a beagle. It's like the woman who lived with the chimp and swore it was domesticated, until it snapped and bit her friend's face off.

There are like 150 breeds of dogs and yet I'll walk through certain neighborhoods where 50-75% of the dogs are pitbulls. Of all the breeds available you know the owners didn't get them because they're sweet, loving animals. There are 149 other breeds that can fit that bill.


you are clueless.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 22, 2009, 08:48:44 PM
Yeep.





Well, I guess that solves the problem of limiting the gene pool.  ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 22, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
The gene pool is too large as it is and the garbage genes of the stupid have already proliferated beyond control.   As time goes on, the worse it shall become.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 22, 2009, 08:51:37 PM
The gene pool is too large as it is and the garbage genes of the stupid have already proliferated beyond control.   As time goes on, the worse it shall become.

have you read the age of american unreason by susan jacoby?  If you haven't, I suggest you do.  Although she often comes across as elitist, she makes some good points.  I think you'd enjoy it.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 22, 2009, 09:23:57 PM


Yeah, they're real vicious creatures. ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: burn2live on May 23, 2009, 04:48:22 AM
Yeah, but pit bulls have been specifically bred to fight. The best, strongest fighters have been bred over and over again until we have dogs who are literally designed to fight, both physically and mentally.

Sure, other dogs bite, but odds are you're not going to lose a limb to a Pomeranian.

Essentially, the domesticity has been bred out of pit bulls to the point where they are closer to wild than, say, a beagle. It's like the woman who lived with the chimp and swore it was domesticated, until it snapped and bit her friend's face off.

There are like 150 breeds of dogs and yet I'll walk through certain neighborhoods where 50-75% of the dogs are pitbulls. Of all the breeds available you know the owners didn't get them because they're sweet, loving animals. There are 149 other breeds that can fit that bill.

Exactly
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 04:52:12 AM
A pitbull is a huge aryan bastard with muscles. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 05:15:36 AM
Exactly
Bullshit.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 05:21:49 AM
If you want to look tough.........get a pitbull.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 05:22:12 AM


Yeah, they're real vicious creatures. ::)

Give me a greyhound over a pitbull any day.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 05:25:13 AM
Any bet these "rescued" dogs from Vick will end up attacking someone and get put down.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: MAXX on May 23, 2009, 05:26:40 AM

This is the absolutely stupidest post on getbig.

This post alone dropped the collective IQ of the entirety of getbig.

MattC is dumber for posting on the same board this post is on.
how so?

my best guess is that you own a pitbull

 :D ;)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 05:28:17 AM
Any bet these "rescued" dogs from Vick will end up attacking someone and get put down.
How much you want to bet?

I know you're an Aborigine, so how about 2 sticks, 1 rock and a pair of chicken feet?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 05:33:36 AM
Any bet these "rescued" dogs from Vick will end up attacking someone and get put down.

qft from the Australian oak!
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 05:33:36 AM
How much you want to bet?

I know you're an Aborigine, so how about 2 sticks, 1 rock and a pair of chicken feet?

Well i know you live in a trailer, so how about a crack pipe and a 6 pack?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 05:35:03 AM
Well i know you live in a trailer, so how about a crack pipe and a 6 pack?
I'll up the ante......a stained wife beater against your roo skin sandals! :D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 05:39:57 AM
I'll up the ante......a stained wife beater against your roo skin sandals! :D

I don't know about that man.......pretty much all i own.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 05:42:51 AM
I don't know about that man.......pretty much all i own.

You are the Australian Oak!
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 05:45:27 AM
You are the Australian Oak!

Damn straight!
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Method101 on May 23, 2009, 06:46:01 AM
It's simple, the boy is small so the dog thinks he is superior to him, as soon as a dog thinks it's your superior in the pack and deems you a liability it will not hesitate to attack you.

When a dog licks you/rolls on it's back to be tickled, the truth is, it's all just a display of submission, nothing more.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lovemonkey on May 23, 2009, 06:54:18 AM
It's simple, the boy is small so the dog thinks he is superior to him, as soon as a dog thinks it's your superior in the pack and deems you a liability it will not hesitate to attack you.

When a dog licks you/rolls on it's back to be tickled, the truth is, it's all just a display of submission, nothing more.

Dominance/submission isn't necessarily related with size.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Method101 on May 23, 2009, 07:06:33 AM
Dominance/submission isn't necessarily related with size.
in the case where a dog attacks a child it's the size advantage that usually gives it the confidence to do so.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lovemonkey on May 23, 2009, 07:08:38 AM
in the case where a dog attacks a child it's the size advantage that usually gives it the confidence to do so.

No, more likely a dominant/agressive dog to begin with.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: burn2live on May 23, 2009, 07:19:37 AM
Bullshit.

How so? If a dog has been bred to fight it will tend to fight? Logical imo
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lovemonkey on May 23, 2009, 07:26:43 AM
How so? If a dog has been bred to fight it will tend to fight? Logical imo

Ever looked at some of the bite statistics out there..?

In my country german shepherd and kings poodle top the list on the # of bites. Pitbull was out of the top 30.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: burn2live on May 23, 2009, 07:28:11 AM
Ever looked at some of the bite statistics out there..?

In my country german shepherd and kings poodle top the list on the # of bites. Pitbull was out of the top 30.

Good point man. Damage done should be taken into consideration though as well I think. I'd much rather be bitten by a poodle than a pit  :D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lovemonkey on May 23, 2009, 07:31:04 AM
Good point man. Damage done should be taken into consideration though as well I think. I'd much rather be bitten by a poodle than a pit  :D

Ever seen a kings poodle? They fuck you up badly if they want to.

The bite statistic I mentioned refers to damages which require hospitalization.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Cap on May 23, 2009, 07:40:53 AM
Meanest dog I have ever dealt with was a Jack Russell Terrier. The same dog bit 6 different people, two of them were women....in the vagina. 

My dogs have always snapped at people I didn't like.  It's pretty funny how that works.  Maybe this guy hates his kids.... ;D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 23, 2009, 08:42:30 AM
Children pretty much suck anyway...   pets are way cooler!

Goat, was it you that a long time ago had a response to someone along the lines of ...

"I think it's stupid how people dress up their dogs and parade them around in their car to show them off."  --- poster

"I feel the same way about kids...."  ---Goatboy

Not exact phrasing, but something like that.  I always thought it was funny.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The Master on May 23, 2009, 08:45:39 AM
In 12 years that dog will be dead, you'll bury it in the backyard for free, then you'll get another one.  In 12 years a kid, on the other hand, would be adding shitloads of unnecessary stress to your life and asking for $100K to go to college.


dogs > kids


You only say this because your wife = a muslim and an iranian brown muslim whore. Your kids would be beige ;D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Tre on May 23, 2009, 08:45:58 AM

It's simple, the boy is small so the dog thinks he is superior to him, as soon as a dog thinks it's your superior in the pack and deems you a liability it will not hesitate to attack you.

When a dog licks you/rolls on it's back to be tickled, the truth is, it's all just a display of submission, nothing more.

I'm not going to make the trip to do so, but yeah, I'd whup Harrison's dog's behind just to let him know I could.  Let's see how well he can bite with a broken jaw. 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Tre on May 23, 2009, 08:47:21 AM
Meanest dog I have ever dealt with was a Jack Russell Terrier. The same dog bit 6 different people, two of them were women....in the vagina. 

Jacks are cool as shit.  I think they tend to nip more than bite, though.  Maybe that one just liked pussy.  Not gonna fault him there, cuz I do, too.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: mass 04 on May 23, 2009, 08:49:43 AM
One of mine is a pomeranian, the most annoying dog on planet Earth.


(http://www.breederretriever.com/photopost/data/524/medium/pommy.JPG)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Cap on May 23, 2009, 09:06:21 AM
Jacks are cool as shit.  I think they tend to nip more than bite, though.  Maybe that one just liked pussy.  Not gonna fault him there, cuz I do, too.
This dog latches on for dear life.  It bit me in the knee and held on.  That dog was pure bred and vicious as hell.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 09:17:24 AM
Who knows that the kid did to the dog?   Maybe he poked it in the eye, or hurt it.  Maybe he was wrestling with it.  My point is this, you should never leave a kid(s) alone with any powerful dog.  In regards to pits, they can be very aggressive towards other dogs if they are not properly sociliazed, but they are very tolerant of humans.  Why would a dogfighter want a dog that attacked him every time he pulled the dog out of the ring?  Pitbulls are no different than Dobermans, GSD's, Mastiffs and other powerful dogs.  You need to bring them up correctly and you need to treat them with respect.

Infact, if trained correctly and brought up in a social manner, pitbulls are a very good family dogs.  The problem is that all the lowlifes and morons in society are getting pitbulls and encouraging poor behavior out of them.  Something tells me that James Harrison didn't take the time to properly raise his dog.  You have a better chance of being hit by lighting than attacked by a pitbull, thats a fact.

This just as easily could have been a lab or a mutt.  Most of the harshest pitbull critics have never owned one or been around one.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 09:19:01 AM
Who knows that the kid did to the dog?   Maybe he poked it in the eye, or hurt it.  Maybe he was wrestling with it.  My point is this, you should never leave a kid(s) alone with any powerful dog.  In regards to pits, they can be very aggressive towards other dogs if they are not properly sociliazed, but they are very tolerant of humans.  Why would a dogfighter want a dog that attacked him every time he pulled the dog out of the ring?  Pitbulls are no different than Dobermans, GSD's, Mastiffs and other powerful dogs.  You need to bring them up correctly and you need to treat them with respect.

Infact, if trained correctly and brought up in a social manner, pitbulls are a very good family dogs.  The problem is that all the lowlifes and morons in society are getting pitbulls and encouraging poor behavior out of them.  Something tells me that James Harrison didn't take the time to properly raise his dog.  You have a better chance of being hit by lighting than attacked by a pitbull, thats a fact.

Which is why whippets and greyhounds=much better.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 09:23:11 AM
Which is why whippets and greyhounds=much better.


Not really.  If you don't bring up those breeds correctly your going to have issues.  You ever watch dog whisperer?  All kinds of aggressive, fucked up dogs from all walks of life.  They all have one thing in common, they have owners who don't know shit about how to raise a dog correctly or they are to fucking lazy to do whats needed.

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: mass 04 on May 23, 2009, 09:25:28 AM
My neighbor has 2 pits and they are the sweetest dogs you will ever meet. A shame such a great breed has been ruined by scum and criminals.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lax on May 23, 2009, 09:27:01 AM
Harrison is that Patriot who would not visit Obama in the White house with the team.

He is a Fuck Up.

What more do you need to know

(Not a black white thing, either...Bama is, as you know, Black).

When will this shit end.

NEVER.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 09:33:22 AM
My neighbor has 2 pits and they are the sweetest dogs you will ever meet. A shame such a great breed has been ruined by scum and criminals.


I know the anti-pit brigade wont want to hear this, but thats usually the case.  Pitbulls are a victim of tough guy syndrome right now.  "Joey Grecco" from Queens New York wants to be a badass so he gets a pit and encourages aggression. Doesent socialize it, doesent train it at all....keeps it chained up all day - etc.  Then one day Joey forgets to lock his fence and the dog mauls a kid.  Everyone wants to kill off the breed instead of taking a look at the person who owned the dog.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 09:47:22 AM

Not really.  If you don't bring up those breeds correctly your going to have issues.  You ever watch dog whisperer?  All kinds of aggressive, fucked up dogs from all walks of life.  They all have one thing in common, they have owners who don't know shit about how to raise a dog correctly or they are to fucking lazy to do whats needed.



Just watched a bit. Might be true. I still wouldn't want a pitbull.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
My Dogs,

DARWIN and TESLA
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 09:57:05 AM
 ;)
(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/tesla1_654.jpg)

(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/tesla2_214.jpg)
(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/tesla98_154.jpg)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 10:02:54 AM
Just watched a bit. Might be true. I still wouldn't want a pitbull.

I can understand that.  I'm not saying everyone should love the breed.  I like all types of dogs, really.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 10:03:06 AM
(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/d6_196.jpg)

(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/d3_391.jpg)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 23, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
We had a few pits when I was growing up and never had any trouble with humans...other dogs, they could be a handful with if not properly handled, but they were never agressive towards people.  We had a pit and a Norweigan elk hound at the same time...people were always worried about the pit, but the elk hound was a biter to loud, agressive people.  Man, I loved those dogs....
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: mass 04 on May 23, 2009, 10:08:54 AM
Good looking dogs Adam. It's funny, i've been around dogs my whole life, we have three now and three when i was growing up, and the guy that lives next door always had pits. The pits have never bothered my dogs and are great to play with. Cats have bloodied me, but the pits have never done anything remotley agressive. ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 10:11:46 AM
(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/d6_196.jpg)

(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/d3_391.jpg)


Is that your dog?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Quo on May 23, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
People who own Pit Bulls have some type of "insecurity" they are dealing with.... ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 10:16:10 AM
People who own Pit Bulls have some type of "insecurity" they are dealing with.... ::)

All genetics.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
Is that your dog?

Yea,

Both of them.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 10:23:16 AM
Sculpture via Jezebelle
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Tre on May 23, 2009, 10:26:15 AM
My Dogs,

DARWIN and TESLA

Damn, they look fast! 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 23, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
wont even bother reading  this whole thread-----but stats dont lie, far more golden retrievers and cocker spaniels attack people and children than pitbulls

typical ignorance spliced in with some Adonis attention whoring...no wonder I dont post here anymore
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lax on May 23, 2009, 10:39:15 AM
treat them bad
that is how they turn out bad

simple as that
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 10:39:50 AM
wont even bother reading  this whole thread-----but stats dont lie, far more golden retrievers and cocker spaniels attack people and children than pitbulls

typical ignorance spliced in with some Adonis attention whoring...no wonder I dont post here anymore
Nobody feels sorry for your plight.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: kiwiol on May 23, 2009, 10:42:42 AM
wont even bother reading  this whole thread-----but stats dont lie, far more golden retrievers and cocker spaniels attack people and children than pitbulls

typical ignorance spliced in with some Adonis attention whoring...no wonder I dont post here anymore

I was wondering when you were going to chime in on this thread. It's just media sensationalism of a statistically insignificant occurrence to make a mountain out of a molehill. Firstly, for every case of a Pit bull attacking someone in it's foster family, there are tons of cases where the opposite is true - I know they are great family dogs if raised properly. And secondly, aside from the fact that it's an animal which will always have a wild side to it that can never be completely wiped out (and shouldn't be), it isn't the only breed among dogs that's been known to turn on someone in the family that shelters it. Why it attacked and how much it was provoked is something most people don't bother to find out or hear about.

treat them bad
that is how they turn out bad

simple as that

Very true.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lax on May 23, 2009, 10:48:49 AM
Nobody feels sorry for your plight.

i do
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Method101 on May 23, 2009, 10:53:53 AM
;)


(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/tesla2_214.jpg)


The glutes are nicley striated, how many weeks out?
Looks like the day of the show since the hair has been removed.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Method101 on May 23, 2009, 10:54:36 AM
treat them bad
that is how they turn out bad

simple as that
bullshit
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: kiwiol on May 23, 2009, 10:56:26 AM
Sculpture via Jezebelle

Great stuff there, TA. How long does it take her to do one of those?

Very cool dogs too. Do you enter them in races?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 23, 2009, 11:01:47 AM
Nobody feels sorry for your plight.
Im am deeply disturbed and emotionally damaged due to your lack of empathy, of course this is only further magnified by my intense interest and fascination with your greyhounds ::)

it is ironic however that greyhounds are some of the most mistreated and abused dogs out there, if people really knew the fate of the racing dogs after their career is done, people would be appalled.  Very few are adopted in the grand scheme of things.  Greyhounds are a pointless breed, bred to run in circles, they are not true hunting dogs or even capable of being guard dogs. Greyhounds only serve to buffer the ego of their snide and selfish owners.

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 23, 2009, 11:04:43 AM
Sculpture via Jezebelle
HAHAHaha owned

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D69567&imgrefurl=http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php%3Ft%3D051336&usg=__c991UBAbtMDDi1aMOXoXTOg0zLQ=&h=720&w=960&sz=55&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=eVtZwxEUiGe46M:&tbnh=111&tbnw=148&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgreyhound%2Bsculpture%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1B3RNFA_enUS220US241%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php%3Fattachmentid%3D69567&imgrefurl=http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php%3Ft%3D051336&usg=__c991UBAbtMDDi1aMOXoXTOg0zLQ=&h=720&w=960&sz=55&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=eVtZwxEUiGe46M:&tbnh=111&tbnw=148&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgreyhound%2Bsculpture%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1B3RNFA_enUS220US241%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1)

nice googling---------why do you have to lie about this ???

Perhaps Christopher Tackett should be told his sculpure was actually made by Jezebelle :o
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Method101 on May 23, 2009, 11:06:43 AM
Coolest dog

(http://static.gotpetsonline.com/pictures-gallery/dog-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/alaskan-malamute-pictures-breeders-puppies-rescue/pictures/alaskan-malamute-0010.jpg)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: kiwiol on May 23, 2009, 11:37:15 AM
HAHAHaha owned
(http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php?attachmentid=69567)
nice googling---------why do you have to lie about this ???

Perhaps Christopher Tackett should be told his sculpure was actually made by Jezebelle :o

Speak on this, Adonis.

(http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php?attachmentid=69568)

(http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/attachment.php?attachmentid=69569)

Link to page: http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=051336
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Tre on May 23, 2009, 11:45:34 AM
wont even bother reading  this whole thread-----but stats dont lie, far more golden retrievers and cocker spaniels attack people and children than pitbulls

typical ignorance spliced in with some Adonis attention whoring...no wonder I dont post here anymore

Cocker Spaniels, maybe, but Golden Retrievers, no. 

The percentages aren't even close.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 11:57:56 AM
(http://bulldogbreeds.com/breeders/pics/miami_french_bulldog3.jpg)

(http://www.greatdogsite.com/admin/uploaded_files/1190779926french_bulldog.jpg)

(http://dogexpertguides.com/frenchbulldog/french_bulldog.jpg)

French Bulldog

I want one of these cute little guys  :)    ...or three
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:06:50 PM
Great stuff there, TA. How long does it take her to do one of those?

Very cool dogs too. Do you enter them in races?
She didn`t do them.  She sent them to me which is why I put "via" Jezebelle.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: BigIronPete on May 23, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
She didn`t do them.  She sent them to me which is why I put "via" Jezebelle.
hahahaha ;D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:07:59 PM
Im am deeply disturbed and emotionally damaged due to your lack of empathy, of course this is only further magnified by my intense interest and fascination with your greyhounds ::)

it is ironic however that greyhounds are some of the most mistreated and abused dogs out there, if people really knew the fate of the racing dogs after their career is done, people would be appalled.  Very few are adopted in the grand scheme of things.  Greyhounds are a pointless breed, bred to run in circles, they are not true hunting dogs or even capable of being guard dogs. Greyhounds only serve to buffer the ego of their snide and selfish owners.



Have you ever SEEN a racing facility or a training facility?  Nicest places around and you can freely tour them.

I will post some pictures.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: StickStickly on May 23, 2009, 12:08:07 PM
She didn`t do them.  She sent them to me which is why I put "via" Jezebelle.
Nordic Poop owned.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: kiwiol on May 23, 2009, 12:09:04 PM
She didn`t do them.  She sent them to me which is why I put "via" Jezebelle.

Fair enough, that makes sense.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:10:28 PM
Fair enough, that makes sense.
They are computer graphics.  I didn`t realize Nordic Beast was so dim as to not realize this.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:18:32 PM
HERE IS the GREYHOUND RACING Facility that my dogs were trained at in Florida: Does this look like a nice place?  Do the dogs look abused?  The myths are highly annoying
(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1539250&id=54061432973&l=ef908aa376)


(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1539248&id=54061432973&l=ef908aa376)
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2656/76/86/54061432973/n54061432973_1539220_6573958.jpg)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
RACING FACILITIES are VERY NICE!
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:24:39 PM
Last year, 100 percent of racing dogs were homed.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: BigIronPete on May 23, 2009, 12:24:46 PM
RACING FACILITIES are VERY NICE!

why do they cage the dogs? Why not let them roam. A bit barbaric no?

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:30:44 PM
why do they cage the dogs? Why not let them roam. A bit barbaric no?


Do you see a cage? 

There is nearly a half a mile to a mile in each pen and each dog is housed in doors at night in air conditioning.

The racing facility I am sure is better than the average treatment a pet normally gets from a loving owner.  All racing facilities are open to the public as well.  There are WAY too many myths floating around and it really is saddening to see them being perpetuated.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: BigIronPete on May 23, 2009, 12:34:35 PM
Do you see a cage? 

There is nearly a half a mile to a mile in each pen and each dog is housed in doors at night in air conditioning.

The racing facility I am sure is better than the average treatment a pet normally gets from a loving owner.  All racing facilities are open to the public as well.  There are WAY too many myths floating around and it really is saddening to see them being perpetuated.

They are they restricted by fencing then. The Dingos of Australia run free all the way from sydney harbour to deep into the outback.

Who is the lady in the last picture? Is she single?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:40:57 PM
Each dog costs about a minimum of 10,000 dollars all the way up to 500,000 or more during their racing years depending on the pedigree.  Only the top dogs are bred and the population is HIGHLY regulated.  You cannot legally breed them yourself unless you have a National Greyhound License as it would pollute the gene pool.  

Do you think people would abuse such an investment?  It is like horse racing.  Do you think they will abuse a 30 million dollar thoroughbred?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:41:51 PM
They are they restricted by fencing then. The Dingos of Australia run free all the way from sydney harbour to deep into the outback.

Who is the lady in the last picture? Is she single?
Her Name is Tracey and I have no idea if she is or is not.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: BigIronPete on May 23, 2009, 12:43:11 PM
Her Name is Tracey and I have no idea if she is or is not.

Do you know her well? Does she own that place? What is she like? Tell me about her.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: big man on May 23, 2009, 12:44:39 PM
I've said what I had to say about dogs on the pets board. No offense to dog owners, but they can't be trusted. This is a perfect example. What could a 2yr old possible do to the dog to deserve that? Pathetic. ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:45:18 PM
I've said what I had to say about dogs on the pets board. No offense to dog owners, but they can't be trusted. This is a perfect example. What could a 2yr old possible do to the dog to deserve that? Pathetic. ::)
Could have stepped on it while it was sleeping.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: big man on May 23, 2009, 12:52:15 PM
Could have stepped on it while it was sleeping.
True but.... come on? A 2yr old
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 12:54:25 PM
Do you see a cage? 

There is nearly a half a mile to a mile in each pen and each dog is housed in doors at night in air conditioning.

The racing facility I am sure is better than the average treatment a pet normally gets from a loving owner.  All racing facilities are open to the public as well.  There are WAY too many myths floating around and it really is saddening to see them being perpetuated.

I think sighthounds are my favourite group of dogs, though personally in terms of pure appearance I like Irish Wolfhounds and Scottish Deerhounds. Practically I would go for a whippet because they are well suited to apartment life.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 12:59:19 PM
True but.... come on? A 2yr old

What has age got to do with it.  You don`t step on a sleeping dog. Any dog.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: big man on May 23, 2009, 01:05:34 PM
What has age got to do with it.  You don`t step on a sleeping dog. Any dog.
Okay. It's not worth the arguement ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
People who own Pit Bulls have some type of "insecurity" they are dealing with.... ::)

The same is said about bodybuilders.  You're a fan of an activity that is based on insecurity, lol.  Also, I'm sure that a woman like jessica Beil owns a pitbull because she is sooo insecure  ::)  More famous pitbull owners, Thomas Edison, Jessica Alba, Woodrow Wilson, Brad Pitt........etc


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BpMgNcZq53c/RqBXLCn8CuI/AAAAAAAAAZo/4OiTHM8oeX8/s320/jessica-biel.jpg)



Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 01:22:20 PM
The same is said about bodybuilders.  You're a fan of an activity that is based on insecurity, lol.  Also, I'm sure that a woman like jessica Beil owns a pitbull because she is insecure  ::) 


(http://ttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BpMgNcZq53c/RqBXLCn8CuI/AAAAAAAAAZo/4OiTHM8oeX8/s320/jessica-biel.jpg)



You=good genetics.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 01:27:40 PM
You=good genetics.

That guy won't recover.

I have no problem with people who are not fans of pitbulls.  I get why they might feel that way.....it's a free country. However, I do have a problem with people who think they are experts on everything and talk a bunch of shit about something they know nothing about (like our friend a few posts above).

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: LurkyLurker on May 23, 2009, 01:31:24 PM
Bullshit.

Your debating skillz are extraordinary, genius.

From Wiki:
A study examining a two-year period by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stated that, "during 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF (dog bite related fatalities) during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers" [the study places both breeds into one category] "...were involved in more than half of these deaths." Additionally, the article concluded: "Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates."

and...

In response to a number of well-publicized incidents involving dogs that resemble Pit Bulls, some jurisdictions began placing restrictions on the ownership of Pit Bulls, such as the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 in the UK, an example of breed-specific legislation. Many jurisdictions have outlawed the possession of Pit Bulls, either Pit Bull breeds specifically, or in addition to other breeds that are regarded as dangerous.

A bunch of U.S. states have legislated against pit bulls - not against poodles, dachshunds or collies - due to a disproportionate number of incidents of pit bull attacks.
 
Also on Wikipedia there's a tidy list of countries around the world that either ban or legislate pit bulls- judiciaries the world over have deliberated on the relation between this species and attacks on humans and made rules in accordance. So I guess legislators across the globe and in the U.S. all pale in comparison to your detailed analysis of this matter?

Feel free to continue on in your role as a bottom feeder on Getbig, if that's your bag. Or instead, prove me wrong. Show some kind of evidence that pit bulls were not bred for fighting and that they aren't involved in a higher incidence of dog attacks than other breeds. That was all that my original post stated, to which you cried bullshit. Well, make your case, or take a powder.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 23, 2009, 01:34:01 PM
dogs are as good or as bad as their owners.

ever met the kind of person that tends to own a pit or a rottie? they aren't all guys like nordic or knny, a lot of 'em are total shitbags that are PROUD that their dogs are mean and dangerous. get someone who's a little more nurturing and they'll be absolute teddy bears. friend of my family had three rotties and those things were so docile it was amazing.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 01:39:14 PM
Your debating skillz are extraordinary, genius.

From Wiki:
A study examining a two-year period by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stated that, "during 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF (dog bite related fatalities) during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers" [the study places both breeds into one category] "...were involved in more than half of these deaths." Additionally, the article concluded: "Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates."

and...

In response to a number of well-publicized incidents involving dogs that resemble Pit Bulls, some jurisdictions began placing restrictions on the ownership of Pit Bulls, such as the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 in the UK, an example of breed-specific legislation. Many jurisdictions have outlawed the possession of Pit Bulls, either Pit Bull breeds specifically, or in addition to other breeds that are regarded as dangerous.

A bunch of U.S. states have legislated against pit bulls - not against poodles, dachshunds or collies - due to a disproportionate number of incidents of pit bull attacks.
 
Also on Wikipedia there's a tidy list of countries around the world that either ban or legislate pit bulls- judiciaries the world over have deliberated on the relation between this species and attacks on humans and made rules in accordance. So I guess legislators across the globe and in the U.S. all pale in comparison to your detailed analysis of this matter?

Feel free to continue on in your role as a bottom feeder on Getbig, if that's your bag. Or instead, prove me wrong. Show some kind of evidence that pit bulls were not bred for fighting and that they aren't involved in a higher incidence of dog attacks than other breeds. That was all that my original post stated, to which you cried bullshit. Well, make your case, or take a powder.


You understand that pitbull type dogs includes about 5 breeds correct?  Also, that says that roughly 140 people have been killed by pitbull type dogs and rotts over the last 20 years.  last year alone 67 people died from being hit by lighting. 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 01:49:36 PM

You understand that pitbull type dogs includes about 5 breeds correct? 
At minimum, but "Lurky" is too busy hating and surfing wiki to "prove" his stats.......I could pull stats all day long that show pits are way down the ranks of dog bites.....

Sounds to me like "Lurky" found that video of his old lady and the pit and now has an agenda against the poor dogs. :-\
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 01:50:53 PM
Each dog costs about a minimum of 10,000 dollars all the way up to 500,000 or more during their racing years depending on the pedigree.  Only the top dogs are bred and the population is HIGHLY regulated.  You cannot legally breed them yourself unless you have a National Greyhound License as it would pollute the gene pool.  

Do you think people would abuse such an investment?  It is like horse racing.  Do you think they will abuse a 30 million dollar thoroughbred?
I'm glad to see you adopted your dogs and gave them a nice home. Did you not like the names Chuckles and Misty?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 01:54:47 PM
You guys ever try dog meat?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 02:00:09 PM
dogs are as good or as bad as their owners.

ever met the kind of person that tends to own a pit or a rottie? they aren't all guys like nordic or knny, a lot of 'em are total shitbags that are PROUD that their dogs are mean and dangerous. get someone who's a little more nurturing and they'll be absolute teddy bears. friend of my family had three rotties and those things were so docile it was amazing.
I have yet to see a mean Pitbull or a mean Rottwieler.  I even find it more amusing sometimes when the ones who do get these dogs for the reasons you stated above, the dogs then turn out to be either playful doofuses or totally disinterested in even barking at anyone. lolol

I have seen that over and over again.  They will brag about their dog and how big and mean its going to be and then it turns out to be a typical house dog and really crappy guard dog.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 02:05:40 PM
Dog meat soup.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 02:08:04 PM
I have yet to see a mean Pitbull or a mean Rottwieler.  I even find it more amusing sometimes when the ones who do get these dogs for the reasons you stated above, the dogs then turn out to be either playful doofuses or totally disinterested in even barking at anyone. lolol

I have seen that over and over again.  They will brag about their dog and how big and mean its going to be and then it turns out to be a typical house dog and really crappy guard dog.
Been around pits for well over a decade, never had an issue with any of them.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 23, 2009, 02:10:50 PM
I like how no one really had anything intelligent to say except Body88 and a few others, but that should be expected.  If you want hard, scientific data, check out this site:

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/

Most dangerous dog is the english cocker spaniel.

and on the american temperment testing society webpage, pits rate higher than countless popular breeds, like the beagle and the golden retriever.

www.atts.org

And I work with the group that rescued those Vick dogs (body88 can confirm this), and I can easily gaurantee not one will have a problem.  Amazing dogs with very short memories.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 02:13:10 PM
Been around pits for well over a decade, never had an issue with any of them.

Exactly.  Michael Vick`s dog were able to be re-homed as soon as their torture stopped.  You really have to do some fucked up things to a dog to make him willing to fight.  Basically putting them in perpetual state of fear and invoking a total delusional mental state by torturing them, altering their normal mindset.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 02:13:56 PM
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Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The Master on May 23, 2009, 02:15:55 PM
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;D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 02:16:54 PM
Exactly.  Michael Vick`s dog were able to be re-homed as soon as their torture stopped.  You really have to do some fucked up things to a dog to make him willing to fight.  Basically putting them in perpetual state of fear and invoking a total delusional mental state by torturing them, altering their normal mindset.
Not just that, but a pit dog that bites a person is a useless dog in the pit, nobody wants to handle a dog that is going to bite him. Their temperment is very loving, friendly towards people.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 02:17:40 PM

;D

I've had it several times. It's very tasty.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 04:05:45 PM
I used to jog alot in my old neighborhood..  there were no leashlaws at the time, unfortunatly. So many houses I would jog past would have a dog in the yard snarling, growling, barking and trying to get over the fence at me... I noticed they all resmbled some sort of rott/pit or some variation of the two. (seemed like everyone had one)Two or three occasions was chased by them...I dont think they wanted to play.. at that point I gave up running outdoors and got myself a treadmill.

It seems to be irresponsible ownership combined with the temperament of this breed.. pits/rotts I notice do seem to be prone to aggressive behavior or easily have that tendency. Ive never had a bad experience with any other breed of dog. Having said that I wouldnt trust ANY dog alone with a small child. All animals can be very unpredictable. Birds, cats, dogs, reptiles...  why do people always insist on testing this???

I'm no dog expert.. far from it. But if you keep hearing stories like this over and over... there is going to be an element of truth to it. Chances are, it is not made up baloney. There is a reason why people breed these dogs to fight and/or protect property... they DO have an aggressive dominant nature. I think they make wonderful pets with tons of personality, to an owner who is very loving, attentive, and caring... but not for just any idiot.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: kiwiol on May 23, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
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Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: wikkedonez on May 23, 2009, 04:30:44 PM
Harrison didnt go in 2006 when they won the Superbowl either. I think its great. Fuck Obama. He even said at the ceremony he was a Bears fan. Who cares about meeting the President? They show Osama at a basketball game but did he go to a Washington Capitals hockey game in his own back yard???? NO. Good for Harrison......Go STEELERS ;D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 04:31:16 PM
Your debating skillz are extraordinary, genius.

From Wiki:
A study examining a two-year period by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stated that, "during 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF (dog bite related fatalities) during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers" [the study places both breeds into one category] "...were involved in more than half of these deaths." Additionally, the article concluded: "Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates."

and...

In response to a number of well-publicized incidents involving dogs that resemble Pit Bulls, some jurisdictions began placing restrictions on the ownership of Pit Bulls, such as the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 in the UK, an example of breed-specific legislation. Many jurisdictions have outlawed the possession of Pit Bulls, either Pit Bull breeds specifically, or in addition to other breeds that are regarded as dangerous.

A bunch of U.S. states have legislated against pit bulls - not against poodles, dachshunds or collies - due to a disproportionate number of incidents of pit bull attacks.
 
Also on Wikipedia there's a tidy list of countries around the world that either ban or legislate pit bulls- judiciaries the world over have deliberated on the relation between this species and attacks on humans and made rules in accordance. So I guess legislators across the globe and in the U.S. all pale in comparison to your detailed analysis of this matter?

Feel free to continue on in your role as a bottom feeder on Getbig, if that's your bag. Or instead, prove me wrong. Show some kind of evidence that pit bulls were not bred for fighting and that they aren't involved in a higher incidence of dog attacks than other breeds. That was all that my original post stated, to which you cried bullshit. Well, make your case, or take a powder.


I want to look at these stats again.  Ok, so lets say "pitbull" type breeds = 5 different breeds + the Rot's.  In total this group of dogs was responsible for roughly 115 deaths over the last 20 years.  Since they've grouped Rots in with the "pitbull types", lets say half of the 115 totals deaths were caused by "pitbull type" dogs.  So, 57.5 deaths over the last 20 years (2.8 per year) were caused by "pitbull" type dogs.  As I mentioned, lightning kills roughly 67 people per year.  Over 20 years lighting kills roughly 1340 people or 67 per year, vs the 2.8 per year killed by pitbull type dogs.

Media spin and fear mongering = this "pitbull issue".  As I showed above, you have a FAR greater chance to be killed by lightning than by a pitbull.  All the op did by posting those stats was show that death by pitbull is not something anyone should be worried about.

Lets start blaming the people who have the most influence on how a dogs acts, their owners.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: MisterMagoo on May 23, 2009, 04:33:45 PM
I used to jog alot in my old neighborhood..  there were no leashlaws at the time, unfortunatly. So many houses I would jog past would have a dog in the yard snarling, growling, barking and trying to get over the fence at me... I noticed they all resmbled some sort of rott/pit or some variation of the two. (seemed like everyone had one)Two or three occasions was chased by them...I dont think they wanted to play.. at that point I gave up running outdoors and got myself a treadmill.

It seems to be irresponsible ownership combined with the temperament of this breed.. pits/rotts I notice do seem to be prone to aggressive behavior or easily have that tendency. Ive never had a bad experience with any other breed of dog. Having said that I wouldnt trust ANY dog alone with a small child. All animals can be very unpredictable. Birds, cats, dogs, reptiles...  why do people always insist on testing this???

I'm no dog expert.. far from it. But if you keep hearing stories like this over and over... there is going to be an element of truth to it. Chances are, it is not made up baloney. There is a reason why people breed these dogs to fight and/or protect property... they DO have an aggressive dominant nature. I think they make wonderful pets with tons of personality, to an owner who is very loving, attentive, and caring... but not for just any idiot.

the thing is, the same behaviour that's considered "vicious" in a pit/rottie is just "annoying" if it's, say, a yorkie. the "cuter" breeds might growl, yap, and jump around like crazy but no one's really scared. you get a rottweiler that's just up on a fence going "HAY! HAY! LET ME OUTTA HERE, WE CAN PLAY FETCH!" and people are running around howling about how it's a terrifying scary monster.

it's like how people are always bitching at my bulldog because i don't always have him on a leash (meaning if i'm outside sitting on the porch he'll just be chillling with me). they say "well that breed was made to fight bulls, obviously it's mean". bullshit.

how often is the owner of the dog a factor in these stories? i'd say always. you get a guy whose pit is a killer chomping on babies' faces, go back in time and give him a great dane or a husky and guaranteed the same thing will happen down the road. it's like saying "all children behave like X". they don't.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 04:41:49 PM

I want to look at these stats again.  Ok, so lets say "pitbull" type breeds = 5 different breeds + the Rot's.  In total this group of dogs was responsible for roughly 115 deaths over the last 20 years.  Since they've grouped Rots in with the "pitbull types", lets say half of the 115 totals deaths were caused by "pitbull type" dogs.  So, 57.5 deaths over the last 20 years (2.8 per year) were caused by "pitbull" type dogs.  As I mentioned, lightning kills roughly 67 people per year.  Over 20 years lighting kills roughly 1340 people or 67 per year, vs the 2.8 per year killed by pitbull type dogs.

Media spin and fear mongering = this "pitbull issue".  As I showed above, you have a FAR greater chance to be killed by lightning than by a pitbull.  All the op did by posting those stats was show that death by pitbull is not something anyone should be worried about.

Lets start blaming the people who have the most influence on how a dogs acts, their owners.

LET'S BAN LIGHTNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 04:43:47 PM
the thing is, the same behaviour that's considered "vicious" in a pit/rottie is just "annoying" if it's, say, a yorkie. the "cuter" breeds might growl, yap, and jump around like crazy but no one's really scared. you get a rottweiler that's just up on a fence going "HAY! HAY! LET ME OUTTA HERE, WE CAN PLAY FETCH!" and people are running around howling about how it's a terrifying scary monster.

it's like how people are always bitching at my bulldog because i don't always have him on a leash (meaning if i'm outside sitting on the porch he'll just be chillling with me). they say "well that breed was made to fight bulls, obviously it's mean". bullshit.

how often is the owner of the dog a factor in these stories? i'd say always. you get a guy whose pit is a killer chomping on babies' faces, go back in time and give him a great dane or a husky and guaranteed the same thing will happen down the road. it's like saying "all children behave like X". they don't.

well, like i said...dont trust any animal. I used to LOVE Steve Irwin, til he dangled his infant in front of a croc. I didnt hate the man, but I couldnt be a fan after that.

usually a dog baring its teeth, and snarling loudly, and trying to get over the fence, is not a dog that wants to play...and when a larger, stout dog acts that way, its very differnt than a small yappy dog acting that way.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 04:51:05 PM
well, like i said...dont trust any animal. I used to LOVE Steve Irwin, til he dangled his infant in front of a croc. I didnt hate the man, but I couldnt be a fan after that.

usually a dog baring its teeth, and snarling loudly, and trying to get over the fence, is not a dog that wants to play...and when a larger, stout dog acts that way, its very differnt than a small yappy dog acting that way.

Dog meat stew.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 05:00:34 PM
Dog meat stew.

 :-X  couldnt do it.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 23, 2009, 05:06:41 PM
:-X  couldnt do it.

It's actually delicious. I love it. :)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
Harrison didnt go in 2006 when they won the Superbowl either. I think its great. Fuck Obama. He even said at the ceremony he was a Bears fan. Who cares about meeting the President? They show Osama at a basketball game but did he go to a Washington Capitals hockey game in his own back yard???? NO. Good for Harrison......Go STEELERS ;D
His son would not have gotten bitten if he would have checked his idiotic hubris at the door and met Obama.  I bet he wishes he and his family would have went to the Whitehouse instead of the emergency room, ending up with a permanently disfigured child.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 06:14:50 PM
I used to jog alot in my old neighborhood..  there were no leashlaws at the time, unfortunatly. So many houses I would jog past would have a dog in the yard snarling, growling, barking and trying to get over the fence at me... I noticed they all resmbled some sort of rott/pit or some variation of the two. (seemed like everyone had one)Two or three occasions was chased by them...I dont think they wanted to play.. at that point I gave up running outdoors and got myself a treadmill.

It seems to be irresponsible ownership combined with the temperament of this breed.. pits/rotts I notice do seem to be prone to aggressive behavior or easily have that tendency. Ive never had a bad experience with any other breed of dog. Having said that I wouldnt trust ANY dog alone with a small child. All animals can be very unpredictable. Birds, cats, dogs, reptiles...  why do people always insist on testing this???

I'm no dog expert.. far from it. But if you keep hearing stories like this over and over... there is going to be an element of truth to it. Chances are, it is not made up baloney. There is a reason why people breed these dogs to fight and/or protect property... they DO have an aggressive dominant nature. I think they make wonderful pets with tons of personality, to an owner who is very loving, attentive, and caring... but not for just any idiot.
Dogs have prey drive and if you are actively running by them, some will certainly track you.  My Greyhounds would definitely do this.  You do realize you could easily plan a different route to run or you could walk in front of the dogs you feel threatened by as to not excite their prey drive.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 23, 2009, 06:24:59 PM
(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/d6_196.jpg)

(http://www.petget.com/prh/files/d3_391.jpg)


Ugly, disgusting animals.

What is the point of having these. This is like when people have snakes and scorpions for pets.

Ridiculous.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 23, 2009, 06:42:40 PM
I like how no one really had anything intelligent to say except Body88 and a few others, but that should be expected.  If you want hard, scientific data, check out this site:

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/

Most dangerous dog is the english cocker spaniel.

and on the american temperment testing society webpage, pits rate higher than countless popular breeds, like the beagle and the golden retriever.

www.atts.org

And I work with the group that rescued those Vick dogs (body88 can confirm this), and I can easily gaurantee not one will have a problem.  Amazing dogs with very short memories.

Of course,.... just so happens their opinions match yours, eh?

Using the numbers argument saying pits are safer than cockker spaniels is like saying a BMW is less stealable than a Honda Accord. The reason the Accords are the #1 thieved car is because they are the #1 most prevalent car in the country. If there were as many pitbulls as cocker spaniels, there would be thousands more attacks.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 07:03:24 PM
Dogs have prey drive and if you are actively running by them, some will certainly track you.  My Greyhounds would definitely do this.  You do realize you could easily plan a different route to run or you could walk in front of the dogs you feel threatened by as to not excite their prey drive.

you cannot easliy plan a differnt route when they are all over the neighborhood....  :-\

walk in front of them?  ??? look.. thanks for the suggestions... but I dont believe Im going to manipulate the mind and try to predict the actions of a strange animal that clearly does not have good intentions. Rediculous. Mind you.. at the time I was pregant!

Im just minding my own business enjoying a jog and fresh air, like any taxpaying free citizen in this country should be able to do. Its unfortunate due to some assholes and their dogs I was unable to do this! OH WELL >:(


MORAL OF THE STORY:  assholes and irresponsible idiots should not own pets, let alone potentially dangerous ones!
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 23, 2009, 07:16:28 PM
you cannot easliy plan a differnt route when they are all over the neighborhood....  :-\

walk in front of them?  ??? look.. thanks for the suggestions... but I dont believe Im going to manipulate the mind and try to predict the actions of a strange animal that clearly does not have good intentions. Rediculous.

Im just minding my own business enjoying a jog and fresh air, like any free taxpaying citizen in this country should be able to do. Its unfortunate due to some assholes and their dogs I was unable to do this! OH WELL >:(


MORAL OF THE STORY:  assholes and irresponsible idiots should not own pets, let alone potentially dangerous ones!


Oh but the dogs are nice. You're the asshole for not liking them, even if they ARE a threat to your safety..

Right?   ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 07:25:42 PM
you cannot easliy plan a differnt route when they are all over the neighborhood....  :-\

walk in front of them?  ??? look.. thanks for the suggestions... but I dont believe Im going to manipulate the mind and try to predict the actions of a strange animal that clearly does not have good intentions. Rediculous. Mind you.. at the time I was pregant!

Im just minding my own business enjoying a jog and fresh air, like any taxpaying free citizen in this country should be able to do. Its unfortunate due to some assholes and their dogs I was unable to do this! OH WELL >:(


MORAL OF THE STORY:  assholes and irresponsible idiots should not own pets, let alone potentially dangerous ones!

LMAO.......dog barking = danger..........hahahahh aaa

Oh but the dogs are nice. You're the asshole for not liking them, even if they ARE a threat to your safety..

Right?   ::)
Dog behind the fence barking = "threat to your safety"...........hahahhahaaaa



You guys are grasping at straws now, pathetic.

Oh, and it's spelled "ridiculous"..... ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 07:27:32 PM
Oh but the dogs are nice. You're the asshole for not liking them, even if they ARE a threat to your safety..

Right?   ::)

yep... dont mind me... i'll jsut keep running on my fcking hamster wheel in here so the dogs can roam free and terrorize the neighborhood..after all.. they have more rights than I do  :(
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 07:30:32 PM
LMAO.......dog barking = danger..........hahahahh aaa
Dog behind the fence barking = "threat to your safety"...........hahahhahaaaa



You guys are grasping at straws now, pathetic.

Oh, and it's spelled "ridiculous"..... ::)

uhhhh, i was referring to the times i actually got CHASED. I guess you missed that part  ::)  I can deal with barking dogs behind a fence. my point about the ones barking behind a fence was to point out their hostility and aggression...and that they all were the same type of breed. Pay attention!

I left out the part where I would hear on the news everyother week about someones child in the area getting mangled or killed by this particular breed. I will see what I can dig up.

I dont mean to offend any pitbull lovers out there..and I agree they can be great pets to the right type of people (as I stated previously.) They have a great deal of personality which I like.

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 23, 2009, 07:31:34 PM
Ya Chaos, since you can be sure the slim shady tough-guy owner who can't even figure out something so complicated as a belt is responsible enough to ensure their creature can't get out of the yard of their section-8 rental...

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 07:39:21 PM
Ya Chaos, since you can be sure the slim shady tough-guy owner who can't even figure out something so complicated as a belt is responsible enough to ensure their creature can't get out of the yard of their section-8 rental...


LOL sounds like you're familiar with that type of living situation.....

uhhhh, i was referring to the times i actually got CHASED. I guess you missed that part  ::)  I can deal with barking dogs behind a fence. my point about the ones barking behind a fence was to point out their hostility and aggression...and that they all were the same type of breed. Pay attention!

I left out the part where I would hear on the news everyother week about someones child in the area getting mangled or killed by this particular breed. I will see what I can dig up.
Maybe you should move to a better neighborhood were people can actually afford to keep their fences maintained well enough to hold their dogs. :-\

In all my life I have only had issues with cocker spaniels and poodles......never a Rot or a Pit....seems to me you people are living in or associating with ghetto types, I would suggest finding a whiter neighborhood. :)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 07:42:46 PM
LOL sounds like you're familiar with that type of living situation.....
Maybe you should move to a better neighborhood were people can actually afford to keep their fences maintained well enough to hold their dogs. :-\

In all my life I have only had issues with cocker spaniels and poodles......never a Rot or a Pit....seems to me you people are living in or associating with ghetto types, I would suggest finding a whiter neighborhood. :)

it was a white/redneck/middle class type of neighborhood. what difference does that make anyway? the problem was there was no leash laws & too many neglectful owners. The city was partially to blame for this. BTW chaos, where are you from? Have you lived in a neighborhood that was full of free roaming dogs?

I dont know about you but does it make financial (or any) sense to move away just for that reason? so free people ought to be driven out of their neighborhoods/ home because ppl in the area cant or dont care to control their dogs? fcking rediculous.

Im in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood now, where there ARE leash laws, and most ppl only own tiny, yappy dogs anyway.. so, problem solved. Now I run on the treadmill because of joint issues... Im not getting any younger (or lighter).  But it used to piss me off to no end that I could no longer go out for my afternoon jog.

anyway, you seemed to have missed my original point  :-\

whatever... peace!


Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 07:56:58 PM
I dont know about you but does it make financial (or any) sense to move away just for that reason? so free people ought to be driven out of their neighborhoods/ home because ppl in the area cant or dont care to control their dogs? fcking rediculous.

White people are driven from their neighborhoods constantly by black families that can't control their kids.....what's the difference?



I saw your original point, but I don't think it only applies to pits or rots.........any breed of dog can get out and chase you. ;)


Peace? haha Only if you post some more pics.... :P ;D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 08:28:08 PM
it was a white/redneck/middle class type of neighborhood. what difference does that make anyway? the problem was there was no leash laws & too many neglectful owners. The city was partially to blame for this. BTW chaos, where are you from? Have you lived in a neighborhood that was full of free roaming dogs?

I dont know about you but does it make financial (or any) sense to move away just for that reason? so free people ought to be driven out of their neighborhoods/ home because ppl in the area cant or dont care to control their dogs? fcking rediculous.

Im in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood now, where there ARE leash laws, and most ppl only own tiny, yappy dogs anyway.. so, problem solved. Now I run on the treadmill because of joint issues... Im not getting any younger (or lighter).  But it used to piss me off to no end that I could no longer go out for my afternoon jog.

anyway, you seemed to have missed my original point  :-\

whatever... peace!



Cardio is totally unnecessary.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 08:30:39 PM
Cardio is totally unnecessary.

unless you need to keep teh cellulite at bay!  :D
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: INSOMNIA on May 23, 2009, 08:34:41 PM
White people are driven from their neighborhoods constantly by black families that can't control their kids.....what's the difference?



I saw your original point, but I don't think it only applies to pits or rots.........any breed of dog can get out and chase you. ;)


Peace? haha Only if you post some more pics.... :P ;D

I never said it ONLY applies to them.. they just seem to be the fad dog of the era... & every idiot, and too many idiots, try to own them.

I'll post pics, but you first..mr. spelling Nazi! ;)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 23, 2009, 08:35:34 PM
unless you need to keep teh cellulite at bay!  :D
:) I was being silly.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 09:00:45 PM
I never said it ONLY applies to them.. they just seem to be the fad dog of the era... & every idiot, and too many idiots, try to own them.

I'll post pics, but you first..mr. spelling Nazi! ;)
My photoshopped pics are everywhere....... 8)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 23, 2009, 09:14:20 PM
Of course,.... just so happens their opinions match yours, eh?

Using the numbers argument saying pits are safer than cockker spaniels is like saying a BMW is less stealable than a Honda Accord. The reason the Accords are the #1 thieved car is because they are the #1 most prevalent car in the country. If there were as many pitbulls as cocker spaniels, there would be thousands more attacks.


I gaurantee there are many more pits in the US than cocker spaniels.  they (pits) are one of the most popular breeds around.   I work with dogs, i work with the pit rescue group that saved many of the vick dogs, I know what I am talking about, you don't.  You've obviously bought into the sensationalized media blitz and their quest for ratings.  Again, I brought hard scientific data to the arguement, you brought ignorance.

And, like I said before, the socioeconomic consistencies involved with pit bull attacks (blacks, mexicans, and white trash) are more indicative of the real problem.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 23, 2009, 09:34:30 PM
I gaurantee there are many more pits in the US than cocker spaniels.  they (pits) are one of the most popular breeds around.   I work with dogs, i work with the pit rescue group that saved many of the vick dogs, I know what I am talking about, you don't.  You've obviously bought into the sensationalized media blitz and their quest for ratings.  Again, I brought hard scientific data to the arguement, you brought ignorance.

And, like I said before, the socioeconomic consistencies involved with pit bull attacks (blacks, mexicans, and white trash) are more indicative of the real problem.
LOL, laying down another brutally truthful beating.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
Look at the white trailer trash defending their dogs.......
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 10:07:34 PM
Look at the white trailer trash defending their dogs.......


What are you pulling in per year "webcke"? 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 10:13:25 PM

What are you pulling in per year "webcke"? 

I still live at home with my parents.....
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 10:21:08 PM
I still live at home with my parents.....

I'm not fucking with you.  What do you do for a living?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 10:22:25 PM
I'm not fucking with you.  What do you do for a living?

I'm a Personal Trainer, though i am still studying, so work is part time right now.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 10:29:01 PM
I'm a Personal Trainer, though i am still studying, so work is part time right now.

Can we agree that I could stereotype you into the typical 20k a year meatball, "pt" who trains "clients" at a gym, because he/she never applied themselves in a way to make real money?  You don't seem like that type of guy. I would bet your ambitions are much higher than that, correct?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 10:32:05 PM
Can we agree that I could stereotype you into the typical 20k a year meatball who trains clients at a gym, because he/she never applied themselves in a way to make real money?  You don't seem like that type of guy. I would bet your ambitions are much higher than that, correct?

Of course. Both my parents are real estate agents and are fucking loaded, if i do say so myself.

Personal Training = only temporary. Real estate is where i will end up.

What about you champ, still pulling in millions?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
Of course. Both my parents are real estate agents and are fucking loaded, if i do say so myself.

Personal Training = only temporary. Real estate is where i will end up.

What about you champ, still pulling in millions?

No, I was making a point..... I don't stereotype people much.  You just proved my mock accusation incorrect, which is why I didn't post it as a rebuttal to your first post..  You're a student who pt's on a part time basis while you study to make something out of your life.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 10:39:32 PM
No, I was making a point..... I don't stereotype people much.  You just proved my above accusation incorrect, which is why I didn't post it as a rebuttal to your first post.

First post = joke aimed at Chaos.

Lighten up champ, it ain't that serious.....
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 23, 2009, 10:43:58 PM
First post = joke aimed at Chaos.

Lighten up champ, it ain't that serious.....


I'm "light".  Nothing wrong with a little sparing via post here and there.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 23, 2009, 10:44:58 PM
LOL sounds like you're familiar with that type of living situation.....
Maybe you should move to a better neighborhood were people can actually afford to keep their fences maintained well enough to hold their dogs. :-\

In all my life I have only had issues with cocker spaniels and poodles......never a Rot or a Pit....seems to me you people are living in or associating with ghetto types, I would suggest finding a whiter neighborhood. :)

I used to live in a neighborhood that got overrun by hispanics. Every night half the hood would kick their goddamn dogs (pitbulls included, but about every other type you can think of too) out onto the street. It made the neighborhood a mess, trash cans knocked over (dontcha hate that Chaos?  ;)), yards dug up, noise all night, dog shit all over everything.

Amazing how a little hamburger soaked in antifreeze in the trash can every once in awhile worked...
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: webcake on May 23, 2009, 10:47:08 PM

I'm "light".  Nothing wrong with a little sparing via post here and there.

I guess not...
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 23, 2009, 11:09:42 PM
I used to live in a neighborhood that got overrun by hispanics. Every night half the hood would kick their goddamn dogs (pitbulls included, but about every other type you can think of too) out onto the street. It made the neighborhood a mess, trash cans knocked over (dontcha hate that Chaos?  ;)), yards dug up, noise all night, dog shit all over everything.

Amazing how a little hamburger soaked in antifreeze in the trash can every once in awhile worked...

oh wow... what a monster you are ::)  telling people on the internet the deluded little fantasies you had when you lived amongst trashy people. 

uneducated people, minorities and white trash, don't know how to raise dogs, and these are the ones who want pits.  the owners are the variables, not the dogs.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: lovemonkey on May 24, 2009, 03:55:58 AM
Of course,.... just so happens their opinions match yours, eh?

Using the numbers argument saying pits are safer than cockker spaniels is like saying a BMW is less stealable than a Honda Accord. The reason the Accords are the #1 thieved car is because they are the #1 most prevalent car in the country. If there were as many pitbulls as cocker spaniels, there would be thousands more attacks.


The statistics I've read are corrected for the number of dogs per breed. I think it was the total amount of bites per hundred dog. And pitbull was out of the top 30.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 08:42:20 AM
No, I was making a point..... I don't stereotype people much.  You just proved my mock accusation incorrect, which is why I didn't post it as a rebuttal to your first post..  You're a student who pt's on a part time basis while you study to make something out of your life.
"Make something out of your life".  What a moronic, knuckle-dragging axiom.  Your criteria for judgment of "success" is based solely on how many trinkets he may be able to purchase and will only "make something out of his life" once he enters the realm of indentured slavery.

Why do you care so much his trinket purchasing power and how does it encapsulate his entire existence?  How can you even begin to know a persons thoughts, feelings and intelligence just by judging on his ability to purchase a trinket?

Is it safe to say you judge yourself by how many trinkets you can afford and how quickly you are able to afford them?  Is this the sole importance that takes precedence over everything in your life?

Why the extreme and intimate love affair with gross consumerism above everything else?


Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: mass 04 on May 24, 2009, 09:15:52 AM
haha "trinkets" cracks me up everytime.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 24, 2009, 09:47:43 AM
Look at the white trailer trash defending their dogs.......
When can I expect my roo skin shoes?

I wear a size 12.....
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 24, 2009, 09:52:16 AM
"Make something out of your life".  What a moronic, knuckle-dragging axiom.  Your criteria for judgment of "success" is based solely on how many trinkets he may be able to purchase and will only "make something out of his life" once he enters the realm of indentured slavery.

Why do you care so much his trinket purchasing power and how does it encapsulate his entire existence?  How can you even begin to know a persons thoughts, feelings and intelligence just by judging on his ability to purchase a trinket?

Is it safe to say you judge yourself by how many trinkets you can afford and how quickly you are able to afford them?  Is this the sole importance that takes precedence over everything in your life?

Why the extreme and intimate love affair with gross consumerism above everything else?



What criteria do you apply to consider wether or not a person is successful?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 24, 2009, 10:46:43 AM
oh wow... what a monster you are ::)  telling people on the internet the deluded little fantasies you had when you lived amongst trashy people. 

uneducated people, minorities and white trash, don't know how to raise dogs, and these are the ones who want pits.  the owners are the variables, not the dogs.

Hey queerboy. That logic don't apply to the gun-control situation, and it don't apply here. These dogs are passive (and sometimes active) weapons. Since the people who typically have them cannot be reigned in, the means need to be mitigated.

There is no reason anyone needs a machine gun, and there is no reason anyone needs a fighting dog breed.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 24, 2009, 10:55:34 AM
Hey queerboy. That logic don't apply to the gun-control situation, and it don't apply here. These dogs are passive (and sometimes active) weapons. Since the people who typically have them cannot be reigned in, the means need to be mitigated.

There is no reason anyone needs a machine gun, and there is no reason anyone needs a fighting dog breed.
They were never intended to fight, there is no such thing as a "fighting dog breed"....

Do you know anything about dogs or are you just repeating what the news tells you?

Nevermind, I can tell from your posts.

Carry on.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 11:03:43 AM
What criteria do you apply to consider wether or not a person is successful?
I don`t judge people`s "success" (an overly broad term which is rather meaningless) as that would be putting whatever bias and standards which may not coincide with the judged so it is useless and futile to render a verdict. I believe that is up to the individual to consider as they are the only ones who can set forth and accomplish goals they determine pertinent.


Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 24, 2009, 11:24:57 AM
They were never intended to fight, there is no such thing as a "fighting dog breed"....

Do you know anything about dogs or are you just repeating what the news tells you?

Nevermind, I can tell from your posts.

Carry on.

How many cocker spaniel or heeler fighting rings have you heard of dude?

Do the mexicans and negros and tapout princes fight with Pomerianians? Labs?

What do they always use?

Saying the pitbull breed is not a fighting dog is like saying a Corvette isn't a sports car.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 24, 2009, 11:41:37 AM
How many cocker spaniel or heeler fighting rings have you heard of dude?

Do the mexicans and negros and tapout princes fight with Pomerianians? Labs?

What do they always use?

Saying the pitbull breed is not a fighting dog is like saying a Corvette isn't a sports car.
No fuckwit, pitbulls are used for fighting, the breed was not intended to fight other dogs.

It's like taking your corvette and loading it with trash to take to the dump.


I don`t judge people`s "success" (an overly broad term which is rather meaningless) as that would be putting whatever bias and standards which may not coincide with the judged so it is useless and futile to render a verdict. I believe that is up to the individual to consider as they are the only ones who can set forth and accomplish goals they determine pertinent.



OK, but other people use the goal of money and trinkets to assume someone is successful.



Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 11:43:56 AM
No fuckwit, pitbulls are used for fighting, the breed was not intended to fight other dogs.

It's like taking your corvette and loading it with trash to take to the dump.

OK, but other people use the goal of money and trinkets to assume someone is successful.





Is that your criteria?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: ToxicAvenger on May 24, 2009, 01:01:04 PM
everytime a pit bull bites a child of a pitbull owner its just darwanism trying to keep idiots from breeding..

its a GOOD thing  :)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 24, 2009, 01:50:40 PM
"Make something out of your life".  What a moronic, knuckle-dragging axiom.  Your criteria for judgment of "success" is based solely on how many trinkets he may be able to purchase and will only "make something out of his life" once he enters the realm of indentured slavery.

Why do you care so much his trinket purchasing power and how does it encapsulate his entire existence?  How can you even begin to know a persons thoughts, feelings and intelligence just by judging on his ability to purchase a trinket?

Is it safe to say you judge yourself by how many trinkets you can afford and how quickly you are able to afford them?  Is this the sole importance that takes precedence over everything in your life?

Why the extreme and intimate love affair with gross consumerism above everything else?




Why do you care so much about my definition of success?
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 24, 2009, 02:21:36 PM
Is that your criteria?
Nope, don't care about financial status or trinkets.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 24, 2009, 02:58:40 PM
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/running_for_their_lives_the_realities_of_greyhound_racing/greyhound_racing_facts.html (http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/running_for_their_lives_the_realities_of_greyhound_racing/greyhound_racing_facts.html)


seems the Humane Society deems greyhound racing as abusive....but not to worry, surely Adonis's psuedo-intelluctual rants and random google picture posting disprove their findings

(http://www.brightonanimalaction.org/heads.JPG)
(http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/images/uglytruth.JPG)

Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:11:11 PM
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/running_for_their_lives_the_realities_of_greyhound_racing/greyhound_racing_facts.html (http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/running_for_their_lives_the_realities_of_greyhound_racing/greyhound_racing_facts.html)


seems the Humane Society deems greyhound racing as abusive....but not to worry, surely Adonis's psuedo-intelluctual rants and random google picture posting disprove their findings

(http://www.brightonanimalaction.org/heads.JPG)
(http://www.greyhounds.org/gpl/images/uglytruth.JPG)


::)

I don`t feel like wasting the time correcting the myths. 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:12:45 PM
GREYHOUND RACING MYTHS DEBUNKED!
by Martin Roper & Dennis McKeon
"Greyhounds are overbred"  or  “An estimated 10,000 to 50,000 greyhounds are born every year ...”
There is no need to estimate how many greyhounds are whelped annually in the U.S.   In 2004, 26,262 were registered and in 2003 it was 26,277. The National Greyhound Association has published exact figures for decades.  Breeding has been on the decline for several years and 2005 whelpings are expected to be down 20 percent from last year.
“Most of those don't cut the mustard for the track.”
Most greyhounds do make it at the track. Eighty percent of all greyhounds win a Maiden race and embark on a racing career. Of the remaining 20 percent, not all are failures. Many females are retained for breeding without ever going to the track.
"20,000, 30,000, 50,000 greyhounds are killed annually"
More than 90 percent of racing greyhounds are either adopted as pets upon retirement or returned to their owners for breeding. It is estimated that more than 18,000 are adopted annually through groups and a further 5,000 are retained by their owners. Greyhound Pets of America, the world's largest adoption group, estimates that full adoption can be reached as early as 2007, an achievement few popular breeds can claim.
"They're fed 4D Meat" or  "Greyhounds are fed rotten meat"
Anti-Racing groups frequently point to the fact that racing greyhounds are fed meat from, “dead, diseased, dying or disabled” cattle as evidence of abuse because it causes so-called “Alabama Rot” that kills many greyhounds. The truth is that when meat is purchased from a reliable packing facility and handled correctly, the possibility of occurrence of E. Coli infection is extremely small and incidences of Alabama Rot are rare.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture has strict rules that regulate the source of meat approved for human consumption. Animals that do not meet those restrictions are designated 4D whether or not any of the above adjectives describe the reason for being considered unfit for humans. 4D meat is the primary ingredient in most pet foods, even premium brands. Pet food is cooked which kills the E. Coli bacteria, but also alters its nutritional composition. All attempts to replicate the diets of racing dogs with cooked food have resulted in failure. Racing greyhounds simply do not perform as well on a commercial diet as on one partially composed of raw meat. Many pet owners of a variety of breeds have converted to a B.A.R.F. (Bones and Raw Food) diet similar to typical racing greyhound fare.
When handled in a safe manner, from the packing plant to the feed bowl, raw meat has proven safe and effective. Qual-Pet, the largest supplier of meat to greyhound farms and kennels, has more than 40 years’ experience in the preparation and distribution of meat. The meat is frozen immediately upon grinding and delivered frozen to its outlets. The meat is stored in freezers by farmers and trainers until it is needed and then thawed before it is mixed with other forms of feed and supplements. The E. Coli bacteria is not uncommon nor necessarily dangerous in small amounts. Indeed, the strain of E. Coli that causes Alabama Rot is found naturally in a variety of foods ranging from apples to alfalfa sprouts. Only when mishandled and allowed to multiply in meat that has not been refrigerated for a long period of time does it begin to pose a danger.
In a similar example of fear mongering, one group even attempted to mislead the public by proclaiming that greyhounds were in danger of exposure to Mad Cow Disease via 4D meat. The truth, of course, is different. All cattle raised in America, regardless of whether their meat is destined for human or pet consumption, are tracked by the USDA and after they are slaughtered samples are collected and tested for Mad Cow. Greyhounds in the U.S. have no more chance of contracting Mad Cow Disease than do humans. 
Greyhounds Are Given Performance Enhancing Drugs Greyhound racing is strictly regulated by the states where it exists. There is a state-approved vet and a state judge on premises, in addition to the track judge and other officials. Prior to weigh in, the greyhounds must pass before the judges and the vet on hand, all of whom have the option to examine and/or scratch any dog whom they feel is unfit to race for any reason.
After the race, urine samples are collected from the winner and/or the second place and last place finishers, with an additional random sample taken, depending upon the custom in the locality. Their urine is tested in independent, contracted laboratories, by means of ultra sensitive gas-chromatography. If any illegal substances are found to be present in the urine of the greyhound, the trainer is suspended and fined, and the kennel can be suspended, depending upon the decision of the judges at the hearing, which the offending parties must attend. A second offense can lead to the trainer's permanent suspension, and/or the revocation of the kennel's right to compete.
Incidentally, there has never been a successfully prosecuted criminal case involving a licensed greyhound professional and the use of illegal, performance enhancing or performance inhibiting drugs, in the entire history of greyhound racing in the USA.
"Their tiny crates give them only enough room to turn around" or "They spend 22 hours in a crate daily"
I often thought, when I was a trainer of racing greyhounds, and performing my daily chores of changing of shaking out and fluffing the bedding, and sweeping out and disinfecting upwards of 50 crates every morning, that there must be a better way. This is so much work. Then, after the beds are all done, and the crates are ready for their tenants to come in from turnout, to root around and happily nest in the fluffy paper, I’d have to begin the process of slitting fresh beds for the next day. There was no end to it.
Anti-racing and animal rights activists condemn the use of crates in the racing kennel, and like to refer to them as “cages”, for the negative connotation that the word conveys. Naturally, none of these people has ever been in charge of 50 or more greyhounds, and the vast majority of them have not been any closer to a racing kennel than I have to the Bunnies’ changing rooms at the Playboy Mansion.
The mythology they have developed, depicts the standard crate that is used in the racing kennel as being cramped, and too small to allow the greyhound to be even somewhat comfortable, never mind to actually stretch out. Think about that for a minute. You are the trainer of a kennel of 50 or more extremely valuable racing greyhounds. Their success at earning purses when racing, which determines your career success and what you will earn, is considerably predicated on the conditioning of their extraordinary muscles. Their accommodations must allow them to relax in time of repose, and provide ample creature comfort so that their muscles and bodies can rest, recovering from the exertions of exercise and racing performance. So naturally, in the warped and narcissistic world of the anti-racing bigot, the first thing you do, is stuff them in crates that are too small and stiflingly cramped, and which will induce anxiety, neurosis, and claustrophobia. Makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?
I don’t recall ever working in a racing kennel where the crates were not large enough for someone my size ----and I’m 6’1’’ tall---- to crawl in, curl up, and spend the night in relative comfort, and I did so on many occasions. The standard racing kennel crate is 3’x3’x4’, which affords even the largest, rangiest greyhound free and unfettered movement, and the ability to stretch his muscles, and to lie on their backs and “roach”….. which is the terminology that retired greyhound pet owners use to describe the blissful position that greyhounds assume, on their backs, with their feet in the air.
The crates are usually arranged in a manner that allows the trainer a frontal view of all the greyhounds, as they centrally perform their daily routines of grooming, massaging, checking for injuries, whirlpooling and otherwise tending to the normal needs of active racing greyhounds. As the trainer works with his/her greyhounds, he/she can easily tell if something is amiss with anyone of their charges, because of this standard, economical crate arrangement. Any experienced trainer knows that any deviation from the norm, in the habitual behavior of their greyhounds, is cause for concern. Crating greyhounds in the traditional manner, allows the trainer to always be visually in touch with each dog in the kennel, and to observe them at all times during the normal training, caretaking routines.
"Breeders practice 'Puppy Culling'"
Most of Anti-Racing mythology is predicated on the flimsiest evidence, often based on an utter lack of knowledge of the first thing about dogs, let alone Greyhounds. One example is the belief in ?puppy culling,? the killing of young greyhounds because they do not demonstrate the ability to win at the track.
One group publishes that 7,000 to 8,000 puppies are culled annually, killed even before they are registered because they are too slow. Their numbers are based on the number of total litters bred annually, which in Greyhounds average 6.5 pups each.
For any given year they multiply the number of litters reported in Greyhound Review by 6.5 and subtract the total number of registrations. Using figures from 2000 as an example, they simply subtract 26,464 registered pups from the estimated 34,141 whelped and assume that the 7,677 unregistered pups were "culled."
What they fail to take into account is that every birth, whether stillborn or not, every puppy, whether it dies in infancy or not, is factored into that 34,141 figure. According to the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine, overall pre-weaning puppy mortality is typically 30-45%, and the rate of stillborns is 10%. Of course, one would expect that experienced Greyhound breeders could achieve somewhat lower figures, but it is clear that well-known puppy mortality rates are not factored into AR figures at all.
"Puppy culling" is one of the central myths in the Anti-Racing movement. It is the only way they can make their numbers work (see ?20,000 Killed?). The truth is that there is no possible reason to cull puppies in greyhounds. In show dogs, occasionally puppies with a coat color that is not to the breed standard are culled. The only time a puppy will be euthanized at a greyhound farm is when it is born so sickly or injured so badly that its survivability is in doubt and the only question is how much suffering it will endure.
A good brood prospect will cost $1,000 to more than $10,000. Breeding to a top sire adds another $1,000 to $3,000. Insemination fees start at $250. With up-front costs that start at more than $2,000, and could easily exceed $12,000, it doesn't make economic sense to cull the results. Further, pups at recent NGA auctions fetched $2,500 to more than $70,000. Why would someone deprive themselves of this income potential?
The belief in culling by the AR movement is confounding and illogical. It reveals its adherents as lacking the most fundamental understanding of the breeding and raising of Greyhounds. 
"The dogs get no personal attention"
I remember when I first met Hugh Carney, a part- owner and Racing Secretary of the the Seabook, NH racetrack, and himself a former thoroughbred trainer.
When we shook hands, he shouted out to the others present, "Now here's a man who knows how to work with his dogs!". I knew what he meant right away, and took the compliment gladly.
You see, he could tell I was a hands-on trainer, by the extreme roughness of my hands, which were that way because of the strong liniments a trainer uses to rub down and massage his greyhounds. He knew that because of his own background with horses.
Naturally, a trainer has to treat each greyhound as an individual athlete and personality, which is precisely what they are. They all have their own quirks and routines, which a smart trainer picks up on, and uses to make them more comfortable and relaxed. A trainer wants to make every greyhound in his kennel, irrespective of their abilities, feel like they are an All American caliber racer.
Their personalities develop from moment one, on the farm, where they are whelped and bred, under the auspices and multi-daily ministrations of the breeder, their families, and the farm employees. Greyhounds are usually always intimately familiar with at least a half a dozen people during their early upbringing, where they are raised in a natural "pack" situation, remaining with their mothers far longer than the whelps of any other breed.
They have constant human interaction, as any other dog would, but with more of a focus on playing "chasing" games, as they are gradually encouraged to engage in this natural behavior as often as is safely and constructively possible, right up to the time they are ready to begin racetrack preparations.
They are groomed and trained to lead and walk like any other dog, and periodically, go to see their friend the veterinarian, like any other dog.
At about a year, to 13 months of age, most are introduced to a kennel environment that is a rough simulation of the racing kennels they will enter in the not-too-distant future. They begin, also, to "school" for racing, in earnest. Bi-weekly visits to the training track are the norm, where they encounter new people and strange greyhounds.
When they are ready to begin their racing careers, they meet their new handlers, and, at the racetrack, they encounter the judges, the vet, the scale clerks, the leadouts and the public----twice a week, at most tracks.
Their racing regimen includes grooming and rubdowns the day before, the day of and the day after a race, as well as exercise in between races, if necessary. They have abundant kennel mates and kennel help with whom to interact, and seldom spend a day when they are not the center of attention for their part of it.
People come to visit the kennel all the time, often the owners of the greyhound, or other trainers....and many trainers' spouses and/or children are often involved in doing some of the kennel chores.
Greyhounds are pretty much thoroughly socialized by the time they get to the track, and almost always, when they are ready for retirement. What anti-racing groups, in their relentless and ill-conceived propaganda, often cite as "lack of socialization", is actually a matter of habituation.
All canines are creatures of habit. They like routine, and they like punctuality. Trainers learn this in the very earliest stages of their careers, if they wish to have a career.
When a racing greyhound is sent to an adoptive family, he must cope with a monumental paradigm change and upheaval in his routine, with which he has become thoroughly comfortable over the course of his racing career.
Everything he encounters in his new environment is strange to him, from the intimidating stairs he will learn to negotiate, to the couch he will soon claim as his own. The greyhound has to become habituated to his new routine and his new home environment.
The fact that greyhounds are able to, in most cases, make this quantum leap of habituation without too much difficulty, is a tribute to their high levels of socialization, and the trust they have learned to place in the humans that they had previously known.
Anti-racing ideologues commonly mistake issues of socialization with the challenges of paradigm change and habituation in their diatribes and propaganda. Whether this is a matter of complete ignorance, or of purposefully contrived disinformation, it is food for thought, either way, considering their irresponsible agenda.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:16:05 PM
HSUS also calls for the cessation of breeding Pitbulls and has a goal to end Horse Racing.  ::)
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:19:05 PM
"Born to Run" video - History of the Greyhound. Brief overview of racing and training:

http://www.skipsracingproject.com/btr.wmv

Part of "Born to Run" was filmed at Project Racing Home

History of the Greyhound and Greyhound Racing
by Tim Horan
The Greyhound Review, February 2006

http://www.ngagreyhounds.com/History.asp

List of Greyhound Racetracks:

http://www.ngagreyhounds.com/trackInfo.asp

Here is some racing terminology:

http://petget.com/prh/viewtopic.php?t=2916

The Greyhound Racetracks
Each racetrack is licensed by the state racing commission to conduct pari-mutuel Greyhound racing in accordance with the rules set forth by the state racing commission. The racetrack does not own, breed, buy, sell or race any Greyhounds.

The Contract Kennel
The kennels are contracted by the track to race Greyhounds. Each kennel agrees to provide a number of active Greyhounds, usually 30 to 50 in number, to race at the track. In return, the track provides kennel space on the grounds for the Greyhounds to be housed. The kennel receives purses based on a percentage of the mutuel handle and the performance of the Greyhounds. Some contract kennels own all of the Greyhounds they race, while others lease the bulk of their Greyhounds.

The Greyhound Owner
The owners are either breeders, or they purchase Greyhounds from breeders. Some Greyhounds are bought as young pups, while others are bought when they are ready to race. The price of Greyhounds varies according to age and breeding. When Greyhounds are ready to race, they are then leased to a kennel who is contracted by the track. From this point on, the kennel is responsible for all expenses incurred for the caring of these Greyhounds and the kennel then pays the owner a percentage (usually 35 percent) of the purses the Greyhounds earn.

Greyhound Review Magazine Online (FREE):

http://www.ngagreyhounds.com/Review.asp

Kennel Inspections:

mms://rodan.implex.net/alliedvaughn/RayDion/Inspection_300k.wmv

Greyhound Training:

mms://rodan.implex.net/alliedvaughn/RayDion/RaceTraining_300k.wmv

Greyhound Hall of Fame and Museum:

http://www.greyhoundhalloffame.com

Greyhound Nationals Meets in Abilene, Kansas:

http://www.ngagreyhounds.com/Meets.asp

National Greyhound Association:

http://www.ngagreyhounds.com

Speed Records:

http://www.ngagreyhounds.com/Records.asp

The American Greyhound Council maintains an on-line library of international published scientific data on various research findings related to greyhounds. It includes material from scientific journals, books or proceedings. The research covers topics such as musculature, reproduction, orthopedics, injuries and repair, physiology, training and management, drugs, genetics, nutrition, behavior, diseases, and performance.

Currently the database, now in its sixth edition, includes nearly 1,700 separate citations. It is edited by Drs. Linda L. Blythe and A. Morrie Craig, both internationally recognized veterinarians. To access the International Greyhound Research Database on-line go to http://www.agcouncil.com/search.cfm

The basics of owing a racing Greyhound:

http://www.ngagreyhounds.com/BUYERSGUIDE.ASP?KEY=responsibilities

Here is Derby Lane's replay website:

http://www.derbylane.com/replays.html

1. Select the date of the race you want to see
2. Select the race card that the race is on. Afternoon, Evening, or Schooling.
3. Select the race number.

The video will not appear until all 3 steps are completed.

Also, the video may not appear if your browser blocks popup windows.

All Rosnet tracks have video and replays available on their websites.

Introduction to iGAP

The internet Greyhound Access Program connects you and your PC to the largest collection of Greyhound Racing Data available in the U.S.! iGAP is a free download and a subscription service. Just a few of the features included in the program are: Printable daily racing programs and results from the best race tracks in the U.S., the ability to research the history on more then 300,000 greyhounds from over 15 years and growing, a fully functional and extremely dynamic replay theatre (showing INSTANT and HISTORICAL replays ON DEMAND!), lifetime greyhound tracking, an excellent variety of professional quality printouts, an expert collection of greyhound profiles and kennel reports, data downloading for personal use, member to member instant messaging, and year-round Racing data with a cost of less then .60 cents per day! Be sure to view the instructional tutorials available to the right.

https://www.rosnet2000.com/_newsite/igap.html

Virtual Kennel (FREE):

http://petget.com/prh/viewtopic.php?t=5130

Economic Impact of Racing:

http://www.agcouncil.com/racing.cfm?page=3
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Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:19:53 PM

http://www.agcouncil.com/racing.cfm?page=4

Racing in the U.S.


Regulation

All greyhound racing in the U.S. is regulated by state or county law. Racing commissions in each jurisdiction enforce laws designed to ensure the integrity of pari-mutuel racing and the welfare of greyhounds at every stage of their racing careers. Typically, they issue racing licenses, monitor revenues and tax collections, enforce administrative rules and discipline violators, and compliance with animal health and welfare rules. In some states, regulators also have jurisdiction over track-operated greyhound adoption programs.

Regulatory statutes in Florida, where about half of the nation's greyhound tracks are located, are typical of the laws that exist in most racing states. Here are some of the rules designed to ensure the proper treatment of racing greyhounds under Florida law:

Each track must employ a veterinarian who is licensed and in good standing with the state board of veterinary medicine.
Greyhounds must be examined by the track veterinarian before each race.
Greyhounds deemed unsound for racing must be scratched, and their condition reported to the racing steward.
Any illness with unusual symptoms must be reported to the track veterinarian.
All racing animals must be inoculated for infectious and contagious diseases.
Records must be maintained of all racing greyhounds treated and/or medicated.
Tracks must contribute a portion of their revenue to bona fide adoption organizations.
Information on regulatory rulings and links to most state racing regulatory bodies are available on-line from the North American Pari-Mutuel Regulators Association (NAPRA). Another national regulators association, Racing Commissioners International (ARCI), provides similar information on its web site.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:20:28 PM

http://www.agcouncil.com/welfare.cfm?page=1

Greyhound Welfare on the Farm
Greyhound ownership is very strictly regulated by the National Greyhound Association (NGA), which was founded in 1906 as the industry's official registry. Persons who own a racing or breeding greyhound must register with the NGA. They must agree to accept full responsibility for their greyhound's welfare at all times, or face severe consequences, including possible expulsion from the association. Such expulsion effectively means permanent banishment from participation in greyhound racing throughout the U.S.
The NGA has established comprehensive animal welfare guidelines for greyhound breeders and kennel operators. The guidelines cover:
Nutrition and diet
Kennel facilities
Housing
Exercise
Health management
Sanitation and disease control
Operational supervision
Each year, the nation's 800 greyhound breeding farms and kennels are subject to unannounced inspections by the American Greyhound Council to verify compliance with the industry's animal welfare guidelines. One full-time inspector travels the country continually. He is assisted by as many as 75 part-time inspectors who are frequently called upon to make unannounced visits to farms in their area.
The inspectors file written reports summarizing their findings. Minor violations are noted and corrected. Those who fail to correct the problems may be temporarily suspended from racing. More serious violations are addressed in hearings before the NGA's governing body. Those guilty of such violations can be banned from the sport for life.
More than 99% of all greyhound owners comply with the guidelines. Fewer than half of 1% of the 3,100 greyhound owners in the country are found guilty of serious violations each year.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:23:07 PM

http://www.agcouncil.com/welfare.cfm?page=2

In addition to state regulation, most tracks adopt their own rules, policies and procedures to ensure greyhound welfare. In exchange for the right to race their greyhounds at the track, kennel owners must sign contracts in which they agree to abide by all track rules, including those pertaining to animal welfare. If kennel owners violate these contract clauses, they stand to lose their track privileges and even their racing licenses.

Most track contracts require that:

Track-owned kennel facilities are kept clean, well-maintained and odor-free.
Greyhounds are handled by competent, trained personnel.
Greyhounds are treated humanely in compliance with track and state rules.
Proper precautions are taken to prevent the spread of contagious illnesses.
Penalties are imposed for the improper treatment or handling of greyhounds.
No live lures are used in training.
Tracks have been especially aggressive in establishing rules to protect retired greyhounds when they leave the track. Most require documentation that retired greyhounds are headed back to their owners or to a recognized adoption program before they can be released from the track.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:24:09 PM

http://www.agcouncil.com/standards.cfm

AMERICAN GREYHOUND TRACK OPERATORS
Statement of Standards and Principles
We, as members of the American Greyhound Track Operators Association, have pledged ourselves to the following standards and principles to ensure the responsible care and humane treatment of all racing greyhounds.

All greyhounds shall be housed in comfortable, clean, safe and well-ventilated kennels.
All greyhounds shall receive plentiful and healthful food and water.
All greyhounds shall be provided appropriate exercise in clean, safe turnout pens and sprint fields.
All greyhounds shall be trained using artificial lures.
All greyhounds shall receive prompt veterinary care.
All racetrack surfaces shall be groomed and maintained daily to ensure the health and safety of the racing greyhounds.
All greyhounds shall be trained and cared for by qualified, competent and responsible personnel according to established animal welfare guidelines.
All tracks shall enact policies and enforcement procedures that include penalties for violation of proper animal welfare procedures.
All member tracks shall require that proper documentation be filed with and approved by the Racing Secretary and/or General Manager of the track before any greyhound may be removed from track premises. The documentation shall confirm and verify that the greyhound in question has been:
Transferred to another greyhound racetrack for purposes of continued racing;
Returned to the original owner or breeding farm for pet or breeding purposes; or
Upon retirement, placed into an in-house, local or nationally recognized adoption program
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 03:25:40 PM
How old are greyhounds when they begin racing?
Most begin racing at about a year and a half, and continue to four years old. Some will race beyond their fifth birthday, and a select few past their sixth. Because they are generally well cared for and in excellent health, most greyhounds live to twelve years or older.

How are greyhounds trained to race?
Greyhounds begin training at about a year old. They run and chase by instinct, so initially their training consists of chasing a lure dragged along the ground. As they mature, they are taught to run on circular tracks, with the artificial lure suspended above the ground. At about a year and a half, they graduate to longer, oval tracks, starting boxes and competition.

Is racing safe for greyhounds?
The prevention of injuries is a high priority in greyhound racing. The industry has funded extensive research at leading veterinary universities to find ways of ensuring animal safety and preventing racing injuries. If an injury does occur, every track has a veterinarian on the premises to respond immediately

Why do greyhounds wear muzzles while racing?
Greyhounds wear muzzles while racing to identify themselves so racing officials can determine the outcome of a photo finish race, and to protect them from injuring themselves or one another during the excitement of the chase. They do not need to be muzzled in a home environment, since they are gentle and docile by nature.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 24, 2009, 05:07:33 PM
Meltdown.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 24, 2009, 05:11:10 PM
::)

I don`t feel like wasting the time correcting the myths. 


funny how you have time to slander and condescend pitbulls and their owners 


your trolling to antagonize people is boring and transparent
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 24, 2009, 05:24:14 PM
This thread has bad genetics.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 05:31:28 PM

funny how you have time to slander and condescend pitbulls and their owners 


your trolling to antagonize people is boring and transparent
What in the world are you talking about?

I did not slander any pitbull or their owners.  I think they are great dogs who suffer from myths just as Greyhounds do.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 24, 2009, 05:50:02 PM
What in the world are you talking about?

I did not slander any pitbull or their owners.  I think they are great dogs who suffer from myths just as Greyhounds do.
wrong----you have, more than once, refered to and demeaned pitbull owners as low class trash.  You may not believe that and only mentioned these things in the midst of being your online highbrow persona, regardless  I take little of what you say on getbig as anything solid, so if you really believe they are great dogs than cheers.

 

 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: The True Adonis on May 24, 2009, 06:08:32 PM
wrong----you have, more than once, refered to and demeaned pitbull owners as low class trash.  You may not believe that and only mentioned these things in the midst of being your online highbrow persona, regardless  I take little of what you say on getbig as anything solid, so if you really believe they are great dogs than cheers.

 

 

While I do think they are marvelous animals there is no denying that those type of dogs do attract certain sub-cultures of people for whatever reason.  If they weren`t popular in this sub-culture we would hear rappers talk about their Yorkies or their Basenjis, instead we hear them rap about their Pitbulls and their Rottwielers.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 25, 2009, 03:58:18 AM
This thread is Z board material.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Deicide on May 25, 2009, 04:28:09 AM
This thread is Z board material because it has poor genetics.

fixed
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 25, 2009, 10:05:29 AM
While I do think they are marvelous animals there is no denying that those type of dogs do attract certain sub-cultures of people for whatever reason.  If they weren`t popular in this sub-culture we would hear rappers talk about their Yorkies or their Basenjis, instead we hear them rap about their Pitbulls and their Rottwielers.
you make a good point but you have to look at the total number of pitbull owners and you realize, number 1, they are a very very popular breed and number 2, these "thugs" only make up a small % of the people who own pitbulls. Many more pitbulls have stable homes in a family setting.


Concerning hte greyhound post i made, I was merely making a point about being able to find anything to cut and paste on the internet to support one's ignorant views and less about saying that greyhounds are abused. 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Hereford on May 25, 2009, 12:08:58 PM
you make a good point but you have to look at the total number of pitbull owners and you realize, number 1, they are a very very popular breed and number 2, these "thugs" only make up a small % of the people who own pitbulls. Many more pitbulls have stable homes in a family setting.


Concerning hte greyhound post i made, I was merely making a point about being able to find anything to cut and paste on the internet to support one's ignorant views and less about saying that greyhounds are abused. 

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

Prove this statement in any way, shope or form. This is like saying 'thugs' are a small percentage of the people who conduct drive-by shootings. Anyone with a little common sense knows otherwise.

"Stable" homes don't have things like drugs, violence OR killer dog breeds in them.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: chaos on May 25, 2009, 01:11:08 PM


"Stable" homes don't have things like drugs, violence OR killer dog breeds in them.
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.


Prove this statement in any way, shope or form.

You are proving yourself to be a completely brainwashed idiot, I feel bad for your internet. :(
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: body88 on May 25, 2009, 02:33:46 PM
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

Prove this statement in any way, shope or form. This is like saying 'thugs' are a small percentage of the people who conduct drive-by shootings. Anyone with a little common sense knows otherwise.

"Stable"
homes don't have things like drugs, violence OR killer dog breeds in them.

Tell that to these people:
(http://popularbiographies.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/jessicabiel.jpg)
(http://www.trupitbull.com/Site_Pages/Famous_Owners/rachelray.jpg)
(http://www.trupitbull.com/Site_Pages/Famous_Owners/JessicaAlba.jpg)
(http://cdn.dipity.com/uploads/events/fca07c9cf4a5cf81f2302f1f3c22fe8f.jpg)
(https://aes-humanities8.wikispaces.com/file/view/theodore-roosevelt-picture.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1IikE9_oKLg/Rb80bm4kjgI/AAAAAAAAAJU/SkaKmOILyRA/s400/jonstewart-013007-a.jpg)
A pitbill is only a killer if it's taught to be one, or if it's raised without rules.  If it's brought up like a normal dog, it acts like a dog.   It's not rocket science.  There have been 140 deaths by "pitbull type" dogs over the last 20 years.  Last year 67 people died from lightning strikes alone. 
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Nordic Beast on May 25, 2009, 03:51:19 PM
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

Prove this statement in any way, shope or form. This is like saying 'thugs' are a small percentage of the people who conduct drive-by shootings. Anyone with a little common sense knows otherwise.

"Stable" homes don't have things like drugs, violence OR killer dog breeds in them.
you are lost
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: TrapsMcLats on May 25, 2009, 03:54:56 PM
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

Prove this statement in any way, shope or form. This is like saying 'thugs' are a small percentage of the people who conduct drive-by shootings. Anyone with a little common sense knows otherwise.

"Stable" homes don't have things like drugs, violence OR killer dog breeds in them.

haha, my girlfriend has a degree in biology and psychology from ucsd, she is a veterinary technician, and is working on becoming a vet.  I am working on my MBA. I (we)work with the spca and a pit rescue group (among many other things), and we live in a very affluent neighborhood.  I fail to see how we don't constitute a "stable" home.

educated, check.  
successful, check.
quiet, check.
drug free, check.
violence free, check.  
two pit bulls, check.

your arguement does not stack up.
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Migs on May 25, 2009, 08:19:40 PM
All dogs will bite you if you fuck with them long enough. My aunt's toy pomeranian is the meanest little peice of shit i've ever seen. Will snap at you like lightning.

+1
Title: Re: I hope owning that pit bull was worth endangering your child
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 08, 2009, 11:43:44 PM
They are however, under my supervision.  When I'm not around, they go in their kennel.



Nuff said.