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Liberal: Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)
Was watching both the other day on the same Fox show and realized how much I enjoy listening to both. Very intelligent men, well read, well spoken, great temperament.
Yours?
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I'd like to hear ex-governor Palin and Ginger Spice debating whose sudden quitting had more impact upon pop society.
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I'd like to hear ex-governor Palin and Ginger Spice debating whose sudden quitting had more impact upon pop society.
LOL. Good one, Rob. Tough call, too.
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Also been watching a bit of Huckabee's show and saw him as a guest on another show. Really starting to like him.
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huck is very likable. He won iowa in 2008, if i recall correctly. had a ton of early support. then he started sucking up to mitt in hopes of being his veep candidate.
huck could get my vote.
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Juan Williams is still my favorite liberal.
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Juan Williams is still my favorite liberal.
this is what he gets for being honest and saying things that most ppl would agree with... :-[
this country has let political correctness run amok
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this is what he gets for being honest and saying things that most ppl would agree with... :-[
this country has let political correctness run amok
Yep.
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"What's amazing here, I think, is how small Cyprus is and how relatively small the problem is. The bailout total, that you mentioned, is about a quarter of Apple's cash-on-hand. I mean, this is one country that Apple could purchase. It could own the island and call it, you know, iCyprus, or something. And have all this cash left over."
-- Charles Krauthammer on “Special Report With Bret Baier.”
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Liberal: Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)
Was watching both the other day on the same Fox show and realized how much I enjoy listening to both. Very intelligent men, well read, well spoken, great temperament.
Yours?
since when is Juan Williams considered a liberal?
He's a token moderate (sometimes not so moderate) conservative
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Favorite Conservative (and my mentor): Pat Buchanan
Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.
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Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.
I can't stand that bitch.
Her radio show is one giant yuck fest with terrible sound effects and people in the studio fighting to laugh over each other after non stop dumb jokes bashing republicans.
And as far as Huckabee goes...his political career is over. The same socially conservative platform he stood on for years will only hurt him going forward. Maybe he can run for congress in some Podunk district but on a national level? Forget about it.
It's like all these right wingers(and some democrats) who are suddenly "evolving" on issues like gay marriage... No, you are basically sending all your principles down the river in an attempt to save your job. Let's call it for what it really is.
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Favorite Conservative (and my mentor): Pat Buchanan
Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.
Don't really know anything about her. Just listened to a clip and she sounded ok.
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Krauthammer Details Life of Political Writing in New Book
Wednesday, 23 Oct 2013
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inShare inShare0 Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer says he left medicine to pursue a life of political writing because it's the one enterprise "on which everything else depends."
"It's not the way of life, the enterprise with the most dignity, as we've seen over the last few weeks, it's the one on which everything else depends," Krauthammer, a Pulitzer Prize winner and syndicated columnist, said on "Fox & Friends" Wednesday.
"If you get your politics wrong, all the things that matter, all the things of elegance and beauty can disappear. That's why I devoted my life to being involved in the political debate," he added.
Krauthammer details his life of political writing in a new book that's a compendium of his columns titled, "Things That Matter: Three Decades of Passions, Pastimes and Politics."
Krauthammer gave up a career in medicine in his late 20s because he decided,"This is not exactly what I was cut out to be."
His writing career began at the left-leaning New Republic magazine. But Krauthammer said he embraced conservatism when he saw the results of liberal policies.
"I was a great society liberal. I believed in the war on poverty, and all that. So, in the '80s and into the '90s, the empirical statistical evidence of the effects of the war on poverty on the poor began to come out.
"And, it turned out not only was the money wasted, the money and the new programs had developed dependency, and immiserated the lives of those it was supposed to help," he explained.
"I've come to the conclusion that it's limited government, which is the conservative idea. So, it wasn't that I woke up in the morning one day and I had an epiphany. We tried, I think, in good will. That was liberal idea. It turned out it didn't work."
A continuing theme throughout his career, Krauthammer continued, has been an "abhorrence of the extremes." He offered as example Democratic Florida Rep. Alan Grayson's distribution this week of fundraising likening the tea party to the Ku Klux Klan, complete with the image of a flaming cross.
"The one thing that has always been the center of my political thinking, and it goes back to when I was 19 and editor of my college paper, is an abhorrence of the extremes. Grayson is a classic example of the extremes," he said.
Krauthammer said at first he was worried about writing a weekly column but was surprised to discover how easy it is most of the time to come up with good material.
"At the beginning I used to worry, 'How am I going to get a column each week?' But, it would turn out that by Wednesday, which is when I write, somebody would do something exceedingly stupid. And, I had my subject," he said.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/krauthammer-political-writing-book/2013/10/23/id/532686#ixzz2iZl05kSy
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Juan Williams a liberal. LMFAO. He's an uncle Juan.
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Liberal: Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)
Krauthammer isn't what I consider a conservative, he's an idiotic neo-conservative.
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Favorite Conservative: Ben Swann
http://www.benswann.com
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Liberal: Juan Williams
Conservative: Charles Krauthammer (replacing Bob Novak)
Was watching both the other day on the same Fox show and realized how much I enjoy listening to both. Very intelligent men, well read, well spoken, great temperament.
Yours?
Is Krauthammer your favorite because he is always wrong like you ???
But at least he learns. Unlike you he blames the tea party for the shutdown:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-22-2013/extreme-takeover--tea-party-edition
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Would Juan Williams be considered a Liberal?
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Would Juan Williams be considered a Liberal?
no...
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Krauthammer isn't what I consider a conservative, he's an idiotic neo-conservative.
still, krauthammer is honest when he talks about current events. he blamed far-right tea partiers for the shutdown. he leans right hard... but he's honest about that.
people who are still saying "nothing is the tea partys fault, it's all obama's fault" are blind and not fair. Krauthammer admitted it, I gave him props for that.
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no...
Lmfao. Anyone to the right of Stalin or pol pot is a conservative to you leftist clowns.
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Lmfao. Anyone to the right of Stalin or pol pot is a conservative to you leftist clowns.
OH OK.. ::)
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Krauthammer isn't what I consider a conservative, he's an idiotic neo-conservative.
LOL!
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Is Krauthammer your favorite because he is always wrong like you ???
But at least he learns. Unlike you he blames the tea party for the shutdown:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-22-2013/extreme-takeover--tea-party-edition
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3_qnYrPmEVY/TbCcNmORe7I/AAAAAAAAAP0/Knag9chpp7s/s1600/Please-don-t-feed-the-trolls-atsof-547660_170_186.jpg)
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Would Juan Williams be considered a Liberal?
Yes.
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Here is a quick lesson on liberals for the retarded among us.
Bernie Sanders = LIBERAL
Juan Williams = NOT
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An even better (and more accurate lesson): anyone to the right of Jimmy Carter = conservative. At least for a liberal.
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An even better (and more accurate lesson): anyone to the right of Jimmy Carter = conservative. At least for a liberal.
Present day Jimmy Carter is a liberal. The Jimmy Carter of 1976-1981 may have been left of center, but not by much.
Bill Clinton = Best Republican President we've ever had.
Barack Obama = Giving Clinton a run for his money.
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Present day Jimmy Carter is a liberal. The Jimmy Carter of 1976-1981 may have been left of center, but not by much.
Bill Clinton = Best Republican President we've ever had.
Barack Obama = Giving Clinton a run for his money.
Cannot add anything to that. That about sums up the mindset of a liberal. lol :)
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Cannot add anything to that. That about sums up the mindset of a liberal. lol :)
lol...yep, talk about making your argument for ya, haha.
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Here is a quick lesson on liberals for the retarded among us.
Bernie Sanders = LIBERAL
Juan Williams = NOT
Bernie is a socialist
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Bernie is a socialist
Democratic Socialist, aka Liberal.
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Favorite Conservative (and my mentor): Pat Buchanan
Favorite Lib-uh-reel: Stephanie Miller, if I have to pick one.
Shit, good call on Stephanie Miller. That's a quick-witted bee-atch. Used to listen to her when driving to work in SF Bay Area about 7 years ago.
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Shit, good call on Stephanie Miller. That's a quick-witted bee-atch. Used to listen to her when driving to work in SF Bay Area about 7 years ago.
I like her too. Even though she's a dyke, I'd love to make ugly music with her and Richard Maddow. I miss old Uncle Pat Buchanan. He was crazier than a shit house rat, but made me LOL.
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I like her too. Even though she's a dyke, I'd love to make ugly music with her and Richard Maddow. I miss old Uncle Pat Buchanan. He was crazier than a shit house rat, but made me LOL.
She is? That sucks. Her and Rachel would be hot if it were the high school version of Rachel :
(http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/rachelmaddowyb.jpg)
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She is? That sucks. Her and Rachel would be hot if it were the high school version of Rachel :
(http://graneyandthepig.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/rachelmaddowyb.jpg)
I like a challenge. I'd go in hard from the back on present day Rachel.
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I like a challenge. I'd go in hard from the back on present day Rachel.
At least she seems like a bottom. (Steph has got to be a top.)
Rachel might be ready for you, though. Didn't her advanced education (Master's thesis, maybe?) concern prison rape? You'd risk getting shanked.
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At least she seems like a bottom. (Steph has got to be a top.)
Rachel might be ready for you, though. Didn't her advanced education (Master's thesis, maybe?) concern prison rape? You'd risk getting shanked.
I thought it had something to do with the hiv or the aids?
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OK, my favorite liberal and conservative?
Good guy liberal: Bernie Sanders
Bad guy liberal: Alan Grayson, without question. (Glad that prick is on our side.)
Good guy conservative: ????? Hmmm. Buckley is dead so maybe Juan Williams qualifies when he's talking about Muslims? I don't know.
Bad guy conservative: Rushbo in a very crowded field.
New category:
CILF (Conservative I'd Like to Fuck): Megyn Kelly (Just seems like the type who would know what she was doing.)
LILF (Liberal I'd Like to Fuck): Don't know her name but it's Cenk Uygur's co-anchor on The Young Turks. (She just seems like the type who'd be deliciously unaware of what she was doing/having done to her.)
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OK, my favorite liberal and conservative?
Good guy liberal: Bernie Sanders
Bad guy liberal: Alan Grayson, without question. (Glad that prick is on our side.)
Good guy conservative: ????? Hmmm. Buckley is dead so maybe Juan Williams qualifies when he's talking about Muslims? I don't know.
Bad guy conservative: Rushbo in a very crowded field.
New category:
CILF (Conservative I'd Like to Fuck): Megyn Kelly (Just seems like the type who would know what she was doing.)
LILF (Liberal I'd Like to Fuck): Don't know her name but it's Cenk Uygur's co-anchor on The Young Turks. (She just seems like the type who'd be deliciously unaware of what she was doing/having done to her.)
Wrong thread. >:( http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=349253.0
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New category:
CILF (Conservative I'd Like to Fuck): Megyn Kelly (Just seems like the type who would know what she was doing.)
LILF (Liberal I'd Like to Fuck): Don't know her name but it's Cenk Uygur's co-anchor on The Young Turks. (She just seems like the type who'd be deliciously unaware of what she was doing/having done to her.)
haha nice touch
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Charles Krauthammer, the famed conservative commentator, said Friday that he is dying from cancer and has weeks left to live.
He delivered the news in the Washington Post, where he has had a column since 1984. The letter was also read on Fox News, where he's been a longtime commentator.
"My doctors tell me their best estimate is that I have only a few weeks left to live," Krauthammer wrote. "This is the final verdict. My fight is over."
Krauthammer, 68, noted he had been "uncharacteristically silent" for 10 months. That was because he had a malignant tumor removed from his abdomen. While that surgery was a success, he said it led to complications, and that an aggressive form of cancer has now returned.
"I had thought that silence would soon be coming to an end, but I'm afraid I must tell you that fate has decided on a different course for me," he wrote.
He thanked his colleagues, readers and viewers in the note, as well as his doctors and caregivers.
"I believe that the pursuit of truth and right ideas through honest debate and rigourous argument is a noble undertaking," he wrote. "I am grateful to have played a small role in the conversations that have helped guide this extraordinary nation's destiny."
Rupert Murdoch, executive chairman of Fox News, said Krauthammer had been a "guiding star" for the cable news channel.
"Charles has been a profound source of personal and intellectual inspiration for all of us at Fox News," Murdoch said, per Fox. "His always principled stand on the most important issues of our time has been a guiding star in an often turbulent world, a world that has too many superficial thinkers vulnerable to the ebb and flow of fashion, and a world that, unfortunately, has only one Charles Krauthammer
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/685283002
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In his last days, he's proclaiming something very profound. Take the time to consider and really comprehend what he is saying. It's all about continuing the discussion. I wish I knew more about Charles Krauthammer. There are some very wise people on both sides to the spectrum who we should pay attention to because it looks like we have become irreparably polarized in a time when unity is essential to our survival.
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Here is a quick lesson on liberals for the retarded among us.
Bernie Sanders = LIBERAL
Juan Williams = NOT
Sorry, where's the question? This seems more like an opinion than a question.
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In his last days, he's proclaiming something very profound. Take the time to consider and really comprehend what he is saying. It's all about continuing the discussion. I wish I knew more about Charles Krauthammer. There are some very wise people on both sides to the spectrum who we should pay attention to because it looks like we have become irreparably polarized in a time when unity is essential to our survival.
Agree.
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RIP
Charles Krauthammer's death sparks wide reactions: 'A huge loss'
Nicole Darrah By Nicole Darrah | Fox News
Columnist, author and Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer lived his life telling others exactly what he thought.
Charles Krauthammer, a longtime Fox News contributor and Pulitzer Prize winner, died Thursday at the age of 68. The Harvard-trained psychiatrist's death was expected, as he released a heartbreaking letter earlier this month detailing his cancer diagnosis.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/21/charles-krauthammers-death-sparks-wide-reactions-huge-loss.html
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Juan Williams announces his departure from 'The Five' on Fox News
He will continue on at the network as a political analyst
https://www.theblaze.com/news/juan-williams-leaving-the-five
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Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard.
Juan Williams was paid to take the other side on the Five and did it very well. He could not believe half of what he said.
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New favorites.
Liberal: Alan Dershowitz
Conservative: Megyn Kelly
My criteria: smart, intellectually honest, and don't have to worry about them lying to me.
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New favorites.
Liberal: Alan Dershowitz
Conservative: Megyn Kelly
My criteria: smart, intellectually honest, and don't have to worry about them lying to me.
Do you agree Alan Dershowitz is being honest and forthright in comments about a Jeffrey Epstein client list?
Considering your past posts on Getbig on pedophiles, how do you feel about Alan's legal obligation to not divulge the names of the accused. Dershowitz may have information about the identity of the individuals mentioned in the redacted documents, his professional obligations as a lawyer and existing court orders legally restrict him from releasing that information.
"Dershowitz, who helped get a plea deal for Epstein in 2008, said that there’s no Epstein “client list,” just a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers.
“There are several of them from accusers that accuse Jeffrey — that accuse various people of having improper sex, and that has been redacted, the names of the people accused have been blacked out. Now, of course, because I was lawyer and I did all the investigations, I know who all these people are,” Dershowitz said Monday in an appearance on NewsNation’s “Cuomo.”"
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Do you agree Alan Dershowitz is being honest and forthright in comments about a Jeffrey Epstein client list?
Considering your past posts on Getbig on pedophiles, how do you feel about Alan's legal obligation to not divulge the names of the accused. Dershowitz may have information about the identity of the individuals mentioned in the redacted documents, his professional obligations as a lawyer and existing court orders legally restrict him from releasing that information.
"Dershowitz, who helped get a plea deal for Epstein in 2008, said that there’s no Epstein “client list,” just a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers.
“There are several of them from accusers that accuse Jeffrey — that accuse various people of having improper sex, and that has been redacted, the names of the people accused have been blacked out. Now, of course, because I was lawyer and I did all the investigations, I know who all these people are,” Dershowitz said Monday in an appearance on NewsNation’s “Cuomo.”"
He said there is no list and that he is prohibited by court order from talking about further info.
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He said there is no list and that he is prohibited by court order from talking about further info.
What does this have to do with the question I asked?
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What does this have to do with the question I asked?
I answered your question about whether he is being honest about an "Epstein client list."
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I answered your question about whether he is being honest about an "Epstein client list."
Thank you for answering the question even if you did so by repeating the information I already posted, almost word for word.
It is interesting that on the one hand Alan Dershowitz says there is no client list and then goes on to say that he knows who all these people are. If there is no client list then who are all these people, whose identity he knows? Is it only the accusers' affidavits and not who they accused? This seems odd.
Talk about a runaround, Trump tells Pam Bondi to release the files and then today the U.S. District Judge Robin Rosenberg of Florida ruled that Eleventh Circuit law does not permit her to grant the government's request to release the files. As if Pam Bondi and likely Trump would not have known this would be the result their request.
Also, Lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell asked the judge on Tuesday to allow them access to the grand jury transcripts. The judge declined to do so. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/23/politics/judge-declines-grand-jury-documents-jeffrey-epstein
Talk about a hot mess!
Considering your past posts on Getbig on pedophiles, how do you feel about Alan's legal obligation to not divulge the names of the accused. Dershowitz may have information about the identity of the individuals mentioned in the redacted documents, his professional obligations as a lawyer and existing court orders legally restrict him from releasing that information.
"Dershowitz, who helped get a plea deal for Epstein in 2008, said that there’s no Epstein “client list,” just a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers.
“There are several of them from accusers that accuse Jeffrey — that accuse various people of having improper sex, and that has been redacted, the names of the people accused have been blacked out. Now, of course, because I was lawyer and I did all the investigations, I know who all these people are,” Dershowitz said Monday in an appearance on NewsNation’s “Cuomo.”"
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New favorites.
Liberal: Alan Dershowitz
Conservative: Megyn Kelly
My criteria: smart, intellectually honest, and don't have to worry about them lying to me.
Gayer than having a favorite liberal.
Kelly has been killing it. She's really good.
Right now I listen mostly to Patrick Bet David. Once you get around the accent, the guys is super grounded, and looks at things from angles that make sense. A couple guys on his show are a bit loud, but he dials it back.
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Gayer than having a favorite liberal.
Kelly has been killing it. She's really good.
Right now I listen mostly to Patrick Bet David. Once you get around the accent, the guys is super grounded, and looks at things from angles that make sense. A couple guys on his show are a bit loud, but he dials it back.
Is he a liberal? I've heard him speak a few times and he sounded good.
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Is he a liberal? I've heard him speak a few times and he sounded good.
No, conservative.
But very grounded. Calls out Trump errors, but also is great at explaining the rationale behind a lot of stuff.
He's been killing it lately.