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Title: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: UGMT on September 17, 2009, 06:51:59 AM
I have to admit I almost always order the UFC ppvs and very rarely these days will I pay for a Boxing PPV unless it's a real superfight or stacked card. I'm wondering; whose ordering what, if anything this Saturday? I'm still torn between the two.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: K-1 on September 17, 2009, 08:41:08 AM
I'm buying the mayweather/JMM fight. Nice after a full day of college football.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: George Whorewell on September 17, 2009, 09:26:48 AM
Off topic and I dont know if someone else posted about this--- Did anyone watch Marquez drink his own piss on Meywether Marquez 24/7?

Geezus christ-- that is one determined mofo, although it seems like there are better beverages he could drink to recover. I think someone else posted that Machida does the same thing?
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on September 17, 2009, 10:04:38 AM
Off topic and I dont know if someone else posted about this--- Did anyone watch Marquez drink his own piss on Meywether Marquez 24/7?

Geezus christ-- that is one determined mofo, although it seems like there are better beverages he could drink to recover. I think someone else posted that Machida does the same thing?

Alot of fighters are know for Urine Therapy, Machida,Marquez, Luke Cummo (he's been doin it for years), and even Vitali Klitschko (although he uses it differently, and it's not his own piss, apparenlty he rubs his infant sons urine on his face to strengthen his skin, wierd)
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on September 17, 2009, 10:05:44 AM
I'm watching Mayweather/Marquez and I'm catchin the free UFC 103 prelim fights on spike.  The rest I'll find on the net tommorrow.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MindSpin on September 17, 2009, 10:14:51 AM
You couldn't pay me to watch the Mayweather fight.  UFC without hesitation.  Why anyone would want to watch 12 rounds of Mayther's antics is beyond me.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: K-1 on September 17, 2009, 10:15:29 AM
Off topic and I dont know if someone else posted about this--- Did anyone watch Marquez drink his own piss on Meywether Marquez 24/7?

Geezus christ-- that is one determined mofo, although it seems like there are better beverages he could drink to recover. I think someone else posted that Machida does the same thing?

yeah saw that. It won't kill him but I've never heard of any claims or benefits internally by this. Externally, I was told morning first am urine is good for acne cases (toxins) and for feet...but internal enrichment...nope.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: K-1 on September 17, 2009, 10:27:53 AM
Why anyone would want to watch 12 rounds of Mayther's antics is beyond me.

He may not appeal to the blood and guts fans.....but there are some of us who appreciate his skill set. He's mastered that style of fighting, and I would consider him a master boxer indeed. Not a fan, but his skill set is tremendous.

I don't see them as antics. I see razor sharp punches, rolling of the shoulders, slips, pull counters, jabs, body work, movement...the total package when it comes to "boxing"...and again......I'm not even a fan of the guy but he is top of the line when it comes to pure boxing. 
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MindSpin on September 17, 2009, 11:29:47 AM
He may not appeal to the blood and guts fans.....but there are some of us who appreciate his skill set. He's mastered that style of fighting, and I would consider him a master boxer indeed. Not a fan, but his skill set is tremendous.

I don't see them as antics. I see razor sharp punches, rolling of the shoulders, slips, pull counters, jabs, body work, movement...the total package when it comes to "boxing"...and again......I'm not even a fan of the guy but he is top of the line when it comes to pure boxing. 

Talented as he may be, I don't find his boxing style entertaining.  What appeals to me, is what would work in a real world fight where there are no score cards and you can't win by "points". 
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: K-1 on September 17, 2009, 01:13:41 PM
Talented as he may be, I don't find his boxing style entertaining.  What appeals to me, is what would work in a real world fight where there are no score cards and you can't win by "points". 

Finding it entertaining is one thing...alot of people don't like boxing, but to think knowing how to box wouldn't benefit in a "real world situation" in some way or fashion is not ideal. not looking for points then....one left hook to the body and the foe is shutting down 10/10 real world.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on September 17, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
People can argue about this all day, alot of people are buying this card in support of Marquez as well.  His style of boxing not a cowardly one like Mayweathers.  He's not afraid to mix it up, and when he smells blood he can finish with the best of them.  Although I think his chances aren't that great against Mayweather, I am curious to see how his style matches up against Floyd's.  Dana is giving people a chance to pay $45.00 for an injury riddled card that should have been free on Spike, not just the 2 prelims.  There is no title fights and none of the fights even have title implications.  They are giving alot of those tickets away all over Dallas and the Dallas area, (which says something because most of the recent UFC's were sellouts almost immediately).  I can confidently say the PPV buys beteween these two events will either be neck and neck, or the boxing will come out on top.  
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: Geo on September 17, 2009, 01:35:50 PM
I'm going with Mayweather/Marquez


Juarez/John II and  Katsidis/Esobedo should be a good fights also
 
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on September 17, 2009, 01:37:37 PM
I'm going with Mayweather/Marquez


Jaurez/John II should be a good fight also

Did they do away with Zab afterall, I haven't heard anything?
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: Geo on September 17, 2009, 01:39:23 PM
Did they do away with Zab afterall, I haven't heard anything?

don't think it's listed on Boxrec...

fuck Zab anyways...personally he'll never be a reason to buy a PPV
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on September 17, 2009, 01:43:41 PM
don't think it's listed on Boxrec...

fuck Zab anyways...personally he'll never be a reason to buy a PPV

I was just curious because he was supposed to fight Ricky Hattons little bro, would have been funny to see.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: UGMT on September 17, 2009, 01:53:05 PM
The whole thing is for me, like K-1 said is that Mayweather is just a great boxer, pure and simple. I'm a huge Marquez fan and he is very courageous but I don't think he's gonna have much for PBF.  Chris John is on there too and he's as good a counterpuncher as probably anyone,ever. So there's two amazingly skilled guys on there that if your a FAN of boxing, it just doesn't get any better too watch. Maybe if the UFC had a better main event it would be a different story, but I really don't care for Rich Franklin at all and quite frankly I think Dos Santos v Cro Cop is the more interesting fight.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MindSpin on September 17, 2009, 03:12:28 PM
Finding it entertaining is one thing...alot of people don't like boxing, but to think knowing how to box wouldn't benefit in a "real world situation" in some way or fashion is not ideal. not looking for points then....one left hook to the body and the foe is shutting down 10/10 real world.


No one is disputing that boxing is a hugely valuable skill to have.  But, if you're a pure boxer like Mayweather, and you run into a well rounded mixed martial artist like Ken Flo or BJ for a street fight, I'm willing to bet my left nut that Mayweather would be tapping in under 5 minutes. 
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on September 17, 2009, 04:18:51 PM
MMA has score cards and fighters win on points all the time, and no one is debating that a well rounded mixed martial artist wouldn't beat a top boxer, and what kind of "real world" situation would involve Floyd Mayweather running into Ken-Flo/Penn on the street and fighting them anyways?  This is about a weak ass MMA card being peddled for $45.00 against one of the better boxing PPV's so far this year.  For what it's worth Ken-Flo has been know to do the same shit Floyd does, Bj Penn even commented on it after their fight, he said something like "I would just flinch my fingers and he would run away like 10 feet".  He did it against Roger Huerta too, that shit is cowardess on the same level, and it's not entertaining.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: George Whorewell on September 17, 2009, 08:36:50 PM
Agreed.

For me though, I was raised on boxing from the time I was 5 years old. My pops would occasionally put on UFC but my mother wouldnt let me watch ( this was back when there were no rules). So I grew up watching Sugar Ray Leonard, Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Julio Ceasar Chavez, Macho Camacho, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins and all the great boxers of the late 80's- late 90's. Hate him or not, Floyd is one of the greatest of all time and he is fighting a very tough, very respectible opponent in Marquez. I love watching MMA- But there really is nothing like a really great boxing match.

Unless it was Fedor/ Lesnar or Machida/ Silva or some other dreamcard, theres no way I'd miss this fight.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MB_722 on September 17, 2009, 08:40:47 PM
and even Vitali Klitschko (although he uses it differently, and it's not his own piss, apparenlty he rubs his infant sons urine on his face to strengthen his skin, wierd)

do you have a link. I'm a huge fan of the Klitschko's and have never heard this before  :o  :D
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: regmac on September 17, 2009, 08:41:36 PM
I'm buying the mayweather/JMM fight. Nice after a full day of college football.

I want  JMMto spit his pee filled mouthpiece out at Mayweather's face!!!
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MoralMan on September 18, 2009, 02:54:54 AM
ANd Mindspin i bet if you fucked with Mayweather youd be on your back out cold within 5 seconds
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: *ChuteBoxe* on September 18, 2009, 08:54:36 AM
do you have a link. I'm a huge fan of the Klitschko's and have never heard this before  :o  :D

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3642788

Not the one I originally read, but he talks about it here.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MB_722 on September 18, 2009, 09:00:19 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3642788

Not the one I originally read, but he talks about it here.

cool, thanks :D
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MindSpin on September 18, 2009, 09:41:28 AM
ANd Mindspin i bet if you fucked with Mayweather youd be on your back out cold within 5 seconds

What does that have to do with anything ???
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 18, 2009, 07:30:52 PM
What does that have to do with anything ???

He was just trying to not make a point and he did it really well.
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: regmac on September 18, 2009, 07:39:35 PM
I'm buying the mayweather/JMM fight. Nice after a full day of college football.

I am still thinking about calling the cable company.....I just hate paying Oscar  for rhetorical fights.   Floydd is going to win the ez'st way possible and the under card sucks ....but I like watching both fight.   
Title: Re: UFC 103 vs Mayweather/Marquez
Post by: MindSpin on September 20, 2009, 10:10:43 PM
He was just trying to not make a point and he did it really well.

What does Maywether's ability to kick my ass have anything to do with wether or not UFC 103 is more entertaining than the Mayweather/Marquez fight?