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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: lesaucer on September 28, 2010, 05:53:34 PM
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im thinking about never coming off, whats the point, having to deal with all the pct bullshit, psychological feeling like shit,losing mass etc etc...when all you have to do is shoot 1ml of test ew and everything is fine, topnotch.... only problem I can think of with this is if there is a world zombie invasion and you are one of the few survivor..and your test stack gets empty..then you're fucked.... but other than that even if you all you sources get busted or something you can still go to the doctor and he will prescribe you some test...
So who else here been thinking about that
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i was on for almost 5 years.....if i get back on i will not be comming off.....
off cycle=250-500mg of test a week...
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i was on for almost 5 years.....if i get back on i will not be comming off.....
off cycle=250-500mg of test a week...
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give me the reason why you dont stay on 250mg ew..everything would be stable, more test than normal, feel better, better sex, more mass, etcetc...without the sides like if you were on 1.5g... why dont you do this.. im just looking for reason not to do it basically I know you're a police so maybe cause of your job
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Are you planning on having kids?
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give me the reason why you dont stay on 250mg ew..everything would be stable, more test than normal, feel better, better sex, more mass, etcetc...without the sides like if you were on 1.5g... why dont you do this.. im just looking for reason not to do it basically I know you're a police so maybe cause of your job
If you're looking to be very active and successful as a bodybuilder, staying on yr round is pretty much a necessity these days. That doesn't mean short breaks off are going to hurt you but the majority of the time you'll be on.
During this time, sure, 200-250mg/wk of test will help you maintain what you have, help you stay in far better shape. If you're looking to compete, especially during your contest prep you're going to need to run more than just 250mg/wk of test to maintain your size and hardness in sub-normal body fat.
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not looking to be a competitive bodybuilder, I just wanna have a great physique...I have a great physique now im very very satisfied with the way I look now on 750mg test, 300mg eq, 350mg tren... of course we are never satisfied in this game so I will up the dose for sure in my future cycles... but this idea of staying on 250mg test all the time is not so much because of the mass loss but for the crash and all the health and psychological troubles concerning coming off I would not have...
TST yes I plan on having kids but dont care too much about it as of now... you think cruising on 250mg test instead of going completely off between cycles is going to fuck my shit up about having kids?
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Sounds like a great idea but there all some small risks. You hemogoblin levels will get pretty hard. Your rbc count can increase over a long peroid of time with exo. test injections. Whyn't take a couple of do a small pct and try some other things to keep you anabolic like igf-1 or sarms. I want my balls to work as long as possible considering im only 21. And I agree with you if some crazy shit happen.
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give me the reason why you dont stay on 250mg ew..everything would be stable, more test than normal, feel better, better sex, more mass, etcetc...without the sides like if you were on 1.5g... why dont you do this.. im just looking for reason not to do it basically I know you're a police so maybe cause of your job
thats the only reason....and they wont even test me for it....its just a moral thing.....cant play both sides of the fence..
and my cycles were more like "blast, and cruise" unless i was going into a contest.......so 1-3g's of test a week with various anabolics.....then go down to 250-50mg for cruising...
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I agree with makeveli you will definitely need to keep an eye on your hemoglobin levels...do you get regular blood work done? I was on an 8 month cycle and my hemoglobin was in the upper range...also steroids fuck with your cholesterol so you will need to keep an eye on that as well...staying on long heavy cycles resulting in high blood pressure and a faster pulse is not healthy so as long you monitor yourself you should be ok...it is possible you could hav difficulty having kids if you never come off
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I agree with makeveli you will definitely need to keep an eye on your hemoglobin levels...do you get regular blood work done? I was on an 8 month cycle and my hemoglobin was in the upper range...also steroids fuck with your cholesterol so you will need to keep an eye on that as well...staying on long heavy cycles resulting in high blood pressure and a faster pulse is not healthy so as long you monitor yourself you should be ok...it is possible you could hav difficulty having kids if you never come off
that was my only fear.....after the 5 year jaunt ended i had all test ran, and even got a sperm count...everything was good....i got a sperm count a year after everything was dropped and it was even better...
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Some guys arent as lucky...thats my biggest fear as well...thats why i like to take 8 months off between cycles
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Some guys arent as lucky...thats my biggest fear as well...thats why i like to take 8 months off between cycles
i never even had thinning hair....and i blasted 3g's of test a few times...
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I agree with makeveli you will definitely need to keep an eye on your hemoglobin levels...do you get regular blood work done? I was on an 8 month cycle and my hemoglobin was in the upper range...also steroids fuck with your cholesterol(try sytrinol/niacin/fish oil) so you will need to keep an eye on that as well...staying on long heavy cycles resulting in high blood pressure(Hawthorne/Baby aspirin/diet/reduce sodium/increase water intake) and a faster pulse is not healthy so as long you monitor yourself you should be ok...it is possible you could hav difficulty having kids if you never come off(maybe, maybe not, HMG/HCG) (bloodwork every six months)(Saw Palmetto for prostate health).
Just have to be smart.
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Ive used niacin and it barely did anything
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Ive used niacin and it barely did anything
Try Sytrinol, works well.
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Got to say I am pretty fortunate that I recover quickly when I come off and even shut down when on isn't all that apparent. Everything works, believe me I found out the hard way during a spell of me being on for well over 6 months.
Last blood work everything was normal or slightly elevated from the normal ranges, but nothing to be concerned about.
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im thinking about never coming off, whats the point, having to deal with all the pct bullshit, psychological feeling like shit,losing mass etc etc...when all you have to do is shoot 1ml of test ew and everything is fine, topnotch.... only problem I can think of with this is if there is a world zombie invasion and you are one of the few survivor..and your test stack gets empty..then you're fucked.... but other than that even if you all you sources get busted or something you can still go to the doctor and he will prescribe you some test...
So who else here been thinking about that
yes, but the pins might get to you in a few years
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I agree with makeveli you will definitely need to keep an eye on your hemoglobin levels...
Agree also. Make sure cholestrol and bp is good too. As long as your in line, no need to come off if you don't want to imo.
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Lesaucer is 20 years old. I think you guys are way off base telling a 20 year old to never come off. His body needs recovery time, and if he wants to have children someday, recovery is very important.
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Lesaucer is 20 years old. I think you guys are way off base telling a 20 year old to never come off. His body needs recovery time, and if he wants to have children someday, recovery is very important.
I agree. Didn't realize he was that young.
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I agree. Didn't realize he was that young.
AJ I know you and I know your advice. I wasn't rreferring to you as I know you wouldn't condone this at that age.
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be smart Lesaucer, don't fuck yourself up like I did
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be smart Lesaucer, don't fuck yourself up like I did
what happened to you?
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what happened to you?
nothing I am just pretty irresponsible with my own use
"do as I say, not as I so" defines me well
time will tell when I will want to have kids :-\
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I was speaking in general. If someones 20 and wants to have kids one day they should know better. But in the end its their life. Lots of guys stay on from teen years. To me I wouldnt even use until 30s.
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nothing I am just pretty irresponsible with my own use
"do as I say, not as I so" defines me well
time will tell when I will want to have kids :-\
Don't sweat it, plenty of ppl have kids on and off gear. Chick just wrote in one of his posts that he knocked up his wife while he was on and he was close to 40.
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BUMP..
Then how come MANY IFBB PROS had kids while on the peak or the end of their career?
Victor, Marcus, shawn and many other TOP guys have kids..
HOW?
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20 Y/O.... and staying on ::) ::)
Sorry I value my natural HPTA and I'm 24.
To each their own.
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20 Y/O.... and staying on ::) ::)
Sorry I value my natural HPTA and I'm 24.
To each their own.
im off now but only because I wanted to see what going off was. So far PCT sides are; lethargy feeling that I counter with ECA, less libido (ALOT lot lot lot less), some acne, 10 pounds loss in weight but thats because of water loss+i started cutting
I decided to get ripped before my next cycle, I know its a bad idea to start cutting right after a cycle but I wanna start the next cycle very lean cause test+deca+dbol is gonna bloat me up a bit so I dont wanna look too fat. Right now I can see my abs pretty well and as soon as I see my abs and shoulders veins without having to pump them up, im starting my next cycle..which should be in like one month.. started dieting and taking ECA 2 weeks ago and jesus its crazy how im getting shredded fast
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Keep the weights heavy
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im off now but only because I wanted to see what going off was. So far PCT sides are; lethargy feeling that I counter with ECA, less libido (ALOT lot lot lot less), some acne, 10 pounds loss in weight but thats because of water loss+i started cutting
I decided to get ripped before my next cycle, I know its a bad idea to start cutting right after a cycle but I wanna start the next cycle very lean cause test+deca+dbol is gonna bloat me up a bit so I dont wanna look too fat. Right now I can see my abs pretty well and as soon as I see my abs and shoulders veins without having to pump them up, im starting my next cycle..which should be in like one month.. started dieting and taking ECA 2 weeks ago and jesus its crazy how im getting shredded fast
IMO, if you use AAS, dieting without AAS makes no sense...I've never understood why some people do this.
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IMO, if you use AAS, dieting without AAS makes no sense...I've never understood why some people do this.
hmmmmmm..lose some fat..lose some muscle too, but get it back in not even 3 weeks when on?
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hmmmmmm..lose some fat..lose some muscle too, but get it back in not even 3 weeks when on?
If you diet for any length of time, lets say you're not on anything, once you get back on cycle the muscle you lost is not going to come back in a matter of wks...doesn't work that way. A lot of people equate weight gain to muscle tissue and a little water when truth be told it's a lot more water than they realize. You don't always see all the water in terms of bloat so people automatically assume the weight gain is muscle tissue.
2nd thing, if you want to get actually ripped, being "ON" makes that so much more possible.
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If you diet for any length of time, lets say you're not on anything, once you get back on cycle the muscle you lost is not going to come back in a matter of wks...doesn't work that way. A lot of people equate weight gain to muscle tissue and a little water when truth be told it's a lot more water than they realize. You don't always see all the water in terms of bloat so people automatically assume the weight gain is muscle tissue.
2nd thing, if you want to get actually ripped, being "ON" makes that so much more possible.
okay thanks buddy, but I never equate the scale weight gain to muscle tissue gain, I judge everything with what I see in the mirror.
No shit being 'on' is gonna get me ripped faster, better and bigger, lol. but dont worry, now is the very last time in my life that ill be 'off'... its a pain in the ass for nothing. pretty sure its worse for my body to unbalance hormones by going off and take all these pct shits than to just cruise on some test between cycles.
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okay thanks buddy, but I never equate the scale weight gain to muscle tissue gain, I judge everything with what I see in the mirror.
No shit being 'on' is gonna get me ripped faster, better and bigger, lol. but dont worry, now is the very last time in my life that ill be 'off'... its a pain in the ass for nothing. pretty sure its worse for my body to unbalance hormones by going off and take all these pct shits than to just cruise on some test between cycles.
ask the guy in your avatar if he "cruised" or not.
As i have read you are not competing and want to "stay on" forever? spend the next "few" decades thinking about your next "cycle", spending money on drugs of questionable quality, pinning yourself in the bathroom while your parents and brothers sisters are eatting dinner and "waiting" for you ? and youre 20, thats pretty stupid.
Im 21-22 myself and competing, im seriously thinking of comming off a lot of months....not only for my own health but for the longevity in this sport. i want to clear my mind from "juicing" and worrying if i wake up one day in pain and rushed to hosspital
For how long will you "pin" your asscheeks and living in all this agony of whats going on inside you? you might look good from the outside but from the inside its the opposite.
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i prefer sitting those 6 months and actually STOCKING on goodies....then i will blow up again and shock the cuunts in the gym who will laugh at the size i will lose...it will make them feell good i know lol :D..i know i look good either on or off. it has to stop one day. i cant be "living the dream" forever.
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ECA is king for fat loss.
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People don't realize what this shit does to your arteries and blood vessals...long periods of time with fucked up cholesterol and high blood pressure...it definitely will put u in a higher risk later on in your life...it definitely builds up plaque much faster than if your never used...
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ask the guy in your avatar if he "cruised" or not.
As i have read you are not competing and want to "stay on" forever? spend the next "few" decades thinking about your next "cycle", spending money on drugs of questionable quality, pinning yourself in the bathroom while your parents and brothers sisters are eatting dinner and "waiting" for you ? and youre 20, thats pretty stupid.
Im 21-22 myself and competing, im seriously thinking of comming off a lot of months....not only for my own health but for the longevity in this sport. i want to clear my mind from "juicing" and worrying if i wake up one day in pain and rushed to hosspital
For how long will you "pin" your asscheeks and living in all this agony of whats going on inside you? you might look good from the outside but from the inside its the opposite.
wow relax and take your pills. competing or not who give a fuck, I do this for myself only, not to expose my body in a thong to homos to win a plastic trophy. I live alone, no family waiting for me to pin my ass before eating, stop thinking whats happening in your shitty life happens also to other guys of your age.
Gear is only a little support for me to enjoy life as much as possible, if I can feel better psychologically, look better physically, be stronger, without any sides, only by shooting some oils in my ass a few times a week before going to sleep, why not do it ?
The gym+gear is only a hobby for me, the only things I really care about and will spend the next decades thinking about is 1.my family 2.my career 3.friends. Feel free to 'focus' on winning the war on stage in a thong with homos cracking one off in the audience if you want, and 'impress' the bros at your gym by blowing up after being small for 6 months, who will only tell to each others in your back: that guy's only know how to use a needle,fuck this dude
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No side effects? How often do you even get blood work done? Do you even know what your lipid profile numbers are? Never coming off at your age is a disaster waiting to happen...some people will never know how to put hardwork in naturally and need to rely on steroids because they are soft...if your competing its a different story...I'm your age also and if you value your natural testosterone output, you'll come off and go back to normal
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Staying on has advantages and disadvantages, a personal choice that depends upon what you place value in.. (in a lot of cases the decision boils down to the age old "quantity vs quality" in regards to quality of life vs. Duration of life)
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deep thread. :'(
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http://www.probodybuilding.com/articles/probodybuilding-editorials/the-truth.php
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wow relax and take your pills. competing or not who give a fuck, I do this for myself only, not to expose my body in a thong to homos to win a plastic trophy. I live alone, no family waiting for me to pin my ass before eating, stop thinking whats happening in your shitty life happens also to other guys of your age.
Gear is only a little support for me to enjoy life as much as possible, if I can feel better psychologically, look better physically, be stronger, without any sides, only by shooting some oils in my ass a few times a week before going to sleep, why not do it ?
The gym+gear is only a hobby for me, the only things I really care about and will spend the next decades thinking about is 1.my family 2.my career 3.friends. Feel free to 'focus' on winning the war on stage in a thong with homos cracking one off in the audience if you want, and 'impress' the bros at your gym by blowing up after being small for 6 months, who will only tell to each others in your back: that guy's only know how to use a needle,fuck this dude
maybe youre the one that should take your "pills" and "injectables".
Post your "physique", let the world see the results of "staying on". ::)
do your parents know? or they give you money to study while youre making "sources" even richer.
jesus christ...i wasnt attacking you in my post, i was just trying to give you example of whats going on irl. i wont put a knife on your throat to "come off" y know, its none of my bussiness. but if you have doctors by your side and gurus telling you exactly what to do (probably not), then its probably ok. good luck.
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maybe youre the one that should take your "pills" and "injectables".
Post your "physique", let the world see the results of "staying on". ::)
do your parents know? or they give you money to study while youre making "sources" even richer.
jesus christ...i wasnt attacking you in my post, i was just trying to give you example of whats going on irl. i wont put a knife on your throat to "come off" y know, its none of my bussiness. but if you have doctors by your side and gurus telling you exactly what to do (probably not), then its probably ok. good luck.
im not even 'on' now just finished my first cycle one month ago and testing out how well I can recuperate from a cycle and get everything back to normal. anyway why do you always try to bring my family into this why dont you stfu and talk about the topic? As I said everybody doesnt have the same problems as you, if you have to beg your parents for money to buy a vial of test thats your problem, some guys actually work hard..
and for the pic I already posted pics of myself when i was natural a while ago here but I can post recent pics too if you do as well and own your ass!
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im not even 'on' now just finished my first cycle one month ago and testing out how well I can recuperate from a cycle and get everything back to normal. anyway why do you always try to bring my family into this why dont you stfu and talk about the topic? As I said everybody doesnt have the same problems as you, if you have to beg your parents for money to buy a vial of test thats your problem, some guys actually work hard..
and for the pic I already posted pics of myself when i was natural a while ago here but I can post recent pics too if you do as well and own your ass!
Seriously, if you want to go pro, stay on. If you want to have a good physique, cycle, unless you have absolute shit genetics, kill yourself :D
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Seriously, if you want to go pro, stay on. If you want to have a good physique, cycle, unless you have absolute shit genetics, kill yourself :D
ill probably try going pro one day if I have nothing else to do but not now! you need lots of money for the GH+tons of aas and I dont wanna do dirty shit or live in a dump and do lots of sacrifice to get it (steve namat). gotta have my degree first most important objective and start making money and then we'll see if the motivation is there. Got awesome genetics, great physique even when off thats not a problem lol. When Im talking about staying on its not on 1g year round, im talking about cruising on 250mg test a week just to avoid the bullshit of going completely off.
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ill probably try going pro one day if I have nothing else to do but not now! you need lots of money for the GH+tons of aas and I dont wanna do dirty shit or live in a dump and do lots of sacrifice to get it (steve namat). gotta have my degree first most important objective and start making money and then we'll see if the motivation is there. Got awesome genetics, great physique even when off thats not a problem lol. When Im talking about staying on its not on 1g year round, im talking about cruising on 250mg test a week just to avoid the bullshit of going completely off.
lol!! ok ok.....why didnt you already mention that in couple posts before? we got it now. youre delusional. ::) :D
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lol!! ok ok.....why didnt you already mention that in couple posts before? we got it now. youre delusional. ::) :D
sure why dont you post your pics so I can compare myself to you, Mr. I can use as much aas I want because I compete...post yours and ill post mine
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im not even 'on' now just finished my first cycle one month ago and testing out how well I can recuperate from a cycle and get everything back to normal. anyway why do you always try to bring my family into this why dont you stfu and talk about the topic? As I said everybody doesnt have the same problems as you, if you have to beg your parents for money to buy a vial of test thats your problem, some guys actually work hard..
and for the pic I already posted pics of myself when i was natural a while ago here but I can post recent pics too if you do as well and own your ass!
Nevermind, just found the "pic".
Shitty genetics, that explains the "need" for drugs....
Yes youre natural here, no "doubt". I can imagine you on your "cycle".... ::) a bloated fucking mess lol!! haha
youre helpless. as for how i look, PM sevastase to give you a link, he knows how i look.
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pm sev or tbombz to tell you how i look. they have my facebook profile plus recent pics of me and IM FOR REAL.
i wont try to disagree with you anymore, and whenever you need help i will post in your thread, i have no prob at all wil you...you seem like a good poster and i was just trying to help you, not to insult you.
sometimes theres a fine line between use and ADDICTION. i got addicted to peds, you will get addicted and many more guys in here, good posters, would agree that roids, as all drugs, as addictive.
good luck man.
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Nevermind, just found the "pic".
Shitty genetics, that explains the "need" for drugs....
Yes youre natural here, no "doubt". I can imagine you on your "cycle".... ::) a bloated fucking mess lol!! haha
youre helpless. as for how i look, PM sevastase to give you a link, he knows how i look.
congrats that was me at 18-19 on creatine and 5k calories diet. heres me now 1 year later, clean
(http://i55.tinypic.com/1zqyf4g.jpg)
heres my bloated fucking mess of a stomach
(http://i53.tinypic.com/23ucyac.jpg)
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congrats that was me at 18-19 on creatine and 5k calories diet. heres me now 1 year later, clean
(http://i55.tinypic.com/1zqyf4g.jpg)
heres my bloated fucking mess of a stomach
(http://i53.tinypic.com/23ucyac.jpg)
looking good man.
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just took these just for you, now post yours so we can see who is this bodybuilding king we are speaking to. I know you have good wheels i saw them before
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pm sev or tbombz to tell you how i look. they have my facebook profile plus recent pics of me and IM FOR REAL.
i wont try to disagree with you anymore, and whenever you need help i will post in your thread, i have no prob at all wil you...you seem like a good poster and i was just trying to help you, not to insult you.
sometimes theres a fine line between use and ADDICTION. i got addicted to peds, you will get addicted and many more guys in here, good posters, would agree that roids, as all drugs, as addictive.
good luck man.
thanks for your help. disagree with me all you want as long as you have good arguments. and dont worry im not addicted to roids, at least not yet.lol. Otherwise I would be shooting up right now instead of being 'off'. im feeling very good in and out of the gym with or without aas. only things that suck are the BIG libido decrease and acne from pct, luckily I dont have any in my face.
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thanks for your help. disagree with me all you want as long as you have good arguments. and dont worry im not addicted to roids, at least not yet.lol. Otherwise I would be shooting up right now instead of being 'off'. im feeling very good in and out of the gym with or without aas. only things that suck are the BIG libido decrease and acne from pct, luckily I dont have any in my face.
me too lol
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looking good man.
are you fucking kidding me? I have seen Meso pics before and he destroys you Leasucker.
LEsacuer friend you are clearly dellusional if you think you have great genetics. Cocky as well. I have always been extremely humble with my physique because unless your 220 lean at 5 10 I think you are not worth wearing a tanktop in public IMO. Not saying I have those stats right now but I looked as good if not better than you at 17 years old on 2 amps of test per week and alwyas thought my genetics were average at best. IF you have pro genetics I am the next Kevin levrone.
so I guess some people really are dellusional:) also is annoying the fact you ran test and dbol like one time and are telling people about gh insulin and a ton of compounds you never tried.
"ECA GH t3 CLEN PROVIRON LETO LASIX TIGHTNESS RIGHT THERE"
Lesaucer
you havent even dieted before and are talking about Lasix ,only on getbig
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are you fucking kidding me? I have seen Meso pics before and he destroys you Leasucker.
LEsacuer friend you are clearly dellusional if you think you have great genetics. Cocky as well. I have always been extremely humble with my physique because unless your 220 lean at 5 10 I think you are not worth wearing a tanktop in public IMO. Not saying I have those stats right now but I looked as good if not better than you at 17 years old on 2 amps of test per week and alwyas thought my genetics were average at best. IF you have pro genetics I am the next Kevin levrone.
so I guess some people really are dellusional:) also is annoying the fact you ran test and dbol like one time and are telling people about gh insulin and a ton of compounds you never tried.
"ECA GH t3 CLEN PROVIRON LETO LASIX TIGHTNESS RIGHT THERE"
Lesaucer
you havent even dieted before and are talking about Lasix ,only on getbig
no no its ok now, we solved the arguement with pms.. :) its cool. 8)
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haha flinstone what a tard. Of course I knew meso destroyed me, I already knew he was on for 2 years straight and was competing..it was just to start shit for fun and see a pic of him (no homo)...never said I had levrone genetics but it makes me think I have good ones when I compare to other guys at my gym older and on the sauce too.. I am faaar from cocky I know im nothing compared to some people and I never wear tanktops in public lol. except at the gym.
Also congrats for looking better than me at 17 on 2 test amps. you want a cookie?
That post of me was not serious, damn what an idiot you are, do you really think im serious when I accuse a 7yo that she takes lasix because she have a 6 pack? lmaaaooo.
Show me where im telling people about gh+slin
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I know flinstones in real life, and he has you beat by miles lessaucer..not to belittle you or anything dude, but i'm just saying..
I think flinstones was just comparing himself to you because you and him (and me) are basically around the same age and have the same juice experience/history (more or less) and you wrote about how you have a great physqiue and how your responding great to roids when he doesnt consider himself anything remotely good yet and he has you beat by miles.
But whatever dude, we are still young and barely on the tip of the iceberg still. I know that I still have to put in alot more time/training/ juice/food into it before I can call myself anything good..and I already beat most of kids my age, but it doesnt make me good.
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I know flinstones in real life, and he has you beat by miles lessaucer..not to belittle you or anything dude, but i'm just saying..
I think flinstones was just comparing himself to you because you and him (and me) are basically around the same age and have the same juice experience/history (more or less) and you wrote about how you have a great physqiue and how your responding great to roids when he doesnt consider himself anything remotely good yet and he has you beat by miles.
But whatever dude, we are still young and barely on the tip of the iceberg still. I know that I still have to put in alot more time/training/ juice/food into it before I can call myself anything good..and I already beat most of kids my age, but it doesnt make me good.
I dont care if he beat me by miles man tons of guys beat me I know that. sorry if i said i had a good physique.. I didnt knew you all would get all estrogenic and panic over this like if i said that I was the bodybuilding king or something.
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What is this a fucking dick swinging contest? Stay on topic
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What is this a fucking dick swinging contest? Stay on topic
;D
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What is this a fucking dick swinging contest? Stay on topic
I had a dream your gonna be a future mod at some point. ;D ;D ;D
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are you fucking kidding me? I have seen Meso pics before and he destroys you Leasucker.
LEsacuer friend you are clearly dellusional if you think you have great genetics. Cocky as well. I have always been extremely humble with my physique because unless your 220 lean at 5 10 I think you are not worth wearing a tanktop in public IMO. Not saying I have those stats right now but I looked as good if not better than you at 17 years old on 2 amps of test per week and alwyas thought my genetics were average at best. IF you have pro genetics I am the next Kevin levrone.
so I guess some people really are dellusional:) also is annoying the fact you ran test and dbol like one time and are telling people about gh insulin and a ton of compounds you never tried.
"ECA GH t3 CLEN PROVIRON LETO LASIX TIGHTNESS RIGHT THERE"
Lesaucer
you havent even dieted before and are talking about Lasix ,only on getbig
Outed. :-X
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BUMP!!
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balding & cholesterol levels would be my concern as I still have a full head of hair and my HDL levels are naturally always low...
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What is your hdl naturally? I just got mine checked and it was 50
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What is your hdl naturally? I just got mine checked and it was 50
mine stays in the mid 20's very bad....
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Shit mine was at 25 on the 7th month of my cycle
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Shit mine was at 25 on the 7th month of my cycle
dude tell me about it...I'm at very high risk for heart disease and Im a natural...never even fucked with gear and my levels are terrible...doc said its genetic...I have been taking fish oil,flax oil,krill oil,cooking everything in olive oil haha I'm oiled the fuck out!..I go back in 3 months to see if taking all that makes a difference b 4 I have to go on prescription shit...It's actually one of the main reasons I haven't did a cycle because my levels are fucked to Begin with:(...
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shit....i had 25 too... what are the risks? :-\
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Were you natural when you got your blood work?
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Were you natural when you got your blood work?
no..
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If your numbers were like that when you were natural I would be much more concerned...I mean that shit is bad for your blood vessels but you are young...check your levels again after you come off...I'm sure you will be back to normal in no time...my hdl went from 25 to 50 in a month after coming off
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If your numbers were like that when you were natural I would be much more concerned...I mean that shit is bad for your blood vessels but you are young...check your levels again after you come off...I'm sure you will be back to normal in no time...my hdl went from 25 to 50 in a month after coming off
Yea I'm a lifetime natural (mid thirties)and the highest my HDL has ever been was 32...Like I said I'm takin everything I can to try and raise it...In three months I go back for a recheck if it's still low Im fucked...
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Your not fucked because your actually keeping track of it...you will most likely need meds but who fuckin cares what you take as long as your healthy...too many guys have no fuckin clue what's goin on inside their bodies until its too late
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i used to be a natural but i started juicing this year, around early summer. I've had blood work done before and after my cycle. I'm in perfect health. cheers!
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Shit I'm 21 and iv been juicing on and off for 6 years..
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Shit I'm 21 and iv been juicing on and off for 6 years..
from 15?! :o
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Yea but when I was 15 I took a 5 week cycle of anavar..same with 16..took test and deca when I was 17 for football
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Shit I'm 21 and iv been juicing on and off for 6 years..
shhhiiiiiiitt!!! :o
I cant wait to have lots of years under my belt, I'd look sick as shit.
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shhhiiiiiiitt!!! :o
I cant wait to have lots of years under my belt, I'd look sick as shit.
Absolutely untrue.
You'll look sick from consistency, training and from your body maturing. I can be bigger clean now than I was at 22 when juicing and competing, and I don't take more now, I take LESS.
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solid diet, injury free yr round week in week out training and gear will produce sick results,,, alot of guys i know look worse when they start to juice, as they dont eat or train properly when they come off
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Agreed a hundred percent.
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solid diet, injury free yr round week in week out training and gear will produce sick results,,, alot of guys i know look worse when they start to juice, as they dont eat or train properly when they come off
what if someone continues to eat clean...in fact even cleaner than when "on"... to avoid as much as possible unnecessary fat deposit? i think its beneficial in the long run.
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what if someone continues to eat clean...in fact even cleaner than when "on"... to avoid as much as possible unnecessary fat deposit? i think its beneficial in the long run.
Of course it is. I don't understand the question. Clean eating is always best.