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If the healthcare Bill passes this crucial juncture
I'm expecting quite a few..
I'm expecting tomorrow to be a very chaotic day around the US, as tea-baggers will be out in full-force in major metropolitan Areas..
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something to occupy the 24 hour news cycle...
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I'm wondering if i'll have to leave early for work tomorrow...
Watching c-span right now...
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nothing will happen
ok - maybe Freedom Works will gin up few hundred out of work/unemployable Tbaggers to scream and moan for a bit but I think we're more likely to see groups of people applauding this legislation (as flawed as it is) rather than protesting
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nothing will happen
ok - maybe Freedom Works will gin up few hundred out of work/unemployable Tbaggers to scream and moan for a bit but I think we're more likely to see groups of people applauding this legislation (as flawed as it is) rather than protesting
LOL youre right the majority of americans dont want this bill passed, think it will hurt more than help and dont like the way its being rammed through...but I am positive if you watch MSNBC which seems to be the only place you get your info from you will only see ppl applauding ::) goodness gracious
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LOL youre right the majority of americans dont want this bill passed, think it will hurt more than help and dont like the way its being rammed through...but I am positive if you watch MSNBC which seems to be the only place you get your info from you will only see ppl applauding ::) goodness gracious
do you have insurance yet?
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do you have insurance yet?
nope b/c I chooo chooo chooooseeee not to...
you have a clue yet?
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nope b/c I chooo chooo chooooseeee not to...
you have a clue yet?
wait actually hahaha yes I do even though I am seasonal right now my company was nice enough to extend it to me. ;)
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you have a clue yet?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/126812/Americans-Expect-Health-Bill-Mainly-Help-Poor-Uninsured.aspx
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wait actually hahaha yes I do even though I am seasonal right now my company was nice enough to extend it to me. ;)
you forgot you had insurance?
Is it free (i.e. paid by your employer) or do share part of the expense?
btw - what is your seasonal job? (just curious)
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/126812/Americans-Expect-Health-Bill-Mainly-Help-Poor-Uninsured.aspx
aren't you poor and used to also be uninsured?
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do you have insurance yet?
i dont....but have enough pride to NOT go begging other people to pay for it
i guess obama dosen't believe in work ethic and pride
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you have a clue yet?
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/02/news/economy/postal_service_jobs/
post office is doing just fine right straw?
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i dont....but have enough pride to NOT go begging other people to pay for it
i guess obama dosen't believe in work ethic and pride
straw doesnt quite understand work ethic and pride...
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you forgot you had insurance?
Is it free (i.e. paid by your employer) or do share part of the expense?
btw - what is your seasonal job? (just curious)
I pay for it through my employer though
Tax pro for HRBLOCK
what is it you do?
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i dont....but have enough pride to NOT go begging other people to pay for it
i guess obama dosen't believe in work ethic and pride
who's is making you beg?
I'm sure though if you got really sick or injured you'd by crying like a baby for help and probably force your parents into bankruptcy to help you
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aren't you poor and used to also be uninsured?
LOL never said I was poor, I did used to be uninsured as I was unemployed and went back to school to finish up a 2nd bachelors... ;)
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straw doesnt quite understand work ethic and pride...
yeah except I've been fully employed since a month after I graduated from college and self employed since late 1991.
I've paid for my own insurance and probably paid more in taxes than you've made so far in your life (which I realize is not really saying much in your case since you're, by your own admission, chronically underemployed)
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LOL never said I was poor, I did used to be uninsured as I was unemployed and went back to school to finish up a 2nd bachelors... ;)
2 bachelors and the best you can do is part time tax prep work?
sounds like some bad planning on your part
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2 bachelors and the best you can do is part time tax prep work?
sounds like some bad planning on your part
hahah Im still in school for the 2nd bachelors hahahah I worked in construction but after the economy went to crap work slowed so I went back to school...no worries straw Ill be just fine.
and what do you do?(just curious)
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http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/02/news/economy/postal_service_jobs/
post office is doing just fine right straw?
they're not doing any worse than any other business right now
200+ years of operation and they can deliver a letter across the country for ~ 50 cents (something that Fed Ex, UPS, etc.. can't do)
The US Postal Service will still be around when you and I are both long dead
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yeah except I've been fully employed since a month after I graduated from college and self employed since late 1991.
I've paid for my own insurance and probably paid more in taxes than you've made so far in your life (which I realize is not really saying much in your case since you're, by your own admission, chronically underemployed)
hahah well the job market wasnt quite this bad back in the 70's was it? ;D
Who said im chronically underemployed? :o
and what does any of this have to do with the premise of this thread and your ignorant disconnect with the majority of america? ;) LMFAO man you flail alot hahahahhaaa
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hahah Im still in school for the 2nd bachelors hahahah I worked in construction but after the economy went to crap work slowed so I went back to school...no worries straw Ill be just fine.
and what do you do?(just curious)
You could say I'm a consultant
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who's is making you beg?
I'm sure though if you got really sick or injured you'd by crying like a baby for help and probably force your parents into bankruptcy to help you
if and when i got hurt....right... ::)
so we should pay for healthcare for the lower 20% of dumbfucks IF and WHEN they get hurt...
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You could say I'm a consultant
you could say im a lot of things but i was forth coming with you so why not be honest with me...ashamed of your career choice?
you seem to think that being underemployed is something to be ashamed of that going back to school is as well...yet you wont tell us what it is you do? ;D :D ;) hahhahahha LMFAO classic
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You could say I'm a consultant
LOL im a consultant as well straw ;D ;) LMFAOROTFL hahahaha
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the 20% of the population that straw here is speaking are the people that r poor now....their parents were poor...their grandparents were poor and so on...
WHILE LIVING IN ONE OF THE BEST ENONOMIES ON THE PLANET..for the most part
so you could say they r "generational losers"...i mean he keeps throwing that my parents could help me out in my face...buut is it MY fault that your parents were also fuck ups... :-\
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the 20% of the population that straw here is speaking are the people that r poor now....their parents were poor...their grandparents were poor and so on...
WHILE LIVING IN ONE OF THE BEST ENONOMIES ON THE PLANET..for the most part
so you could say they r "generational losers"...i mean he keeps throwing that my parents could help me out in my face...buut is it MY fault that your parents were also fuck ups... :-\
LOL and makes fun of me for being underemployed and going back to school but he wants to help those ppl out as well hahahahah making fun of the ppl he wants to help... ;) ignorant disconnect describes straw to a "T"
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LOL and makes fun of me for being underemployed and going back to school but he wants to help those ppl out as well hahahahah making fun of the ppl he wants to help... ;) ignorant disconnect describes straw to a "T"
successful people like u that r going to school and KNOW they have a bright future ahead dont want the governments help...they know they can make it on their own thankyou...
only the dumbfucks that r too stupid to make enough $ to afford insurance need a handout from the govt :-\
yanno whats gonna happen...the great doctors in this country r gonna go elsewhere to make $ and we r gonna be left with the C students of medschool...
on the bright side...you and i will be able to travel to get the best healthcare while these people will have to be content with the scraps the govt throws at them
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Yeah Straw what do you really do for a living? You make fun of someone with a part time job in this economy calling it "bad planning". How fucking clueless are you?! I guess all the millions out of work is because of their "bad planning"? Never mind that a lot of them busted their asses but their companies went under or work was insufficient. You are in denial you don't know what's going on around you.
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LOL and makes fun of me for being underemployed and going back to school but he wants to help those ppl out as well hahahahah making fun of the ppl he wants to help... ;) ignorant disconnect describes straw to a "T"
Props to you for going to school tony. Anytime someone starts talking down to you and claiming they make more money than you, when they've never even met you and really know nothing about you, you know that person is (1) insecure, (2) probably lying, and (3) unable to address the actual subject at hand.
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Props to tony for going back to school. Wise man say, you work when the economy is good, and you go to school when the economy is bad.
it takes a lot of courage and humility to do this (go back to humbling work even though you have the BS degree), i've done it. best move of my life.
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Those that support this legislation seem to be missing one of the key elements of being an American in which that is, "We have the right to fail" at that point it's up to us to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and move forward or we can choose to lie in the dirt and cry. Lot's of respect for this Tony guy choosing to take care of himself instead of demanding others take care of him.
Now I realize there are those who end up face down in the dirt that do not have the ability to take care of themselves, these people do legitimately exist but in America we are profound in taking care of our own...we're the most charitable country in the world, in 2007 & 2008 in midst of a recession we still gave 20 times the amount per-cap of any country in the EU.
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Yeah Straw what do you really do for a living? You make fun of someone with a part time job in this economy calling it "bad planning". How fucking clueless are you?! I guess all the millions out of work is because of their "bad planning"? Never mind that a lot of them busted their asses but their companies went under or work was insufficient. You are in denial you don't know what's going on around you.
I didn't really make fun of him for having a part time job. I chided him for having 2 degrees (I thought he had 2 when I wrote the post) and not having a job but you're right that I shouldn't have made an issue of that either. I assume he's trying his best and plenty of people are out of work. Tony is lucky he has insurance because I know in the past he didn't and the irony is that he's exactly the type of person who will benefit from this bill.
I have a few friends who were doing better than me that are now completely broke (i.e. no home, car repossesed, sleeping on friends couches, etc.. and of course no health insurance). I've been self employed pretty much my entire life and I've had periods where I made great money and periods that were no so good but when times were good I never went out and bought the Porsche or BMW (like my friend who is now broke) and always lived below my means and saved money. While many of my friends are broke, or struggling under a mountain of debt I've managed to pay my bills, maintain my savings/investments etc..
I shouldn't have teased Tony about his work situation but I know many people like him who actually understand the value of having an affordable health insurance option
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LOL im a consultant as well straw ;D ;) LMFAOROTFL hahahaha
don't you get paid a salary (or hourly wage) to perform a specific task?
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I didn't really make fun of him for having a part time job. I chided him for having 2 degrees (I thought he had 2 when I wrote the post) and not having a job but you're right that I shouldn't have made an issue of that either. I assume he's trying his best and plenty of people are out of work. Tony is lucky he has insurance because I know in the past he didn't and the irony is that he's exactly the type of person who will benefit from this bill.
I have a few friends who were doing better than me that are now completely broke (i.e. no home, car repossesed, sleeping on friends couches, etc.. and of course no health insurance). I've been self employed pretty much my entire life and I've had periods where I made great money and periods that were no so good but when times were good I never went out and bought the Porsche or BMW (like my friend who is now broke) and always lived below my means and saved money. While many of my friends are broke, or struggling under a mountain of debt I've managed to pay my bills, maintain my savings/investments etc..
I shouldn't have teased Tony about his work situation but I know many people like him who actually understand the value of having an affordable health insurance option
It's cool. You sound like the typical ultra-liberal.
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It's cool. You sound like the typical ultra-liberal.
I'm actually pretty conservative.
we wouldn't even need this f'ng bill if we just regulated the industry to begin with.
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successful people like u that r going to school and KNOW they have a bright future ahead dont want the governments help...they know they can make it on their own thankyou...
only the dumbfucks that r too stupid to make enough $ to afford insurance need a handout from the govt :-\
yanno whats gonna happen...the great doctors in this country r gonna go elsewhere to make $ and we r gonna be left with the C students of medschool...
on the bright side...you and i will be able to travel to get the best healthcare while these people will have to be content with the scraps the govt throws at them
agreed
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Props to you for going to school tony. Anytime someone starts talking down to you and claiming they make more money than you, when they've never even met you and really know nothing about you, you know that person is (1) insecure, (2) probably lying, and (3) unable to address the actual subject at hand.
thanks beach
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Props to tony for going back to school. Wise man say, you work when the economy is good, and you go to school when the economy is bad.
it takes a lot of courage and humility to do this (go back to humbling work even though you have the BS degree), i've done it. best move of my life.
thanks 240 and yes it is humbling but I think a good move in the long run as well.
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don't you get paid a salary (or hourly wage) to perform a specific task?
no salary, hourly wage plus commision plus bonus based on how the office does as whole at the end of the season.
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no salary, hourly wage plus commision plus bonus based on how the office does as whole at the end of the season.
I work on deals for weeks/months and sometime never make a dime
Sometimes things fall in my lap and everything fits together and I made a nice rip for very little work (though I'm basically getting paid for expertise and knowing what to do)
BTW - if you're doing tax stuff already have you considered working for the IRS? Supposedly they have to hire 17,000 more people (over the next 10 years).
333 brought that up in an earlier post and that number has been thrown around by Republicans but I can't find the details (i.e are they part time, full time, how many are being added due to replacing retirees, etc..).
Aparently the IRS has quite a few people who are approaching retirement age in the next 10 years.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/newsroom/wot_pub_4783.pdf
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I work on deals for weeks/months and sometime never make a dime
Sometimes things fall in my lap and everything fits together and I made a nice rip for very little work (though I'm basically getting paid for expertise and knowing what to do)
BTW - if you're doing tax stuff already have you considered working for the IRS? Supposedly they have to hire 17,000 more people (over the next 10 years).
333 brought that up in an earlier post and that number has been thrown around by Republicans but I can't find the details (i.e are they part time, full time, how many are being added due to replacing retirees, etc..).
Aparently the IRS has quite a few people who are approaching retirement age in the next 10 years.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/newsroom/wot_pub_4783.pdf
I work on returns and ammendments as well for weeks at a time... ;) so can I call myself a consultant as well? what is your area of expertise?
Im not really considering work for the IRS but I would say Im definitely not ruling it out. Ive heard different numbers 16000 as well I really dont know much about the details of the jobs pay, workload, specialty etc...Ive been told by some ppl that working for independent accounting firms that do internal audits/tax to make sure they are in accordance with SOX is a good job and a good place to start a career.
I would say that on a side not did you know if you call the IRS with a tax question their respondents are told is more important to be nice than right...also if they tell you to do something and you do it on your taxes but their wrong you still get hammered...
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I'm actually pretty conservative.
we wouldn't even need this f'ng bill if we just regulated the industry to begin with.
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Regulation always drive down costs, rrrriiiiggggggghhhhttttt .
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I work on returns and ammendments as well for weeks at a time... ;) so can I call myself a consultant as well? what is your area of expertise?
Im not really considering work for the IRS but I would say Im definitely not ruling it out. Ive heard different numbers 16000 as well I really dont know much about the details of the jobs pay, workload, specialty etc...Ive been told by some ppl that working for independent accounting firms that do internal audits/tax to make sure they are in accordance with SOX is a good job and a good place to start a career.
I would say that on a side not did you know if you call the IRS with a tax question their respondents are told is more important to be nice than right...also if they tell you to do something and you do it on your taxes but their wrong you still get hammered...
I've heard many horrible stories about the IRS and that's probably one of the reason why I never try to pull any shit on my returns.
It's just not worth the potential hassles/costs etc... even if you're right
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Regulation always drive down costs, rrrriiiiggggggghhhhttttt .
I didn't say that did I?
Costs are only one issue
Look - We own this country and we get to establish some basic rules on how businesses are allowed to operate.
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I work on deals for weeks/months and sometime never make a dime
and u want other people to cover your medical insurance for those times eh
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'thanks 240 and yes it is humbling but I think a good move in the long run as well.'
I had a teaching degree and a computer networking AA degree, along with certifications, and I was pushing carts and landscaping when I couldn't work entry level computer work. Sucked. Was so embarassing. But it was so so worth it.
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and u want other people to cover your medical insurance for those times eh
when did I say that
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I'm actually pretty conservative.
:P ::)
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Aparently the IRS has quite a few people who are approaching retirement age in the next 10 years.
This is very true with the DOD also. Lot's and lot's and lot's of old people nearing retirment age. It's truly staggering some of the estimates we hear about the turnover expected in the next 5-10 years. And being down in Houston, I'm sure you've got a lot of DOD positions you can compete for.
If you want some help, send me a pm, Tony.
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no incidents. maybe a few idiots making a scene, etc. But they'll move onto the next issue. it's a war against obama, and he won this battle.
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'thanks 240 and yes it is humbling but I think a good move in the long run as well.'
I had a teaching degree and a computer networking AA degree, along with certifications, and I was pushing carts and landscaping when I couldn't work entry level computer work. Sucked. Was so embarassing. But it was so so worth it.
it is embarrasing but when you look at it as doing what you have to do its bearable, its more embarrassing to me to take a hand out from ppl. There is this chick that works at my gym at the front desk and we talk from time to time she is divorced with a child and works 3 jobs in order to make ends meet and provide for her child.
and while I know she isnt proud of her situation I told her that she should be b/c not many ppl would do what they need to the way she is to take care of her family. No shame in being an honest hard working individual no matter what your occupation.
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it is embarrasing but when you look at it as doing what you have to do its bearable, its more embarrassing to me to take a hand out from ppl. There is this chick that works at my gym at the front desk and we talk from time to time she is divorced with a child and works 3 jobs in order to make ends meet and provide for her child.
and while I know she isnt proud of her situation I told her that she should be b/c not many ppl would do what they need to the way she is to take care of her family. No shame in being an honest hard working individual no matter what your occupation.
True..