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I too was wondering what was going on with all of this UFO claims/information/sightings lately. Is this the next "terrorism" game being played on the public? We have to protect the world from invading UFOs...how much is that going to cost? I have seen this woman before give a lecture like this on how the whole UFO sightings is a SCAM and will be used to justify war, wild military demanding and spending of money, increasing taxation, citizens rights taken away around the world and a host of troubles for nations and peoples as their respective governments focus on these supposed UFOs coming to attack the world...
Rocket Scientist Predicted the Script
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Carol Rosin was the spokesperson for German Rocket scientist, Wernher von Braun in the mid-1970s. In her speech at the original Disclosure Project press conference 10 years ago, she reveals what von Braun said were the long-term plans and motivations behind an eventual "UFO Announcement" by the US and other world governments.
"First," he told her it was going to be justified by the threat from "the Russians," next, it would be from "the Terrorists," then, from the so-called "Rogue Nations." Eventually, "asteroids" would be to blame. The final card to be played would be "the Extraterrestrials"...
Wernher von Braun told her "We could replace the war industry with a space industry, that could provide the benefits…of non-polluting technologies…we could end the arms race without dislocating the industry jobs, without disrupting the economy, by transforming the war industry into a global, cooperative space industry that will provide more jobs and profits on this planet than during any hot or cold wartime; more products and services that can be applied directly to the problems of this planet."
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Additional information found at Rense from Carol Rosin who has been speaking on this matter for greater than a decade now
http://www.rense.com/general50/ec.htm
Video - U.F.O DISCLOSURE PROJECT -FULL VERSION
More info on UFO Disclosure
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/disclosureproject.htm
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So she's saying that the governments of the world will use UFO's to justify military spending?
And didn't someone say full UFO disclosuer was supposed to happen at the end of 2009? I seem to remember some on gb talking about it.
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So she's saying that the governments of the world will use UFO's to justify military spending?
And didn't someone say full UFO disclosuer was supposed to happen at the end of 2009? I seem to remember some on gb talking about it.
And you will have noticed on the news in countries all over Europe, Australia, South America, Central America and now in america there has been a massive increase in UFO reporting and sightings over the past couple of years and with this the military of these nations and continents have exclaimed that a defense system has to be constructed to "protect" the masses. All of this "protection" will cost dearly and the military will benefit. Look at the massive amount of money spent after 911
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And you will have noticed on the news in countries all over Europe, Australia, South America, Central America and now in america there has been a massive increase in UFO reporting and sightings over the past couple of years and with this the military of these nations and continents have exclaimed that a defense system has to be constructed to "protect" the masses. All of this "protection" will cost dearly and the military will benefit. Look at the massive amount of money spent after 911
No doubt, I get the game planning here and how it can be justified. Who has exclaimed a defense system must be constructed? Links? Which coutries governments have said this?
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No doubt, I get the game planning here and how it can be justified. Who has exclaimed a defense system must be constructed? Links? Which coutries governments have said this?
Damn Ozmo the obvious escapes you at every turn. You see america weaponizing Taiwan, putting in missile shields in Eastern Europe (supposedly to "PROTECT" them), just sold 8 BILLION dollars worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia, is keeping a large military force in Iraq and another in Afghanistan. Libya and Ethiopia have been sold tons of weapons from america and the list goes on and on. Terrorism has been used as an excuse to make the military and military arms manufacturers RICH...now it will be UFO invasions. And in case you forgot it was Reagan who started the whole STAR WARS military arming of outer space....because of what?!?!?!!?!?....INVADING ALIENS. Now we have gone full circle with this and the milking of governments budgets around the world will occur over HOAXES and like 911 will gut economies.
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Damn Ozmo the obvious escapes you at every turn. You see america weaponizing Taiwan, putting in missile shields in Eastern Europe (supposedly to "PROTECT" them), just sold 8 BILLION dollars worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia, is keeping a large military force in Iraq and another in Afghanistan. Libya and Ethiopia have been sold tons of weapons from america and the list goes on and on. Terrorism has been used as an excuse to make the military and military arms manufacturers RICH...now it will be UFO invasions. And in case you forgot it was Reagan who started the whole STAR WARS military arming of outer space....because of what?!?!?!!?!?....INVADING ALIENS. Now we have gone full circle with this and the milking of governments budgets around the world will occur over HOAXES and like 911 will gut economies.
So you can't answer any of the questions i asked or what? ???
This is what i said:
No doubt, I get the game planning here and how it can be justified. That means i agree with some of your premise.
This is what i asked:
Who has exclaimed a defense system must be constructed? (Who for the purpose of UFO defense)
Links? (you should always provide links)
Which countries governments have said this?
So, can you answer these questions or not?
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Bump, waiting for answers to some genuine questions here.......
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Bump, waiting for answers to some genuine questions here.......
None of us can answer your questions because like scared little girls, we're all sitting in dark closets refusing to even look at the things we may have problems with. :P
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None of us can answer your questions because like scared little girls, we're all sitting in dark closets refusing to even look at the things we may have problems with. :P
Oh get off it already. The guy (Luis the vain) is revolting. Its just not worth it to me to sit through 30 minutes of it.
Ok, I will make a compromise with you. Give me the "time points" he makes the "predictions" and i will watch it.
PS: I'm not asking anyone to look at anything here, only that they provide some proof. That's all. But nice jab, even though misplaced.
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I guess the same aliens came back form the 1960s and 1940s and turned off the nuclear missiles in america again in 2010...Isn't this something. And in all cases the military and US government ramped up spending on seeking out aliens, creating weapons and programs to hopefully defeat the would be invaders...Why doesn't the military just put a gun to the head of the US government and take the money....it is so much better than these aliens deactivating missiles stories...
Aliens have deactivated British and US nuclear missiles, say US military pilots
Aliens have deactivated British and US nuclear missiles, say US military pilots
Aliens have landed, infiltrated British nuclear missile sites and deactivated the weapons, according to US military pilots.
By Andy Bloxham
Published: 9:28AM BST 27 Sep 2010
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi...ilots.html
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A Minuteman missile at Malmstrom Air Force Base in the 1960s Photo: AP/USAF
The beings have repeated their efforts in the US and have been active since 1948, the men said, and accused the respective governments of trying to keep the information secret.
The unlikely claims were compiled by six former US airmen and another member of the military who interviewed or researched the evidence of 120 ex-military personnel.
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The information they have collected suggests that aliens could have landed on Earth as recently as seven years ago.
The men's aim is to press the two governments to recognise the long-standing extra-terrestrial visits as fact.
They are to be presented on Monday 27 September at a meeting in Washington.
One of the men, Capt Robert Salas, said: "The US Air Force is lying about the national security implications of unidentified aerial objects at nuclear bases and we can prove it."
He said said he witnessed such an event first-hand on March 16, 1967, at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana which housed Minuteman nuclear missiles.
Capt Salas continued: "I was on duty when an object came over and hovered directly over the site.
"The missiles shut down - 10 Minuteman missiles. And the same thing happened at another site a week later. There's a strong interest in our missiles by these objects, wherever they come from. I personally think they're not from planet Earth."
Others claim to have seen similar activity in the UK.
Col Charles Halt said he saw a UFO at the former military base RAF Bentwaters, near Ipswich, 30 years ago, during which he saw beams of light fired into the base then heard on the military radio that aliens had landed inside the nuclear storage area.
He said: "I believe that the security services of both the United States and the United Kingdom have attempted - both then and now - to subvert the significance of what occurred at RAF Bentwaters by the use of well-practised methods of disinformation."
The site was then the base of the US 81st Tactical Fighter Wing.
Capt Bruce Fenstermacher, a former US Air Force officer, also claims he saw a cigar-shaped UFO hovering above a nuclear base in Wyoming in 1976.
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The link goes no where; what's up?
Also, still waiting on the answers to the questions I asked.
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The link goes no where; what's up?
Also, still waiting on the answers to the questions I asked.
And it became WAY TOO HARD FOR YOU TO TYPE THE TITLE INTO GOOGLE AND GET THE INFO!!!!
Since you have toddler mentality here is the link as the page was moved by The Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8026971/Aliens-have-deactivated-British-and-US-nuclear-missiles-say-US-military-pilots.html
So far as any supposed unanswered questions I would suggest you read the original post again that answered your questions.
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And it became WAY TOO HARD FOR YOU TO TYPE THE TITLE INTO GOOGLE AND GET THE INFO!!!!
Since you have toddler mentality here is the link as the page was moved by The Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8026971/Aliens-have-deactivated-British-and-US-nuclear-missiles-say-US-military-pilots.html
So far as any supposed unanswered questions I would suggest you read the original post again that answered your questions.
Read it again.
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Read it again.
YES OZMO...read it again..
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This is what i asked:
Who has exclaimed a defense system must be constructed? (Who for the purpose of UFO defense)
Links? (you should always provide links)
Which countries governments have said this?
So, can you answer these questions or not?
Read again.
If you can't provide a link showing which governments called for defenses to be built to protect against UFO attack just say so. It's ok.
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Read again.
If you can't provide a link showing which governments called for defenses to be built to protect against UFO attack just say so. It's ok.
No need to let us all know how incompetent you are Ozzy..I will not hold your hand nor walk the info to you. I just gave you an example of your laziness and ineptness by finding the link for the posted article which the Telegraph recently moved the page.
Now instead of constantly posting the same request, just do the research like I did and find the answer you seek. It is very easy and the countries involved are very well known. In any case I don't want you to have a Farrakhan moment of denial and desires not to look...lol
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So in other words you can't answer them.
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So in other words you can't answer them.
Yes I can, but the real question is are you really capable of doing the research to find the answers to the question you ask?
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Yes I can, but the real question is are you really capable of doing the research to find the answers to the question you ask?
I see you found other ways to say you can't answer my questions. (Wouldn't be the first time)
I, based on your stalling, don't think you can and you are just trying to further delay by telling me i should do the research.
Funny, I don't agree with you much, but on this one thread i did agree with of your initial premise (which you miscomprehended) and asked for further information regarding the other premise and i got ridicule, followed by being ignored, and now you telling me i should do the research.
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I see you found other ways to say you can't answer my questions. (Wouldn't be the first time)
I, based on your stalling, don't think you can and you are just trying to further delay by telling me i should do the research.
Funny, I don't agree with you much, but on this one thread i did agree with of your initial premise (which you miscomprehended) and asked for further information regarding the other premise and i got ridicule, followed by being ignored, and now you telling me i should do the research.
Instead of mindlessly posting try researching Ozzy...I have already given you the tag words to find what you seek.
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Instead of mindlessly posting try researching Ozzy...I have already given you the tag words to find what you seek.
Still can't answer the question eh?
Its ok.
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Still can't answer the question eh?
Its ok.
When you go to the bathroom, ...do you have an assistant who shakes it for you, or wipes your bottom?
...or are you capable of finding the Cottonelle without someone handing it to you?
When you eat, do you use a knife & fork, as well as stemware?
Or are you still on a spoon and a sippy cup...
or even worse, ...the teat? (Of course that will forever be a matter of opinion) :D
Such lazy-ass stubborness is seldom seem in intelligent level headed thinkers.
Let us know when you come out of your closet. :-\
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When you go to the bathroom, ...do you have an assistant who shakes it for you, or wipes your bottom?
...or are you capable of finding the Cottonelle without someone handing it to you?
When you eat, do you use a knife & fork, as well as stemware?
Or are you still on a spoon and a sippy cup...
or even worse, ...the teat? (Of course that will forever be a matter of opinion) :D
Such lazy-ass stubborness is seldom seem in intelligent level headed thinkers.
Let us know when you come out of your closet. :-\
I am not the one who brought it up. He made 2 assertions. I agreed with one and asked about the other. He refused to answer but instead has danced around. He'd do better to just admitt he won't or cannot answer the questions.
By the way, You have a typo on the other thread you just posted to.
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I am not the one who brought it up. He made 2 assertions. I agreed with one and asked about the other. He refused to answer but instead has danced around. He'd do better to just admitt he won't or cannot answer the questions.
admit is spelled with only 1 "T"
By the way, You have a typo on the other thread you just posted to.
No I don't, ...besides, how would you even know if I did?
From what I can tell, you're locked away in a dark closet somewhere with your hands over your eyes.
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More UFO information being released. These classified tapes are 30 YEARS OLD and are now being released. Why release them now? I expect soon for governments especially in ameriac and England to announce like america's former president Ronald Reagan that there is the high possibility of an ALIEN ATTACK and we must be able to defend the world....
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Drudge has a story about a siting in DC on his site today.
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Drudge has a story about a siting in DC on his site today.
The Day The Earth Stood Still Scene
Landing in DC
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I have to send you a story that appeared on FR that was really good on this issue.
If you go over there, i think its still there.
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Samson - check out this thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2622927/posts
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They're Heeeeeeere!!!!!
VIDEO: Blue-Colored UFO in Centreville http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/virginia/video-blue-colored-ufo-in-centreville-110410#
Updated: Monday, 08 Nov 2010, 12:22 PM EST
Published : Friday, 05 Nov 2010, 12:43 AM EDT
By ROBY CHAVEZ/myfoxdc
CENTREVILLE, Va. - Some people in Centreville are talking about a bright blue light spotted moving in the sky Wednesday night. But no one seems to have an explanation for this unidentified flying object.
It was in the night sky just above Lee Highway when shoppers looked up and saw something weird in Centreville and it was all of it caught on camera.
“All of a sudden, it would stop and go back like this,” said Bryan Fains, using his finger to point out the direction of the blue light in the sky. “At one point, it stopped and went up and up.
Fains quickly grabbed his phone, turned on the camera and recorded the erratic blue light in the night sky. It flew around for about 10 minutes.
“[There] was no sound. It was a distinct blue light. It never flashed or blinked or nothing. It was just blue,” said Fains. “It’s weird. You only see this type of stuff in movies. Just as long as we're here, I'm sure there are other things somewhere.
Fains has not seen it since. Only just the occasional airplane from Dulles Airport. He is all too familiar with those flying objects and their loud sounds. Fains says this one had no sound. The apparent UFO sighting has him baffled.
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Information from site 3 submitted: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2622927/posts
Samson - check out this thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2622927/posts
Government Officials Cautht On Tape: "Extraterrestrials Walk Among us!
Wednesday, November 03, 2010
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS CAUGHT ON TAPE: "EXTRATERRESTRIALS WALK AMONG US!" by Anthony Bragalia
Copyright 2010, InterAmerica, Inc.
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. Over four decades ago a meeting of high-ranking military and intelligence officials, academic scholars and senior-level government scientists convened to analyze the nature of the mysterious UFO phenomena. This dynamic mix of professionals hailed from the Air Force, NASA and other esteemed organizations.
At the meeting these learned and accomplished men considered that the truth about the visiting extraterrestrial is far more disturbing than we would ever dare to imagine:
The aliens walk among us undetected! They have already inserted themselves into our culture and our world. And as you will soon hear for yourself, these stunning statements were taped, leaving no doubt about their intended meaning.
And just as our government inserts its intelligence agents into "countries of interest" by having them look and act like the target populus - the extraterrestrials would do the same. Before any open contact is made, they no doubt engage in the standard practice of learning as much about "the natives" as possible by "becoming" them!
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On February 8, 1966 the civilian UFO research group NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena) held a small reception in Washington, DC in honor of noted Brazilian UFO researcher Olavo Fontes, MD. Fontes was most known for his early work on the Brazil "Ubatuba" UFO case and resulting debris sample. Long defunct, NICAP was a credible research organization that counted among its members those within many professions throughout the 1950s and 1960s.
According to archived records of the organization, at this meeting there were 14 people in attendance. Many of these attendees were rather notable:
- The former Chief of Intelligence of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
- Two senior-level NASA scientists
- A retired USAF Colonel and NASA Program Manager
This meeting was (in part) recorded and had included some conversations among those that were assembled that concerned what the intentions may be of the "beings behind the UFO craft" that were being sighted in our skies.
The roster of attendees included NICAP officers and "friends of NICAP":
- Frank Bloss (Trident Missile Engineer)
- Robert Suggs, PhD (Noted Anthropologist)
- Leon Katchen (NASA Physicist later a developer of the Space Shuttle)
- Eli Bernzweig (Attorney and Ethicist)
- Frank Rawlinson (NASA Physicist later with Goddard Space Flight Center)
- Edward C. Russell (President of the non-profit English Speaking Union and early Peace and Cultural Exchange Advocate)
- Col. Howard Wright (USAF Ret., Decorated Pilot, Intel Agent, NASA Program Manager)
- Col. Howard McCoy (USAF Ret., Chief of Intelligence, USAF Wright Patterson AMC)
It is these last two attendees (and the meeting's honoree himself) who offer the most telling information about UFOs, their pilots and what they are doing here...
THE STUNNING STATEMENTS:
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Seated among this small gathered group was retired USAF Col. Howard Wright. Wright served as a decorated pilot in WWII, was engaged in many military intelligence missions, and later was employed at NASA as a Deputy Program Manager working on projects that were closely associated with the Air Force.
Wright made these remarkable statements about the extraterrestrial presence to his associates:
"I was in Intelligence for a long time, military intelligence. I was in the War. It is logical, not just military thinking, but as logical thinking, that there was never a successful military occupation or adventure where prior to the invasion or prior to the mass landing there were not agents sent ahead. This is standard practice. In Germany we and the British inserted Americans and we inserted British who looked like the Germans and spoke their language. In Japan we inserted them, but we had agents in their country exactly the same as we have agents behind the Iron Curtain now.
The main purpose of these people is to be as exactly like the natives as possible and yet the fact of life, the fact of military logic, the fact of cultural logic -and especially since they have not been hostile - dictates that there would be, if they are humanoid , that there can be humanoids picked out since the range of size and shape and color on this planet covers almost the entire spectrum.
“It almost dictates the fact that there would be agents of the space people, wherever they come from, living among us at the present time and having been here over the last hundred years."
Fortunately for history, someone in attendance had privately recorded parts of the meeting (perhaps unbeknownst to those in attendance) and later had stored it in the NICAP archives to be retrieved only decades later. You can hear Wright speaking to the group here:
Col. Howard Wright Discussing ET's Infiltration of Society,
From NICAP Archive:
www.nicap.org/audio/McCoy.mp3
THE INCREDIBLE IMPLICATION
Wright's comments are very insightful and make complete sense. What is equally telling is that Wright is one of two retired Air Force Colonels at this invite-only function. The other is Air Force Chief Col. Howard McCoy, a professional colleague and friend of Col.Howard Wright's. Howard McCoy was in fact a very senior-level officer in our nation's military after WWII. He was the Chief of Intelligence for the United States Air Force Air Materiel Command. He was close to the Secretary of the Air Force Stuart Symington and with General Curtis LeMay. McCoy was also instrumental in initiating the 1948 official government UFO study "Project Sign."
So here then we have the former head of Air Force Intelligence listening intently to his Air Force Intelligence compatriot seated right next to him in the same room speaking rather surely about the extraterrestrial infiltration of society! In fact so similar were the two Colonels that these statements on the alien reality were originally attributed to Colonel McCoy himself, but later investigation proved that the words were that of Col. Wright.
Skeptics may point out that it was McCoy who wrote in 1948 (in a document written after the Roswell crash from the year before): "I can't even tell you how much we would give to have one of those crash in an area so that we could recover what they are." But McCoy wrote this to a USAF Scientific Advisory Board Conference whose members have been shown to not all have possessed such sufficient clearance and need to know about such a crash. Either McCoy was misstating to misdirect and to protect security surrounding the issue- or he did not know at the time but later found out. Of course had such a crash event occurred, its existence would not be made known in such a general letter, circulated broadly to numbers of individuals.
Because we do not have the entire recording of this meeting that McCoy attended, we do not know precisely what he thought about Col. Wright's statements on visiting extraterrestrials "blending in" with our world. But we must wonder: Why in the world was McCoy even there in the first place?
Why was the former Director of USAF Intelligence at a private function honoring Ufologist Dr. Olavo Fontes (who had some years before studied what was believed to potentially be debris from a UFO) ?
Why was McCoy considering statements about infiltration of our world by those from another?
What was he doing there with a fellow Air Force intelligence officer and scientists from NASA?
Why was McCoy still privately obsessed by "things alien" long after he had retired from service- and decades after his Project Sign project was completed?
THEY LOOK LIKE US TO KNOW US
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If the extraterrestrial has mastered the ability to traverse the cosmos by manipulating space, time and matter to its advantage- it certainly has developed advanced camouflage technologies. They can no doubt "disguise" themselves to appear human. Or perhaps they are a continuum of things human. Such a humanoid could create a semblance to us so as to appear as we do. Perhaps they know that to one day face us, their face must look like us. They may be so different that immediate assimilation would be hindered by their radically different appearance. Or perhaps they are only a few thousand years ahead of us and don't look that much different.
As our own military and intelligence professionals know, this "blending in" would allow such "visitors" to gain first-hand information on us in advance- and undetected. They would understand us more completely if they walked amongst us. Wildlife researchers also know this. They cloak themselves in bear-skin to film the behavior of bear up close. In a similar way, the extraterrestrials would "cloak" themselves to seem more like those they are observing. In this way they know us better, without us ever even knowing!
Col. McCoy himself understood about the infiltration of other lands. He was in WWII and was instrumental in capturing German enemy technologies. The former head of our nation's Air Force Intelligence probably concurred with his associate Col. Wright: The people from other planets have already immersed themselves in our own!
posted by RRRGroup at Wednesday, November 03, 2010
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This little card will help everyone identify WEATHER BALLOONS VERSUS ACTUAL UFOs...
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