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Title: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 27, 2010, 02:38:13 PM
http://www.chemicalmass.com/showthread.php?t=6896&page=16 (http://www.chemicalmass.com/showthread.php?t=6896&page=16)

the dude is doing 20IU of hgh on monday, wednesday and friday and 10 IU on tuesday, thursday and saturday with IGF-1

expensive as fuck  :o

(I am posting this on the general board because I am GH15's pupil and I can do whatever the fuck I want  8))
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: StickStickly on November 27, 2010, 02:47:16 PM
http://www.chemicalmass.com/showthread.php?t=6896&page=16 (http://www.chemicalmass.com/showthread.php?t=6896&page=16)

the dude is doing 20IU of hgh on monday, wednesday and friday and 10 IU on tuesday, thursday and saturday with IGF-1

expensive as fuck  :o

(I am posting this on the general board because I am GH15's pupil and I can do whatever the fuck I want  8))
Ive heard through the grapevine (Very good sources) that Jay and Ronnie were doing up to 34-6 iu a day.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 27, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
Ive heard through the grapevine (Very good sources) that Jay and Ronnie were doing up to 34-6 iu a day.

I believe it now that I saw the prices you motherfuckers are paying in the USA

 >:(
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: BFG on November 27, 2010, 03:23:25 PM
Ronnie was using 36 iu's gh
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Wiggs on November 27, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
Ronnie was using 36 iu's gh


 :-X...Healthy sport
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: kevinf on November 27, 2010, 03:35:20 PM
http://www.chemicalmass.com/showthread.php?t=6896&page=16 (http://www.chemicalmass.com/showthread.php?t=6896&page=16)

the dude is doing 20IU of hgh on monday, wednesday and friday and 10 IU on tuesday, thursday and saturday with IGF-1

expensive as fuck  :o

(I am posting this on the general board because I am GH15's pupil and I can do whatever the fuck I want  8))

your link doesnt work and i cant register..cliffnotes please!
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Fatpanda on November 27, 2010, 03:37:57 PM
I believe it now that I saw the prices you motherfuckers are paying in the USA

 >:(

mineral water is cheap in america.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: gh15 on November 27, 2010, 10:08:58 PM
while you all imaganing being on stage winnign competition high level ,,the lying profesional is sticking his right delt and left delt with 15 units of gh a day along with various other hormones,,and grow!! do you resally think kuklo your generation nothignes kid would be anything over 170lb with out the hormones? ok he i 5;11 he would be 180lb @10% for few motnhs when clean then back to 15 % at 180 where he belong

bodybuilding = drugs

look at the muscle on the competitor now days,,its all syntetic ,,no hard work ,,no kuklo and no shmuklo ,,all syntetic muscle that dont belong there,,and the worst part is the oil in the arms which any one has including phil heath,,some pull it some dont,,you do it right you pull it ,,you do it wrong ...see greg v

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 01:41:20 AM
while you all imaganing being on stage winnign competition high level ,,the lying profesional is sticking his right delt and left delt with 15 units of gh a day along with various other hormones,,and grow!! do you resally think kuklo your generation nothignes kid would be anything over 170lb with out the hormones? ok he i 5;11 he would be 180lb @10% for few motnhs when clean then back to 15 % at 180 where he belong

bodybuilding = drugs

look at the muscle on the competitor now days,,its all syntetic ,,no hard work ,,no kuklo and no shmuklo ,,all syntetic muscle that dont belong there,,and the worst part is the oil in the arms which any one has including phil heath,,some pull it some dont,,you do it right you pull it ,,you do it wrong ...see greg v

gh15 approved


GH15, as your pupil, I will be the best "all syntetic generation nothingness oil bag" local show winner you have ever saw  8)
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: gh15 on November 28, 2010, 01:43:32 AM
good legit gh shoudl put you in the 200lb competition weight in no time,,do light hesavy go on stage 200lbinsted of your regular 190? 185? in any case go on stage 200 when do the gh after a while,,that will make you winner

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 01:50:45 AM
good legit gh shoudl put you in the 200lb competition weight in no time,,do light hesavy go on stage 200lbinsted of your regular 190? 185? in any case go on stage 200 when do the gh after a while,,that will make you winner

gh15 approved

last show I was 193

now I am 220 in good shape, I should be 198 right now onstage even without the hgh.

hopefully with the hgh, I will be 198 hard as a fucking nail  8)

Stavios will win his first show in the open for the generation nothingness !!!!  8)
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 28, 2010, 03:44:22 AM
your link doesnt work and i cant register..cliffnotes please!

X2, copy and paste please stav
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: buselmo on November 28, 2010, 03:54:42 AM
last show I was 193

now I am 220 in good shape, I should be 198 right now onstage even without the hgh.

hopefully with the hgh, I will be 198 hard as a fucking nail  8)

Stavios will win his first show in the open for the generation nothingness !!!!  8)

LOOOOL
i like your enthusiasm  ;D
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Fatpanda on November 28, 2010, 04:06:59 AM
last show I was 193

now I am 220 in good shape, I should be 198 right now onstage even without the hgh.

hopefully with the hgh, I will be 198 hard as a fucking nail  8)

Stavios will win his first show in the open for the generation nothingness !!!!  8)

any recent pics stud ?
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 08:13:42 AM
any recent pics stud ?

a friend of mine took some 4 weeks ago at the gym but I look like shit in those.

I will post some pics when I am 6% bf or so.

right now I am about 10% bf, maybe a little lower, so that doesn't look good on picture.
I don't have any kind of separation between the muscle groups until I am really lean, and even then it's not that pronounced
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on November 28, 2010, 08:19:46 AM
40iu a day of gh gives you headaches like crazy
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: tbombz on November 28, 2010, 08:56:44 AM
i also heards ronnie was on 36iu per day.


stavios.. your first post in this thread, abotu the guy alternating between 20iugh and 10iugh+igf, while that guy is probably getting great results, the whole alternating and adding in igf thing is not going to make his gh work any better.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on November 28, 2010, 09:30:37 AM
i also heards ronnie was on 36iu per day.


stavios.. your first post in this thread, abotu the guy alternating between 20iugh and 10iugh+igf, while that guy is probably getting great results, the whole alternating and adding in igf thing is not going to make his gh work any better.

Insulin would be more synergistic with growth.

but damn 36 iu/day  :o  :o

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Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: tbombz on November 28, 2010, 09:35:59 AM
Insulin would be more synergistic with growth.

but damn 36 iu/day  :o  :o

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ya, i bet it was american pharamacy grade too, although i think ronnie probably got that stuff for free.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Meso_z on November 28, 2010, 09:42:00 AM
Marcus also used between 34-36 ui's. Ive heard it from a legit source
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on November 28, 2010, 09:48:34 AM
Probably Jintropins 8iu vials... A good 4.5-5 of those every day  :o
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: tbombz on November 28, 2010, 10:48:50 AM
i want free GH  :'(
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on November 28, 2010, 11:23:13 AM
i want free GH  :'(

Your pumpkin head is big enough  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: gh15 on November 28, 2010, 11:26:40 AM
i also heards ronnie was on 36iu per day.


stavios.. your first post in this thread, abotu the guy alternating between 20iugh and 10iugh+igf, while that guy is probably getting great results, the whole alternating and adding in igf thing is not going to make his gh work any better.

yes,,30-38 iu a day at the max,,same for othe monsters,,and it doesnt matter americano or china as logn as legit,, if you can get legit and travel condition is decent!! thats the key

most fellas grow like CRAZY on 15iu gh,,and i mean C R A Z Y growth to the 250 very lean at 5'10,,the reason many stuck at 220-230 8% is because they use only 1/3 the dose as in 5 unit a day or so,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 11:36:54 AM
Probably Jintropins 8iu vials... A good 4.5-5 of those every day  :o

Jintropin are 10iu vials

Hygetropin are the ones who are 8iu
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on November 28, 2010, 11:41:29 AM
Jintropin are 10iu vials

Hygetropin are the ones who are 8iu

Oh yea forgot  ;D
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: dustin on November 28, 2010, 11:44:56 AM
I eagerly anticipate the day when I can afford to abuse the fuck out of gh :)
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 12:07:57 PM
I eagerly anticipate the day when I can afford to abuse the fuck out of gh :)

I could maybe afford 10IU a day if I squeeze my budget a bit.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: el numero uno on November 28, 2010, 12:13:38 PM
I eagerly anticipate the day when I can afford to abuse the fuck out of gh :)

Epic life goals
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Fatpanda on November 28, 2010, 01:58:27 PM
stavios the first time you tried gh, how much did you take ? what else were you taking with it? did you notice any differences at all both in feeling and size /strength gains/bodyfatness
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 02:14:30 PM
stavios the first time you tried gh, how much did you take ? what else were you taking with it? did you notice any differences at all both in feeling and size /strength gains/bodyfatness

I never did more than 5iu.
I tried it with some test, and last year I tried it also but with a primo-anavar cycle.

the hgh seemed to help me stay full while dieting, and accelerated the fat loss, but as far as muscle mass goes it didn't seem to do much at this dose
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Fatpanda on November 28, 2010, 02:18:56 PM
I never did more than 5iu.
I tried it with some test, and last year I tried it also but with a primo-anavar cycle.

the hgh seemed to help me stay full while dieting, and accelerated the fat loss, but as far as muscle mass goes it didn't seem to do much at this dose

were you disappointed then ?
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 02:30:47 PM
were you disappointed then ?

for the price yeah, because it was expensive on the street

but now I can run 10iu for about 500$ so I'll try it for 2 months and then I'll lower it to 5iu per day until the show.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: slaveboy1980 on November 28, 2010, 05:04:48 PM
Epic life goals

 ;D
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: dj181 on November 28, 2010, 05:53:17 PM
Hey Stavios, you look like crap at 10% at 220? I find it hard to believe, coz if you're sitting at 220 at that percentage then you should have enough muscle on your frame to "displace" the fat somehow, if you get what I'm saying?
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 06:01:16 PM
Hey Stavios, you look like crap at 10% at 220? I find it hard to believe, coz if you're sitting at 220 at that percentage then you should have enough muscle on your frame to "displace" the fat somehow, if you get what I'm saying?

no I look good, but on pictures I would look like crap

I am not "fat", not at all actually.
I just don't have separation between the muscle groupe and I have a big frame so on picture is sucks.

I look better onstage when there are people standing next to me
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: g101 on November 28, 2010, 06:15:58 PM
pictures = illusions....

example girls i know look fucking amazing on facebook then irl im like "ok..... nothing special.."  :o
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: dj181 on November 28, 2010, 06:17:21 PM
How tall are you, and how big around are your wrists? Yeah, I know that the second part of that question is a bit strange, but it can maybe give some kind of idea as to your frame size.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 06:57:38 PM
How tall are you, and how big around are your wrists? Yeah, I know that the second part of that question is a bit strange, but it can maybe give some kind of idea as to your frame size.

I am 5'10 and a half, don't know the size of my wrists but they are not that big.

I just have long long arms and legs and wide clavicules.

here is a pic of me from my last show 2 years ago I am on the far left.

even onstage I don't have much separation, I will need to be much harder next time around
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: dj181 on November 28, 2010, 07:16:58 PM
Looking good man! And just because you have long arms and long legs with a wide clavical don't mean that you are large framed. What helps with the appearance of full and seperated muscles are small joints. I'm just your normal everyday twink standing at 5'11" and when I'm very lean sub-7, I don't weigh an ounce more than a buck 60, but as God says, the best I can hope for is about 175 at sub-7 considering my natural status ;D My wrists measure 6 and a half inches, but my skinny twink ass ain't gots no round and full super-hero muscles ;D
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: tbombz on November 28, 2010, 07:29:29 PM
I am 5'10 and a half, don't know the size of my wrists but they are not that big.

I just have long long arms and legs and wide clavicules.

here is a pic of me from my last show 2 years ago I am on the far left.

even onstage I don't have much separation, I will need to be much harder next time around
you look awesome man, your owning those dudes in total size.. in real life theyre are smaller than you for sure.  just have smaller joints/bones so they have an iullsuion of more muscle up ther eon stage.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 28, 2010, 07:38:41 PM
you look awesome man, your owning those dudes in total size.. in real life theyre are smaller than you for sure.  just have smaller joints/bones so they have an iullsuion of more muscle up ther eon stage.

thanks bro !

hopefully when I am 30 years old I will look thick enough !
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Genius on November 28, 2010, 09:45:22 PM
1000-1500mg test/ew
1000mg EQ/ew
plus (proviron..tren..bla bla)

...should take care of the illusion being "tall"  :)

Took care of my "problems"..
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: g101 on November 29, 2010, 12:48:16 AM
im starting to believe more test = no good......

i started reading blogs from european amateur bbers (which look 10x better than our guys here in North America) and these guys basically use low amount of test (like 500mg) and use A SHIT LOADDDD of anablics like tren,mast,primo,var,GH, fat burners etc etc

ive ran a deca + tren cycle for 12 weeks and honestly i havent had a better cycle than that and never ran into any "libido" problems or any bullshit like that, felt amazing

oh but wait its "not good" to run deca + tren.. thats liek suicide   <-- comments like that are retards and havent tried this combo personally and just copy whats on diff boards

JUST MY OPINION GUYS DONT FORGET THAT.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Meso_z on November 29, 2010, 04:28:29 AM
test is the base, no test and you look like a girl.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 29, 2010, 04:50:40 AM
im starting to believe more test = no good......

i started reading blogs from european amateur bbers (which look 10x better than our guys here in North America) and these guys basically use low amount of test (like 500mg) and use A SHIT LOADDDD of anablics like tren,mast,primo,var,GH, fat burners etc etc

ive ran a deca + tren cycle for 12 weeks and honestly i havent had a better cycle than that and never ran into any "libido" problems or any bullshit like that, felt amazing

oh but wait its "not good" to run deca + tren.. thats liek suicide   <-- comments like that are retards and havent tried this combo personally and just copy whats on diff boards

JUST MY OPINION GUYS DONT FORGET THAT.

I agree with you,I used to um 750mg-1000mg Test as my base then maybe 2cc of EQ or something and some tabs thrown in, now im just taking 250mg Test per week and 900mg of EQ and 250mg Deca per week and have a far different results as in looking pumped and lean and hard compared to just looking pumped on my old cycles, i havent blown up in weight fast like i did on high dose of test but i feel that was a lot of water retention! im thinking to double the Deca dose to 500mg as this is my best cycle so far ;)
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 29, 2010, 11:02:22 AM
I'll copy/past some posts

"I think most guys forget that Igf is the byproduct of GH that creates the "anabolic (building) effect".
Since Igf is best 1 mo on/ 1 mo off I use it to build with mega-doses of GH.
On my Igf "on" months I kick my GH to 20 iu. BUILDING MASS
On Igf "off" months GH drops to about 10 iu ED. Maintain gains, continue burning fat.

Natural levels of hGH and IGF1 decline rapidly sometime after 15-20 years old.
Pair this with we usually get on GH cycles at 25-30.
For these 2 reasons I won't run GH without Igf ever again.
UNLESS it was for pure fat loss, sleep , memory , qol , etc.

If it is mass you seek, you get MUCH more bang for your GH buck adding Igf-1.

Life"

not too sure about that, IMO the mega doses of hgh are what cause the growth
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: g101 on November 29, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
I agree with you,I used to um 750mg-1000mg Test as my base then maybe 2cc of EQ or something and some tabs thrown in, now im just taking 250mg Test per week and 900mg of EQ and 250mg Deca per week and have a far different results as in looking pumped and lean and hard compared to just looking pumped on my old cycles, i havent blown up in weight fast like i did on high dose of test but i feel that was a lot of water retention! im thinking to double the Deca dose to 500mg as this is my best cycle so far ;)

very nice!

i think i will run LOW test (250mg/week) with proviron  :D and then all the other anabolics
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Master Blaster on November 29, 2010, 01:00:53 PM
Ronnie was using 36 iu's gh


There was a time I would have called bullshit on that. Now the truth is slowly sinking in.  :-\
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Fatpanda on November 29, 2010, 01:29:09 PM
honestly i shit myself at the thought of touching igf-1, insulin, pgf, etc etc

the late 80's - early 90's was the peak in bodybuilding everything thats become commonplace since i.e. the stuff i mentioned has turned bodybuilders into bloated pigs with no detail, or a bad case of palumboism.

never before these items was there these monstrosities !

i'd give my right nut to look like zane, arnold, mentzer etc let alone nasser, ray, levrone, priest, and the60-70's guys were only on what ?  dbol, deca, primo, and anavar ? they never even used test.

fair enough the 80-90s crowd added test and grew some more, then gh and grew some more + got more shredded ( if it was the gh and not just more gear)

no one on this site looks as good as guys from the 70's let alone the 90's guys - so whats the point in fucking with potentially mutant producing drugs  ???
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Stavios on November 29, 2010, 03:24:54 PM
the point is to mutate  8)
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Schmoe Buster on November 29, 2010, 05:14:56 PM
the point is to mutate  8)

X2 :D
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: MadCroc29 on November 29, 2010, 06:38:27 PM
honestly i shit myself at the thought of touching igf-1, insulin, pgf, etc etc

the late 80's - early 90's was the peak in bodybuilding everything thats become commonplace since i.e. the stuff i mentioned has turned bodybuilders into bloated pigs with no detail, or a bad case of palumboism.

never before these items was there these monstrosities !

i'd give my right nut to look like zane, arnold, mentzer etc let alone nasser, ray, levrone, priest, and the60-70's guys were only on what ?  dbol, deca, primo, and anavar ? they never even used test.

fair enough the 80-90s crowd added test and grew some more, then gh and grew some more + got more shredded ( if it was the gh and not just more gear)

no one on this site looks as good as guys from the 70's let alone the 90's guys - so whats the point in fucking with potentially mutant producing drugs  ???

but ur fat!
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Fatpanda on November 30, 2010, 11:37:29 AM
but ur fat!

but ur mad.
Title: Re: Pmq answered: interesting protocol for HGH !
Post by: Master Blaster on November 30, 2010, 11:44:20 AM
but ur fat!

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