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The following is an excerpt from the latest online blog of WWE Hall Of Famer Jim Ross, updating his status with WWE and his future plans:
Credit: JrsBarBQ.com
There is rampant speculation on the internet about my future.
This is understandable as I've talked a great deal about it here on my blogs.
Plus, it's provided various wrestling sites, etc with some nice cannon fodder over the past few weeks.
This matter is much more simple than many perceive.
My WWE 'talent contract' has ended after a 17+ year run with the company.
However, I am still a WWE employee handling the same talent relations functions that I have executed for the company for the past few years including since moving to Oklahoma.
I simply do not have a 'talent contract' as WWE has no plans to utilize me as an on air talent at this time.
The WWE engaged in talks with me on Thursday of this week to discuss a new job description that would include what I am now doing along with other talent relations oriented matters.
I am considering this offer and I trust that a decision will be made soon regarding this opportunity.
In the meantime, I am still interested in a variety of projects and opportunities.
While some may feel that it is in their best interest that I not remain in broadcasting, I do not share in that belief at this time.
Somewhat like the recently estranged Halle Berry, I don't think that I will be lacking for 'suitors,' so to speak, if broadcastings the road that I decide to travel.
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Discuss:
Facts:
JR knows all kinds of influental people in the wrestling business
JR has made his money and then some
JR doesn't need WWE or TNA for that matter
JR has many other business ventures that he is involved in that don't require travel
JR holds all the cards, bottom line
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I suspect that Ross will make a decision based on personal happiness.
He no longer has to worry about career status or making the most money.
As per the last line in your above post, J.R. is in a most fortunate position.
He strikes me as a decent human being who's worked extremely hard & eaten a lot of shit to achieve the success he has.
Forget Dusty; JIM ROSS is the REAL "American Dream."
I sincerely hope Ross spends his remaining years doing AND ENJOYING them however he pleases.
He deserves it!
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I suspect that Ross will make a decision based on personal happiness.
He no longer has to worry about career status or making the most money.
As per the last line in your above post, J.R. is in a most fortunate position.
He strikes me as a decent human being who's worked extremely hard & eaten a lot of shit to achieve the success he has.
Forget Dusty; JIM ROSS is the REAL "American Dream."
I sincerely hope Ross spends his remaining years doing AND ENJOYING them however he pleases.
He deserves it!
He would definately be an asset wherever he goes. People forget, he's been around for years.
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I don't think he'll go to TNA. Regardless of how he's been treated at times with WWE, I think he's got a lot of loyalty to the company, and wouldn't want to go and work for an unproven company like TNA. He'd be more likely to switch sports and start commentating on football somewhere.
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I don't think he'll go to TNA. Regardless of how he's been treated at times with WWE, I think he's got a lot of loyalty to the company, and wouldn't want to go and work for an unproven company like TNA. He'd be more likely to switch sports and start commentating on football somewhere.
That's another possibility. He was a commentator for the Atlanta Falcons a few years ago. But don't think for one minute that he wouldn't go to TNA. If the price is right and the schedule is light. He's at a stage now in his life where he has made a good name for himself and he doesn't need anyone. JR is smart because whoever wants him will start a bidding war.
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As a business man, JR gets an A+.
I know I'm going to get blasted for saying this, but oh well. i have never been a fan of JR as a play by play guy. I was an NWA fan when they brought him over from the UWF back in the day. He was half-decent at that point, but his work in WWE has always made me want to choke somebody.....whole career of "Gooooood laaaaards !!!!!!" And trying to sneak in psuedo-curse words like an 8yr old. No thanks.
Of course I was raised on Gordon Solie. And JR couldn't carry Gordon's jock...nobody can. 8)
Part of the issue is just the whole evolution of the product, I know, but back in the day Solie and Bob Caudle didn't actually know what was going to happen on set.....the idea was to capture their reaction to what was happening in real time. Certainly gave the shows a more "real" feel.
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Ha!
Nobody's gonna blast you - that's just your opinion, and it's very astute.
Even more interesting is that so many people compare Ross to Solie.
It is unfair to make a direct comparison between the two.
As you pointed out, they are from two totally different generations - Solie didn't wear a headset to be fed lines from the production area, nor did they work from scripts written by former soap opera writers.
However, when I look at the limited pool of current talent, I would certainly take JR over many of today's contemporaries.
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Ha!
Nobody's gonna blast you - that's just your opinion, and it's very astute.
Even more interesting is that so many people compare Ross to Solie.
It is unfair to make a direct comparison between the two.
As you pointed out, they are from two totally different generations - Solie didn't wear a headset to be fed lines from the production area, nor did they work from scripts written by former soap opera writers.
However, when I look at the limited pool of current talent, I would certainly take JR over many of today's contemporaries.
modern day pro wrestling pales in comparison due to these points brought up here,scripted,in the know as it happens,thats what made the older announcers so great they suspended the imagination to make it seem real and realistic good vs bad,character buildup.
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Ha!
Nobody's gonna blast you - that's just your opinion, and it's very astute.
Even more interesting is that so many people compare Ross to Solie.
It is unfair to make a direct comparison between the two.
As you pointed out, they are from two totally different generations - Solie didn't wear a headset to be fed lines from the production area, nor did they work from scripts written by former soap opera writers.
However, when I look at the limited pool of current talent, I would certainly take JR over many of today's contemporaries.
Also what everyone seems to forget is that JR is not just soley a commentator. He was the VP of talent at one point and a talent scout for Vince McMahon. Who do you think found Cena & Orton for example? He is a well rounded person to have backstage on any wrestling program.
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Also what everyone seems to forget is that JR is not just soley a commentator. He was the VP of talent at one point and a talent scout for Vince McMahon. Who do you think found Cena & Orton for example? He is a well rounded person to have backstage on any wrestling program.
I was speaking strictly about his mic work. Behind the scenes he is certainly an asset, although I don't think I would give him credit for "discovering" Randy Orton.
As Monty pointed out, the different generations thing is big. I cringe thinking about if poor Gordon had to describe some of that over the top crap that Undertaker and Kane did......hahahahaha "Austin has been crucified.....and brother, did he catch him with that one!" In Gordon's trademark gravely voice.....hahaha
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"Austin has been crucified.....and brother, did he catch him with that one!"
ROFLMFAO!!!
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Credit: wrestlezone.com
The following are some highlights from the latest online Q&A session from WWE Hall Of Fame announcer Jim Ross:
When asked for yet another update on his WWE announcing situation, JR stated, "WWE simply wants to go in a different direction on air which is their call entirely.
I don't agree with it but that opinion, too, is a non issue."
JR continued, "Obviously, I feel that my work will compare favorably to anyone broadcasting pro wrestling today.
Time will tell as to how every thing works out but I stress to all that I don't have to stay in pro wrestling to continue broadcasting.
At the end of the day it's all about being happy and enjoying what I do for a living. I'm at the point in my life where that requirement is attainable."
When asked about TNA moving Impact from head-to-head with WWE RAW on Monday back to their regular Thursday timeslot, JR said, "Obviously Monday mights were not going to work for TNA and let's hope that Thursday nights help them build their brand."
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Credit: wrestlezone.com
The following are some highlights from the latest online Q&A session from WWE Hall Of Fame announcer Jim Ross:
When asked for yet another update on his WWE announcing situation, JR stated, "WWE simply wants to go in a different direction on air which is their call entirely.
I don't agree with it but that opinion, too, is a non issue."
JR continued, "Obviously, I feel that my work will compare favorably to anyone broadcasting pro wrestling today.
Time will tell as to how every thing works out but I stress to all that I don't have to stay in pro wrestling to continue broadcasting.
At the end of the day it's all about being happy and enjoying what I do for a living. I'm at the point in my life where that requirement is attainable."
When asked about TNA moving Impact from head-to-head with WWE RAW on Monday back to their regular Thursday timeslot, JR said, "Obviously Monday mights were not going to work for TNA and let's hope that Thursday nights help them build their brand."
And as of right now Shelton Benjimen & Charlie Haas are in talks with TNA and close to inking a deal once their WWE 90 no-compete claus is up. There are talks of them reforming a faction with Kurt Angle much like the team Angle of the WWE.
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And as of right now Shelton Benjimen & Charlie Haas are in talks with TNA and close to inking a deal once their WWE 90 no-compete claus is up. There are talks of them reforming a faction with Kurt Angle much like the team Angle of the WWE.
That would be solid. Angle could handle their mic work and get them over, no problem. And all 3 can wrestle their tales off.
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That would be solid. Angle could handle their mic work and get them over, no problem. And all 3 can wrestle their tales off.
I totally agree with you there.
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The following was the latest update by Jim Ross on his official J.R.'s BBQ website:
On whether he was upset over Ric Flair wrestling again: "No...I do not have an issue with Ric Flair wrestling but I do think that Ric should be wrestling perhaps 2-3 times per year and likely never on free TV. That's just my opinion. Flair adds much more to any TV show when he is talking or at ringside. I do not have an issue with Ric performing after his ballyhooed retirement from WWE at WM24. Pro wrestling retirements rarely last...just do the math...and people need to earn a living"
On whether he thinks the PG rating is here to stay: "Yes...I do believe that WWE will be PG rated for the long haul. It is much more advertiser and family friendly which simply makes common and business sense. If fans complain about creative it rarely has any thing to do with the PG rating or whatever as it usually pertains to the creative itself being lame or poorly executed. Bad humor is bad humor. Bad acting is bad acting and matches that make no logical sense happening still won't make any sense no matter the TV rating."
On him predicting TNA would do well on Monday nights: "O.K....a fan pointed out that he predicted that TNA would not last on Monday night and that I thought that they had a fighting chance. I was assuming that TNA would produce a more compelling, TV product too so I assume I was wrong on two fronts. Shame on me. I remain for all wrestling companies on TV, WWE, TNA, and ROH to do well. Again, the putting someone out of business mantra is antiquated and essentially stupid."
On fans emailing WWE and protesting on his behalf: "I saw on line where some fans want to hit WWE with E-mails on my behalf. I implore fans to please NOT do such as it just becomes a nuisance and it will do no good whatsoever. I do not endorse such a protest and I have to say that I am happy, healthy, and doing great. I have nothing to bitch and moan about. My mindset to continue broadcasting hasn't changed but time will tell if that phase of my life is truly done or not. I always wanted to go out on my terms if possible and not have someone dictate when I was done. Perhaps that can still happen at a different place and in a another genre."
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From Jim Ross' official J.R.'s BBQ website:
"Got an advance copy of Mick Foley's newest book, release date TBD, entitled 'Countdown to Lockdown' and my friend Mick has penned another hit. I did not have the highest of expectations for this book considering what I perceived it to be about based on the title. I was wrong.
Mick covers a variety of wrestling topics including his days as a WWE broadcaster including his honest and candid thoughts on the experience. Mick also shares more than one compelling conversation that he had with Vince McMahon during those days. 'Mrs. Foley's Baby Boy' is an amazingly gifted writer and is always brutally honest with his innermost feelings and opinions on a variety of topics."
"Machida vs. Rua is the main event in a rematch of a fight that many thought Rua won but the judges felt other wise. Two things, bad outcomes can occur when fights go to the judges cards and even though I hope that Rua gets his just due I think that Machida will be very motivated to dispel the last match controversy and win conclusively. This one is hard to call but that's what makes in ring products of all types interesting. "
"No....I don't think that Hulk Hogan is a 'traitor' to WWE and to Vince McMahon because Hogan is working in TNA. Yes, McMahon did a great deal for Hogan back in the day but that was a reciprocal deal as Hulk certainly carried his share of the water in that relationship as well. Hogan is simply earning a living and it's as simple as that to me. "
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From Jim Ross' official J.R.'s BBQ website:
"Got an advance copy of Mick Foley's newest book, release date TBD, entitled 'Countdown to Lockdown' and my friend Mick has penned another hit. I did not have the highest of expectations for this book considering what I perceived it to be about based on the title. I was wrong.
Mick covers a variety of wrestling topics including his days as a WWE broadcaster including his honest and candid thoughts on the experience. Mick also shares more than one compelling conversation that he had with Vince McMahon during those days. 'Mrs. Foley's Baby Boy' is an amazingly gifted writer and is always brutally honest with his innermost feelings and opinions on a variety of topics."
"Machida vs. Rua is the main event in a rematch of a fight that many thought Rua won but the judges felt other wise. Two things, bad outcomes can occur when fights go to the judges cards and even though I hope that Rua gets his just due I think that Machida will be very motivated to dispel the last match controversy and win conclusively. This one is hard to call but that's what makes in ring products of all types interesting. "
"No....I don't think that Hulk Hogan is a 'traitor' to WWE and to Vince McMahon because Hogan is working in TNA. Yes, McMahon did a great deal for Hogan back in the day but that was a reciprocal deal as Hulk certainly carried his share of the water in that relationship as well. Hogan is simply earning a living and it's as simple as that to me. "
Quoted for the truth.
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Absolutely.
I’ve always thought it kind of foolish to bicker about who did more for pro-wrestling during that time - Vince or Hulk.
Oddly enough, it seems to be Piper that yells the loudest.
In his mind, he was - at the very least - JUST AS responsible for drawing the War to Settle the Score, WM, etc.
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Absolutely.
I’ve always thought it kind of foolish to bicker about who did more for pro-wrestling during that time - Vince or Hulk.
Oddly enough, it seems to be Piper that yells the loudest.
In his mind, he was - at the very least - JUST AS responsible for drawing the War to Settle the Score, WM, etc.
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I respect Piper, but he is a bit delusional on his place in pro wrestling history.
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Absolutely.
I’ve always thought it kind of foolish to bicker about who did more for pro-wrestling during that time - Vince or Hulk.
Oddly enough, it seems to be Piper that yells the loudest.
In his mind, he was - at the very least - JUST AS responsible for drawing the War to Settle the Score, WM, etc.
:)
Piper was just a player in the game called Wrestlemania. Hogan was the main draw as he always was.
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Facts:
JR knows all kinds of influental people in the wrestling business
JR has made his money and then some
JR doesn't need WWE or TNA for that matter
JR has many other business ventures that he is involved in that don't require travel
JR holds all the cards, bottom line
QFT
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Jim Ross has posted the following over at JRsBarBQ.com, noting that he will be closing his BBQ restaurant in Norman, OK:
"At the end of the day, our business plan could not handle the shift in the economy or the rising overhead that we encountered.
We make no excuses...In the upcoming weeks, my professional schedule is likely to change significantly.
I've realized that there is only so much that I can pile on my plate so perhaps this unfortunate turn of events is a blessing in disguise."
JR also noted that he intends to keep his online store open and continue selling his merchandise via the internet.
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credit: JRsBarBQ.com:
"I have worked out what we believe to be a win/win, employee agreement with WWE and will remain with the company that I have been with essentially since 1993 when I debuted at Wrestlemania 9 (To celebrate this occasion, as I'm writing this I'm wearing a toga.)
Going forward, I will be focusing on a variety of talent relations matters, essentially as a consultant, of which will not require weekly travel. I will be visiting FCW in Tampa on a regular basis to observe the development of the young men and women who, I hope, all want to headline Wrestlemania some day. This area of the company has always been of particular interest to me including when we opened developmental areas years ago in Louisville, Cincinnati, Memphis, and Southern California. Many of the WWE's biggest stars of this generation came from those areas."
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Jim Ross has posted a new Q&A over at JRsBarBQ.com responding to fans who are upset that he did not sign with TNA. Ross wrote, "I feel I made the right decision for all involved at this point in time. I sincerely hope TNA survives and thrives but their announcing is the least of the issues that need addressing in my opinion. I have many,many friends who work in TNA and I am pulling for them without question. Competition is good for all businesses and I will continue to follow them just as I always have."
"Too many assumptions have been made about any talks I had with TNA. I did not 'sell out' but merely made the best business decision that I could make at this time. I don't and will not live my life on how this person 'treated me' or my personal feelings toward anyone in the business. This is a business deal, plain and simple. People buy into the internet BS and consider it Gospel. I'm happy with the decision I made which should be good enough for those outside looking in or so I feel."
credit: wrestlezone.com
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Mike Mooneyham of The Charleston Post Courier recently interviewed Jim Ross.
The following in an excerpt from the interview:
The article notes that Jim Ross will be inducting Danny Hodge into The Hall of Heroes NWA Legends Wrestling Fanfest in North Carolina on August 5th-8th.
Jim Ross said during the interview, "My schedule over the years, when I was an administrator and then worked as an on-air talent along with booking live-event cards, was literally a seven-day rotation."
"You just never got off the treadmill. Outside the WWE umbrella, I’ve probably only done a handful [of convention appearances], and all of those were with Lawler. That’s pretty much it."
"That element (inducting Hodge) really put it over the top for me,” says Ross. “Danny Hodge is just an amazingly gifted athlete. I truly believe that he is the greatest wrestler alive.”
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Former WWE and WCW star Bill Goldberg posted the following on his Twitter page:
"So I hear the WWE made an example out of JR because he was on camera being interviewed at Brock's UFC event. Things never change do they. Give'm hell JR!! Sounds like something they would do. Just speaking out for my buddy JR."
Goldberg then added,
"Let's just say I don't know all the facts about JR's situation and the WWE....hell, I don't really know anything about it. So don't mind me.."
If true, this seems quite petty of Vince - especially directed towards someone like Ross, who's done so much in and for the industry and even Vince's own company!
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Former WWE and WCW star Bill Goldberg posted the following on his Twitter page:
"So I hear the WWE made an example out of JR because he was on camera being interviewed at Brock's UFC event. Things never change do they. Give'm hell JR!! Sounds like something they would do. Just speaking out for my buddy JR."
Goldberg then added,
"Let's just say I don't know all the facts about JR's situation and the WWE....hell, I don't really know anything about it. So don't mind me.."
If true, this seems quite petty of Vince - especially directed towards someone like Ross, who's done so much in and for the industry and even Vince's own company!
It's well known that Vince has bitterness to anyone who left his promotion to go elsewhere. He is very jealous. He will do anything to try to bury any wrestler/commentator/backstage personnel that has left his company. Most recent being the "banning" of Ric Flair's chop. Ludacris.
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Jim Ross posted a new blog over at JRsBarBQ.com. Below are some highlights:
"We're getting lots of questions on the revisited, ECW TV storyline being used by TNA. For the record, I hope that all wrestling organizations do well as the individuals who comprise the various company's rosters are largely passionate fans living out their dreams. I'm not a 'dream squasher.' Do I think that this matter will be successful? I don't know. It might be o.k. for a one off sort of deal for a company that needs a 'hit.' Time will answer the 'will it be successful question' which is somewhere subjective in itself as what is the true definition of 'success' in wrestling? It varies by company, that's for sure."
"Paul Heyman will not be a part of this presentation which does it no favors. Heyman was the strategic mastermind behind the original ECW that grew to have a passionate, cult following and lasted much longer than many 'experts' predicted when ECW started up primarily due to Heyman's leadership and creative vision along with a locker room full of passionate athletes who were in their prime and loved kicking ass."
"No, Joey Styles has no interest in broadcasting again in WWE on a full time basis, or so he has said to many, and has expressed his happiness in working to build WWE.com to an even bigger brand. Joey and I hope to broadcast one match together some day in the future for WWEClassics.com or WWE 24/7 On Demand."
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Jim Ross' "Ross Report" has returned to the official WWE website.
JR also blogged about recent Bobby Heenan & Randy Savage news on his own website.
source: JRsBarBQ.com
"The news of Bobby Heenan falling, apparently twice, and breaking his shoulder, pelvis, and hip are sobering. I think the world of 'The Brain' who will undergo shoulder surgery on August 4 and consider him a dear friend. When I first went to WWE in 1993 from the 'enemy' (WCW) Bobby and Gorilla Monsoon were the first two people who really took me in and made me feel welcomed in a new environment. They were in the minority but they had enough clout that it helped others come around to simply giving allowing themselves to get to know me and then make a decision based on fact not who my previous employer was."
"I do not know any more than most fans about WWE's updated relationship with Randy Savage or what the future holds for WWE/Savage, if any thing. It seems that a marketing arrangement has or is being established and one could always speculate that could eventually morph into more. Yes, Randy Savage is deserving of the WWE HOF and perhaps one day he will be inducted which would be a great moment for his many, loyal fans. Until then, let's just sit back, be patient and wait."
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Jim Ross has posted the following update on his Twitter account:
"20% blockage in 3 spots. No surgery required. Sore where doctor explored my heart via femoral artery. Hope to get home tonight. Caught a break. :)"
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Jim Ross has posted the following update on his Twitter account:
"20% blockage in 3 spots. No surgery required. Sore where doctor explored my heart via femoral artery. Hope to get home tonight. Caught a break. :)"
Man, I hope its nothing more. Problems with the ticker are no joke.
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source: JRsBarBQ.com
"Got a great call earlier this week from Shawn Michaels and we spent some time catching up on a variety of things. HBK is happy, healthy and not missing the wrestling business at this time. Shawn is busy working on a hunting show for the Outdoor Life Network, I think, that will likely begin airing next year. We discussed some upcoming hunts and yours truly night actually go on one of these taped hunts somewhere down the road. I might be better suited to be the camp 'cook' as my hunting skills aren't at the level of say a Brock Lesnar, Steve Austin, or Dusty Rhodes. But the 'camp fire' talk would be entertaining."
"Speaking of Austin, some fans have emailed me and adamantly feel that the ideal match for the Undertaker to have at WM30 would be Austin vs. Taker. WM30?? Sounds provocative on paper but it's not going to happen. I'm much more interested in who Taker is going to face at WM27 which appears to be a wide open matter. Steve will generally always say the old wrestler cliché of 'Never say never' when asked about another match but no one would be more shocked than me to ever see Austin don his tights again."
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source: JRsBarBQ.com
"Many are asking what the future holds for Kevin Nash. I have no idea and that's a question for Kevin but what ever it is won't include him being in any financial dilemmas or rehabs. Kevin was always a bright guy and an athlete who I enjoyed helping get noticed when we did our 'Wrestling with Jim Ross' radio show on AM750 WSB in Atlanta back in the early 90's. BTW Kevin was on the same high school all state basketball team in Michigan with Ervin 'Magic' Johnson. Could Nash finish up his wrestling career in WWE? Sounds possible to me but I'm not in that loop."
"The King missed a rare, Monday night Raw this week from Manchester, England with a severe infection that came as a result of a knee injury. Jerry is getting a daily dose of antibiotics via an IV and hopes to be feeling better soon. He told me Monday that his knee felt better and that an expert physician in infections was addressing the King's condition. The King doesn't have staph infection as I understand it which is good news. Jerry is very resilient and I'm relatively confident that he will be back on the air when Raw does their three hour, Old School broadcast."
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source: JRsBarBQ.com
"Many are asking what the future holds for Kevin Nash. I have no idea and that's a question for Kevin but what ever it is won't include him being in any financial dilemmas or rehabs. Kevin was always a bright guy and an athlete who I enjoyed helping get noticed when we did our 'Wrestling with Jim Ross' radio show on AM750 WSB in Atlanta back in the early 90's. BTW Kevin was on the same high school all state basketball team in Michigan with Ervin 'Magic' Johnson. Could Nash finish up his wrestling career in WWE? Sounds possible to me but I'm not in that loop."
"The King missed a rare, Monday night Raw this week from Manchester, England with a severe infection that came as a result of a knee injury. Jerry is getting a daily dose of antibiotics via an IV and hopes to be feeling better soon. He told me Monday that his knee felt better and that an expert physician in infections was addressing the King's condition. The King doesn't have staph infection as I understand it which is good news. Jerry is very resilient and I'm relatively confident that he will be back on the air when Raw does their three hour, Old School broadcast."
Easy answer. Retirement. Its not like he needs the cash. The guy was one of the businesses biggest earners.
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Easy answer. Retirement. Its not like he needs the cash. The guy was one of the businesses biggest beneficiaries of right place/right time, knew what friends to keep to make money earners.
fixed bro..... ;D
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fixed bro..... ;D
Kevin Nash & Scott Hall's WCW deal....
3 years 1996-1999 both earned 1.1 mil, 1.6mil & 1.8mil for each year respectively.
Both contracts got renued for another three years for the same amount for 2000-2003. When WCW closed down, Time Warner still had to pay out all their contracts. Despite what people may think or comment on, Hall & Nash made a killing in terms of money.
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Kevin Nash & Scott Hall's WCW deal....
3 years 1996-1999 both earned 1.1 mil, 1.6mil & 1.8mil for each year respectively.
Both contracts got renued for another three years for the same amount for 2000-2003. When WCW closed down, Time Warner still had to pay out all their contracts. Despite what people may think or comment on, Hall & Nash made a killing in terms of money.
Oh, they did, but as far as Nash goes, he didn't "earn" shit......the guy was just lucky enough to be along for the ride with Hall and then Hogan....on his own in the WWF without HBK he was just worthless....same when he was Oz......the guy is a smart business man, but nothing more.
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Oh, they did, but as far as Nash goes, he didn't "earn" shit......the guy was just lucky enough to be along for the ride with Hall and then Hogan....on his own in the WWF without HBK he was just worthless....same when he was Oz......the guy is a smart business man, but nothing more.
I hear ya. I still enjoyed him as one of the main staples of the NWO. He has always been in the right place at the right time.
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I hear ya. I still enjoyed him as one of the main staples of the NWO. He has always been in the right place at the right time.
that angle would have been sooooooo much better with Hall, Nash, Hogan and X-pac (as someone to get beaten up) and maybe a couple more, but thats it. They just went so overboard with it.
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that angle would have been sooooooo much better with Hall, Nash, Hogan and X-pac (as someone to get beaten up) and maybe a couple more, but thats it. They just went so overboard with it.
Agreed. I would have left it at Hogan, Hall & Nash and thats it. Not the 30 plus member disater it became to be with half NWO Wolfpac / Half Black & White.
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Source: F4WOnline.com
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- Not surprisingly, everybody in World Wrestling Entertainment wants Jim Ross to return, however the final decision obviously lies with Vince McMahon.
- Many wrestlers had a great time during last night’s show, especially those that grew up around the business. Many of the legends were also excited to meet third generation stars aswell, especially Michael McGillicutty (Joe Hennig) since everybody was very fond of his father, and it also gave them a chance to see people like Tamina and Husky who they saw growing up and are now performing. Not surprisingly, Nexus were said to be watching Piper’s promo intently and the biggest pop backstage came when Mae Young called Laycool sluts and bitches, even getting a laugh from Vince McMahon
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I wonder what J.R. truly wants to do.
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He sounded great on Monday, the break did wonders. He was really sounding worn out the last few months on SD. If he's happy with his sauce. restaraunt, and whatever , great for him. It would be great if he'd at least work Wrestlemania.
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If Ross wants to return, I suspect he will in at least some capacity.
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He sounded great on Monday, the break did wonders. He was really sounding worn out the last few months on SD. If he's happy with his sauce. restaraunt, and whatever , great for him. It would be great if he'd at least work Wrestlemania.
He wasn't happy about being sent to smackdown in the draft period. He even admitted it. He only went because it was "for the greater good" for the company to promote smackdown. I hope he comes back full time on Raw.
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Jim Ross has posted a new blog over at JRsBarBQ.com detailing this past Monday's special edition RAW:
"Approximately 15-20 minutes prior to the Legends being brought back out and being introduced to the live audience, I would suggest that most of the Legends were taking a much needed siesta in the Legend's holding area which was stocked with comfortable couches and chairs and was perfect for napping. I walked by prior to going out to call my match and got a chuckle when peaking into the special area and seeing so many famous wrestling folks sound asleep. Hell, it was past many of their bedtimes."
"Lots of fans have sent me emails and Tweets, at JRsBBQ, regarding Michael Cole's performance during the Swagger-Bryan bout and be assured that Michael was simply doing his job and embellishing upon his new, antagonist persona. There are no issues here I can assure you. If I helped folks dislike Cole's new persona then I accomplished one objective it would seem."
"Roddy Piper arguably did more in his brief albeit impactful time on Raw to promote the Survivor Series main event of Orton vs. Barrett with Cena as the special referee than anyone has done on Raw or elsewhere since the storyline began. Awesome job by Piper who can still be 'money.' Roddy looked better than I have seen him in years and has made some important, lifestyle changes that were evident when speaking with him and subsequently watching him perform. In my opinion, Roddy Piper stole the show Monday at Raw."
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"And I quote!"
Tell me that isn't flat out annoying....
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It gets heat, but it's also getting "X-Pac" type heat already and will likely snowball in that respect.
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JR on his future in announcing, possibly even for the UFC:
"I don't think that Monday night was my official 'send off ' from WWE announcing or at least no one told me such. After doing a piece of the Celtics radio broadcast with pal Sean Grande a couple of weeks ago in OKC and with the OU Football and Basketball job coming open next year, I would like to think that I will be doing some broadcasting work before I finally hang it up which will be years from now.
"The UFC upper management people know that I have an interest in their product and I think that my style would fit what they do quite well especially when they begin expanding their roster of broadcasters. Who knows, WWE might want me to do something on an occasional basis but I must point out that there is absolutely no plans to that affect at this time."
credit: JRsBarBQ.com
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Absolute latest on Jim Ross:
It’s said to be no secret that Jim Ross wants to return to the announce booth. His appearance on RAW two weeks ago resulted in overwhelming sentiment that he should return, but his fate lies in the hands of Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn, who prefer youth—though Jerry Lawler is three years older than Ross.
Furthermore, Lawler and Cole have pushed for Ross to replace Matt Striker as the third man for pay-per-view broadcasts, whom they both dislike. McMahon, however, feels the pay-per-view broadcast team should be limited to those who work television. Vince is keen on these younger guys because he knows he doesn't have to pay them nearly what Ross or Lawler make but lets not forget, Ross & Lawler know what they're doing and have great experience and chemistry.
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Jim Ross' latest blog at JRsBarBQ.com:
"While Snooki's in ring expertise may never be confused with many past or present WWE Divas, the value of having Snooki on the Wrestlemania card has already been established with the massive amount of main stream PR that the 'Jersey Shore' personality has garnered. I was amazed at how short Snooki was as she seemed to be cooperative and professional based on my limited observations of her."
"Will Kurt Angle ever return to WWE? How would I or any one other than Kurt and the WWE decision makers know the answer to this? However, I'd suggest that most former WWE talents who had the chance to come back to WWE and earn a good, steady living would all entertain that thought. Angle's greatest professional moments IMO were in WWE and him being able to finish in WWE might make for some compelling TV. Again, not my call."
"I choose not to respond in detail to recent TNA internal issues as I don't follow their product closely nor do I know the actual details of what may or may not have occurred over the past few days. However, I do still profess to the philosophy that if one can't solve a problem one must eliminate it."
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If JR is up for it, make him the RAW announcer and make Cole a manager. Booker and Matthews are fine on SD...Cole has gotten Swagger more heat in 2 weeks than he had in 2 years.
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If JR is up for it, make him the RAW announcer and make Cole a manager. Booker and Matthews are fine on SD...Cole has gotten Swagger more heat in 2 weeks than he had in 2 years.
I agree. I would put Cole with Miz and leave booker as a color commentator on Smackdown and have Nash as a road agent backstage.
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As a business man, JR gets an A+.
I know I'm going to get blasted for saying this, but oh well. i have never been a fan of JR as a play by play guy. I was an NWA fan when they brought him over from the UWF back in the day. He was half-decent at that point, but his work in WWE has always made me want to choke somebody.....whole career of "Gooooood laaaaards !!!!!!" And trying to sneak in psuedo-curse words like an 8yr old. No thanks.
Of course I was raised on Gordon Solie. And JR couldn't carry Gordon's jock...nobody can. 8)
Part of the issue is just the whole evolution of the product, I know, but back in the day Solie and Bob Caudle didn't actually know what was going to happen on set.....the idea was to capture their reaction to what was happening in real time. Certainly gave the shows a more "real" feel.
You won't get blasted by me. In fact, you were much kinder than I would have been. Of course, I suspect the same about you. ;D
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From Jim Ross's Twitter:
"@meesh282 There are no plans at this time for me to go back to weekly announcing. Things could always change."
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From Jim Ross's Twitter:
"@meesh282 There are no plans at this time for me to go back to weekly announcing. Things could always change."
It must be frustrating for Vince, grooming play-by-play guys for years, and yet JR continues to make the save. Of course, I don't think anyone will ever beat Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura, IMO.
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It must be frustrating for Vince, grooming play-by-play guys for years, and yet JR continues to make the save. Of course, I don't think anyone will ever beat Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura, IMO.
Some fans/historians try to compare Ross to Solie, but I don't like that.
Guys like Solie, Ross, Monsoon, Jesse, etc., were all good in their own individual ways.
You can compare their effectiveness in what they add to the product, but that falls under comparing quality; not style & character.
The Monsoon/Ventura team is probably one of my favorites because of the two styles, and also the way they meshed.
Gorilla & Heenan had great chemistry, too.
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Some fans/historians try to compare Ross to Solie, but I don't like that.
Guys like Solie, Ross, Monsoon, Jesse, etc., were all good in their own individual ways.
You can compare their effectiveness in what they add to the product, but that falls under comparing quality; not style & character.
The Monsoon/Ventura team is probably one of my favorites because of the two styles, and also the way they meshed.
Gorilla & Heenan had great chemistry, too.
Believe it or not, I enjoyed the McMahon - Ventura announce tandam. I lovedit when Jesse used to put Vince in his place. :D
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Believe it or not, I enjoyed the McMahon - Ventura announce tandam. I lovedit when Jesse used to put Vince in his place. :D
Yep.
And, Jesse probably enjoyed publicly talking that way to his real-life boss - even if much of the general public wasn't aware of that fact.
I think in the early 80's, most casual fans simply saw Vince as an announcer.
But, Vince was okay at the table when he had someone good to work with like Heenan or Jesse.
I never cared much for the Vince/Lawler team, though.
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Yep.
And, Jesse probably enjoyed publicly talking that way to his real-life boss - even if much of the general public wasn't aware of that fact.
I think in the early 80's, most casual fans simply saw Vince as an announcer.
But, Vince was okay at the table when he had someone good to work with like Heenan or Jesse.
I never cared much for the Vince/Lawler team, though.
When I was a kid growing up in the eighties, I thought Vince was just a commentator. ;D
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When I was a kid growing up in the eighties, I thought Vince was just a commentator. ;D
Oh, yeah: a lot of people did.
I didn't realize he "owned" the Fed until it came out in the steroid scandal in '92.
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Oh, yeah: a lot of people did.
I didn't realize he "owned" the Fed until it came out in the steroid scandal in '92.
Speaking of the scandal in '92, did you watch the WBF show he did when he started "testing" his bodybuilders? Mighty Mike Quinn came out with a gut, looking so smooth under the lights and he looked like a floppy mess. :)
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Speaking of the scandal in '92, did you watch the WBF show he did when he started "testing" his bodybuilders? Mighty Mike Quinn came out with a gut, looking so smooth under the lights and he looked like a floppy mess. :)
Yep.
MMI ran an interview they did with him a few years back and showed a pic of Mike onstage from that show.
Oddly enough, Strydom looked quite different! ::)
But, the most amazing part of that interview is that that Kennedy found the space to squeeze in that article between two Muscle-Tech 87-page "Special Ad-reports."
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Yep.
MMI ran an interview they did with him a few years back and showed a pic of Mike onstage from that show.
Oddly enough, Strydom looked quite different! ::)
But, the most amazing part of that interview is that that Kennedy found the space to squeeze in that article between two Muscle-Tech 87-page "Special Ad-reports."
From what I understood, Strydom was the WBF's posterboy. Many guys cheated on their urine tests but they utlimately used Quinn as their scapegoat. He really looked awful.
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Jim Ross has posted the following over at JRsBarBQ.com:
"I will be undergoing abdominal surgery this week. I am bothered by a traumatic incisional hernia that needs to be addressed. My surgeon is the same one who performed colon surgery, and no, not the beloved Dr. Heiney, a few years ago on me. He's a great doctor who actually was a former Oklahoma Sooner footballer back in his college days.
This issue evolved just over the past 3-4 months and I'm told that getting it repaired now would be timely and prevent other related health issues going forward."
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Also from JRsBarBQ.com:
"Great week of TV production this week in Stamford at WWE HQ. The nWo 15th Anniversary Legends Roundtable airs on WWE On Demand in July. Kevin Nash, Gene Okerlund and JJ Dillon were able to provide some great insight to the WCW/nWo days. @RealKevinNash is still in great shape and still has some fuel in the tank the the desire to use it. Kevin added a great deal to the panel on the nWo discussion. It's a program that could have multiple parts if WWE wants to revisit it at some point. "
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"What do I think of the recent Hulk-Warrior war of words? Nothing. It's none of my business and I'm not interested in following what appears to be a 'pissing contest.'"
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"Kevin said Scott Hall was doing "much, much better" as of recent days and that Scott was likely going to be the subject of a feature on ESPN. I was really happy to hear that Scott was getting healthier. I can attest to the fact that Scott Hall has one of the most creative minds in the business or at least he did when I was around him back in the day. Scott always possessed great wrestling instincts and had the ability to process in ring content and promo material as well as anyone."
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Also from his blog:
"Kevin Nash told us at the taping of the WWE Legends Roundtable last week that years ago when I mentioned on Raw one Monday night that I was going to bring back 'Diesel and Razor' next week, that WCW attorneys freaked out because Nash and Hall had only signed 'deal memos' and not their final contracts.
To expedite the final, final contract signing WCW, to make sure that 'Razor and Diesel' wouldn't appear on Monday Night Raw, apparently threw another $400K to each guy to get the deal done ASAP which happened in a sports bar inside the CNN Center. Then, TBS flew the two men home in a private jet. Yep...WCW legal beagles actually believed what 'Good Ol J.R.' said while in TV mode and they quickly spend another $800K of their company's money."
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Yep...WCW legal beagles actually believed what 'Good Ol J.R.' said while in TV mode and they quickly spend another $800K of their company's money."
Hard to believe that company went under.
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WATERLOO, Iowa -- One of the biggest names in professional wrestling will be recognized by the National Wrestling Hall of Fame Dan Gable Museum. Jim Ross, a ring announcer and an executive for World Wrestling Entertainment, will receive the Lou Thesz Award at the George Tragos/Lou Thesz Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame inductions on July 22-23.
The Lou Thesz Award is given to an individual in wrestling who has taken the skills of professional wrestling into the realm of public service.
The award is presented by the National Wrestling Hall of Fame Dan Gable Museum and Eblen Charities. Eblen Charities is a North Carolina based non-profit organization that assists children, adults, and families in times of need.
Hall of Famer Gerald Brisco will present Ross his award at an induction banquet on Saturday, July 23. The banquet will be held at the Five Sullivan Brothers Convention Center in Waterloo, Iowa.
Jim Ross carries the passion and dedication to make this profession the very best it can be,“ said Brisco. “I think Lou Thesz would be honored to know good old JR will be receiving this great award.”
Ross is one of the most recognized names in professional wrestling. He is best-known as a professional wrestling commentator and for his work with World Wrestling Entertainment. Ross has been heavily involved with scouting and talent development with the WWE.
Ross consistently works with several service organizations, including the Support Our Troops initiative, Circle of Champions, and Get R.E.A.L. (Respect, Education, Achievement, Leadership). He has also been involved with Meetings with Children with Life Threatening Illnesses.
“My boyhood hero was Lou Thesz,” said Jim Ross. “Getting the Lou Thesz Award is an overwhelming honor. I’m looking forward to being in Waterloo for this event.”
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Any three-man team is all about timing and chemistry,” WWE hall of famer Jim Ross said Wednesday in a telephone interview with Alex Marvez. “All the guys have to have their egos in check. They have to share the load and the storytelling. We’re starting to smooth things out a bit. Once everybody gets comfortable with whatever role they’re there to fulfill, it will really start to come together.”
He also said that he hid in the production truck and snuck in right before he was announced to keep his return secret.
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The following is a new tweet from the official Twitter page of Jim Ross:
"Bad day..got hit by a pickup..totaled my Escalade or so body shop thinks. Seat belt & airbag saved me.
And, later:
"Thanks to seat belt and airbags, I'm sore in places I didn't know I had, but [I'm] home. Escalade [is] totaled. hit [the] guy head on as he made [an] illegal turn. [I'm] blessed." Traveling west crossing over I35 and pickup made [a] left turn in front of me to get [to] I35 south. hit him head on. Sooner Magic. Thanks.
Thanks to all with positive thoughts after my car accident Saturday. I'm sore, but got extremely lucky. Wasn't my time. Other driver cited."
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Paul Heyman's return is one of the more positive things to occur in WWE in a good while. As I have said over the years, Heyman's TV persona is an easy one to dislike.
What makes Heyman so effective is that he doesn't play the 'role' of a villain who has litigious tendencies. Plus, Heyman is a life long fan who now has the chance to essentially reinvent himself with this unexpected return to the genre. It will likely be his last return to the business if I had to make a wager.
I'm very excited about today's trip and tomorrow's work in Orlando. I'm like a kid on his first day at a new school. I don't know what to expect but am excited to be 'enrolled.' The future of the WWE lies within the Talent Development program and I am blessed to be able to help in that area in any way that the company sees fit. My role has yet to be outlined but I think I can assist in many areas and I'm excited to devote my time and energies to helping develop the young stars of tomorrow.
Can't wait to see CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE Title this Sunday night in Raleigh on PPV. Hope the Raleigh live audience is more emotionally invested that was the Greensboro audience a week or so ago. Punk vs Bryan should be off the page. I love their individual, in ring styles and, Lord knows, both men have paid ample dues.
Some day, Punk vs. Bryan has a potential 'Ironman Match' written all over it or perhaps even a 'best of three' series of bouts.
source: JRsBarBQ.com