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Title: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 05, 2009, 07:47:48 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/21/parents-warning-over-teen-s-steroid-death-115875-21293382/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/21/parents-warning-over-teen-s-steroid-death-115875-21293382/)

Parents’ warning over steroid death of marine cadet teen Matt Dear

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By Rebecca Evans 21/04/2009
Matthew Dear

TRAGEDY: Matt Dear

A cadet aged 17 died yesterday after taking steroids in a tragic bid to get into the Marines.

Matt Dear suffered a fatal swelling to the brain when he tried a £30 black market batch of body-building pills.

Dad Chris, 43, of Southend, Essex, said: “He lived for joining the armed forces but fell to pieces before our eyes.”

After his death yesterday, his grieving family released this heart-wrenching photo of him as he vainly fought for life in hospital.

Mum Tina, 41, said: “He was my baby. and I can’t believe this has happened. We just hope that by sharing our pain over his tragic death we can help save someone else’s life and make them think twice about taking steroids.”

Dad Chris, 43, added sadly: “He was such a good kid – pure gold. He lived for joining the armed forces. But our healthy, strong son fell to pieces before our eyes because he took steroids.”

Part-time postman Matt – in the Army and Marine cadets since he was 12 – could not wait to take the gruelling selection test and join the real thing when he turned 18 in three months.

He spent hours in the gym and was so health-conscious he did not smoke, rarely drank and even shunned painkillers and chocolates.

Tragically, he undid all his good work when he secretly spent £30 on the black market pills three weeks ago.

Classroom assistant Tina,  said: “He was so vulnerable and trusting. He would have taken them out of naivety as he wanted to be fit enough for the Marines.”

Matt, whose brother Peter, 16 was also a cadet, first fell ill two weeks ago after a barbecue.

His dad, also a postman, said: “I put it down to food poisoning. Even though he felt ill, he still went to work.”

But a week ago he took a turn for the worse – and came clean for the first time about the drugs. Chris, of Southend, Essex, said: “He said he didn’t know where he was. His pupils were the size of saucers and he seemed really ill.

“When paramedics arrived, Matt told them he’d taken steroids. This was the first we knew.”
Matthew Dear

CLOSE  Matt, left, and Peter

His son went to hospital but was discharged the next morning when he felt better.

His father added: “I was still so angry at him for being so stupid and taking steroids that I told him off as we walked home.”

Matt seemed fine for most of the rest of the day. However, that evening he told Peter he could not see. He returned to hospital and a scan appeared clear, but after the first day he rapidly grew worse.

Chris added: “He said he felt he was drunk and had horrendous stomach pains. He was screaming out in pain. He was in such agony. It was unbearable to see.

“They moved him to the critical unit. They had to sedate him and he started to have fits. They did another scan and told us his brain had swollen.”

Matt, who had three brothers and a sister, finally lost his fight for life yesterday morning. Chris added: “They said his  brain had died and his kidneys packed in.”

An Essex Police spokeswoman warned of the risks of steroids and said: “Health experts advise extreme caution before taking any non-prescribed performance-enhancing substances.”

dA youth, 17, a man, 21, and another man, 24, all from Essex, were arrested on suspicion of supplying a controlled substance and later released on bail.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 05, 2009, 07:50:33 AM
Oh how retarded the public are
Steroids give you fits and pupils like saucers of course
Did it ever occur to the dumb girls their heart of gold son did some bad e's???
Fucking clowns
Fuck them
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 05, 2009, 07:50:56 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/voiceofthemirror/2009/04/21/teenager-matt-dear-s-death-is-proof-steroids-can-kill-115875-21294413/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/voiceofthemirror/2009/04/21/teenager-matt-dear-s-death-is-proof-steroids-can-kill-115875-21294413/)


Teenager Matt Dear's death is proof steroids can kill

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Voice of the Mirror 21/04/2009
Matt Dear (Pic:DM)

The tragic death of teenager Matt Dear is proof that steroids can kill.

Bodybuilders, fitness fanatics and sportsmen and women should heed the sad fate of the Royal Marine cadet.

Matt, 17, died after taking a substance he thought would enhance his performance but it cost him his life.

Health experts worry that a growing number of people - young people in particular - think steroids are an easy, risk-free way to build muscles.

Yet steroids can devastate vital organs and the result can be a painful death.

Gym owners have a responsibility to clamp down on dealers and the police should be on the look out for steroid pushers.

But the easiest way to beat the dealers is to educate our children to say no, to refuse to buy these potentially fatal drugs.

Our hearts go out to Matt's grieving parents and we hope others will avoid the fate of a son cruelly snatched from his family..
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: dr.chimps on July 05, 2009, 07:53:19 AM
LOL. England has long been the home to the trashiest, yellow journalism since Hearst. This sensationalism is quite tame compared to other shit that passes as news.

/page 3 ftw!
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 05, 2009, 07:53:54 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/voiceofthemirror/2009/04/21/teenager-matt-dear-s-death-is-proof-steroids-can-kill-115875-21294413/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/voiceofthemirror/2009/04/21/teenager-matt-dear-s-death-is-proof-steroids-can-kill-115875-21294413/)


Teenager Matt Dear's death is proof steroids can kill

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Voice of the Mirror 21/04/2009
Matt Dear (Pic:DM)

The tragic death of teenager Matt Dear is proof that steroids can kill.

Bodybuilders, fitness fanatics and sportsmen and women should heed the sad fate of the Royal Marine cadet.

Matt, 17, died after taking a substance he thought would enhance his performance but it cost him his life.

Health experts worry that a growing number of people - young people in particular - think steroids are an easy, risk-free way to build muscles.

Yet steroids can devastate vital organs and the result can be a painful death.

Gym owners have a responsibility to clamp down on dealers and the police should be on the look out for steroid pushers.

But the easiest way to beat the dealers is to educate our children to say no, to refuse to buy these potentially fatal drugs.

Our hearts go out to Matt's grieving parents and we hope others will avoid the fate of a son cruelly snatched from his family..

Fuck them
Their son was a fucking E head,get over it
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: lax on July 05, 2009, 07:54:52 AM
There are an average of 3 (three) documented steroid deaths per year in the US.

So, this story is chock full of erroneous info and very irresponsible, alarmist 'reporting'
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Meso_z on July 05, 2009, 07:55:07 AM
First thing is to blame steroids.  ::)

who fucking cares
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Tatyana on July 05, 2009, 08:00:30 AM
Oh how retarded the public are
Steroids give you fits and pupils like saucers of course
Did it ever occur to the dumb girls their heart of gold son did some bad e's???
Fucking clowns
Fuck them

I wonder if the autopsy toxicology report has come out.

He died of brain swelliing.

The issue is that this young man thought he was taking steroids, he told the ambulence drivers he had been taking steroids.

The clinical presentation has things  that do fit with hyperacute liver failure, what caused the acute liver failure remains to be determined.

Clinical presentation

ALF usually presents with malaise, nausea and jaundice. The interval between the onset of jaundice and the onset of encephalopathy depends on the aetiology and is used to classify ALF:

hyperacute liver failure (7 days between onset of jaundice and encephalopathy)

acute liver failure (8–28 days)

subacute liver failure (5–12 weeks).
 
This classification has implications for the prognosis and inci­dence of cerebral oedema, which is more common in hyperacute failure.

As liver failure progresses, encephalopathy becomes the characteristic feature.

The grading of encephalopathy is described in Figure 2. The mechanism of encephalopathy is not fully understood.

Ammonia, false neurotransmitters and endogenous benzodiazepine ligands that enhance the effect of the inhibitory transmitter ?-aminobutyric acid have been proposed as causes.

Figure 2: Grades of encephalopathy

Clinical presentation
ALF usually presents with malaise, nausea and jaundice. The interval between the onset of jaundice and the onset of encephalopathy depends on the aetiology and is used to classify ALF:

hyperacute liver failure (7 days between onset of jaundice and encephalopathy)

acute liver failure (8–28 days)

subacute liver failure (5–12 weeks).

This classification has implications for the prognosis and inci­dence of cerebral oedema, which is more common in hyperacute failure.

 As liver failure progresses, encephalopathy becomes the characteristic feature. The grading of encephalopathy is described in Figure 2.

The mechanism of encephalopathy is not fully understood. Ammonia, false neurotransmitters and endogenous benzodiazepine ligands that enhance the effect of the inhibitory transmitter ?-aminobutyric acid have been proposed as causes.

Figure 2: Grades of encephalopathy

Grade 1: altered moods, impaired concentration and psychomotor function

Grade 2: drowsy, inappropriate behaviour, inability to speak

Grade 3: very drowsy, disoriented, agitated, aggressive

Grade 4: coma, may respond to painful stimuli
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: spinnis on July 05, 2009, 08:01:05 AM
LOL. England has long been the home to the trashiest, yellow journalism since Hearst. This sensationalism is quite tame compared to other shit that passes as news.

/page 3 ftw!
its worse in sweden. Way worse.

They just did a huge research about what teens thought about suppliments. Ofc almost everyone though it was ok.

Then in the arcticle it said 88% OF SWEDISH TEENS APPROVE THE USE OF STEROIDS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Not mentioning they asked about normal suppliments NOT steroids.

And thats from the biggest swedish newspaper.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 05, 2009, 08:02:26 AM
maybe someone sold him the pills telling him they were steroids but the pills were something else, probably bad E
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 05, 2009, 08:05:36 AM
I wonder if the autopsy toxicology report has come out.

He died of brain swelliing.

The issue is that this young man thought he was taking steroids, he told the ambulence drivers he had been taking steroids.

The clinical presentation has things  that do fit with hyperacute liver failure, what caused the acute liver failure remains to be determined.

Clinical presentation

ALF usually presents with malaise, nausea and jaundice. The interval between the onset of jaundice and the onset of encephalopathy depends on the aetiology and is used to classify ALF:

hyperacute liver failure (7 days between onset of jaundice and encephalopathy)

acute liver failure (8–28 days)

subacute liver failure (5–12 weeks).
 
This classification has implications for the prognosis and inci­dence of cerebral oedema, which is more common in hyperacute failure.

As liver failure progresses, encephalopathy becomes the characteristic feature.

The grading of encephalopathy is described in Figure 2. The mechanism of encephalopathy is not fully understood.

Ammonia, false neurotransmitters and endogenous benzodiazepine ligands that enhance the effect of the inhibitory transmitter ?-aminobutyric acid have been proposed as causes.

Figure 2: Grades of encephalopathy

Clinical presentation
ALF usually presents with malaise, nausea and jaundice. The interval between the onset of jaundice and the onset of encephalopathy depends on the aetiology and is used to classify ALF:

hyperacute liver failure (7 days between onset of jaundice and encephalopathy)

acute liver failure (8–28 days)

subacute liver failure (5–12 weeks).

This classification has implications for the prognosis and inci­dence of cerebral oedema, which is more common in hyperacute failure.

 As liver failure progresses, encephalopathy becomes the characteristic feature. The grading of encephalopathy is described in Figure 2.

The mechanism of encephalopathy is not fully understood. Ammonia, false neurotransmitters and endogenous benzodiazepine ligands that enhance the effect of the inhibitory transmitter ?-aminobutyric acid have been proposed as causes.

Figure 2: Grades of encephalopathy

Grade 1: altered moods, impaired concentration and psychomotor function

Grade 2: drowsy, inappropriate behaviour, inability to speak

Grade 3: very drowsy, disoriented, agitated, aggressive

Grade 4: coma, may respond to painful stimuli
I was given a bag of 30clen a few yrs back by a mate
He rang me later in the evening asking had I taken any of them
I said no,not yet to which I was informed by him that they were actually E's
An honest mistake but I hate recreational drugs
This tithead that died had taken some e's at the barbacue,no doubt
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Tatyana on July 05, 2009, 08:10:01 AM
maybe someone sold him the pills telling him they were steroids but the pills were something else, probably bad E

Possibly, there are other drugs that have been implicated in hyper-acute renal failure:  Paracetamol, diuretics, MAOIs, halothane, isoniazid, phenytoin.


More people die from paracetamol overdose than E overdose.



Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Figo on July 05, 2009, 08:20:56 AM
idiotic media sensationalism
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: WEIBK on July 05, 2009, 09:32:08 AM
STERIOD WILL KILL WITH OVERDOSES, AND IT TAKE WEEKS TILL ALL HIS ORGANS WILL FAIL TO FUCTION ( MULTI ORGANS FAILURE ), HIGH DOSES OF STERIOD ON DAILY BASIS WITHOUT SUPERVISION, LEAD TO FITS, BRAIN OEDEMA, RENAL, AND LIVER FAILUE. SUDDEN DEATH MAY BE DUE TO TAKEN HIGH DOSES OF DIURITICS ( ALDACTONE, OR LASIX ) WHICH LEADS TO SEVERE DEHYDRATION, AND HEART ATTACK.

Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 05, 2009, 09:34:34 AM
idiotic media sensationalism

Yes, quite moronic. How are we supposed to rebuild our empire when the London press is burdened with such intellectual midgets?  :P
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 05, 2009, 09:37:20 AM
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2009/0/0/matt-dear-pic-dm-image-1-251021578.jpg)

What a shame! Took enough "steroids" to end up like this, but apparently not enough to build any amount of muscle at all. He looks like he'd never touched a weight in his life!
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 05, 2009, 09:38:14 AM
STERIOD WILL KILL WITH OVERDOSES, AND IT TAKE WEEKS TILL ALL HIS ORGANS WILL FAIL TO FUCTION ( MULTI ORGANS FAILURE ), HIGH DOSES OF STERIOD ON DAILY BASIS WITHOUT SUPERVISION, LEAD TO FITS, BRAIN OEDEMA, RENAL, AND LIVER FAILUE. SUDDEN DEATH MAY BE DUE TO TAKEN HIGH DOSES OF DIURITICS ( ALDACTONE, OR LASIX ) WHICH LEADS TO SEVERE DEHYDRATION, AND HEART ATTACK.



Dear WEIBK with all due respect because you always post with honesty and knowledge burt this time i must disagree with you, steroid abuse would need to be for many many years until causing sickness or in rare cases death, this young British man died very quickly from just taking some pills, i truly believe they were not steroids and like many others have said recreational drugs which he thought were steroids, sadly steroids will be blamed again.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 05, 2009, 09:39:45 AM
Yes, quite moronic. How are we supposed to rebuild our empire when the London press is burdened with such intellectual midgets?  :P

I truly believe the world needs the British empire to return, or at least make the Commonwealth more unified and important.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Method101 on July 05, 2009, 09:44:52 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220063.0;attach=257855;image)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: PeteCZ on July 05, 2009, 09:53:41 AM
its worse in sweden. Way worse.

They just did a huge research about what teens thought about suppliments. Ofc almost everyone though it was ok.

Then in the arcticle it said 88% OF SWEDISH TEENS APPROVE THE USE OF STEROIDS WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Not mentioning they asked about normal suppliments NOT steroids.

And thats from the biggest swedish newspaper.

that is fucking nasty, i would make protein shake for the reporter who wrote it claiming it's new chocolate drink and then told him he just drunk "serving of steroid". Imagine his fucking fface
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 05, 2009, 09:57:09 AM
Def. sounds like bad E
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Spike on July 05, 2009, 09:57:37 AM
the kid was obviously juiced to the gills.....he looked so big and ripped he could of been mega-dosing all kinds of anabolic and peptide hormones ::)

PIP
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 05, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
the kid was obviously juiced to the gills.....he looked so big and ripped he could of been mega-dosing all kinds of anabolic and peptide hormones ::)

PIP

That roided-out muscleman could definitely have overtaken Ronnie Coleman and Markus Ruhl as a mass monster. He could have been bigger than Trey "No Lats" Brewer by 21. He could have been 350 lbs with abs by 23. Too bad the roids done him in so early! PIP!  :'(
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Dballn247 on July 05, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220063.0;attach=257855;image)

Spilled over just a tad.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 05, 2009, 11:44:01 AM
Idiot journalists.  >:(  "Steroids" do not kill, unless you're talking about decades of abuse and the toll it takes on certain organs.  Whatever was in the pills other than steroids was what killed him.  That's the risk you take with black-market substances.   In a way, though, the illegalty of steroids is exactly what makes them dangerous.  If the laws were changed, and everyone using steroids got them from a legit licenses pharmacy and was monitored by a doc, they would be 100% safe.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Necrosis on July 05, 2009, 11:53:58 AM
Idiot journalists.  >:(  "Steroids" do not kill, unless you're talking about decades of abuse and the toll it takes on certain organs.  Whatever was in the pills other than steroids was what killed him.  That's the risk you take with black-market substances.   In a way, though, the illegalty of steroids is exactly what makes them dangerous.  If the laws were changed, and everyone using steroids got them from a legit licenses pharmacy and was monitored by a doc, they would be 100% safe.

100% safe? infertility, hepatoxicity, worsening of psychiatric conditions,edema and hypertension, increased epo and possible thrombotic complications etc etc...

relavtivly safe, but 100% not even close.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: gh15 on July 05, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
STERIOD WILL KILL WITH OVERDOSES, AND IT TAKE WEEKS TILL ALL HIS ORGANS WILL FAIL TO FUCTION ( MULTI ORGANS FAILURE ), HIGH DOSES OF STERIOD ON DAILY BASIS WITHOUT SUPERVISION, LEAD TO FITS, BRAIN OEDEMA, RENAL, AND LIVER FAILUE. SUDDEN DEATH MAY BE DUE TO TAKEN HIGH DOSES OF DIURITICS ( ALDACTONE, OR LASIX ) WHICH LEADS TO SEVERE DEHYDRATION, AND HEART ATTACK.



just to be very clear,,

ALL ABSOLUTELY ALL FELLAS WHO DIE FROM SUPPOSED USE OF HORMONES ,,ALWAYS IN EACH AND EVERY CASE HAD EITHER

1. NARCOTIC DRUGS IN SYSTEM (MAINLY PAIN KILLERS)

2. ALHOLOICS FELLAS THAT DRANK AND I MEAN DRANK NOT A BEER OR 2 EVERY SUNDAY

3. PRE DETERIMED AND KNOWN OR UNKNOWN HEALTH CONDITION INVOLVING THE HEART


NO ONE EVER DIED WHILE USING ONLY HORMONES ,,NOT EVEN ONE CASE OF A LIFTER WHO TOOK HORMONES AND DIED AND WAS ONLY ON HORMONES,,NOT EVEN ONE! NOT PROFESSIONAL NOT AMATURE NOT ANY TYPE OF LIFTER NOT EVEN BEGGINERS THAT USE MEGA DOSING AND SOME STUPID BEGGINERS USE MEGADOSING BUT NEVER DIE ,,


HORMONES ARE NATURAL TO THE BODY AND ITS NOT DRUGS ONLY BY LAW IT IS DRUGS BUT IT IS SUPPLEMENTS AND NOT CONTREOLLED IN MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD ,,


MOST BODYBUILDERS AND WRESTLERS THAT YOU HEAR DIE FROM HORMONES IN REAKLITY DIE FROM THE ABUSE OF PAIN KILLERS AND DUERTICS IN CASE OF BDYBUILDERS ,,BODYBUILDERS IS THE CASE AT POINT HERE ,,SO I WILL GO AND SAY HERE THAT BODY BUILDERS WHO DIED PRE MATURE DEATH DIED FROM THE USE OF PAIN  KILLERS AND NARCOTICS IN GENERAL IN ADDITION TO DURETICS ,,MOST FELLAS WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE STILL BUT THOSE BODYUBUILDERS WHO DIED HAD CAIOTIC LIFE STYLE THAT INCLUDED DRINKING ,,REC DRUGS ,,PAIN KILLERS ,,DURETICS ,,

THERE IS ONE CATAGIORY WHICH I PUT ASIDE AND THIS CATAGORY IS THE BODYBUUILDER WHO DIE FROM INSULIN USE ,,THOSE ARE NOT BODYBUILDERS THOUGH ,,THEY ARE USUALLY GYM CLUB RATES THAT WAKE UP EVERY DAY AT 4 PM AND GOING TO SHOW OFF IN GYM FOR 30 MIN THEN TO BOUNCE AT CLUB AND SELL DRUGS ,,INBETWEEN THEY INJECT ENOURMOUS UNITS OF INSULIN AND JUST DONT PAY ATTENTION TO NOTHING IN GENERAL ,,THEY USUALLY DIE IN THIER SLEEP AS IN GO TO SLEEP AND NEVER WAKE UP,,THIS GROUP IS DIFF AND VERY SMALL,,

MJ15 APPROVED

Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Deicide on July 05, 2009, 11:58:07 AM
Good times. 8)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: MethodGNA on July 05, 2009, 12:09:15 PM
I wonder if the autopsy toxicology report has come out.

He died of brain swelliing.

The issue is that this young man thought he was taking steroids, he told the ambulence drivers he had been taking steroids.

The clinical presentation has things  that do fit with hyperacute liver failure, what caused the acute liver failure remains to be determined.

Clinical presentation

ALF usually presents with malaise, nausea and jaundice. The interval between the onset of jaundice and the onset of encephalopathy depends on the aetiology and is used to classify ALF:

hyperacute liver failure (7 days between onset of jaundice and encephalopathy)

acute liver failure (8–28 days)

subacute liver failure (5–12 weeks).
 
This classification has implications for the prognosis and inci­dence of cerebral oedema, which is more common in hyperacute failure.

As liver failure progresses, encephalopathy becomes the characteristic feature.

The grading of encephalopathy is described in Figure 2. The mechanism of encephalopathy is not fully understood.

Ammonia, false neurotransmitters and endogenous benzodiazepine ligands that enhance the effect of the inhibitory transmitter ?-aminobutyric acid have been proposed as causes.

Figure 2: Grades of encephalopathy

Clinical presentation
ALF usually presents with malaise, nausea and jaundice. The interval between the onset of jaundice and the onset of encephalopathy depends on the aetiology and is used to classify ALF:

hyperacute liver failure (7 days between onset of jaundice and encephalopathy)

acute liver failure (8–28 days)

subacute liver failure (5–12 weeks).

This classification has implications for the prognosis and inci­dence of cerebral oedema, which is more common in hyperacute failure.

 As liver failure progresses, encephalopathy becomes the characteristic feature. The grading of encephalopathy is described in Figure 2.

The mechanism of encephalopathy is not fully understood. Ammonia, false neurotransmitters and endogenous benzodiazepine ligands that enhance the effect of the inhibitory transmitter ?-aminobutyric acid have been proposed as causes.

Figure 2: Grades of encephalopathy

Grade 1: altered moods, impaired concentration and psychomotor function

Grade 2: drowsy, inappropriate behaviour, inability to speak

Grade 3: very drowsy, disoriented, agitated, aggressive

Grade 4: coma, may respond to painful stimuli

we get, you know medical nomenclature...........y our glad something like this came up, so as it gave you the opportunity to throw around some physiological jargon so everyone can see how smart you are........we are all impressed........... ::) ::)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Figo on July 05, 2009, 12:25:56 PM
Even if this kid had pre-existing medical issues, what oral anabolic could possibly cause his demise within 3 weeks?

The kid thought he was taking aas, told his dad so eventually, and thats whats deemed culpable. But, surely the doctors would've said cant be, steroids cannot cause this, or an autopsy would've taken place?

 
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: nodeal on July 05, 2009, 12:41:38 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/21/parents-warning-over-teen-s-steroid-death-115875-21293382/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/04/21/parents-warning-over-teen-s-steroid-death-115875-21293382/)

Parents’ warning over steroid death of marine cadet teen Matt Dear

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By Rebecca Evans 21/04/2009
Matthew Dear

TRAGEDY: Matt Dear

A cadet aged 17 died yesterday after taking steroids in a tragic bid to get into the Marines.

Matt Dear suffered a fatal swelling to the brain when he tried a £30 black market batch of body-building pills.

Dad Chris, 43, of Southend, Essex, said: “He lived for joining the armed forces but fell to pieces before our eyes.”

After his death yesterday, his grieving family released this heart-wrenching photo of him as he vainly fought for life in hospital.

Mum Tina, 41, said: “He was my baby. and I can’t believe this has happened. We just hope that by sharing our pain over his tragic death we can help save someone else’s life and make them think twice about taking steroids.”

Dad Chris, 43, added sadly: “He was such a good kid – pure gold. He lived for joining the armed forces. But our healthy, strong son fell to pieces before our eyes because he took steroids.”

Part-time postman Matt – in the Army and Marine cadets since he was 12 – could not wait to take the gruelling selection test and join the real thing when he turned 18 in three months.

He spent hours in the gym and was so health-conscious he did not smoke, rarely drank and even shunned painkillers and chocolates.

Tragically, he undid all his good work when he secretly spent £30 on the black market pills three weeks ago.

Classroom assistant Tina,  said: “He was so vulnerable and trusting. He would have taken them out of naivety as he wanted to be fit enough for the Marines.”

Matt, whose brother Peter, 16 was also a cadet, first fell ill two weeks ago after a barbecue.

His dad, also a postman, said: “I put it down to food poisoning. Even though he felt ill, he still went to work.”

But a week ago he took a turn for the worse – and came clean for the first time about the drugs. Chris, of Southend, Essex, said: “He said he didn’t know where he was. His pupils were the size of saucers and he seemed really ill.

“When paramedics arrived, Matt told them he’d taken steroids. This was the first we knew.”
Matthew Dear

CLOSE  Matt, left, and Peter

His son went to hospital but was discharged the next morning when he felt better.

His father added: “I was still so angry at him for being so stupid and taking steroids that I told him off as we walked home.”

Matt seemed fine for most of the rest of the day. However, that evening he told Peter he could not see. He returned to hospital and a scan appeared clear, but after the first day he rapidly grew worse.

Chris added: “He said he felt he was drunk and had horrendous stomach pains. He was screaming out in pain. He was in such agony. It was unbearable to see.

“They moved him to the critical unit. They had to sedate him and he started to have fits. They did another scan and told us his brain had swollen.”

Matt, who had three brothers and a sister, finally lost his fight for life yesterday morning. Chris added: “They said his  brain had died and his kidneys packed in.”

An Essex Police spokeswoman warned of the risks of steroids and said: “Health experts advise extreme caution before taking any non-prescribed performance-enhancing substances.”

dA youth, 17, a man, 21, and another man, 24, all from Essex, were arrested on suspicion of supplying a controlled substance and later released on bail.

Proof that steroids will kill you instantly no matter what. Show some respect for this potential bodybuilder who lost his life... Put down the needle and pick up a novel.

(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2009/0/0/matt-dear-pic-dm-image-1-251021578.jpg)

What a shame! Took enough "steroids" to end up like this, but apparently not enough to build any amount of muscle at all. He looks like he'd never touched a weight in his life!

A true waste of genetic potential as yet another life is lost to the juice.

Roiders are dropping left and right and I'm starting to suspect MJ, Billy Mays, Farrah Fawcett, McNair...all roids...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/nodeal/billy-mays.jpg)

Clearly some sort of anabolic as his forearms engulf most of the pic, thumbs look as sturdy as the most ancient pillars, and his watch struggles to remain intact.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: MethodGNA on July 05, 2009, 12:47:38 PM
Proof that steroids will kill you instantly no matter what. Show some respect for this potential bodybuilder who lost his life... Put down the needle and pick up a novel.

A true waste of genetic potential as yet another life is lost to the juice.

Roiders are dropping left and right and I'm starting to suspect MJ, Billy Mays, Farrah Fawcett, McNair...all roids...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/nodeal/billy-mays.jpg)

Clearly some sort of anabolic as his forearms engulf most of the pic, thumbs look as sturdy as the most ancient pillars, and his watch struggles to remain intact.


haha... ;D
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 05, 2009, 12:51:47 PM
For all we know his 'dealer' buddies gave the kid repackaged rat poison to play a prank on him or some other bogus shit, I want to see the toxicology report and what substances were actually contained in his stomach and blood stream
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Figo on July 05, 2009, 12:55:04 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.asylum.co.uk/media/2008/05/yoga_steroids_getty.jpg)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: MethodGNA on July 05, 2009, 01:10:37 PM
For all we know his 'dealer' buddies gave the kid repackaged rat poison to play a prank on him or some other bogus shit, I want to see the toxicology report and what substances were actually contained in his stomach and blood stream


i agree, i be really suprised if what that kid took was a steroid, he might very well have though it was a steroid, but i would bet that is not that case
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 05, 2009, 01:23:05 PM
Even if this kid had pre-existing medical issues, what oral anabolic could possibly cause his demise within 3 weeks?

The kid thought he was taking aas, told his dad so eventually, and thats whats deemed culpable. But, surely the doctors would've said cant be, steroids cannot cause this, or an autopsy would've taken place?

 


Your average doc knows less about AAS than you'd think.  With the exception of docs who take an interest in HRT, most in general practice are brutally ignorant.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 05, 2009, 03:06:18 PM
100% safe? infertility, hepatoxicity, worsening of psychiatric conditions,edema and hypertension, increased epo and possible thrombotic complications etc etc...

relavtivly safe, but 100% not even close.
you forgot Gyno  ;D
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Kane89 on July 05, 2009, 03:58:44 PM
just to be very clear,,

ALL ABSOLUTELY ALL FELLAS WHO DIE FROM SUPPOSED USE OF HORMONES ,,ALWAYS IN EACH AND EVERY CASE HAD EITHER

1. NARCOTIC DRUGS IN SYSTEM (MAINLY PAIN KILLERS)

2. ALHOLOICS FELLAS THAT DRANK AND I MEAN DRANK NOT A BEER OR 2 EVERY SUNDAY

3. PRE DETERIMED AND KNOWN OR UNKNOWN HEALTH CONDITION INVOLVING THE HEART


NO ONE EVER DIED WHILE USING ONLY HORMONES ,,NOT EVEN ONE CASE OF A LIFTER WHO TOOK HORMONES AND DIED AND WAS ONLY ON HORMONES,,NOT EVEN ONE! NOT PROFESSIONAL NOT AMATURE NOT ANY TYPE OF LIFTER NOT EVEN BEGGINERS THAT USE MEGA DOSING AND SOME STUPID BEGGINERS USE MEGADOSING BUT NEVER DIE ,,


HORMONES ARE NATURAL TO THE BODY AND ITS NOT DRUGS ONLY BY LAW IT IS DRUGS BUT IT IS SUPPLEMENTS AND NOT CONTREOLLED IN MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD ,,


MOST BODYBUILDERS AND WRESTLERS THAT YOU HEAR DIE FROM HORMONES IN REAKLITY DIE FROM THE ABUSE OF PAIN KILLERS AND DUERTICS IN CASE OF BDYBUILDERS ,,BODYBUILDERS IS THE CASE AT POINT HERE ,,SO I WILL GO AND SAY HERE THAT BODY BUILDERS WHO DIED PRE MATURE DEATH DIED FROM THE USE OF PAIN  KILLERS AND NARCOTICS IN GENERAL IN ADDITION TO DURETICS ,,MOST FELLAS WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE STILL BUT THOSE BODYUBUILDERS WHO DIED HAD CAIOTIC LIFE STYLE THAT INCLUDED DRINKING ,,REC DRUGS ,,PAIN KILLERS ,,DURETICS ,,

THERE IS ONE CATAGIORY WHICH I PUT ASIDE AND THIS CATAGORY IS THE BODYBUUILDER WHO DIE FROM INSULIN USE ,,THOSE ARE NOT BODYBUILDERS THOUGH ,,THEY ARE USUALLY GYM CLUB RATES THAT WAKE UP EVERY DAY AT 4 PM AND GOING TO SHOW OFF IN GYM FOR 30 MIN THEN TO BOUNCE AT CLUB AND SELL DRUGS ,,INBETWEEN THEY INJECT ENOURMOUS UNITS OF INSULIN AND JUST DONT PAY ATTENTION TO NOTHING IN GENERAL ,,THEY USUALLY DIE IN THIER SLEEP AS IN GO TO SLEEP AND NEVER WAKE UP,,THIS GROUP IS DIFF AND VERY SMALL,,

MJ15 APPROVED



Well said..

And your old enough to type better..
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 05, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
LOL. England has long been the home to the trashiest, yellow journalism since Hearst. This sensationalism is quite tame compared to other shit that passes as news.

/page 3 ftw!

Just for you, dr. chimps  :P

Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: WEIBK on July 06, 2009, 07:34:08 AM
Dear WEIBK with all due respect because you always post with honesty and knowledge burt this time i must disagree with you, steroid abuse would need to be for many many years until causing sickness or in rare cases death, this young British man died very quickly from just taking some pills, i truly believe they were not steroids and like many others have said recreational drugs which he thought were steroids, sadly steroids will be blamed again.

DEAR SCHMOE BUSTER, I HIGHLY RESPECT YOUR OPENION, MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT STERIODS NOT THAT MUCH, AS I KNOW STEROIDS DON'T KILL IMMEDIATELY, IT COULD BE TO UNKOWN PILLS WHICH HE TOOK, AND WITH POST PORTUNE THEY CAN FINE WHAT EXACTLY HE TOOK. RESPECT TO YOUR OPEHION.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: local hero on July 06, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
ive yet to see anything in the news about this... would have been glued to my locker at work, no question..
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 06, 2009, 09:26:40 AM
That dumb dead little girl never took real gear
Look at him sure
He was sold junk or hes an E head,which is more likely
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: big L dawg on July 06, 2009, 09:39:10 AM
I can't believe there are people that actually think story's like this are legit.this is yet another reason why steroids should be legalized and regulated.who knows what this kid took that caused his death but being as it was black market shit I guarantee It wasn't d-bol.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 06, 2009, 09:59:17 AM
I can't believe there are people that actually think story's like this are legit.this is yet another reason why steroids should be legalized and regulated.who knows what this kid took that caused his death but being as it was black market shit I guarantee It wasn't d-bol.
Man,in my shop EVERYDAY someone tells me a horror story of a friend of a friend who died or got fucked up kidneys from creatine
People are so jealous of us amazing bodybuilders they say shit cos they know they cant be like us
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Earl1972 on July 06, 2009, 11:43:12 AM
Idiot journalists.  >:(  "Steroids" do not kill, unless you're talking about decades of abuse and the toll it takes on certain organs.  Whatever was in the pills other than steroids was what killed him.  That's the risk you take with black-market substances.   In a way, though, the illegalty of steroids is exactly what makes them dangerous.  If the laws were changed, and everyone using steroids got them from a legit licenses pharmacy and was monitored by a doc, they would be 100% safe.


how do you get your steroids?

E
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Man of Steel on July 06, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
AHAAHAHAHAH!!!!  I love how Getbiggers refuse to admit that steriod use/abuse can be bad for you body.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 06, 2009, 11:50:57 AM
AHAAHAHAHAH!!!!  I love how Getbiggers refuse to admit that steriod use/abuse can be bad for you body.

x2 i actually died from steroid abuse,,,20iu of gh, 2000mg trens, 3000mg sust, among others,,I just died
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: big L dawg on July 06, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
AHAAHAHAHAH!!!!  I love how Getbiggers refuse to admit that steriod use/abuse can be bad for you body.

no doubt about it steroid abuse can be bad for you.I don't think I've heard anyone say anything to the contrary.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: G o a t b o y on July 06, 2009, 06:37:55 PM

how do you get your steroids?

E

From a pharmacy, I have a prescription.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Kegdrainer on July 06, 2009, 07:22:03 PM
where is the lab analysis of the pills he took? 

It doesn't even say what they were...
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Chick on July 06, 2009, 07:35:37 PM
where is the lab analysis of the pills he took? 

It doesn't even say what they were...


They werent steroids...

It's as false a story as that kid who killed himself and his father that goes around preaching against steroids...
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Figo on July 08, 2009, 05:03:05 AM
They werent steroids...

It's as false a story as that kid who killed himself and his father that goes around preaching against steroids...

What happenned, did he get too big, and actually just wanted a beach physique...?
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Meso_z on July 08, 2009, 05:16:28 AM
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2009/0/0/matt-dear-pic-dm-image-1-251021578.jpg)

What a shame! Took enough "steroids" to end up like this, but apparently not enough to build any amount of muscle at all. He looks like he'd never touched a weight in his life!

what a beast. 

wasted potential for sure.  ::)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 08, 2009, 08:52:19 AM
what a beast. 

wasted potential for sure.  ::)

He could have been a contender. He could have been somebody.

Now we will never see this mass monster posing in a thong on the Olympia stage.  :'(
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 08, 2009, 09:04:28 AM
They werent steroids...

It's as false a story as that kid who killed himself and his father that goes around preaching against steroids...

The father that refuses to even consider or accept scientific evidence that his son killed himself because of any other reason, I feel for the man who lost his son but blaming it on steroids when evidence says otherwise is wrong
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Meso_z on July 08, 2009, 09:16:23 AM
The father that refuses to even consider or accept scientific evidence that his son killed himself because of any other reason, I feel for the man who lost his son but blaming it on steroids when evidence says otherwise is wrong

people are just too stubborn
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: nicky.smth on July 08, 2009, 09:25:14 AM
i don't know what to say about this article.. :-X
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: nicky.smth on July 08, 2009, 09:33:51 AM
They werent steroids...

It's as false a story as that kid who killed himself and his father that goes around preaching against steroids...

hi Don Hooton,



Like eminem says, "where were the parents"
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 08, 2009, 09:35:23 AM
Nobody's bringing up the point that it's not that hard to pass the physical tests to get in.

And certainly, you don't need steroids LOL.

This story is in the UK, but, to pass the US marines physical fitness test, he would need, according to web sites:

1.) 3 pull ups
2.) 50 crunches
3.) 3 mile run in 28:00

Plus, you get plenty of chances and they let you work on it, it's hard to get your ass thrown out for that.

dear god.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: nicky.smth on July 08, 2009, 09:38:43 AM
Points a finger at me (finger at me)..
So I point one back at 'em, but not the index or pinkie
Or the ring or the thumb, it's the one you put up
When you don't give a fuck, when you won't just put up
With the bullshit they pull, cause they full of shit too
When a dude's gettin bullied and shoots up his school
And they blame it on Marilyn (on Marilyn).. and the heroin
Where were the parents at? And look where it's at
Middle America, now it's a tragedy
Now it's so sad to see, an upper class ci-ty
Havin this happenin (this happenin)..

Then attack Eminem cause I rap this way (rap this way)..
But I'm glad cause they feed me the fuel that I need for the fire
To burn and it's burnin and I have returned
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Tapeworm on July 08, 2009, 09:42:55 AM
Nobody's bringing up the point that it's not that hard to pass the physical tests to get in.

And certainly, you don't need steroids LOL.

This story is in the UK, but, to pass the US marines physical fitness test, he would need, according to web sites:

1.) 3 pull ups
2.) 50 crunches
3.) 3 mile run in 28:00

Plus, you get plenty of chances and they let you work on it, it's hard to get your ass thrown out for that.

dear god.

I think it's different over there.  They won't just take anyone who signs the dotted line. 
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 08, 2009, 09:51:36 AM
They werent steroids...

It's as false a story as that kid who killed himself and his father that goes around preaching against steroids...

Mike Quinn sided with the father, said the kid definitely killed himself because of steroids.

Mike also said steroids made him psychotic.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: nicky.smth on July 08, 2009, 09:58:57 AM
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2009/0/0/matt-dear-pic-dm-image-1-251021578.jpg)

What a shame! Took enough "steroids" to end up like this, but apparently not enough to build any amount of muscle at all. He looks like he'd never touched a weight in his life!

he was carb depleting, and glycogen stores were depleted..that's why he looked so flat..
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 08, 2009, 10:02:37 AM
Mike Quinn sided with the father, said the kid definitely killed himself because of steroids.

Mike also said steroids made him psychotic.

Did Mike forget about all the cocaine he snorted ::)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 08, 2009, 10:07:02 AM
Mike Quinn sided with the father, said the kid definitely killed himself because of steroids.

Mike also said steroids made him psychotic.

Well if Mike Quinn says so, it must be true.  ::)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 08, 2009, 10:07:22 AM
Did Mike forget about all the cocaine he snorted ::)

Yeah I know. I do think that if there's mental illness steroids can exacerbate it. They are psychoactive, no doubt.

Well if Mike Quinn says so, it must be true.  ::)

For him it's true. If he says steroids affect his mood I don't doubt it. As far as the kid, don't know.
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 08, 2009, 10:08:37 AM
he was carb depleting, and glycogen stores were depleted..that's why he looked so flat..

The conditioning judges demand of bodybuilders nowadays is just brutal.  :(
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Schmoe Buster on July 08, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
Yeah I know. I do think that if there's mental illness steroids can exacerbate it. They are psychoactive, no doubt.

Mike Quinn was born a fruitcake, people always look for excuses for their own shortcomings, he blames steroids and rides the fashionable anti steroid bandwagon ::)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 08, 2009, 10:22:04 AM
Mike Quinn was born a fruitcake, people always look for excuses for their own shortcomings, he blames steroids and rides the fashionable anti steroid bandwagon ::)

Even completely healthy people can have negative mental effects from steroids. The truth is somewhere in the middle, they don't make you a psycho killer but can affect mood, cause heavy anxiety even in the stable individual.

See this for example, they aren't all complete born fruitcakes:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48845
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Croatch on July 08, 2009, 10:31:19 AM
The argument should be made, if steroids were legal, he could have just went to a doctor, like all the other failed gym goers. ;)
His parents can rest more easily knowing, he was in the majority.  Most people can't do much in a gym on their own.  Remember kids, if you need steroids to achieve in a gym...you have failed. ;)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Sir Humphrey on July 08, 2009, 11:18:37 AM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bob_icu1sm.jpg)
Title: Re: British Teen Died from Steroids
Post by: Dreadlifter on July 08, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
I think it's different over there.  They won't just take anyone who signs the dotted line. 

Definitely a lot more hardcore than the US Marines entry requirement. An elite unit rather than just regular joes, more similar to S.E.A.L. training.

I don't mean to speak ill of the kid, but what's wrong with good old fashioned hard work? He paid the ultimate price.