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December 13, 2009
Palin on the Rise; Obama is Old News
By Jack Kelly
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I'm sure a 6-year-old with a crayon could do something not unlike that," snarked White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs Tuesday.
The object of Mr. Gibbs' scorn was Gallup's tracking poll for the day before, which showed only 47 percent of respondents approve of the job President Barack Obama is doing, with 46 percent disapproving.
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Perhaps Mr. Gibbs' skin was thin because this was the lowest ranking for a president at this point in his presidency since Gallup began conducting presidential approval polls in 1938.
Meanwhile, a CNN/Opinion Research Poll also released Monday indicated 46 percent of respondents have a favorable impression of Sarah Palin, while 46 percent have an unfavorable one.
The polls were not quite the same. Gallup asked people what they thought of the job Mr. Obama was doing, not whether or not they liked him.
Even with that caveat, though, the convergence between Mr. Obama and Ms. Palin is remarkable. There is no statistical difference between the one and the other.
This represents a substantial gain in public esteem for Ms. Palin since she resigned as governor of Alaska in July, and a substantial decline for Mr. Obama over the same period.
Sarah Palin's been on a roll since the publication of her autobiography last month. "Going Rogue" is already the second-biggest seller among nonfiction books in history (only Bill Clinton's 2004 autobiography, "My Life," sold more copies in the first month), and could be No. 1 before the end of her book tour, since her sales seem to be holding up better than his did.
The book tour itself is a cultural phenomenon. At each stop hundreds, often thousands, of people have waited hours, sometimes days, to meet her.
Could Barack Obama -- who now seems so last year -- inspire that kind of devotion today?
The turnabout in fortunes is all the more remarkable because no political figure in recent history has been subject to such vilification from our news media as Sarah Palin. No malicious rumor was too preposterous to report. No accomplishment was important enough to mention.
Meanwhile, no presidential candidate or president has received more favorable press coverage than Barack Obama.
"President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George W. Bush during their first months in the White House," concluded a Pew Research study last May. Forty-two percent of stories in major newspapers and television news programs about Mr. Obama were favorable, compared to 22 percent for Mr. Bush and 27 percent for Mr. Clinton.
"The press just acted like this guy walked on water," Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz said during the campaign.
That's changing, in both directions.
Sarah Palin interrupted her book tour to speak at the Gridiron Club, the biggest social event of the year for Washington journalists.
"The very fact she was willing to take the chance of appearing in a room full of her most disdainful critics is testimony to her courage," wrote Dan Thomasson of Scripps Howard. "She came away with at least a consensus of grudging admiration."
"Her appearance produced the extraordinary scene of inside-the-Beltway cynics and their significant others asking for autographs," Mr. Thomasson noted.
"Palin won the evening," conceded columnist Clarence Page.
"As much as her politics are not mine, after chatting with her and her husband, good-natured 'First Dude' Todd Palin, I came away with a new fondness and respect for both of them," Mr. Page wrote.
"Going Rogue" received savage reviews from most liberals, like that from Ana Marie Cox in The Washington Post, who acknowledged she hadn't actually read the book.
Those who did have a different opinion. Stanley Fish, writing for The New York Times, described it as "compelling and very well done."
The reaction of liberals to Sarah Palin -- which is like that of vampires to garlic -- indicate she is the Republican they fear most. With good reason, Mr. Fish thinks.
"Perseverance, the ability to absorb defeat without falling into defeatism, is the key to Palin's character," he wrote. "Her political opponents, especially those who dismissed Ronald Reagan before he was elected, should take note."
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Question: If Palin were ever president, how many libs would flee the nation?
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In November Obama had the worst ratings of all Presidents ever.
Most of you here last year thought he was God well look at him now.
How can you run a country when you never even ran a Kool-Aid Stand
He can run his mouth but i wasen't dumb enough to buy his bullshit
like so many others, and that Nancy Polocy or how ever you spell her name
is the biggest WACO of them all. The Left will bring this country down and the Right will Fight for our rights as free citizens the way this country was built.
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In November Obama had the worst ratings of all Presidents ever.
Most of you here last year thought he was God well look at him now.
How can you run a country when you never even ran a Kool-Aid Stand
He can run his mouth but i wasen't dumb enough to buy his bullshit
like so many others, and that Nancy Polocy or how ever you spell her name
is the biggest WACO of them all. The Left will bring this country down and the Right will Fight for our rights as free citizens the way this country was built.
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Hey 3333386 are some here just death, dumb and blind who are still backing this President ? Like you said the problems started way before bush and Obama is making it worse. And you left winger really think health care is going to be free ?
Please nothing is free my friend you will pay in a way that you won't even know what your paying for
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Hey 3333386 are some here just death, dumb and blind who are still backing this President ? Like you said the problems started way before bush and Obama is making it worse. And you left winger really think health care is going to be free ?
Please nothing is free my friend you will pay in a way that you won't even know what your paying for
Actually that is a good point regarding the health care bill. The libs have been usiung slick language on this saying it wont add to the deficit, is deficit neutral, etc. To the average idiot, like many on this board, that sounds good, but it simply not the entuire story.
The reality is that deficit neutral does not mean free or without cost. This entire scam is financed by massive cuts in medicare and massive tax hikes.
Its typical lies coming from the govt to fool people who usually dont know how to parse language.
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33, I thought you wanted to focus on issues more important than Alaskan blogger Saran palin? It is fun to think about where we'd be today, given the fact many people believe Obama and mccain would have done the same things thus far.
By now, Palin would have added an entirely new department to the US Govt.
"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out." --Sarah Palin, referring to a department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009
Palin may have just up and quit by now.
"It may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: 'Sit down and shut up,' but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out." --Sarah Palin, announcing her resignation as governor, July 3, 2009
By now, she would have printed her own $
"Who calls a shot like that? Who makes a decision like that? It's a disturbing trend." –Sarah Palin, pushing a conspiracy theory that "In God We Trust" had been moved to the edge of coins because of the Obama administration (the change was made by the Bush administration in 2007 and was later reversed by Congress, before Obama took office),
By now she might even have been a movie star, or talked into trading the state of Hawaii for a ham sandwich by agreeing to something on the phone she couldn't quite understand.
"John McCain and I, we love you and thank you for spending a few minutes to talk to me." --Sarah Palin, talking with Canadian radio prankster posing as French Presideny Nicolas Sarkozy, Nov. 1, 2008 (Read more about the prank call, watch the video and see the transcript)
"Ohh, good, thank you, yes." --Sarah Palin, after the Canadian prank caller complimented her on the documentary about her life, Hustler's "Nailin Paylin," Nov. 1, 2008
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Thune was really good on CNN this morning.
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"Thune was really good on CNN this morning. "
I haven't watched the news much (I'm all about nfl on sundays) but it is very nice to see him popping up more and more lately.
True conservatives have to pick a leader. it's not mitt or rudy for sure - those guys had lib policies as leaders, and can talk about how much they love reagan all they want - their track records were anti-gun and pro-univ healthcare. They're libs lol...
Huck has the parolee issue, along with general creepiness and weird UN and IRS issues.
Palin is fun to look at, but admits abortion was considered. Her personal life is one that reeks of outright absentee lib parenting, let's be honest. She wasn't at church with her kids while they had live-in babydaddys. And she backed the Lib-ass bank bailout - while more repubs DID NOT in 2008. So I think while many conservatives like some of her positions, she's not the 100% favorite either.
Thune gets that 100% rating from the conservatives, is good looking, has experience in a lot of areas (including economics and an MBA!!!!), and could knock obama on his ass in a debate. I'm very excited about this guy in 2012. if he gets the right VP for foreign policy, and maybe some 3rd party help, he could knock out Obama in the election.
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only 7 + more years of "old news" to go.
and probably another 10,000 threads by 3333 telling us it's over any moment now
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only 7 + more years of "old news" to go.
and probably another 10,000 threads by 3333 telling us it's over any moment now
Ha ha. You guys just cant resist.,
I'm all in for Thune 2012 so far.
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Ha ha. You guys just cant resist.,
I'm all in for Thune 2012 so far.
can't resist what?
you're the one who posted yet another thread on Palin
would you rather we ignore your threads.
ok - I'll second that
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only 3 + more years of "old news" to go.
and probably another 10,000 threads by Blacken & 240 telling us Palin sucks, Palin's a moron, Palin's an idiot, Palin's stupid...
Fixed.
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Fixed.
nice projection
sensitive much?
did I say any of those things in response to 333 in this thread?
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Fixed.
No one can deny she has greatly rehabbed her image to most people.
Straw will hate her even if she became pro-choice and pro-gay marriage.
That is not her audience.
But like I said above, I like Thune so far from what I can tell.
As far as Palin, she is very good at the libs' panties all up in a bunch.
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No one can deny she has greatly rehabbed her image to most people.
you should get your head out of your ass, its still the same nutjobs that think shes great
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No one can deny she has greatly rehabbed her image to most people.
you should get your head out of your ass, its still the same nutjobs that think shes great
She is tied with Obama now.
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tied for what, are they playing ping pong
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No one can deny she has greatly rehabbed her image to most people.
Straw will hate her even if she became pro-choice and pro-gay marriage.
That is not her audience.
But like I said above, I like Thune so far from what I can tell.
As far as Palin, she is very good at the libs' panties all up in a bunch.
how do you figure she rehabbed her image much less greatly rehabbed it?
do you think that O'Reily interview was part of teh great rehab?
I don't recall making any comments about Palin and abortion or gay marriage
Most of my comments are that she is a liar and a quiter
why not comment on that instead of just making shit up?
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"No one can deny she has greatly rehabbed her image to most people. "
Polling data from fox/moffit showed 60% of 2008 voters thought she was unqualified to even be vice president.
have you seen any data to the contrary, since then?
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how do you figure she rehabbed her image much less greatly rehabbed it?
do you think that O'Reily interview was part of teh great rehab?
I don't recall making any comments about Palin and abortion or gay marriage
Most of my comments are that she is a liar and a quiter
why not comment on that instead of just making shit up?
Straw - is there anything she could do possibly to make you change your mind on her?
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nice projection
sensitive much?
did I say any of those things in response to 333 in this thread?
Look up Straw Man, the point went over your head. I didn't say you said any of those things, I was just using your post to make a point. Need a hug?
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Straw - is there anything she could do possibly to make you change your mind on her?
I'm not Straw, but I argue with him, so I feel I'm qualified to respond.
IMO, I think she needs to take on a really tough task and see it through. I understand that she had reasons for quitting...all quitters do. But, she really needs to show that she has the metal to hang in there when the going gets tough.
If she were elected to the Presidency or Vice Presidency what would happen? Oh...things are tough, they're doing this, they're doing that,...well, I guess I'll just walk away. Sorry 33, that's just not leadership.
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I'm not Straw, but I argue with him, so I feel I'm qualified to respond.
IMO, I think she needs to take on a really tough task and see it through. I understand that she had reasons for quitting...all quitters do. But, she really needs to show that she has the metal to hang in there when the going gets tough.
If she were elected to the Presidency or Vice Presidency what would happen? Oh...things are tough, they're doing this, they're doing that,...well, I guess I'll just walk away. Sorry 33, that's just not leadership.
Good point.
Personally, I want to see a person in there with an ounce of common sense on most issues. What I see now is just pure insanity.
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Look up Straw Man, the point went over your head. I didn't say you said any of those things, I was just using your post to make a point. Need a hug?
oh ok - so your point was that other people will post threads showing that Palin is a moron/idiot/stupid
why the redudancy?
isn't being a moron enough
I have a bigger issue with her being a patholigical liar than a moron
I don't think she can help being a moron so it's not fair to keep bringing that up
do you feel better now?
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Straw - is there anything she could do possibly to make you change your mind on her?
sure - there's always that possibility
but let's face it - the cement has dried.
Palin isn't going to be making any profound changes so the only way that I can imagine I might start liking her is if I were in a car accident and suffered massive head trauma. From what I've seen of her supporters I would have to become much less intelligent in order for her to start making sense to me.
Here words are like a dog whistle for morons.
Those among us with normal brain function just don't get it
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if you have an issue of her being a supposed liar then you must have many issues with obamas non stop lies
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sure - there's always that possibility
but let's face it - the cement has dried.
Palin isn't going to be making any profound changes so the only way that I can imagine I might start liking her is if I were in a car accident and suffered massive head trauma. From what I've seen of her supporters I would have to become much less intelligent in order for her to start making sense to me.
Here words are like a dog whistle for morons.
Those among us with normal brain function just don't get it
You really are a vile person. You wish her in a car accident?
WTF is wrong with you? Did your boyfriend not perform well enough last night?
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if you have an issue of her being a supposed liar then you must have many issues with obamas non stop lies
I do
go ahead and name a few and we very well might be in agreement
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lol straw said ( normal brain function) i think he should better describe what he uses is socialist hypnosis
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I do
go ahead and name a few and we very well might be in agreement
I read your post wrong. Disgregard the first pat of my last post. Not the second part though.
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You really are a vile person. You wish her in a car accident?
WTF is wrong with you? Did your boyfriend not perform well enough last night?
go back an read it again dipshit
now I'm beginning to understand why you like Palin so much
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I read your post wrong. Disgregard the first pat of my last post. Not the second part though.
lol - so you read my post "wrong" but you're still going to stick with being offended anyway
fucking hilarious
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well straw, there is a few ; zero earmarks that he promised in any of his bills , the stim had just a lil over 9000
the illegal firing of inspector general walpin, obamas admin broke a law the he himself helped pass
the u. e
transpearency, they paid a speed reader to read some of the proposed rep bills
mr. wrights church, he said he went for 20 years but just didnt listen any of the time
no taxe hikes on anyone making less that 250k
would you like more?
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well straw, there is a few ; zero earmarks that he promised in any of his bills , the stim had just a lil over 9000
the illegal firing of inspector general walpin, obamas admin broke a law the he himself helped pass
the u. e
transpearency, they paid a speed reader to read some of the proposed rep bills
mr. wrights church, he said he went for 20 years but just didnt listen any of the time
no taxe hikes on anyone making less that 250k
would you like more?
yep - I agree with you on some of those - just like I said I probably would
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333386 your lying again when you say their tie The problem is, your comparing apples to oranges. polls show Palin's favorability rating at around 46 percentmere points away from Obama's job-approval rating of 49 percent. , favorability and job approval aren't the same thing.
When you compare favorability ratings apples to apples Obama still leads Palin by a distance. The latest Gallup poll puts Obama's favorability 16 points ahead of Palin's, ABC puts his lead at 18 points, and CNN says it's 18 points higher. Only Fox has the gap in single digits, with a seven-point spread. It's impossible to compare their job-approval numbers because, well, Palin doesn't have a job.
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333386 your lying again when you say their tie The problem is, your comparing apples to oranges. polls show Palin's favorability rating at around 46 percentmere points away from Obama's job-approval rating of 49 percent. , favorability and job approval aren't the same thing.
When you compare favorability ratings apples to apples Obama still leads Palin by a distance. The latest Gallup poll puts Obama's favorability 16 points ahead of Palin's, ABC puts his lead at 18 points, and CNN says it's 18 points higher. Only Fox has the gap in single digits, with a seven-point spread. It's impossible to compare their job-approval numbers because, well, Palin doesn't have a job.
That's because CNN, CNBC and ABC are run by the left so of course there going to lie
and make obama look good to the American people, two of the biggest idots are on CNBC Keith Olberman and that Dike Meddows who follows him.
FOX NEWS has the #1 rating of news channels for 8 yrs. Those other channels have a lot
of you left wingers brain washed, just look around is anything getting better ? NO
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Great add as usual, mons.
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Fixed.
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find one for obama
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find one for obama
We cand find anything for him since his transcripts are all hidden.
I could care less though, he is failing now and that is all that matters.
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find one for obama
Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review.
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All that means is that he can promptly show up on time to school. I went to school with some of the most stupid people I have ever met, who had very good grades cause they were either A; rich, B; had smart girl friends that did shit for them, or cheated some other way. Funny how you wont show us that about the commie in chief, you just tell us he had a degree from Harvard. But judging by the situtation in todays America it doesnt look like an ivy league ed is all that great.
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any country that would vote for palin as their next president is in serious trouble - I don't think she has a hope in hell anyway
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any country that would vote for palin as their next president is in serious trouble - I don't think she has a hope in hell anyway
I felt the same way about anyone voting for a community oranigaing marxist who never held a real job in his life.
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I felt the same way about anyone voting for a community oranigaing marxist who never held a real job in his life.
It's true - he couldn't see russia from his kitchen window. You can argue his politics but as far as credentials go obama > palin.
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It's true - he couldn't see russia from his kitchen window. You can argue his politics but as far as credentials go obama > palin.
She never said that and what she did say was factually accurate.
57 States anyone?
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man i guess when America is run completely into the ground, the libs will still have obamas credentials to celebrate huh?
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his credentials havent helped my small business, or anyones small business out in one way so who gives a shit about his credentials?
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just stating a fact - palin would just be a puppet if she ever did make it
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atleast she loves America and doesnt want to fundementaly transform it, like obama does, too bad he kept secret while he was running what he wanted to transform it into. I am not saying she is president material, just to clear it up, but dam look at what this fucking retard is doing and there are no signs of him slowing down either with all this crap
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what exactly has he done to you?
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well my business had to pay more taxes after his stimulous bill that just had to be passed cause of the supposed immanent crisis, and i had to cut my full time guys to part time due to some bull shit workers comp mandate which means i had to work more hours on top of the 60 i already do, and that takes away from my family time, he has lied to all of us, and creates double standards. He is supposed to be a leader and a role model and children do take notice of his lies, my son knows about the illegal firing of inspector general walpin and has asked me why its ok for him to break rules. you explain that to a 8 year old
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point taken - he's a politician - I didn't agree with the stimulus, I don't think that was right to give the money to all the people that lost the money in the first place. But I think Bush had a similar bill in the pipeline - I don't think this is a strictly left vs right thing.
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just stating a fact - palin would just be a puppet if she ever did make it
Sort of like Obama is for Wall Street?
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Sort of like Obama is for Wall Street?
true enough - even as a person who leans left - outside of foreign policy he's a disappointment
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i dont really think its left vs. right either i am friends with many democrates who say that obama doesnt represent them in any way . Him and his admin resemble socialism rather than rep or dem i think . What else can you call the massive and completly blind attempt they are making to control eveything? and to desperatly change Americas appearence in the eyes of the rest of the world. He needs to get his socialist agenda in line with that of the rest of the world.
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i dont really think its left vs. right either i am friends with many democrates who say that obama doesnt represent them in any way . Him and his admin resemble socialism rather than rep or dem i think . What else can you call the massive and completly blind attempt they are making to control eveything? and to desperatly change Americas appearence in the eyes of the rest of the world. He needs to get his socialist agenda in line with that of the rest of the world.
I dont know what it is. Its more fascism than anything since he is basically enslaving us to wall street and the insurance companies.
This health bill is a perfect example of that. Its disgusting to have a mandate to private insurance with zero cost control and zero increase in competition etc.
WWWWTTTFFF IS THIS?
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he even said it himself, he is going to fundamentaly change america, well america was founded on the fundamentals of democracy and freedom, the only other fundamental way to govern is socialism and complete control. I dont understand why people realize that he has admitted to this and is trying to carry it out?
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why people dont realize..... sorry wanted to catch it b4 people blew it up that there was a typo
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why people dont realize..... sorry wanted to catch it b4 people blew it up that there was a typo
people are waking up finally. This health bill is a complete disaster and corporate give away while screwing over people like me.
F.U.B.O.
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Obama does do a good job of keeping the left brainwashed that he is a liberal and not a socialist though. Maybe he took acting while recieving that ivy league education, cause he is good at that.
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Obama does do a good job of keeping the left brainwashed that he is a liberal and not a socialist though. Maybe he took acting while recieving that ivy league education, cause he is good at that.
I still cant get over the fact that his own moronic party is going along with an individual mandate to purchase PRIVATE insurance.
the left would have crashed the WH gates if Bush did this.
But, because ZERO does it, its ok.
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yea but after the walpin thing nothing surprises me any more from this admin, I just cant believe the blatent disregaurd of americans and small business, and the fact that he has any supporters period, there is never a time in this country when small business did not carry the brunt of america, and he is shitting all over the private sector and small businesses
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yea but after the walpin thing nothing surprises me any more from this admin, I just cant believe the blatent disregaurd of americans and small business, and the fact that he has any supporters period, there is never a time in this country when small business did not carry the brunt of america, and he is shitting all over the private sector and small businesses
All of my clients are on the brink due to cash flow problems. They all tell me that they have never seen anything like this and have ZERO hope for any improvement any time soon.
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yea man , i live in the richest county in texas and my businesses are surrounded by homes that are worth more than 15 million dollars, the avg mortgage is 800k and deon sanders mansion is across the street, and all my cliets say the same thing, that if this keeps up for 6 more months they will all be done for. Texas is one of the states that is better off out of the country and every day i see businesses justing down , brand new buildings with the nicest of design and quality just sitting with no tennants and all of these things started being noticable about 4 months ago. hmmmm
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The sad thing is there are so few voices even on the republican side who will declare what Obama is.They still think hes just a liberal.HE IS NOT!!!!He is an anti-American communist.He thinks the US is an evil empire and those that are doing well do so because they have raped and pillaged the poor.His agenda is stealing their wealth and returning it to those he sees as the" rightful" owners of it.
This man is a bitter,little ego maniac with a venomous hatred of the traditions of this country.He hates those that work hard and loves those who depend on the state.He is a racist as well.Obama is everything Rev. Wright is,he just disguises it with better clothes and less open rhetoric.
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Obama has helped one small busienss - retail gun sales. they're having the best year probably since 93/94
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agreed, there needs to be a republican that will just stand up and say what needs to be told, THE TRUTH about obama and all of his affiliations, and exactly where he is taking this country but people are too dam worried about be politcaly correct because the media will tear their personal lives up if they say something neg about obama. The sorry ass left wing media would rather bash somebody for having some back bone then do real reporting
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all this Palin talk is still ridiculous - Ron Paul is the man