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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: StickStickly on January 18, 2011, 01:17:25 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/video/health-15749655/reagan-brothers-feud-23874660
Interesting story here. What do you think of Reagan's son being a liberal? What do you think of these claims where he noticed his father having issues while still in office.
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I would also like to point out how interesting it is that many Reagan followers switched over to Liberals in the 90's. Maybe coach can enlighten us on that since he voted Clinton. Even Hillary was a republican and later switched over to Democrat.
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Ron Reagan Jr is trying to make waves since a lot of people have been talking about his dad over the last few years. I look at him as a spoiled brat that got coddled by Nancy.
A lot of people voted for Clinton because Bush Sr lied about raising taxes and thought he should be worried about what was happening here in the United States instead of policing the world. I voted for Clinton as well, but wouldn't vote for another democrat unless they were for fiscal responsibility, lower taxes, and also personal responsibility.
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Another failed thread by the ever failing left....hahahahaha!
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Ron Reagan Jr is trying to make waves since a lot of people have been talking about his dad over the last few years. I look at him as a spoiled brat that got coddled by Nancy.
A lot of people voted for Clinton because Bush Sr lied about raising taxes and thought he should be worried about what was happening here in the United States instead of policing the world. I voted for Clinton as well, but wouldn't vote for another democrat unless they were for fiscal responsibility, lower taxes, and also personal responsibility.
Yes but there were quite a few who made the jump permanently. How do you explain those men and women? I don't see Ron Reagan as spoiled. He obviously cared about his father and wanted to see stem cell research advance so he could have helped him. If you watch the funeral seen it seems like Michael is in the back standing awkwardly. Maybe he wasn't the favorite?
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Another failed thread by the ever failing left....hahahahaha!
The only thing that failed in this thread was your effort to illicit a well thought out response but what could i have expected from you ::). You don't have two brain cells to rub together... much less 2 dicks :)
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I'm surprised he could string those 2 letters together. I guess when the only degrees you have are personal training certificates from online websites it leaves much to be desired. He didn't even finish college. Probably do to coke bad coke habits developed at the local fraternity houses which he blamed on the liberal institution known as state funded education.
Anyone in Cali want to put roach out of business go to their website and take the test for 129 for a years certification. I passed the first time with flying colors. All i'd have to do is pay.
http://www.americansportandfitness.com/collections/certifications/products/personal-training-certification?gclid=CNafqrTxj6MCFRMBbAodRneepA#
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What's american sport and fitness?
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guy of a trader son is trying to sell a book. He's making it up for publicity. Reagan is the man. If I was in the Reagan family I would have that son killed.
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#### of a trader son is trying to sell a book. He's making it up for publicity. Reagan is the man. If I was in the Reagan family I would have that son killed.
That sounds like really good republican family values.
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What's american sport and fitness?
Same as your AFFA bullshit you use now :)
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What in THEE hell is AFFA? You have head up yur ass.
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Pretty sure those are Goodrums certs noob.
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ron reagan the greatest 8 years of real econmoic growth in a long time
paul krugman and other idiots can write defamation novels for 1000 years but people remember the real prosperity that flies in the face of the democrats hopes and wishes of massive government spending
the failure of obama and the scaricuty his policies engender are unamerican
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economists are the authority, not politicians.
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big ray ray almost spilled the beans about ufo's to the united nations one time.
so close but yet so far..... :'(
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ron reagan the greatest 8 years of real econmoic growth in a long time
paul krugman and other idiots can write defamation novels for 1000 years but people remember the real prosperity that flies in the face of the democrats hopes and wishes of massive government spending
the failure of obama and the scaricuty his policies engender are unamerican
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yP_apKse5Nk/TD1ca3dcFWI/AAAAAAAAAfg/317lTOCLp5k/s1600/national_debt.jpg)
Republicans spend like there is no tomorrow and don't give a fuck about accountability. I hate to break it to ya sweet heart.
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hillary was never a republican.. she was a liberal all through her college and university days.. she represented the black panthers on their legal team.. where do you get she was a republican:? also, during clintons admin there was numerous demos that switched sides the to the repubs (that was the 90's you speak of).. that far outweighed any repub switch overs.. as for ron jr.. his father was not in agreement with him and the other reagan children have recently said his book was.. well.. not so truthful.. or shall we say the truth according to ron jr.. this is ron jr 15 minutes of fame.. he did not agree with his father and caused him much embarrassment during his presidency and after..
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hillary was never a republican.. she was a liberal all through her college and university days.. she represented the black panthers on their legal team.. where do you get she was a republican:? also, during clintons admin there was numerous demos that switched sides the to the repubs (that was the 90's you speak of).. that far outweighed any repub switch overs.. as for ron jr.. his father was not in agreement with him and the other reagan children have recently said his book was.. well.. not so truthful.. or shall we say the truth according to ron jr.. this is ron jr 15 minutes of fame.. he did not agree with his father and caused him much embarrassment during his presidency and after..
In 1965, Rodham enrolled at Wellesley College, where she majored in political science.[16] During her freshman year, she served as president of the Wellesley Young Republicans;[17][18] with this Rockefeller Republican-oriented group,[19] she supported the elections of John Lindsay and Edward Brooke.[20] She later stepped down from this position, as her views changed regarding the American Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War.[17]
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lol.. as a college student she "considered" herself a republican?? then civil rights and vietnam comes along and she switches sides.. lol come on.. if vietnam and civil rights ect ect made her become a die hard democrat and considered a liberal activist do you really even believe that she had conservative beliefs..? how much of a republican was she??? trust me, she was always liberal leaning.. you dont just have a "miracle" and switch ideology like that.. unless you are huffington..
she once said she was "a liberal heart and a conservative mind".. she was brought up in a conservative house and when she got out of it her ideology changed.. sorry.. but she was always a liberal.. i have seen this numerous times.. kids go off to college and change their politics.. does not mean she was a devote republican by any means.. means she was a daddy's girl and did what she thought she should..
i dont care either way.. i am liberal on some social issues.. conservative fiscally.. conservative on some other social issues ect ect.. but i can tell ya that die hard liberals scare the hell out of me as much as die hard christians.. neither side is playing with a full deck..
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Republicans spend like there is no tomorrow and don't give a fuck about accountability. I hate to break it to ya sweet heart.
Soooo naive.
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Soooo naive.
You are too or you forget pretty easily
Both sides spend like there is no tomorrow so by defending the republicans like this you are actually supporting the very people who are ruining this country. Obamas is not ruining this country the spending is and the republicans spends just as much
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yP_apKse5Nk/TD1ca3dcFWI/AAAAAAAAAfg/317lTOCLp5k/s1600/national_debt.jpg)
Republicans spend like there is no tomorrow and don't give a fuck about accountability. I hate to break it to ya sweet heart.
"Deficits don't matter"
--Dick Cheney
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joe perhaps if your government didn't spend so much money on illegal wars you would have plenty of growth and money for healthcare ???
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Little clue for you "political geniuses..." the President does NOT control the purse strings.....during majority of Clintons years, guess who controlled them?
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Another failed thread by the ever failing left....hahahahaha!
When will you suckas learn..its not a left or right thing.. BOTH SIDES SUCK. Please please name off some awesome accomplishments by the right.. and ill name ten failures...
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When will you suckas learn..its not a left or right thing.. BOTH SIDES SUCK. Please please name off some awesome accomplishments by the right.. and ill name ten failures...
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I think the best situation is for the Pres to be from one party, Congress controlled by the opposite. Keep all these idiots in check to a degree.
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We need term limits, and make these jobs part time and shrik the govt by at least 50% as well as get rid of most agencies.
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I think the best situation is for the Pres to be from one party, Congress controlled by the opposite. Keep all these idiots in check to a degree.
We were at our best during the Clinton/Newt Era
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We were at our best during the Clinton/Newt Era
I agree. A President who didn't try to "reinvent the wheel" and Newt was much more of a truly fiscal conservative....it was a good balance.
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http://news.yahoo.com/video/health-15749655/reagan-brothers-feud-23874660
Interesting story here. What do you think of Reagan's son being a liberal? What do you think of these claims where he noticed his father having issues while still in office.
I think his claims are bogus. And, Jr. just admitted to such.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/01/18/ron_reagan_admits_he_got_facts_wrong_about_alzheimers.html
In short, he's simply trying to hock his book to liberals, to cash into the 100th anniversary of his dad's birthday (which many conservatives will honor).
The mainstream media often goes into heat, when they learn the adult offspring of a famous conservative is a liberal.
That's why they've been slobbering over Meghan McCain and, now Ronald Reagan Jr.
They don't seem to be quite as interested when a relative of a liberal (perceived or actual) happens to be a conservative.
Notice how Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's niece, Dr. Alveda King, hardly gets as many invites on the "mainstream" media.
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I agree. A President who didn't try to "reinvent the wheel" and Newt was much more of a truly fiscal conservative....it was a good balance.
the All or none gubment lets a bad idea go from inception to realization with out a shotgun rider to say "hey hit the brakes... this is some bullshit"
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the All or none gubment lets a bad idea go from inception to realization with out a shotgun rider to say "hey hit the brakes... this is some bullshit"
haha, exactly....when either side is unchecked.....wow, they do some stupid stuff. Or they just freeze like a deer in the headlights and do nothing for fear of the party being blamed....ala, when Bush had a Repub majority and they did shit-all to try to reign in spending....but then again Newt was probably the last true fiscal conservative we've had on the national stage....but even he was limited by what his party was willing to do.
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We need term limits, and make these jobs part time and shrik the govt by at least 50% as well as get rid of most agencies.
True
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haha, exactly....when either side is unchecked.....wow, they do some stupid stuff. Or they just freeze like a deer in the headlights and do nothing for fear of the party being blamed....ala, when Bush had a Repub majority and they did shit-all to try to reign in spending....but then again Newt was probably the last true fiscal conservative we've had on the national stage....but even he was limited by what his party was willing to do.
Obama came in with a bunch of bozos in the house and senate and just went slap crazy.
Bush and the neo cons came in ...and..well.. we know how that went
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Obama came in with a bunch of bozos in the house and senate and just went slap crazy.
Bush and the neo cons came in ...and..well.. we know how that went
It's been that way for awhile from both sides.....sad really.
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Republicans spend like there is no tomorrow and don't give a fuck about accountability. I hate to break it to ya sweet heart.
I hate to break it to ya sweetheart, but its the House of Representatives that controls spending, not the President.
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You are too or you forget pretty easily
Both sides spend like there is no tomorrow so by defending the republicans like this you are actually supporting the very people who are ruining this country. Obamas is not ruining this country the spending is and the republicans spends just as much
Really?????
Largest Bush deficit : Fiscal Year 2008 $455 billion
Smallest Obama deficit: Fiscal Year 2010 $1.3 trillion
It doesnt look like Republicans spend as much as Democrats to me. Oh, and by the way, that 2010 fiscal budget includes almost all of TARP being paid back. And it STILL was only $125 billion below the 2009 fiscal year budget deficit. If you think the Rpeublicans are just as a big of a problem as the Democrats, you have your head up your ass.
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"Deficits don't matter"
--Dick Cheney
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He meant that small deficits dont matter. Big deficits do matter.
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When will you suckas learn..its not a left or right thing.. BOTH SIDES SUCK. Please please name off some awesome accomplishments by the right.. and ill name ten failures...
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there is no comparison. Everything the left touches turns to crap. THe only failure of the right I can think of in the past 30 years is the downfall of religion in our society. And theyre only halfway responsible for that.
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I think the best situation is for the Pres to be from one party, Congress controlled by the opposite. Keep all these idiots in check to a degree.
Certainly divided government has worked well in the past, but a lot of that was luck. It is not guaranteed to work. A lot of things have to come into place. In the 80s you had Democrat House that had been in power for 30 years that had to work with a Republican President who won in a landslide. In the 90s, you had a President who was such a narcissist that he was willing to go against the ideology of his own party to do what the country wanted. He did things that no Republican President would be able to do. He had conservative Dems like Dick Morris advising him. Do you know what party Morris belongs to now? I will give you a hint. Its not the Democrat Party and its not the Losertarian Party.
But while Bush was admitadly not ideal with Dennis Hastert, he was made far worse by Nancy Pelosi. And in the 1920s, which was one of the biggest eras of prosperity in our history, the Republicans controlled virutally all levels of government. Divided government does not always work and one party rule is not always bad.
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there is no comparison. Everything the left touches turns to crap. THe only failure of the right I can think of in the past 30 years is the downfall of religion in our society. And theyre only halfway responsible for that.
Iraq? .. are you fuckin serious... You think Repubs have been flawless.. you smokie da wacky tobacky
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Iraq? .. are you fuckin serious... You think Repubs have been flawless.. you smokie da wacky tobacky
Maybe Iraq was unnecessary or ill advised, but if that's the one thing you can point to, its a pretty weak argument. There is a democratically elected political structure in place, Saddam is dead and we are leaving the country in about a year. Also bare in mind that if Saddam had allowed the UN inspectors to do their jobs, there wouldn't have been an invasion. Saddam is just as much to blame as Bush in that regard.
It should also be noted that Bill Clinton's impotent sanctions along with UN corruption also spearheaded the second Iraqi invasion.
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Iraq? .. are you fuckin serious... You think Repubs have been flawless.. you smokie da wacky tobacky
The health/drug/medicin plan Bush signed was fucked too
And dont forget he bailed out Wall Street the fucking commie
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No Democrats voted to go to war with Iraq.
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No Democrats voted to go to war with Iraq.
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In case you need a refresher, here's the list of Democrats who voted to give George W. Bush the power to spend $200 million a day in a war that gave us no "weapons of mass destruction" yet which has displaced as internal refugees more than 2 million Iraqis and forced another 3 million refugees to move to places like Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey and Gulf States.
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
http://www.culturekitchen.com/liza/blog/5_years_4000_deaths_later_democrats_who_voted_for_
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No Democrats voted to go to war with Iraq.
Im not sure maybe they were goin off the information given to them by Bush cab.. ? Maybe
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The health/drug/medicin plan Bush signed was fucked too
And dont forget he bailed out Wall Street the fucking commie
No child left behind is working awesomely huh
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Im not sure maybe they were goin off the information given to them by Bush cab.. ? Maybe
Or how about Bush admin was going off of intel given to them by the intelligence community.... ;D
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Im not sure maybe they were goin off the information given to them by Bush cab.. ? Maybe
Do you mean the information that was given by the CIA to Bush? That is the same information that Bill Clinton supported. That the UN and Britain's intelligence confirmed. The same information PASSED ON and AVAILABLE to the entire Congress.
The notion that somehow Democrats and Republicans did not have access to this information is wrong. Bush didn't give them anything nor relay anything on his own. He repeated, like Obama does with his teleprompter, what the intelligence community told him.
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Regardless, Democrats are supposed to be very intelligent. If Bush lied to them, as some imply, why couldn't ALL of them discern it as some sort of ruse and vote against the war.
Fact remains that there were Democrats, some who right now are in the current President's cabinet, who voted for the war. Those Dems can't blame Bush or the Republicans. They should only blame themselves.
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Do you mean the information that was given by the CIA to Bush? That is the same information that Bill Clinton supported. That the UN and Britain's intelligence confirmed. The same information PASSED ON and AVAILABLE to the entire Congress.
The notion that somehow Democrats and Republicans did not have access to this information is wrong. Bush didn't give them anything nor relay anything on his own. He repeated, like Obama does with his teleprompter, what the intelligence community told him.
So it was or wasnt a bad decision spearheaded by Repubs?
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So it was or wasnt a bad decision spearheaded by Repubs?
Based on what the CIA, UN, Britain, Saddam's own actions and with the stamp of approval from the Dem's beloved Clinton, AT THAT TIME it was the correct decision.
Knowing what we know NOW, USA should have stayed out of Iraq. But that is now. Hindsight is always 20/20.
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democrats are morons
nuff said
if all dems left country wages would rise as would wealth for all
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Haven't had a chance to comment much on stickly's thread addressed to me but....its not a secret that Reagans son "Ron" is flaming lib so calling me out on something the world knew before you were born I guess would be new to you. Barbara Walters was quoted that she was around Reagan more than almost any reporter and she saw no signs of what Ron Jr. Is claiming. I'd be willing to bet his brother micheal beat the shit out of him daily!!
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reagan was an awesome president. A true uniter.
walters surely isn't going to say anything negative about the man since he is regarded so highly and above all, he has passed away.
I think it's safe to say that while he was certainly NOT disagnosed alzheimers while still in office - Reagan did show some signs of SENILITY during his last 2-3 years in office.
Google it. Leslie Stahl nearly broke the story in 1986. White House made it clear he couldn't be asked Qs... he was very sharp on memories from acting days, but other things...
Well, we're all human. Reagan was well into his 70s at that point, and we all have grandparents with 'senior moments'... where their memory and concentration fails them. It happens. I'm sure he wasn't Alzhemiers in the 1980s... but he definitely had some issues. Reagan's mother had senility issues for years before being diagnosed with alzheimers. Reagan was very sharp in the early 90s on a larry king interview, but there may have been times early on when it came and went. Let's see how sharp any of us will be at age 75. here's reagan as early as 1984 having a very awkward moment.
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No Democrats voted to go to war with Iraq.
Everyone and their mother was in favor off that war after 9/11
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I'll take a senile Reagan over the majority of the morons who have been at the helm since him. And Reagan's other son, the normal one, trashed "Ron" for this.....it's just a publicity stunt to try to sell his lameass book.
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I'll take a senile Reagan over the majority of the morons who have been at the helm since him. And Reagan's other son, the normal one, trashed "Ron" for this.....it's just a publicity stunt to try to sell his lameass book.
eh, maybe. More than likely though, it's an honest quote that people feel hurts that sacred memory too much - and he said alzheimers when he should have alluded to dementia or senility.
Anyone who believes Reagan was at 100% for the last four years is delusional.
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eh, maybe. More than likely though, it's an honest quote that people feel hurts that sacred memory too much - and he said alzheimers when he should have alluded to dementia or senility.
Anyone who believes Reagan was at 100% for the last four years is delusional.
A 25% Reagan is still a million times better than a 1000% Obama.
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A 25% Reagan is still a million times better than a 1000% Obama.
A 25% Reagan
Geez.... not another Palin thread ;D
Don't pick up the national enquirer today bro.... you'll blow a fuse...
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Geez.... not another Palin thread ;D
Don't pick up the national enquirer today bro.... you'll blow a fuse...
Why? Did they find the long form BC?
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Why? Did they find the long form BC?
Let's just say this one may not have a happy ending... ;)
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Let's just say this one may not have a happy ending... ;)
Sounds like another CT.
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Sounds like another CT.
yep. but it involves a maseusse, hence the 'happy ending' quote. :P
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yep. but it involves a maseusse, hence the 'happy ending' quote. :P
That artice made it sound like more than a hand job was going on.
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eh, more tabloid garbage. national enq ain't exactly a reliable source.
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Republicans spend like there is no tomorrow and don't give a fuck about accountability. I hate to break it to ya sweet heart.
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240 gets owned to oblivion and trolls me in about 5 threads from 5 years ago..lololololololololol ololololololol.
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240 gets owned to oblivion and trolls me in about 5 threads from 5 years ago..lololololololololol ololololololol.
Trump is the one doing the owning.
Clinton talks him into running and repubs welcome him with open arms. I'm in complete disbelief.
And every time Trump decides to claim he's being just like reagan? oh no
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240 gets owned to oblivion and trolls me in about 5 threads from 5 years ago..lololololololololol ololololololol.
5 years later you still offer any type of refuting argument other than :
"HAHAHA"
"You just don't get it"
"lib this... lib that"
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240 gets owned to oblivion and trolls me in about 5 threads from 5 years ago..lololololololololol ololololololol.
wait...
a former dem president (clinton)
tells a former dem donor (trump)
to run against his dem wife (hilary)
and shit all over her potential opponents (jeb, rubio, rand)
after being paid $250mil from liberal network (NBC)
after making the #1 way to bring down obama a joke (birtherism)
and now keeping hilary out of news (servergate)
and a former clinton voter (you) somehow own me into oblivion?
Huh?
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5 years later you still offer any type of refuting argument other than :
"HAHAHA"
"You just don't get it"
"lib this... lib that"
Or maybe you're just illiterate. lol
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But while Bush was admitadly not ideal with Dennis Hastert, he was made far worse by Nancy Pelosi.
Underage teenage boys were actually much worse off under Hastert.
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Another failed thread by the ever failing left....hahahahaha!
Reagan has best 8 year economy. Much better than bill I caused 2008 by making mortgage industry big clinton.
Wikipedia incorrectly says billy had biggest 8 years
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Reagan has best 8 year economy. Much better than bill I caused 2008 by making mortgage industry big clinton.
Wikipedia incorrectly says billy had biggest 8 years
yes it so big, biggest in density but half the volume
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Or maybe you're just illiterate. lol
Or maybe you are just stupid. That is most likely the case here.
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Republicans spend like there is no tomorrow and don't give a fuck about accountability. I hate to break it to ya sweet heart.
I dont know if your son made that graph, but it kinda leaves out obama going from 8T debt to 19T debt in 7 years, with insane inflation, bailouts, forced unionization of fedex, and obamacare!! easily owrst prez ever by numbers