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Title: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 09:03:46 AM
Do you want it abolished or what? What's the solution?  I've watched the local post office cut their staff and put in automated machines which I didn't want but I guess it saves money.  The rates they are held to are way fucking cheaper than Fed-ex and UPS.  What do you guys want to happen the USPS?  What exactly are they doing wrong in your opinion?
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2011, 09:16:48 AM
Do you want it abolished or what? What's the solution?  I've watched the local post office cut their staff and put in automated machines which I didn't want but I guess it saves money.  The rates they are held to are way fucking cheaper than Fed-ex and UPS.  What do you guys want to happen the USPS?  What exactly are they doing wrong in your opinion?


They need to cut delivery days and use more of the kiosks. 
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 09:52:16 AM
They need to cut delivery days and use more of the kiosks. 
I hate using those machines.  I've always liked going up and doing shit with a real person.  Is that bad?
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
I hate using those machines.  I've always liked going up and doing shit with a real person.  Is that bad?

Where I am I prefer the kiosik because the lines are always flooded with people who dont speak english trying to do passports and other stupid shit.   

I saw one indian mofo a few weeks ago hand a laptop held together by duct tape to the clerk and say - "I want to ship". 

The clerk was like "WTF is that?" and probably thought it was a bomb.  lol.   Then you get some jackass with 10 certified mails who did not fill it out beforehand and holds up the line. 

We have a 24/7 kiosik and I can sent out my certifieds after hours without a problem or having to wait in line for 30 minutes behind the animals.   
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Straw Man on February 12, 2011, 10:04:26 AM
Do you want it abolished or what? What's the solution?  I've watched the local post office cut their staff and put in automated machines which I didn't want but I guess it saves money.  The rates they are held to are way fucking cheaper than Fed-ex and UPS.  What do you guys want to happen the USPS?  What exactly are they doing wrong in your opinion?


let them be allowed to make a profit and get rid of defined benefit pensions
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: tonymctones on February 12, 2011, 10:14:34 AM
let them be allowed to make a profit and get rid of defined benefit pensions
only if they are made to compete on level playing field and no longer associated with the US govt...
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Straw Man on February 12, 2011, 10:16:00 AM
only if they are made to compete on level playing field and no longer associated with the US govt...

Fed Ex, UPS, DHL, etc.. don't seem to have any problem with competing with the USPS

Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2011, 10:21:25 AM
Fed Ex, UPS, DHL, etc.. don't seem to have any problem with competing with the USPS



I would like to know if they did a daily delivery for 1st class mail what the cost would be.   
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: George Whorewell on February 12, 2011, 10:34:34 AM
Put Straw Man in charge of operating it until one of his postal employees goes crazy and shoots up Straws office with an illegally obtained AK47 that was sent through the mail.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Straw Man on February 12, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
I would like to know if they did a daily delivery for 1st class mail what the cost would be.   

good point

first class rates should be much higher too (and probably would be if the USPS wasn't mandated to be revenue neutral)

per the USPS annual report for 2009 here are the first class rates for the US as compared to a few other countries:

US:    44 cents
Canada:  47 cents
Great Britain:  64 cents
Germany:  77 cents
France:  78 cents
Japan: 83 cents
Norwary:  $ 1.25
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 10:45:51 AM
Fed Ex, UPS don't have a gov committee dictating what they can charge for what they do.  If costs go up for the USPS they can and often do get denied the ability to raise prices for service while other companies can and do adjust as and when they need.  USPS has been kept artifically low by gov committe mandate for a long time and at the same time people complain what an utter failure they are.  Jesus, you can't have them both, you want to send shit cheap but you want to complain what a failure the USPS is?  In a way they are stuck in a spot of damed if you do and damed if you don't.

I'd like to keep the postal service around personally.  I know Fed-ex and the rest would love to see them gone but I'm for keeping them around.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
thread fixed for the fucking crybaby, I didn't even quote your retarded ass.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: tonymctones on February 12, 2011, 11:20:07 AM
^^^^^
hahahhaha

I was going to complain about my post being deleted until that  ;D
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 11:24:43 AM
^^^^^
hahahhaha

I was going to complain about my post being deleted until that  ;D
oh yea, I killed all of that crybaby shit lol...  Nothing against you, it's just that there is no point to that reply after I killed all of the bullshit lol...
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: tonymctones on February 12, 2011, 11:27:15 AM
oh yea, I killed all of that crybaby shit lol...  Nothing against you, it's just that there is no point to that reply after I killed all of the bullshit lol...
no worries
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 12, 2011, 11:37:54 AM
I hate using those machines.  I've always liked going up and doing shit with a real person.  Is that bad?

Fuck yeah.  Like taking your mail to Burger King to get sent.  Slow ass condescending fuckers that had - probably at the most - 8 hours of job training.

I print postage from home and do all my shipping from here or the drop box.  If it is something big or heavy, you can arrange a pick up at your house or office.

Standing in line = Teh Suck.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 11:50:14 AM
Fuck yeah.  Like taking your mail to Burger King to get sent.  Slow ass condescending fuckers that had - probably at the most - 8 hours of job training.

I print postage from home and do all my shipping from here or the drop box.  If it is something big or heavy, you can arrange a pick up at your house or office.

Standing in line = Teh Suck.
I've watched people standing in line at the kiosks plenty of times.  I've also made it through the normal line before people using the automated bullshit.  And I have a good experience with the postal workers.  They have never been slow with me and always been very helpful.  

IF ANYTHING, WHEN LINES GET HELD UP, I'VE NOTICED WHAT HOLDS THEM UP is the dipshit people who come with their shit not ready to ship. I've watched that time and time again and you can't blame the postal workers for that.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 12, 2011, 11:59:32 AM
You haven't encountered Postal workers in South Florida then.  If you think most people in line can't speak English, it seems most postal workers can't understand it.

If you only make the occasional 1-2 trips per month to the post office, then that is nothing.  But if you go regularly, why not just prepare everything at home and have them pick it up or drop it at the drop box on the side of the road?  That is what I do.  Whenever I come back from shooting a cruise trip or land vacation, I do all the photos here and simple print postage to stick on them and arrange a pick up from the USPS.com site.  Last thing I want to do is haul in 2000 individual CD mail pieces to the post office counter.

You even save a bit more from doing it at home too.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: andreisdaman on February 12, 2011, 12:03:24 PM
They need to cut delivery days and use more of the kiosks. 
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if Obama said that, you would claim he was mismanaging the USPS and start a thread about how it was a conspiracy to put the USPS out of business in order to lay off employees and drive up the unemployment rate so as to sabotage the country
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2011, 12:08:50 PM
Ha ha ha.  Funny. 
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 12:20:44 PM
You haven't encountered Postal workers in South Florida then.  If you think most people in line can't speak English, it seems most postal workers can't understand it.

If you only make the occasional 1-2 trips per month to the post office, then that is nothing.  But if you go regularly, why not just prepare everything at home and have them pick it up or drop it at the drop box on the side of the road?  That is what I do.  Whenever I come back from shooting a cruise trip or land vacation, I do all the photos here and simple print postage to stick on them and arrange a pick up from the USPS.com site.  Last thing I want to do is haul in 2000 individual CD mail pieces to the post office counter.

You even save a bit more from doing it at home too.
Recently I've had a break and not been going as much, but I usually go several times a week.  I was going often enough that I tried out the print it out yourself method.  I timed how long it took me to be done with it all and it was longer than doing it by hand and dropping it off.  I did it several times and each time it took longer to print out the crap than it took to write out a lable and drop it off. 

Maybe it's personal but it worked better for me to just do it the old way and drop the stuff off.  Also maybe my experience is different because I'm usually sending off 18 or so larger boxes, about 14 X 20 inches.  I can kick out the lables by hand way faster than dicking around with USPS online stuff.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 12, 2011, 02:20:30 PM
I am talking about printing the postage out at home.  That is where the time and $$ saving is.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 12, 2011, 02:23:34 PM
The post office near me is awful.  The clerks all seem like recovering dopers, underachieving Asians, whites who are stuck in the early 80's, and packed with people who make you feel you are in the DMV or welfare office.   

Maybe its different elsewhere, but not in NYC.   I try to avoid the place like the plague. 
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 02:26:56 PM
I am talking about printing the postage out at home.  That is where the time and $$ saving is.
that's what I was talking about too.  I think it depends.  I found it not to be a saving but I'm sure there are others who have calculated different.  Maybe it just depends on what you're packing and where you're at.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 12, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
The post office near me is awful.  The clerks all seem like recovering dopers, underachieving Asians, whites who are stuck in the early 80's, and packed with people who make you feel you are in the DMV or welfare office.   

Maybe its different elsewhere, but not in NYC.   I try to avoid the place like the plague. 
yea, nothing like that in this area.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 12, 2011, 03:03:06 PM
that's what I was talking about too.  I think it depends.  I found it not to be a saving but I'm sure there are others who have calculated different.  Maybe it just depends on what you're packing and where you're at.

Yeah, look into their business shipping options.  That is what I did.  They offer a few different ways to do it. 

From my end I use the Dymo 450 twin turbo (or whatever it is called), all I have to do is highlight the addy on the screen, click print, the label comes out and it gives me the postage option box to print the postage right there at the same time.  I do everything and if it is a bunch of photo CDs from vacations going out to customers I arrange a pick up at the house with mailman the next day.  If it is single items, I click two or three boxes on the postage option panel and have it automatically set up for including a delivery confirmation # and insurance (if I am shipping something expensive like my lens or other equipment).  Then take it to the P.O. and drop it in the box.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: andreisdaman on February 13, 2011, 11:21:07 AM
The post office near me is awful.  The clerks all seem like recovering dopers, underachieving Asians, whites who are stuck in the early 80's, and packed with people who make you feel you are in the DMV or welfare office.   

Maybe its different elsewhere, but not in NYC.   I try to avoid the place like the plague. 



hmmmm..let me guess which race you assigned the term "recovering dopers" to. ::)
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: George Whorewell on February 13, 2011, 11:22:05 AM


hmmmm..let me guess which race you assigned the term "recovering dopers" to. ::)

NYC has a large number of non black recovering dopers. ::)
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: andreisdaman on February 13, 2011, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: George Whorewell link=topic=366252.msg5189209#msg5189209 date=1297624925
NYC has a large number of non black recovering dopers. ::)
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that is true...but not in 333's mind
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 13, 2011, 11:30:39 AM
Nah, the blacks I often encounter in the post office are usually just miserable mofos, not much different than the rest of the clerks. 

The dopers comment was not against blacks, but strung out wierdos who always seem to find a home there.
Title: Re: What do you guys want to happen with the US Postal Service?
Post by: andreisdaman on February 13, 2011, 11:41:45 AM
Nah, the blacks I often encounter in the post office are usually just miserable mofos, not much different than the rest of the clerks. 

The dopers comment was not against blacks, but strung out wierdos who always seem to find a home there.


you know all too well that misery loves company :)