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Written By Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank. Do we need to say anymore? Listening to Obama's BS speech now.
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Surely they had a lot of regulations in there for fanny and freddy right?
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Written By Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank. Do we need to say anymore? Listening to Obama's BS speech now.
More like the:
- $5 ATM fee
- $10 minimum Debit Card transaction
- $30 a month checking
- $7 a month to use a teller in branch
- Nothing on Fannie Freddy
- More power to the Fed Reserve
- Keeps TBTF
waste of space bill?
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Does this bill address any of the root causes of the current crisis?
To big to fail?
The GSE's?
Re-enacting Glass-Steagal?
Not allowing banks to use deposits as "reserves" to trade with?
Mark to Market? So the banks actually have to value what is on their balance sheets so we can see what TRUE health they are in?
No? Doesn't address any of those? Oh, well, the banks win.
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it's BS.... but it's another WIN for obama.
He's passing anything he wants. Repubs need to come up with some better alternatives.
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Guess who gets control over the Consumer Protection agency? Geither and the Fed. Reserve.
This whole mess is right out of this book almost to the letter. But, ZERO will have his Rose Garden ceremony while we get all of our fees and costs jacked up just so he can claim a victory.
HOAX & CHANGE
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it's BS.... but it's another WIN for obama.
He's passing anything he wants. Repubs need to come up with some better alternatives.
No, he is signing whatever the congress hands him just so he can claim a victory, no matter whats in it.
240 - I swear, i have met high school kids with more sense on economics and business than Obama. If Geithner tells him to sign it, he will, no matter whats in it.
He is a puppet of the Federal Reserve and Wall Street, don't kid yourself.
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He's only "winning" because he has no competition. Let's if he'll still be winning come November.
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Did Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank really write this bill? I'm sure nothing will go wrong with this bill ;D
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Did Christopher Dodd and Barney Frank really write this bill? I'm sure nothing will go wrong with this bill ;D
Yes they did. The same criminals who orchestrated the collapse of Fanny/Freddy, dodd who got special loans from countrywide, etc, wrote this mess.
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He's only "winning" because he has no competition. Let's if he'll still be winning come November.
by nov, he'll have done more damage than any other president in history.
fin reg, healthcare, stim bill, amnesty, and cap/trade.
Most lib president would be happy to pull off ONE of these. He'll get them all and retire with his millions, while the repubs claim victory.
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The right hates to admit it but Obama will go down as one of the most successful presidents in history in terms of what he got done and where he came from. He'll be a case study for Poli Sci students for hundreds of years.
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The right hates to admit it but Obama will go down as one of the most successful presidents in history in terms of what he got done and where he came from. He'll be a case study for Poli Sci students for hundreds of years.
::) ::)
Health Care is a disaster and we will need to either repeal it wholesale or do it all over again as everyone gets squashed with costs.
This FINREG Bill is a joke beyond belief.
The Stim Bill is a collosal failure and no kneepadding from dupes and useful idiots can mask that shit sandwich.
and on and on.
if you think obamna might go down as LBJ, perhaps.
And what is LBJ's legacy? - death, failure, and wasteful programs that helped bankrupt the nation, which is exactly the road obama is on.
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The right hates to admit it but Obama will go down as one of the most successful presidents in history in terms of what he got done and where he came from. He'll be a case study for Poli Sci students for hundreds of years.
great point.
a black guy with the middle name "HUSSEIN" and a last name that rhymes with "OSAMA" manages to win the job, and enacts more impactful legislation than any single president in history... and he wasn't even born here.
He is seriously owning the shit out of repubs. You have to agree with that, even if you disagree with 100% of his policies. Passing whatever he wants, after destroying the war hero and the VPILF in the election. And he's STILL at 48% approval on Gallup... Geez...
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Why is it remotely impressive? The democrats control everything at the moment. I could have been elected President and passed whatever I wanted as well. But your slumping for this guy is starting to reach borderline infatuation, 240. The first thing that came to my mind when I just read that post of yours was how similar it is to the "tingle running up my leg" quote. :-X
Quick, better log a single Thune post for every 300+ Palin/Obama-worshiping posts you make so that you can claim that you're a conservative.
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Why is it remotely impressive? The democrats control everything at the moment. I could have been elected President and passed whatever I wanted as well. But your slumping for this guy is starting to reach borderline infatuation, 240. The first thing that came to my mind when I just read that post of yours was how similar it is to the "tingle running up my leg" quote. :-X
Quick, better log a single Thune post for every 300+ Palin/Obama-worshiping posts you make so that you can claim that you're a conservative.
240 = Julio. This was from when Obama went to Ft. Meyers in Feb. 2009. I believe 240 was there and that he might be Julio.
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great point.
a black guy with the middle name "HUSSEIN" and a last name that rhymes with "OSAMA" manages to win the job, and enacts more impactful legislation than any single president in history... and he wasn't even born here.
He is seriously owning the shit out of repubs. You have to agree with that, even if you disagree with 100% of his policies. Passing whatever he wants, after destroying the war hero and the VPILF in the election. And he's STILL at 48% approval on Gallup... Geez...
Not to mention the study of how he came from no where, mobilized millions of volunteers and drew massive crowds. The first grass roots volunteer based campaign that got a president elected. Amazing stuff really. Then he came in got health care reform, something dems have wanted since the 40's, and as such it'll never be repealed but only added to, to make it better.
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Also don't forget 240 Obama is very likable and has great public appeal. He hasn't slipped even more because of his likableness and his ability to engage mass audiences and mobilize thousands of people. Regardless of what his position is in the polls now, once he kicks his re-election campaign into high gear it'll be tough to match Obama-mania and the mass crowds and coverage he commands.
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Not to mention the study of how he came from no where, mobilized millions of volunteers and drew massive crowds. The first grass roots volunteer based campaign that got a president elected. Amazing stuff really. Then he came in got health care reform, something dems have wanted since the 40's, and as such it'll never be repealed but only added to, to make it better.
Truly embarassing. Honestly KC, sounds like the little kid opening up gifts thinking they arte from Santa Claus.
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Also don't forget 240 Obama is very likable and has great public appeal. He hasn't slipped even more because of his likableness and his ability to engage mass audiences and mobilize thousands of people. Regardless of what his position is in the polls now, once he kicks his re-election campaign into high gear it'll be tough to match Obama-mania and the mass crowds and coverage he commands.
There is another word for that KC - its called the cult of personality, which you, 240, blacken, and rest of the dupes have no clue you are so entrapped by.
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Hey, you all know that I disagree with most of obama's legislation. I didn't like healthcare, I didn't like finreg. I sure as hell dislike amnesty and cap/trade.
Clinton had 2 years of dem congress and didn't manage a fraction of the impactful legislation that obama has delivered.
(note that I am able to remove emotion from the argument, and not evaluate the legislation - rather, just how much influence/change the guy managed to implement in only 2 years).
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33,
if i was arguing "hey, this legislation rocks, dude!", that would be kneepadding.
I'm talking about from a social standpoint, from a historical study point... the guy might not have been born here, has a horrible name, is a minority with no experience, and manages to win over rove/mccain and clinton election machines. Then he gets in and passes more legislation than just about any president ever, in 2 years.
No matter if you love or hate obama - you have to agree it's unreal.
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Hey, you all know that I disagree with most of obama's legislation. I didn't like healthcare, I didn't like finreg. I sure as hell dislike amnesty and cap/trade.
Clinton had 2 years of dem congress and didn't manage a fraction of the impactful legislation that obama has delivered.
(note that I am able to remove emotion from the argument, and not evaluate the legislation - rather, just how much influence/change the guy managed to implement in only 2 years).
That's because the Dem party is now controlled by far left socialists willing to go off the cliff for the messiah.
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That's because the Dem party is now controlled by far left socialists willing to go off the cliff for the messiah.
in that case - obama is more convincing than clinton in terms of talking dems into risking their jobs for 'his vision'.
they're the most shrewd, crooked ppl on earth - and obama is talking them out of their jobs. pretty hard task.
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33,
if i was arguing "hey, this legislation rocks, dude!", that would be kneepadding.
I'm talking about from a social standpoint, from a historical study point... the guy might not have been born here, has a horrible name, is a minority with no experience, and manages to win over rove/mccain and clinton election machines. Then he gets in and passes more legislation than just about any president ever, in 2 years.
No matter if you love or hate obama - you have to agree it's unreal.
Its unreal that we have such an ignorant and uninformed populace that would applaud all of this garbage all in the name of white guilt out of fear of being called a racist. The MSM are the main perpetrators in this nonsense and actively manipulated the primaries to get this communist fraud elected over hillary and then McCain.
And then you have the legions of useful idiots like KC, Benny, Blacken, et al who bought into all the slogans, propaganda, lies, etc. Sad to say 240, many times I question whether you yourself are falling into this category.
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Truly embarassing. Honestly KC, sounds like the little kid opening up gifts thinking they arte from Santa Claus.
Embarrassing? How exactly? His story of how to get elected is a great study in politics of our time. You may hate him all you want. But it was still a great story of how he got to the white house.
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Embarrassing? How exactly? His story of how to get elected is a great study in politics of our time. You may hate him all you want. But it was still a great story of how he got to the white house.
Not really. Any candidate the Dems ran would have won. Obama was lucky enough to have the full backing of the MSM while the other democrat candidates didn't. Talk about awe-inspiring!
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Its unreal that we have such an ignorant and uninformed populace that would applaud all of this garbage all in the name of white guilt out of fear of being called a racist. The MSM are the main perpetrators in this nonsense and actively manipulated the primaries to get this communist fraud elected over hillary and then McCain.
And then you have the legions of useful idiots like KC, Benny, Blacken, et al who bought into all the slogans, propaganda, lies, etc. Sad to say 240, many times I question whether you yourself are falling into this category.
Okay, in that case we have to study WHO infiltrated the mainstream media, what their goal was, and why obama was selected. if you are correct, who is the invisible people/persons who converted the media from trustworthy fact champion, to marxist-agenda'd body, and when this happened and why.
Any ideas? Huge story there. However, without facts it sounds more like conspiracy theory.
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Embarrassing? How exactly? His story of how to get elected is a great study in politics of our time. You may hate him all you want. But it was still a great story of how he got to the white house.
Its a great story in how the population got fooled into supporting a puppet of Wall Street and got useful idiots and dupes to do their bidding.
Obama is the textbook Marxist/Communist and we have all been warned.
Watch this and realize how you bought into this KC - this fits you to a tee. Sad to say, I like you, but you are a useful idiot for communism and marxism and don't even realize it.
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Okay, in that case we have to study WHO infiltrated the mainstream media, what their goal was, and why obama was selected. if you are correct, who is the invisible people/persons who converted the media from trustworthy fact champion, to marxist-agenda'd body, and when this happened and why.
Any ideas? Huge story there. However, without facts it sounds more like conspiracy theory.
I posted a thread about it, read about whatt he MSM did to conceal obama's past.
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Not really. Any candidate the Dems ran would have won. Obama was lucky enough to have the full backing of the MSM while the other democrat candidates didn't. Talk about awe-inspiring!
::) I don't care what you think of him as a president but pre election NO ONE thought Obama would win, it was Hillary's to lose and no one had seen a grass roots movement quite like the one Obama managed to get. But hey talk about luck and everything else under the sun, fact is Obama's story will be studied for years in poli sci classes and the blueprint will be used for campaigns to come.
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::) I don't care what you think of him as a president but pre election NO ONE thought Obama would win, it was Hillary's to lose and no one had seen a grass roots movement quite like the one Obama managed to get. But hey talk about luck and everything else under the sun, fact is Obama's story will be studied for years in poli sci classes and the blueprint will be used for campaigns to come.
Again you dope, this could not have been accomplished but for the MSM smearing Hillary, Wall Street backing Obama, and the MSM and many other promient people doing everyrthing possible to conceal Obama's true past and record.
KC - look up useful idiot. most obama voters, not all, fall into this category.
Watch this and get a freaking clue.
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I posted a thread about it, read about whatt he MSM did to conceal obama's past.
why did FOX "play ball"?
Why are they talking about this race silliness and not his multiple SS numbers or birth cert?
I mean, one lady who admitted she abused her power - that is more important than an illigitmiate president?
Soooo is FOX complicit and therefore part of the MSM protecting him? Or are they just clueless?
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why did FOX "play ball"?
Why are they talking about this race silliness and not his multiple SS numbers or birth cert?
I mean, one lady who admitted she abused her power - that is more important than an illigitmiate president?
Soooo is FOX complicit and therefore part of the MSM protecting him? Or are they just clueless?
Fox News is not the only media.
Read the damn thread on Liberals calling Fox biased.
Wake up 240.
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why did FOX "play ball"?
Why are they talking about this race silliness and not his multiple SS numbers or birth cert?
I mean, one lady who admitted she abused her power - that is more important than an illigitmiate president?
Soooo is FOX complicit and therefore part of the MSM protecting him? Or are they just clueless?
FOX and talk radio are the ONLY ones who report anything negative against the all mighty Obama.The media still reports the stupid lies of the stimulus and jobs saved.How can anyone get through that web of lies.
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so why does FOX focus on silly issues like michelle's shoes or this firing -
when issues like presidential legitimacy are ignored?
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240 - think about this clip.
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Again you dope, this could not have been accomplished but for the MSM smearing Hillary, Wall Street backing Obama, and the MSM and many other promient people doing everyrthing possible to conceal Obama's true past and record.
KC - look up useful idiot. most obama voters, not all, fall into this category.
Watch this and get a freaking clue.
He acts like there's something more to it beyond the MSM fawning over him and smearing every other democratic candidate. Don't even need to mention the other stuff as the MSM dictated this entire election.
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There is something to it BF beyond the MSM. Wall Street financed Obama into office based on slogans and scams they knew would play to enough people to get him over the top. Not all obama voters are the same, and we discussed this, but enough voted for the first time based on these scams, ploys, and still don't understand the 3 card monte game they fell for.
BF - this is a perfect example of the hoax and change the media never called him on, and for which the useful dupes like KC and Blacken still fall for.
Obama's entire support rests on people not seeing reality for themselves and the MSM covering up for his lies.
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youre arguing about whether or not his policies are good and his actions are pure. I'm not.
I'm just saying it's incredible he has been able to accomplish as much as he has, and KC is right, they'll be studying it for hundreds of years.
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youre arguing about whether or not his policies are good and his actions are pure. I'm not.
I'm just saying it's incredible he has been able to accomplish as much as he has, and KC is right, they'll be studying it for hundreds of years.
Yeah, just like how people wonder how the Germans were so fooled by certain promises and propaganda about the trains running on time.
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youre arguing about whether or not his policies are good and his actions are pure. I'm not.
I'm just saying it's incredible he has been able to accomplish as much as he has, and KC is right, they'll be studying it for hundreds of years.
How is this amazin.He had fillabuster prrof majorities in the house and senate.Whats amazing about that?
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The right hates to admit it but Obama will go down as one of the most successful presidents in history in terms of what he got done and where he came from. He'll be a case study for Poli Sci students for hundreds of years.
Successful in who's eye's? The only thing he'll be a case study for are Sci Fi students because this is a nightmare.
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glenn beck had a great point... while all the idiots were arguing about this latest race issue, obama snuck this bill thru. even fox fell for it - this race story was #1 tonight, and the finreg bill was #3. Way to play into obama's hands.
beck also supposed the last great race debate (beer summitgate) was designed to take conservative eyes off healthcare as it heated up... i think he might be right.
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glenn beck had a great point... while all the idiots were arguing about this latest race issue, obama snuck this bill thru. even fox fell for it - this race story was #1 tonight, and the finreg bill was #3. Way to play into obama's hands.
beck also supposed the last great race debate (beer summitgate) was designed to take conservative eyes off healthcare as it heated up... i think he might be right.
QFT
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Like you give a damn about FINREG? I posted many threads on it and you never commented on any of them.