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Title: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 01:11:51 PM
Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
ABC News ^ | 11/16/09 | JOSEPH RHEE, MARY-ROSE ABRAHAM, ANNA SCHECTER, and BRIAN ROSS

Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 4:08:12 PM by MissesBush

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Major Nidal Malik Hasan's military superiors repeatedly ignored or rebuffed his efforts to open criminal prosecutions of soldiers he claimed had confessed to "war crimes" during psychiatric counseling, according to investigative reports circulated among federal law enforcement officials.  

On Nov. 4, the day after his last attempt to raise the issue, he took extra target practice at Stan's shooting range in nearby Florence, Texas and then closed a safe deposit box he had at a Bank of America branch in Killeen, according to the reports. A bank employee told investigators Hasan appeared nervous and said, "You'll never see me again."

A corporate spokesperson contacted by ABC News had no comment.

Investigators believe Hasan's frustration over the failure of the Army to pursue what he regarded as criminal acts by U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan may have helped to trigger the shootings.

"The Army may not want to admit it, and you may not hear much about it, but it was very big for him," said one of the federal investigators on the task force collecting evidence of the crime.

His last effort to get the attention of military investigators came on Nov. 2, three days before his alleged shooting spree, according to the reports.

Colonel Anthony Febbo at Fort Hood reportedly told investigators he was twice contacted by Hasan, on Nov. 2 and a week earlier in October, about the question of whether he could legally provide information on "war crimes" he had learned in the course of psychiatric counseling he provided soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Here we go, blame America for this.   
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Kazan on November 16, 2009, 01:22:30 PM
Yes this makes perfect sense, he was upset about alleged war crimes, so the logical response is to walk into a building and shoot 50 people ::)
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: SAMSON123 on November 16, 2009, 04:07:57 PM
3 you're getting carried away with this and seem unable to see the LIE that is working fiercely to DEMONIZE this guy in order to provoke FEARS in the masses of a potential terrorist attack again. When the next attack hits america (and there will be another attack) it will be another DOMESTIC TERRORISM ACT just like 911 orchestrated by YOUR government. These events are just preparing the masses of america to once again believe that it is all the ARABS FAULT.
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Kazan on November 16, 2009, 04:29:52 PM
3 you're getting carried away with this and seem unable to see the LIE that is working fiercely to DEMONIZE this guy in order to provoke FEARS in the masses of a potential terrorist attack again. When the next attack hits america (and there will be another attack) it will be another DOMESTIC TERRORISM ACT just like 911 orchestrated by YOUR government. These events are just preparing the masses of america to once again believe that it is all the ARABS FAULT.

Yes of course the arabs would never hurt a fly ::) I suppose Hassan is some sort of "manchurian candidate" mind control experiment gone wrong ( or right if your a CT'er)
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Fury on November 16, 2009, 05:56:13 PM
Yes of course the arabs would never hurt a fly ::) I suppose Hassan is some sort of "manchurian candidate" mind control experiment gone wrong ( or right if your a CT'er)

Samson is a Muslim with documented extremist sympathies so of course he thinks they can do no wrong.  ::)
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
3 you're getting carried away with this and seem unable to see the LIE that is working fiercely to DEMONIZE this guy in order to provoke FEARS in the masses of a potential terrorist attack again. When the next attack hits america (and there will be another attack) it will be another DOMESTIC TERRORISM ACT just like 911 orchestrated by YOUR government. These events are just preparing the masses of america to once again believe that it is all the ARABS FAULT.

I reported the story as posted.  Look, if there is docmented history of this guy trying to do this, then its there.  We will have to see.  If many witnesses come out and say he tried to do this, then the evidence will mount. 

I do think its an interesting twist in this story to say the least. 
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Kazan on November 16, 2009, 08:01:16 PM
I reported the story as posted.  Look, if there is docmented history of this guy trying to do this, then its there.  We will have to see.  If many witnesses come out and say he tried to do this, then the evidence will mount. 

I do think its an interesting twist in this story to say the least. 

Well the real question would be what does he consider a war crime, he's a fanatic so It could be as simple as infindels setting foot in a Muslim country.
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 08:06:30 PM
Well the real question would be what does he consider a war crime, he's a fanatic so It could be as simple as infindels setting foot in a Muslim country.

Shrinks are mostly crazy themselves to begin with.  Couple that with being single, an islamic fanatic, etc, and its very easy to see someone go wild like this/

I cant imagine these soldieres getting treated by this guy.  However, if he was an islamist and really believed the govt was doing nothing about war crimes etc, it becomes pretty easy to see how someone could snap under the circumstances as listed above. 
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Hedgehog on November 16, 2009, 08:07:33 PM
Well the real question would be what does he consider a war crime, he's a fanatic so It could be as simple as infindels setting foot in a Muslim country.

He could very well have been right about his observations.

but his extremist religious beliefs certainly didn't help him make a good judgement call on how to deal with the situation.
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 16, 2009, 08:09:19 PM
He could very well have been right about his observations.

but his extremist religious beliefs certainly didn't help him make a good judgement call on how to deal with the situation.

One only can imagine the things the soldiers told this guy, although it sounds more like they needed to speak with a priest more than a shrink if the felt the need for confession. 
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Fury on November 16, 2009, 10:34:41 PM
What kind of confession? A confession to this guy was probably a soldier talking about killing an insurgent. Any Muslim killed (regardless of whether they're a terrorist/insurgent or not) constitutes a war crime to most fanatical nutjobs.

This guy is a fanatical terrorist and nothing more. No need to try to justify it by acting like soldiers seeking help from him caused him to shoot up a base and murder 13 innocent people.
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 17, 2009, 04:43:31 AM
What kind of confession? A confession to this guy was probably a soldier talking about killing an insurgent. Any Muslim killed (regardless of whether they're a terrorist/insurgent or not) constitutes a war crime to most fanatical nutjobs.

This guy is a fanatical terrorist and nothing more. No need to try to justify it by acting like soldiers seeking help from him caused him to shoot up a base and murder 13 innocent people.

I meant in terms of what Hassan percevied them to be saying and telling them.   
Title: Re: Officials: Major Hasan Sought 'War Crimes' Prosecution of U.S. Soldiers
Post by: Kazan on November 17, 2009, 07:28:17 AM
This is nothing more than leftwing it's not your fault bullshit. Ever notice when some fucker decides it will be a good idea to go on a murderous rampage there is always some dipshit looking for a way to quantify the action.