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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on November 04, 2010, 04:58:43 AM
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dianabol - Good or bad?
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good
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good
never had any issues with - kidneys/stomache/other internal organs?
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Great - make you feel pumped as hell. Strong too. Its good stuff.
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i only hated the moon face. glad i dont do juice anymore.
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(http://www.bodybuilding-magazin.de/bodybuilding-forum/download/file.php?id=774)
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never had any issues with - kidneys/stomache/other internal organs?
that like asking someone who has a beer on occasion..........if they had to have cirrohsis of the liver
or someone who smokes the occasional cigar.............if they had lung cancer
when you abuse something.........and i mean REALLY abuse something..........for example, take hand fulls of dianabol nonstop for 2 decades...........thats when you might POSSIBLY get into trouble.........and even then, you still probably wont hurt yourself
in short, taking dianabol for a cycle of 8 or 10 weeks will not hurt you
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Great - make you feel pumped as hell. Strong too. Its good stuff.
x2..pumps to painfull at times though
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x2..pumps to painfull at times though
So your whole body is a blue-vein throbber?
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So your whole body is a blue-vein throbber?
..........tell me more
slurp :-* :-*
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..........tell me more
slurp :-* :-*
;D
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Ask Sev, he has done up to 150-200mg of Naposim ed, and he is still alive.
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Ask Sev, he has done up to 150-200mg of Naposim ed, and he is still alive.
And has the muscle to show for it
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The first time I used it...(Pharma grade, Naposim) 3 days later my chest looked like b-cups...not gyno, it just swelled my chest up so over the next couple days I'd sit in the mirror doing various chest poses laughing at the swelling in joy as I had finally had a decent chest...lol...it was pretty awesome...I don't like that it gave me bad lower back pains though...other than that..."Breakfast of Champions" as they call it
I never went over 50mg ed for 4 weeks...incredible stuff my body reacted to it really well.
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And has the muscle to show for it
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what has everyone's doses been?
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got some liquid dbol lying around... the cristals are floating around in it... haven't used it... wonder how that stuffs like...
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It's awesome if you are pretty lean to begin with. If you are carrying any water or excessive bodyfat you will bloat up and look like shit.
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30mg/day broken up into morning noon and night dose of 10mg each. Ran it for anywhere from 4-8 weeks to kick off a cycle. Good way to get a cycle off to a quick start but as monotherapy it won't do much on its own.
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what has everyone's doses been?
10 mg-20 Mg was enough for me..That's with injectables of course.
Stark are you considering using Oral steroids?
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And has the muscle to show for it
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start lifting weights before you take steroids Nico
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gained 4lbs a week for almost a month. Great water retention and strength gains.
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Its awesome as long as you're not fat. I'm lean as heck and get no bloating. Even when I'm less lean there's little water retention.
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As others have said, dbol is part of the bread and butter stack a lot of people use. Highly effective, some bloat if you are carrying fat, not bad if you are lean. If you want to avoid bloat completely, t-bol is a good alternative with similar gains, minus the moon face. Difficult to find though (quality wise), so most just stick with dbol which are very easy to get.
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test + dbol is best cycle
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(http://www.bodybuilding-magazin.de/bodybuilding-forum/download/file.php?id=774)
Lord, please help this boy.
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never had any "incredible" results from it, even at high dose
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never had any "incredible" results from it, even at high dose
LOL You say that about everything; GH gave u no results, DBol gave u no reslults - where have you gotten your results from, hard work and dedication? ::)
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great oral, personally it doesnt bloat me at all, it gives me a pumped look and i actually look leaner lol
strange.
the bad thing are the back pumps.
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never had any "incredible" results from it, even at high dose
I think you need a new source bro =)
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i wish i knew where to find some dbol id eat them like m&m's like arnold used to do. id then tell people its just that i had 'been working out real hard lately'
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i wish i knew where to find some dbol id eat them like m&m's like arnold used to do. id then tell people its just that i had 'been working real hard lately'
PM...Big Ach He can hook you up with some
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PM...Big Ach He can hook you up with some
hello officer!
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dianabol - Good or bad?
I took it in 2004. Nothing works as well as it except Hemogenin. Of all the steroids I've tried, it was the only one that worked in real time. I remember one day I took 50 mg and I was literally bigger with rounder muscles by the end of the day. Incredible. Also, it makes you feel good with lot of energy to train. Hemogenin works great, but it gives you brutal headaches and makes you feel drowsy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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what was the stack you were on that allowed you to snap the german shepard's spine? ;D
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what was the stack you were on that allowed you to snap the german shepard's spine? ;D
Hahah ;D
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great stuff. swell up your muscles and you get a really big pump while training. zero sides except nosebleeds but I was abusing and taking too much. stopped as soon as I lowered the dose. I you control estrogen you wont get much bloat/moon face
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Back in the day,15mgs. of legit CIBA D-Bol would get me strong as hell and added a lot of size to boot.
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what was the stack you were on that allowed you to snap the german shepard's spine? ;D
LMFAO
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dbol is by far the best steroid ever for bb
great cycle even by itself
I did 100 mg a day for 5-6 weeks after which it plateaus
I tried 200 mg a day days ..but you start “feeling“ it at that dosage
my cycles in the past 10 years were dbol alone
100 a day ..sometimes 150 a day ... naposim only
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The only dbol i have ever tried was the old Russian tab's with the black lettering on the 10 strip pack, everyone i talked to seemed to love it,
But it gave me headaches from hell and bad stomachache's
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Dbol sucks. Its good if you want some gyno
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LOL You say that about everything; GH gave u no results, DBol gave u no reslults - where have you gotten your results from, hard work and dedication? ::)
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No, I have always said Testosterone, trenbolone and Superdrol made the biggest change on my physique.
And insulin can make my weight go pretty heavy too, but smooth looking
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hahaha i sooo knew you would post that pic but was not on dbol that time ...i just was fat but natural
here i am on dbol
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No, I have always said Testosterone, trenbolone and Superdrol made the biggest change on my physique.
And insulin can make my weight go pretty heavy too, but smooth looking
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Superdrol was the most toxic shit i ever tried. I thought my liver was going to fall off after using that for 4 weeks to kick start a cycle.
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Superdrol was the most toxic shit i ever tried. I thought my liver was going to fall off after using that for 4 weeks to kick start a cycle.
I used it only for 4 weeks at 30 mg per day and I didn't feel anything bad but it gave me a great look
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Naposim rules:
http://www.ergo-log.com/naposim.html (http://www.ergo-log.com/naposim.html)
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I used it only for 4 weeks at 30 mg per day and I didn't feel anything bad but it gave me a great look
which brand name was the original "superdrol"?
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Pink thais are the best. 30-50mgs a day with a gram of test a week makes you feel like god.
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which brand name was the original "superdrol"?
I used the original which was "designer Supplements" brand.
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which brand name was the original "superdrol"?
I don't know, I used a clone !
it was fucked up
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Pink thais are the best. 30-50mgs a day with a gram of test a week makes you feel like god.
No way. Pink thais are shit. I've used from three different sources and they all were shit methyltest or fake. THey are hit and miss. Jelfa Metanabol and Danabol are the best going right now.
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Its awesome as long as you're not fat. I'm lean as heck and get no bloating. Even when I'm less lean there's little water retention.
I was lean, under 10% BF when I used it and bloated like a pig. It all depends on estro conversion which is usually high with and androgenic steroid as such.
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No way. Pink thais are shit. I've used from three different sources and they all were shit methyltest or fake. THey are hit and miss. Jelfa Metanabol and Danabol are the best going right now.
How are those jelfas ??
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dianabol - Good or bad?
Give yourself to the dark side!
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(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0912/bodybuilding-bodybuilding-women-strong-demotivational-poster-1260494750.jpg)
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Give yourself to the dark side!
I might - who knows
Any record of hairloss?
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No way. Pink thais are shit. I've used from three different sources and they all were shit methyltest or fake. THey are hit and miss. Jelfa Metanabol and Danabol are the best going right now.
The pinks used to be awesome in the 90's
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The pinks used to be awesome in the 90's
I use some in 2002 and they were good then too. I only tried dbol twice but it was awesome both times.
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I remember when I used to get thousands mailed to me. They would all be individually stuck to a CD like object with 2 sided tape. You could pack 5 thousand in what looked like a 5 pack (1000 to each disc) CD/DVD case, so it was a relatively small package.
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Probably my favorite steroid behind good old test.
30-50mg a day is plenty for anyone to get solid gains from.
If you take dbol for an extended period of time just watch your BP. I've taken dbol for up to 8 months straight with no problems.
Still have a few hundred Danabols somewhere, good stuff.
8)
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What is the point of using steroids if all your gains disappear as soon as you stop taking them? And you can't take them for more than a couple of months at once due to the health issues. To quote Greg Zulak from his old Q&A in MuscleMag:
"Steroids are borrowed muscle. It is a bargain with the the devil: you get muscles in exchange for your health and you will only keep getting muscles for as long as you hold up to your side of the deal with the devil by giving your health in exchange for the muscles. As soon as the deal is of, your muscles evaporate and the muscle you are left with is the one you got through hard training."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I remember when I used to get thousands mailed to me. They would all be individually stuck to a CD like object with 2 sided tape. You could pack 5 thousand in what looked like a 5 pack (1000 to each disc) CD/DVD case, so it was a relatively small package.
That's right. That brings back memories ;D
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What is the point of using steroids if all your gains disappear as soon as you stop taking them? And you can't take them for more than a couple of months at once due to the health issues. To quote Greg Zulak from his old Q&A in MuscleMag:
"Steroids are borrowed muscle. It is a bargain with the the devil: you get muscles in exchange for your health and you will only keep getting muscles for as long as you hold up to your side of the deal with the devil by giving your health in exchange for the muscles. As soon as the deal is of, your muscles evaporate and the muscle you are left with is the one you got through hard training."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
your oversimplifying......... its not a zero sum thing where your gains dissapper the minute you stop taking shit
if you go on for 3 months, and put on 20 lbs............assuming you keep your diet and training right, your not just going lose 20 lbs of muscel when you go off
if you go off for an extended period of time.........you will soften up a little and lose 7...........but that still over 10 lbs up from where you started
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your oversimplifying......... its not a zero sum thing where your gains dissapper the minute you stop taking shit
if you go on for 3 months, and put on 20 lbs............assuming you keep your diet and training right, your not just going lose 20 lbs of muscel when you go off
if you go off for an extended period of time.........you will soften up a little and lose 7...........but that still over 10 lbs up from where you started
I would say that even with hard training over 95% of the gains you make on steroids go away. Yes, it might not happen in one week after you stop taking them, but eventually 95% of it goes away. The muscle gains done while on steroids are not permanent. It might take one week, one months or three months, but eventuually it all goes away. And you can't be on steroids forever. You can't. The guys who tried, like Tom Prince and Flex Wheeler paid the price with permanent organ damage.
SUUCKMYMUSCLE
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lot of blanket statements & assumptions going on here from some...
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I would say that even with hard training over 95% of the gains you make on steroids go away. Yes, it might not happen in one week after you stop taking them, but eventually 95% of it goes away. The muscle gains done while on steroids are not permanent. It might take one week, one months or three months, but eventuually it all goes away. And you can't be on steroids forever. You can't. The guys who tried, like Tom Prince and Flex Wheeler paid the price with permanent organ damage.
SUUCKMYMUSCLE
once again, your oversimplifying badly
but whatever, convince yourself of whatever you need to
steroids arent for everyone
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once again, your oversimplifying badly
but whatever, convince yourself of whatever you need to
steroids arent for everyone
So you're saying that if you go on a mass stack of hemogenin, testosterone, trenbolone and nandrole and gain 50 lbs of lean muscle and then you stop taking it, you will keep most of your gains indefinitely by just working out and eating right? If you believe this, then you're a fool dude.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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A competitive bbuilder I know, when asked by gym rats tells people to avoid it as it messes up their stomach.
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your oversimplifying......... its not a zero sum thing where your gains dissapper the minute you stop taking shit
if you go on for 3 months, and put on 20 lbs............assuming you keep your diet and training right, your not just going lose 20 lbs of muscel when you go off
if you go off for an extended period of time.........you will soften up a little and lose 7...........but that still over 10 lbs up from where you started
That is true to some extent, lets say for the first or the second cycle, but after those, when you stop you will pretty much always get back to the same point.
it's just impossible to keep improving while taking a lot of time off every year.
that's why I decided to stay on from now on
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I might - who knows
Any record of hairloss?
Shouldn't be any issue with dbol really. If you are prone to MPB just stay away from stuff like Winny and you should be fine.
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That is true to some extent, lets say for the first or the second cycle, but after those, when you stop you will pretty much always get back to the same point.
it's just impossible to keep improving while taking a lot of time off every year.
that's why I decided to stay on from now on
lol, awesome reasoning.
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lol, awesome reasoning.
;D
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I might - who knows
Any record of hairloss?
You wanna start juicing at 36 with a child? Jeezus, can you say Midlife crisis?
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You wanna start juicing at 36 with a child? Jeezus, can you say Midlife crisis?
Probably best time to start - my Test is going down - I have a child - So whats the problem?
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You wanna start juicing at 36 with a child? Jeezus, can you say Midlife crisis?
actually as far as health goes its far better for a mid thirty s guy to use/replace testosterone than a teen or someone in there early twenty's...once again speaking heath wise not bodybuilding wise...
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Probably best time to start - my Test is going down - I have a child - So whats the problem?
Good Reasoning...
Make sure to have some Nolvadex on hand, just in case you nipples get itchy..
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So you're saying that if you go on a mass stack of hemogenin, testosterone, trenbolone and nandrole and gain 50 lbs of lean muscle and then you stop taking it, you will keep most of your gains indefinitely by just working out and eating right? If you believe this, then you're a fool dude.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I think he's saying you can keep some of your gains if you keep lifting hard.
Brutal reading comprehension. ::)
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I think he's saying you can keep some of your gains if you keep lifting hard.
Brutal reading comprehension. ::)
SUCKMYMUSCLE didn't pass reading comprehension. Bah!
Doom disapproves.
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I think he's saying you can keep some of your gains if you keep lifting hard.
Brutal reading comprehension.
Idiot, I said that you lose at least 95% of your gains once you come of steroids. I never said you lose 100%. Brutal reading comprehension? You betcha. And at least I have the excuse of not having English as a first language. What's yours?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Idiot, I said that you lose at least 95% of your gains once you come of steroids. I never said you lose 100%. Brutal reading comprehension? You betcha. And at least I have the excuse of not having English as a first language. What's yours?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
were do you get these percentages from?...out of thin air no doubt...
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Idiot, I said that you lose at least 95% of your gains once you come of steroids. I never said you lose 100%. Brutal reading comprehension? You betcha. And at least I have the excuse of not having English as a first language. What's yours?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Dude, he's comming right at you!!
QUICK, BREAK HIS NEEEHHHHCKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_S2NbJIwrsZc/R0_0SulIOdI/AAAAAAAAC1I/CbGWc9AJ1jA/s1600-R/Dog-GermanShepherd-01.jpg)
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were do you get these percentages from?...out of thin air no doubt...
Doesen't matter. That's not the point. The point is that he attacked a straw man. I never claimed that you lose all your gains when you come of steroids.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dude, he's comming right at you!!
QUICK, BREAK HIS NEEEHHHHCKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_S2NbJIwrsZc/R0_0SulIOdI/AAAAAAAAC1I/CbGWc9AJ1jA/s1600-R/Dog-GermanShepherd-01.jpg)
Holy hell :-\
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I took it in 2004. Nothing works as well as it except Hemogenin. Of all the steroids I've tried, it was the only one that worked in real time. I remember one day I took 50 mg and I was literally bigger with rounder muscles by the end of the day. Incredible. Also, it makes you feel good with lot of energy to train. Hemogenin works great, but it gives you brutal headaches and makes you feel drowsy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
hemogenin is not dbol, it's oxymetholone.
made in Brasil.
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No way. Pink thais are shit. I've used from three different sources and they all were shit methyltest or fake. THey are hit and miss. Jelfa Metanabol and Danabol are the best going right now.
I get the real ones from british dispensary and they are the best dbol I have taken. after 5 days I am blowing up on only 30mgs a day.
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good source = good product
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Probably best time to start - my Test is going down - I have a child - So whats the problem?
I seriously dont see the point in older guys heavy juicing and detroying their health past their late thirties. Usually these guys hate their life and have nothing going for them. Im not talking about guys who like to run a couple cycles a year but talk to guys in the gym who look like leatherface and have no family, some dead end job, abusing themselves with the hope of looking like something when it probably wont happen anyways past that age. They are usually miserable to be around.
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hemogenin is not dbol, it's oxymetholone.
made in Brasil.
Where have I claimed that hemogenin is dbol? Show me where? I said that nothing works as well as dbol except for hemogenin. You people hace really shitty reading comprehension.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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obi wan never told you what happened to your father!
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A competitive bbuilder I know, when asked by gym rats tells people to avoid it as it messes up their stomach.
Seems like youre not following his advice though. ::)
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I seriously dont see the point in older guys heavy juicing and detroying their health past their late thirties. Usually these guys hate their life and have nothing going for them. Im not talking about guys who like to run a couple cycles a year but talk to guys in the gym who look like leatherface and have no family, some dead end job, abusing themselves with the hope of looking like something when it probably wont happen anyways past that age. They are usually miserable to be around.
Lol I fully agree - even worse is that jucided to the gills "personal trainer" in my gym he's about 50 years old ripped and shredded all year round - some friends in the gym know him better
and say he lives in this old apartment his mom left him when she died - he has zero life apart from the gym, doesn't go out or travels - he's that typical "this is my time now, this year I'm going for it and compete" ::) type of guy
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Lol I fully agree - even worse is that jucided to the gills "personal trainer" in my gym he's about 50 years old ripped and shredded all year round - some friends in the gym know him better
and say he lives in this old apartment his mom left him when she died - he has zero life apart from the gym, doesn't go out or travels - he's that typical "this is my time now, this year I'm going for it and compete" ::) type of guy
i know many tools of this type. living the dream! get big or die tryin! haha
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Lol I fully agree - even worse is that jucided to the gills "personal trainer" in my gym he's about 50 years old ripped and shredded all year round - some friends in the gym know him better
and say he lives in this old apartment his mom left him when she died - he has zero life apart from the gym, doesn't go out or travels - he's that typical "this is my time now, this year I'm going for it and compete" ::) type of guy
Straks future source.
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Straks future source.
lol
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What is the point of using steroids if all your gains disappear as soon as you stop taking them? And you can't take them for more than a couple of months at once due to the health issues. To quote Greg Zulak from his old Q&A in MuscleMag:
"Steroids are borrowed muscle. It is a bargain with the the devil: you get muscles in exchange for your health and you will only keep getting muscles for as long as you hold up to your side of the deal with the devil by giving your health in exchange for the muscles. As soon as the deal is of, your muscles evaporate and the muscle you are left with is the one you got through hard training."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
How about you tell us?
I took it in 2004. Nothing works as well as it except Hemogenin. Of all the steroids I've tried, it was the only one that worked in real time. I remember one day I took 50 mg and I was literally bigger with rounder muscles by the end of the day. Incredible. Also, it makes you feel good with lot of energy to train. Hemogenin works great, but it gives you brutal headaches and makes you feel drowsy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
What was your point back in 2004?
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No way. Pink thais are shit. I've used from three different sources and they all were shit methyltest or fake. THey are hit and miss. Jelfa Metanabol and Danabol are the best going right now.
Not if they are genuine. RealThai pinks are brutaly strong.
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Not if they are genuine. RealThai pinks are brutaly strong.
(http://tffilms.com/images/PORNSTAR%20HOME/PORNSTAR%20PAGE%20PICS/ORIENTALS/lily%20thai%209.JPG)
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(http://tffilms.com/images/PORNSTAR%20HOME/PORNSTAR%20PAGE%20PICS/ORIENTALS/lily%20thai%209.JPG)
Fuck yes.My tung would like to enter her vagina and get lost :D :P
Any more thai pussy ?
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How about you tell us?
What was your point back in 2004?
I wanted to see what all the fuss was about and if they truly were the magic pills everyone talked about. Some of them worked great and others worked very little. However, I never had any illusions that I would be on them forever or that I would keep my gains after I stopped taking them. I had already read the experiences of many bodybuilders who said they lost everything ater they stopped taking them and also I had some knowledge of physiology and biochemistry so I knew that physiological changes induced by extraneous substances end when you remove the extraneous substance since the body is always striving for homeosthasis.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I wanted to see what all the fuss was about and if they truly were the magic pills everyone talked about. Some of them worked great and others worked very little. However, I never had any illusions that I would be on them forever or that I would keep my gains after I stopped taking them. I had already read the experiences of many bodybuilders who said they lost everything ater they stopped taking them and also I had some knowledge of physiology and biochemistry so I knew that physiological changes induced by extraneous substances end when you remove the extraneous substance since the body is always striving for homeosthasis.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
So you tried it out to look if they are the magic pills DESPITE knowing that you would lose all gains afterwards?
So basically you only wanted to look muscular for a few weeks?
Sounds very reasonable.
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So you tried it out to look if they are the magic pills DESPITE knowing that you would lose all gains afterwards?
So basically you only wanted to look muscular for a few weeks?
Sounds very reasonable.
Yes, just like someone who tries crack knows the high will only last for a few minutes and yet they try it anyway, or a gourmet knows that the pleasure of a great dinner will only last for a couple hours or so. Life is about experimenting and discovering new things. I wanted to see what being on steroids would do for me in terms of strength and mass gains and if they really worked like the everyone talked about. What is unreasonable about that, you little bitch? You are so jealous of me, so desperate to prove me wrong and to try to show that I am not as smart as you think that I think I am at every chance you get, that I am actually flattered. I am flattered that I have a BITCH like you stalking me every chance and quoting my posts all the time and making condescending comments that is obvious that I own your mind. You are so sad, dude. No wonder you call yourself "Donkey" and have the picture of an ape on your avatar. It suits you. Lolololololololool.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yes, just like someone who tries crack knows the high will only last for a few minutes and yet they try it anyway, or a gourmet knows that the pleasure of a great dinner will only last for a couple hours or so. Life is about experimenting and discovering new things. I wanted to see what being on steroids would do for me in terms of strength and mass gains and if they really worked like the everyone talked about. What is unreasonable about that, you little bitch? You are so jealous of me, so desperate to prove me wrong and to try to show that I am not as smart as you think that I think I am at every chance you get, that I am actually flattered. I am flattered that I have a BITCH like you stalking me every chance and quoting my posts all the time and making condescending comments that is obvious that I own your mind. You are so sad, dude. No wonder you call yourself "Donkey" and have the picture of an ape on your avatar. It suits you. Lolololololololool.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL, god you're so easy to get, and it even don't cost money.
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LOL, god you're so easy to get, and it even don't cost money.
Keep replying to my posts, Donkey. Say my name, say my name... ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Im still keen on more thai pink pics DK ;D
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Im still keen on more thai pink pics DK ;D
Here you go chief ;)
(http://www.world-anabolics.com/images/Dianabol_Pink_Thai_BD_D_bol_anabol_drug.jpg)
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Here you go chief ;)
(http://www.world-anabolics.com/images/Dianabol_Pink_Thai_BD_D_bol_anabol_drug.jpg)
Yummy!
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