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fox has now become the christian channel :D
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fox has now become the christian channel :D
That is SUCH absolute BS. The only one that needs to forgive Tiger is his wife.
Everyone else can suck his golf clubs. It's nobodies business. It's between him and his wife. PERIOD! >:(
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That is SUCH absolute BS. The only one that needs to forgive Tiger is his wife.
Everyone else can suck his golf clubs. It's nobodies business. It's between him and his wife. PERIOD! >:(
It's unfortunate isn't? That all your dirty crap gets aired out. But that's the price you pay for fame. That's the real cost. And he'll have to pay for it all his life, and his children too. :(
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oh my....dont know were to begin....cant even put it into words....I would pray on it but.....ah..nevermind
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That is SUCH absolute BS. The only one that needs to forgive Tiger is his wife.
Everyone else can suck his golf clubs. It's nobodies business. It's between him and his wife. PERIOD! >:(
She should be the one thanking him. She was a nanny when she met him. Now she gets to live the life of a queen. That Tiger's a great guy.
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It's unfortunate isn't? That all your dirty crap gets aired out. But that's the price you pay for fame. That's the real cost. And he'll have to pay for it all his life, and his children too. :(
Yes, it's unfortunate that his private business has been made public, but where the fvck do these arrogant sobs get off proclaiming Tiger needs to be forgiven? I have no business even knowing about this, ...let alone 'forgiving him'. Who the heck am I to forgive him? It's none of my damned business.
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Yes, it's unfortunate that his private business has been made public, but where the fvck do these arrogant sobs get off proclaiming Tiger needs to be forgiven? I have no business even knowing about this, ...let alone 'forgiving him'. Who the heck am I to forgive him? It's none of my damned business.
It's just news. You follow espn/sportscenter at all? A few months back, they did a series of news stories on Tom Cable, the Raiders football coach. He was being scrutinized by the public because he assaulted an assistant coach. They got his former girlfriend on who said he assaulted him and x-wife too. ESPN looked more like a trashy drama show. But it was news. Tiger story is ripe for stuff like that and some christians will get into the message fax is sending.
There always some arrogant tard that can be a mouthpiece for what ever point of view you need to sell news.
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Tom Cable breaking the jaw of another employee in the Raiders organization is definitely sports related news. Guy should have been arrested and canned.
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Tom Cable breaking the jaw of another employee in the Raiders organization is definitely sports related news. Guy should have been arrested and canned.
That's not what I'm talking about. Tom Cable should have got what ever was coming to him in regards to the law. What I'm talking about here is ESPN lowing themselves to Jerry Springer levels by interviewing x-girl friends.
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That's not what I'm talking about. Tom Cable should have got what ever was coming to him in regards to the law. What I'm talking about here is ESPN lowing themselves to Jerry Springer levels by interviewing x-girl friends.
The problem i have with this comment about what Tiger needs to do to get forgiveness, is that it presumes he needs our forgiveness, ...or that we as members of the general public are in a position to grant forgivenessness to him. ::)
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The problem i have with this comment about what Tiger needs to do to get forgiveness, is that it presumes he needs our forgiveness, ...or that we as members of the general public are in a position to grant forgivenessness to him. ::)
I agree.,..but worse than that it presumes he needs to switch his religious beliefs to suit and fall in line with the religious beliefs of the Masses & the idiot that said thats personal religion...which is utterly wrong and egotistical on so many levels it's ridiculous.....
yea I can see the press conference guy- I realize the error in my ways I have found Christ my new personal lord & saviour and threw him I have found forgiveness...I only hope that my wife,kids,sponsors and fans can find it in there hearts and sole to show me the same forgiveness....ha ha he should hire me to write his apology speech.....well it's basically the same BS speech that murderers & rapists give after they find god in prison....same BS speech drug addicts give after they sober up & find god...same BS speech all athletes & famous actors give when they screw up big time....basically just a bunch of examples that religion is for the weak sheep & they use it as a tool to reverse there negative problems and save face....It's the easy way out....tiger might as well go for it....
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It's unfortunate isn't? That all your dirty crap gets aired out. But that's the price you pay for fame. That's the real cost. And he'll have to pay for it all his life, and his children too. :(
So says the ALL SEEING EYE ::)
Maybe Tiger should do as Kobe Bryant, David Letterman etc have done and that is take his ass back onto the golf course and continue playing the game like nothing happened. America with its two second short term memory won't even remember what happened after he wins his next game. With him moping around in silence adn recluse...it only leaves the wild imaginations open to surmise anything.
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So says the ALL SEEING EYE ::)
Maybe Tiger should do as Kobe Bryant, David Letterman etc have done and that is take his ass back onto the golf course and continue playing the game like nothing happened. America with its two second short term memory won't even remember what happened after he wins his next game. With him moping around in silence adn recluse...it only leaves the wild imaginations open to surmise anything.
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Europeans are FAR more forgiving of adultery than Americans.
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So says the ALL SEEING EYE ::)
Maybe Tiger should do as Kobe Bryant, David Letterman etc have done and that is take his ass back onto the golf course and continue playing the game like nothing happened. America with its two second short term memory won't even remember what happened after he wins his next game. With him moping around in silence adn recluse...it only leaves the wild imaginations open to surmise anything.
Beep beep mooney.
Americans won't care soon enough.
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Why would it help if he became Christian? ::)
Christianity is just a made up story to explain our existance basically.
It doesn't help him any better than anything else.
He could enroll in a sex addict course just as well.
Or become a member of some kind of human rights organization and do charity work in the 3rd world.
This religious crap is really getting on my nerves. ::)
If it isn't Muslims being offended by some drawings of their "prophet" - then you have some Christian buffon pronouncing that Tiger Woods need to get Christian or he won't be forgiven.
Guess what - I am cool with Tiger Woods. I give a fcuk about his private life.
All I care about is his golf. If I even care about that, that is.
I tend to prefer real sport, you know. 8)
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and Brit Hume needs to gather up his brain. it fell on the floor.
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I agree.,..but worse than that it presumes he needs to switch his religious beliefs to suit and fall in line with the religious beliefs of the Masses & the idiot that said thats personal religion...which is utterly wrong and egotistical on so many levels it's ridiculous.....
Absolutely!
yea I can see the press conference guy- I realize the error in my ways I have found Christ my new personal lord & saviour and threw him I have found forgiveness...I only hope that my wife,kids,sponsors and fans can find it in there hearts and sole to show me the same forgiveness....ha ha he should hire me to write his apology speech.....well it's basically the same BS speech that murderers & rapists give after they find god in prison....same BS speech drug addicts give after they sober up & find god...same BS speech all athletes & famous actors give when they screw up big time....basically just a bunch of examples that religion is for the weak sheep & they use it as a tool to reverse there negative problems and save face....It's the easy way out....tiger might as well go for it....
You know the really disgusting part of all that? there are some people who would be all over him if he did.
there have even been people on these boards who have said 'they'd leave a spouse who cheated on them, ...unless they discovered Christ, then they'd be willing to forgive them' ::)
"I've found Christ" = 21st century equivalent of Roman Catholic indulgences.
you can do anything and get away with it, as long as you found christ.
I can see it right now... Khalid Sheik Mohammed will find Christ on the eve of his trial,
...and the Christian fundies will petition for his release. ::)
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So says the ALL SEEING EYE ::)
Maybe Tiger should do as Kobe Bryant, David Letterman etc have done and that is take his ass back onto the golf course and continue playing the game like nothing happened. America with its two second short term memory won't even remember what happened after he wins his next game. With him moping around in silence adn recluse...it only leaves the wild imaginations open to surmise anything.
Supposedly, he's not in much of a position to get back on the links and go about his life as if nothing happened.
He's just gone through surgery. His wife smashed him in the face real good with the golf clubs and knocked out a few teeth. She was PISSED!!!!
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That is SUCH absolute BS. The only one that needs to forgive Tiger is his wife.
Everyone else can suck his golf clubs. It's nobodies business. It's between him and his wife. PERIOD! >:(
First, you know darn well that when you are a celebrity and you do something like this, it becomes EVERYONE'S BUSINESS!! That just comes with the turf.
Second, it appears that neither you nor Blacken can hear very well. What Hume said was that, in all likelihood, Tiger's marriage is over.
Hume's comments center on whether Tiger Woods, the man, can recover from this incident. In Hume's view, it will take faith for him to do that and, since Woods is reportedly a Buddhist (a faith that allegedly isn't too high in the forgiveness category), perhaps he should seek the Lord's forgiveness, which would mean a conversion to Christianity.
On an entirely different note, it amazes me as to why Blacken is so obsessed with Fox News. It hasn't dawned on him, yet, that all his blathering doesn't change the fact that his favorite left-winged network (MSNBC) continues to get DESTROYED by Fox, year after year after year.
But, that is another story.
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Europeans are FAR more forgiving of adultery than Americans.
Apparently not the one Tiger was married to. She knocked his teeth out with his own golf clubs.
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Apparently not the one Tiger was married to. She knocked his teeth out with his own golf clubs.
Where did you hear this? The police report (and every other relevant news organization) said he had a fat lip and nothing more. He was even partying it up with his whores not even 48 hours after the incident.
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I agree.,..but worse than that it presumes he needs to switch his religious beliefs to suit and fall in line with the religious beliefs of the Masses & the idiot that said thats personal religion...which is utterly wrong and egotistical on so many levels it's ridiculous.....
yea I can see the press conference guy- I realize the error in my ways I have found Christ my new personal lord & saviour and threw him I have found forgiveness...I only hope that my wife,kids,sponsors and fans can find it in there hearts and sole to show me the same forgiveness....ha ha he should hire me to write his apology speech.....well it's basically the same BS speech that murderers & rapists give after they find god in prison....same BS speech drug addicts give after they sober up & find god...same BS speech all athletes & famous actors give when they screw up big time....basically just a bunch of examples that religion is for the weak sheep & they use it as a tool to reverse there negative problems and save face....It's the easy way out....tiger might as well go for it....
What discussion of this nature would be complete, without a supremely bone-headed statement from L Dawg?
No speech is going to clear Tiger Woods from the mess in which he finds himself. There is no "easy way out" for Woods or anyone else in such a scenario.
Tiger has already paid the price, in terms of the likely destruction of his marriage, millions of dollars in endorsements, and a shattered reputation. Again, Hume's comments were with regards to how Woods, THE MAN, can redeem himself. The concern wasn't for his golf career (likely still intact) or his marriage (likely gone).
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Don't kid yourself. Tiger didn't lose the endorsements because he committed adultery.
He lost them because he announced his retirement from Golf. That was the nail in his endorsement coffin.
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Yes, it's unfortunate that his private business has been made public, but where the fvck do these arrogant sobs get off proclaiming Tiger needs to be forgiven? I have no business even knowing about this, ...let alone 'forgiving him'. Who the heck am I to forgive him? It's none of my damned business.
Is there a point to all this blubbering? Or did you forget that, when this story broke initially, we thought Woods was in a simple car accident?
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Is there a point to all this blubbering? Or did you forget that, when this story broke initially, we thought Woods was in a simple car accident?
Don't be so mean to me, ...I found Christ. :D
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Don't kid yourself. Tiger didn't lose the endorsements because he committed adultery.
He lost them because he announced his retirement from Golf. That was the nail in his endorsement coffin.
Don't kid YOURSELF!!! Tiger Woods' appeal lies, in part, with his then squeaky-clean image.
Plus, this wasn't a mere case of a mere one-time booty call. This is a dude, engaged in what appears to be all-out prostitution soliciting.
As each new "ho" came to the surface, another endorsement went south.
And, it may get a LOT WORSE, before it gets better.
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Who knew that TIGER would live up to his name. 14 different tramps at his disposal. I recommend he go into the porn business...he already has a fitting name. Maybe he will be the next JOHN HOLMES... :P..lol
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Don't be so mean to me, ...I found Christ. :D
haha yep..I switched religions now I'm a god fearing servant....ha ha then after that he can go on and live the single life and plow threw hundreds of women....but it's all good he'll just ask 4 forgiveness 8)
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Don't kid YOURSELF!!! Tiger Woods' appeal lies, in part, with his then squeaky-clean image.
Plus, this wasn't a mere case of a mere one-time booty call. This is a dude, engaged in what appears to be all-out prostitution soliciting.
As each new "ho" came to the surface, another endorsement went south.
And, it may get a LOT WORSE, before it gets better.
So he likes to get laid. Other than the fact that he got caught, how is he any different from any other wealthy high profile man? Most wealthy, powerful men are only as faithful as their options.
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So he likes to get laid. Other than the fact that he got caught, how is he any different from any other wealthy high profile man? Most wealthy, powerful men are only as faithful as their options.
you fool it's a sin...he will burn in hell for getting his dick wet by anyone but his wife 8)
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So he likes to get laid. Other than the fact that he got caught, how is he any different from any other wealthy high profile man? Most wealthy, powerful men are only as faithful as their options.
If you marry such a man (assuming you're not already hitched), is that the excuse you're going to use, if he starts creeping?
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haha yep..I switched religions now I'm a god fearing servant....ha ha then after that he can go on and live the single life and plow threw hundreds of women....but it's all good he'll just ask 4 forgiveness 8)
And the bone-headedness continues......
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If you marry such a man (assuming you're not already hitched), is that the excuse you're going to use, if he starts creeping?
If my man started 'creeping' as you so eloquently put it, ...it would be nobodies business but mine and his.
And were I in Elen Woods' position, I wouldn't want such a difficult time in my life made worse by the lack of privacy.
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Don't kid yourself. Tiger didn't lose the endorsements because he committed adultery.
He lost them because he announced his retirement from Golf. That was the nail in his endorsement coffin.
The fuck are you talking about? He didn't retire and it's widely believed he'll be back for the Masters in a few months. He skipped one event.
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The fuck are you talking about? He didn't retire it's widely believed he'll be back for the Masters in a few months. He skipped one event.
And as soon as he comes back, ...so too will the endorsement offers.
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And as soon as he comes back, ...so too will the endorsement offers.
so he didn't announce his retirement?
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so he didn't announce his retirement?
He did, ...but then again, so did Michael Jordan, ...a few times. :D
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He did, ...but then again, so did Michael Jordan, ...a few times. :D
No, he didn't. He said he was skipping one event and taking a leave of absence to sort out his personal situation. Nowhere did he say he was retiring.
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He did, ...but then again, so did Michael Jordan, ...a few times. :D
when did tiger announce his? i missed it. please link to his retirement announcement.
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when did tiger announce his? i missed it. please link to his retirement announcement.
please search for it on your own. I'm too lazy to go find it.
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please search for it on your own. I'm too lazy to go find it.
you mean like you're too lazy to finish our last conversation?
looks like you opt out when you're caught making shit up.
jag you said that muslim doctrine was "seek knowledge" at the time christian doctrine said "do not eat from the tree of knowledge.
you agree the christian doctrine is from genesis which is supposedly written around 6000 years ago.
how old is islam? all i can find is it is about 1400 hundred years old.
do you have a source that shows that the two doctrines you stated were occuring at the same time?
what years are you talking about?
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Jag's right, Tiger will be back and full of endorsements. He will win a major and it will be held as a great comeback.
Here's a story of what the American people are like:
In spring training this year, A-rod came to bat for the first time . He was showered with a full resounding BOOOO from the spectators. The first pitch was thrown and he hit home run....everyone cheered him.
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when did tiger announce his? i missed it. please link to his retirement announcement.
Good luck finding that. Jag is lying through her teeth again. What he announced was that he was taking an indefinite leave of absence and it's widely believed that he'll be back on the links within three months. He's not going to skip the Masters and he never said that he was retiring.
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All I've seen is talk about extended break. Which seems to be 'just back in time for the yearly Springbreak Anal madness at Augusta'.
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Taking an extended leave / retiring for a while... what's the diff?
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Taking an extended leave / retiring for a while... what's the diff?
so he said he was retiring for awhile? you remember where you saw this? or is berzerkfury right in saying not to bother looking for that either?
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you fool it's a sin...he will burn in hell for getting his dick wet by anyone but his wife 8)
So David and Solomon who are heralded almost as high as Jesus in the Bible are burning in HELL according to your logic. You know David had many many many wives and so did Solomon. Lets not forget Jacob (four wives) and Samson who lusted after women.
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Actually dawg, no. If he accepts Christ has his savior it doesn't matter what he does. He's saved.
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so he said he was retiring for awhile? you remember where you saw this? or is berzerkfury right in saying not to bother looking for that either?
Numerous times on the news.
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Numerous times on the news.
I didn't follow his case very closely, but I do remember him saying he was taking an INDEFINITE LEAVE. Which seems silly.. I mean sports figures in america are caught up in scandals all the time...what makes him think he is any different than any other figure. Get over it and get back on the greens...
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He is NOT and HAS NEVER said he is retiring ::) he said he is going to take a break...
jag is right though he will get back just as many sponsors when he comes back and starts winning again.
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I agree with samson he should simply get back out there and play through it I honestly think it will be worse for Tiger the longer he puts it off.
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Actually dawg, no. If he accepts Christ has his savior it doesn't matter what he does. He's saved.
how convenient...
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Actually dawg, no. If he accepts Christ has his savior it doesn't matter what he does. He's saved.
Says who?
Recalling David and Solomon, at last check, David's sins cost him the lives of his sons (except for Solomon, all his sons died violent/premature deaths, as the sword never left his home).
Solomon's transgressions cost his family the throne of Israel.
Nothing in Scripture maintains that accepting Christ as one's Savior makes him immune from the earthly consequences of his actions.
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If my man started 'creeping' as you so eloquently put it, ...it would be nobodies business but mine and his.
And were I in Elen Woods' position, I wouldn't want such a difficult time in my life made worse by the lack of privacy.
But, as you keep forgetting, if you marry a high-profile guy, it becomes everyone's business. That's especially true, if (as in the case of Woods), his infidelity gets discovered in what was initially a simple and innocent investigation on a traffic accident.
It appears that Mrs. Woods got medieval on her hubby, smashing his car in the process. That ALSO makes it a public matter.
You also forget that it's some of Tiger's whores who keep making this public.
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Says who?
Recalling David and Solomon, at last check, David's sins cost him the lives of his sons (except for Solomon, all his sons died violent/premature deaths, as the sword never left his home).
Solomon's transgressions cost his family the throne of Israel.
Nothing in Scripture maintains that accepting Christ as one's Savior makes him immune from the earthly consequences of his actions.
Hi McWay,
I think Dawg was talking about burning in hell as a result of adultery.
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Hi McWay,
I think Dawg was talking about burning in hell as a result of adultery.
so sex out of wed lock is good to go now?hell yea!!!Im saved!!!
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If my man started 'creeping' as you so eloquently put it, ...it would be nobodies business but mine and his.
And were I in Elen Woods' position, I wouldn't want such a difficult time in my life made worse by the lack of privacy.
That doesn't answer my question. Should you obtain a husband of such means and he starts whoring around on you, will YOU use the same rationale that you keep referencing to excuse Woods' behavior?
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Hi McWay,
I think Dawg was talking about burning in hell as a result of adultery.
I'm aware of that, as difficult as it is to sift through L Dawg's buffoonery to ascertain an actual point.
My point was that, while David was forgiven for his sins, he did NOT go unpunished for them. The death and dysfunction within his family was a harsh sentence for his transgressions.
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That doesn't answer my question. Should you obtain a husband of such means and he starts whoring around on you, will YOU use the same rationale that you keep referencing to excuse Woods' behavior?
Who is excusing his behaviour? I'm saying it is none of my business and it's not my place to judge him.
If he were my husband, ...it would be another story, ...but he is not, therefore... none of my business.
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Who is excusing his behaviour? I'm saying it is none of my business and it's not my place to judge him.
If he were my husband, ...it would be another story, ...but he is not, therefore... none of my business.
YOU ARE excusing his behavior, in a sense, from the following statement, "So he likes to get laid. Other than the fact that he got caught, how is he any different from any other wealthy high profile man? Most wealthy, powerful men are only as faithful as their options.
Again, would that be your rationale, if your husband start creeping? "So he likes to get laid".
That would be your mentality, should your hubby exercise his "options"?
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Here is what nobody wants to look at.Tiger is a black man playing a white mans sport.Christ the clubs he plays tournaments at have ZERO black members.Now,here is this black kid/man coming in and DOMINATING the sport.You think these white bread country club types want that?They already have so much money in the sport,even that doesnt sway them towards Tiger.
When Tiger comes back,you can bet fans will be snapping pictures or couging on every back swing.They will root against him.The other players already hate him.I dont think he will be capeable of winning anymore.Hes used to people cheering him despite his skin color,now he will be a target BECAUSE of his skin color.If he comes back and doesnt win,his sponsors will dry up.Check out Vannity Fair this month,just another nail in his coffin.
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Here is what nobody wants to look at.Tiger is a black man playing a white mans sport.Christ the clubs he plays tournaments at have ZERO black members.Now,here is this black kid/man coming in and DOMINATING the sport.You think these white bread country club types want that?They already have so much money in the sport,even that doesnt sway them towards Tiger.
When Tiger comes back,you can bet fans will be snapping pictures or couging on every back swing.They will root against him.The other players already hate him.I dont think he will be capeable of winning anymore.Hes used to people cheering him despite his skin color,now he will be a target BECAUSE of his skin color.If he comes back and doesnt win,his sponsors will dry up.Check out Vannity Fair this month,just another nail in his coffin.
Who the hell cares about this whoremonger?
He disgraced his family and is a bum. Yes he is the best golfer ever, but he is really a POFS as a person.
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Glass houses. Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.
and a married kobe raped a girl in the ass in a hotel room. and he's back, MVP and reigning champ, and everyone's forgotten.
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Who the hell cares about this whoremonger?
He disgraced his family and is a bum. Yes he is the best golfer ever, but he is really a POFS as a person.
The issue here is that certain people, mainly liberals, are having a herd of cattle, because Brit Hume suggested that for Woods to be redeemed as a man and as a soul, he should seek forgiveness of the Lord Jesus Christ.
This is about his own personal journey as a man, not his golf career or his likely-destroyed marriage.
Hume's claim was that the Buddhist faith (Woods' mother is a Buddhist and Woods himself claims to be one, at least nominally) doesn't offer the type of forgiveness that the Christian faith does.
That's what has the some on the left all bent out of shape.
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Glass houses. Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.
and a married kobe raped a girl in the ass in a hotel room. and he's back, MVP and reigning champ, and everyone's forgotten.
How is Hume in a glass house, unless his divorce was the result of HIS infidelity?
As for Bryant, it's not that everyone has forgotten. To the best of our knowledge, he has not been creeping again (unless you know something we don't).
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Glass houses. Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.
Provide link proving Brit cheated on his first wife.
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Glass houses. Brit himself is on his second marriage, a divorcee.
and a married kobe raped a girl in the ass in a hotel room. and he's back, MVP and reigning champ, and everyone's forgotten.
Kobe DID NOT rape that filthy skank.She wanted to get fucked but Kobe stuck it in her ass.Then that little whore went out and banged another guy right after.The first 6 inches was consensual,it was the last 6 that that bitch didnt like.
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Kobe DID NOT rape that filthy skank.She wanted to get fucked but Kobe stuck it in her ass.Then that little whore went out and banged another guy right after.The first 6 inches was consensual,it was the last 6 that that bitch didnt like.
These star atheletes are really idiots. Arod, Tiger, Kobe, Tyson, etc.
The only one who really did it right from what I can tell is Jeter.
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i dont know that brit cheated, i never siad that.
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IMO, any person on marriage #2, 3, 4, 5 shouldn't be lecturing others on how to be married.
Also, any person whose job it is to report the news shouldn't be lecturing people on converting religion.
Me, I like the news when I turn on fox news. If I wanted to watch a show on why one religion is better than another, I would watch another channel.
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IMO, any person on marriage #2, 3, 4, 5 shouldn't be lecturing others on how to be married.
Also, any person whose job it is to report the news shouldn't be lecturing people on converting religion.
Me, I like the news when I turn on fox news. If I wanted to watch a show on why one religion is better than another, I would watch another channel.
I have not watched cable news in weeks and really dont feel like I have missed anything.
Cable news is horrible. Fox is a joke.
As far as Brit Hume - stick with news.
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IMO, any person on marriage #2, 3, 4, 5 shouldn't be lecturing others on how to be married.
Also, any person whose job it is to report the news shouldn't be lecturing people on converting religion.
Me, I like the news when I turn on fox news. If I wanted to watch a show on why one religion is better than another, I would watch another channel.
Hume wasn't lecturing Woods on how to be married. In fact, Hume's comments were that Woods' marriage is basically destroyed.
His comments were about how Tiger Woods can redeem himself and his soul, how he can improve himself as a man. As the roundtable discussion was ABOUT TIGER WOODS and what he should do, moving forward from this disaster that he's inflicted on himself, Hume's comments were QUITE APPROPRIATE.
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i dont know that brit cheated, i never siad that.
So why bring up his divorce? Sure, Woods will be a divorcee just like Brit, but NOT FOR THE SAME REASON.
Unless Brit is divorced due to his own infidelities or unless you know it was all his fault, then it should not be brought up.
There are other reasons (no where as immoral and as sick as sleeping with dozens of strippers, porn actresses and women seeking 15 minutes of fame) for which people get divorced.
There is a saying. Something about apples to apples, etc...
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youre right on that, i dont know the details.
still, a newsman shouldn't be lecturing on conversions. I'ts a valid point that Tiger was a role model for children, and did a shitty thing there. But saying he should convert, that was overboard.
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Brit should not have commented on conversion/difference in religions. I agree with you on that.
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Well,he wasn't there as a newsman,he was there as a commentator on events.I see no problem with what he said.Its HIS opinion and he was asked HIS opinion.Why is that any different then that dummy Olbermann giving his opinion of peoples intelligence,most times hes commenting on people that are VASTLY smarter then him.Thats a commentators job to give his opinions.
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Well,he wasn't there as a newsman,he was there as a commentator on events.I see no problem with what he said.Its HIS opinion and he was asked HIS opinion.Why is that any different then that dummy Olbermann giving his opinion of peoples intelligence,most times hes commenting on people that are VASTLY smarter then him.Thats a commentators job to give his opinions.
EXACTLY!!!
Hume explained further on the O'Reilly Factor last night. He's a big fan of Woods, not only because of his golfing but because he thought Woods to be a guy of high character.
That image has now been shattered. Hume's comments were his view on how Woods can move forward with his life and seek redemption. Again, it was about Tiger Woods, THE MAN, not the golfer or the husband/father.
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wonder which brand of Christianity Brit is referring to.
the far right, fundamentalist 'every word in the bible is true'
to presbyterians (pre ordained events)
to catholics (holy father in rome knows all)
there is a broad range to choose from.
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wonder which brand of Christianity Brit is referring to.
the far right, fundamentalist 'every word in the bible is true'
to presbyterians (pre ordained events)
to catholics (holy father in rome knows all)
there is a broad range to choose from.
Isnt that true of every religion?Im sure not every Muslim is strapping bombs to himself and yelling ALLAH AKBAR before blowing up a pizza joint,just like I see Jews with beards wearing all black and other Jews who appear to live the life of a pig in a stye[most hollywood jews].I dont think that just relates to Christianity.
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YOU ARE excusing his behavior, in a sense, from the following statement, "So he likes to get laid. Other than the fact that he got caught, how is he any different from any other wealthy high profile man? Most wealthy, powerful men are only as faithful as their options.
Again, would that be your rationale, if your husband start creeping? "So he likes to get laid".
That would be your mentality, should your hubby exercise his "options"?
That's my mentality for any man whose adultery is none of my business
If my husband committed adultery, ...it would be a private matter between us... no one else,
...and anyone who wanted to weigh in on the matter would promptly be invited to zip it.
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That's my mentality for any man whose adultery is none of my business
If my husband committed adultery, ...it would be a private matter between us... no one else,
...and anyone who wanted to weigh in on the matter would promptly be invited to zip it.
its not quite that easy dear a part of tigers appeal was his wholesome image. I agree that its not anybodies business but him and his wife but that doesnt mean that other ppl will not judge him b/c of his actions in his personal life and if those ppl feel he needs to be forgiven or they will view his sponsors unfavorably.
Its more of forgiving him for not being who everyone thought he was and who the companies sold him as rather than forgiving him for cheating on his wife.
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That's my mentality for any man whose adultery is none of my business
If my husband committed adultery, ...it would be a private matter between us... no one else,
...and anyone who wanted to weigh in on the matter would promptly be invited to zip it.
And yet again, you forget the territory that comes with a high-profile guy. Again, nobody peered into Tiger Woods' private life. We all thought he got hurt in a car accident.
It turns out, again, that his wife got medieval on him. And, NOW, we know why. Add to that, all the "hoes" that are coming out the woodwork, claiming they got freaky with Woods; and you have all the makings of a PUBLIC scandal.
It ain't a private matter, anymore.
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That's my mentality for any man whose adultery is none of my business
If my husband committed adultery, ...it would be a private matter between us... no one else,
...and anyone who wanted to weigh in on the matter would promptly be invited to zip it.
It may not be your buiness, ut it definately is the businessof his sponsors and corporate clients for lack of abetter erm who pay him millions and millions of dollars based upon the image tey think he gives to ther products.
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It may not be your buiness, ut it definately is the businessof his sponsors and corporate clients for lack of abetter erm who pay him millions and millions of dollars based upon the image tey think he gives to ther products.
EXACTLY!!
Tiger's whoring can potentially cost them MILLIONS of $$$$. As his stock drops, so do their profits.
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but that doesnt mean that other ppl will not judge him b/c of his actions in his personal life and if those ppl feel he needs to be forgiven.
Its more of forgiving him for not being who everyone thought he was and who the companies sold him as rather than forgiving him for cheating on his wife.
only god (not just any god though)Jesus Christ lord and Saviour should judge him....
The only one he needs forgiveness from is our father who kicks it in heaven.The Big J Dawg himself....
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only god (not just any god though)Jesus Christ lord and saviour should judge him....
The only one he needs forgiveness from is our father who kicks it in heaven.The Big J Dawg himself....
He should seek forgiveness from his sponsors as well.
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only god (not just any god though)Jesus Christ lord and Saviour should judge him....
The only one he needs forgiveness from is our father who kicks it in heaven.The Big J Dawg himself....
I wasnt addressing humes comments on religion and woods simply jags point of view on the subject...
you seem to have an arrogance about you Dawg if youd like me to make you look foolish in regards to your beliefs on religion Id be more than happy... ;)
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I wasnt addressing humes comments on religion and woods simply jags point of view on the subject...
you seem to have an arrogance about you Dawg if youd like me to make you look foolish in regards to your beliefs on religion Id be more than happy... ;)
you don't have to make me look foolish I do that well enough myself :D....but if you wanna pile some more on by all means go for it....In the mean time I'll be praying for you....
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its not quite that easy dear a part of tigers appeal was his wholesome image. I agree that its not anybodies business but him and his wife but that doesnt mean that other ppl will not judge him b/c of his actions in his personal life and if those ppl feel he needs to be forgiven or they will view his sponsors unfavorably.
Its more of forgiving him for not being who everyone thought he was and who the companies sold him as rather than forgiving him for cheating on his wife.
And this is one of the big issues I have with it. Tiger never put himself out there to be anything other than a great golfer. Everything else is nobodies business, and he never put his sex life out for scrutiny. too many people look at celebrities and project onto them who they want them to be, without having a clue as to who they are, ...then they blame them for not measuring up to their own false image of who they are. this pisses me off to no end. just because you see someone portraying a 'character' in a film or TV show, or just because you see someone extremely proficient at a particular sport, ...doesn't mean they are who you want them to be. the public projects their own image of who they want Tiger to be, ...then fault him for not being it? that's BS! See the man for who he is... a great golfer. Everything else... vis-a-vis his private life, you don't know... and don't have a right to know.
If you've never been put up on a pedestal, against your own will, ...you have no idea what I'm refering to.
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And this is one of the big issues I have with it. Tiger never put himself out there to be anything other than a great golfer. Everything else is nobodies business, and he never put his sex life out for scrutiny. too many people look at celebrities and project onto them who they want them to be, without having a clue as to who they are, ...then they blame them for not measuring up to their own false image of who they are. this pisses me off to no end. just because you see someone portraying a 'character' in a film or TV show, or just because you see someone extremely proficient at a particular sport, ...doesn't mean they are who you want them to be. the public projects their own image of who they want Tiger to be, ...then fault him for not being it? that's BS! See the man for who he is... a great golfer. Everything else... vis-a-vis his private life, you don't know... and don't have a right to know.
If you've never been put up on a pedestal, against your own will, ...you have no idea what I'm refering to.
Oh please, what a joke you are.
his whole image was of a clean cut straight laced guy, not a filthy whoremonger POFS.
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And this is one of the big issues I have with it. Tiger never put himself out there to be anything other than a great golfer. Everything else is nobodies business, and he never put his sex life out for scrutiny. too many people look at celebrities and project onto them who they want them to be, without having a clue as to who they are, ...then they blame them for not measuring up to their own false image of who they are. this pisses me off to no end. just because you see someone portraying a 'character' in a film or TV show, or just because you see someone extremely proficient at a particular sport, ...doesn't mean they are who you want them to be. the public projects their own image of who they want Tiger to be, ...then fault him for not being it? that's BS! See the man for who he is... a great golfer. Everything else... vis-a-vis his private life, you don't know... and don't have a right to know.
If you've never been put up on a pedestal, against your own will, ...you have no idea what I'm refering to.
LOL I agree with you jag but dont act like his sponsors didnt play up that image of him as a squeky clean guy. He signed up with those sponsors and by doing so did project that image to the public.
Ive been put on a pedestal against my will jag, have you?
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I completely agree Jag. All these people 'butthurt' by Tigers infidelity are really retarded. If you have such low self esteem that you have to look up to an athlete's personal life for inspiration in your every day life you really have more issues than Tiger's had woman (i know i know but still it's for effect). I admire Tigers great dedication to the game of golf and always will. His personal issues are his alone and i don't really think it's mine or your business. If you purchased a GM or a razor because you thought 'hey Tiger is a great guy isn't he? I should buy this razor so i am too!' then like i said you have some serious issues.
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I completely agree Jag. All these people 'butthurt' by Tigers infidelity are really retarded. If you have such low self esteem that you have to look up to an athlete's personal life for inspiration in your every day life you really have more issues than Tiger's had woman (i know i know but still it's for effect). I admire Tigers great dedication to the game of golf and always will. His personal issues are his alone and i don't really think it's mine or your business. If you purchased a GM or a razor because you thought 'hey Tiger is a great guy isn't he? I should buy this razor so i am too!' then like i said you have some serious issues.
nice straw man ::)
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nice straw man ::)
Sounds like someones regretting their Mach 3 purchase :-*
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Sounds like someones regretting their Mach 3 purchase :-*
I'm never buying a Buick ever!
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Sounds like someones regretting their Mach 3 purchase :-*
Gillette Fusion, all the way.....best taint shave of them all.
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LOL I agree with you jag but dont act like his sponsors didnt play up that image of him as a squeky clean guy. He signed up with those sponsors and by doing so did project that image to the public.
Ive been put on a pedestal against my will jag, have you?
More times than I care to recall.... that's why I abhor groupies. That's what the groupie mentality does;
it idealizes a person projecting onto them qualities, and character traits they may not possess.
Then they blame YOU for not epitomizing the figment of their own warped, bizarre, imagination.
The last time that I'm aware of, was particularly painful in many ways... particularly because I didn't see it coming.
I'm usually able to see the warning signs, ...but this time I missed them... come to think of it... they weren't really there.
The fool thought I was sitting at home every night reading a bible... and was crushed to discover that ain't my cup of tea.
What an idiot!
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More times than I care to recall.... that's why I abhor groupies. That's what the groupie mentality does;
it idealizes a person projecting onto them qualities, and character traits they may not possess.
Then they blame YOU for not epitomizing the figment of their own warped, bizarre, imagination.
The last time that I'm aware of, was particularly painful in many ways... particularly because I didn't see it coming.
I'm usually able to see the warning signs, ...but this time I missed them... come to think of it... they weren't really there.
The fool thought I was sitting at home every night reading a bible... and was crushed to discover that ain't my cup of tea.
What an idiot!
LOL i wasnt talking in a relationship sense...everybody has been put on a pedestal in the relationship sense
why did that gentlemen think that of you? just curious
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LOL i wasnt talking in a relationship sense...everybody has been put on a pedestal in the relationship sense
Every interaction is a relationship of sorts... whether romantic or platonic.
why did that gentlemen think that of you? just curious
'Cause he was a fvcking delusional idiot!
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Every interaction is a relationship of sorts... whether romantic or platonic.
'Cause he was a fvcking delusional idiot!
Oh I'm sure Jag. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Oh I'm sure Jag. ::) ::) ::) ::)
What would you call someone who thought I was home every night devouring a bible?
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Every interaction is a relationship of sorts... whether romantic or platonic.
'Cause he was a fvcking delusional idiot!
yes but I was referring to being put on a pedestal by ppl you dont know...has this ever happend to you?
there had to have been a reason jag whether it was a good reason or not there was a reason for him to feel that way...what was it/were they? again just curious if you dont feel comfortable you dont have to say
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That's my mentality for any man whose adultery is none of my business
If my husband committed adultery, ...it would be a private matter between us... no one else,
...and anyone who wanted to weigh in on the matter would promptly be invited to zip it.
so this applies to everyone but the mccains?
HOWEVER, ...if you do want to look at adulterous presidential candidates, ...look to mccain.
Cindy, born into extreme wealth & privilege, inherits $100 million dollars, heiress to the Budweiser dynasty, commits adultery with a man old enough to be her father,
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yes but I was referring to being put on a pedestal by ppl you dont know...has this ever happend to you?
And as I have stated... YES, ...more times than I care to recall.
there had to have been a reason jag whether it was a good reason or not there was a reason for him to feel that way...what was it/were they? again just curious if you dont feel comfortable you dont have to say
I believe I already answered it. Because he was a delusional idiot who saw what he wanted to see.
it would be like me picturing you playing Scrabble everynight. Have you told me you play Scrabble everynight?
If you had infact told me you watched TV, post on the internet or played video games everynight, ...would I have reason to be shocked to discover you weren't playing Scrabble? Should I be shocked that when given the choice you would opt for sunday night football over a game of Scrabble? Would I have cause to believe you deceived me... or would it be a more accurate statement to say I deceived myself? there's a bit more to it than that, ...but suffice to say... he had issues... severe ones. The type that required professional help.
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And as I have stated... YES, ...more times than I care to recall.
I believe I already answered it. Because he was a delusional idiot who saw what he wanted to see.
it would be like me picturing you playing Scrabble everynight. Have you told me you play Scrabble everynight?
If you had infact told me you watched TV, post on the internet or played video games everynight, ...would I have reason to be shocked to discover you weren't playing Scrabble? Should I be shocked that when given the choice you would opt for sunday night football over a game of Scrabble? Would I have cause to believe you deceived me... or would it be a more accurate statement to say I deceived myself? there's a bit more to it than that, ...but suffice to say... he had issues... severe ones. The type that required professional help.
So instead you were frequenting S&M bars?
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so this applies to everyone but the mccains?
Hahahah nice pull. How far back did you have to go to get that?
It applies to everyone who doesn't put themselves out there to be moral bastions of society.
...and despite my non chalant view on the matter, I'm not above pointing out something to the holier than thou crowd, that I know matter to them.
It's kind of like Craig. Personally, I don't give a poop that he likes to play with other men, but I do think it highly hypocritical that he's trolling public washrooms for anonymous filthy sex, after wagging his finger at Clinton for getting a blowjob "Mr Clinton, you've been a naughty dirty little boy" ::)
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So instead you were frequenting S&M bars?
LOL. Hardly. Just wasn't into reading the bible, ...let alone reading it for 6 hrs a day.
You'd think they'd get a clue when they fax you 3 pages full of bible references, and you tell them point blank "Don't send me this shit. I ain't reading it and I sure as heck ain't about to start cross referencing it."
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LOL. Hardly. Just wasn't into reading the bible, ...let alone reading it for 6 hrs a day.
You'd think they'd get a clue when they fax you 3 pages full of bible references, and you tell them point blank "Don't send me this shit. I ain't reading it and I sure as heck ain't about to start cross referencing it."
Ha ha. What a nightmare!
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Hahahah nice pull. How far back did you have to go to get that?
i have a very good memory. ;)
It applies to everyone who doesn't put themselves out there to be moral bastions of society.
...and despite my non chalant view on the matter, I'm not above pointing out something to the holier than thou crowd, that I know matter to them.
It's kind of like Craig. Personally, I don't give a poop that he likes to play with other men, but I do think it highly hypocritical that he's trolling public washrooms for anonymous filthy sex, after wagging his finger at Clinton for getting a blowjob "Mr Clinton, you've been a naughty dirty little boy" ::)
i wasn't aware the mccains put themselves out there to be moral bastions of society but believe me i see your point on hypocrisy of people like craig and spitzer and other tools in that category
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Ha ha. What a nightmare!
You have nooooo idea. :-X
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You have nooooo idea. :-X
No I dont. At least you have something to look back and laugh at right?
On second thought, maybe he was trying an exorcism on you? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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No I dont. At least you have something to look back and laugh at right?
It was so disgustingly pathetic, ...it went far beyond being funny.
On second thought, maybe he was trying an exorcism on you? ;D ;D ;D ;D
He needs a good exorcism of his own.
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And as I have stated... YES, ...more times than I care to recall.
I believe I already answered it. Because he was a delusional idiot who saw what he wanted to see.
it would be like me picturing you playing Scrabble everynight. Have you told me you play Scrabble everynight?
If you had infact told me you watched TV, post on the internet or played video games everynight, ...would I have reason to be shocked to discover you weren't playing Scrabble? Should I be shocked that when given the choice you would opt for sunday night football over a game of Scrabble? Would I have cause to believe you deceived me... or would it be a more accurate statement to say I deceived myself? there's a bit more to it than that, ...but suffice to say... he had issues... severe ones. The type that required professional help.
nvm ::)
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If You Can Find a Better Deal, Take It!
by Ann Coulter
humanevents.com (http://humanevents.com)
Someone mentioned Christianity on television recently and liberals reacted with their usual howls of rage and blinking incomprehension.
On a Fox News panel discussing Tiger Woods, Brit Hume said, perfectly accurately:
"The extent to which he can recover, it seems to me, depends on his faith. He is said to be a Buddhist. I don't think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. So, my message to Tiger would be, 'Tiger, turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world."
Hume's words, being 100 percent factually correct, sent liberals into a tizzy of sputtering rage, once again illustrating liberals' copious ignorance of Christianity. (Also illustrating the words of the Bible: "How is it you do not understand me when I speak? It is because you cannot bear to listen to my words." John 8:43.)
In The Washington Post, Tom Shales demanded that Hume apologize, saying he had "dissed about half a billion Buddhists on the planet."
Is Buddhism about forgiveness? Because, if so, Buddhists had better start demanding corrections from every book, magazine article and blog posting ever written on the subject, which claims Buddhists don't believe in God, but try to become their own gods.
I can't imagine that anyone thinks Tiger's problem was that he didn't sufficiently think of himself as a god, especially after that final putt in the Arnold Palmer Invitational last year.
In light of Shales' warning Hume about "what people are saying" about him, I hope Hume's a Christian, but that's not apparent from his inarguable description of Christianity. Of course, given the reaction to his remarks, apparently one has to be a regular New Testament scholar to have so much as a passing familiarity with the basic concept of Christianity.
On MSNBC, David Shuster invoked the "separation of church and television" (a phrase that also doesn't appear in the Constitution), bitterly complaining that Hume had brought up Christianity "out-of-the-blue" on "a political talk show."
Why on earth would Hume mention religion while discussing a public figure who had fallen from grace and was in need of redemption and forgiveness? Boy, talk about coming out of left field!
What religion -- what topic -- induces this sort of babbling idiocy? (If liberals really want to keep people from hearing about God, they should give Him his own show on MSNBC.)
Most perplexing was columnist Dan Savage's indignant accusation that Hume was claiming that Christianity "offers the best deal -- it gives you the get-out-of-adultery-free card that other religions just can't."
In fact, that's exactly what Christianity does. It's the best deal in the universe. (I know it seems strange that a self-described atheist and "radical sex advice columnist f*****" like Savage would miss the central point of Christianity, but there it is.)
God sent his only son to get the crap beaten out of him, die for our sins and rise from the dead. If you believe that, you're in. Your sins are washed away from you -- sins even worse than adultery! -- because of the cross.
"He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross." Colossians 2:14.
Surely you remember the cross, liberals -- the symbol banned by ACLU lawsuits from public property throughout the land?
Christianity is simultaneously the easiest religion in the world and the hardest religion in the world.
In the no-frills, economy-class version, you don't need a church, a teacher, candles, incense, special food or clothing; you don't need to pass a test or prove yourself in any way. All you'll need is a Bible (in order to grasp the amazing deal you're getting) and probably a water baptism, though even that's disputed.
You can be washing the dishes or walking your dog or just sitting there minding your business hating Susan Sarandon and accept that God sent his only son to die for your sins and rise from the dead ... and you're in!
"Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9.
If you do that, every rotten, sinful thing you've ever done is gone from you. You're every bit as much a Christian as the pope or Billy Graham.
No fine print, no "your mileage may vary," no blackout dates. God ought to do a TV spot: "I'm God Almighty, and if you can find a better deal than the one I'm offering, take it."
The Gospel makes this point approximately 1,000 times. Here are a few examples at random:
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God." Ephesians 2:8.
"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23.
In a boiling rage, liberals constantly accuse Christians of being "judgmental." No, we're relieved.
Christianity is also the hardest religion in the world because, if you believe Christ died for your sins and rose from the dead, you have no choice but to give your life entirely over to Him. No more sexual promiscuity, no lying, no cheating, no stealing, no killing inconvenient old people or unborn babies -- no doing what all the other kids do.
And no more caring what the world thinks of you -- because, as Jesus warned in a prophecy constantly fulfilled by liberals: The world will hate you.
With Christianity, your sins are forgiven, the slate is wiped clean and your eternal life is guaranteed through nothing you did yourself, even though you don't deserve it. It's the best deal in the universe.
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Christianity is the perfect one for Tiger. It's much more forgiving; like a "get out of jail" card in Monoply. Newt, Karl, Rush, et al have greatly benefited by divorce with this religious choice. For heaven's sake; dont become Jewish; the Old Testament god was a mean one!
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He can become a Christian if he wants.... heck, he can even channel Jerry Fallwell from the other side,
...from what I hear, ...his wife is still divorcing his ass! So much for forgiveness and his slate being wiped clean.
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He can become a Christian if he wants.... heck, he can even channel Jerry Fallwell from the other side,
...from what I hear, ...his wife is still divorcing his ass! So much for forgiveness and his slate being wiped clean.
Apparently you have a short memory, Jaguar.
As has been mentioned a few times here, forgiveness from sin (from a spiritual and redemption standpoint) HARDLY MEANS you always escape the earthly consequences of your actions.
Again, see the example of King David. The Lord forgave him of his sin. But, did he pay a HUGE PRICE for his indiscretion (i.e. the loss of his firstborn son with Bathsheba, and several sons thereafter, as he was told the sword would never leave his household).
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Christianity is the perfect one for Tiger. It's much more forgiving; like a "get out of jail" card in Monoply. Newt, Karl, Rush, et al have greatly benefited by divorce with this religious choice. For heaven's sake; dont become Jewish; the Old Testament god was a mean one!
Where'd you get this silly logic? There's hardly any "Get out of jail"-type deal, regarding Christianity. This was about redemption of Tiger Woods, the man. Hume basically said as much, as he clearly indicated that Woods' marriage was shot and his relationship with his kids in serious jeopardy.