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I have had several sprains myself as far as my back is concerned but i never felt i needed a back specialist. Recently my wife started feeling her back bugging her a bit and she started seeing this chiropractor. The woman wants to see her on a biweekly basis and my wife is convinced she is helping her. I personally think she is just milking money out of her and pretty much wants my wife to be her lifelong customer.
If my wife really has a serious back issue shouldnt be seeing a real doctor because from what i have seen nothing short of surgery truly helps and my wife claims to just have minor pain occasionally. Does anyone have any experience with these supposed "Doctors" and do they really help ??? I just feel like we are getting SCAMMED. Personally i think that money would be better spent on a massage therapist instead of a chiropractor.
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Everyone's got to earn a buck.
Return bizzness keeps the boat-a-float.
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The only "Diagnosis" she got was that she should come in ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS and then she will put her on a "MAINTENANCE" schedule which will be once a month. We dont have health insurance and i think its fucking retarded to get ripped off like this. She only said her spine was OUT OF LINE/ ALIGNMENT and it would be better eventually. She didnt even xray her so how the fuck does she know its out of alignment anyway? Btw my wife is only 23 years old with NO MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
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If you are unsure about this chiro tell her to go get a second opinion from someone else.
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The only "Diagnosis" she got was that she should come in ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS and then she will put her on a "MAINTENANCE" schedule which will be once a month. We dont have health insurance and i think its fucking retarded to get ripped off like this. She only said her spine was OUT OF LINE/ ALIGNMENT and it would be better eventually. She didnt even xray her so how the fuck does she know its out of alignment anyway? Btw my wife is only 23 years old with NO MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
Yeah seek a second opinion. But as you said earlier, you are probably better off just going to some thai/sports remedial massage. Its much cheaper, and very effective.
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This is a quote from Ken Sprague who owned golds gym in the 70's regarding chiros...
I can remember back in the '70s when the written portion of the chiropractic exam was taken (surreptitiously) by the future chiropractors wife---he did the practical "manipulation" portion of the exam.
Of course, there was Cleveland Chiropractic College in LA which turned out most chiropractors at that time---high school diplomas weren't required and I knew several clearly retarded bodybuilders exploited through admission. The first attempt to read the text books sent them packing.
And in the 1980s, I owned a gym that leased space to a chiro and MD for 75% of the gross---the gym drew potential customers who had nurses as trainers; insurance covered the first 16 "therapy/workouts." All in all, it was a profitable venture---the chiro billed $35K his first month and $60K his second, not bad "rental" for <1000 square feet.
I was always amazed that everyone who walked into the chiropractic area "had a rib out"--- those statistics indicate that Los Angelenos were walking wrecks, or perhaps, profit had something to do w/ diagnoses.
Personally, I'm not a believer in chiropractic.
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chiropractic adjustement is usefull
if you think it's a rip off then don't fucking go
take responsability for your choices
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the obvious way to get back at your wife's chiropractor is to have sex with him
end of thread
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pics of the wife?
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Wife sounds like a dumb bitch, most likely is, have you spoken to the wife about how u feel or are u just a bitch.
WTF kind of advice are you looking for from Getbiggers?
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Its a scam.
Chiros are not medically qualified doctors. They may hang a few certificates to state they are "licensed chiropracters" or done some kind of course, but the whole thing is a scam, with a very doubious and unclear scientific basis, especially those who talk about "energy flows", "spine allignment" etc.
Best case scenario, your wife is getting a bit of a massage and spending a bit of money, but at worst she is being scammed and possibly even risks being injured.
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In all essence it can not even exist, the spine is not 'adjustable'. If it were we would be collapsing left and right
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You allow your wife to spend you money? Whow... just whow
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I think it all depends on what the problem is. I wouldn't go to one who didn't do an x-ray. Maybe your wife just likes to have another woman touch her in that way?
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Who is paying for it?
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I have had several sprains myself as far as my back is concerned but i never felt i needed a back specialist. Recently my wife started feeling her back bugging her a bit and she started seeing this chiropractor. The woman wants to see her on a biweekly basis and my wife is convinced she is helping her. I personally think she is just milking money out of her and pretty much wants my wife to be her lifelong customer.
If my wife really has a serious back issue shouldnt be seeing a real doctor because from what i have seen nothing short of surgery truly helps and my wife claims to just have minor pain occasionally. Does anyone have any experience with these supposed "Doctors" and do they really help ??? I just feel like we are getting SCAMMED. Personally i think that money would be better spent on a massage therapist instead of a chiropractor.
Chiropractors will heel you, but then purposly fuck you up so you have to keep going back to see them and they can keep taking your $$$. Fact.
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sounds like you are getting some good advice here, I am in the business as well. I am fucking 90% of my female clients, thats the kind of back adjustments they really need.
hope this helps.
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Its a scam.
Chiros are not medically qualified doctors. They may hang a few certificates to state they are "licensed chiropracters" or done some kind of course, but the whole thing is a scam, with a very doubious and unclear scientific basis, especially those who talk about "energy flows", "spine allignment" etc.
Best case scenario, your wife is getting a bit of a massage and spending a bit of money, but at worst she is being scammed and possibly even risks being injured.
Chiropractors do not claim to be medical doctors. So, of course your first statement is true. Have you ever investigated the curriculum of a chiropractor? Have you ever compared the research out for chiropractic care versus medical care? Are you aware that less than 30% of all medical procedures have been researched? Its most often something one doctor came up with and had some success with? Are you aware that coronary bypass surgery is the most common unnecessary surgery? Squib/Bristol Meyer had to pay a HUGE fine for giving doctor kickbacks for prescribing their drugs. Even the doctors in HMO's are under investigation for ordering tests because they get kickbacks. These guys are there just punching a clock...not really doing anything to diagnose properly.
Yeah, chiropractors are the scammers. ::)
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ive been to a few, and all I know it feels fucking AMAZING when I leave.
So thats good enough for me.
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www.activerelease.com
combination of massage, stretching and electricity. Milos recommended it to me and it solved a shoulder issue that had plagued me for months - in a single session.
you can find a doc near you at the link above. it saved milos just hours before he was up for rotator cuff surgery.
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ive been to a few, and all I know it feels fucking AMAZING when I leave.
So thats good enough for me.
He's talking about chiropractors, not asian massages. Sheesh!
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yeah, I think he is giving your wife the hot beef injection :-X 8)
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Your GP is not going to be able to do anything for you wife; he'll literally be next to clueless in regards to this issue. Some chiros are great. The diagnosis your wife got is a relatively normal one-although once every two weeks sounds like about two weeks more often than what I've come to understand is best:a period of intense adjusting and then more like 1x per month.
An adjustment is a fast way of getting you out of pain, that's a fact...there's been plenty of times I couldn't walk or sit and an adjustment did the trick and I was fine. Although, the underlying factor is still usually muscular so what she should really be doing is seeing a physical therapist as well. Last, back surgery is still something to be relatively weary of and only done as a last option.
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www.activerelease.com
combination of massage, stretching and electricity. Milos recommended it to me and it solved a shoulder issue that had plagued me for months - in a single session.
you can find a doc near you at the link above. it saved milos just hours before he was up for rotator cuff surgery.
can you give me a similar link for hrt clinics?
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www.activerelease.com
combination of massage, stretching and electricity. Milos recommended it to me and it solved a shoulder issue that had plagued me for months - in a single session.
you can find a doc near you at the link above. it saved milos just hours before he was up for rotator cuff surgery.
This would get my vote. Sounds very similar to treatment I received at an osteopath. 5-10 minutes and a back injury I struggled with for almost a year was fixed. I was also given exercises to keep it right. It still bothers me, but I know how to sort it out myself now. None of the bullshit come back twice a week etc
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I have had several sprains myself as far as my back is concerned but i never felt i needed a back specialist. Recently my wife started feeling her back bugging her a bit and she started seeing this chiropractor. The woman wants to see her on a biweekly basis and my wife is convinced she is helping her. I personally think she is just milking money out of her and pretty much wants my wife to be her lifelong customer.
If my wife really has a serious back issue shouldnt be seeing a real doctor because from what i have seen nothing short of surgery truly helps and my wife claims to just have minor pain occasionally. Does anyone have any experience with these supposed "Doctors" and do they really help ??? I just feel like we are getting SCAMMED. Personally i think that money would be better spent on a massage therapist instead of a chiropractor.
just get a script for some strong pain meds and problem solved.
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Your GP is not going to be able to do anything for you wife; he'll literally be next to clueless in regards to this issue. Some chiros are great. The diagnosis your wife got is a relatively normal one-although once every two weeks sounds like about two weeks more often than what I've come to understand is best:a period of intense adjusting and then more like 1x per month.
An adjustment is a fast way of getting you out of pain, that's a fact...there's been plenty of times I couldn't walk or sit and an adjustment did the trick and I was fine. Although, the underlying factor is still usually muscular so what she should really be doing is seeing a physical therapist as well. Last, back surgery is still something to be relatively weary of and only done as a last option.
A good chiro should have a very good therapist on staff. Its amazing that the same things done in my office are done by physical therapist. Yet, United Health Care sees fit to only pay for therapy when combined with adjustment. When done without, its not medically necessary. Hows that for a scam?
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just get a script for some strong pain meds and problem solved.
You're american Im guessing?
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You're american Im guessing?
why you say that?
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Where's Moosejay (Lax) on the subject? Why's he not commenting? He's our resident chiro. ???
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Where's Moosejay (Lax) on the subject? Why's he not commenting? He's our resident chiro. ???
Whereas you are our Neurosurgeon... 8)
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Whereas you are our Neurosurgeon... 8)
If you mean by neurosurgeon you mean 'drinking.' ;D
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If you mean by neurosurgeon you mean 'drinking.' ;D
what = your take on chiropractors?
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www.activerelease.com
combination of massage, stretching and electricity. Milos recommended it to me and it solved a shoulder issue that had plagued me for months - in a single session.
you can find a doc near you at the link above. it saved milos just hours before he was up for rotator cuff surgery.
thanks for posting 240 :)
I'll check one out this week, I'm in need of it. Thanks!
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thanks for posting 240 :)
I'll check one out this week, I'm in need of it. Thanks!
no prob. i was SCARED by how much my shoulder hurt. I couldn't type with that arm, play guitar, or train at all.
I went in, they said it was a biceps tendon, causing some issue to the AC joint I think. It was pretty painful for 30 minutes, but I was back in the gym 2 days later and it has not acted up since.
I went to my dad's doc - he recommended prednisone and even GH to be honest. it was getting worse by the day. normally, I think chiropractors are often crooks, and I saw my wife's doc run up the bill years ago on the insurance company. I used to bash them a lot. Until i was hurting and the guy fixed me in 1 sitting. To this day, I'm 'that guy' who tells people with nagging injuries to check out ART.
Once you get the shoulder fixed - ADD ROTATOR CUFF MOVEMENTS. Just a few sets, 1-2 times a week. Milos told me details on what it does - creates more space in the shoulder area, etc. I don't remember the exact. But the pain hasn't come back. Thank God!
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thats great to hear,
I'm having some issues with my hip and knee.
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no prob. i was SCARED by how much my shoulder hurt. I couldn't type with that arm, play guitar, or train at all.
I went in, they said it was a biceps tendon, causing some issue to the AC joint I think. It was pretty painful for 30 minutes, but I was back in the gym 2 days later and it has not acted up since.
I went to my dad's doc - he recommended prednisone and even GH to be honest. it was getting worse by the day. normally, I think chiropractors are often crooks, and I saw my wife's doc run up the bill years ago on the insurance company. I used to bash them a lot. Until i was hurting and the guy fixed me in 1 sitting. To this day, I'm 'that guy' who tells people with nagging injuries to check out ART.
Once you get the shoulder fixed - ADD ROTATOR CUFF MOVEMENTS. Just a few sets, 1-2 times a week. Milos told me details on what it does - creates more space in the shoulder area, etc. I don't remember the exact. But the pain hasn't come back. Thank God!
Can't remember if I told you this already but a guy (ex trainer for the Eagles footy team) recommended a stretch to me which seems to help with this. Lie on your side with the lower arm extending in front of you, elbow bent, and press the palm toward the floor. I do these every shoulder day as well as rot cuff work.
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Can't remember if I told you this already but a guy (ex trainer for the Eagles footy team) recommended a stretch to me which seems to help with this. Lie on your side with the lower arm extending in front of you, elbow bent, and press the palm toward the floor. I do these every shoulder day as well as rot cuff work.
cool. i'll try that.
hows that crazy neighbor girl thing going? Sore shoulder is the least of your worries when that silly rabbit finally snaps.
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cool. i'll try that.
hows that crazy neighbor girl thing going? Sore shoulder is the least of your worries when that silly rabbit finally snaps.
She left me alone for a full week and the last knock was on Sat. She always has some sob story and needs 'someone to talk to' because you can't turn away someone in emotional distress, right? Dying grandma, misbehaving kid, stalker ex, daughter dramas with new stepmom, etc, always on the edge of tears over something. People who try to use social convention and the rules of politeness to try to manipulate others really give me the shits.
Anyway, I had worked late on Sat and was still in construction worker mode & clothes. Didn't let her in. Only talked to her briefly on the porch and told her that it sounds like she knows a lot of fucked up people and if I was in her shoes I'd get my life in order and tell everyone to just fuck off. Then I had to go because I needed to do my paperwork and good luck hope it all works out.
I'm not a nasty or callous guy and I resent her making me play the part but I'm playing it pretty convincingly, seeing as how never seeing her again would suit me right down to the ground.
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chiro's are scam aritsts..they do the same shpeel with everyone...take x-rays and point out that the lower discs in your back are compressed...Well every fucking human being that doenst walk like an ape anymore and is over the age of 20 has some compression in the lower spine, it is an evolutinary sacrifice for standing upright. It is basically normal and not something bad but looks bad in an x-ray. People believe it.
Then the treatments they give is basically the same as a massage....The rest is just the placebo effect. The entire industry rely's on the 30% success rate due to the placebo effect.