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I swear to god
If you guys cannot see what a retarded joke this so called "sport" has become the you can go fuck yourselves along with these ( literally ) " roided freaks "
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You have a point. In the old days, one could look at someone like Zane and be motivated to train to try and look like him. Now, you just watch it like you would a Freakshow. That's the only way to appreciate it, but hey... as a Freak..it's hard to top Branch.
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You have a point. In the old days, one could look at someone like Zane and be motivated to train to try and look like him. Now, you just watch it like you would a Freakshow. That's the only way to appreciate it, but hey... as a Freak..it's hard to top Branch.
I gave up watching that "sport" a long time ago
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fuck this
this use to be body building
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I swear to god
If you guys cannot see what a retarded joke this so called "sport" has become the you can go fuck yourselves along with these ( literally ) " roided freaks "
Oh please! No matter how roided the muscles get... no matter how small the thongs get... no matter how much of a freak show it is... no matter how gay it is (musclegallery, muscle escorts, Weider, Blechman, etc.) admit it: you're not going anywhere! ::)
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you're an idiot Sev. Back in those days, people looked at Zane and Arnold the way we look at Cutler and branch nowadays. They thought that they were taking it too far and too extreme. If guys like Zane and Arnold would be competing today with the same mentality they had back then, they would be taking just as much, if not more, drugs than the current guys are taking. Arnold started dbol at what, 13?
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have I gone insane or are people just plain blind ?
BTW ... whatever argument you wanna bring me Chick the bottom line is that currently ( last 15 years ) you all look crappier and crappier and are less and less gifted for this discipline
this coupled with the wrong gear and the wrong doses and whatever else the fuck you want cause you took bodybuilding and turned it into a peagent for homos with a taste in bulky on the verge of heartattack freaks
there is something very wrong with you all
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you're an idiot Sev. Back in those days, people looked at Zane and Arnold the way we look at Cutler and branch nowadays. They thought that they were taking it too far and too extreme. If guys like Zane and Arnold would be competing today with the same mentality they had back then, they would be taking just as much, if not more, drugs than the current guys are taking. Arnold started dbol at what, 13?
Well said, In that age, They were extreme.
When i saw the bbing mags at first time(11years old or something), i thought "God, what a monsters!".
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Maybe the squat rack was invented then?
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have I gone insane or are people just plain blind ?
BTW ... whatever argument you wanna bring me Chick the bottom line is that currently ( last 15 years ) you all look crappier and crappier and are less and less gifted for this discipline
this coupled with the wrong gear and the wrong doses and whatever else the fuck you want cause you took bodybuilding and turned it into a peagent for homos with a taste in bulky on the verge of heartattack freaks
there is something very wrong with you all
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Romania is 30yrs western europe and america
Zane is still dominant in in the gypsys mind
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That's what the judges places higher these days. Someone with Zane or Nubret's physique would not even get their pro card, and therefore bodybuilders strive for the "freak" look in order to get anywhere in the sport. The judges need to be able to distinguish between physiques to place a winner, and if they went back to the old standard there would be thousands and thousands of such physiques (since the old physiques are much more easily obtainable today) and it would be impossible to for judges to differentiate and award a certain few their pro card, choose between which 20 or so will qualify for the Olympia, etc. Therefore, naturally, each competitor strives to get bigger and bigger to differentiate and place higher. If someone with Serge's physique was given their pro card over a typical winnner these-days, the majority of fans would be in uproar. There's really nothing that can be done to reverse this.
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you're an idiot Sev. Back in those days, people looked at Zane and Arnold the way we look at Cutler and branch nowadays. They thought that they were taking it too far and too extreme. If guys like Zane and Arnold would be competing today with the same mentality they had back then, they would be taking just as much, if not more, drugs than the current guys are taking. Arnold started dbol at what, 13?
QFT!
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That's what the judges places higher these days. Someone with Zane or Nubret's physique would not even get their pro card, and therefore bodybuilders strive for the "freak" look in order to get anywhere in the sport. The judges need to be able to distinguish between physiques to place a winner, and if they went back to the old standard there would be thousands and thousands of such physiques (since the old physiques are much more easily obtainable today) and it would be impossible to for judges to differentiate and award a certain few their pro card, choose between which 20 or so will qualify for the Olympia, etc. Therefore, naturally, each competitor strives to get bigger and bigger to differentiate and place higher. If someone with Serge's physique was given their pro card over a typical winnner these-days, the majority of fans would be in uproar. There's really nothing that can be done to reverse this.
Well said Bob's there are plenty of guys walking around with good physiques and the standard has changed to accomodate the BB who can "outfreak" his colleagues, however in trending towards this freakier look the sport has planted the seeds for its own destruction, case in point; Olympia used to be on TV/PPV but now you can barely watch a decent webcast, BB magazine sales are at an all time low, and the negative attitudes and lack of support amongst fans, heck most people on this board look down on pros, whereas back in Arnold's day those guys were respected. I also think that the whole gay for pay thing has contributed to a lack of respect for BB's, what happened to balancing a job and BB career ???
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Someone with Zane or Nubret's physique would not even get their pro card
If someone with Serge's physique was given their pro card over a typical winnner these-days, the majority of fans would be in uproar.
are you fucking high ?
These guys would not get pro cards ? ?
Fans in uproar ? ? ? ? ? ?
WTF ? ? ? ?
( IS EVERYONE SMOKING CRACK AND I GOT PLACEBO ? ?)
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No legs in bodybuilding before the 80's
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are you fucking high ?
These guys would not get pro cards ? ?
Fans in uproar ? ? ? ? ? ?
WTF ? ? ? ?
( IS EVERYONE SMOKING CRACK AND I GOT PLACEBO ? ?)
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Yes, judges would place them lower (otherwise these physiques would be on the Olympia stage today). Also, fans would be in uproar - majority would say how did this sub-200 lb guy with no legs beat the 260 lb guy. Fans might prefer looking like these guys on a daily basis, but judges would place them lower.
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Well said Bob's there are plenty of guys walking around with good physiques and the standard has changed to accomodate the BB who can "outfreak" his colleagues, however in trending towards this freakier look the sport has planted the seeds for its own destruction, case in point; Olympia used to be on TV/PPV but now you can barely watch a decent webcast, BB magazine sales are at an all time low, and the negative attitudes and lack of support amongst fans, heck most people on this board look down on pros, whereas back in Arnold's day those guys were respected. I also think that the whole gay for pay thing has contributed to a lack of respect for BB's, what happened to balancing a job and BB career ???
QFT
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Well said Bob's there are plenty of guys walking around with good physiques and the standard has changed to accomodate the BB who can "outfreak" his colleagues, however in trending towards this freakier look the sport has planted the seeds for its own destruction, case in point; Olympia used to be on TV/PPV but now you can barely watch a decent webcast, BB magazine sales are at an all time low, and the negative attitudes and lack of support amongst fans, heck most people on this board look down on pros, whereas back in Arnold's day those guys were respected. I also think that the whole gay for pay thing has contributed to a lack of respect for BB's, what happened to balancing a job and BB career ???
Maybe they can start having male "fitness" or "figure" where the classical builds would place higher
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"FANS" like bigbobs or baygayfemale are idiots if they both agree that the top 3 bodybuilders of ALL TIME could not get pro cards and are past tense
BTW :
I noticed that the people who argue me are a part time gym lifter who worships the granddaddy of " rhino aesthetics " and a "guy" who would love to literally fuck Branch "JEHWIT'S WET DREAM " Warren
i DON'T SEE ANY SEASONED COMPETITORS, TOP AMATEURS OR PRO'S ARGUING WITH ME
THAT'S BECAUSE those who have a clue know that this is turning really ugly nowadays
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Uh, BBing isn't some activity that adheres to conventional norms. It's an 'extreme' one and attracts like adherents. That's not gonna change.
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and for the intelligent bodybuilding community on getbig
is not that back in the day legs were too small
is that today the upper thighs are grosly overdeveloped
if you cannot spot musclegroups that are not in PROPORTION with the rest of the body you should get your vision checked or try casting oppinions on other "sports"
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By the way : back in the day where there were no legs there was this guy who hasn't been paralleled yet
weird shit
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No legs in bodybuilding before the 80's
I said you are a retarded moron who just happens to be stupid too
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Sev is absolutely right, it's been bad enough that for a few years we've been told that the fridge has the best physique in the world, and now they tell us Branch Warren has the second best physique in the world. Branch fuckin Warren. It's just flat out a joke what bodybuilding has become when those two are considered the best in the world
It's like we're living in the bizzaro world.
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i agree, but dont forget people found guys like Zane or Ahnold bizarre the same way you think about Cutler...They were considered freaks of nature...
now you have idiots saying that you can get like Zane without drugs, and drugs and supplements are only needed to get like Cutler...so...
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Yep...this right here wouldnt get a pro card...no way no how... not this lump of crap. ::)
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"FANS" like bigbobs or baygayfemale are idiots if they both agree that the top 3 bodybuilders of ALL TIME could not get pro cards and are past tense
No need to get all personal.
Fact is there are guys with classical builds like you posted who compete at state and national levels today, but do not get their pro cards because they are not "freaky" enough. That's why I said these builds would not get their pro cards today.
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I said you are a retarded moron who just happens to be stupid too
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Platz was one of the few exceptions who had real wheels and you should know that.
Times have changed, deal with it.
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What most of you people are forgeting is that there is more to success on a BBing stage then just your physique. Your charisma, and stage presence count for a lot. Arnold today would be just as successfull as he was in the bygone eras, simply because of his charisma. Think about it...did he always win because he was the BEST on stage, or did he always win, because if you were a judge you just wanted to get behind someone like him.
Also...subjective criteria can be your friend as well as your enemy...since there are no truly "correct" definitions of what the ideal is when judging...this makes it so that if you are able to "sell your act" and can project yourself as the winner...then people will mold and rationalize the criteria to fit your physique.
This of course only goes so far...Vince Goodrum couldn't win a show regardless of how much confidence he could exude...but I think you get my point.
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Pushing the envelope isn't pretty - especially at something that has already "evolved" as much as bodybuilding...
...physiques like Arnold's, Zane's, Mike Mentzer's, etc. will live forever... don't worry so much.... quality has no expiration date...
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Yep...this right here wouldnt get a pro card...no way no how... not this lump of crap. ::)
Never said they look bad. He looks awesome, actually. And there are many guys with awesome builds like that who compete at state and national shows but lose out to the bigger guys and do not get their pro card.
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Never said they look bad. He looks awesome, actually. And there are many guys with awesome builds like that who compete at state and national shows but lose out to the bigger guys and do not get their pro card.
:D
there are guys at state and national shows who have builds like Arnold, Zane and Nubret ? ?
where the fuck are they ? ? ?
you are def on drugs lol
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:D
there are guys at state and national shows who have builds like Arnold, Zane and Nubret ? ?
where the fuck are they ? ? ?
you are def on drugs lol
Yes, with similar overall mass, similar small waist, similar detail, etc. Put them in b&w photoshoots and post their best few pics and they will look very similar to the photos posted in this thread. :)
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Yes, with similar overall mass, similar small waist, similar detail, etc. Put them in b&w photoshoots and post their best few pics and they will look very similar to the photos posted in this thread. :)
I'm speechless
it feels like I'm in a "Twilight Zone" episode and I can't wake up
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Both Arnold and Zane had a pretty wide waist for their structure
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Yes, with similar overall mass, similar small waist, similar detail, etc. Put them in b&w photoshoots and post their best few pics and they will look very similar to the photos posted in this thread. :)
Then feel free to back this claim up. The only national level competitor that I can think of would be Jorge Betancourt...but he doesnt compete very often. Danny Hester also comes to mind, but again...only competes sporadicaly.
That said... there isnt 1 pro in the last ten years worthy of carring Bob Paris's jock strap...let alone being "better." BBing has regressed...and this should be obvious to anyone with a shred of common sense.
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Both Arnold and Zane had a pretty wide waist for their structure
am I the only one reading these replies in disbelief ?
Zane had a "wide waist "
maybe you got popped in the eye with a money shot and now you have a twich or something cause we must be looking at different things
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I bet Tim Belknap wishes he was born 25 years later,his type of physique would be winning the olympia now.
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I bet Tim Belknap wishes he was born 25 years later,his type of physique would be winning the olympia now.
:D
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am I the only one reading these replies in disbelief ?
Zane had a "wide waist "
are you blinded by Nassoil's cum ?
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He knows how to hide it by twisting his body. His waist isn't wide by normal standard but for his rather narrow structure it could be smaller.
I don't think there is any question regarding Arnold's rather wide waist.
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Benny Podda would be winning the Arnold classic by todays judging standards.
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yes Jay is the worst mr o ever.
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again wavelength
gently remove the pearl necklace covering your eyelids
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to your credit he does have wider hips compared to a 8 yo malnourished girl from Somalia
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Then feel free to back this claim up. The only national level competitor that I can think of would be Jorge Betancourt...but he doesnt compete very often. Danny Hester also comes to mind, but again...only competes sporadicaly.
That said... there isnt 1 pro in the last ten years worthy of carring Bob Paris's jock strap...let alone being "better." BBing has regressed...and this should be obvious to anyone with a shred of common sense.
I don't follow amateur shows much, but there are tons, including some who post on getbig....basically any top amateur competitor who does not have an insulin gut could resemble these guys in their best few shots if doing a professional photo shoot with the right lighting conditions (like the classical guys are in the pictures posted in this thread)
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Benny Podda would be winning the Arnold classic by todays judging standards.
lmao
:D :D :D
he'd look like Serge Nubret in last weekend's top 2
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Wavelentght
here's another shot of Frank " The Fridge " Zane
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Just a difference in opinion, it's much less preeminent than with Arnold of course.
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Winner of next years olympia .....Ivan Putski.
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You have a point. In the old days, one could look at someone like Zane and be motivated to train to try and look like him. Now, you just watch it like you would a Freakshow. That's the only way to appreciate it, but hey... as a Freak..it's hard to top Branch.
x3. I could watch old tapes from the 70's and even the eighties. Astetics ruled, not freak shows. Today's bbdg is one giant circus freakshow.
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Just in case you didn`t notice the writing at the side of the Ivan Putski pic,it says heavyweight 19th place.This was in the nationals in 83,and the winner of the nationals was this physique.How times have changed and different physiques rewarded.
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Just a difference in opinion, it's much less preeminent than with Arnold of course.
You said Zane has a wide waist for his structure
you are either blind or stupid
Now you clearly feel like an idiot after I posted these shots of Zane's 27 inch waist and of his vacuum where you can clearly see his lumbar disks portruding through his stomach wall
So you are starting to yap about Arnold who looked like a ballerina compared to Jay " Arctic " Cutler or Branch " Sub Zero " Warren "
why are you on this site ? ?
You know , you are right
they both are comparable
both have guts
the only difference is Zane's is concave and Branch's or Fridge's is convex
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You said Zane has a wide waist for his structure
you are either blind or stupid
Now you clearly feel like an idiot after I posted these shots of Zane's 27 inch waist and of his vacuum where you can clearly see his lumbar disks portruding through his stomach wall
So you are starting to yap about Arnold who looked like a ballerina compared to Jay " Arctic " Cutler or Branch " Sub Zero " Warren "
why are you on this site ? ?
You know , you are right
they both are comparable
both have guts
the only difference is Zane's is concave and Branch's or Fridge's is convex
Branch at the same level of muscularity as Zane resp. Arnold had a better structure IMO, his waist looked tiny.
I agree that his proportions are worse now. I was just talking about structure and I didn't compare them to Jay or Branch in their current condition.
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This guy could have been Mr. Olympia or at least a top contender for the Olympia title back in the day, but today he is not able to get his pro card
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blah blahblah
you opened your mouf without thinking that'all
stick to getting ripped on this ::)
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This guy could have been Mr. Olympia or at least a top contender for the Olympia title back in the day, but today he is not able to get his pro card
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:D :D
oh brother ::)
you really have no clue about bodybuilding do you
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blah blahblah
you opened your mouf without thinking that'all
stick to getting ripped on this ::)
meltdown
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Dude Sev are you totally drunk or something? Would Frank and Arnold with their physiques of the past get a pro card today? No way, and that is because the judging is totally different now. There really are plenty of guys on the state and national level that could compete with the guys of yester years and place just as high as they did. You have to think there are alot more people in the world now and bodybuilding is much more popular than it was in the 60's and 70's. And quit posting black and white pics next to pics of current bodybuilders in the offseason it makes you look like a moron trying to prove a point that doesn't even make sense.
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Dude Sev are you totally drunk or something? Would Frank and Arnold with their physiques of the past get a pro card today? No way, and that is because the judging is totally different now. There really are plenty of guys on the state and national level that could compete with the guys of yester years and place just as high as they did. You have to think there are alot more people in the world now and bodybuilding is much more popular than it was in the 60's and 70's. And quit posting black and white pics next to pics of current bodybuilders in the offseason it makes you look like a moron trying to prove a point that doesn't even make sense.
you just said that the top 2 best bodybuilders of all time would not place today
you my friend are the real moron
and you don't even realize it
btw : bodybuilding is less popular now then at it's peak : the 80's
moron
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you just said that the top 2 best bodybuilders of all time would not place today
you my friend are the real moron
and you don't even realize it
btw : bodybuilding is less popular now then at it's peak : the 80's
moron
Let me ask you this Sev, based on what scale that you can come up with are Frank and Arnold are the best two bodybuilders of all time?? I have nothing against the two of them and I do think bodybuilding should go back to what it once was and bodybuilding is more popular now than in the 60's and 70's as I stated. By the late 80's Frank and Arnold were done, because the time you talking about was in the late 80's to early 90's.Sev do you even know the point your trying to make? BTW: Sev, by todays judging standards Arnold and Frank would not place in the Olympia. Who are you trying to fool by even saying that?
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The only true thing you said "realist" is that the judging has changed,and thats the point that sevastase is making.If bloated guts were not rewarded like they are today,then the top guys would have to re-think their drug use to get the look that won in the past.And please don`t say bodybuilding is more popular today,in the 80s and 90s it was shown on tv all the time here in the UK,now we get nothing,and its been that way for a few years.But we do get big time sports like womens pool. ::)
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These two pics are more realistic comparisons. Yes I would love to see bodybuilding go back to the golden years, but Arnold and Frank wouldn't place in the Mr. O compared to today's standards of Ronnie, Jay and ect...
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Black and White photography makes bodies look F-in awesome. I'm with both sides on this one. Those guys were the freaks back in the day. When Sergio hit the scene, I'm sure all the Bill Pearl, Steve Reeves, and even Larry Scott fans flipped their friggin lid. Having said that, I find nothing inspiring or attractive about todays bbers. Back then man, those bodies were...art.
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The only true thing you said "realist" is that the judging has changed,and thats the point that sevastase is making.If bloated guts were not rewarded like they are today,then the top guys would have to re-think their drug use to get the look that won in the past.And please don`t say bodybuilding is more popular today,in the 80s and 90s it was shown on tv all the time here in the UK,now we get nothing,and its been that way for a few years.But we do get big time sports like womens pool. ::)
Did you even read my post? When I clearly stated that bodybuilding was at its peak in the late 80's and 90's. Also, I stated that bodybuilding is more popular now than in the 60's and 70's, which were Arnold and Frank's golden years.
That being said. I wish bodybuilding would take a turn for the better not the circus that it is now. I grew up admiring Arnold, Labrada, Shawn, Mike ect. Nowadays, it seems to be all about just pure muscle and condition and nothing else i.e. Branch winning 2nd.
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you're an idiot Sev. Back in those days, people looked at Zane and Arnold the way we look at Cutler and branch nowadays. They thought that they were taking it too far and too extreme. If guys like Zane and Arnold would be competing today with the same mentality they had back then, they would be taking just as much, if not more, drugs than the current guys are taking. Arnold started dbol at what, 13?
I don't know about when Arnold supposedly starting using Dbol, but you're dead on the money about how people view bodybuilders.
In fact, about two years ago, I bought an issue of IronMan with a picture of Arnold on the cover (a color pic of him in his prime). The cashier gave her unsolicited opinion, to the tune of "That's nasty!!.
Heck, I remember other students in school saying that about guys like Labrada and Ray from the late 80s (and neither one of them competed over 200 lbs. then).
As far as the fans and former competitors go, it's always a generational thing. The guys from the 50s thought the dudes from the 60s were "roid freaks" or "all drugs".
The guys from the 60s said much the same about the 70s bodybuilders, who in turn said as much about the fellows from the 80s.
And, the guys from the 80s talked the same mess about bodybuilders of the 90s. And (Surprise, SURPRISE), the folks from the 90s swear that they're the best; while, the new millenium competitors are "all drugs".
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These two pics are more realistic comparisons. Yes I would love to see bodybuilding go back to the golden years, but Arnold and Frank wouldn't place in the Mr. O compared to today's standards of Ronnie, Jay and ect...
You didn't understand what this thread is all about. ;)
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x3. I could watch old tapes from the 70's and even the eighties. Astetics ruled, not freak shows. Today's bbdg is one giant circus freakshow.
To a degree, bodybuilding has ALWAYS been a "freak shown". Heck, people though Zane was too massive, back in the day.
Show a pic of Zane, in his prime, to the average Joe or Jane, and at least 70% of the response you'll get is "That's gross!!", "That's too much!!" or "Steroids!!"
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ALL relative to the times and judging of the era lee priest 5'2 or 5'4 freak,maakaway same height considered more classic lines,but considering zane is 5'9 as reported and cutler same height and competing almost 60/70 lbs heavier is just insane.sev has a good point there.
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ALL relative to the times and judging of the era lee priest 5'2 or 5'4 freak,maakaway same height considered more classic lines,but considering zane is 5'9 as reported and cutler same height and competing almost 60/70 lbs heavier is just insane.sev has a good point there.
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Oh please! No matter how roided the muscles get... no matter how small the thongs get... no matter how much of a freak show it is... no matter how gay it is (musclegallery, muscle escorts, Weider, Blechman, etc.) admit it: you're not going anywhere! ::)
And next you're going to tell us that deep down you know we are all semi gay ::)
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i rather look like the pictures from the past, today is freaks and it's impressive but who wants to look like that, there is no envy.
the best compliment a bodybuilder can get is when others say they want to look just like them.
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that most muscular comparison between arnold and jay just shows how far the sport hasnt come, arnold is harder, more striated in the chest and better defined with far better muscle tie ins, mass with flow.
watching predator one night my mrs said arnold was too much, muscles looked disgusting and thats after slimming down alot.
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are you fucking high ?
These guys would not get pro cards ? ?
Fans in uproar ? ? ? ? ? ?
WTF ? ? ? ?
( IS EVERYONE SMOKING CRACK AND I GOT PLACEBO ? ?)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/gallery/musclegallery1/foto9.jpg)(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/guy.it/mro/zane/zf51.jpg)
Those physiques would not get pro cards today. :-[
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realistic comparison, arnold at his lightest and probably worst olympia showing in terms of proportion..
These two pics are more realistic comparisons. Yes I would love to see bodybuilding go back to the golden years, but Arnold and Frank wouldn't place in the Mr. O compared to today's standards of Ronnie, Jay and ect...
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Most people would prefer the look of the past because then not training legs would be ok.....since most don't do it anyway. And spare me the Platz pics......he was one guy.....everybody else had bird legs compared to today.
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Proof that body building has become a 'joke,' literally:
Fast forward to 7:30. I laughed so hard when Scrappy's stomach popped out. It was clearly a comment by who ever did the research that they'd come across the gut discussions.
I've never been a Jay Cutler fan. In fact I was expecting him to redefine epic fail. In the end I couldn't believe who was considered competition. He was not the fridge of the past with the hugely distended stomach. He is just huge. I thought it was a move in right direction for the judges. Branch on the other hand...
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Proof that body building has become a 'joke,' literally:
Fast forward to 7:30. I laughed so hard when Scrappy's stomach popped out. It was clearly a comment by who ever did the research that they'd come across the gut discussions.
I've never been a Jay Cutler fan. In fact I was expecting him to redefine epic fail. In the end I couldn't believe who was considered competition. He was not the fridge of the past with the hugely distended stomach. He is just huge. I thought it was a move in right direction for the judges. Branch on the other hand...
HA HA HA so true! I remember seeing that scene in the theatre (don't ask) and thinking 'roid guts have gone mainstream'! ha ha ha ;D
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frank Zane if he were to compete today
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/3125182581_8d747de593_m.jpg)
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Is this shopped? Were Arnie's legs really that weak in 1980? They are terrible.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300037.0;attach=341695;image)
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frank Zane if he were to compete today
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/3125182581_8d747de593_m.jpg)
You are a very angry man lately Sev you need some more drunk Romanian bitches to fuck
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Most people would prefer the look of the past because then not training legs would be ok.....since most don't do it anyway. And spare me the Platz pics......he was one guy.....everybody else had bird legs compared to today.
Well I guess you are some armless guy who is build to squat. Do some curls chump. :P
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Most people would prefer the look of the past because then not training legs would be ok.....since most don't do it anyway. And spare me the Platz pics......he was one guy.....everybody else had bird legs compared to today.
Are you saying that if Frank Zane stepped onstage today, the judges would say, "Swimmers, on your mark..." instead of "front lat spread", "side triceps" etc?
Seriously though, I agree to a certain extent and Jay's physique isn't the prettiest onstage, but it has so much muscle put together in not too shabby a way. Jay's look isn't an abomination like some of the ones we've seen (Greg Kovacs).
And Sevastase, different people have different ideas of what the ideal physique is and what it isn't. You obviously like the more slender, Apollonian physiques while there are plenty of other who like Herculean physiques, like Dorian Yates' (myself included). No one is right or wrong.
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Lee Haney best O ever
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Well I guess you are some armless guy who is build to squat. Do some curls chump. :P
Actually my arms are much better than my legs.... ;D
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the sport reached its pinnacle to date with ronnie 99.
everyone before or since has not been as good. 8)
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the sport reached its pinnacle to date with ronnie 99.
everyone before or since has not been as good. 8)
Chris Cormier had an awesome build. Very underrated