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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: New York on May 12, 2005, 03:31:05 PM
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Granted, Lee is a great Bodybuilder.Arguably the greatest small(5'5 under} bodybuilder in history.But how in the world did he beat chris at this show? I just seen the pics and it seems as though chris murdered him.I know that its his home country but it's still a physique show and chris had this one hands down.
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Lee Preist won because his conditioning was the best it has been in his career.Pitures do not do him justice he looks like a cartoon character,an absolute freak weighing 200 pound at 5,4 as i have said before is mindblowing.
I think the judges rewarded Preist the win because his conditioning was spot on.
I am a big Chris Cormier fan but his physique has not changed since the 99MrO.I do not believe Chris murdered Preist on stage but i agree if Chris Cormier improved his physique with 20 more pounds on his near flawless X frame he would never lose to Preist or Cutler and be heir to the MrO title.
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I agree that lee's condition was the best that i've seen him present onstage including more detailed hams and glutes, but imo it was'nt enough to overpower the mass symmetry and detail of cormier who has ALSO improved since his last few outings.
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the same way the Celtics always won at the Garden during the Bird era
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I agree that lee's condition was the best that i've seen him present onstage including more detailed hams and glutes, but imo it was'nt enough to overpower the mass symmetry and detail of cormier who has ALSO improved since his last few outings.
I agree partialy if Cormier is on and his conditioning is spot on there are only two bodybuiders who can beat him Cutler,Coleman but both these bodybuilders have made significant improvements in the last 2 to 3 years where as Cormier has stagnated.
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My only problem with Cormier is he, in most contests, lacks the striations in his upper body muscles that appear in some of the more ripped competitors. I won't go so far as to call him smooth but I think he could do better. Other than that his overall physique is so balanced, & well known, that fans & judges may be getting bored of it.
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Lee won because it held it Australia.
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True,i agree that the film of water leaves chris' cuts a little marred to the eye but lee has a midgets body so to speak ,and his arms overpower the rest of his upper body.Should his recent improvement merit him the win over a total physique such as cormiers?
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Simple he was out of shape.Sometimes 80% will not cut it you need to be 100%,same as the San Fran when he lost.Anyone can lose on any day if you snooze you loose.
So get over it move on.oh yes it was in australia that's why i won yes i have heard that.I wonder how many shows Americans have won because it was held here and they came up through the ranks here? ;D
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Simple he was out of shape.Sometimes 80% will not cut it you need to be 100%,same as the San Fran when he lost.Anyone can lose on any day if you snooze you loose.
So get over it move on.oh yes it was in australia that's why i won yes i have heard that.I wonder how many shows Americans have won because it was held here and they came up through the ranks here? ;D
very true
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Simple he was out of shape.Sometimes 80% will not cut it you need to be 100%,same as the San Fran when he lost.Anyone can lose on any day if you snooze you loose.
So get over it move on.oh yes it was in australia that's why i won yes i have heard that.I wonder how many shows Americans have won because it was held here and they came up through the ranks here? ;D
I do believe you deserved the win.
But if two competitors are neck in neck, home field advantage is huge. Did you as a competitor give more effort to this show knowing it is in your backyard? I have to believe you have contests that you favor and had the best results from.
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Thats been Chris' problem most of his career his conditioning always kicks him in the ass , he has all the tools to be competitive but like Flex Wheeler he is his own biggest enemy.
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cormier has been screwed more than Jenna Jameson. :'(
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Ive seen CC prep a few days before a show and beleive me, he leaves A LOT until the last minute.
Like Im talking serious cardio the day before the show while everyone else is carbing up....
That would explain his "mysterious" problem with conditioning.
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I'm happy Lee won. I wouldn't have lost sleep with the decision going either way. Lee's glutes were even shredded which was a career best.
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I saw the pictures and didn't have a problem with Lee Priest winning it. He was a tad sharper and outsmuscled Chris in many poses.
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Congrats Lee! You also deserved atleast 3rd at the Arnold! very impressive.
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cormier has been screwed more than Jenna Jameson. :'(
true. but at least she gets done by a woman now and then.
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Lee deserved it whether it was in Austalia or the North Pole. Chris is one of my favorites but he was WAY off. Lee nailed it. Congrats!
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You would not believe how strong national pride is in this country.
That being said generally its "fair".
Still, under the circumstances it was definitely lee's show to lose.
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will i was there in the vip section
and lee won because he condition was awsome
and chris was holding water and lee was ripped
in my opion chris shouldnt have been 2 he should have been lower
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Chris "Smooth" Cormier, gets gifts on a regular basis.
That's a fcuking fact.
If he were correctly placed on a regular basis, perhaps the most gifted bodybuilder in IFBB would get his lazy shit together and do everything perfect for not only 1 month, or 3 months, but for 12 months or 18 months.
That is what most of us who train serious do.
To just train isn't gonna cut it.
Lee looked incredible as well. The judges in the bigger contests needs to wake up. Lee, if entering, should be in the running for a top 4 placing at the Mr Olympia, if the IFBB is gonna act out their new rules.
But I doubt they will. They are gonna give the Sandow to Anaconda, so they can have a 10-time winner. It has a nice ring to it.
YIP
Zack
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Chris "Smooth" Cormier, gets gifts on a regular basis.
That's a fcuking fact.
He was raped at the '04 ASC.
YIP,
BBFAN1
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Chris "Smooth" Cormier, gets gifts on a regular basis.
That's a fcuking fact.
If he were correctly placed on a regular basis, perhaps the most gifted bodybuilder in IFBB would get his lazy shit together and do everything perfect for not only 1 month, or 3 months, but for 12 months or 18 months.
That is what most of us who train serious do.
To just train isn't gonna cut it.
I know everyone on here considers themselves "hardcore", but I don't know if you want to proclaim that you are more dedicated and have a better work ethic than a pro bodybuilder like Chris Cormier.
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I just looked back at past Australian photos that Chris won and yes.After the Arnold he thinks oh well the big show is over i can relax i am the big name in Australia so i will win.Well knowing that i just stayed in shape and got better ,yes also going home for the first time to compete since i was pro also helped me stay focused.I have always said chris get gifts coming in 80%.If like you said he got what he deserved he might get his ass in to shape and be the best he can.That way there are no compliants .Chris has one of the best bodies out there but you must bring the whole package to a show.Hey i would have loved to see Chris win because i know how bad he wants it.But when you go up against Dexter and the like you must come it at your very best(not what your friends tell you) so there is no arguement you should win.
lee
lee
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respect lee u da man
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Chris "Smooth" Cormier, gets gifts on a regular basis.
That's a fcuking fact.
If he were correctly placed on a regular basis, perhaps the most gifted bodybuilder in IFBB would get his lazy shit together and do everything perfect for not only 1 month, or 3 months, but for 12 months or 18 months.
That is what most of us who train serious do.
To just train isn't gonna cut it.
Lee looked incredible as well. The judges in the bigger contests needs to wake up. Lee, if entering, should be in the running for a top 4 placing at the Mr Olympia, if the IFBB is gonna act out their new rules.
But I doubt they will. They are gonna give the Sandow to Anaconda, so they can have a 10-time winner. It has a nice ring to it.
YIP
Zack
Yeah, but he has also been shafted when he deserves to win. Even though it was super close in both shows, Cormier should have won the ASC this year and last. Also, he should have won the O in 99.
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Cormier is a great competitor...BUT.... Lee won because the judges were objective and placed our own GETBIG Aussie where he should be and where he should have been all along. If judges would get over the height factor, we'd see alot of the shorter guys coming in higher.
Lee- your conditioning was flawless.
Mike
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...If judges would get over the height factor, we'd see alot of the shorter guys coming in higher.
Lee- you're conditioning was flawless.
Mike
I agree...If Lee had the same body type at 6 foot, i really think he would already have a lot of trophies...The guy its a freak and is a mass monster, despite the height factor
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I agree. Also I would have thought that with Cormier's history in the show he would have been just as much of a favourite as Lee, so if Lee kills him - which he did - then it's fair and square.
P.S. I know arms aren't everything but it says a lot when Cormier's arms are made to look small by Lee's. :o
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here are some pics i took at the show..the first pic shows his awesome conditioning..the second is where hes talkin to the promoter tony doherty bout the win etc.
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I think we need pics for the Aussie debate...
--I seen one pic from Austrailia , and lee looked phenomenal!! Im the biggest Cormier fan, but i think Lee won this battle.
--CC should of won the last two AC and the one in 2002 (Jays first AC win)
--CC Mr. O 99
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I thought Lee won fair and square. But I think that Rockel guy should have had second with Cormier 3rd
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people say corimer gets screwed alot ( i think hes over rated) but hes been given alot of gifts becuase of his name too. ive seen him place ahead of alot of other pros in contests when he was smooth and flat.
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Yeah, but he has also been shafted when he deserves to win. Even though it was super close in both shows, Cormier should have won the ASC this year and last. Also, he should have won the O in 99.
Last year he didn't deserve the ASC. Raphael Dexter did. Looked incredible.
Mr O 99 however, I totally agree. Cormier looks to have been the best man that night, and looking at the contest on video, it appears as a he won decisively. Not easily, but it looked to be an easy call.
Apparently not.
YIP
Zack
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Lee always looks good.
(http://img241.echo.cx/img241/7109/p41751994bj.jpg)
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Lee always looks good.
(http://img241.echo.cx/img241/7109/p41751994bj.jpg)
Yes. Totally... ;D
YIP
Zack
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More Pictures of the aussie contest.
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Raphael
:)
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hi lee i think u are the best ,could you please tell us what u changed in order to get that extra tight look,specially in the legs??a fan from spain.
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Yes. Totally... ;D
YIP
Zack
Don't hate on Lee Hedge.
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Unfortunately BB has to judge height too. It's just how it is. You can't get around it.
Genetics give Ronnie a gut, and Lee his height and Jay his blocky waist. ALL factors must be considered - although no doubt if Lee was 6'0 he would be winning far more.
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cormier has been screwed more than Jenna Jameson. :'(
I dont think so :P
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too put it plain and simple chris cormier and lee priest have been screwed more times in their career than jenna jamesons been fucked.
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too put it plain and simple chris cormier and lee priest have been screwed more times in their career than jenna jamesons been f**ked.
This Jenna Jameson, was she a top competitive bodybuilder?
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You can say what you want about Lee but he always shows up in shape.
(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/gallery/male/Jones-4.jpg)
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You can say what you want about Lee but he always shows up in shape.
True. He only ever had one bad show and it was the '03 Olympia. He ate a two boxes of glazed donuts before the show then went on to kill it at the '04 Ironman.
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All though I like Cormiers structure way better, it could have gone either way. When Lee gets ripped he gets RIPPED.
He had homecourt advantage...it makes a difference when your the best bodybuilder to ever come out of Australia. Its differen't than the the states. Don't ask me why...it just is.
Lee shouldn't have anything taken away from him on this win. He won thats what matters. He shouldn't have to defend himself for what the judges thought.
Lee...You Da Man!
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This Jenna Jameson, was she a top competitive bodybuilder?
Jenna Jameson is a X rated porn star.
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I still don't know how Cormier managed to beat out Lee at the Arnold. Priest looked fantastic there as well...Cormier faded big time at the night show.
That is all.
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You can say what you want about Lee but he always shows up in shape.
(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/gallery/male/Jones-4.jpg)
I dont think that is Lee Priest!
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LOL!!! ;D ;D ;D
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This Jenna Jameson, was she a top competitive bodybuilder?
It's possible. She enjoys hours of physical activity, likes to bang skanks, and has a high protein diet. Sounds like a BBer to me...
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It's possible THAT IM A LIAR. She enjoys hours of BEING LIED TO, likes LIARS, LIKE ME, and has a high LIE VALUE SYSTEM. Sounds like a LIARS DREAM to me...
Fu_ck.
You just cant stop, can you?
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I dont think that is Lee Priest!
Don't hate, Lee deserves better.
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Mars you ironic guy, this is round 2 of this joke. ;D
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Cormier always looks good a week out form a show but some how smooths out. I'm glad to see Lee did his homework came in bigger and tighter. He definately should have won. It's all about condition.
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It's all about condition.
Yeah, proportions and symmetry shouldn't count for anything. ::)
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Granted, Lee is a great Bodybuilder.Arguably the greatest small(5'5 under} bodybuilder in history.But how in the world did he beat chris at this show? I just seen the pics and it seems as though chris murdered him.I know that its his home country but it's still a physique show and chris had this one hands down.
Because that night, Lee was on and Chris was off.
BB is the competition based on the show day's condition.
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I actually was at this event and am a little surprised at Cormiers infantile reaction to him being beaten by Lee whose conditioning and hardness was far superior to Cormiers. I actually thought Ronnie Rockel was going to beat Cormier as his conditioning was also superior. Lee has in the past come into shows with a ripped upper body and smoother legs, but Lee's overall conditioning was AWESOME. Ripped everywhere , including his hamstrings and Glutes. Lee's Biceps, tricep, forearm, abdominal and calf development were far superior to Cormiers. Lee holds more muscle on his frame than Cormier and I believe is better balanced. Lee also spent the most time of all of the pros with the fans signing autographs and posing for photo opportunities. It's a shame that an individual that is as physically gifted as Cormier, shows such a poor attitude towards his fellow competitors. I was there and Lee Won fair and square.
Here are some pics from the show
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Granted, Lee is a great Bodybuilder.Arguably the greatest small(5'5 under} bodybuilder in history.But how in the world did he beat chris at this show? I just seen the pics and it seems as though chris murdered him.I know that its his home country but it's still a physique show and chris had this one hands down.
hi chris...or friend there of...
Lee won..
get over it..
what a fucking ghetto douche...
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I just seen the pics
And I've seen the video. Sorry, but Lee looked a tad bit better than Chris that particular day.
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If "Biggest head" was a sub-category, then Cormier wouldn't lose this side of Goliath, but it isn't.
Cormier needs to either retire his ass or stop doing things half-assed. Getting 2nd place with shitty condition like that... FFS.
YIP
Zack
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If "Biggest head" was a sub-category, then Cormier wouldn't lose this side of Goliath, but it isn't.
Cormier needs to either retire his ass or stop doing things half-assed. Getting 2nd place with shitty condition like that... FFS.
YIP
Zack
second place is still $ bro..its still fame..its still drugs n ass n the lifestyle... ;)
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FFS=for fucks sake?
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Granted, Lee is a great Bodybuilder.Arguably the greatest small(5'5 under} bodybuilder in history.But how in the world did he beat chris at this show? I just seen the pics and it seems as though chris murdered him.I know that its his home country but it's still a physique show and chris had this one hands down.
Lee is an australian version of a redneck, rat-soup eatin, honky motherfucka, and so were the judges. Lee is good but Chris is better. Chris has a much more aesthetic physique.
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Lee is an australian version of a redneck, rat-soup eatin, honky motherfucka, and so were the judges. Lee is good but Chris is better. Chris has a much more aesthetic physique.
Rainbow hasn't showed up in great condition since... Well, in a very long time. Even when he was shafted out of the 2004 ASC, he wasn't in 100% condition, because if he was, nobody could touch him.
Cormier is that good.
Unfortunately, Cormier looks like shyte these days, in comparison to what he brought to the stage back in 1999.
Cormier was lucky to get 2nd. Perhaps he should've been placed 4th. No way was he better than Rockel.
YIP
Zack
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Rainbow hasn't showed up in great condition since... Well, in a very long time. Even when he was shafted out of the 2004 ASC, he wasn't in 100% condition, because if he was, nobody could touch him.
Cormier is that good.
Unfortunately, Cormier looks like shyte these days, in comparison to what he brought to the stage back in 1999.
Cormier was lucky to get 2nd. Perhaps he should've been placed 4th. No way was he better than Rockel.
YIP
Zack
I don't think chris really gives a shit about competing. probably hates it. does it because he has to. he hates competing even more than bob chick it seems.
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I don't think chris really gives a shit about competing. probably hates it. does it because he has to. he hates competing even more than bob chick it seems.
Yup. I think t's getting to that point for him.
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What he should do is just get in shape for the Arnold where he is guaranteed a second place spot and 50 thousand dollars (correct me if I'm wrong about that prize money).
50 thou is almost a decent yearly salary right there and he'll make up the rest with his money from MD and other endorsements as well as winning some of the lesser grand prix shows which run around the same time as the Arnold for 10K or 4K for second place. Then he can party the rest of the time and only worry about getting in shape once a year.
yeah, it seems like he basically does that anyway considering his last Mr O performance. I mean it doesn't look like he tries to get into decent shape for that show. I wonder why he competes in it at all.
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Granted, Lee is a great Bodybuilder.Arguably the greatest small(5'5 under} bodybuilder in history.But how in the world did he beat chris at this show? I just seen the pics and it seems as though chris murdered him.I know that its his home country but it's still a physique show and chris had this one hands down.
Hey lost because he was softer than Lee was, simple.
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True,i agree that the film of water leaves chris' cuts a little marred to the eye but lee has a midgets body so to speak ,and his arms overpower the rest of his upper body.Should his recent improvement merit him the win over a total physique such as cormiers?
He did his homework, and even for his height--Lee has decent symmetry. Chris wasn't spot on, and he left the door open for him to lose in Lee's home country.
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No idea. We always hear talk about Chris' potential or "Just wait and see what happens when he comes in in shape" but will that ever happen? He's 38 going on 39 and the window of opportunity for improvement is closing.
LOL!
Two years later, we're still yammering about Chris cormier's potential...
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You can say what you want about Lee but he always shows up in shape.
(http://www.gmv.com.au/images/gallery/male/Jones-4.jpg)
Thanks Nick jones u you idiot
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Thats*
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Lee kicked his ass fair any square
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Cormier is fat, lazy and stupid-period. The guy is a disgrace.