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Here it is folks...
Edge defeated Dolph Zigler to retain world title
Miz defeated Orton to retain WWE title after C.M.Punk interfered.
The diva's title match turned into a fatal 4-way with Eve winning the title.
Albert Del Rio (of all people) won the royal rumble.....
Booker T made a surprise entrance as did KEVIN NASH!! Booker T is in the middle of negotiations with the WWE but not quite ironed out yet. Nash will take a backstage role capacity. Ray Mysterio was said to have injured his otator cuff. Wow....
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Albert Del Rio (of all people) won the royal rumble.....
Booker T made a surprise entrance as did KEVIN NASH!! Booker T is in the middle of negotiations with the WWE but not quite ironed out yet. Nash will take a backstage role capacity.
It's obvious they read our board.
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It's obvious they read our board.
;)
Maybe we should conjure up some hardcore storylines then. ;D At least they will attract viewers.
No HHH at the rumble? What are they waiting for? Hmmmmmm
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Here it is folks...
Edge defeated Dolph Zigler to retain world title
Miz defeated Orton to retain WWE title after C.M.Punk interfered.
The diva's title match turned into a fatal 4-way with Eve winning the title.
Albert Del Rio (of all people) won the royal rumble.....
Booker T made a surprise entrance as did KEVIN NASH!! Booker T is in the middle of negotiations with the WWE but not quite ironed out yet. Nash will take a backstage role capacity. Ray Mysterio was said to have injured his otator cuff. Wow....
Not only did Nash return, he's back as DIESEL (apparently, if he has a contract, there's plenty of Grecian Formula in the deal, as his hair is jet black again).
And, of course, the winner of the 2011 Royal Rumble.........
ALLLLLLLLLLBERTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEL RIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
;D
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A lot of smarks dump on him, but I like Kevin Nash.
I think his understanding of the business grew by leaps & bounds since his VERY green earliest days.
With his "advanced" age, he's probably wiser, hopefully more mature, and if he's not in an on-air role, I suspect his ego will be in a lot better check - as opposed to when he was given the WWF belt in the 90's.
And, aside from the jaded & bitter, it sounds as if most guys like and respect Nash; at least, as of the most recent years.
For these reasons, I believe that Nash will be a good person for this role.
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A lot of smarks dump on him, but I like Kevin Nash.
I think his understanding of the business grew by leaps & bounds since his VERY green earliest days.
With his "advanced" age, he's probably wiser, hopefully more mature, and if he's not in an on-air role, I suspect his ego will be in a lot better check - as opposed to when he was given the WWF belt in the 90's.
And, aside from the jaded & bitter, it sounds as if most guys like and respect Nash; at least, as of the most recent years.
For these reasons, I believe that Nash will be a good person for this role.
Nash & Vince always got along very well. I think he'd be a good road agent backstage.
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A lot of smarks dump on him, but I like Kevin Nash.
I think his understanding of the business grew by leaps & bounds since his VERY green earliest days.
With his "advanced" age, he's probably wiser, hopefully more mature, and if he's not in an on-air role, I suspect his ego will be in a lot better check - as opposed to when he was given the WWF belt in the 90's.
And, aside from the jaded & bitter, it sounds as if most guys like and respect Nash; at least, as of the most recent years.
For these reasons, I believe that Nash will be a good person for this role.
Did you hear the chants from the fans? "DIESEL, DIESEL, DIESEL!!!" Boy, the fans were happy to have him back. I wish he'd thrown out a few more bodies in the Rumble. Actually, I wanted to see him and Kane lock up.
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Did you hear the chants from the fans? "DIESEL, DIESEL, DIESEL!!!" Boy, the fans were happy to have him back. I wish he'd thrown out a few more bodies in the Rumble. Actually, I wanted to see him and Kane lock up.
No, I didn't see it.
Was Nash actually IN the Rumble?
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No, I didn't see it.
Was Nash actually IN the Rumble?
Yep!! Big D drew number 32!
The crowd went nuts. I forget exactly who he threw out. But, shortly afterwards chants of "Let's go DIESEL!!" thundered through the arena.
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Yep!! Big D drew number 32!
The crowd went nuts. I forget exactly who he threw out. But, shortly afterwards chants of "Let's go DIESEL!!" thundered through the arena.
Then he's not gonna spend ALL of his time hidden backstage.
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Do you recall what music he came out to?
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Do you recall what music he came out to?
A remix of his "Diesel Blues" music from the mid-90s.
See for yourself:
As I said, Big Daddy Cool must have a healthy supply of Grecian formula in his contract.
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Some more RR 2011 notes:
The biggest pops went to Booker T. It was huge, almost as big as Cena. CM Punk was huge over with the crowd and there were several loud CM Punk chants.
Kevin Nash’s entrance got a nice pop but not as big as Booker T or Cena .
The Miz got a nice pop for his win . Even Dolph Ziggler got over many fans as chants started for him vs. Edge, but Edge fans won out by a wide margin.
After Nash was eliminated the ref ran up to him, based on what he did, to wait for Big Show.
Alex Riley seemed to be eliminated in error. Cena and Kofi looked at each other. It look like he slipped. Once he was gone, Charles Robinson and one other ref conferred. So one ran to the back. He came back three minutes later right to Miz, who removed his headphones and was told by two refs what he was to do, almost as panic set in.
Fans loved the whole Punk- Daniel Bryan being able to fight alone and kick around each other thing. Adding in William Regal was great. There were several “ROH” chants for them.
Both Booker and Nash got nice chants after being thrown out. There was also a “Thank you Diesel” chant. Nash raised the fist to acknowledge the chant. Booker also slapped high fives to fans as he left.
Punk getting eliminated was a shock to most and Cena was even bigger. As it got down to final 5, the ref kept looking under the ring to tell Santino when to come out. A lot of fans not happy Hornswoggle was in the ring so long.
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That explains it. Normally, when someone gets thrown out by a guy who isn't even in the Rumble or who already got eliminated, the refs don't count it. (i.e. Vader throwing out Shawn Michaels and everyone else, except Owen Hart, in 1996, enraged after Michaels tipped both him and Yokozuna over the top rope).
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They are grasping at straws right now. As it stands, WWE is at a point were they are rolling the dice and praying for 7's.
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I always love the Rumble. Always thought it was a great angle thatt the winner goes on the Headline Wrestlemania. Now here's the question? Why did Del Rio win? Why him of all people? Hows this gonna promote Wrestlemania?
(http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/albertodelrio/photos/photos10/SD_574_Photo_074.jpg)
He's one of the most "over" heels in WWE. Why not give him the shot, especially on Smackdown with Edge being a face? I actually picked either Del Rio or Wade Barrett. But, Barrett is still establishing himself on Smackdown with this Corre thing. If he were still on RAW and leading Nexus, I think he definitely should have had the win at the Rumble.
But, nonetheless, I like the move. After all, it was his destiny and now it has come to pass. The winner of the 2011 Royal Rumble.......
ALLLLLLLLLLBERTOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO DEL RIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
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If it wasn't for the returns of Booker and Diesel, the Rumble would have been poor for me. I can't stand it when they allow teams to take over the ring, like Punk and Nexus did last night, just throwing out anyone that comes down (They did the same last year with the Straight Edge Society). And then having Cena and Hornswoggle doing it? It made me chuckle, but it's not the way I'd prefer the match to go, and it went on too far.
They also never got to that traditional 'chaotic' point where there's 15-20 guys all in the ring, people getting flung out all over and the commentators struggling to keep up.
It was good to see Booker, although I was never much of a fan in his last run as King Booker. Diesel could be an interesting addition to the roster, but only on a limited basis. I don't see why they don't hire more part-timers, just to offer them some variety for storylines. Right now, they could have people like Batista, Jericho, RVD on part-time contracts. Put Taker, HHH and now Diesel on the same thing going forward, and you've always got someone who can give a guaranteed crowd reaction, while building the younger talents.
Timmy had Barrett or Punk winning it. Who's Taker defending the streak against this year?
I had Barrett as well, but I'd guess he's being kept for the rumoured match with Taker at WM.
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Alberto Del Rio is defiantely getting a serious push. He has his chance now and its make or break. He'll either go on at WM and put on a phenomenal show and get sick crowd reactions or he'll disappear into the mid-low card status and float off into oblivion. He is a good wrestler with a great persona. Lets see what happens....
Anyone watch Raw last night? There was a teaser...
02 11 11 (or something like that)
Save us? Looks like Jericho possibly returning?
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Taken off the net....
The video displayed a mysterious figure in a long black trench coat walking in a dark, rainy setting. The video concluded with “2 21 11″ being flashed in fiery text. Many fans speculated that it’s Sting but that is NOT confirmed by any means. They are really promoting this big though. For what it’s worth, we still don’t know the status of Sting but it’s been widely speculated that he’s returning to TNA Wrestling. We’ll have more on this tomorrow for sure. You can click here to view a photo of the “2 21 11″ graphic that aired this week on RAW.
Leads me to believe its the Undertaker...
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Timmy had Barrett or Punk winning it. More so Punk. I definitely thought it was gonna be one of those two though. Del Rio was a suprise to me because I figured he and Rey were a lock match at Mania. We'll see what happens? Who's Taker defending the streak against this year?
Del Rio and Mysterio have pretty much burned out their feud, with Del Rio getting the better of it.
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In all it definitely wasn't one of the best I've ever seen. PPV's come and go. The Rumble is one of the historic ones. VKM must really see some kinda bright future with this Del Rio. No hate. I really wouldn't have given him the win. Even Barrett would have been a pre-mature RR winner. Should have been Punk. The importance of this match and all it's winners. How does Albert Del Rio fit into it? All the best to him. Punk is one of the Federations best guys. He should have been the 11 Royal Rumble winner and gone on to headline on the Big Stage.
I wouldn't have picked Punk. The Rumble (and the WrestleMania title shot) has more meaning when a guy who's never had a World title (in WWE) get the win.
Del Rio fits the bill, as would Barrett had he won it. A fifth world title for Punk would have been anti-climatic. Plus, it's time for a Rumble winner to deliver the goods. Undertaker was the last one to win gold at the Big Dance. The last three (Cena, Orton, Edge) have all flopped.
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Taken off the net....
The video displayed a mysterious figure in a long black trench coat walking in a dark, rainy setting. The video concluded with “2 21 11″ being flashed in fiery text. Many fans speculated that it’s Sting but that is NOT confirmed by any means. They are really promoting this big though. For what it’s worth, we still don’t know the status of Sting but it’s been widely speculated that he’s returning to TNA Wrestling. We’ll have more on this tomorrow for sure. You can click here to view a photo of the “2 21 11″ graphic that aired this week on RAW.
Leads me to believe its the Undertaker...
Taker makes the most sense, but it's also the most predictable.
It'd be more interesting, IMO, if they had the mystery man come down to the ring - completely cloaked - and it turned out to be someone like Y2J.
Then, have Taker appear shortly thereafter and start a feud with the imposter.
And, there's your big Undertaker Mania match, folks!
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Taker makes the most sense, but it's also the most predictable.
It'd be more interesting, IMO, if they had the mystery man come down to the ring - completely cloaked - and it turned out to be someone like Y2J.
Then, have Taker appear shortly thereafter and start a feud with the imposter.
And, there's your big Undertaker Mania match, folks!
Been there; done that!!
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The way that it is today is title reigns mean nothing. Timmy knew Punk was champ before but couldn't remember it being four times? Doesn't matter if it's ten times. Punk pretty much is the total package and can have a believable fued with anyone. Albert Del Rio fit well with Rey with the whole Mexican angle. How much longer until we see people start smashing up Del Rios car and beating up his announcer? I think he's good but seriously one dimentional. Gonna be interesting where this goes?
CM Punk: World Heavyweight Champion (3); ECW World Champion (1).
I still count the ECW title reigns, even though ECW has been put on ice.....for now.
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Taker makes the most sense, but it's also the most predictable.
It'd be more interesting, IMO, if they had the mystery man come down to the ring - completely cloaked - and it turned out to be someone like Y2J.
Then, have Taker appear shortly thereafter and start a feud with the imposter.
And, there's your big Undertaker Mania match, folks!
Been there; done that!!
^^ That's not Jericho!
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Underfaker was played by one of the Harris brothers.
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^^ That's not Jericho!
You said an imposter, mimicking the Undertaker. We've had that back in 1994.
Underfaker was played by one of the Harris brothers.
I thought the imitation Undertaker was Brian Lee (who'd later become Chainz from DOA).
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You said an imposter, mimicking the Undertaker. We've had that back in 1994.
Again...I wrote: AN IMPOSTER WHO TURNS OUT TO BE JERICHO.
I did not write: A COUNTERFEIT UNDERTAKER WRESTLING THE ENTIRE PROGRAM AS THE/AN UNDERTAKER as in the clip you posted.
The two examples are entirely different contexts.
The Mania match I propose would consist of Taker vs. Jericho, who is one of the few remaining top talents who has not worked with Taker at Mania, and - IMO - is worthy of a "Taker's Last WM Match."
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Again...I wrote: AN IMPOSTER WHO TURNS OUT TO BE JERICHO.
I did not write: A COUNTERFEIT UNDERTAKER WRESTLING THE ENTIRE PROGRAM AS THE/AN UNDERTAKER as in the clip you posted.
The two examples are entirely different contexts.
The Mania match I propose would consist of Taker vs. Jericho, who is one of the few remaining top talents who has not worked with Taker at Mania, and - IMO - is worthy of a "Taker's Last WM Match."
Lol...wow....anyhow....
I could see a good Jericho vs Taker match. I think it would be a good program starting at the Elimination Chamber PPV if he chooses to come back. Is the Undertaker even ready to compete at WM in a one on one solo high profile match is the bigger question.
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Underfaker was played by one of the Harris brothers.
You're close.
Try Harris "cousin."
Lee is supposedly a real life cousin of the HB's.
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You're close.
Try Harris "cousin."
Lee is supposedly a real life cousin of the HB's.
I knew it was something along those lines. Brian Lee and Undertaker are real life buddies.
On a side note....Sting has not yet signed with TNA. Now all sources indicate that he will. You don't think that he was the Shadow figure in the 02 21 11 titontron promo do you? Can you imagine Sting finishing his career in the WWE with a big WM match? In the end, money talks. Who knows....
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I knew it was something along those lines. Brian Lee and Undertaker are real life buddies.
On a side note....Sting has not yet signed with TNA. Now all sources indicate that he will. You don't think that he was the Shadow figure in the 02 21 11 titontron promo do you? Can you imagine Sting finishing his career in the WWE with a big WM match? In the end, money talks. Who knows....
Oh, I don't care what Borden's said in the past.
If the money's right, anything's possible.
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Oh, I don't care what Borden's said in the past.
If the money's right, anything's possible.
Absolutely. I can also see an Undertaker vs Sting match...now that would be something. Almost a dream match of sorts. It will be very interesting seeing what happens later on this month at the Elimination Chamber PPV.
Another stupid move by Vince. He goes and puts the Elimination PPV which is the most gruelling and hardest on the body with major risks of injuring his stars one month before WM which is the biggest show of them all. Make sense? About as much as a "Dusty Finish". :)
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Again...I wrote: AN IMPOSTER WHO TURNS OUT TO BE JERICHO.
I did not write: A COUNTERFEIT UNDERTAKER WRESTLING THE ENTIRE PROGRAM AS THE/AN UNDERTAKER as in the clip you posted.
The two examples are entirely different contexts.
The Mania match I propose would consist of Taker vs. Jericho, who is one of the few remaining top talents who has not worked with Taker at Mania, and - IMO - is worthy of a "Taker's Last WM Match."
But, how is 'Taker going to return? As this is the fourth time he's been "buried alive", the temptation is going to have him fight Kane first (not at WrestleMania; a third 'Taker-Kane match would be preposterous). If Jericho were to interfere in such a match, that might work to set it up.
But, at this point, the only way you can sell an Undertaker match is with someone with a legitimate shot to end the streak. I don't know if you can do that with Chris Jericho, especially after such a hiatus.
And, is he coming back to Smackdown, where he's been for nearly 9 years, or do you move him to Raw?
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But, how is 'Taker going to return? As this is the fourth time he's been "buried alive", the temptation is going to have him fight Kane first (not at WrestleMania; a third 'Taker-Kane match would be preposterous). If Jericho were to interfere in such a match, that might work to set it up.
But, at this point, the only way you can sell an Undertaker match is with someone with a legitimate shot to end the streak. I don't know if you can do that with Chris Jericho, especially after such a hiatus.
And, is he coming back to Smackdown, where he's been for nearly 9 years, or do you move him to Raw?
I know what you mean.
Virtually everything has been done with him.
How do you come up with something different and interestting?
Maybe Vince should hire some of The Simpson’s writers.
As for Jericho, it’s no secret I’m a Y2J mark.
I consider CJ one of those guys who can have a good to great match with just about anyone.
Does that make him an appropriate opponent for Taker?
I don’t know.
In comparison to what they currently have to work with, Jericho may be the best option by default.
My belief: This is #20...and likely the last hurrah.
The occasion is certainly deserving of a very special opponent for Callaway, and IMO, that fact points to the Fed bringing in someone from outside of their current regular roster.
Be it Sting…
Be it Nash…
Be it Y2J…
Maybe even Goldberg for a “streak vs. streak” match.
Imagine that buildup:
Goldberg comes out and shoots a promo with something along the lines of:
“Yeah, you won 19 WrestleMania matches in a row. That’s one match per year. You call that a streak? I won 114 (or whatever it was) g-d-m matches in a ROW! THAT’S A STREAK! You‘re a fraud!”
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Well, there has been talk of him being in a 3 way or even a 4 way match to take the stress off his body and thus keep the streak alive because if his injuries. There is talk thathis body just physically cannot do it this year. So lets not all get our hopes up. He's had a hip replacement, a torn biceps, 2nd degree burned on the EC PPV last year febuary and now a bad shoulder injury. This all in the last two years.
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BRACE YOURSELVES....
TNA sources have indicated that Sting did not sign a new contract for 2011, and many in the company have discussed that he may be heading to WWE.
This morning, the New York Daily news reported that Sting had signed a one-year deal with WWE. That is NOT confirmed though.
Story developing…. more shortly.
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BRACE YOURSELVES....
TNA sources have indicated that Sting did not sign a new contract for 2011, and many in the company have discussed that he may be heading to WWE.
This morning, the New York Daily news reported that Sting had signed a one-year deal with WWE. That is NOT confirmed though.
Story developing…. more shortly.
Wow.....money talks and bs walks, as they say......still surprised.
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I know what you mean.
Virtually everything has been done with him.
How do you come up with something different and interestting?
Maybe Vince should hire some of The Simpson’s writers.
As for Jericho, it’s no secret I’m a Y2J mark.
I consider CJ one of those guys who can have a good to great match with just about anyone.
Does that make him an appropriate opponent for Taker?
I don’t know.
In comparison to what they currently have to work with, Jericho may be the best option by default.
My belief: This is #20...and likely the last hurrah.
The occasion is certainly deserving of a very special opponent for Callaway, and IMO, that fact points to the Fed bringing in someone from outside of their current regular roster.
Be it Sting…
Be it Nash…
Be it Y2J…
Maybe even Goldberg for a “streak vs. streak” match.
Imagine that buildup:
Goldberg comes out and shoots a promo with something along the lines of:
“Yeah, you won 19 WrestleMania matches in a row. That’s one match per year. You call that a streak? I won 114 (or whatever it was) g-d-m matches in a ROW! THAT’S A STREAK! You‘re a fraud!”
Most of Goldberg's streak was against jobbers and mid-carders. The Deadman's WrestleMania streak is mainly against big-time names in the business.
Sting? that would be interesting. But, we don't know if he'll ever be in WWE.
Nash? Been there; done that at WrestleMania 12. I don't want to see 'Taker fight another opponent he's already beaten at WrestleMania (Kane twice and Michaels twice is enough).
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Most of Goldberg's streak was against jobbers and mid-carders. The Deadman's WrestleMania streak is mainly against big-time names in the business.
Yeah, it's just a thought.
Goldberg is no worse than past Mania opponents like Bundy or Bossman.
(I think it's pretty evident the years they really hadn't much for Taker to do.)
This should not be one of those years.
Like Playboy mentioned above, a lot will depend on Taker's physcial condition.
I hope the recent time off has helped him a good bit.
And, I hope he's been doing about 12 IU's of good hGH per day - try to further fascilitate healing up some of those injuries.
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"the streak" for Taker is a double-edged sword at this point....it's all fine and well that he hasn't lost, but is there any wrestler, anywhere right now that anybody would think would actually pin him at WM? For me, it's impossible to get sucked into believing that it might be the year he loses, so no matter who they find, you KNOW the end result.
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I don't like to brag ;D but:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=346298.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=346298.0)
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I don't like to brag ;D but:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=346298.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=346298.0)
Shit, you called that one.
You should go buy a lottery ticket!
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Thanks. That said I don't know if Del Rio is the one who will reverse the WWE's downward spiral. Not sure if you follow financial stuff, but, the WWE's latest earnings report was less than stellar, and, as a result, the stock price took a hit.
The current WWE product does fairly well as a television soap opera, but, it's not getting people to live shows, or to spend money on ppvs.
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Thanks. That said I don't know if Del Rio is the one who will reverse the WWE's downward spiral. Not sure if you follow financial stuff, but, the WWE's latest earnings report was less than stellar, and, as a result, the stock price took a hit.
The current WWE product does fairly well as a television soap opera, but, it's not getting people to live shows, or to spend money on ppvs.
I was unaware of the most recent earnings, but the figures don’t surprise me.
Also, that’s a very astute observation to sum up the show: good on TV, but dwindling gates - in some ways reminiscent of the early 90’s.
I wouldn’t (nor, do I think it‘s fair to) expect Del Rio to turn things around,
With the state they're in, it will take much more than one character to single-handedly fix everything.
I think that something along the lines of an overhaul of the entire product is more in order for that.
I honestly thought that once Linda’s senate campaign was over, that they’d drastically shift gears.
I don’t think I’ve ever been more off in a prediction.
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I just assumed when I saw that trailer, that it was 'Taker? It never occurred to me that it could be someone else! Sting could be interesting, but are they both in good enough condition to have an impressive WM match? I know Taker always brings his A-game to the big one, but he's looked very rusty in his appearances in the past 6 months or so.
Who could actually have a chance of taking the streak? No one brought in from outside the company, that would be daft. HHH maybe? I know they've gone there already, but he's one of the few who might make the story believable? Or Austin, but that ain't happening! ;D
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Wow.....money talks and bs walks, as they say......still surprised.
Here's more...
According to sources within World Wrestling Entertainment, organization officials’ top priority heading into 2011 was signing multi-time champion Steve Borden (a/k/a Sting) to a contract.
Borden has not agreed to a new deal contract with TNA Wrestling. Internally, the majority feeling within the Nashville based organization is that he is bound for World Wrestling Entertainment.
As noted earlier, the New York Daily news reported today that Sting had signed a one-year deal with WWE. That is NOT confirmed though.
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You guys seem like you have your heads on for wrestling but cmon now Sting vs UT at WM?
Logic here folks.....UT is not losing any WM matches and Sting is not going to sign a contract to lose in his first match to UT....aint happening.
Rumors keep popping up that Barrett will face UT which I really hope doesn't happen. We all know there will be a squash match. At least last year's WM some of us at least thought for a minute that perhaps Michaels would win.
As for alot of the other things, DelRio, Punk etc....lets face it.....WWE "A" talent is weak....Cena, Orton on Raw and Edge, kane and Mysterio on Smackdown....
Lets go back 10 yrs ago......
Austin, Rock, Angle, Jericho, HHH, and a few others.....one guy goes down no biggie...
Fast forward now, they're scramblinbg....
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You guys seem like you have your heads on for wrestling but cmon now Sting vs UT at WM?
Logic here folks.....UT is not losing any WM matches and Sting is not going to sign a contract to lose in his first match to UT....aint happening.
Rumors keep popping up that Barrett will face UT which I really hope doesn't happen. We all know there will be a squash match. At least last year's WM some of us at least thought for a minute that perhaps Michaels would win.
As for alot of the other things, DelRio, Punk etc....lets face it.....WWE "A" talent is weak....Cena, Orton on Raw and Edge, kane and Mysterio on Smackdown....
Lets go back 10 yrs ago......
Austin, Rock, Angle, Jericho, HHH, and a few others.....one guy goes down no biggie...
Fast forward now, they're scramblinbg....
No one said this would happen but it doesn't eliminate the possiblilty. Who else is the UT supposed to wrestle??? Lets face it, there is really no one left. Cena maybe? But in the end, ita ll about ratings and selling tickets. Sting would sign if the money was right.
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The two best parts of the RR was when Punk hit R Truth in the corner with the knee and then yelled "Whatsss uppp?" to the crowd. God, I hate that bullshit from R Truth.
Second one was unlike past RRs it didn't consist of the new man running down to the ring then all the others in the ring just hanging back while the new guy hit "his spots" on all of them. The Undertaker was the worst at this. Next would Randy Orton having to RKO everyone in the ring that year.
Alberto Del Rio is going to work out to be a great heel. He has the perfect mix up of Eddie Guerro + Rick The Model Martels' gimmicks.
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The two best parts of the RR was when Punk hit R Truth in the corner with the knee and then yelled "Whatsss uppp?" to the crowd. God, I hate that bullshit from R Truth.
Second one was unlike past RRs it didn't consist of the new man running down to the ring then all the others in the ring just hanging back while the new guy hit "his spots" on all of them. The Undertaker was the worst at this. Next would Randy Orton having to RKO everyone in the ring that year.
Alberto Del Rio is going to work out to be a great heel. He has the perfect mix up of Eddie Guerro + Rick The Model Martels' gimmicks.
You and me both. I find him annoying. I can't even understand him when he's supposedly rapping. I liked him much better in TNA as "The Truth" / The whole Truth & nothing but the Truth gimmick.
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The two best parts of the RR was when Punk hit R Truth in the corner with the knee and then yelled "Whatsss uppp?" to the crowd. God, I hate that bullshit from R Truth.
Second one was unlike past RRs it didn't consist of the new man running down to the ring then all the others in the ring just hanging back while the new guy hit "his spots" on all of them. The Undertaker was the worst at this. Next would Randy Orton having to RKO everyone in the ring that year.
Alberto Del Rio is going to work out to be a great heel. He has the perfect mix up of Eddie Guerro + Rick The Model Martels' gimmicks.
I was thinking more Eddie Guerrero and JBL. He's more of a hybrid of the two.
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You and me both. I find him annoying. I can't even understand him when he's supposedly rapping. I liked him much better in TNA as "The Truth" / The whole Truth & nothing but the Truth gimmick.
Then, you must have been in stitches when the crowd booed him on RAW, for screaming "GREEN BAY, WISCONSIN!!!!! WHAT'S UP!!!", when RAW was in Milwaukee.
They were cool with him, until that part. Then, they were cheering for the new (and GIGANTIC) Nexus guy that beat him up.
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Thanks. That said I don't know if Del Rio is the one who will reverse the WWE's downward spiral. Not sure if you follow financial stuff, but, the WWE's latest earnings report was less than stellar, and, as a result, the stock price took a hit.
The current WWE product does fairly well as a television soap opera, but, it's not getting people to live shows, or to spend money on ppvs.
To me, WWE is wearing itself too thin. TOO MANY Pay-Per-Views, for starters.
Back in the day, you have the "Big 4". SummerSlam, Survivor Series, The Royal Rumble, and (of course) WrestleMania.
Ever since they started that "In Your House" Series in '95, WWE has gone PPV nuts. But, at least the IYH ones were only $20 (then again, they were only 2 hours long, instead of 3 hours).
Who's going to blow $50, 13 times a year to watch a PPV, especially if you can catch the foreign broadcast on the Internet for free?
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Michael Cole has been training in FCW in recent weeks. He’s been learning how to take bumps.
This has led to speculation that we’ll see a Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler match at WrestleMania. The setup would be for Cole to once again cost Lawler the title at the Elimination Chamber pay-per-view.
Jerry Lawler vs. Alex Riley with Michael Cole as the special guest referee has also been talked about along with several other ideas.
Nothing is confirmed as of this writing. More as we get it.
Now you know the WWE is extremely depserate for stars because they have to put Michael Cole in the ring. Wow....brtual.
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Michael Cole has been training in FCW in recent weeks. He’s been learning how to take bumps.
This has led to speculation that we’ll see a Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler match at WrestleMania. The setup would be for Cole to once again cost Lawler the title at the Elimination Chamber pay-per-view.
Jerry Lawler vs. Alex Riley with Michael Cole as the special guest referee has also been talked about along with several other ideas.
Nothing is confirmed as of this writing. More as we get it.
Now you know the WWE is extremely depserate for stars because they have to put Michael Cole in the ring. Wow....brtual.
I'm lost as I don't watch very much WWE, if at all. Lawler is in some sort of "title" angle? and now Cole is involved? Wow....sunken do depths never before achieved.....
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Michael Cole has been training in FCW in recent weeks. He’s been learning how to take bumps.
Hmm...
What kind of gate do you think Cole vs. Taker would draw?
I'm sure that Vince has thought about it...
LOL...
Not really.
:D
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Hmm...
What kind of gate do you think Cole vs. Taker would draw?
I'm sure that Vince has thought about it...
LOL...
Not really.
:D
ha ha ha....desperate times call for desperate decisions....and Vince is desperate. Edgeis retiring soon. Jericho is gone. Undertaker is a half cripple and needs 8 months off after every WM the last 3 years. HHH is up there in age and has taken more of a backstage roll. As some kids sign on raw said yesterday..."We've Cena Nuff". ;)
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ha ha ha....desperate times call for desperate decisions....and Vince is desperate. Edgeis retiring soon. Jericho is gone. Undertaker is a half cripple and needs 8 months off after every WM the last 3 years. HHH is up there in age and has taken more of a backstage roll. As some kids sign on raw said yesterday..."We've Cena Nuff". ;)
If they're not careful, Cena could begin drawing "X-Pac heat."
I was also going to comment on WM being held in Miami, but you must've edited your post right as I hit the quote button & the server gave me a pissy error message...lol.
If they're holding the event in Miami, it may be to "butter-up" the region to greenlight the building the WWE HOF there.
I believe that Orlando and/or surrounding areas were being considered for that.
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If they're not careful, Cena could begin drawing "X-Pac heat."
I was also going to comment on WM being held in Miami, but you must've edited your post right as I hit the quote button & the server gave me a pissy error message...lol.
If they're holding the event in Miami, it may be to "butter-up" the region to greenlight the building the WWE HOF there.
I believe that Orlando and/or surrounding areas were being considered for that.
Yup....We were supposed to get WM28 next year in Toronto but Miami got it on a count of the fact that we had WM6 & 18 here already. I'd have been the first one in line for tickets...thats for sure.
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Yup....We were supposed to get WM28 next year in Toronto but Miami got it on a count of the fact that we had WM6 & 18 here already. I'd have been the first one in line for tickets...thats for sure.
You won't feel so bad when the main event turns out to be Miz vs. Michael Cole with Hornswaggle in a midget-on-a-pole match.
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You won't feel so bad when the main event turns out to be Miz vs. Michael Cole with Hornswaggle in a midget-on-a-pole match.
I honestly heard that Cole will either fight Lawler or be a special ref with Lawler fighting Alex Riley at WM. How freakin hurting is that?
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Solie never had to bump.
End of discussion.
;D
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Solie never had to bump.
End of discussion.
;D
Yes, Solie was the best damn announcer.
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Besides possible guest suprises like HHH and Sting? Timmy tries to stay positive. But this years Mania doesn't look promising.
The problem is that they aren't building the Edge/Del Rio feud for WrestleMania. Edge is still stuck with Dolph Ziggler. Building the feud is tough enough to do in just two months. The best title matches, involving the Royal Rumble winner, usually are when the winner faces a champion with whom a beef has been building or already existed for MONTHS (Angle-Lesnar, Edge-Undertaker, Rock-Austin [WM17]).
This is why I don't necessarily like this whole Rumble-winner-gets-title-shot-at-WrestleMania deal. The main event match should be the match that is the most anticipated and likely to deliver the best performance.
Orton won the Rumble in 2009. Yet, his title match with Helmsley was mediocre at best. The main event should have been 'Taker vs. Michaels).
Last year, Edge won the Rumble. Was his match with Jericho the "main event"? NO!! It was 'Taker vs. Michaels (Streak vs. Career); they actually got it right.
In fact, 'Taker and Michaels did that back in 1997. Their first match was made the main event at "In Your House: Ground Zero", because tickets sales flopped, when the main event was a title match, between Bret Hart and the Patriot.
And, of course, at "In Your House: Badd Blood", the Hell-In-A-Cell match was top draw; there was no WWF title match.
My point: You don't need a World title match to be the main event of WrestleMania. The first WrestleMania and the last one have proven that.
This is especially true because, if the WWE/World Champion is a heel, he's dropping the belt 80% of the time (in other words, Miz is toast!!!).
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I wouldn't pay 5 bucks to see Edge vs Del Rio in a main event. The bottom line is the WWE is hurting for superstars and these clowns they have now simply cannot cut it. These guys now have ZERO charisma and ZERO superstar quality. They need another group of Austin or Rock or HHH type of characters asap. Not these dumbass FCW clowns they scout out at Golds Gym.
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I wouldn't pay 5 bucks to see Edge vs Del Rio in a main event. The bottom line is the WWE is hurting for superstars and these clowns they have now simply cannot cut it. These guys now have ZERO charisma and ZERO superstar quality. They need another group of Austin or Rock or HHH type of characters asap. Not these dumbass FCW clowns they scout out at Golds Gym.
What you keep forgetting is that people once said THE EXACT SAME THING about Austin, Rock, and Helmsley. Did anyone in the mid-90s really think that that "The RingMaster", "Rocky Maivia", and the uber-snobbish Hunter Hearst Helmsley (curtsies and all) would revive the WWF and prove that there was life (and sports entertainment) after Hogan, Warrior, and Savage?
Did any of you see those three guys, eventually amassing nearly 30 World titles among themselves?
It took time to develop those guys, although some were thrust into the spotlight, such as Rock. I remember all the howls about how he didn't deserve to be Intercontinental Champion. That's how the "Rocky Sucks" and "Die, Rocky, Die!!" stuff began. And he beat Helmsley, who won the title mere months after being squashed by the Ultimate Warrior at WrestleMania 12.
As for Austin, he won King of the Ring, despite his earlier struggling and literally getting whipped by Savio Vega, especially with his last defeat to him costing him his manager (Ted DiBiase).
It took time to turn the RingMaster into the Rattlesnake, to turn a happy-go-lucky-Samoan into "the People's Champion", to turn a snobby aristocrat into "The King of Kings, the GAME!!".
Let the new guys do their thing. They'll get it togehter in due season.
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Michael Cole has been training in FCW in recent weeks. He’s been learning how to take bumps.
This has led to speculation that we’ll see a Michael Cole vs. Jerry Lawler match at WrestleMania. The setup would be for Cole to once again cost Lawler the title at the Elimination Chamber pay-per-view.
Jerry Lawler vs. Alex Riley with Michael Cole as the special guest referee has also been talked about along with several other ideas.
Nothing is confirmed as of this writing. More as we get it.
Now you know the WWE is extremely depserate for stars because they have to put Michael Cole in the ring. Wow....brtual.
He's already been in the ring. He and King were in a match where they got beat up by Nexus last year.
I think (or at least I HOPE) they'll pull a Kane here. They'll let King beat The Miz for the title at Elimination Chamber. The next night on RAW, either the GM will order or the Miz will goad Lawler into a re-match with Miz. In THAT match, Cole will help Miz get the title back, setting up a King v. Cole showdown at WrestleMania (and of course, Cena vs. Miz for the gold).
Think about it!! Look at how being WWE champion for a day hung around Kane's neck, throughout his career. I honestly don't know what's worse: Never winning the title or having it for just one day?
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All the WWF did with Austin, Rock and HHH was just let them be themselves. The crap gimmicks they handcuffed them to begin with didn't hold, but all 3 had so much charisma (course HHH got a HUGE rub hanging with HBK) and unless the WWE "creative" do the same thing with the new crop they will never know if they have anything or not. I can't even tell what at least half the rosters "gimmick" is supposed to be anyway. They look the same, wrestle the same, interview the same, etc.... very little variation....
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What you keep forgetting is that people once said THE EXACT SAME THING about Austin, Rock, and Helmsley. Did anyone in the mid-90s really think that that "The RingMaster", "Rocky Maivia", and the uber-snobbish Hunter Hearst Helmsley (curtsies and all) would revive the WWF and prove that there was life (and sports entertainment) after Hogan, Warrior, and Savage?
Did any of you see those three guys, eventually amassing nearly 30 World titles among themselves?
It took time to develop those guys, although some were thrust into the spotlight, such as Rock. I remember all the howls about how he didn't deserve to be Intercontinental Champion. That's how the "Rocky Sucks" and "Die, Rocky, Die!!" stuff began. And he beat Helmsley, who won the title mere months after being squashed by the Ultimate Warrior at WrestleMania 12.
As for Austin, he won King of the Ring, despite his earlier struggling and literally getting whipped by Savio Vega, especially with his last defeat to him costing him his manager (Ted DiBiase).
It took time to turn the RingMaster into the Rattlesnake, to turn a happy-go-lucky-Samoan into "the People's Champion", to turn a snobby aristocrat into "The King of Kings, the GAME!!".
Let the new guys do their thing. They'll get it togehter in due season.
Yes, i'm well aware of that. I don't need the history lesson. But either way, Austin & Rock were only quiet in their first year (1996) in the WWE. Then they both exploded after that. Miz, Morrison, Truth and the rest have been around for years already and have gone no where fast. They were given titles in the hopes that it would raise their bar but it hasn't. I'll watch old tapes of HHH vs The Rock or Austin vs Mankind anyday over the garbage poured on tv now from WWE.
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All the WWF did with Austin, Rock and HHH was just let them be themselves. The crap gimmicks they handcuffed them to begin with didn't hold, but all 3 had so much charisma (course HHH got a HUGE rub hanging with HBK) and unless the WWE "creative" do the same thing with the new crop they will never know if they have anything or not. I can't even tell what at least half the rosters "gimmick" is supposed to be anyway. They look the same, wrestle the same, interview the same, etc.... very little variation....
Again, those same word were once said of Rock, Austin, and Helmsley, even after they blew up. Plus, the way I see, WWE (Smackdown, in particular) is in DIRE NEED of main-event-level HEELS.
That's why Del Rio, winning the Rumble, is HUGE. The fans can't stand him. As stated earlier, he has bits of Eddie Guerrro's latino heat but carries the "jerk" factor of JBL. Add his personal ring announcer and he's nearly as irritating as Mohammaed Hassan and Daivari were.
Yes, i'm well aware of that. I don't need the history lesson. But either way, Austin & Rock were only quiet in their first year (1996) in the WWE. Then they both exploded after that. Miz, Morrison, Truth and the rest have been around for years already and have gone no where fast. They were given titles in the hopes that it would raise their bar but it hasn't. I'll watch old tapes of HHH vs The Rock or Austin vs Mankind anyday over the garbage poured on tv now from WWE.
See my earlier reference to Del Rio. Plus, at least with Miz and Morrison, they've caught fire as of late. Morrison started to heat up, when they made him ECW champion (as a last-ditch replacement to Benoit). His feud with CM Punk got him rolling as a solo wrestler, laying "Johnny Nitro" to rest.
And, thanks to his feud with Sheamus, he's almost at main-event status. I said earlier that it's Cena vs. Miz at WrestleMania. But, after thinking it over, JoMO could win the Chamber. Put him and Miz (former friends and tag champs partners) together and it could get wild at WrestleMania. Their Falls-Count-Anywhere title match on RAW was terrific.
Plus, it fits my earlier statements about the best WrestleMania matches, having months to build some beef. In the case of Miz and Morrison, that has YEARS of history. The one thing stopping that is Cena's WrestleMania "streak" of title matches. Will WWE take him out of the title picture at the big dance?
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Again, those same word were once said of Rock, Austin, and Helmsley, even after they blew up. Plus, the way I see, WWE (Smackdown, in particular) is in DIRE NEED of main-event-level HEELS.
That's why Del Rio, winning the Rumble, is HUGE. The fans can't stand him. As stated earlier, he has bits of Eddie Guerrro's latino heat but carries the "jerk" factor of JBL. Add his personal ring announcer and he's nearly as irritating as Mohammaed Hassan and Daivari were.
Nah....I followed Austin in his Stunning Steve days with Pillman and he always had "it" WCW was just too dumb to use him. The VKM saddled him with a shit gimmick and as soon as he got the chance he ran with it.
Rock....he was thrown into a spot and it was the fans who really created all the heat that eventually was used to......again......let him be himself....funny, cocky, etc...
HHH.... I never saw much in him, but he proved to be a damn hard worker.....who also benefited from being in DX when it was hot.
Like I said, maybe some of this current crop has something...I don't see it, but maybe they do....only way to find out is if creative allows them to, which I don't see happening in the near future. All of these contrived gimmicks are shit.....like Arn said, keep your gimmick as close to who you are as possible.
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Nah....I followed Austin in his Stunning Steve days with Pillman and he always had "it" WCW was just too dumb to use him. The VKM saddled him with a shit gimmick and as soon as he got the chance he ran with it.
Rock....he was thrown into a spot and it was the fans who really created all the heat that eventually was used to......again......let him be himself....funny, cocky, etc...
HHH.... I never saw much in him, but he proved to be a damn hard worker.....who also benefited from being in DX when it was hot.
Like I said, maybe some of this current crop has something...I don't see it, but maybe they do....only way to find out is if creative allows them to, which I don't see happening in the near future. All of these contrived gimmicks are shit.....like Arn said, keep your gimmick as close to who you are as possible.
I probably won't watch enough to say for sure, but I think Del Rio could be the real deal.
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I probably won't watch enough to say for sure, but I think Del Rio could be the real deal.
The tiny bit I caught, I would agree.
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Nah....I followed Austin in his Stunning Steve days with Pillman and he always had "it" WCW was just too dumb to use him. The VKM saddled him with a shit gimmick and as soon as he got the chance he ran with it.
Rock....he was thrown into a spot and it was the fans who really created all the heat that eventually was used to......again......let him be himself....funny, cocky, etc...
HHH.... I never saw much in him, but he proved to be a damn hard worker.....who also benefited from being in DX when it was hot.
Like I said, maybe some of this current crop has something...I don't see it, but maybe they do....only way to find out is if creative allows them to, which I don't see happening in the near future. All of these contrived gimmicks are shit.....like Arn said, keep your gimmick as close to who you are as possible.
WCW was too dumb to use a lot of guys. But, to McMahon's credit, he got a lot of his characters right, most notably Diesel, Razor Ramon, and especially The Undertaker. Those gimmicks (especially for 'Taker) worked like magic.
When Austin started as the RingMaster, he was quite vocal, similar to his "Rattlesnake" persona. Then, he got silent when he became "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, with "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase, doing his talking for him. Austin clammed up and became almost cyborg-like.
In fact, he didn't really take off, until he lost that second Carribean Strap Match (and as a result, DiBiase had to leave the WWF).
With Vince, it's feast or famine as far as gimmicks are concerned.
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Nah....I followed Austin in his Stunning Steve days with Pillman and he always had "it" WCW was just too dumb to use him. The VKM saddled him with a shit gimmick and as soon as he got the chance he ran with it.
Rock....he was thrown into a spot and it was the fans who really created all the heat that eventually was used to......again......let him be himself....funny, cocky, etc...
HHH.... I never saw much in him, but he proved to be a damn hard worker.....who also benefited from being in DX when it was hot.
Like I said, maybe some of this current crop has something...I don't see it, but maybe they do....only way to find out is if creative allows them to, which I don't see happening in the near future. All of these contrived gimmicks are shit.....like Arn said, keep your gimmick as close to who you are as possible.
Bullseye. "You wanna talk about your bibles, John 3:16, Ausin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass!" That right there is what made Austin. The fued with Hart help it more and the rest is history.
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Bullseye. "You wanna talk about your bibles, John 3:16, Ausin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass!" That right there is what made Austin. The fued with Hart help it more and the rest is history.
That's what I was saying earlier. Austin's "RingMaster" gimmick didn't exactly spell superstar. But, initially he was more like the "Rattlesnake" then. See the RingMaster's debut on the Brother Love show that I posted earlier.
When the nickname was changed, Austin was not only "Stone Cold" but he was stone SILENT; DiBiase did all his talking for him. Austin broke out that old "Stone Cold" gimmick, once he lost that strap match which sent DiBiase packing.
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Back to the 2011 Royal Rumble (and the WrestleMania implications), Alberto Del Rio's win was a great one. Smackdown, again, is in DIRE need of main-event heels. Every time they get one, he gets jacked and sent to RAW.
Edge was the alpha heel for years. But, now he's a face. Jericho is still gone (they moved him to RAW, first by putting the tag titles on him, so he could be on both shows).
Since 'Taker won't be in the main event and there's no scintilating beef among the non-champions, one of the world title matches should be the main event
With the likelihood of a heel winning the main event being low, I'd say the WWE title match will be the feature bout. Miz will lose the title at 'Mania, likely to Cena but PERHAPS to Morrison.
That is, UNLESS they let Edge beat Del Rio. I'm sure Edge is tired of losing at Wrestlemania (he's dropped three straight title matches).
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Are they not doing a MITB match this year?
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Are they not doing a MITB match this year?
They usually start the qualifiers for that after Elimination Chamber/No Way Out.
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I was there..
Legit sellout...maybe 25 empty seats by the entrance
Booker, Diesel, and Cena got the biggest pops of the night. Booker was the loudest, but Nash got a bigger overall reaction
CM Punk was very over. Cool dueling Punk-Bryan chants to start the Rumble, Regal got a loud chant as well.
Biggest heat was probably Vicky, the boos were so loud you literally couldn't hear what she was saying
Edge-Ziggler was a good match. A few Ziggler chants, Edge was really over. Very fun match
Orton-Miz was boring. Orton didn't get much of a pop, Miz had good heat with some cheers mixed in.
Divas match was ok..the second the WWE title match ended, a lot of people went to the bathroom, concessions etc..When the match was made a fatal four way, about half the arena starting chanting "Kong"...then Eve came out and sucked the life out of the place. It was so quiet you could hear a church mouse fart.
Half the arena forgot about Santino until he came back in the ring. The Morrison spot was insane. Overall, I thought it was a fun show. It had something for everyone and a lot of memorable moments.
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I was there..
Legit sellout...maybe 25 empty seats by the entrance
Booker, Diesel, and Cena got the biggest pops of the night. Booker was the loudest, but Nash got a bigger overall reaction
CM Punk was very over. Cool dueling Punk-Bryan chants to start the Rumble, Regal got a loud chant as well.
Biggest heat was probably Vicky, the boos were so loud you literally couldn't hear what she was saying
Edge-Ziggler was a good match. A few Ziggler chants, Edge was really over. Very fun match
Orton-Miz was boring. Orton didn't get much of a pop, Miz had good heat with some cheers mixed in.
Divas match was ok..the second the WWE title match ended, a lot of people went to the bathroom, concessions etc..When the match was made a fatal four way, about half the arena starting chanting "Kong"...then Eve came out and sucked the life out of the place. It was so quiet you could hear a church mouse fart.
Half the arena forgot about Santino until he came back in the ring. The Morrison spot was insane. Overall, I thought it was a fun show. It had something for everyone and a lot of memorable moments.
Nice!
Anyone here going to Wrestlemania out of curiosity?
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I had this discussion with one of my friends I went with. Do you guys think that huge reaction he got was for Nash or the Diesel character? If he came out as regular Kevin Nash with NWO wolfpac music, would he gotten as big a reaction?
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I had this discussion with one of my friends I went with. Do you guys think that huge reaction he got was for Nash or the Diesel character? If he came out as regular Kevin Nash with NWO wolfpac music, would he gotten as big a reaction?
i think the reaction would have been at least, if not bigger for the nWo music. Most fans in attendance probably barely remember, if at all, the Diesel gimmick. they know Nash as an nWo member more than anything else.
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i think the reaction would have been at least, if not bigger for the nWo music. Most fans in attendance probably barely remember, if at all, the Diesel gimmick. they know Nash as an nWo member more than anything else.
I agree...he was saying that Diesel hadn't been in the WWE for almost 15 years so it was more of a novelty than just Nash. I was honestly suprised how old most of the crowd was.. I hadn't been to a live show in a while so I was expecting all kids. It was one of the biggest sustained reactions I've heard live, probably only Austin winning at WM, Hogan at Summerslam were bigger.
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I agree...he was saying that Diesel hadn't been in the WWE for almost 15 years so it was more of a novelty than just Nash. I was honestly suprised how old most of the crowd was.. I hadn't been to a live show in a while so I was expecting all kids. It was one of the biggest sustained reactions I've heard live, probably only Austin winning at WM, Hogan at Summerslam were bigger.
That could be good news with a little older crowd. They might adjust the product, more mature story lines, more time to develop things as older crowds have a bit more patience to let things build, etc...
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I had this discussion with one of my friends I went with. Do you guys think that huge reaction he got was for Nash or the Diesel character? If he came out as regular Kevin Nash with NWO wolfpac music, would he gotten as big a reaction?
I think so. Kevin Nash is Deisel so yes I think he would have. I would have LOVED to have scene him come out as NWO "Lone Wolf" Kevin Nash with the Wolfpac track. But we all know Jealous Vince wouldn't want that now would he. ;)