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Did anyone else see Beck's piece on George Soros today? It's a two part special on Soros and well worth the watch.
Some interesting things he pointed out today:
*The Stim bill, it was written by a Soros funded group...the Apollo Alliance.
*The Campaign Finance Reform Bill...whose idea? Soros...how did it benefit him? It allows Soros funded groups to be the principle contributors and advertisers.
*The largest media mogul on the planet...Soros.
*The Cap & Trade plan...Soros.
*The banking reform now being proposed by Obama...whose idea, whose model? Soros.
Beck also shows where the money Soros is spending goes...this man has his hand in everything in the United States.
Obama may indeed be a puppet to this man.
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Beck has been right on pretty much everything so far. Love him or hate him he's been right. If he's right about Soros and I believe he is, we're in worse shape and in a worse mess than we've been led to believe.
IMO, the "Soros Issue/Factor" may be more pressing and important than any issue that has a thread on this board.
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Soros Quotes:
“It is sort of a disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out,” (The Independent, June 3, 1993)
“Just write that the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire,” (The New Republic, Jan 1994)
“I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of self-importance –to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes or, even better, a scientist like Einstein,” (The Alchemy of Finance, George Soros)
“If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood which I felt I had to control, otherwise I might end up in the loony bin. But when I made my way in the world I wanted to indulge myself in my fantasies to the extent that I could afford.”
- George Soros 60 Minutes Interview - 12/20/98 / Transcript:
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Great work by Beck. Soros is one of the most dangerous people on the planet.
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After reading about how soros helped the Nazis in WW2 as a kid and his expressing no regrets for it, I was sickened by even the sound of this guys name.
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Did anyone else see Beck's piece on George Soros today? It's a two part special on Soros and well worth the watch.
Some interesting things he pointed out today:
*The Stim bill, it was written by a Soros funded group...the Apollo Alliance.
*The Campaign Finance Reform Bill...whose idea? Soros...how did it benefit him? It allows Soros funded groups to be the principle contributors and advertisers.
*The largest media mogul on the planet...Soros.
*The Cap & Trade plan...Soros.
*The banking reform now being proposed by Obama...whose idea, whose model? Soros.
Beck also shows where the money Soros is spending goes...this man has his hand in everything in the United States.
Obama may indeed be a puppet to this man.
any source for the claims that the Apollo alliance is funded by Soros (other than Beck of course)
wasn't cap and trade a republican idea from the 1990s (I think Grassly had something to do with it)
largets media mogul on the planet?
http://www.mediaite.com/power-grid/category/?c=Media+Moguls
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any source for the claims that the Apollo alliance is funded by Soros (other than Beck of course)
wasn't cap and trade a republican idea from the 1990s (I think Grassly had something to do with it)
largets media mogul on the planet?
http://www.mediaite.com/power-grid/category/?c=Media+Moguls
Soros works a little differently than your typical media guy...everything is one under the cover of darkness. Everything he does, including OSI is connected and tied to hundreds of other groups/programs/orgs. I'll submit, "Media-Mogul" was a poor choice of words to use, a different word(s) would be far more apt but I'm not sure what that word(s) is. Either way, this guy may indeed be the most dangerous man on earth.
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Soros works a little differently than your typical media guy...everything is one under the cover of darkness. Everything he does, including OSI is connected and tied to hundreds of other groups/programs/orgs. I'll submit, "Media-Mogul" was a poor choice of words to use, a different word(s) would be far more apt but I'm not sure what that word(s) is. Either way, this guy may indeed be the most dangerous man on earth.
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so it's just a CT theory?
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so it's just a CT theory?
straw I bumped some old threads on this topic.
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so it's just a CT theory?
I wouldn't put this in the CT category at all. Soros is very open and has become more and more open about his desires and his actual power...he is becoming very brazen.
A CT is based on speculation, in this case we can look directly at Soros' own actions and his own words and easily determine facts.
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Soros Quotes:
“It is sort of a disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out,” (The Independent, June 3, 1993)
“Just write that the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire,” (The New Republic, Jan 1994)
“I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of self-importance –to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes or, even better, a scientist like Einstein,” (The Alchemy of Finance, George Soros)
“If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood which I felt I had to control, otherwise I might end up in the loony bin. But when I made my way in the world I wanted to indulge myself in my fantasies to the extent that I could afford.”
- George Soros 60 Minutes Interview - 12/20/98 / Transcript:
Wow! :o That is rather disturbing to say the least. :-X
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George Soros has destroyed the currency of 4 countries in his lifetime, 4...what makes the U.S. any different?
"The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States" - Soros
"An orderly decline of the dollar is actually desirable" - Soros
"A very important flaw in the current world order and that is only Americans have a vote in congress and yet it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world, that is a flaw in the current setup." - Soros
How does Soros correct the "problem?" His words "subversively" by:
1. Form shadow government: using humanitarian aid as a cover. OSI-funds Huffington- Funds Jim Wallis led by founder of SDS...built and funded the shadow party convention. Funds Tides, Van Jones, etc.
2. Control awareness: moveon.org, mediamatters, etc.
3. Destabilize the State: weaken the government by promoting anti-government.
4. Provoke an election crisis.
5. Take Power: Stage Demonstrations
Can anyone say with any ounce of truth that the above 5 hasn't already begun? For crying out loud, the Shadow party openly promotes itself on CSPAN.
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George Soros has destroyed the currency of 4 countries in his lifetime, 4...what makes the U.S. any different?
"The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States" - Soros
"An orderly decline of the dollar is actually desirable" - Soros
"A very important flaw in the current world order and that is only Americans have a vote in congress and yet it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world, that is a flaw in the current setup." - Soros
How does Soros correct the "problem?" His words "subversively" by:
1. Form shadow government: using humanitarian aid as a cover. OSI-funds Huffington- Funds Jim Wallis led by founder of SDS...built and funded the shadow party convention. Funds Tides, Van Jones, etc.
2. Control awareness: moveon.org, mediamatters, etc.
3. Destabilize the State: weaken the government by promoting anti-government.
4. Provoke an election crisis.
5. Take Power: Stage Demonstrations
Can anyone say with any ounce of truth that the above 5 hasn't already begun? For crying out loud, the Shadow party openly promotes itself on CSPAN.
Maybe Soros is the anti-christ? It would make sense no?
Prophecy says that the man many believe will be the messiah, will actually be the one put in place to ensure that conditions are ripe for the take-over of the anti-christ.
There is no doubt in my mind there is an orchestration a foot to destroy the American economy and America as a whole.
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George Soros has destroyed the currency of 4 countries in his lifetime, 4...what makes the U.S. any different?
"The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States" - Soros
"An orderly decline of the dollar is actually desirable" - Soros
"A very important flaw in the current world order and that is only Americans have a vote in congress and yet it is the United States that basically determines policy for the world, that is a flaw in the current setup." - Soros
How does Soros correct the "problem?" His words "subversively" by:
1. Form shadow government: using humanitarian aid as a cover. OSI-funds Huffington- Funds Jim Wallis led by founder of SDS...built and funded the shadow party convention. Funds Tides, Van Jones, etc.
2. Control awareness: moveon.org, mediamatters, etc.
3. Destabilize the State: weaken the government by promoting anti-government.
4. Provoke an election crisis.
5. Take Power: Stage Demonstrations
Can anyone say with any ounce of truth that the above 5 hasn't already begun? For crying out loud, the Shadow party openly promotes itself on CSPAN.
I'm never impressed with out of context quotes
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Maybe Soros is the anti-christ? It would make sense no?
Prophecy says that the man many believe will be the messiah, will actually be the one put in place to ensure that conditions are ripe for the take-over of the anti-christ.
There is no doubt in my mind there is an orchestration a foot to destroy the American economy and America as a whole.
finally - someone with some common sense
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Say No to the NGOs
The NGO Army of George Soros & Maurice Strong
By Judi McLeod Thursday, November 11, 2010
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“Be Prepared” must be the two most commonsense words known to humanity.
And in times like these, being prepared is survival.
The NGOs (non-government organizations) already unleashed in France, Germany, England and Greece will soon be taking to the streets in America, George Soros-described as “the biggest obstacle to One World Government”.
NGOs, long fomenting for revolution, and on the payrolls of the One World Order deadly duo George Soros and Maurice Strong, are not the good guys. The political, strategic spawn of Soros and Strong, they are the paid agents of change, looking to Barack Obama to get the job done.
It was Strong who long ago came up with the blueprint for coupling the money from “philanthropists” and business with the objectives of government.
The thousands of private Non-Government Organizations that have attached themselves to the United Nations like leeches are well funded and right on target.
No one describes the NGOs better than Phyllis Schlafly who has watched them for decades: “The NGOs are energetic lobbyists for dramatic changes in the mission and structure of the UN to achieve global governance. Most NGOs are also members of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN), which originated many of the global environmental polices set forth in the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on Climate Change, and Agenda 21. The most prominent NGOs are the radical environmental groups such as the Sierra Club and the feminist and population-control groups such as Planned Parenthood.”
But the NGO member, both cunning and conniving, make like they are on the side of the masses. They are the next door neighbour, the cantor singing at Sunday service, the babysitter who teaches your children that evil capitalism must be stomped out; that Mommy and Daddy are polluting the Planet.
Perhaps the most dangerous thing about the Soros-Strong largely off-the-radar bid for the serfdom of One World Government is their legacy. Both men have sons, ready to pick up the reins of power. We leave it to Glenn Beck to identify them, to show their pictures on cable television so all will know who they are before they step into Papa’s boots.
Meanwhile, in the White Noise that surrounds us all with even right-of-center talking heads tugging at both minds and purse strings, no one seems to be letting people know how to hang in, or even to brace themselves for coming calamities.
But good people everywhere already knew in their hearts what they must do.
With politicians from both sides of the political spectrum promising to jump into the fire to save We the People, people have had to become their own government.
When it comes to protecting your loved ones, God and you have always been, and are now, the ultimate authority.
Just a few tips for staying on the merry go round without falling off in Obama Times:
Be prepared is tip number one. Keep each other informed. Recognize propaganda when you see it. (i.e. Open Society Institute’s (OSI) latest propaganda video portraying Soros as a kind and charitable man who truly cares about people).
Hunker down is tip number two. Draw your loved ones and friends near to you wherever possible. If you live in a city and have relatives in the country, consider moving in with your rural kin. Share costs, share cooking, cleaning and organizing duties.
Stockpile is number three. Stockpile against hyper inflation. If inflation doesn’t come to pass, you will have saved on grocery bills by prudently buying in bulk. Always cheaper.
Make sure all prescriptions are filled. Stock up on aspirin, bandages, antibiotic ointments on the home-front.
Batteries, candles, radios that don’t rely on electricity are always good to have at the ready.
Keep games to entertain children on hand in the event of power outages. Include playing cards for the adults.
Remember that the people who mean the most harm are invisible. They are the ones hiding behind signs at manufactured protests. Like the rats they are, they will continue to gnaw away at the fabric of all you and America stand for.
Their job, for which they are paid handsomely, is to bring down the Republic. Your unpaid and never-ending one is to protect your family.
Keep your morale running high. Imagine the in-fighting going on behind the scenes for those who are power-crazed. (i.e. Nancy Pelosi).
Anticipate the next chapter before it begins. When the King of the World returns, he will work to ruin Christmas (from the Obama Rule Book, “Demoralize, Demoralize, Demoralize!) Meanwhile you and the kids are making homemade Christmas decorations and laughing about last year’s Mao Christmas ornaments on the White House Christmas tree.
There is always this truth to keep in mind: There is nothing magic about George Soros, Maurice Strong, their army of NGOs just as there is nothing magic about community organizers Barack and Michelle Obama. They are pathetic people driven by human greed and a strong lust for power.
Thanks to Glenn Beck, Henry Lamb, Alan Caruba, Cliff Kincaid, Matthew Vadum, Phyllis Schlafly and so many others, you now know who and what they are.
Above all, keep your soul shining and the home fires burning.
Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck.
I can't help but to like this columnist. I love the way she spells her name too.
That just demonstrates tremendous insight, wisdom and intelligence. :P
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Say No to the NGOs
Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck.
I can't help but to like this columnist. I love the way she spells her name too.
That just demonstrates tremendous insight, wisdom and intelligence. :P
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Hahaha. OK Thanks. I think you just answered my question. ;D
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I'm never impressed with out of context quotes
What context do you need? There's no secret or secondary meaning to what Soros wants and desires, he is very open and honest about it.
George Soros has destroyed the currency of 4 countries in his lifetime, 4...what makes the U.S. any different?
He believes the U.S. is the main problem facing the world as a whole today, he believes that the only way for this "Problem" to go away is to devalue the U.S. dollar and he believes the U.S. government should not be the ruled by the U.S. but by the world as a whole...meaning, everyone gets a say. He believes these actions, particularly devaluing the dollar and creating an open society should and must be done subversively.
What's difficult in understanding this?
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Did anyone else see Beck's piece on George Soros today? It's a two part special on Soros and well worth the watch.
Some interesting things he pointed out today:
*The Stim bill, it was written by a Soros funded group...the Apollo Alliance.
*The Campaign Finance Reform Bill...whose idea? Soros...how did it benefit him? It allows Soros funded groups to be the principle contributors and advertisers.
*The largest media mogul on the planet...Soros.
*The Cap & Trade plan...Soros.
*The banking reform now being proposed by Obama...whose idea, whose model? Soros.
Beck also shows where the money Soros is spending goes...this man has his hand in everything in the United States.
Obama may indeed be a puppet to this man.
The people who own Fox News wouldn't let Beck run something that wasn't in their interest. "Their interest" is the same as that of George Soros...
Glen Beck is just a puppet
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The people who own Fox News wouldn't let Beck run something that wasn't in their interest. "Their interest" is the same as that of George Soros...
Glen Beck is just a puppet
Saying Beck is a puppet but providing absolutely nothing to refute the points of this topic, that does and says nothing, it contributes nothing, it doesn't sway the argument in the opposite direction in any shape, form or fashion.
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Stop feeding into this gimmick.
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Saying Beck is a puppet but providing absolutely nothing to refute the points of this topic, that does and says nothing, it contributes nothing, it doesn't sway the argument in the opposite direction in any shape, form or fashion.
Soros (and the people playing for his "team") are so powerful, yet they're going to run a piece like this on "their" network... Right.... ;D
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What context do you need? There's no secret or secondary meaning to what Soros wants and desires, he is very open and honest about it.
George Soros has destroyed the currency of 4 countries in his lifetime, 4...what makes the U.S. any different?
He believes the U.S. is the main problem facing the world as a whole today, he believes that the only way for this "Problem" to go away is to devalue the U.S. dollar and he believes the U.S. government should not be the ruled by the U.S. but by the world as a whole...meaning, everyone gets a say. He believes these actions, particularly devaluing the dollar and creating an open society should and must be done subversively.
What's difficult in understanding this?
pretty simple really
I'd like to read the preceding statements or even better the entire article to find out what they are talking about.
For example these quotes below sound pretty provocative and I'd like to read the entire conversation
My guess is there totally benign and have something to do with whatever he was speculating on at the time or maybe musing about some of his phenomenal trades.
“It is sort of a disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out,” (The Independent, June 3, 1993)
“Just write that the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire,” (The New Republic, Jan 1994)
Soros is a hedge fund guy and he does nothing that thousands of other people also try to do every day
he's just a lot better than most of them
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pretty simple really
I'd like to read the preceding statements or even better the entire article to find out what they are talking about.
For example these quotes below sound pretty provocative and I'd like to read the entire conversation
My guess is there totally benign and have something to do with whatever he was speculating on at the time or maybe musing about some of his phenomenal trades.
Soros is a hedge fund guy and he does nothing that thousands of other people also try to do every day
he's just a lot better than most of them
Soros has said several times over the years that most of his life he's had Messianic fantasies about himself, he's said this in many instances very openly and you can read about them in many of his books and articles. For instance:
“I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of my self-importance—to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes (each with his General Theory) or, even better, a scientist like Einstein (reflexivity sounds like relativity).” (The Alchemy of Finance, George Soros)
http://books.google.com/books?id=JS9HpSYncTMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+alchemy+of+finance&hl=en&ei=3mXcTPipM4-q8AbXz6jcCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=I%20admit%20that%20I%20have%20always%20harbored%20an%20exaggerate&f=false
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Soros manipulates euro - is U.S. dollar next?
Chad Groening - OneNewsNow
A scholar and New York Times bestselling author suspects left-wing billionaire George Soros is trying to manipulate the euro as part of his goal of establishing a one-world currency and a one-world government.
The London Daily Mail and The Wall Street Journal both recently reported on what is being described as an all-star "ideas dinner" in New York City that was attended by some heavyweight hedge-fund managers, including George Soros. During that dinner, several participants argued that the euro is likely to fall to "parity" or equal on an exchange basis with the dollar.
Dr. Jerome Corsi, author of America for Sale: Fighting the New World Order, Surviving a Global Depression, and Preserving U.S.A. Sovereignty, believes this is a George Soros-led effort all the way.
Jerome Corsi"Soros made his first billion in an effort to break the Bank of England when he similarly took short positions on futures and bet against the pound, which was hugely successful," Corsi explains. "That's when he made his first billion dollars. And now he is trying to do the same with the euro -- and the euro is vulnerable because the European Union has got debt problems."
The author adds that while bringing the euro closer to parity with the dollar is good for the dollar in the short term, this is not the best way to go about it.
"We should be bolstering the dollar...but not by taking down the euro," Corsi contends. "In some ways, I'm happy the euro could be taken down. I hope the nation states go back to their individual currencies. But that's not the outcome of this. The outcome is the globalists like Soros will ultimately say, 'Now let's go to a one-world currency and a one-world government."
The scholar concludes that the latter is what Soros has been working to accomplish. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama has done nothing or even said anything about protecting the dollar.
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How could anyone not trust this man? His is such a trustworthy face too. nothing evil here. :D
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Glenn Beck's Horrific Lie -- He Must Be Fired
As much as I disagree with the hosts on Fox News, I have never called for any of them to be fired. I defended Don Imus when he got in trouble with his incendiary comments. That's because I believe a talk show host should have wide berth, even to offend. They are the conversation starters and at the heart of our political discourse.
Of course, as a talk show host I'm very biased on this issue, but I think it helps the national conversation to hear everyone out. That's even if what they're saying is outrageous or not even remotely true. Let there be a battlefield of ideas and I think the truth will win out in the long run (though it loses many battles in the short run).
Now, that you know how strongly I feel about that - I think Glenn Beck should be fired. He has told a lie so grotesque that it goes beyond the pale of even dirty politics. Just when I thought he couldn't shock my conscience anymore, he has done it. Let me explain.
George Soros survived the Holocaust. He is Jewish and when the Nazis caught up with his family his father saved his life by bribing an agricultural official to pretend Soros was his Christian godson. At one point, that man took the fourteen year old Soros to survey and appraise the property that had been confiscated from another Jewish family. Obviously Soros did not have a choice in the matter. Soros eventually survived the Holocaust.
To most this would be an amazing and harrowing story of survival during the Holocaust. To Beck it was an opportunity to paint Soros as an anti-Semite and smear him with one of the worst lies I have ever heard.
First Beck started by horribly warping this story on his Fox News show. He said of Soros:
"[When he was] 14 years old, he had to help the government confiscate the land of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors."
That's not what happened at all as you can see from above. He didn't help confiscate people's land. He didn't actively participate in betraying his Jewish neighbors or friends. The implications are horrible. But what Beck did next is much worse. He twisted the story further until he came out with this inexcusable lie on his radio show:
"[H]ere's a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps."
That lie takes my breath away. That is a lie that cannot be told.
The ADL has now condemned Beck's statements as "horrific."
Michelle Goldberg has a terrific article in The Daily Beast explaining how Beck's two part series on Fox News Channel about George Soros was classic anti-Semitism. He even named the series "Puppet Master." Nazi propaganda used to call Jews the "wire pullers."
The Nazis would say in their propaganda pieces that Jews secretly controlled everything and brought down whatever governments they didn't like. Beck's two part series on Soros talked about how he was the secret force behind the progressive agenda and surreptitiously brought down governments he didn't like (Communist governments by the way, but apparently he doesn't get credit for that). And Beck concludes by saying that we might be next. Soros might destroy our country. This is anti-Semitism 101.
One man has already tried to assassinate people who worked for the Tides Foundation because Beck accused them of being tied to George Soros. That man was caught in a shoot-out with cops before he could kill the people who worked there. Beck undeterred by what he is spurring people to do, has put his foot on the gas pedeal to try to stoke the fires more.
Fox News has told and spread many lies, ranging from the absurd (President Obama is going to spend $200 million a day in his trip to India) to the politically devastating (they invited John Kerry's accusers on-air to smear his Vietnam service repeatedly during the 2004 election). I know that's what they do. But even I didn't know it went this far. If Beck doesn't get fired over this, what else can he say? I literally cannot think of anything more outrageous.
They call themselves a "News Channel." Is this the kind of "news" people want to participate in?
This is the kind of thing people should resign in protest over. This is the kind of thing that guests shouldn't go on the channel over. This is the kind of thing that people shouldn't want their names associated with.
If Fox doesn't fire Beck over this, well then you know exactly where they stand. It certainly isn't as a news channel.
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Glenn Beck's Anti-Semitic Attacks
by Michelle Goldberg
Michelle Goldberg is a journalist and author based in New York. Her first book, the New York Times bestseller "Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism” delved into some of the reddest precincts of the United States to expose the ascendant politico-religious fundamentalism dominating the Republican Party. It was a finalist for the 2007 New York Public Library Helen Bernstein Award for Excellence in Journalism. Goldberg's second book, “The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the Future of the World,” explored the international battle over reproductive rights, and argued that the liberation of women is key to solving the planet's most urgent problems. It won 2008's J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize. Goldberg has reported from countries including Uganda, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, India and Argentina, and her work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The Nation, New York, The Guardian (UK) and The New Republic among many other publications. Her third book, about the world-traveling adventuress, actress and yoga evangelist Indra Devi, will be published by Knopf in 2012.
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The Fox host’s stunning two-day tirade against George Soros is a new low on American television. Michelle Goldberg on the roots of his hatred—and the Anti-Defamation League’s response.
Anti-Semitism, like all ideologies, tells a story about the world. It’s a story about almost occult Jewish power, about cabals that manipulate world events for their own gain. In classic anti-Semitic narratives, Jews control both the elites and the masses; they’re responsible for the communist revolution and the speculative excesses of capitalism. Their goal is to undermine society so that they can take over. Through the lens of anti-Semitism, social division, runaway inflation, and moral breakdown all make sense because they all have the same cause. Nazi propaganda called Jews drahtzieher—wire-pullers. They constitute a power above and beyond ordinary government authority. “There is a super-government which is allied to no government, which is free from them all, and yet which has its hand in them all,” Henry Ford wrote in The International Jew.
Glenn Beck and George Soros. (AP Photos) If you know this history, you’ll understand why Glenn Beck’s two-part “exposé” on George Soros, whom Beck calls “The Puppet Master,” was so shocking, even by Beck’s degraded standards. The program, which aired Tuesday and Wednesday, was a symphony of anti-Semitic dog-whistles. Nothing like it has ever been on American television before.
“There is a crisis collapsing our economy—George Soros,” Beck said on Tuesday’s show. “When the administration and progressives look for a savior to step in and save the day—George Soros… He’s pulled no punches about the end game. It’s one world government, the end of America's status as the prevailing world power—but why?” Because, Beck suggests, Soros wants to rule us all like a God: “Soros has admitted in the past he doesn't believe in God, but that's perhaps because he thinks he is.”
Soros, a billionaire financier and patron of liberal causes, has long been an object of hatred on the right. But Beck went beyond demonizing him; he cast him as the protagonist in an updated Protocols of the Elders of Zion. He described Soros as the most powerful man on earth, the creator of a “shadow government” that manipulates regimes and currencies for its own enrichment. Obama is his “puppet,” Beck says. Soros has even “infiltrated the churches.” He foments social unrest and economic distress so he can bring down governments, all for his own financial gain. “Four times before,” Beck warned. “We’ll be number five.”
Beck went beyond demonizing Soros; he cast him as the protagonist in an updated Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
It’s true, of course, that Soros has had a hand in bringing down governments—communist, authoritarian governments. Beck seems to be assuming a colossal level of ignorance on the part of his viewers when he informs them, “Along with currencies, Soros also collapses regimes. With his Open Society Fund… Soros has helped fund the Velvet Revolution in the Czech Republic, the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine, the Rose Revolution in Georgia. He also helped to engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, and Yugoslavia. So what is his target now? Us. America.”
Beck’s implication is that there was something sinister in Soros’ support for anti-communist civil society organizations in the former Soviet Union. Further, he sees such support as evidence that Soros will engineer a communist coup here in the United States. This kind of thinking only makes sense within the conspiratorial mind-set of classic anti-Semitism, in which Jews threaten all governments equally. And as a wealthy Jew with a distinct Eastern European accent, Soros is a perfect target for such theories.
To inoculate himself against charges of anti-Semitism, Beck hurled them at Soros, pointing out that he’s an atheist and a critic of Israel. He accused Soros of helping Nazis steal Jewish property as a teenager and of feeling no remorse about it. In fact, when Soros was 14 in Nazi-occupied Hungary, his father bribed an agriculture official to pretend that the boy was his Christian godson. Soros once had to accompany his protector to inventory a confiscated Jewish estate. Asked by 60 Minutes if he felt guilty about it, he said no, because he wasn’t at fault. The slander that he was a Nazi collaborator has proliferated on the right ever since.
It’s entirely possible that Beck has waded into anti-Semitic waters inadvertently, that he picked up toxic ideas from his right-wing demimonde without realizing their anti-Jewish provenance. Early on Wednesday’s show, Beck cited the “Prime Minister of Malaysia” on Soros’ villainy. As Media Matters pointed out, he was almost certainly talking about former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad. Maybe he doesn’t know that Mohamad also said, “We do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge, and coincidentally Soros is a Jew.”
“There’s a difference between first-degree murder and vehicular homicide, which is intentionality,” says J.J. Goldberg, a columnist and former editor in chief of The Forward, America’s leading Jewish newspaper. Goldberg wasn’t convinced that Beck meant to attack Jews. Nevertheless, he described the show as “as close as I’ve heard on mainstream television to fascism.”
On Thursday morning, the Anti-Defamation League, which exists to combat anti-Semitism, finally condemned Beck. Earlier, I’d criticized the group for its silence, a change that Todd Gutnick, the ADL’s director of media relations, fiercely disputed. “Sometimes the ADL likes to consider what it’s going to say before it says it,” he said. “In this case we wanted to see the totality of what he was doing on the air before speaking out.”
In a statement, Abraham Foxman, the ADL’s national director and a Holocaust survivor himself, expressed outrage over Beck’s charges about Soros’ behavior as a boy in Nazi-occupied Hungary, which Beck made on television on Tuesday and again on the radio Wednesday. “Glenn Beck’s description of George Soros’ actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top,” said Foxman. “For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say—inaccurately—that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific… To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant.”
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What's so amazing is these people are complaining about Beck taking Soros's own words, direct quotes from his books and interviews and they're calling Beck the liar...laughable!
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What's so amazing is these people are complaining about Beck taking Soros's own words, direct quotes from his books and interviews and they're calling Beck the liar...laughable!
Soros does not even feel and remorse or guilt for anything he has done ! ! !
Shit - I still feel horrible about hitting my little sis with a piece of wood whe I was a kid.
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George Soros survived the Holocaust. He is Jewish and when the Nazis caught up with his family his father saved his life by bribing an agricultural official to pretend Soros was his Christian godson. At one point, that man took the fourteen year old Soros to survey and appraise the property that had been confiscated from another Jewish family. Obviously Soros did not have a choice in the matter. Soros eventually survived the Holocaust.
To most this would be an amazing and harrowing story of survival during the Holocaust. To Beck it was an opportunity to paint Soros as an anti-Semite and smear him with one of the worst lies I have ever heard.
First Beck started by horribly warping this story on his Fox News show. He said of Soros:
"[When he was] 14 years old, he had to help the government confiscate the land of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors."
:D :D :D :D :D not quite the same
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The Soros special Beck did was 3 days long and every quote and fact in regards to Soros is documented on Beck's website as well as much of it on theblaze.com.
There are footnotes provided for every single quote and fact.
This wasn't some arbitrary show they put together, they obviously spent an enormous amount of time putting this together.
I like how these people who are attacking Beck's Soros special do not use one cited fact, they just scream "Beck is wrong" and provide no evidence of proof that he is.
Soros's own words are far more telling than anything...if peoples own words and actions aren't truth, then what is?
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George Soros survived the Holocaust. He is Jewish and when the Nazis caught up with his family his father saved his life by bribing an agricultural official to pretend Soros was his Christian godson. At one point, that man took the fourteen year old Soros to survey and appraise the property that had been confiscated from another Jewish family. Obviously Soros did not have a choice in the matter. Soros eventually survived the Holocaust.
To most this would be an amazing and harrowing story of survival during the Holocaust. To Beck it was an opportunity to paint Soros as an anti-Semite and smear him with one of the worst lies I have ever heard.
First Beck started by horribly warping this story on his Fox News show. He said of Soros:
"[When he was] 14 years old, he had to help the government confiscate the land of his fellow Jewish friends and neighbors."
:D :D :D :D :D not quite the same
you don't see the way he said it was to insight the simpletons [beck watchers]
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you don't see the way he said it was to insight the simpletons [beck watchers]
ha ha ha
Dont you half a thread you have been a called a coward in to respond to?
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It's also amusing how Beck has invited Soros on his show numerous times, offered him the entire hour to come on and speak his mind. He has refused.
Why? Why not go on Beck's show and show the world he's a liar? If it's true, if Beck is lying and fabricating stories out of thin air, this would be your opportunity to shut him up and completely ruin him...why then won't he appear on the show? No sane person who is telling the truth will avoid an opportunity to shed truth on to lies when given the chance, not unless the supposed lies are indeed true.
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Soros does not even feel and remorse or guilt for anything he has done ! ! !
Shit - I still feel horrible about hitting my little sis with a piece of wood whe I was a kid.
:o You have a little sister?! Oh my goodness, the poor thing. lol.
I'm sitting here just imagining what kind of hell you must have put her through when you were growing up.
I could totally see you giving her grief 24/7. lol. ;D
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It's also amusing how Beck has invited Soros on his show numerous times, offered him the entire hour to come on and speak his mind. He has refused.
Why? Why not go on Beck's show and show the world he's a liar? If it's true, if Beck is lying and fabricating stories out of thin air, this would be your opportunity to shut him up and completely ruin him...why then won't he appear on the show? No sane person who is telling the truth will avoid an opportunity to shed truth on to lies when given the chance, not unless the supposed lies are indeed true.
I would highly doubt he would ever want to grace the studios of FOX after this.
A ratings boost would hardly be something he's be inclined to give. He may choose to ignore it, he may not,
...but I doubt he'd be inclined to give Beck or any FOX personality the interview.
Did you notice I said FOX personality as opposed to Fox journalist?
I wonder how long before Greta VanSusteren starts shopping her resumé elsewhere? :-\
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What's so amazing is these people are complaining about Beck taking Soros's own words, direct quotes from his books and interviews and they're calling Beck the liar...laughable!
don't get me wrong, i actually watched this and think beck is dead on.
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I would highly doubt he would ever want to grace the studios of FOX after this.
A ratings boost would hardly be something he's be inclined to give. He may choose to ignore it, he may not,
...but I doubt he'd be inclined to give Beck or any FOX personality the interview.
Did you notice I said FOX personality as opposed to Fox journalist?
I wonder how long before Greta VanSusteren starts shopping her resumé elsewhere? :-\
VanSusteren isn't going anywhere, why would she want to leave the network people actually watch?
I also don't understand the problem so many people have with Fox when it comes to differentiating between hard news and opinion....guys like Beck are opinion shows, they don't pretend to be anything but. Guys like Sheppard Smith are hard news shows. Why is this difficult to understand?
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don't get me wrong, i actually watched this and think beck is dead on.
He's 100% dead on. Soros has been a problem for yrs, he's been a thorn in the worlds side for yrs. He in my opinion, of every nasty and bad thing in the world, he may indeed be the worst, and that's saying something.
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He's 100% dead on. Soros has been a problem for yrs, he's been a thorn in the worlds side for yrs. He in my opinion, of every nasty and bad thing in the world, he may indeed be the worst, and that's saying something.
Does that give a broadcaster license to twist facts?
If he's such a horrible person, ...there should be no need to embellish. Stating the facts should be enough.
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He's 100% dead on. Soros has been a problem for yrs, he's been a thorn in the worlds side for yrs. He in my opinion, of every nasty and bad thing in the world, he may indeed be the worst, and that's saying something.
Look at this David Rockerfeller quote, he's the same type.
"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
These are the kind of guys that are running the show, not Bush and Obama.
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Look at this David Rockerfeller quote, he's the same type.
"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
These are the kind of guys that are running the show, not Bush and Obama.
I have read that quote before - chilling.
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Does that give a broadcaster license to twist facts?
If he's such a horrible person, ...there should be no need to embellish. Stating the facts should be enough.
How do you feel he (Beck) embellished when talking about Soros?
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was awesome
shows soros as racist multination jew who targets currency scams
what do you think fed does? it photcopies billion dollar bill they did nothign to produce anything to back the money the gives to friends
if you did it in jail for countrfeiting
obama let em do 3Trillion sofar
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Beck's Dangerous Campaign
by Kati Marton
Glenn Beck’s anti-George Soros tirade sounds very familiar to me. The Hungarian far right has been leveling those same charges for years, darkly hinting at the financier’s “omnipotence,” his ties to a global conspiracy, and his penchant for bringing down governments (soon our own!). In Hungary, everyone knows these are code words for anti-Semitism. To hear them repeated on our own airwaves in prime time is something else.
Getty Images; Jose Luis Magana / AP Photo
The trouble with George Soros is that, quite frankly, he doesn’t give a damn. Whether the slime is thrown from his former country or from Fox News, he rarely rises to the haters’ bait. Soros has experienced poison from demagogues more skilled (and more heavily armed) than Beck. In a life that has encompassed the most violent hatemongering of the 20th century—from fascism to communism—he flicks off this latest spray and keeps going.
I, however, find it impossible not to speak up when I hear the likes of Beck from the comfort of his armchair charge Soros with anti-Semitism. Beck paints Soros as a Nazi tool for having had the supreme nerve to survive Europe’s most violent Holocaust: the one that swept through Hungary under SS-Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann during the summer and fall of 1944. Eichmann’s was a well-oiled machine by then, and he had to make quick work of Europe’s last remaining intact Jewish community. Even the most deluded Nazis knew the war was over, their cause lost. But Eichmann was determined to finish the job in Hungary. Only the most resourceful and the luckiest survived.
It is well known that the 14-year-old George Soros acted as a messenger of the Budapest Jewish Council, a group of aged and terrified elders who thought if they kept the city’s Jews calm, and followed the Gestapo’s every command, they might survive. Sent to alert Jews to report to various collection points around the city, the young Soros, prompted by his canny father, urged defiance instead. “There was one man I shall not forget,” Soros recalled, “I told him what my father had said. And he answered, ‘Tell your father that I am a law-abiding citizen, that I have always been a law-abiding citizen and that I am not going to start breaking the law now.'" We know how few of those law-abiding citizens survived Eichmann’s barbaric campaign to make Hungary Judenrein. The fact is that only by assuming false identities, through bribery and deception, could people survive that Kafkaesque nightmare. Andy Grove, the legendary founder of Intel, another young Budapest Jew, survived thus, as did my own parents. Raoul Wallenberg, the great Swedish humanitarian, performed his miracles in Budapest partly by forging passports and bribing Nazis.
But there is a danger that goes beyond George Soros in Beck’s demagoguery. Beck’s breathtaking ignorance of recent history might be laughable if it were not for one thing.
Soros played a vastly more historically significant role in ending communism, the nightmare that succeeded the Nazis. Beck depicts Soros as “the most powerful man on earth,” a man who can bring down governments. And Beck is absolutely right on that point. Does he have a clue as to which governments Soros has helped to bring down? I recall in the 1980s my Hungarian dissident friends telling me about this man Soros who was pumping oxygen into a suffocating system. It was in Budapest that he opened his first Open Society office in 1984. At a time when every typewriter had to be registered with the police, Soros smuggled in Xerox machines that soon made a mockery of the state’s tight control of information. Open Societies soon sprung up all over the Soviet empire. Toasting Soros’ 80th birthday last summer, Lord Mark Malloch Brown said four people brought down communism: Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II, and George Soros.
Perhaps Soros is immune to vilification. He seems to take a perverse pride in being the eternal outsider who “belongs to no club or associations.” But there is a danger that goes beyond George Soros in Beck’s demagoguery. Beck’s breathtaking ignorance of recent history might be laughable if it were not for one thing. He commands a huge audience of people who must surely trust him to know what he is talking about.
My Hungarian grandparents did not survive the Nazis, and my parents were jailed by the dommunists. I can still hear my father saying, “It always starts with words. Words matter.”
Kati Marton is an author and journalist who has reported for ABC News, National Public Radio as well as a number of print outlets. She received several honors for her reporting, including the George Foster Peabody Award. Her latest book is The Great Escape: Nine Jews Who Fled Hitler and Changed the World.
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So when obama called the wall street bankers "fat cats" was that anti semtic?
Also Blackass - do you even realize that soros almost single handidly collapsed the currency of a few nations on purpose?
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sorry mr. beckbot just posting other views ;D
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Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 03:35 PM by no_hypocrisy
What will it take to make Beck's listeners turn on him?
A condemnation by Elie Wiesel?
Glenn Beck lashed out at the Anti-Defamation League over its condemnation of his outrageous smear of George Soros as a Nazi collaborator. Beck said that the criticism of his comments was part of a "Soros-started" "smear campaign" and directed his staff to find out "if there's any George Soros money that has gone to ADL."
ADL director calls Beck's smears of Soros as a collaborator "over the top" and "horrific"
Foxman calls Beck's attack "repugnant." On November 11, ADL national director Abraham Foxman released a statement condemning Beck for claiming, during his falsehood-laden three-part series on Soros, that Soros collaborated with the Nazis during the Holocaust. Foxman's statement said, in part, "Glenn Beck's description of George Soros' actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top. For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say -- inaccurately -- that there's a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that's horrific. While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros' views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable. To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant."
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So now describing things that actually happened is anti semtic and defamation? If its so false - let soros or his reps prove beck wrong.
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when your worth billions, i don't think he cares what some piss ant like beck says ;D
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when your worth billions, i don't think he cares what some piss ant like beck says ;D
Yeah ok blackass - Soros sent a rep to threaten Beck. I guess you missed that.
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blackass,ha ahhha did you make a funny ???
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blackass,ha ahhha did you make a funny ???
Soros sent a representative to Beck's people a day or two before Beck ran his "Soros Special? They met in a restaurant in Manhattan outside of Beck's studio. A public meeting that did not end well or quietly. The full details of the meeting, obviously we'll never know but the general gist seemed to be Soros asking Beck not to run the special. It should be noted Soros is the biggest monetary contributor to the Glenn Beck boycott campaigns around the country, such as the ones by Andy Stern, Van Jones and Jim Wallis.
As for Beck's remarks about Soros's activities during WWII, all of this information was gathered from Soros's own words from his own books...every claim Beck made about Soros, where he quotes Soros, is footnoted on his website and on theblaze.com. One can very easily check these for accuracy. So the question in this regards is simple, was Soros lying when he wrote these books or gave interviews or is he lying now? Either way there's no question Soros is a dangerous man. After all, we're talking about the man who broke the bank of England and who did it according to his own words because it was fun.
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Wow.... sounds like a bad dude.
Did palin fire that soros money man who has been working as her advisor for a while?
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Wow.... sounds like a bad dude.
Did palin fire that soros money man who has been working as her advisor for a while?
It doesn't look to me like he was ever part of her staff or her employee. From what this says, he was once hired to do one job for her, he does this sort of work for a number of groups, basically it would seem whoever pays him.
Liberal Bloggers Link Palin Aide to Soros
Meridith Jessup Nov. 12, 2010
In one of the more amusing attempts to discredit Glenn Beck’s week-long expose on billionaire George Soros’ unparalleled influence in global politics, Salon’s Justin Elliott reports that one of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin‘s aides is actually on Soros’ payroll. Scandal!
Uh, not quite.
Elliott writes:
Given Soros’ alleged role plotting to destroy the United States, Beck and his Fox viewership might be surprised to learn that one of Sarah Palin‘s top aides has been on Soros’ payroll for years.
That would be Republican lobbyist Randy Scheunemann, Palin’s foreign policy adviser and a member of her small inner circle. He runs a Washington, D.C., consulting firm called Orion Strategies. Scheunemann and a partner have since 2003 been paid over $150,000 by one of Soros’ organizations for lobbying work, according to federal disclosure forms reviewed by Salon. The lobbying, which has continued to the present, centers on legislation involving sanctions and democracy promotion in Burma.
According to their website, Orion Strategies performs a number of functions, including public relations, political consulting and even advertising. Needless to say, it’s a firm with a broad portfolio.
We advise and consult a variety of businesses (law firms, financial companies, services), organizations (professional organizations, lobbying groups and labor unions), political campaigns and public relation projects. Our political experience includes statewide, congressional, legislative, judicial and county races.
According to Elliot, one of the firm‘s clients is Soros’ Open Society Policy Center, an organization that “encourages Congress and the Administration to press the military dictatorship in Burma to restore political rights and democracy.”
In the course of Beck’s three-day look at Soros’ network of organizations and his links to Democratic politicians, the fact that a top aide to a likely GOP presidential candidate has been retained by a Soros outfit did not come up.
Palin has not commented on the Salon report, nor do I expect her to. The fact that one individual obviously knowledgeable on international politics advised the one-time vice presidential contender is moot and extending this individual connection and extrapolating a wider relationship between Scheunemann‘s entire firm and Soros’ global business empire is a stretch, to say the very least. A further stretch is a conjectured connection between all of this and Beck’s thorough assessment of the controversial billionaire.
After an entire week of reporting the questionable agenda and unchallenged facts presented in Beck’s look at the “puppet master,” is this seriously the best, er, refutation (?) the left can come up with? Fighting facts with sheer (unrelated) speculation?
So, what does this report — touted in the lefty blogosphere today — actually mean? Literally, nothing.
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How do you feel he (Beck) embellished when talking about Soros?
If all Soros did was to accompany a surveyor who went to survey or appraise a property, at the age of 14,
he should hardly be accused as having confiscated property and/or sending Jews to their deaths should he?
That's like someone blaming Dinah Shore for the crimes of slavery, racism, or segregation, because she and her family passed themselves off as caucasian. In times of intense persecution, possibly leading to your potential death, you do what you have to do to SURVIVE, ...and if that means pretending to be something you're not, ...so be it. Best to leave martyrdom to saints. Your job is to SURVIVE!
I'm not saying is an angel. If he is the anti-christ so many believe him to be, there should be ample evidence to convict him. You shouldn't have to make up crap to bolster your case. Furthermore, to play on what must be one of the most traumatic events in a person's life, where they were "the victim", and twist it so that the victim appears to be the perpetrator is beyond low. But blame the victim seems to be a common mantra in many societies. :-\
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If all Soros did was to accompany a surveyor who went to survey or appraise a property, at the age of 14,
he should hardly be accused as having confiscated property and/or sending Jews to their deaths should he?
That's like someone blaming Dinah Shore for the crimes of slavery, racism, or segregation, because she and her family passed themselves off as caucasian. In times of intense persecution, possibly leading to your potential death, you do what you have to do to SURVIVE, ...and if that means pretending to be something you're not, ...so be it. Best to leave martyrdom to saints. Your job is to SURVIVE!
I'm not saying is an angel. If he is the anti-christ so many believe him to be, there should be ample evidence to convict him. You shouldn't have to make up crap to bolster your case. Furthermore, to play on what must be one of the most traumatic events in a person's life, where they were "the victim", and twist it so that the victim appears to be the perpetrator is beyond low. But blame the victim seems to be a common mantra in many societies. :-\
As I said in the previous post, everything Beck said is backed by Soros's own words in his books and interviews. He put footnotes on his website and on theblaze.com regarding these and all the statements made on the Soros special he ran. One can easily go to these footnotes and look at the information for themselves and then judge themselves.
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She also recommended Odonnell use this "man" for her debate prep/
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She also recommended Odonnell use this "man" for her debate prep/
Odonnell did fine in her debates.
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Glenn Beck Sees George Soros as Iran Does
By ROBERT MACKEY
As my colleague Brian Stelter reports, the Fox News host Glenn Beck was accused this week of deploying “a symphony of anti-Semitic dog whistles” in his lengthy attack on the political activities of George Soros, a billionaire investor and philanthropist Mr. Beck repeatedly described as a “puppet master” who “collapses regimes.”
While Mr. Beck has cited his strong support for the state of Israel to fend off that criticism, perhaps the oddest part of his critique of Mr. Soros is that the Fox host appeared to agree with the autocratic leaders of countries like Iran and Myanmar, who see something sinister in the philanthropist’s promotion of democracy.
In his indictment of Mr. Soros this week, what Mr. Beck did not say about the list of governments he claimed the philanthropist had helped to topple was striking. Before naming America as Mr. Soros’s next “target,” Mr. Beck ominously intoned:
Soros has helped fund the ‘Velvet Revolution’ in the Czech Republic, the “Orange Revolution” in the Ukraine, the “Rose Revolution” in Georgia. He also helped to engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia and Yugoslavia.
What Mr. Beck failed to mention is that in each of the countries he named, Mr. Soros in fact provided support to popular pro-democracy groups battling repressive regimes led by Communist or former Communist autocrats. The Fox host also seemed confused about some of the events he described in those nations.
To start with, the mass street protests led by the Czech playwright Vaclav Havel in 1989 that brought down Prague’s Communist regime took place in what was still Czechoslovakia, not the Czech Republic, which did not exist at the time.
There were also no coups in Slovakia, Croatia or Yugoslavia. Slovakia was created by the so-called “velvet divorce,” the peaceful dissolution of the federal state of Czechoslovakia by democratically-elected leaders in 1993; Croatia’s wartime president, Franjo Tudjman, an authoritarian former Communist general, died in office in 1999 and was replaced by a former member of his party after a democratic election; Slobodan Milosevic, the Yugoslav leader who was most responsible for the brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing that killed tens of thousands in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo, resigned in 2000, following street protests after his loss in a democratic election.
Mr. Beck’s suggestion that these peaceful ends to tyrannical regimes would not have come about without money from foreign plotters ignores strong evidence to the contrary, which suggests that in each case civil society groups, with some moral and financial support from the outside world, led popular uprisings against unpopular authoritarian rulers.
The Fox News host also made no mention in his program of the fact — first reported by Justin Elliott of Salon on Friday — that Mr. Soros has paid more than $150,000 to Randy Scheunemann, a Republican lobbyist who is a senior adviser to Sarah Palin, to press Congress and the White House to keep sanctions in place against Myanmar’s military junta and promote a resolution “calling for the immediate and unconditional release of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi,” whose party won the last free elections held in the country. (Laura Silber, a spokeswoman for Mr. Soros’s Open Society Institute, confirmed to The Lede that he had hired Mr. Scheunemann’s firm to lobby in support of democracy in Myanmar.)
In 2008, while he was an adviser to Senator John McCain, Mr. Scheunemann’s lobbying firm also signed a $200,000 contract to work for the government of Georgia, which is still run by President Mikheil Saakashvili, who came to power in the Rose Revolution that was on Mr. Beck’s list of sinister regime changes.
Oddly, Mr. Beck’s conspiratorial reading of the recent history of Eastern Europe puts him in complete agreement with Iran’s intelligence ministry, which for years has been working to discredit the country’s reformist leaders and their calls for fair elections as the puppets of foreign plotters.
Mr. Soros’s name was invoked repeatedly during the show trials of opposition figures in Tehran in 2009, following weeks of street protests over the country’s disputed presidential election. At his trial, an Iranian academic who once received support from Mr. Soros, Kian Tajbakhsh, claimed, in what appeared to be a forced confession, that the country’s former president, Mohammad Khatami, had met with Mr. Soros to plot the overthrow of Iran’s Islamic Republic.
Mr. Khatami called the allegation absurd, but, as The Lede explained in a post on “Iran’s Fear of a ‘Velvet Revolution,’” Iran’s intelligence service seems to be obsessed with Mr. Soros. In an animated television program produced by the ministry for Iranian television in 2008, Mr. Soros was imagined conspiring in the White House with Senator McCain, the C.I.A. and Gene Sharp, a proponent of civil disobedience, plotting to overthrow Iran’s government with the help of Iranian reformists.
A public service announcement made by Iran’s intelligence ministry in 2008, which began with an animated film imagining plotters scheming against Iran in the White House.
Despite attacks from Mr. Beck and Iran’s government, Mr. Soros seems quite proud of his role in promoting democratic change in the former Communist countries of Eastern Europe. The Open Society Institute spokeswoman, Ms. Silber, told The Lede that Mr. Soros did provide financial support to both the Czech pro-democracy group Charter 77 and Poland’s Solidarity movement, which eventually brought democracy to that country too, in the early 1980s. During the same period, Mr. Soros also, “set up foundations in Communist Hungary and the Soviet Union that worked to undermine the repressive regimes there,” Ms. Silber added.
Last year Mr. Soros himself explained, in an article on his work published on CNN’s Web site, what his aim was:
I set up my first foundation in Hungary in 1984. The idea behind it was simple. The state dogma, promoted by the ruling communists, was false and by providing an alternative we could expose its falsehood. Accordingly we supported every cultural initiative that was not an expression of the established dogma.
I was guided by the concept of the “open society,” which I adopted from the philosopher Karl Popper. I saw the open society as a more sophisticated form of social organization than the totalitarian closed societies of the Soviet bloc.
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Odonnell did fine in her debates.
I'm glad that the Soros money man that Palin employed - then recommended here - was able to help her.
Doesn't change the fact she hasn't fired his ass.
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I'm glad that the Soros money man that Palin employed - then recommended here - was able to help her.
Doesn't change the fact she hasn't fired his ass.
You obviously ignored the article I posted.
This argument is like saying Soros had his staff members eat at Chili's, the next day some of Palin's staffers ate at the same Chili's, therefore, Palin and Soros are in the same camp. Or you could use this one, Soros had signs made using XYZ company to make the signs, Palin hired the same sign company XYZ to make her signs, therefore Palin and Soros are collaborating.
Please tell me you can see how ridiculous this is?
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Did anyone else see Beck's piece on George Soros today? It's a two part special on Soros and well worth the watch.
Some interesting things he pointed out today:
*The Stim bill, it was written by a Soros funded group...the Apollo Alliance.
*The Campaign Finance Reform Bill...whose idea? Soros...how did it benefit him? It allows Soros funded groups to be the principle contributors and advertisers.
*The largest media mogul on the planet...Soros.
*The Cap & Trade plan...Soros.
*The banking reform now being proposed by Obama...whose idea, whose model? Soros.
Beck also shows where the money Soros is spending goes...this man has his hand in everything in the United States.
Obama may indeed be a puppet to this man.
George Soros says Obama must go (Pravda Spells it Out)
Pravda.RU ^ | November 22, 2010 | Xavier Lerma
Soros told financiers of the Democratic party that Obama must go. The liberal "Huffington Post" quoted Soros as saying: "...if this president can't do what we need, it is time to start looking somewhere else."
Yes, Soros wants another puppet that he can use to control America with. The one he currently uses has a few broken strings and it keeps going on vacation. Also, his old puppet no longer captivates his audience like it did back in 2008.
Did he really mean that Mr Vachon? Soros' adviser Michael Vachon tried to do some damage control and stated, "Mr. Soros fully supports the president as the leader of the Democratic Party. He was not suggesting that we seek another candidate for 2012. His comments were made in a private, informal conversation that was about the need for progressives to be more forceful in promoting their agenda. He was stressing the importance of being heard by elected officials."
Bull. We know it's crap because when someone talks too much after a question, it usually means they are lying or twisting the truth. Sorry Mr Vachon, Soros already opened his big mouth and said, "...if this president can't do what we need, it is time to start looking somewhere else". Start packing Mr. Hope and Change. Last November 2nd America decided against you and now your Sugar Daddy wants you out.
Sounds pretty clear to me. Especially since Soros refused to donate any money during the last election. He told the New York Times in October, "I'm not in a position to stop it. I don't believe in standing in the way of an avalanche." That "avalanche" was the Tea Party that supported the conservative Republicans. Soros is smart and he knew the Republicans would win and was not about to waste any more money.
Basically, Soros will not put money on a horse if it's going to lose. He's telling the Democrats if they want his $$ money they better get someone who will implement his agenda. As for now, his big money stays locked in the vault.
The "Democracy Alliance" better find someone else for 2012 or their money will fly out the window. Maybe they can make a deal with the Republicans and impeach Obama after January. On the other hand that's not such a good idea. I doubt Soros thinks too highly of Old Joe Biden. Maybe they can somehow scheme their way into getting Hillary Clinton as the new puppet.
The group he was talking to, "Democracy Alliance" (which really means "Marxists of America") are rich Marxists who share the same views as Schwartz (Soros' real name). Schwartz created Democracy Alliance after Bush won the election in 2004. They are all Bush haters. They say they are saving America and the world from wars. However, if they really wanted to stop violence they should have looked at Islamic terrorism years ago.
The "Democracy Alliance" should have started with Islamic nations who started the Jihad. They made the war an excuse to demonize Bush. They really hate Bush because he got in the way of Soros' agenda.
Many thanks to David Horowitz who reveals Soros' goals on discoverthenetworks.org. His parents were Communists and he was a liberal but later he became a conservative. His book, "The Shadow Party:" explains Soros and the Democratic party connection.
Soros admitted he had started shadow governments in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia, and Yugoslavia where coups later occurred. The Democratic Shadow Party resembles those shadow governments.
The Soros Agenda:
-promoting taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand -defending the civil rights and liberties of suspected anti-American terrorists and their abetters -opposing the death penalty in all circumstances -promoting social welfare benefits and amnesty for illegal aliens -defending the civil rights and liberties of suspected anti-American terrorists and their abetters -promoting open borders, mass immigration, and a watering down of current immigration laws -advocating stricter gun-control measures -advocating the legalization of marijuana -promoting the view that America is institutionally an oppressive nation -promoting the election of leftist political candidates throughout the United States -opposing virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by U.S. government, particularly the Patriot Act -depicting American military actions as unjust, unwarranted, and immoral -financing the recruitment and training of future activist leaders of the political Left -advocating America's unilateral disarmament and/or a steep reduction in its military spending -promoting socialized medicine in the United States -promoting the tenets of radical environmentalism, whose ultimate goal, as writer Michael Berliner has explained, is "not clean air and clean water, [but] rather ... the demolition of technological/industrial civilization" -bringing American foreign policy under the control of the United Nations -promoting racial and ethnic preferences in academia and the business world alike
Well, that explains the madness that is consuming America. President George Bush got in the way of all that was listed above. Soros would have done this in Russia but Vladimir Putin is too powerful. Schwartz was afraid he would be put in jail as some of the other oligarchs were if he challenged him. Putin is a good Orthodox Christian and fiscal conservative. Fortunately for atheists, Soros found another country he could control in America.
Soros proclaimed on the show "60 Minutes" that he does not believe in God. Soros as an atheist is not too fond of Christians or Jews. He told CBS in 1998 that he felt no guilt during the Nazi era when he assisted in taking Jewish property. He told CBS reporter Steve Kroft that he was 14 when he watched Jews filling up boxcars as they were sent to their deaths.
Below is part of the interview that Soros the Nazi collaborator easily admitted.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
It's hard enough to trust anybody these days let alone a Nazi collaborator who is an atheist. A selfish atheist who had no problem betraying his people. He freely admitted what he had done but nevertheless he has many people in America who follow him. Hitler had followers too and so does Soros. Did you think the war that ended 65 years ago would not have an aftershock that would reach even today?
Karl Marx said, "Religion...is the opium of the people". Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, Noam Chomsky and George Soros were all born Jewish. They did not practice their faith. They were radicals trying to change society. They all hurt their own people.
He almost did it. Soros almost conquered America. His Democratic Shadow Party controls almost half of it. He still has a small chance to control it all. However, since he believes there is no God he is blind to the effect prayer has on the world. Like Lucifer he cannot see God's true power. His "pride" blinds him. Soros ignorance of God will be his downfall. "He hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart." - Luke 1:51.
AMERICA'S SECRET WEAPON
All the Democrats concluded that the Tea Party was successful because it was heavily financed or that the Democratic message was not clear enough. They will never acknowledge that people who pray can move mountains. Instead they will promote lies and propaganda about any conservative especially if they are Republican. Prayer is America's secret weapon. There are still enough Christians left in America who pray and say "God Bless America!". Soros will never say "God Bless America!".
Fox-o-Phobia
His other nemesis is Fox News. The reason Schwartz has "Fox-o-Phobia" is because Fox News is the only station that uncovers and reports to you what Soros does not want you to know. Why else would he be so afraid of only ONE station when there are several others news station that everybody watches. He likes to tell the lie that Fox is corrupting America but his fear is obvious and he attacks free speech that criticizes or ruins his plan.
Instead of telling you about Soros or having a presentation about Soros on YouTube, I'll let you hear it straight from the horse's mouth. I'll let Soros explain himself to you. Click the link below then ask yourself,
"Do you really want this man to lead America?"
From "The Blaze":
Soros Explains His Anti-Capitalist, Pro-Marxist Tactics
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Quick question 333... how could a person be born Jewish?
and secondly... if one is an atheist, ...how do they betray their faith?
Seems to me the only way an atheist could betray their faith, ...was to pray to God... no?
No one is born into a faith or religion. One finds their own faith... far too often it's by default,
but it's not something one is born with, ...no matter what acts of genital mutilation are permitted to be performed on you
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Quick question 333... how could a person be born Jewish?
and secondly... if one is an atheist, ...how do they betray their faith?
Seems to me the only way an atheist could betray their faith, ...was to pray to God... no?
No one is born into a faith or religion. One finds their own faith... far too often it's by default,
but it's not something one is born with, ...no matter what acts of genital mutilation are permitted to be performed on you
How can someone be born Jewish? Really it's quite simple. The Jews are a race of people, not simply a religion.
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-18-2010/the-manchurian-lunatic
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George Soros Made $7 Million Off Those Body Scanners Everyone Hates
Business Insider ^ | Jul. 14, 2011 | Courtney Comstock
George Soros made around $7 million trading shares of the company that owns those new TSA scanners that everyone hates.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
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Quick question 333... how could a person be born Jewish?
and secondly... if one is an atheist, ...how do they betray their faith?
Seems to me the only way an atheist could betray their faith, ...was to pray to God... no?
No one is born into a faith or religion. One finds their own faith... far too often it's by default,
but it's not something one is born with, ...no matter what acts of genital mutilation are permitted to be performed on you
Jews identify with their Jewish tribe. They do not identify with and do not see themselves as part of the white race.
Hope this helps.
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when your worth billions, i don't think he cares what some piss ant like beck says ;D
That's why Soros has his minions on their blogs, yelping about boycotting Beck's sponsors. ::)