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Just reading this article tells what the new domestic terroristic event america has planned for america. Note the wording, urgency and assuredness of this happening...All of you better get ready for this event I see you all running willy nilly in the streets like 911
Cyber attack 'could fell US within 15 minutes'
The US must prepare itself for a full-scale cyber attack which could cause death and destruction across the country in less than 15 minutes, the former anti-terrorism Tsar to Bill Clinton and George W Bush has warned.
Alex Spillius in Washington
Published: 11:53PM BST 07 May 2010
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01631/richard_1631869c.jpg)
Former White House counterterrorism advisor Richard A Clarke: US facing cyber attack that could fell country in 15 minutes
Richard Clarke claims that America's lack of preparation for the annexing of its computer system by terrorists could lead to an "electronic Pearl Harbor".
In his warning, Mr Clarke paints a doomsday scenario in which the problems start with the collapse of one of Pentagon's computer networks.
Soon internet service providers are in meltdown. Reports come in of large refinery fires and explosions in Philadelphia and Houston. Chemical plants malfunction, releasing lethal clouds of chlorine.
Air traffic controllers report several mid-air collisions, while subway trains crash in New York, Washington and Los Angeles. More than 150 cities are suddenly blacked out. Tens of thousands of Americans die in an attack comparable to a nuclear bomb in its devastation.
Yet it would take no more than 15 minutes and involve not a single terrorist or soldier setting foot in the United States.
The scenario is contained the pages of his book, Cyber War: The Next National Security Threat, written with Robert Knake.
And Mr Clarke has been right before.
As anti-terrorism tsar under Mr Clinton and then Mr Bush, he issued dire warnings of the need for better defences against al-Qaeda, and wrote about his futile campaign in the 2004 book Against All Enemies.
Now he argues that a similar lack of preparation could exact a tragic price.
"The biggest secret about cyber war may be that at the very same time the US prepares for offensive cyber war, it is continuing policies that make it impossible to defend effectively from cyber attack," says the book.
In part, the US has been hampered by the unforeseeable success of the internet and expansion of computerised networks, which are now used in almost every aspect of industry but have led to a hazardous degree of over-dependence.
The belief in the internet as the freewheeling, free-spirited epitome of American free speech has made government intrusion politically difficult, leaving the private sector particularly vulnerable to well-trained hackers.
Successive administrations, including President Barack Obama's, have failed to get to grips with the scale of the problem, believe Clarke and Knake, though they have kindred spirits dotted around the establishment.
The military has yet to open its new Cyber Command centre, amid disagreements about what role different agencies will play.
Meanwhile America may have invented the internet, but at least 30 nations have created offensive cyber-war capabilities, which aim to plant a variety of viruses and bugs into key utility, military and financial systems of other states.
The authors are convinced that there will at some point be a cyber-war between two nations and are concerned that such a conflict would "lower the threshold" for a war with bombs and bullets.
Ironically, the United States is currently far more vulnerable to cyberwar than Russia or China, or even North Korea, because those countries have not only concentrated on their cyber defences but are less reliant on the internet.
"We must have the ability to turn off our connection to the internet and still be able to continue to operate," Mr Knake, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, told the Daily Telegraph. "Relying on a system as precarious as the internet is a big mistake.
"It is a fundamentally insecure ecosystem that is ripe for conflict and gives countries with disadvantages in conventional weapons an asymmetrical advantage." Britain, as a nanny state more tolerant of government interference, is far better prepared than its giant ally across the Atlantic.
The US has already experienced two major cyber warning shots. Hackers from Russia or China or both successfully planted software in the US electricity grid that left behind software that could be used to sabotage the system at a later date.
The North Koreans may not be able to feed their people but in 2009 they succeeded in bringing down the servers of the Department of Homeland Security, the US Treasury and several other government departments, along with regular internet providers, by flooding them with requests for data.
Most dramatically, it saturated the internet connections of a Pentagon server that the military would rely for logistical communications in an armed conflict.
"We need to rethink the premise that just because this took place with bits and bytes it wasn't a dangerous and destabilising action," said Mr Knake, who said they wrote the book "to start a conversation".
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I read about this. Scary stuff.
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China recently displayed some pretty aggressive cyber attacks and hacking. Considering their huge number and how the American economy depends on them this cannot be good.
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Just reading this article tells what the new domestic terroristic event america has planned for america. Note the wording, urgency and assuredness of this happening...All of you better get ready for this event I see you all running willy nilly in the streets like 911
And this would make you happy.
Just remember this is Global so if the US goes down then you in the UK will also go down and then you wont have Get Big to post on any more :'(
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And this would make you happy.
Just remember this is Global so if the US goes down then you in the UK will also go down and then you wont have Get Big to post on any more :'(
She doesn't live in the UK.
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And this would make you happy.
Just remember this is Global so if the US goes down then you in the UK will also go down and then you wont have Get Big to post on any more :'(
America is NOT the KEYSTONE of the world...The world will go on without america...
Since just about all american businesses are owned by UK and European countries and they themselves have siphoned off just about all of its wealth...there will be no great loss should america go down in a cyber attack. I think you all should worry that if such attack occurred that you would be left vulnerable to everyone and nation inside of america and out who could take advantage of that situation...
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America is NOT the KEYSTONE of the world...The world will go on without america...
Since just about all american businesses are owned by UK and European countries and they themselves have siphoned off just about all of its wealth...there will be no great loss should america go down in a cyber attack. I think you all should worry that if such attack occurred that you would be left vulnerable to everyone and nation inside of america and out who could take advantage of that situation...
I am not American my Pommie friend :)
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I am not American my Pommie friend :)
According to you it would not matter anyway as the whole world would be effected. If you are not american then why are you supporting it? Your belief is america will somehow cause the downfall of all nations with its downfall. I am saying america is NOT that inextricably tied to the world that the world will not or could not go on without it....
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If this really is such a life and death matter... you would think this dude would put his book on PDF so that everyone could read about it.
Instead, your only hope for survival is to spend $24.99 on the hardback version of this book so that you can get 'in the know'.
I always question the motive of people who are selling something to help eliminate the fear they create. I used to read prison planet until I saw ads from the same evil corporations he condemned daily, on his website hahaha...
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If this really is such a life and death matter... you would think this dude would put his book on PDF so that everyone could read about it.
Instead, your only hope for survival is to spend $24.99 on the hardback version of this book so that you can get 'in the know'.
I always question the motive of people who are selling something to help eliminate the fear they create. I used to read prison planet until I saw ads from the same evil corporations he condemned daily, on his website hahaha...
THAT IS RIDICULOUS ISN'T IT....something supposedly so important yet they are withholding it from everyone unless you buy the 29.99 dollar or whatever book. Does buying the book entitle a person to one free ticket to the underground bomb shelters or panic rooms so you can ride out the catastrophe???
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How about everyone stop being so damn helpless and educate themsleves and make reasonable prep plans?
The info is out there if you spend the time.
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good call.
upon your advice, i already sent in my $2300 for the 2012 Obama campaign. This way, if the banks fail and electricity is off, he'll still have my funds to help with his re-election efforts.
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good call.
upon your advice, i already sent in my $2300 for the 2012 Obama campaign. This way, if the banks fail and electricity is off, he'll still have my funds to help with his re-election efforts.
whats that make $10,000 so far this year? countless man hours spent shilling and parroting his agenda and misinformation?
all while being a husband, dad and working, youre a hard working man 240 ;) I respect that
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240's shill job has reached almost benny like status.
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LOL oh come on... what fun are threads when it's 20 dudes all saying "yeah bro... he sucks... I agreee... right on.... you said it...."
it's like a circle jerk.
I tell you what... let's try this... you start a thread praising Obama for a move, and I will attack and spin and shill for the anti-obama side. Find one thing you like about obama, one move he has made, and I will attack the postition with the same ferocity :)
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LOL oh come on... what fun are threads when it's 20 dudes all saying "yeah bro... he sucks... I agreee... right on.... you said it...."
it's like a circle jerk.
I tell you what... let's try this... you start a thread praising Obama for a move, and I will attack and spin and shill for the anti-obama side. Find one thing you like about obama, one move he has made, and I will attack the postition with the same ferocity :)
there are 10+ threads like that a day...why dont you do it in any of those?
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The US has already experienced two major cyber warning shots. Hackers from Russia or China or both successfully planted software in the US electricity grid that left behind software that could be used to sabotage the system at a later date.
Does this mean that huge international blackout from August 2003 in which they claimed a switch in Ohio had failed was really the result of a trojan left in the computers? ???
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good call.
upon your advice, i already sent in my $2300 for the 2012 Obama campaign. This way, if the banks fail and electricity is off, he'll still have my funds to help with his re-election efforts.
LOL, Dude you're hilarious! I'm beginning to see signs of the old 240. Is he back?
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because I often agree and feel I really can't add anything to it besides, "great point man, would you like a reacharound".
When someone says "240, what do you think", I happily pipe up.
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because I often agree and feel I really can't add anything to it besides, "great point man, would you like a reacharound".
When someone says "240, what do you think", I happily pipe up.
so you knee pad and silver line instead ???
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no, on the threads where i agree, i often dont bother posting.
go ahead, ask me on any thread. i disagree with obama quite often, and i agree with the repubs quite often. it's just kinda boring to parrot everyone else. way cooler to take adversarial postiions.