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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Topic started by: Jr. Yates on August 18, 2005, 06:49:47 PM
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hey guys just because your bigger than average people, are others scared of you cuz your size cuz i've never faught and guys have said to me that they wouldn't even try. I ask why and they say look at you your huge! Being bigger does give me more confidence though but it doesnt mean i could knock a skinny guy out
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yea, obv the bigger you get the more confidence you have, and the less likely people will be to talk shito you
however, more than a few people have learned t ehard way being able to squat twice as much as someone else doesnt mean you will beat the same guy in a fight. genearllly, the more fights you have been in th ebetter you are, and the less you have to lose the better youare for some stragne reason.
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and guys in clubs (fighters) will pick a fight with the biggest guy just to make his mark so the more you lift the more you gonna get fights thrown at you i guess
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I heard from many people that Tank Abbott got his ass lit up a few times at the club he worked at. And yes there are always some little man who wants to show off to his buddies that he picked on one of the big bouncers. Too bad in my day that only led to the guy getting medical attention from the paramedics or at the least taken away by the cops. Plus it was always good to have 2 or 3 guys working with you that you could trust to watch your back. I defintiely had those.
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cool story
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kinda like valintino's story about marky mark and the funky bunch in the limelight
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hey guys just because your bigger than average people, are others scared of you cuz your size cuz i've never faught and guys have said to me that they wouldn't even try. I ask why and they say look at you your huge! Being bigger does give me more confidence though but it doesnt mean i could knock a skinny guy out
pffffffff u aint that big, i coud take u ;)
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I'll tell you...
I am shorter,,5'10 but big in size.
I never get people my height saying anything,,but these 210 6'3 guys always have something to say.
It gets annoying having taller guys always stepping up as if fighting a guy 6 inches shorter will impress anyone.
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you outta clock em one in the chin
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eat2grow can't do that
eat2grow proven himself to be a coward
at least to me personally
the boy likes to talk shit but he'll change the subject REAL quick when he's forced into a confrontation
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I've gotten into a few bar fights in my hay day... Just cause I'm 5'3 I would catch alot of shit from drunks. They felt stupid when I would over power them and pound them into the ground... I don't go to bars anymore because of that reason.
Peace,
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I've gotten into a few bar fights in my hay day... Just cause I'm 5'3 I would catch alot of shit from drunks. They felt stupid when I would over power them and pound them into the ground... I don't go to bars anymore because of that reason.
Peace,
I love it when people underestimate the short guys!
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I've gotten into a few bar fights in my hay day... Just cause I'm 5'3 I would catch alot of shit from drunks. They felt stupid when I would over power them and pound them into the ground... I don't go to bars anymore because of that reason.
Peace
can't agree more. Down in PB (Geo knows where that is) I always got kicked out of bars because I "looked angry", so being shorter I had to "push" through the crowd, and then get kicked out.
Outside the bar, I would catch shit from the drunks that also were kicked out.... nothing like being shorter and sober and kicking the shit out of geo,,I mean the old drunk guys.
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eat2grow can't do that
eat2grow proven himself to be a coward
at least to me personally
the boy likes to talk shit but he'll change the subject REAL quick when he's forced into a confrontation
BTW, I have never met you GEO,,so how have you ever confronted me? I threatened to come over to the river an take your pict. to post,,,and you told me that your personall life is none of the board business. So I took pity on your old ass and never took the pict. Besides, your not worth the $3 it would take to drive up there.
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size plays a role. there's a reason most bouncers are big as well as their weightclasses in boxing etc.
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the only thing becoming a bouncer does for you is make you head strong.....your the big tough guy whose there to fight if he has to so they walk around all the time thinking hey im a bouncer for a living...im paid to be big a prime example is Vin Diesel....that bouncer attitude is still with him and he always plays a tough guy in his movies and i'm sure he thinks hes big huge shit i read that he got into a fight in a club once and the guy knocked him out within 2 seconds because vin diesel was acting like he owned the world.
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There are different classes of bouncers weither you call them security, crowd control, person redirectors, privite event staff or just plan Bubba. Just plan Bubba will work the beer bars (live band on the weekends joints) like around PB and other parts of San Diego beaches that I'm familar with. Bubba will be very large but slow in wit and thinking ability. He will be strong as an ox and may use blunt force. Bubba may be black, white, Samoan or mexican. He will grab, grapple bum rush out the door any one he gets the OK from. Usually the bar manager. If Bubba needs a background check it will be forgotten or just made up for the ABC records. Bubba will make beer money and not much more. May even get to nail a few of the older women drunks at the end of the night.
The upper class bouncer (remember they are still bouncers for want of a better name or duty's) will usually be a former Israeli special forces agent (they call them agents) along with former British troopers with experience in Northern Ireland and portions of Africa. These guy's speak more than one language which can be very helpful. Retired U.S. navy seals and special forces are also recuited. Intell now-a-days is more important that just physically removing a potentional trouble maker in a crowd/event. Upper class bounchers work mainly high cash flow event, auctions, ceo gatherings, etc. A steady worker can earn in the six figure yearly income. Highly bonded & insured. Higher class women (and some prime hookers) are usually attracted to these guy's. And one that I had know before married a very wealthy lady. Lives in Brentwood last I heard.
Then there are the mid-level bouncer who works at clubs, sporting events,concerts, new movie openings, etc. Club gigs are the most dangerous jobs. The bouncer may or may not get a voucher for emergency treatment in case of being cut, shot or hit with an object. These bouncers are hired for size, height and having a bad to the bone look/attitued. Will usually hold a background in boxing, fighting, etc. Most often ex jocks. A few have done joint time in front of or behind prison bars. Seems more brothers are being hired than ever before lately. A few Mexican & south sea islander's are being employed more also. But a lot of white boys are still in the mix. They tend to be floor/pit boss. The most dangerious time for any of these bouncers is after 2 am sunday morning in any bar parking lot. You must leave after hours in pairs and have come in the same vechile for safty sake. Of course if any one hooks up with a hottie than their on their own. They will usually be require to be bonded which in most cases doesn't mean too much but looks good on a legal contract.
BB'er make poor bouncers for the simple reason that they do not have the experience of handling a out of control drunk or some other hot head. You have to have the knowledge of handling two or more sometimes and try to talk them down at first. BB'ers for the most part do not have the holding or redirection skills of showing a trouble maker out the door. Bouncing is a lot like having football, wrestling or martial arts (not karate which has way to many flaws for it to be effect in a tight crowd) skill's of using leverage and weight/pressure against an unwilling person(s) who does not want to go in the direction you want him to. A bouncer does not want to throw a punch ever. Those 21" guns may look great in a mirror but actually using them in a possible real life fight is a far different thing.
A good bouncer is above all a thinking person who will prefer brain power over brawn but will still reley on his size, strength and look to establish his rule over any unexpected troublemaker. He will also workout heavy on a regular bases to still get stronger. I've worked out with quite a few of them.
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thats interesting I'd like to see what some of the bouncers are like at nice clubs in the world but where i'm from all the bouncers are just hot heads standing infront of a rundown building.
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Geez JPM not sure where I hang in those ratngs. I was big but very nice. The girls loved me and the waitress really loved me cause I would give them massages all the time. I hated to fight but didn't mind it if the guy was an asshole. I have a very high tolerance for ignorance. The thing that set me off the most was when a guy wouldn't listen to me. Like at closing when we give them a 30 minutes heads-up on closing and they order a beer and still have it a half hour later and won't leave until they finish. Then the guys who show-off when they are with their girlfriends.
At Tequilla Willies which was the #1 bar/restaurant in Los Angeles for 3 years was awesome. I remember this guy in a suit he was at least 6'6" 250 or so. He is there with a bunch of suits. He is drunk as all shit and being loud and rude to everyone. Well one of the waitress came up to me to tell me he grabbed her ass. So I watched him as she walked by. And he grabbed her ass. So I went up to him very politely and told him I saw him grab her. He went off calling me a fucking liar and a roid baby and whatever. She I told him he gotta go and he said no so I grabbed his arm and he pulled back really hard and said if I touch him again he will call the cops. I said fine but you gotta go and grabbed him again. This time he tried to throw at me. I quickly grabbed his tie and and through him down and literally drugged him out by his tie. Outside he got up. This time though behind me are my felllow bouncers. Bob Sear who had a body that rivaled Arnold's was 6'3' 275, Ron Gibson at 5'9" 260 and our resident bad ass Jim Flarety. The guy gets up and says to me "what is your name I am going to report you" I said It's Keith Jones. He then says "Not your stage name, your real name" I thought that was funny. Anyway he left. And the good thing about working there was the management was behind the bouncers 110%.
Another time I was working at a country western bar and one of the other bouncers pulled a guys hair out as he was pulling him hrough the bar. This guys head was bleeding so bad. This bouncer Bill B. was a bad ass. He had piles of hair in his hand. He literally pulled this guys hair out of his head. The guy ended up sueing the club and won and the club closed. A couple old bouncer stories
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Onlyme:The few times I spent eating breakfast at Denny's in San Clemente from 3am to dawns early light in the morning (then go down to the pier for fishing ) with some north county local bouncers I must have heard dozens of story's like yours . Always interesting, never dull. Don't know how long ago you bounced but with everone being sue happy now-a-days these gentlemen really have to watch their act. Being nice is the first option because usually way to many witnesses around to be anything but.
Some of the worse bars are the biker bars who hire their own as bouncers usually for a case of beer or maybe a few rocks which they can sell later. And some of the many new Mexican clubs(northern rancho music mostly) have a hard time holding down stabbings & shootings though not all are reported to the cops. They also protect their own. Too much smoke, meth & coke in both those kind of places for a person with a reasonable mind.
Where was Tequilla Willies...LA...south bay...valley...?
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Man fuck that. I'm sick and tired of these motherfuckers acting like tough shyt when U AINT TOUGH SHYT bitch! Fuck that
Give me a knife and i'll take care of ur neighborhood bully.
And all these, or should i say most of these pricks who were bunch of "punks" in high school. Now they going to college, pump up on the steroids up their azz walking around and talking like a "man??" Dickheads, "oh i'm so big look at me stereoids got me looking like arnold, i compete on state" haha fucking fruitcake, man stfu
Fuck that, lets see how cute he looks when he bites the bullet or gets a buck fifty across the face. Lets see how really tough these fuckheads are?
If ur a real man, u dont start shyt. U only act as a man when u get disrespected. And if ur some tough shyt, then keep beefing with people. Because sooner or later ur bitchazz gonna get it, we all bleed the same way dont we?
P.S. Make sure u pick up Slim Thugs and Jim Jones album! New York's rider man
peace
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does how strong you are mean you have the ability to beat down a weaker person? and does size mean you can take more hits than a skinny person?
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does how strong you are mean you have the ability to beat down a weaker person?
in most cases, yes.
http://and does size mean you can take more hits than a skinny person?
to your head, no. to your body, yes.
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iv heard that naturally big people have bigger neck mussles and the bigger ur neck mussles are the more powerful blows u can take is that true?
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All I gotta say is no matter how big or tall the other guy is you can always kick out his knee cap and they fall like a ton of bricks... Helps when your only 5'3 ;D
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Tequillie Willie was in Manhattan Beach, CA (Southern Cal). It sold more liqour than any othe club in LA. It was awesome there.
On a quick note. Girls were among the worst. I had to through this girl out for just being a huge bitch to everyone. She ended up throwing her drink on me. I grabbed her (bear hug) she couldn't do shit. Got her outside. Then her friend kicked me in the back and literally both these chicks started wailing on me. I never wear jewelry but at that time I had a $1,200 gold chain I wore. Well one of the bitches tore it off and it ended up going down the gutter drain in the street. That's when I went crazy and finally fought back. I slapped one of them she fell, the other looked at me called me some bad names and they left. One of the other bouncers got jumped by some chicks to. So we all decided that we tell the girl one time to settle down or they will be treated like any guy. That was awesome. Cause I fnanly got to shut a girl up later on and it was fun.
We actually got a special commendation from the police department on how good we were. We (the bouncers) were kind of famous too. Allot f girls from all over the world came there. And they would tell their friends about us. We woudl get gifts from girls from all over the place delivered by their friends when they came in. It was the funniest 2 years I have had at any job ever.
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ok your bigger, more muscular and stronger than the person your fighting. you know nothing about boxing etc, and the other person may/may not.. whats the best and safest way to kick their arse? like the best way you can use your strength?
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iv heard that naturally big people have bigger neck mussles and the bigger ur neck mussles are the more powerful blows u can take is that true?
no i dont think this is true, im just getting into bodybuilding im now 170, 2 years ago i was and amateur boxer, that lasted 4 years.
Being a smaller guy ive always noticed that bigger guys seem to try to pick on you alot to look tough, now im not saying im the toughest guy in the world dont get me wrong but ive had alot of fights whether that be a good thing or a bad thing, and i can say ive knocked out guys twice the size of me, i once one punched a 325 pound guy with a shot to the sturnum.
One of the big problems ive had is now that ive had quite a few fights and pretty much gotten it outta my system, lots of people know that i can fight and will just come after me to beat me and look tough themselves, i find myself always on the defensive now.
If theres any advice i can give to someone it would be the same advice my father gave to me about fighting, "never go out looking for a fight, cuz thats when you'll get your asked kicked, i dont care how big you are."
Where im from theres a real cocky hockey player weighing about 375, hes not even that fat, hes a tall mutha fu*ker, and he kicks the shit out of people all the time while playing hockey. While in the bar one night he was picking on a guy about my size all night, pushing him around and calling him names, finally the guy said ive had enough i dont care if i get my asked kicked and they went outside, the guy my size (170) and he was about 19 years old, one punched him, i mean knocked him right out cold.
So like a said, dont go picking fights, you dont know who you'll find
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take martial arts classes is the best way.ive been heavily involved over 20 years.the confidence you get is usualy more than enough for anyone to ever pick a fight with you.fastest way to take someone down is punch/jap/strike to the throat, stomp on their feet with heel (these bones shatter easy) or kick/punch to the groin.theyre down and you can walk away.you dont need any of that fancy crap it looks good on tape and at our demonstrations is all, in real life we all use the basics.
learn on the ground techniques since most fights end up on the ground.learn close quarter combats will make you a force since most people dont know what to do in close combat.
boxing,kickboxing,taekwondo etc isnt going to teach you how to defend yourself (i took taekwondo for over 10 years and have a black belt , this is for demonstration, fun,flexiblity,speed etc.not to defend yourself hence why its a sport not a martial art.)they will teach alot of the basic things towards learning to defend yourself however such as balance,speed,strength,flexibility etc.they have a great deal of usefullness but dont think theyll teach you selfdefense.
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My old man used to always have one thing to say to me in regards to clubs/bars & fighting.The guys that talk the talk usually can't walk the walk! It's the quiet guys that don't say much ya gotta be very careful w/because they'll put you on your ass very quickly!
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Man, i used to love door work, I was one of the lucky bouncers who could talk my way out of anything!!!
I remembert his one club we were doing , it had a pretty bad problem and the time and me and a friend were brought in to be a bit of extra help around the place while it was going through a bad patch.....anyway, this one night a guy shows up HAMMERED, he was all over the shop. I stopped him at the door and told him he was just too drunk, that if I let him in i would be worried about him all night, so I couldn't do it. Said "Buddy, go home, come back tomorrow a bit less drunk and in you go."
So this guy wobbles off and i think no more about it, seemed like a nice dude. About an hour later my mate doing the door with me jumps about three feet in the air and points behind me, I turn around and there is this dude wobbling down the road holding a fucking SWORD. Well, i just want to lock up the door and let him fuck off, but there was people walking up and down past the club, and i didn't want to leave some unsuspecting bastard to run into this dude, so I stayed where I was, I was in the middle of the doors, my mate was stopping people from going out so that was okay.
Being in the middle of the two doors meant the guy couldn't swing the sword, he'd had to jab or charge, and i could either just duck back or slam the door on him. He was also completely wasted so i reckoned his co-ord was off, granted i was taking a huge risk.
Anywho, this dude wobbles up to the door and say " You'd better let me in man, or i'll fuck you up" , took a while to figure out what he was on about.
I said "Man, i can't let you in with that sword, i'll get fired!"
Drunk dude "YOu better let me in or i'll fucking cut you."
Me "Man , i'm deadly serious, if i let you in I'm fired, if I get fired my girl will kill me. Then i'll get really pissed off and probably go out, and get hammered and do something stupid and end up in trouble even more.......I can;t do it."
At this point he mumbled something , but i have never been able to figure out what is was, so i repeated myself about the club having a pretty strict NO FUCKING SWORDS policy.
Anyway, all of a suddent he guy is like "Sorry........man........ .trouble and shit.......i'm a go home.............sorry"
and off he goes. Man , i must of talked my way out of a hundred weird situations on doors. Loved it though.
I always tried to be nice, talk first, try and make em laugh, let people see your only human and whatever agro they had will go no further than that night and i always found people would respond well.
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aye scuplter yer exactly right. the reason is the talkers have something to prove, the quiet ones have confidence and dont need to prove anything theyre the dangerous ones always. the louder they talk the less they know.
my favorite tough guy line is " i dont need martial arts to fight, im a streetfighter" lol classic those guys will get owned for sure
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lol "pretty strict no sword policy" thats good
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aido you sound like a nice guy and a very patient man lol i woulda taken his sword
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I could have disarmed him easy enough, but three things could have happened if something went wrong, 1 ) I get hurt bad 2 ) He gets hurt bad 3 ) Some fool who thinks he can help gets hurt bad, so talking was just the better solution.
Plus it was a pretty crazy town , so trouble was to be expected and this guy probably shat himself in the morning when he remembered what had happeneed ( I hope!!)
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yup talking your way out is always the best way out.just wish it was always that easy lol.
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Man f**k that. I'm sick and tired of these motherfuckers acting like tough shyt when U AINT TOUGH SHYT bitch! f**k that
Give me a knife and i'll take care of ur neighborhood bully.
And all these, or should i say most of these pricks who were bunch of "punks" in high school. Now they going to college, pump up on the steroids up their azz walking around and talking like a "man??" Dickheads, "oh i'm so big look at me stereoids got me looking like arnold, i compete on state" haha fucking fruitcake, man stfu
f**k that, lets see how cute he looks when he bites the bullet or gets a buck fifty across the face. Lets see how really tough these fuckheads are?
If ur a real man, u dont start shyt. U only act as a man when u get disrespected. And if ur some tough shyt, then keep beefing with people. Because sooner or later ur bitchazz gonna get it, we all bleed the same way dont we?
P.S. Make sure u pick up Slim Thugs and Jim Jones album! New York's rider man
peace
I nominate this one as top five meltdowns of the year. See u in December. Peace.
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I could have disarmed him easy enough, but three things could have happened if something went wrong, 1 ) I get hurt bad 2 ) He gets hurt bad 3 ) Some fool who thinks he can help gets hurt bad, so talking was just the better solution.
Plus it was a pretty crazy town , so trouble was to be expected and this guy probably shat himself in the morning when he remembered what had happeneed ( I hope!!)
my gosh aido, you're such a badass. ::)
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No Sarcasm , not really , or were you completely missing the point of my post? I can take care of myself, because these days you need to be able to , but I prefer a quiet life to be honest.
Oh I'm sure that you can bench 500 pounds, and once beat 12 people and there dogs in a street fight, and i'm sure that everyone who knows you respects you but also holds that little twinge of fear that you really want to inspire in people, but some of us just prefer to live our lives, have brief chats on Getbig and then get on with living.
I'm sure in time you shall mature into a well adjusted person, when you do, feel free to engage in conversation. My story was told for the humour value, if you want stories where I had to take someone down, I don't post that kind of thing, if you want stories where I took a beating then there are plenty of them too.
Unlike most people on this site dude, I'm just posting truth, if you don't like it, don't read it bro.
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aido for president 8)
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I don't care who or what fighting experience any man has.If talking street fight & a man has you on the ground pinned & you can move an arm grab the guy by the nut sack & squeeze hard!You'll be surprised how quickly the guy will be willing to get the f off of you to save his capability of having children!On another note I saw a man on his knees once getting puched in the face by another guy standing over him.Well, this guy on the ground just up & upper cutted the guys nut sack!Only time I ever saw anyone get knocked out by a punch to the nut sac & he dropped real quick :D.
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If you have a strong and muscular neck and traps, it will help you take punches to the head cuz those muscles absorb alot of the blow. Fighting always sounds good until the police show up and put your ass in jail, then it's nothing but lawyers, court dates and jail time.
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I enjoy reading the posts here where ppl. think that because a bb'er is big that they can actually fight lol.Being big & a person's size has f all to do w/how a person can handle themselves in a fight.I would suppose that their is a lot of ppl. here that believe that a person can be killed by a punch that will drive their nose bone into their brain also lol.
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Most BBs I see in clubs cant fight for shit. They usually are wearing t-shirts from baby gap that are so tight they cant fucking move. ;D They must spray the bastard things on.
Only joking
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I wouldn't say BBing/weightlifting helps you fight better, because a good shot to the jaw and you'll go down just like anyone. I believe it will help you if you get it a scuffle and you end up wrestling around, as just being heavier than the other guy will help in that situation. On the other hand, a guy who was a college wrestler will more than likely take you down pretty quick, even if you outweigh him by 30 or 40lbs (unless, of course, you punch him in the face first!).
I think it DOES keep you out of certain situations if you have some decent size on you and you aren't a dickhead. I mean come on, who is gonna start shit with someone who's 275+ and not looking for trouble?
One more thing - true story, too. A guy driving cuts off another guy (weightlifter). BBer beeps horn, other guy gives finger and starts screaming at him. Things escalate and both pull over. Other guy gets out and starts walking toward BBer. BBer gets out, other guy sees he's a big dude and goes back for his handgun, shoots BBer dead. No moral here, except maybe check your ego.
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Being a big guy is a double edged sword. In the gym, you get looked at with respect. People come up to you and ask questions. They watch as you lift heavy and shake their heads in disbelief.
On the other hand, at the bar/club is a different story. Guys I don't even know come up to me and try to start shit. No provocation whatsoever.
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I wouldn't say BBing/weightlifting helps you fight better, because a good shot to the jaw and you'll go down just like anyone. I believe it will help you if you get it a scuffle and you end up wrestling around, as just being heavier than the other guy will help in that situation. On the other hand, a guy who was a college wrestler will more than likely take you down pretty quick, even if you outweigh him by 30 or 40lbs (unless, of course, you punch him in the face first!).
I think it DOES keep you out of certain situations if you have some decent size on you and you aren't a dickhead. I mean come on, who is gonna start shit with someone who's 275+ and not looking for trouble?
One more thing - true story, too. A guy driving cuts off another guy (weightlifter). BBer beeps horn, other guy gives finger and starts screaming at him. Things escalate and both pull over. Other guy gets out and starts walking toward BBer. BBer gets out, other guy sees he's a big dude and goes back for
his handgun, shoots BBer dead. No moral here, except maybe check your ego.
Good points here, however BB does help you fight better. Before i started BB I could'nt fight for shit. Now after 15 years BB I have built up my fighting skills to the level where I can't fight for piss. :D
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Another point: When you're a big guy and drunk as hell, you tend to fall easier. Especially in snow/ice. That happened to me, and the guy I was fighting jumped on my back and started wailing away with haymakers.
I threw him off, but he and his buddy jumped into a cab and the cab sped away. :-\
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I've never in my life have someone actually pick a fight with me. Most of the fights i have been in were from helping others. I hate it when a bigger guy picks on a smaller guy or more than one guy picks on one guy. I love it when there is 2 more people.
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Man f**k that. I'm sick and tired of these motherfuckers acting like tough shyt when U AINT TOUGH SHYT bitch! f**k that
Give me a knife and i'll take care of ur neighborhood bully.
And all these, or should i say most of these pricks who were bunch of "punks" in high school. Now they going to college, pump up on the steroids up their azz walking around and talking like a "man??" Dickheads, "oh i'm so big look at me stereoids got me looking like arnold, i compete on state" haha fucking fruitcake, man stfu
f**k that, lets see how cute he looks when he bites the bullet or gets a buck fifty across the face. Lets see how really tough these fuckheads are?
If ur a real man, u dont start shyt. U only act as a man when u get disrespected. And if ur some tough shyt, then keep beefing with people. Because sooner or later ur bitchazz gonna get it, we all bleed the same way dont we?
P.S. Make sure u pick up Slim Thugs and Jim Jones album! New York's rider man
peace
I have no idea what 98% of that means.
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Guys look I am not sure how this became about bouncing instead of being big but its real simple
Me at 250 can kick the shit out of me at 180
Its that simple can me at 250 beat somebody else at 180 maybe yes maybe no but the point is at 250 I have a better chance than at 180
It certainly is not going to hurt to be jacked when your in a fight
Even if your a complete toolbag with the coordination of a baboon your dangerous at 300 pounds
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BB'ing kept me from having conflicts. I started into it heavily when I joined the military. When I was 180lb it seemed like I was always in the middle of something. I can honestly say I have never started a fight but I can say to that I always had a problem just walking away. I noticed though as I progressed in the gym, the conflicts became less & less. I'm 6'0 & weigh between 240-245. I stay in pretty good shape & cannot remember the last conflict I was in. Being big did not make me a better fighter, but I guess it made the others think twice about starting something. When I lived in Atlanta, I use to hang out at this huge country bar called "Cowboys Nightlife". Wall to wall beautiful women. And being a country bar it attracted it share of red-necks too. One night the pro wrestler "Buff Bagwell" was in there F-ed up & messing with this tall skinny guy. Dude was prob. 6'3 & all of 200lbs. Buff was a decent sized guy too & being a pro-wrestler,had the tough-guy image. You could tell the skinny guy was kind of scared & kept telling Buff he didn't want any problems, but for some reason Buff kept f'ing w/him. So bar closes & we're outside talking to some girls & Buff is standing about 10yards or so from the exit doors talking to some ladies. Tall guy comes out, Buff sees him & starts f'ing with the guy again. Guy trys to walk away ,still telling Buff he doesn't want any problems. Some of my friends & myself are telling Buff to leave the guy alone already, Buff keeps on. Finally, the guy has enough turns around & tells Buff," F-it let's go"! They square off & I swear the skinny guy almost beat Buff half to death. I mean it wasn't even close, he had Buff on the ground & just beat the f*ck out of him. Bouncer literally came out & drug him off the big bad wrestler & drug Buff inside. Cops showed up & we left. True story. The morale of that story is, big or not, you don't ever know who your starting sh*t with & what that other guy is capable of doing. Big does not make you bad.
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In '03 I was in a road rage incident like the above one. Guy followed me with 2 girls in his SUV, chicano gang banger type. I get right out, he sees I'm about 250ish so he hesitates getting out on me and I'm being cool but telling him he needs to watch his driving. Anyways, his GF is a "wanna be type" so shes kind of egging him on and then he jumps out and clocks me but not phased I got to wrap him up but SHE gets out and has aluminum BB bat hands it to him. I see it and get my arm up to block a 2h shot for my head.
At this stage I realize I might be dead in 30 seconds so I take off he chases me I end up in a dead end behind a real estate office (up in Ojai, CA of all places!!!). I turn about and he is there cranking up again I tried for the bat and MISSED he hit me in the base of my skull but then I just ran back where I came from. I ran back the other way she had started the SUV and he broke my window then got in and after me but it was time for him to split because a market owner had called the cops. Lucky for all he had also got the license number this guy went to prison about 4yrs sentance. Not sure if she got convicted.
Moral of story: It is really easy to get killed guys so however big you are check your ego as the above stated. In hindsight, the lifting saved my life BECAUSE I took two good pops from a ballbat and walked away unphased. However being that big gave me confidence to get out of the car when I should have just kept on driving or drove to the police station in Ojai and he would have been cited at the least.
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Which is why despite being above average size , I have a conceled weapons permit & in a situation like that, I would not heistate to use my little buddy. That situation could have ended really bad for you Al. You got lucky.
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Which is why despite being above average size , I have a conceled weapons permit & in a situation like that, I would not heistate to use my little buddy. That situation could have ended really bad for you Al. You got lucky.
Yes, I too am a member of the CHL club. I originally got it to carry while collecting rent at my grandfather's rental properties (not very desirable neighborhoods). Luckily I have only had to show it twice and both times the showing of the weapon was enough to prevent any further conflict.
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I boxed for many years before I even picked up a weight. With 10 years of bodybuilding behind me I've gotten a fairly impressive body. I'm not that big, but have the buff look plus I can through hands with the best of them. Knowing this keeps me out of more trouble than I used to get in before bodybuilding. It's the intimidation factor that keeps drunks away. I hate bar fights, someone always gets hurt and I usually get blamed, even though I only fight to protect myself or my friends. The big arms and chest work as a warning that this dude packs a punch to the normal drunk, but before bb, I was just as bad, but didn't have the look that bodybuilding gives you and it's kept me out of trouble many times, even when I just wanted to trough a short one to the solar plexus, the most painfull body shot next to the famous Mexican left hook to the liver and body shots aren't bloody, just PAINFULL as ever and will bring down somebody twice your size and you don't break your hands ;D. So you can leave before anyone knows exactly what happened. Peace is better, but always pack an equalizer, in my case a punch, cause some people still don't get it.
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I've never in my life have someone actually pick a fight with me. Most of the fights i have been in were from helping others. I hate it when a bigger guy picks on a smaller guy or more than one guy picks on one guy. I love it when there is 2 more people.
I've been a bouncer for over a year now and I haven't had anybody try to pick fight with me. Every once in a while you will get a smartass, but as soon as you stare into their eyes and tell them like it is, or they know they have your direct attention, they back down. They always talk big from a distance. But when you get close, it's a different story. Being big does help. But like alot of guys have said, you gotta know how to handle yourself.
We had a guy pull a machete out from his car a month ago. We don't play around. We just stroamed his arse, cuffed him and called the cops. Done deal.
I just get sick of babysitting drunks and listening to them biotch, and puking and falling. Seeing titties is nice though.
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you sound really tough, "get bigger". ::)
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you sound really tough, "get bigger". ::)
Well since were not all as big as you are Sarcasm, some of us need every edge we can get. ::)
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Well since were not all as big as you are Sarcasm, some of us need every edge we can get. ::)
oh, i'm not anywhere near as HUGE as you, i mean you're a BOUNCER aren't you, i admire you.
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I've bounced in nights clubs on an off ever since college & ive also faught the last 10yrs of my life...jujitsu & Mixed martial arts!
I've been in couple MAJOR bar fights & had guys waiting on me outside many times to just run their mouths & then walk off..But at the sametime, ive also had guys come into the bars knowing im working & hearing about my background & trying & sometime actually getting in fights just so they could have a shot at me! Foolish on their part but nontheless it happens.
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Its funny that guys want to test the reputation like that.
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Its funny that guys want to test the reputation like that.
your right man, childish...Usually to try to impress some girl! Now that im married? I get my kicks in bouncing, not fighting anymore.
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Nothing to do with BB but about picking fight because of reputation. At my birthday dinner in Vegas in 90' or so I was with Chuck Norris. Was just talking and he was or just finished working on a movie in the Phillipines I think. Anyway, some guy comes up and asks Chuck for his autograph and Chuck gave it to him. The guys was pretty small and defintiely smaller than Chuck. He said something to Chuck about not ever wanting to fight him or someothing. Anyway we sit back down and Isaid something to Chuck in regards to what the guy said about guys picking fights with him. He said it hardly ever happens but it did happen while shooting over in the Philipines. He said he was at a club with Howard Jackson (his bodyguard and good friend) and some little filipino guy came up to Chuck saying how tough he was and could kick Chucks ass. CHuck said he just tried to ignore him but the guy wouldn't leave him alone. Well then Howard came up and asked the guy to leave. The guy said something like get the fuck outta the way black. And Howard knocked him out with one punch in about a half a second. Howard too was a world champion martial artist.
I personally can't remember a single person ever coming up to me to challenge me but I have had 3 and one time 4 guys. I love those odds. The only thing is I had friends with me just not right next to me. It ended in a fun way. They layed there and we walked away. Alwasy the best way to end a fight.
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haha
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Odds are never in your favor bouncing.......
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I think most Bodybuilders biggest threats are those dam ninjas, just ask Flex.