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http://current.com/news/92999291_worth-repeating-approved-drugs-10-008-deaths-marijuana-0.htm
This shows that Marijuana is safe...I was under the impression that there was one fatality from marijuana use..However, i was wrong.
There has never been a single documented primary human fatality from overdosing on cannabis in its natural form in any amount.
When a new drug is being developed, phase two of studying it determines how safe the drug is, what would be a possible therapeutic dose vs. a fatal dose. Remember, the difference between a medicine and a poison is only the dose.
The LD 50 of a drug stands for how much of the substance being tested will kill 50 percent of a population of test subjects by overdose compared to their body mass (rats are used), and the amount of the drug that killed 50 percent is averaged according to animal body weight, and then that information is extrapolated for an average human's weight.
The amount is theoretical, because the test could never be ethically performed in real humans.
When THC is tested for its LD 50 in rats, researchers have a problem: They can't seem to kill the rats with THC, no matter how hard they try! THC is just too damn safe.
According to the Merck Index, 12th edition (the number one reference book for medical doctors), the LD 50 value for rats by inhalation of THC is 42 mg/kg of body weight. Comparing this to an average human being, one estimate of THC's LD 50 for humans indicates that about 1,500 pounds (680 kg) if cannabis would have to be smoked within 14 minutes. Warning: Don't try this at home! In the real world, the only way this could possibly happen would be something like you are trapped in a house made of cannabis, it's engulfed in flames and all the windows and doors are locked -- the mother of all bong rips!)
By contrast, with alcohol, chugging as little as 10 ounces of 100 proof on an empty stomach would likely put a 150-pound person into a coma, possibly leading to respiratory arrest.
Even aspirin can kill you. Moderate toxicity occurs at doses up to 300 mg/kg, severe toxicity occurs between 300 to 500 mg/kg, and a potentially lethal dose is greater than 500 mg/kg, i.e., the LD 50 for a 150-pound person would be approximately 100 to 125 325-mg tabs of aspirin.
Acetaminophen causes three times as many cases of liver failure as all other drugs combined, and is the most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States -- accounting for 39 percent of all cases. While it occurs through overdosing, even recommended doses, especially combined with even small amounts of alcohol, have caused irreversible liver failure. Four grams of Tylenol -- that is, just eight extra-strength tabs, taken all at once -- kills you by killing your liver.
Have you ever heard of any person committing suicide with a marijuana overdose? No, because it is impossible. If you smoke too much you just fall asleep; that's it.
THC has to be the safest drug known to mankind. Safer than water? Maybe. Ever heard of marathon runners over-hydrating before a race, and inducing a state of hyponaturemia in their bodies (very low sodium serum blood levels), which can induce a fatal cardiac arrythmia? Numbers are hard to find; it only happens to a handful of people a year, but it's serious enough that it's on runners' radar, and they are warned not to over-drink water before a big race.
Here are the 17 commonly prescribed drugs (in four groups) that were compared to marijuana in this study.
#1. Anti-emetics: Drugs to stop vomiting, common with chemotherapy in cancer patients. Examples are Compazine (15 deaths), Reglan (37), Marinol (4), Zofran (79), Anzemet (22), Kytril (36), and Tigan (3). In the 10 year look back, these seven FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 197 people with normal use.
#2. Anti-spasmodics: Drugs to treat muscle spasms, widely used for the treatment of spastic movement disorders, especially in instances of spinal cord injury, spastic diplegia, cerebral palsy, multiple sclerosis, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's disease), peripheral neuropathy and trigeminal. All are very serious medical conditions. Examples of drugs to treat these conditions are Baclofen (72 deaths) and Zanaflex (46 deaths). These two FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 118 people with normal use over 10 years. If there is one group that would benefit greatly from the peaceful effects of the herb, it's these humans who are in such need of joy.
#3. Anti-psychotics: Drugs used to treat psychosis. Haldol (450 deaths), Lithium (175), and Neurotin (968). These three FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 1,595 people with normal use over 10 years.
#4. Others: Drugs for depression, attention deficit disorder, pain, and erectile dysfunction. Ritalin (121), Wellbutrin (1,132), Adderall (54), Viagra (2,254), and Vioxx (4,540). These five FDA-approved drugs killed a total of 8,101 people with normal use over 10 years.
In total, 10,008 deaths due to company-tested drugs, with data reviewed by the FDA and approved for safe use in humans by M.D. prescription only -- vs. unregulated market cannabis, with ZERO deaths, with no M.D. overview, and about 15 percent of the U.S. population who make up the cannabis culture -- with NO recorded "marijuana deaths" in the death certificates or the news? No marijuana deaths, no matter how much you smoke at one time.
It is important to note that cannabis has been prescribed and used for centuries to treat some of these conditions, such as vomiting, muscle spasms, depression, pain control, anti-inflammatory and is somewhat of an aphrodisiac.
It doesn't always work -- but it DOESN'T KILL PEOPLE, EITHER!
Many times just being able to feel happy with no body pain and deep sleep is all a person needs to heal. Pain and suffering decrease immune system function. A big smile on your face turns the immune system on. When you are smiling, you are healing.
This huge psychological impact of cannabis is not recognized for its true worth. The "high" IS the cure!
The deaths recorded in relationship to these 17 FDA-approved drugs are all due to "adverse events." This means anything that caused people to die due to normal therapeutic doses, with the possibility of unforeseen major side effects, or accidental or purposeful overdose (both rare).
Mostly in these cases, people were just taking the normal dose as per doctor's orders and died directly due to the drug only.
Any time you take a prescribed drug, look it up and check its safety record. Remember all the drug commercials you see a hundred times a day? Part one, why you need this drug; part two, all the insane common major side effects -- like death! Hell, I almost died taking Lipitor!
Warning: Never discontinue taking a prescribed medicine on your own. Always talk to your doctor first before changing any drug treatment plan. Always talk with your M.D.; they are on your side.
So remind me again. Why is marijuana illegal?
Why is marijuana a "Schedule I" drug?
Why all the misinformation surrounding marijuana?
Why would drugs with such poor safety records be prescribed?
There is such an irrational resistance to this time-proven, gentle medicine.
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In the real world, the only way this could possibly happen would be something like you are trapped in a house made of cannabis, it's engulfed in flames and all the windows and doors are locked -- the mother of all bong rips!)
That would be one hell of a high, lol.
I smoke a couple of joints every 6 - 8 weeks and it's great. Wouldn't want to do it more often, though.
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Grass is up there with God.
xL
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That would be one hell of a high, lol.
I smoke a couple of joints every 6 - 8 weeks and it's great. Wouldn't want to do it more often, though.
Yes, it would...You would probally shit your pants and vomit at the same time as well...
I don't smoke weed anymore, it makes me think to much...I use drugs so i can slow down the thought process...
Besides, i already graduated from the weed acedemy and am on to the next big thing.
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Bud Buddies UK
BUD BUDDIES WAS FOUNDED TO HELP PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM A GENUINE ILLNESS. CANNABIS HAS BEEN USED MEDICINALLY FOR OVER 5,000 YEARS, MEDICAL USE WAS BANNED IN 1971, TODAY THE GOVERNMENT IS PROSECUTING AND PERSECUTING SICK PEOPLE FOR USING CANNABIS. IT HAS TO STOP. WE AT BUD BUDDIES DO NOT WISH FOR SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY TO HAVE TO HAVE CONTACT WITH THE CRIMINAL DRUG DEALERS WHO DEAL IN POOR QUALITY CANNABIS. SEE OUR WEBSITE FOR DETAILS. DUMP THE DEALER WITH WWW.UK420.COM
I haven't actually joined this group, but I thought it'd be funny to announce its existence.
You can get 'Medicinal Marijuana' in California?
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on to the next big thing.
such as?
xxxL
Alcohol is legal and 1000% more damaging. What type of pain relief are you looking for?
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Bud Buddies UK
BUD BUDDIES WAS FOUNDED TO HELP PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM A GENUINE ILLNESS. CANNABIS HAS BEEN USED MEDICINALLY FOR OVER 5,000 YEARS, MEDICAL USE WAS BANNED IN 1971, TODAY THE GOVERNMENT IS PROSECUTING AND PERSECUTING SICK PEOPLE FOR USING CANNABIS. IT HAS TO STOP. WE AT BUD BUDDIES DO NOT WISH FOR SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY TO HAVE TO HAVE CONTACT WITH THE CRIMINAL DRUG DEALERS WHO DEAL IN POOR QUALITY CANNABIS. SEE OUR WEBSITE FOR DETAILS. DUMP THE DEALER WITH WWW.UK420.COM
I haven't actually joined this group, but I thought it's funny
It's quite sad that MJ has such vast medical uses and the Government frowns upon its use. While pushing toxic expensive pharmaceutical alternatives
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such as?
xxxL
Alcohol is legal and 1000% more damaging. What type of pain relief are you looking for?
Let me tell the truth...On occiasion i like to do some cocaine, and when i do i enjoy "making" sex with hookers, or my girlfriend..
I only suffer from migraine headaches..i would like something that helped with those. However, only Imitrex, morphine, and cocaine seem to help..
However, I don't like using morphine to treat migraines, due to the ovious reasons..However, i'm prescibed it for migraine pain along with imitrex.
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Absolutely. As stated, I reckon that the fact that alcohol and nicotine are legal ought be queried?
The other thing that irks me enormously is that they think we'll smoke a joint then the next day start on crack or heroin.
Think I'll just smoke dope, thanks
xxxLinda
listen to music, create and think, laugh lots and type 100wpm on the www, that's nice, no?
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LOL this is the most retarted shit ive ever heard...
yes you cant overdose on pot, that doesnt make it safer than water LMFAO...
this is akin to spouting off that tobacco is safer than water ::)
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Let me tell the truth...On occiasion i like to do some cocaine, and when i do i enjoy "making" sex with hookers, or my girlfriend..
I only suffer from migraine headaches..i would like something that helped with those. However, only Imitrex, morphine, and cocaine seem to help..
However, I don't like using morphine to treat migraines, due to the ovious reasons..However, i'm prescibed it for migraine pain along with imitrex.
you're joking, right? you've just contradicted yourself and admitted to overdoing it.
Smoke a big fat joint next time you have a migraine
and just get over the rest, give up chemicals and etc.
x
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Absolutely. As stated, I reckon that the fact that alcohol and nicotine are legal ought be queried?
The other thing that irks me enormously is that they think we'll smoke a joint then the next day start on crack or heroin.
Think I'll just smoke dope, thanks
xxxLinda
listen to music, create and think, laugh lots and type 100wpm on the www, that's nice, no?
Weed does have the stigma of being a gateway drug..However, people who have never smoked weed mainly say that..I do belive that weed will make people more likley to revolt against their respective goverments..Which isn't a bad thing..
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LOL this is the most retarted shit ive ever heard...
yes you cant overdose on pot, that doesnt make it safer than water LMFAO...
this is akin to spouting off that tobacco is safer than water ::)
how old are you? Nicotine will kill you. Fact.
xL
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LOL this is the most retarted shit ive ever heard...
yes you cant overdose on pot, that doesnt make it safer than water LMFAO...
this is akin to spouting off that tobacco is safer than water ::)
Well your more likely to die from consuming to much water, than from weed..So move along you yank..
BTW your analogy is akin to shit...Hope this helps.
Besides Tabacco has nitotine which is a stimulant...To much of that stuff can kill you just like any other stimulant.
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Weed does have the stigma of being a gateway drug..However, people who have never smoked weed mainly say that..I do belive that weed will make people more likley to revolt against their respective goverments..Which isn't a bad thing..
Do they grow mj in tunisia, jordan, egypt, saudi arabia, libya and whereelse is it they're kicking off today? I think not.
sorry, I'm going for a holiday to British Colombia Canada. Either that or Kerala India. xxxL
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They grow mj in tunisia, jordan, egypt, saudi arabia, libya and whereelse is it they're kicking off today?
sorry, I'm going for a holiday to British Colombia Canada. Either that or Kerala India. xxxL
You can see why weed isn't exactly encouraged by the goverments...
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move along you wank..
BTW your analogy is akin to shit...Hope this helps.
xL
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how old are you? Nicotine will kill you. Fact.
xL
hmm what does age have to do with anything?
Im no straight laced goodie two shoes little lady ive done plenty of drugs in my past and was a more than anything a pot head...
LOL and so will smoking pot...
anybody that thinks that inhaling any form of smoke is not doing some harm to your system is fuking stupid...
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Well your more likely to die from consuming to much water, than from weed..So move along you yank..
BTW your analogy is akin to shit...Hope this helps.
Besides Tabacco has nitotine which is a stimulant...To much of that stuff can kill you just like any other stimulant.
LOL so youre more likely to get into an accident driving after smoking pot than drinking a glass of water...
youre more likely to build up tar and other chemicals within your body after smoking pot than drinking water...
the idea that simply b/c you cant over dose on pot makes it safe is assinine....you cant over dose from smoking cigs either so i guess that makes it safer than water too, right?
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You can see why weed isn't exactly encouraged by the goverments...
yours (I'm assuming you're American? has legalised it for medicinal use in Cali.
In my country (a little island the size of Lake Superior? they're still wrestling with foreign policy and banking crises. It'll take another 20 years for them to get their heads around taxing grass and reaping the profits.
As stated above, they toked once at Eton Uni and did a study with other like minded tossers and suddenly think that "drug dealers" deal in coke heroin crack as well as mj. In my experience, and I've smoked dope all my long and beautiful life, people who smoke weed don't mess with hard drugs.
Amsterdam is lovely.
They have menus there
xL
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you cant over dose from smoking cigs either so i guess ?
no silly man, you get lung cancer and die around 60 or 65 from nicotine and you don't even get off on it.
2 in 1 cigarette smokers die.
get with the program
we're not talking about stupid fags, we're talking about marijuana grass.
xL
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LOL so youre more likely to get into an accident driving after smoking pot than drinking a glass of water...(what if you drink 5 gallons in one sitting) surely you will die and hit another car, barrior etc.
youre more likely to build up tar and other chemicals within your body after smoking pot than drinking water...(water has floride, etc which is also toxic and mind altering)
the idea that simply b/c you cant over dose on pot makes it safe is assinine....you cant over dose from smoking cigs either so i guess that makes it safer than water too, right?
In theory you can die from the stimulation from the nicotine..
Now move along you yank.. ;D
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no silly man, you get lung cancer and die around 60 or 65 from nicotine and you don't even get off on it.
2 in 1 smokers die.
get with the program
xL
LOL thats not the reasoning behind the retards reasoning for saying pot is safer than water linda...
his reasoning is that pot is safer than water b/c you cant overdose on pot and if you drink enough water you will die...
you cant overdose on cigarettes linda so according to this moron cigarettes are safer than water too...GET IT?
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Now move along you yank.. ;D
LMFAO and in theory you can die from overdosing on pot...that doesnt mean its practically applicable...
hey youre free to look like as big of an idiot as you want to...just thought id point out how big of one you looked like just in case you wanted an idea of where you stood ;)
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move along you Wank
xL
next you'll say the pills you pop are safe. And I haven't even started discussing bottled water...
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move along you Wank
xL
next you'll say the pills you pop are safe. And I haven't even started discussing bottled water...
I dont pop pills darlin and what is the equivilent insult in american lingo for wank?
its not very nice calling me names there hun, i dont think youd like it if i started the same with you bi polar ass...;)
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LMFAO and in theory you can die from overdosing on pot...that doesn't mean its practically applicable...
hey youre free to look like as big of an idiot as you want to...just thought id point out how big of one you looked like just in case you wanted an idea of where you stood ;)
easy tiger...
It's pretty obvious this isn't a serious thread..It was just to show people that MJ never killed anyone directly from an overdose, whereas water has.
This isn't a johhny Failcon like thread about how MJ, Beans,H2O2 and sea-salt are good for epic failcon leans and immortally
Or a teen guide to healthy living by any strecth of the imagination...
Hope the helps.
http://current.com/16a514c
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Who is Johnny Failcon? He sounds like my type of guy! Pity I only rarely browse the Gen Tops
thanks for fun lololo : )
xxxL
Peace and Love
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what is the equivilent insult in american lingo for wank?
you maybe don't have a vocabulary including words like wanker or tosser, so you perhaps just masturbate ?
xxxL
you surely must have a slang word for that?
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you maybe don't have a vocabulary including words like wanker or tosser, so you maybe just masturbate ?
xxxL
you surely must have a slang word for that?
Tony Mctones is a Scouser.. He's also an Everton supporter
Failcon is a Methhead who creates shit thread on the main board when he's under the influence of meth. The're shit threads...
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Well that's funny then. I'm blown away. He can't be?
Liverpuddlians all have a fantastic sense of humour, every single one of them. And I should know.
You're having me on?
xxxLinda
yep, I was joking about Mr Fallcon, knew he was done for without ever reading anything he has to say.
is that why Tones is stalking me? 'cos me Grandad played for LFC and he supports Everton? Waaaaaaaaaaaaa
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easy tiger...
It's pretty obvious this isn't a serious thread..It was just to show people that MJ never killed anyone directly from an overdose, whereas water has.
This isn't a johhny Failcon like thread about how MJ, Beans,H2O2 and sea-salt are good for epic failcon leans and immortally
Or a teen guide to healthy living by any strecth of the imagination...
Hope the helps.
http://current.com/16a514c
hahahhaa good, good
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you maybe don't have a vocabulary including words like wanker or tosser, so you perhaps just masturbate ?
xxxL
you surely must have a slang word for that?
ahhhh, how is that an insult to you ppl? LOL
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Tony Mctones is a Scouser.. He's also an Everton supporter
Failcon is a Methhead who creates shit thread on the main board when he's under the influence of meth. The're shit threads...
LOL had to look "scouser" up :)
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what is the equivilent insult in american lingo for wank?
Jerkoff is the closest I can think of.
I don't think MJ is a gateway drug. I've been smoking it for years and it's the only stuff I do. I don't even drink that much. I think the people who go on to doing "higher" drugs just tend to cut their teeth on Pot, since it's less taboo, not very expensive and is easier to get your hands on, when you're in your late teens or slightly older, as opposed to things like Coke.
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Jerkoff is the closest I can think of.
I don't think MJ is a gateway drug. I've been smoking it for years and it's the only stuff I do. I don't even drink that much. I think the people who go on to doing "higher" drugs just tend to cut their teeth on Pot, since it's less taboo, not very expensive and is in a grey area.
ahhh didnt think about that, yea that seems pretty similar...
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the way i see it, just like with most life styles there are extremes...
The uber "counter culture" crowd ruins the "herb" for the rest of americans that actually are presentable, hold responsibilities and are capable being role models..all the while smoke pot on a daily basis.
Oh well. The de-criminalization of pot is a bit lower on the list of meaningful issues in this country TBH. At least at this point in time.
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You can over dose on water though genius, ever hear of hyper-hydration?
yes and techinically you can overdose on pot as well, scroll up and read the thread...
extreme cases both of them...
simply being able to overdose on water easier than pot doesnt make it safer...
its safer in ONE aspect but overall water is much safer than pot brain children ;)
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So remind me again. Why is marijuana illegal?
Why is marijuana a "Schedule I" drug?
Why all the misinformation surrounding marijuana?
Why would drugs with such poor safety records be prescribed?
There is such an irrational resistance to this time-proven, gentle medicine.
one of my college professors say it is becuase marijuana isnt a white mans drug.
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one of my college professors say it is becuase marijuana isnt a white mans drug.
you go to UH H?
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you go to UH H?
What's UH?
I went to Texas state
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What's UH?
I went to Texas state
LOL University of Houston I saw HTexan and figured Houston
ahhh good old southwest, I had alot of good times in san marcos back in the day.
by the way we own your asses in the fooseball :) lol just playing, but we do...
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LOL University of Houston I saw HTexan and figured Houston
ahhh good old southwest, I had alot of good times in san marcos back in the day.
by the way we own your asses in the fooseball :) lol just playing, but we do...
I went after the name change. So Texas state. ;D
And yes we sucked donkey dick at football. I never went to a game and the tickets were free. :-\
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I went after the name change. So Texas state. ;D
And yes we sucked donkey dick at football. I never went to a game and the tickets were free. :-\
LOL yea i think it may have been texas state when my buddies went there too, i just remember growing up and knowing it as southwest.
LOL it was the same pretty much at UH they charged 10 bucks or so for the big games against big 12 schools but conference USA games were generally free. I only went to one UH game but it was FREAKING AWESOME ...paper, rock, scissors for pulls of jim beam and we rushed the field after we won...LOL
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you know any sigma nu's up there?
had a bunch of friends in that frat
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Oh well. The de-criminalization of pot is a bit lower on the list of meaningful issues in this country TBH. At least at this point in time.
actually it's a very meaningful issue at this point in time.the economy is the #1 issue..the country is nearly bankrupt and legalization would bring in huge revenue...
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you know any sigma nu's up there?
had a bunch of friends in that frat
Not really.
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actually it's a very meaningful issue at this point in time.the economy is the #1 issue..the country is nearly bankrupt and legalization would bring in huge revenue...
this is an important issue on a board which someone else suggests is just a jokey thread...
i live in the middle of London England and it's so expensive. Yet I'm convinced that 51% of the population enjoys mj. I've smoked with cops, teachers, and bosses. ...Maybe it's just the people I meet.
Amsterdam is 1-2 hours away and I understand that mj is medicinally prescribed in Cali?
with love
xxxLinda
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the way i see it, just like with most life styles there are extremes...
The uber "counter culture" crowd ruins the "herb" for the rest of americans that actually are presentable, hold responsibilities and are capable being role models..all the while smoke pot on a daily basis.
Oh well. The de-criminalization of pot is a bit lower on the list of meaningful issues in this country . At least at this point in time.
as is this post. Like, prioritise your 'meaningful issues' and see how long we've been banging on about them...
I didn't burn my bra in the 60s for feminism, or chain myself to the railings in the 1920's to get the vote, but I was always a bit of a hippy, a rock n'roller and punk - and feel that the legalisation (or at least decriminalisation) of marijuana is one of my top 5 or 10 issues...
Water will soon be more precious than diamonds.
madly
xxxLinda