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Given the march to a system of government where dictatorship and absolute control is/will be the norm I would say YES that government of america will shoot its citizens for the sake of control and implementing its policies/laws. It has happened before...
Would US Troops Fire on Americans?
March 15, 2010
(http://www.henrymakow.com/bonusarmy.jpg)There were more than one hundred dead and wounded, including children and
babies,in 1932 when US troops dispersed a camp of WW1 veterans demanding
only what had been promised them.
Have No Doubt America...
By M. Ernest Smith
msmith181@columbus.rr.com
(for henrymakow.com)
The question often has been asked, especially during these last few years, if American military troops would indeed fire upon American citizens if so ordered by Washington. The answer? Have no doubt America, because it's already happened.
WWI was a terrible war that introduced new weapons and tactics resulting 100,000 US deaths as well as US 200,000 wounded and gassed in the first eighteen months alone.
The soldiers fighting that war for America earned between $1.00 and $1.50 per day while those serving under Selective Service in factories supporting the war earned as much as ten times that amount. After the war, the veteran soldiers demanded to be paid what they had lost during the war years as "adjusted compensation" as promised by the United States government. Later, their detractors would call it a "bonus".
FAST FORWARD TO 1928
Herbert Hoover, a self-made millionaire, said during his inaugural address that "the future of the country was bright with hope"... Seven months later the Great Depression hit. In 1932, there was 25% unemployment and many of the unemployed were WWI veterans and their families. It was decided that the veterans lead by Walter W. Waters would march on Washington, D.C.
By May of 1932, there were approximately 10,000 veterans and a few families totaling 30,000, who occupied what was called the Anacostia Flats neighborhood of Washington, D.C. where the vets slept in tents, barrels and some makeshift huts in almost a foot of mud.
Later, the veterans and their families proceeded to march and demonstrate to remind the Congressional representatives to keep their promise of compensation to the WWI vet, so badly needed and necessary during this nationwide financial disaster.
At first, the Congress approved the measure but the Senate soundly defeated it days later. It was during this time President Hoover resolved to drive the veterans out of Washington D.C. back to their homes. However, the larger problem was that most of the veterans didn't have any homes. Many were squatting in abandoned buildings.
Solution? President Hoover ordered the Washington, D.C. police to drive the vets out of the abandoned buildings. As with any forcible action, it was met with resistance...people fought the police...bricks were thrown and the police opened fire: two vets were killed.
It seems that anytime there is a police action around a government capital, troops are called...reader, take notice.
GENERAL MACARTHUR
President Hoover ordered General Douglas MacArthur who led 200 Cavalry, 400 armed troops, tanks and other armored vehicles against AMERICAN citizens and veterans of a war the government sent them to fight and die!
General MacArthur was not the only "Who's Who" participating in this "tyrannyfest", General MacArthur's aide, General Dwight D. Eisenhower and then Major George Patton also had a hand in the action. It should be noted that a witness, then seven year old Naamen Seigle, witnessed Major Patton draw his saber and lead the charge against the mass of veterans.
With Patton and the Calvary charging, the 400 ground troops dawned their gas masks and proceeded to hurl gas grenades into the crowd of veterans, a bitter reminder of battles such as in the Meuse-Argonne Forest in France.
No, this gassing was compliments of their own government. As the veterans ran choking from the effects of the gas, the troops with bayonets fixed, charged and jabbed their way into the crowd. Hundreds of veterans were injured and several killed.
After General MacArthur gained control of the situation, President Hoover ordered the General to proceed no further. But General MacArthur had other ideas. General MacArthur is quoted as saying "I cannot bother with pieces of paper during a military operation" and advanced on the Anacostia Flats encampment. It was during this unauthorized attack that MacArthur ordered the burning of the encampment to the ground.
What justification did General MacArthur use? He felt a Communist plot for revolution was at hand. Reader, beware.
What do we learn from this piece of history? The government will use our own military to suppress its citizenry if it feels threatened and it will use any excuse to do so.
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Note: Posse Comitatus does not apply to Washington D.C. because it is a federal district governed by the U.S. Congress (U.S. Constitution, Article 1. Section 8. Clause 17). As usual, they have their bases covered.
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Mike Smith is a 49 year old Senior at Liberty University majoring in Psychology and preparing for his Masters work in Professional Counseling. " I find myself apolitical with only the best interest of humanity in mind and a firm believer in God and Truth."
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I think they would personally, especially if the soldiers are sent to areas not of their hometown. I live in NYC and if someone from Nebraska were sent to my hood, I'm sure Wako, Ruby Ridge, etc, would happen. .
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I think they would personally, especially if the soldiers are sent to areas not of their hometown. I live in NYC and if someone from Nebraska were sent to my hood, I'm sure Wako, Ruby Ridge, etc, would happen. .
Sad but true...
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It's often talked about how kids of today differ from kids of say the WWII era. One of the most common observations seems to be that the generation that hit the sands of Omaha Beach, or Iwo Jima were a tougher, more patriotic group that were willing to sacrifice much more than the generation of today. Whether that's actually true or not, it does at least raise the question that troops today may not be as willing as troops back then to follow orders they may find that objectionable. I'm leaning towards it being unlikely they would
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It's often talked about how kids of today differ from kids of say the WWII era. One of the most common observations seems to be that the generation that hit the sands of Omaha Beach, or Iwo Jima were a tougher, more patriotic group that were willing to sacrifice much more than the generation of today. Whether that's actually true or not, it does at least raise the question that troops today may not be as willing as troops back then to follow orders they may find that objectionable. I'm leaning towards it being unlikely they would
I really dont want to roll the dice TBH.
Ever see this clip:
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It's often talked about how kids of today differ from kids of say the WWII era. One of the most common observations seems to be that the generation that hit the sands of Omaha Beach, or Iwo Jima were a tougher, more patriotic group that were willing to sacrifice much more than the generation of today. Whether that's actually true or not, it does at least raise the question that troops today may not be as willing as troops back then to follow orders they may find that objectionable. I'm leaning towards it being unlikely they would
Does this mean Americans are becoming more like the French? :(