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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: IndustryInsider on November 08, 2010, 11:27:02 AM
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RXMuscle.com and the Sacramento Pro show
http://www.anthonyroberts.co.za/2010/11/rxmuscle-com-and-the-sacramento-pro-show/ (http://www.anthonyroberts.co.za/2010/11/rxmuscle-com-and-the-sacramento-pro-show/)
Ok…because I’ve gotten numerous emails about this issue, it’s clearly something that interests my readers: RxMuscle.com is claiming to have gotten over 100k views for the Sacramento Pro (a relatively minor bodybuilding contest) on their site. For everyone playing along at home, their thread views jumped from roughly 2,000 to about 40,000 overnight. I mean this quite literally, when I say “overnight” – like, during the time when everyone is asleep, in the continental United States, they somehow registered 38k views – a fact which didn’t go unnoticed:
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I think they’re manipulating the numbers, as I’ve caught them doing in the past. Here’s a look at their current views and posts for their Sacramento
Pro thread:
(http://www.anthonyroberts.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/sacpro.jpg)
If we compare their current thread views for this latest show against their past numbers, there is a huge (and unexplainable) spike in traffic. Here’s two other contests they’ve recently covered, and the numbers for those shows:
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As you can see, we’re talking a huge difference, without any logical explanation. Here’s a look at another couple of contest coverage threads:
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See my point? You don’t jump from 100 views on your contest coverage to 100k views within a month, especially when we’re talking about the smaller shows; I’m not comparing the Mr. Olympia to a local show here…I’m just saying that the numbers don’t add up, and they’re not even close to being realistic. Here are the numbers from some of their other contest coverage threads (all of which are far bigger shows than the Sacramento Pro):
The 2010 Jr Nationals: 21,733 views
The NPC Nationals: 43,757 views
The 2010 Mr. Olympia: 69,009 views
You’re telling me that the Sacramento Pro is getting more views than the Mr.Olympia? If we take a look at MD’s thread for the same contest, we find that it has less than 1/3rd the number of views, yet substantially more replies:
(http://www.anthonyroberts.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/MDSacpro.jpg)
There is no way they’re not manipulating their traffic counter, and there’s no way RxMuscle is even coming close to the numbers posted on their forums. If they were, they’d be giving sponsors and advertisers access to a third party traffic counter (Google Analytics, etc…), and they wouldn’t be losing sponsors left and right (obviously).
Remember – Dave Palumbo is a bodybuilder, and bodybuilding is a sport based on illusion – whether it’s creating the illusion of a skinny waist by having huge shoulders, or the illusion of having a successful site by padding your stats, it’s the same thing.
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good to see i only lube up for major events
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The best part is that they think it will somehow catapult them to great success.
Why even bother to do something like that?
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Good work. But where are the thong pics, Parker!?
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Who cares - do you really think all those view are real. You can set it up so that every hit is called a view. That is why I don't care about numbers, I care more about having fun.
Go to Alexa.com if you want to see the real numbers. Everything else is just whatever you say. I can add 100,00 hits to a thread quite easily if needed. But who cares.
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they like to brag about how many views some of their threads get, but they fail to mention that for a thread of that nature
each person who is paying attention to the thread, looks at the thread multiple time...........and each time that counts as a new view
so look at it this way..............say they have a thread that has 20,000 views.........but people looking at the thread each look at or post in it 4 times
so simplisticly looking at it...........you have 5,000 people looking at the thread 4 times........... as compared to 20,000 new people looking at it once, and people who are followig threads like that,............usually view the thread even more............so its really like 2,500 people each checking the thread 8 times........or even more
so you see how a thread with 10 or 20,000 "views"..........is really just a thread where a thousand people or so look at it multiple times
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Who cares - do you really think all those view are real. You can set it up so that every hit is called a view. That is why I don't care about numbers, I care more about having fun.
Go to Alexa.com if you want to see the real numbers. Everything else is just whatever you say. I can add 100,00 hits to a thread quite easily if needed. But who cares.
This board is not the basis of your financial success? I'm shocked!
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Maybe they fool their sponsors into paying more for banners etc on their site this way
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Who cares - do you really think all those view are real. You can set it up so that every hit is called a view. That is why I don't care about numbers, I care more about having fun.
Go to Alexa.com if you want to see the real numbers. Everything else is just whatever you say. I can add 100,00 hits to a thread quite easily if needed. But who cares.
The Getbigistrator has spoken. Let it be so!
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Tampon thread here has 6454 views! :o
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Swede! reported this irregularity months ago
I don't think anyone's surprised either way
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Tampon thread here has 6454 views! :o
Pictures or it didn't happen..
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just like ron said.........the way its set up
if you have 5,000 people each check the thread 12 times............that their "60,000" hit
and that the way it works over there, palumbo has a core group of ball-suckers who post multiple times in every thread
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more "traffic" = more sponsorship money
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These guys need to go on an Webmaster internet course ::)
What the fuck does "view" mean anyways? Who cares, that could have been anything from spiders to bots.
And depending what forum software they use its fucking easy to change the number of views a thread of forum has as an Admin - i am talking about
a 2 second job her fellas.
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Look how clean and uncluttered Getbig looks compared to the mess that is Rxmuscle.
It's become a wall of ads with total disregard for the forum layout. Very hard to navigate.
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Swede! reported this irregularity months ago
I don't think anyone's surprised either way
Exactly. And they keep you on the "active users" for about 2 hours last time I checked. That is 2 hours after the LAST time you did anything you're still "active". epic scamming for sponsor money. I mentioned it but it was deleted right away obviously
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I am sure they are using these fake numbers to draw in advertisers... Hopefully the advertisers have enough common sense to get a refund.
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From the Rx Moderator:
"I honestly don't know why there are so many views for this show, so am not going to try and make any suggestions why. The same thing happened with the Jr Nationals - we had a hyoooge amount of traffic on our play-by-play thread for that show (more than bigger national shows and many pro shows)...but so did MD."
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This board is not the basis of your financial success? I'm shocked!
I have a full time job that I do very well, and enjoy, working 60+ hours a week.
This board, and my photography is something that I have enjoyed (Photography from high school days), and will continue to enjoy. Taking creative pictures, whether on stage, at photoshoots, or just around is lot of fun. And having people thanking me for the great shots, or a good time on shoots is cool too.
Some of you will learn that money isn't everything in life - satisfaction, happiness, friends, family, people who love you is very, very important. You cover the basics (food, shelter, clothing) with a good paying job, and continue to strive to better yourself.
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I am sure they are using these fake numbers to draw in advertisers... Hopefully the advertisers have enough common sense to get a refund.
You got any info on why RxMuscle has such a high turnover rate for their sponsers?
Is it a simple case of poor ROI or is Dave a nightmare to deal with?
I'd bet that very few people who visit the site actually frequent the sponsers.
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I am sure they are using these fake numbers to draw in advertisers... Hopefully the advertisers have enough common sense to get a refund.
Mate most advertisers don't fall for that crap i know first hand how hard it is for any company to part with their cash to
advertise on your page. The view counter means fuck all - as i said could have been anything, bots, spiders and even if the thread was mentioned lets say on a huge page. How much of the 100k is quality traffic as in members that stay and explore the page and see the advertisment? What advertisers look for is google analytics stats - and you cannot fake them ;)
So in fact there isn't a valid legit reason why you would change the view count of a thread - its meaningless in a business sense.
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I have a full time job that I do very well, and enjoy, working 60+ hours a week.
This board, and my photography is something that I have enjoyed (Photography from high school days), and will continue to enjoy. Taking creative pictures, whether on stage, at photoshoots, or just around is lot of fun. And having people thanking me for the great shots, or a good time on shoots is cool too.
Some of you will learn that money isn't everything in life - satisfaction, happiness, friends, family, people who love you is very, very important. You cover the basics (food, shelter, clothing) with a good paying job, and continue to strive to better yourself.
60 hours a week? :/
you could provide for me if that would make you feel even better ron? ;D 2k a month and im good to go. I could even moderate these forum with a iron fist ;D
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I have a full time job that I do very well, and enjoy, working 60+ hours a week.
This board, and my photography is something that I have enjoyed (Photography from high school days), and will continue to enjoy. Taking creative pictures, whether on stage, at photoshoots, or just around is lot of fun. And having people thanking me for the great shots, or a good time on shoots is cool too.
Some of you will learn that money isn't everything in life - satisfaction, happiness, friends, family, people who love you is very, very important. You cover the basics (food, shelter, clothing) with a good paying job, and continue to strive to better yourself.
Ron you need to stop explaining yourself to lesser new members, you are our fearless leader and stand above any criticism.
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If Ron would ever get serious on Getbig, he can start making some money on it - get with it already, and update the site more, and get some help, everyone complains about it, yet the site is still up there. Some of the sections are outdated, but I love this place. None of the bullshit and made up numbers like others do.
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If Ron would ever get serious on Getbig, he can start making some money on it - get with it already, and update the site more, and get some help, everyone complains about it, yet the site is still up there. Some of the sections are outdated, but I love this place. None of the bullshit and made up numbers like others do.
What Ron needs to do is to forget about all that content stuff update - delete all these pages.
Have 1 Forum, And 1 Gallery.
RON I'LL FUCKING INSTALL THE GALLERY FOR YOU, YOU DICK ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY YES... YES STARK I TAKE YOUR ADVICE.
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If Ron would ever get serious on Getbig, he can start making some money on it - get with it already, and update the site more, and get some help, everyone complains about it, yet the site is still up there. Some of the sections are outdated, but I love this place. None of the bullshit and made up numbers like others do.
I find it hard to believe that RXMuscle is on top of MD
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Remember – Dave Palumbo is an ex-con, rip-off artist, con-man, bodybuilder, and bodybuilding is a sport based on illusion – whether it’s creating the illusion of a skinny waist by having huge shoulders, or the illusion of having a successful site by padding your stats, it’s the same thing. Oh, and don't forget how he took advantage of people like his friends and clients who trusted him. Yet there are people who actually idolize this guy. That tells you what kind of people they are
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Remember – Dave Palumbo is an ex-con, rip-off artist, con-man, bodybuilder, and bodybuilding is a sport based on illusion
I take exception to you calling out Dave. Dave has always been respectful to me, and tries very hard to cover the contests, which takes dedication, time and money. It isnt easy going to various contests, and putting things up on a timely manner.
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Alexa is not a fair measuring tool for Statistics..
Alexa is an Amazon owned web search and traffic measurement company which gauges the popularity of a web site based upon the visits of Alexa Toolbar, A9 Toolbar and other web tool users. Beyond asking friends to download Alexa and visit a web site a couple of times per day there are also some businesses which manipulate Alexa rankings as a service..
As Ron said Google Analytics is the best way to get a trust worthy statistical measurement.
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I take exception to you calling out Dave. Dave has always been respectful to me, and tries very hard to cover the contests, which takes dedication, time and money. It isnt easy going to various contests, and putting things up on a timely manner.
But Yaroni, all those things are true...nice guy or not.
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internet is serious business.
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When Ron has a bad day... it's still way more fun than most of us have on a good day :)
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The only reason I go on that board now is Chris Aceto...
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The only reason I go on that board now is Chris Aceto...
me too, the guy is a genius as far as diet goes.
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me too, the guy is a genius as far as diet goes.
Best ever...I have his Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Fatloss and Championship Bodybuilding books..Easy to read and understand and gives a no shit approach...
He'll openly admit he's not a drug guru, just a diet (and to a degree training) guy..Which happens to be everything after genetics.
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Best ever...I have his Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Fatloss and Championship Bodybuilding books..Easy to read and understand and gives a no shit approach...
He'll openly admit he's not a drug guru, just a diet (and to a degree training) guy..Which happens to be everything after genetics.
To bad you don't employ the principles in every day life fatty... ;D
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Somebody call ESPN, CNN and fire department......cause dis shit is hotttttt !!!!!
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Who cares - do you really think all those view are real. You can set it up so that every hit is called a view. That is why I don't care about numbers, I care more about having fun.
Go to Alexa.com if you want to see the real numbers. Everything else is just whatever you say. I can add 100,00 hits to a thread quite easily if needed. But who cares.
More important is the fact that this nonsense should not be reported or posted on this site.
Getbig serves a great purpose for fans of this industry and keeping a watchful eye on those clowns over at RXmuscle just isn't a priority at Getbig.
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P.S. Lets not insult Ron with this garbage, sorry Rabbi..
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To bad you don't employ the principles in every day life fatty... ;D
I have for the past month and will continue to do so indefinitely...thanks for the words on encouragement... ;D
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I have for the past month and will continue to do so indefinitely...thanks for the words on encouragement... ;D
No problem wiggs.
Good luck in losing that weight man..
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You got any info on why RxMuscle has such a high turnover rate for their sponsers?
Is it a simple case of poor ROI or is Dave a nightmare to deal with?
I'd bet that very few people who visit the site actually frequent the sponsers.
The sponsors are not getting good ROI, the place is a ghost town relatively speaking. Yes there is a small contingent of Palumbo fans however not many other people. Honestly MD destroys RX for content and they have the horses (athletes) and RX doesn't. Seriously Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Jay Cutler, Denis Wolf, Victor, and so on and so on. RX has PJ Braun and ???? They can't keep up.
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The sponsors are not getting good ROI, the place is a ghost town relatively speaking. Yes there is a small contingent of Palumbo fans however not many other people. Honestly MD destroys RX for content and they have the horses (athletes) and RX doesn't. Seriously Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Jay Cutler, Denis Wolf, Victor, and so on and so on. RX has PJ Braun and ???? They can't keep up.
every sponsor that shows up there...........ends up leaving VERY soon
ALRI, brutal alchemy...........and there are numerous other ones
its quite bizarre actually, the turnover is so quick its mindblowing............a testament to palumbo's shadyness............spo nsors will show up, and on one of the shows palumbo will hype them as "the next big thing"...........and they will be gone the next week. literally, the next week
Martini Muscle came on a few weeks ago and was suddenly "the official supplememt store fo RX muscle".........the next week.......they were GONE
no explanation, no explanation for any of these sponsors that just dissappear..........they just dissappear
paying RX muscle si worthless, it is not making sponsors money........and pretty soon dave is gonna run out of new sponsors to scam...........cause he went through half the industry in hsi first year
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Who cares - do you really think all those view are real. You can set it up so that every hit is called a view. That is why I don't care about numbers, I care more about having fun.
Go to Alexa.com if you want to see the real numbers. Everything else is just whatever you say. I can add 100,00 hits to a thread quite easily if needed. But who cares.
You had me at who cares.
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If Ron would ever get serious on Getbig, he can start making some money on it - get with it already, and update the site more, and get some help, everyone complains about it, yet the site is still up there. Some of the sections are outdated, but I love this place. None of the bullshit and made up numbers like others do.
Ron has no idea how much money he is just letting go with this board, I say at least $10k a month.
I guess Ron is just not really much of an entrepreneur.
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maybe ron makes a lot of money the way it is.......and understands that while money MAY be available............it would probably involve a lot of headaches
fucking sponsors bitching and making demands., this cant be said cause it pisses off one sponser, that cant be said cause it pisses off another.........pissing and moaning about ROI
plus you have to activly seek out sponsors, they dont just come to you
it may be more trouble then its worth
rons actions are already dictated by the NPC....threads disappear all the time at the request of the industry people
prolly just not worth the hassle
plus, this is getbig.,,....it has a reputation. no one would advertise here, ron would have to eliminate 95% of the posters here, and start over from scratch...........there are already plenty of boards where one can go for sterile boring bodybuilding discussion
so essentially to get sponsors to be her, he would have to make this not-get big..........so th eposters would go away
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Ron has no idea how much money he is just letting go with this board, I say at least $10k a month.
I guess Ron is just not really much of an entrepreneur.
No, Ron's a fucking genius for setting up a site that is clean of ads and other bullshits and its a full page. I set the same thing up with my Muscle World Order forum as a full page site with no ads. It may be a ghost town but it least it looks good.... :-X
Dave is in transition with sponsors and he can't help who's paying and who isn't. Its just business and its his site and he's free to run it as he wants. I just would not do it.
Ron's been around since the mid 90's so he obviously knows what he's doing
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No, Ron's a fucking genius for setting up a site that is clean of ads and other bullshits and its a full page. I set the same thing up with my Muscle World Order forum as a full page site with no ads. It may be a ghost town but it least it looks good.... :-X
Dave is in transition with sponsors and he can't help who's paying and who isn't. Its just business and its his site and he's free to run it as he wants. I just would not do it.
Ron's been around since the mid 90's so he obviously knows what he's doing
Damning with faint Vince-centric praise.
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I can't believe that anyone connected to the bodybuilding industry would exaggerate claims.
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No, Ron's a fucking genius for setting up a site that is clean of ads and other bullshits and its a full page. I set the same thing up with my Muscle World Order forum as a full page site with no ads. It may be a ghost town but it least it looks good.... :-X
Dave is in transition with sponsors and he can't help who's paying and who isn't. Its just business and its his site and he's free to run it as he wants. I just would not do it.
Ron's been around since the mid 90's so he obviously knows what he's doing
Dont think of it as a ghost town Vince, think of it as full of people who take you seriously.
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No, Ron's a fucking genius for setting up a site that is clean of ads and other bullshits and its a full page. I set the same thing up with my Muscle World Order forum as a full page site with no ads. It may be a ghost town but it least it looks good.... :-X
Dave is in transition with sponsors and he can't help who's paying and who isn't. Its just business and its his site and he's free to run it as he wants. I just would not do it.
Ron's been around since the mid 90's so he obviously knows what he's doing
you're such an idiot.
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you're such an idiot.
I'm not stupid enough to sell relabeled Vitalab supplements and then claim it to be your own like you, jackass. Better yet, you were even retarded enough to actually pay Dave to advertise your products even though you have your own forum.... ;D
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Dont think of it as a ghost town Vince, think of it as full of people who take you seriously.
Nah, its the ghost town, just too much competition...but at least the articles are popular. I got 240 designing a new logo for the site and I'm about to do some live video shows and clips.
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Dont think of it as a ghost town Vince, think of it as full of people who take you seriously.
haha ;D
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many forums, mainly steroid ones that crush MD, RXMUSCLE, FLEXONLINE... elitefitness even crushes them
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every sponsor that shows up there...........ends up leaving VERY soon
ALRI, brutal alchemy...........and there are numerous other ones
its quite bizarre actually, the turnover is so quick its mindblowing............a testament to palumbo's shadyness............spo nsors will show up, and on one of the shows palumbo will hype them as "the next big thing"...........and they will be gone the next week. literally, the next week
Martini Muscle came on a few weeks ago and was suddenly "the official supplememt store fo RX muscle".........the next week.......they were GONE
no explanation, no explanation for any of these sponsors that just dissappear..........they just dissappear
paying RX muscle si worthless, it is not making sponsors money........and pretty soon dave is gonna run out of new sponsors to scam...........cause he went through half the industry in hsi first year
You are right, it's funny how they push their sponsors and everyone on their board hugs the sponsors nuts and the next thing you know, they are gone without an explanation.
Dave has a conflict of interest issue being that he has his own supplement line, I know several big companies that won't consider sponsoring that site, one because they won't see a good return and two it's a conflict of interest.
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I'm about to do some live video shows and clips.
Where will you be getting that content from ?
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Good work. But where are the thong pics, Parker!?
;D ;D ;D
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BSN and BPI must be getting a deal of the century over there.. If they paid more then $100 a month they got ripped off. Hopefully they are asking for Google analytic's and not going by Alexa.
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IronMagLabs....what a joke.... ::) Talk shit about Palumbo yet you fork over money to him for advertising
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Where will you be getting that content from ?
YO Melvin
Can you answer my question please ?
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YO Melvin
Can you answer my question please ?
A camcorder, SoundTech Podcasting Kit, and Wimply MP3 Player
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A camcorder, SoundTech Podcasting Kit, and Wimply MP3 Player
The content will be what ? ... will you be going to local gyms and asking members about their regimen .. IE: what works for them and what else they tried that didn't ? will you do interviews with trainers about differents pieces of equipment they prefer ? or sport injury therapists on how they treat common muscle pulls etc. ?
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The content will be what ? ... will you be going to local gyms and asking members about their regimen .. IE: what works for them and what else they tried that didn't ? will you do interviews with trainers about differents pieces of equipment they prefer ? or sport injury therapists on how they treat common muscle pulls etc. ?
Most of the exercise content will be from my training of clients and I'll do some at Western Carolina University. But I'll have some good old fashioned slapstick as well
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Most of the exercise content will be from my training of clients and I'll do some at Western Carolina University. But I'll have some good old fashioned slapstick as well
Catamount Gap !!!
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Most of the exercise content will be from my training of clients and I'll do some at Western Carolina University. But I'll have some good old fashioned slapstick as well
Minstrel shows are always funny.
'Hello dere Mr. Bones...'
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Haha...glad I found this site. Some of the best comedy on the tubes.
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Who cares - do you really think all those view are real. You can set it up so that every hit is called a view. That is why I don't care about numbers, I care more about having fun.
Go to Alexa.com if you want to see the real numbers. Everything else is just whatever you say. I can add 100,00 hits to a thread quite easily if needed. But who cares.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS...
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Minstrel shows are always funny.
'Hello dere Mr. Bones...'
This site cracks me up