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Title: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 10:55:32 AM
Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Gateway Pundit ^ | 05/07/10 | Jim Hoft

Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 1:24:16 PM by American Dream 246
via FR
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What country are we in? 200 students left school and held a march today following the reports yesterday that 4 students dare wear American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo.

Hispanic students march down Monterey Road in Morgan Hill on Thursday morning asking for respect after Live Oak High School Principal Nick Boden ignited a controversy Wednesday by sending home five students who wore American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. (Photo by: MorganHill Times Staff)

MorganHill Times reported:

About 200 Hispanic teens are marching in Morgan Hill yelling “We want respect!” and “Si se puede!” in reaction to a controversy ignited when the Live Oak High School principal effectively sent four students home for wearing T-shirts with American flags on them during Cinco de Mayo.

Mexican-American students felt the students were being disrespectful on the only day they celebrate their heritage while students sporting red, white and blue said it violated their First Amendment rights.

Six police cars and a Morgan Hill motorcycle officer have been cruising alongside the large group as it marches.

The group – mostly high school students – walked out of school this morning after the story of four students who were sent home because they wore American flag T-shirts went viral on TV and online. Many wear red, white and green and two large Mexico flags can be seen at the front of the line.

The students say they want people to know they’re proud of their heritage and they believe wearing red, white and blue on Cinco de Mayo is disrespectful.

Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 10:57:35 AM
These are the dirty rotten vermin our nations' future rests upon? 

We are really screwed. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: BM OUT on May 07, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
Where is McVEIGH WHEN YOU NEED HIM?
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: loco on May 07, 2010, 11:01:44 AM
Flying the Mexican flag above the upside down American flag is disrespectful, I don't care if they are illegals or American citizens.  I guess there are no laws in the US prohibiting this, but I don't like it. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 11:03:43 AM
That's my point.  Its cool if you want to celebrate your heritage.  But to fly the USA flag upside down under the Mexican flag? 

If these kids think Mexico is so great, they should ask their parents why they came here in the first place and put things into perspective. 

We have our problems and issues, but this type of behavior is really insane.   
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Skip8282 on May 07, 2010, 11:05:24 AM
Where is McVEIGH WHEN YOU NEED HIM?


Killing them won't solve this problem.  Getting rid of the jackass educators and replacing them with some decent ones will help.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: drkaje on May 07, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
My advice: Keep marching until you get back to wherever your parents immigrated from and STUFU!
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: BM OUT on May 07, 2010, 11:13:48 AM
Seriously,I dont care if they wear Mexican flags,or Mexican flag shirts,but just dont bitch if we wear American flag shirts.How about everyone minds their own freaking buisiness.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 11:14:59 AM
Got to be honest, I'd bang some of those chics in the first pic. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 11:19:57 AM
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: loco on May 07, 2010, 11:34:22 AM
Got to be honest, I'd bang some of those chics in the first pic. 

You like them thick, don't you?   :)
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 11:37:05 AM
You like them thick, don't you?   :)

Skinny chics dont do shit for me.   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 12secGT on May 07, 2010, 11:40:11 AM
Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Gateway Pundit ^ | 05/07/10 | Jim Hoft

Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 1:24:16 PM by American Dream 246
via FR
________________________ ________________________ __________________

What country are we in? 200 students left school and held a march today following the reports yesterday that 4 students dare wear American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo.

Hispanic students march down Monterey Road in Morgan Hill on Thursday morning asking for respect after Live Oak High School Principal Nick Boden ignited a controversy Wednesday by sending home five students who wore American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. (Photo by: MorganHill Times Staff)

MorganHill Times reported:

About 200 Hispanic teens are marching in Morgan Hill yelling “We want respect!” and “Si se puede!” in reaction to a controversy ignited when the Live Oak High School principal effectively sent four students home for wearing T-shirts with American flags on them during Cinco de Mayo.

Mexican-American students felt the students were being disrespectful on the only day they celebrate their heritage while students sporting red, white and blue said it violated their First Amendment rights.

Six police cars and a Morgan Hill motorcycle officer have been cruising alongside the large group as it marches.

The group – mostly high school students – walked out of school this morning after the story of four students who were sent home because they wore American flag T-shirts went viral on TV and online. Many wear red, white and green and two large Mexico flags can be seen at the front of the line.

The students say they want people to know they’re proud of their heritage and they believe wearing red, white and blue on Cinco de Mayo is disrespectful.


Stand strong Az... We love you!!
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: George Whorewell on May 07, 2010, 11:42:25 AM
One of the reasons why I love South Park is that all of their political commentary comes to fruition in the end. If you keep allowing an endless stream of these disgusting 3rd world slobs to enter the country, then it wont be long before America becomes as bad, broke, hopeless and depressing as the places that these people come from.

Legalizing the illegals will be the nail in the coffin for America- I guarantee it.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 12secGT on May 07, 2010, 11:42:35 AM


BOB FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tu_holmes on May 07, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
They can take their asses back across the border... Fuck them.

America... Love it or leave it.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Eric15210 on May 07, 2010, 11:47:10 AM

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Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 11:47:55 AM


If he's so upset about how these kids were treated on Cinqo de Mayo, ...why is he sporting Red, White, & Green?
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Skeletor on May 07, 2010, 11:51:11 AM

About 200 Hispanic teens are marching in Morgan Hill yelling “We want respect!” and “Si se puede!” in reaction to a controversy ignited when the Live Oak High School principal effectively sent four students home for wearing T-shirts with American flags on them during Cinco de Mayo.

Mexican-American students felt the students were being disrespectful on the only day they celebrate their heritage while students sporting red, white and blue said it violated their First Amendment rights.

The students say they want people to know they’re proud of their heritage and they believe wearing red, white and blue on Cinco de Mayo is disrespectful.


How much more respect can they get? They have a freedom to say whatever the hell they want, to march and protest for it (even if that means causing inconvenience to others). They should expect that everyone else has the same rights and privileges and that other people can be as damn proud of their heritage (or any other matter).
"Cinqo de mayo" or whatever they call it does not give them the right to own the country for a day or to oppress others' freedom.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 11:53:54 AM
They should expect that everyone else has the same rights and privileges and that other people can be as damn proud of their heritage (or any other matter). "Cinqo de mayo" or whatever they call it does not give them the right to own the country for a day or to oppress others' freedom.


Agreed, ...however I think many people are feeling especially touchy on the heels of the ridiculous Arizona law.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
If he's so upset about how these kids were treated on Cinqo de Mayo, ...why is he sporting Red, White, & Green?

Unreal.  You cant be that dumb . . . oh wait . . .
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tonymctones on May 07, 2010, 11:58:08 AM
Agreed, ...however I think many people are feeling especially touchy on the heels of the ridiculous Arizona law.
many ppl are feeling especially touchy on the heels of the illegal immigrants that are flooding this nation...why do they get no special consideration?
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 12:00:14 PM
Agreed, ...however I think many people are feeling especially touchy on the heels of the ridiculous Arizona law.

Let those runts go to Mexico and see how great it is. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 12:01:55 PM
many ppl are feeling especially touchy on the heels of the illegal immigrants that are flooding this nation...why do they get no special consideration?

I believe that's what the ill conceived Arizona law was trying to address. Do try to keep up.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tu_holmes on May 07, 2010, 12:02:59 PM
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Agreed, ...however I think many people are feeling especially touchy on the heels of the ridiculous Arizona law.


Really?! You think those kids even know Arizona has a stupid law?

WRONG!

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Unreal.  You cant be that dumb . . . oh wait . . .

On this one... I gotta agree... I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

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many ppl are feeling especially touchy on the heels of the illegal immigrants that are flooding this nation...why do they get no special consideration?


This is true... Why aren't people worried about the legalized and naturalized citizens more? No one hates an illegal immigrant more than a legal one.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 12:10:46 PM
Really?! You think those kids even know Arizona has a stupid law?

WRONG!

I find it hard to believe that anyone in the US is unaware that Arizona has passed a stupid law.
but then again, you are talking about America... land of the reat uninformed.

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On this one... I gotta agree... I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

You really don't think people's sensitivities to the issue have risen a bit. You don't think this has brought sentiments bubbling over regardless of which side of the legislation you fall? Wow Tu, i always thought you were brighter than that.

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This is true... Why aren't people worried about the legalized and naturalized citizens more?

You don't think many of the people speaking out against this stupid law, don't have as their primary concern the rights of legal US citizens? The fact that it will lead to racial profiling is secondary in the minds of many. the biggest burden, of this ill conceived myopic legislation will land squarely on the shoulders of legal tax-paying American citizens.

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No one hates an illegal immigrant more than a legal one.

I'd have to agree with that one.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: loco on May 07, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
No one hates an illegal immigrant more than a legal one.

Which is why legal immigrants oppose the new Arizona law.  They think "I came to the US legally, went through all of the legal red tape and paid all the money, and the illegals get to enjoy the same benefits I enjoy?  Now I'm going to be racially profiled, harassed by the police and asked for proof of citizenship too, and all because of these illegals?  No way!"
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tu_holmes on May 07, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
Then the LEGALS should be the ones running around pointing out the ILLEGALS and saying "That guy needs to go."

That would truly help solve a lot of the issue.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: loco on May 07, 2010, 12:21:09 PM
Then the LEGALS should be the ones running around pointing out the ILLEGALS and saying "That guy needs to go."

That would truly help solve a lot of the issue.

Yeah, because legal immigrants have super powers that tell them who is illegal and who isn't. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tu_holmes on May 07, 2010, 12:23:21 PM
Man... come on... Stop that.

If you live in the ghetto, you know when the guy next door stole the TV from the guy down the street... If you're legal, and you live next door to an illegal... You do know.

Hey... that 30 year old dude didn't live next door yesterday and no moving vans came by and yet he's living there today.

Hell, they talk about how they got across the border... people who think that they won't be ratted out talk a lot.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: doison on May 07, 2010, 12:24:27 PM
Respect?  
It's FUCKING CINCO de MAYO!  
The whole god damned country calls May 5th by the name of the mexican holiday!  

How much respect do they want?  Do they want us to grow our hair into a rat tail and say 'Jess' instead of yes?  


Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2010, 12:26:13 PM


Score.  Again. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 12:28:01 PM
Then the LEGALS should be the ones running around pointing out the ILLEGALS and saying "That guy needs to go."

That would truly help solve a lot of the issue.

NO! That's simply pitting people against others serving only to further divide the general population so they can be more easily managed by the powers that be, while they rob you all blind.

What needs to happen is for the federal government to get off it's ass and pass definitive immigration reform, and to uphold the immigration laws already on the books. They need to crack down on employers who hire illegals, and stop turning a blind eye to large Agro corporations who bus them in en masse.

And then the rest of you need to STFU when the lack of illegal labour gets reflected in the final price points you pay at the supermarkets. You can't have it both ways. If you buy... OWN IT!
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: loco on May 07, 2010, 12:28:16 PM
Man... come on... Stop that.

If you live in the ghetto, you know when the guy next door stole the TV from the guy down the street... If you're legal, and you live next door to an illegal... You do know.

Hey... that 30 year old dude didn't live next door yesterday and no moving vans came by and yet he's living there today.

Hell, they talk about how they got across the border... people who think that they won't be ratted out talk a lot.

So you assume that the legal immigrants who oppose the new Arizona immigration law live in the ghetto?   ::)
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: rccs on May 07, 2010, 12:28:34 PM
Mexico is one of the most disgunting countries in the world...
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 12:31:21 PM
Yeah, because legal immigrants have super powers that tell them who is illegal and who isn't. 

Kind of ridiculous isn't it? Just because people are of the same ethnic descent doesn't mean they're going to travel in the same social circles.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tonymctones on May 07, 2010, 12:34:20 PM
Kind of ridiculous isn't it? Just because people are of the same ethnic descent doesn't mean they're going to travel in the same social circles.
ya that never happens... ::)
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: doison on May 07, 2010, 12:35:50 PM
Kind of ridiculous isn't it? Just because people are of the same ethnic descent doesn't mean they're going to travel in the same social circles.

It's a pretty damn good approximation though.  
I'm not saying it's a good thing, but 'just because people are of the same ethnic descent' DOES usually mean they travel in the same social circles.

Unless you're putting up a billboard as advertisement for your company....then you'll find people from every ethnicity laughing it up alongside each other and anyone in a wheelchair they could find on staff.  
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 12:39:55 PM
JAGASS - Bob is wearing the shirt for his bar, the the Irish flag w the American flag flown upside down. 

Stop sniffing those damn gas pills.   
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Man... come on... Stop that.

If you live in the ghetto, you know when the guy next door stole the TV from the guy down the street... If you're legal, and you live next door to an illegal... You do know.

Hey... that 30 year old dude didn't live next door yesterday and no moving vans came by and yet he's living there today.

Hell, they talk about how they got across the border... people who think that they won't be ratted out talk a lot.

1. Do you really think that a legal immigrant, with an education, career, and a good job is going to be living next door to Pedro who just crawled through a hole in the fence and showed up with nothing but the clothes on his back?

2. There are plenty of people who rent accomodations furnished, or who for whatever reason will move into a place without moving vans. being a divorced man yourself, I'm sure you're familiar with a situation where a man will move out of the home he shared with his family, leaving behind the furniture etc, in order to maintain a sense of continuity for his kids... or sometimes just such time apart. Could be 6 of this, half a dozen of the other. Who knows? it's a flimsy way to build a case for lack of legal status in a country.

Shoot, when I moved into my very first apartment completely on my own, ...it was a Bay Street highrise, and there was no moving van. I brought a TV set, a telephone and my clothes. I acquired everything else. Come to think of it, I put the phone in 5 days before I actually moved in.

3. Do you think that in this environment rife with such vehement anti-illegal immigrant sentiment is going blurt out the fact that they are illegal to a total stranger?

The methods you advocate will simply foster an environment where people feel justified in taking action against complete strangers based on nothing but wild speculative suspicion.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: loco on May 07, 2010, 12:47:09 PM
It's a pretty damn good approximation though.  
I'm not saying it's a good thing, but 'just because people are of the same ethnic descent' DOES usually mean they travel in the same social circles.

Unless you're putting up a billboard as advertisement for your company....then you'll find people from every ethnicity laughing it up alongside each other and anyone in a wheelchair they could find on staff.  

You guys are now contradicting yourselves.  I was commenting on tu_holmes' post:

No one hates an illegal immigrant more than a legal one.

So one minute they hate each other, and the next minute they hangout together and tell each other their immigrations status?

I'll tell you who knows who the illegals are, the Americans who hire them.  They know who the illegal are for sure.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 12:55:24 PM
ya that never happens... ::)

So what are you saying... that you choose your friends because they are part Japanese?

Are you more likely to be found hanging out with other Japanese Americans, or more likely Americans who are into similar interests and pursuits, and live the same lifestyle you do? If you were to circumvent the law, would you admit that to a total stranger, or to someone who also happened to be Japanese American, ...or would you save that little tid bit for your close friends, ...or would you simply keep quiet?

I idea of creating a civilian snitch brigade is ridiculous beyond belief and has some very nasty connotations that your sociey most definitely is not ready for. That would be one hell of a slippery slope.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 12:59:31 PM

I'll tell you who knows who the illegals are, the Americans who hire them.  They know who the illegal are for sure.

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/frus_hammer.gif)

That hit the nail square on the head! QFT!
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:00:41 PM
And those in the DMV, welfare office, hospitals, schools, who give out taxpayer funded benes to these bums. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tonymctones on May 07, 2010, 01:05:46 PM
So what are you saying... that you choose your friends because they are part Japanese?

Are you more likely to be found hanging out with other Japanese Americans, or more likely Americans who are into similar interests and pursuits, and live the same lifestyle you do? If you were to circumvent the law, would you admit that to a total stranger, or to someone who also happened to be Japanese American, ...or would you save that little tid bit for your close friends, ...or would you simply keep quiet?

I idea of creating a civilian snitch brigade is ridiculous beyond belief and has some very nasty connotations that your sociey most definitely is not ready for. That would be one hell of a slippery slope.
LMAO you see ppl with similar experiences and yes believe it or not who look alike are likely to find more in common. Did you know that ppl are attracted to things that remind them of themselves? guess not...

you see ethinicity has alot to do with interest and pursuits...soccer is a big part of mexican culture this is why you see alot of mexicans playing soccor and at soccer games. You see b/c you share an ethinicity means you likely share alot of life experiences especially growing up in the same society...MEANING YOU HAVE MORE IN COMMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you think gangs have alot of the same ethinicity is a coincident? you think that most ppl mary the same ethinicity is a coincident?

how niave
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tonymctones on May 07, 2010, 01:07:26 PM
oh p.s. jag Im half white as well, which makes me just as much white as I am japanese... ;)

and yes i had many asian and white friends in high school...
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:08:21 PM
Jag is 100% moron. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tonymctones on May 07, 2010, 01:09:14 PM
I'll tell you who knows who the illegals are, the Americans who hire them.  They know who the illegal are for sure.
Loco many companies get around that these days by using them as independent contractors...so basically the illegals are self employed they are just contracted out...are you going to punish every company that does business with a company that uses illegals?
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:10:32 PM
We need to put ICE officers in ERs, jails and schools. 
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2010, 01:12:15 PM
1. Do you really think that a legal immigrant, with an education, career, and a good job is going to be living next door to Pedro who just crawled through a hole in the fence and showed up with nothing but the clothes on his back?

Shows how very little you know about the country you hate.   ::)
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
And those in the DMV, welfare office, hospitals, schools, who give out taxpayer funded benes to these bums. 

What tax payer benefits do they get at the DMV?
Do they not have to pay for their driver's licences and renewal tags like everyone else?
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tonymctones on May 07, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
What tax payer benefits do they get at the DMV?
Do they not have to pay for their driver's licences and renewal tags like everyone else?
illegal immigrants are not allowed to get licenses in the first place...
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:18:46 PM
What tax payer benefits do they get at the DMV?
Do they not have to pay for their driver's licences and renewal tags like everyone else?

My god are you dumb.  Are you seriously that moronic?
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 01:18:56 PM
LMAO you see ppl with similar experiences and yes believe it or not who look alike are likely to find more in common. Did you know that ppl are attracted to things that remind them of themselves? guess not...

you see ethinicity has alot to do with interest and pursuits...soccer is a big part of mexican culture this is why you see alot of mexicans playing soccor and at soccer games. You see b/c you share an ethinicity means you likely share alot of life experiences especially growing up in the same society...MEANING YOU HAVE MORE IN COMMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you think gangs have alot of the same ethinicity is a coincident? you think that most ppl mary the same ethinicity is a coincident?

how niave

So then the answer to my question is that you would most likely confess your crimes to a stranger at a soccer game?

There's an old saying... show me the income of your 5 closest friends, and I'd be able to figure out your income.

People may share an interest in sports, but more than likely friendships are formed amonng those of the same social strata. Wall Street brokers most likely won't be found hanging out with a cabbie from the Bronx... unless the friendship was most likely formed in grade school.

but all that is really irrelevant. the point is creating a civilian snitch brigade is frought with peril.

If you want to effectively get rid of the bees... you don't swat the individuals, you get rid of the hive.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tu_holmes on May 07, 2010, 01:19:12 PM
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So you assume that the legal immigrants who oppose the new Arizona immigration law live in the ghetto?  

No... What I'm saying is that people know who's around them... If someone is in the ghetto... they know who the gang bangers are... If you're in an area where there are illegals... you know it.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
Illegal immigrants arrested at DMV
4 Suspects accused of identity fraud
Updated: Monday, 03 May 2010, 6:19 PM EDT
Published : Monday, 03 May 2010, 6:18 PM EDT

________________________ ________________________ ___________________

Pawtucket, R.I. (WPRI) - RI State Police arrest four identity fraud suspects at the Pawtucket DMV.

Investigators say all of the suspects admitted to entering the country illegally.

Three of them, who are from Honduras, say they purchased their fake IDs from a street vendor.

The fourth suspect is a citizen of the Dominican Republic who says he bought a Puerto Rican birth certificate.

All four suspects were arraigned before a Justice of the Peace.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 01:21:50 PM
illegal immigrants are not allowed to get licenses in the first place...

It is permitted in some states. Personally, i think they should allow illegals to have drivers licenses.
It would ensure they are at least proficient behind the wheel, and it makes tracking them down much easier.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: 24KT on May 07, 2010, 01:23:02 PM
Illegal immigrants arrested at DMV
4 Suspects accused of identity fraud
Updated: Monday, 03 May 2010, 6:19 PM EDT
Published : Monday, 03 May 2010, 6:18 PM EDT

________________________ ________________________ ___________________

Pawtucket, R.I. (WPRI) - RI State Police arrest four identity fraud suspects at the Pawtucket DMV.

Investigators say all of the suspects admitted to entering the country illegally.

Three of them, who are from Honduras, say they purchased their fake IDs from a street vendor.

The fourth suspect is a citizen of the Dominican Republic who says he bought a Puerto Rican birth certificate.

All four suspects were arraigned before a Justice of the Peace.


I rest my case.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:23:02 PM
DMV clerk arrested in fraud

Cash bribes for IDs for illegal immigrants alleged in FBI case

By CARRI GEER THEVENOT
REVIEW-JOURNAL

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A Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles clerk was arrested Friday in Las Vegas after a federal indictment accused her of issuing identification documents to illegal immigrants in exchange for cash bribes.
 
Marilyn Millender, 52, of North Las Vegas was indicted Wednesday on one count of bribery and one count of making a false statement. The DMV and the FBI are investigating the case.

"We do prosecute the bad apples, and we do take fraud seriously," said Kevin Malone, a DMV spokesman.

Millender appeared Friday afternoon before U.S. Magistrate Judge Peggy Leen, who released the defendant on her own recognizance. Millender described herself in court as a high school graduate.

Assistant Federal Public Defender William Carrico represented Millender at the hearing but said she is trying to retain a private attorney. Her trial was scheduled for Nov. 4.

Outside the courtroom, Carrico said he had met Millender shortly before the hearing and knew little about her case. He said she has two adult children and has never been married.

A man Carrico identified as Millender's brother-in-law attended the hearing but declined to comment.

Malone said Millender was hired by the DMV in October 2003. He said she has been on administrative leave with pay since July and knew she was being investigated.

Millender worked as a front-line licensing clerk at the DMV office at 7170 N. Decatur Blvd. Her duties included issuing Nevada driver's licenses and state identification cards to members of the public.

Between June 1, 2007, and Dec. 30, according to the indictment, she solicited and agreed to accept cash payments from Rocio Aurora Ryan in exchange for the issuance of state identification documents. The indictment alleges the transactions involved $5,000 or more.

"There were multiple transactions," said Natalie Collins, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office in Las Vegas. "There were multiple sales of documents."

Collins said she believes Ryan, who has not been charged, lives in the Las Vegas Valley.

The indictment also accuses Millender of falsely telling the FBI between May 14 and June 4 that she never received any money from Ryan "in connection with the performance of her official duties" as a DMV employee.

"Illegally obtained government-issued identification documents can be used to commit a wide range of illegal acts, including terrorism, and can significantly impede law enforcement activities," according to a statement issued by U.S. Attorney Greg Brower. "This is a serious crime, with serious consequences."

In 2004, a federal judge sentenced former Nevada DMV employee Dalva Flagg to nearly six years in prison for providing unauthorized documents to illegal immigrants in exchange for bribes. She admitted accepting more than $300,000 in bribes.

The DMV canceled hundreds of driver's licenses and state identification cards as a result of Flagg's actions.

Malone said the agency also will cancel licenses in connection with the Millender investigation.

"We have identified multiple transactions here, and we are going to be canceling an unspecified number of licenses," the spokesman said. "It's a fairly low number."

A Clark County district judge sentenced former DMV clerk Charita Carter to probation in 2005 for selling a driver's license to a police informant for $500. The informant had provided a counterfeit birth certificate and Social Security card.

"We take fraud very seriously on both sides of the counter," Malone said.

However, the spokesman said the DMV cannot do much to stop an employee who is "intent on breaking the law."

"You can't have a supervisor hovering over every single transaction," he said.

But he stressed, "The vast majority of our employees are very honest."

Contact reporter Carri Geer Thevenot at cgeer@reviewjournal.com or 702-380-8135.
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: tonymctones on May 07, 2010, 01:23:53 PM
So then the answer to my question is that you would most likely confess your crimes to a stranger at a soccer game?

There's an old saying... show me the income of your 5 closest friends, and I'd be able to figure out your income.

People may share an interest in sports, but more than likely friendships are formed amonng those of the same social strata. Wall Street brokers most likely won't be found hanging out with a cabbie from the Bronx... unless the friendship was most likely formed in grade school.

but all that is really irrelevant. the point is creating a civilian snitch brigade is frought with peril.

If you want to effectively get rid of the bees... you don't swat the individuals, you get rid of the hive.
I agree with you on the snitch brigae which is why the power needs to be in the hands of ppl that are trained and can be held accountable for their actions...THE POLICE

I would divuldge private info to ppl close to me but you see as ive shown you many ppl have more in common with those who have the same life experiences as them such as those who share the same ethinicity...sho who would be those close to you?

your idiotic statement that ppl of the same ethinicty arent drawn to one another is ignorant and flys in the face of sociological studies as well as just plain COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:24:59 PM
Feds Uncover Driver’s License Fraud Operation
Officials say illegal immigrants were brought to Oregon and supplied with fake addresses to get IDs

Ryan Frank and Noelle Crombie, The Oregonian, Mar. 28

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Thousands of illegal immigrants have crossed into Oregon to fraudulently obtain driver’s licenses, key documents for gaining credit cards, opening bank accounts and boarding airplanes, federal authorities investigating the sophisticated scheme say.

They say the operation, which was halted in 2003, is the biggest fraud and immigration case of its kind in Oregon.

“Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people that should not be getting driver’s licenses are,” said Michael Williams, a special agent with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and a lead investigator on the case. “It’s mind-boggling. When all the details of the case come out eventually, it will boggle people’s minds that this went on.”

The investigation centers on three Washington County brothers who operated driving and testing schools and a Southeast Portland man who recruited illegal immigrants from New York.

In January, an Aloha woman — the only person charged so far — was convicted of selling counterfeit mail as part of the scheme. The bogus mail — a key to the operation’s success — was used to falsely prove residency to Oregon Driver and Motor Vehicle Services clerks.

Three factors led to the operation’s success in Oregon: The state issues licenses based on residency, not immigration status. Oregon is one of 21 states that will license illegal immigrants. Until this year, DMV accepted personal mail such as letters as proof of residency at a specific Oregon address. DMV officials didn’t enforce the agency’s rules, allowing private companies to conduct tests without requiring customers to prove they lived in Oregon.

Law enforcement and immigration officials say the case illustrates how easily anyone can get a government-issued ID, and shows how an unscrupulous entrepreneur can exploit illegal immigrants desperate to remain in the country.

Federal agents say the ease with which people were able to get Oregon IDs raises security concerns in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. Many of the 19 hijackers had state-issued or counterfeit driver’s licenses or ID cards — although none was from Oregon.

Thousands of drivers

Investigators say the scheme brought to Oregon thousands of illegal immigrants from California, Idaho, Nevada and New York. The immigrants — arriving by the vanload or by plane — would receive forged documents, including completed license applications and, sometimes, completed driving tests. After paying hundreds of dollars for the service, they returned home within days with Oregon driver’s licenses in hand.

In court records, federal agents accuse participants in the scheme of conspiring to violate federal immigration laws.

One of the men the investigation focuses on is former state contractor Miguel Robleto and his Hillsboro company, Driver Master Education. According to state records, 20,225 people passed state driving tests through the company over more than three years. No one is certain how many of those people obtained Oregon licenses.

In the three years ending in 2003, 70,000 people on average annually passed DMV driving tests. Robleto’s company each year gave an average of 5,300 passing grades on driving tests.

Federal agents have seized, from seven people, $1.1 million related to the scheme. Nearly $900,000 came from Robleto, according to records filed in U.S. District Court.

Robleto last week denied any wrongdoing, saying the money came from legitimate business operations. He has not been charged with any crime.

Immigration agents began investigating Robleto and his business in May 2002 when Oregon DMV employees alerted them to concerns about potential fraud, according to a 35-page affidavit written by Special Agent Glenn Watson. The affidavit was filed in federal court to support the government’s seizure of money related to the operation.

Robleto’s company in early 2000 won a state contract to conduct driving tests for people seeking Oregon licenses. He and a handful of others were awarded contracts that year in an effort to privatize some DMV operations and offer motorists flexibility in scheduling and locations.

But, according to a DMV review, signs of trouble emerged in the program’s first year.

At least one DMV employee said a contractor who wasn’t named had “accepted obviously false documents,” according to the December 2000 report.

In the same report, employees said they saw “many opportunities for abuse. . . . There are doubts about the ethics of some of the third-party examiners.”

DMV officials last week said some of the complaints were anonymous and could not be substantiated.

Hints of a scheme

In May 2002, nearly 18 months after the review, DMV employees told immigration officials that Robleto was possibly involved in a scheme to help illegal immigrants from other states obtain Oregon driver’s licenses.

According to court documents, Robleto’s customers complained that the Hillsboro man was charging illegal immigrants $100 for a piece of counterfeit mail.

One DMV employee told investigators she saw packed cars with out-of-state license plates arrive at a DMV branch. People inside the cars often would be turned away because they lacked paperwork to prove they lived in Oregon only to return a short time later with the documents.

Immigration officials later learned the people were customers of Miguel Robleto’s company or La Unica, a Beaverton driving school run by his brothers Sergio Robleto, 41, and Fabio Robleto, 39.

According to court documents, Fabio Robleto said “some guys” were transporting people from California to Oregon for driving tests. He later admitted charging them $2,500 each for the ride.

James Cattanach, a Beaverton man who ran his own testing company and is also under investigation, told authorities he saw three large vans used to take people from Las Vegas to La Unica.

DMV records showed some of Miguel Robleto’s customers used common addresses when applying for licenses. In one case, 14 customers listed one Bend home.

Miguel Robleto, 45, said last week that it wasn’t his role to verify his customers lived in Oregon.

“That’s not my job,” he said. “The DMV is the person who was doing all that.”

But according to state rules, testing companies were required to ask for documents proving Oregon residency.

Gary A. Ouderkirk, DMV’s auditor for the program, said last week he was unaware of the rule.

The state stopped using contractors to perform tests in November.

Miguel Robleto continues to run a driving school. One afternoon last week, a steady stream of customers stopped by his office in a one-story home in the 500 block of Southwest Walnut Street in Hillsboro.

Lawyer Michelle Burrows, who is representing Sergio and Fabio Robleto, declined to let her clients be interviewed.

“All I can say right now is my clients deny any wrongdoing,” she said.

Fake mail was key

Court records say the operation’s success hinged on one piece of paper: counterfeit mail.

Veronica Trejo-Jasso, the only person charged in the scheme, told investigators she sold mail to Miguel Robleto’s customers for four months in 2003. According to court records, Trejo-Jasso, 29, would address envelopes in pencil to an Aloha post office box or former residences. She would pick up the mail and erase the original recipient’s name. Trejo-Jasso would then replace it with a customer’s name and address. At times she also used a counterfeit postmark stamp.

Trejo-Jasso sold as many as 55 envelopes a week for $25 each, court records say. During a search of her apartment in September, federal agents seized $26,478 in cash hidden in a sock.

In January, Trejo-Jasso was sentenced to two years in prison for forgery-related charges.

In an interview with The Oregonian, Miguel Robleto denied Trejo-Jasso’s account, saying he didn’t know about her counterfeit mail scam.

Recruiting from New York

While Miguel Robleto’s company catered to Latino customers, another central figure in the investigation told federal officials he recruited Chinese nationals living in New York.

Maxim Lam, 53, told federal agents he found customers through the Far East Driving School in New York. He helped five to 10 people a week get Oregon licenses with counterfeit documents, according to court records.

Records don’t explain what business relationship Miguel Robleto and Lam shared.

Lam said he charged $400 to $500 to pick up a Chinese national at the Portland airport, take him to a motel and then to the DMV.

Court records say he often furnished customers with completed driver’s license applications and even offered to have other people take a test for them. About 70 of Lam’s customers used four addresses in the Portland area — including his own and that of a motel.

Lam at times sent his Chinese clients to Cattanach’s company, Catt’s Testing in Beaverton. Cattanach told investigators Lam brought “ringers” — people who would take the driving test for his customers. Cattanach, 67, said he threatened to stop working with Lam if he didn’t end the practice, according to court records.

Last fall, federal agents seized $73,880 from Cattanach’s home and bank accounts.

In an interview with The Oregonian, Cattanach said he did nothing wrong. He said he only tested customers after DMV had seen documents showing their identity, age and Oregon residency.

“I didn’t test anyone the DMV hadn’t approved,” Cattanach said.

Lam, a Canadian citizen, has not been charged in connection with the fraud investigation. He could not be reached for comment at the Southeast Portland address listed on state DMV records and in court documents. DMV adjusts practices

The criminal investigation contributed to the state ending its contract testing program in November, said Lorna Youngs, DMV administrator.

And this year, Youngs said, DMV has tightened its rules about which documents applicants can use to prove their identity and Oregon residency as part of a post-Sept. 11 review.

DMV no longer accepts personal mail as proof of Oregon residency. Instead, it requires mail from official sources, such as utilities, that better tie a resident to a specific address. The agency also doesn’t accept Spanish-language birth certificates.

“Our customer-service goals are taking a back seat to more rigorous requirements,” Youngs said.

The state still accepts Mexican consular identification, despite a recommendation from the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators to stop the practice because of security concerns.

Youngs said that if the agency stopped accepting consular identification many illegal immigrants would be excluded from getting licenses, a move she said would require action by the Legislature.

Even with further changes in Oregon, one expert said the nation’s driver’s licensing system remains ripe for fraud.

Despite widespread acceptance of state-issued driver’s licenses, few if any states independently verify documents shown by their customers.

Werner Raes, a retired Anaheim, Calif., police detective and vice president of the International Association of Financial Crimes Investigators, said driver’s licenses shouldn’t be accepted as proof of someone’s identity.

“You can just walk into any DMV in this country and get a fake ID for $20,” he said. “In this country, you can be anyone you want to be any day of the week.”

News researchers Lynne Palombo and Margie Gultry of The Oregonian contributed to this report. Ryan Frank: 503-294-5955; ryanfrank@news.oregonian.com Noelle Crombie: 503-276-7184; noellecrombie@news.oregonian.com

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Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
Police say Florida DMV has been issuing fake drivers licenses to illegal aliens
December 11, 6:36 PM
Norfolk Crime Examiner
Dave Gibson

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Palm Beach Sheriff's Office

Police say that at least seven employees at the state license bureau in Delray Beach have been taking bribes to issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens. The scam allegedly put drivers licenses in the hands more than 1,500 illegal aliens.

On Thursday, police in Palm Beach arrested Willy Adam, 52, and charged him with five counts of unlawful compensation to reward official behavior, and two counts of conspiracy, both felonies.

At his arraignment, Palm Beach County Assistant State Attorney Alan Johnson, told Judge Ted S. Booras that Adam is not a U.S. citizen and presents a flight risk. He is currently in the West Palm Beach county Jail on $145,000 bail.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office issued a warrant for Adam in September, along with six others accused of facilitating the scam by issuing bribes, making phony immigration documents, and escorting the illegal aliens to the DMV employees in question.

So far, police have arrested seven license bureau examiners, who are accused of issuing licenses to the illegal aliens without administering either a driving or written test.

The license examiners allegedly received between $1,200 to $2,500 per license, prosecutors believe that those involved made several millions of dollars in the illegal operation.

Three of the conspirators remain at large.

Last week, in Boynton Beach, a 10-year-old girl was hit and killed by an illegal alien driving on the wrong side of the road.


Title: Re: Hundreds of Hispanic Students Leave School & Hold March Demanding Respect
Post by: chaos on May 07, 2010, 03:46:06 PM
They can take their asses back across the border... Fuck them.

America... Love it or leave it.
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Anything less is UnAmerican.