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Title: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alex23 on April 12, 2011, 01:42:10 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42540300/ns/politics-decision_2012/

WASHINGTON — Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney became the second major Republican to announce a challenge to President Barack Obama in 2012, declaring he would "put America back on a course of greatness."
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2011, 01:51:38 PM
Looks jacked and tanned ready for a challenge.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: obtuse_waiter on April 12, 2011, 01:52:38 PM
LOVe ROMNEY

he will make a monkey out of obama not on the telestraotr in debates

esp with mountain fo fail obama has

lol
YEAHEHAHE


only oen id prefer is the donald!!!

Ps fuck religion
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alex23 on April 12, 2011, 01:54:48 PM
LOVe ROMNEY

he will make a monkey out of obama not on the telestraotr in debates

esp with mountain fo fail obama has

lol
YEAHEHAHE


only oen id prefer is the donald!!!

Ps fuck religion

I highly doubt Rom will play the religion card..  he actually moved toward the center a lot the last few years..
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: body88 on April 12, 2011, 02:01:56 PM
I love it. Bane Capital bitch.

Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 12, 2011, 02:30:48 PM
where has romney been since december 2008?  this guy hasn't done shit since.  walker from wisoncsin or the fat guy from jersey would be my pick.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: obtuse_waiter on April 12, 2011, 03:34:54 PM
many awesomecandidates

tea party has done a great job letting everyone know that the communsit viewpoint is rejected by normal americans despite emdia bullshit and college brainwashing bullshit

michelel bachmann
newt gingrich
the donald
mitt romney
walker from WI awesome
guy from new jersey New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
governor of maine Gov. Paul LePage
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: obtuse_waiter on April 12, 2011, 03:54:19 PM
many awesomecandidates

tea party has done a great job letting everyone know that the communsit viewpoint is rejected by normal americans despite emdia bullshit and college brainwashing bullshit

michelel bachmann
newt gingrich
the donald
mitt romney
walker from WI awesome
guy from new jersey New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
governor of maine Gov. Paul LePage
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 03:58:52 PM
A frigging Mormon. I don't trust anyone with a religious agenda, especially someone that wears full body underwear... :(
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Game Time on April 12, 2011, 03:59:40 PM
The media loves to portray the horror stories but how bad are things in the states right now?

Input from anyone who lives there would be interesting
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 12, 2011, 03:59:56 PM
Yes, we don't want those evil Christians in there spouting off about God and all...haha!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 04:01:22 PM
Yes, we don't want those evil Christians in there spouting off about God and all...haha!
they arent evil...just stupid...adults should not have imaginary friends..even if there imaginary friends name is god..

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 04:08:08 PM
Yes, we don't want those evil Christians in there spouting off about God and all...haha!

Not in government. 100% SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. This is a republic, not a theocracy.

The LDS have a lot of money, and their own agenda. No thank you.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 04:10:23 PM
Not in government. 100% SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. This is a republic, not a theocracy.

The LDS have a lot of money, and their own agenda. No thank you.
that's no shit...the government is corrupt enough without a religious agenda..

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 04:32:37 PM
And the LDS has a lot of power. They pretty much run Utah. Very exclusionist if you aren't one of them.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 04:34:04 PM
And the LDS has a lot of power. They pretty much run Utah. Very exclusionist if you aren't one of them.
you mean like the government is anyway?

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: BayGBM on April 12, 2011, 04:35:26 PM
Romney on abortion

Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on April 12, 2011, 04:35:59 PM
huseein shoudl eb kicked out of office ,,he has done nothing for americana,,simply sit there and live on generation nothingness worshipping,,its very weird and very disturbing,,atleast bush ruined the country but was active in killing or trying to kill and bring good to bad places....this fella does nothing,,both were horrid,,

romney will be million times better but romney is ummmtoo squicky clean ,,still not the fully right person ,,but much much MUCHHHHHHHHHH better than obama

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 12, 2011, 04:36:06 PM
Vulcan grip and 3 wives. I'm guessing Romney is a Getbigger. Probably has his fish flown in from Seattle.

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Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2011, 04:37:32 PM
Did this  F a g g o t    ever serve in the military? Or is he another Clinton / Obama ?


Can't stand presidents that send troops to fight wars when they never put their own necks on the line for their country
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on April 12, 2011, 04:41:02 PM
just a rich fella trying to bring back some reagan in era that doesnt and cant have reagans due to the type of generations,,,,but! romney is a furious business man ,,he is not reagan like ,,he lack the over all vision ,,,he is good but good is not great,,

romney is the 197lb bodybuildr at 6% that still hold 10 lb water on his frame

reagan was the 197 lb bodybuild at 6% that came dry and hard every single time

good vs great,,
romney is a wanna be still
reagan is well top 5 presidents in history of americana

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 12, 2011, 04:42:33 PM
Did this  F a g g o t    ever serve in the military? Or is he another Clinton / Obama ?


Can't stand presidents that send troops to fight wars when they never put their own necks on the line for their country

There known as "chicken Hawks". Mother fjckers got no business being called Commander and Chief. Obama is the king of "chicken Hawks"
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 04:44:59 PM
huseein shoudl eb kicked out of office ,,he has done nothing for americana,,simply sit there and live on generation nothingness worshipping,,its very weird and very disturbing,,atleast bush ruined the country but was active in killing or trying to kill and bring good to bad places....this fella does nothing,,both were horrid,,

romney will be million times better but romney is ummmtoo squicky clean ,,still not the fully right person ,,but much much MUCHHHHHHHHHH better than obama

gh15 approved
no US president has ever done anything for america...hope this helps....doesnt matter who is in office, they will fuck it up...to many people with personal financial agendas...

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
just a rich fella trying to bring back some reagan in era that doesnt and cant have reagans due to the type of generations,,,,but! romney is a furious business man ,,he is not reagan like ,,he lack the over all vision ,,,he is good but good is not great,,

romney is the 197lb bodybuildr at 6% that still hold 10 lb water on his frame

reagan was the 197 lb bodybuild at 6% that came dry and hard every single time

good vs great,,
romney is a wanna be still
reagan is well top 5 presidents in history of americana

gh15 approved
no, reagan was a better actor than most presidents...people remember him from speaches...nothing more...

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: BayGBM on April 12, 2011, 04:49:51 PM
Did this  F a g g o t    ever serve in the military? Or is he another Clinton / Obama ?


Can't stand presidents that send troops to fight wars when they never put their own necks on the line for their country

Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld.  None of them saw combat.

Bush was famously safe in the National Guard.  Cheney got multiple deferments during Vietnam. I don’t think he ever put on a military uniform nor picked up a gun (unless his opponent was a bird).  Interesting that he became defense secretary.  :-[
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 04:52:51 PM
Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld.  None of them saw combat.

Bush was famously safe in the National Guard.  Cheney got multiple deferments during Vietnam. I don’t think he ever put on a military uniform nor picked up a gun (unless his opponent was a bird).  Interesting that he became defense secretary.  :-[

america...home of nepotism, and ever growing disgrace because of it...

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2011, 04:53:17 PM
Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld.  None of them saw combat.

Bush was famously safe in the National Guard.  Cheney got multiple deferments during Vietnam. I don’t think he ever put on a military uniform nor picked up a gun (unless his opponent was a bird).  Interesting that he became defense secretary.  :-[



You mean George Bush wasn't a Fighter Pilot  ???   ;D

All these prez are a damn joke...


(http://silentrunning.blogspot.com/images/cinc1.jpg)
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 04:54:20 PM
Just some food for thought...



US Government control by the Mormon Church is a possibility if the conspiracy isn't exposed.

U S Government involvment by the Mormon Church is a conspiracy generally unknown by American Citizens. The Mormon Church intends to control the U S Government.

The Mormon church control of the U S government is written about in the scholarly book The Mormon Conspiracy which provides a summary of the history and current practices of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to become a dominant force in governing the United States. Mormon Church leaders have plans to ordain their President as the ruling king to be established in the US government and eventually the world. It is believed that the General Authorities have established the framework to rule the U S government by secretly continuing the Council of Fifty originally established by church founder Joseph Smith and continued by long time president of the church, Brigham Young. The council of Fifty is prepared to assume top positions necessary to administer the affairs of the country. The Council of Fifty would be in the hands of the king, (the President of the Mormon Church), his two Counselors and the Twelve Apostles. Common consent rules the governing of this group. That is, the President consults with his counselors and apostles and the “king” then puts his proposals to his Counselor and Apostles for unanimous approval.

In this type of leadership there would be no opposition party. The General Authorities of the Mormon Church would rule nations in the same way that they govern the church today, making decisions and passing them down to church members. Church authority is absolute in the relationship between the General Authorities, lower echelon administrators and the church membership.

Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2011, 04:56:05 PM
Then....

(http://www.worldculturepictorial.com/images/content_2/george-washington_in_battle.jpg)



Now....


(http://www.barackobamaandusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/345bc134daJEANS.jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 04:58:53 PM

You mean George Bush wasn't a Fighter Pilot  ???   ;D

All these prez are a damn joke...


(http://silentrunning.blogspot.com/images/cinc1.jpg)
not just presidents...but look at the current generals we have...most of them have never seen combat...but they give direct orders to be followed by troops in combat..

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 05:01:17 PM
Hey guys, what's with all the Obama hate, did i miss something?

"Change", "Yes, we can"??

No one??




































































Just kidding.  ;D ;D

On a side note: Newt Gingrich goes for the presidency? He should know best what kind of a fucked up job it can be, especially if the speaker of the House of Reps steps on you nuts constantly.... LOL
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2011, 05:03:19 PM
Hey guys, what's with all the Obama hate, did i miss something?

"Change", "Yes, we can"??

No one??




































































Just kidding.  ;D ;D

On a side note: Newt Gingrich goes for the presidency? He should know best what kind of a fucked up job it can be, especially if the speaker of the House of Reps steps on you nuts constantly.... LOL


Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 05:04:08 PM
Hey guys, what's with all the Obama hate, did i miss something?

"Change", "Yes, we can"??

No one??




































































Just kidding.  ;D ;D

On a side note: Newt Gingrich goes for the presidency? He should know best what kind of a fucked up job it can be, especially if the speaker of the House of Reps steps on you nuts constantly.... LOL
no obama hate from me...i think all politicians, and people who support them are traitors, and should be treated accordingly...

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 05:05:41 PM



Are you saying that black people voting is a shitty idea in general?

no obama hate from me...i think all politicians, and people who support them are traitors, and should be treated accordingly...

bench

Kill all people that have ever voted for a politician?
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2011, 05:08:01 PM


Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Boost on April 12, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Politics is show business for ugly people
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 05:08:44 PM
They're all full of shit, no doubt. Pawns of the mega corporations. But pushing a religious agenda is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: benchmstr on April 12, 2011, 05:10:08 PM

Kill all people that have ever voted for a politician?

or deport or imprison...there are 2 constants in the fall of every great civilization

1)politics
2)religion

i am firmly against both....you add the human element and everthing go's to shit....politics, and religion have prooven that since the beginning of time..

bench
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
or deport or imprison...there are 2 constants in the fall of every great civilization

1)politics
2)religion

i am firmly against both....you add the human element and everthing go's to shit....politics, and religion have prooven that since the beginning of time..

bench

LOL, so what kind of state do you suggest?
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: TommyBoy on April 12, 2011, 05:37:52 PM
many awesomecandidates

tea party has done a great job letting everyone know that the communsit viewpoint is rejected by normal americans despite emdia bullshit and college brainwashing bullshit

michelel bachmann
newt gingrich
the donald
mitt romney
walker from WI awesome
guy from new jersey New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
governor of maine Gov. Paul LePage

If you aren't a paid shill you should be.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 06:36:40 PM
just a rich fella trying to bring back some reagan in era that doesnt and cant have reagans due to the type of generations,,,,but! romney is a furious business man ,,he is not reagan like ,,he lack the over all vision ,,,he is good but good is not great,,

romney is the 197lb bodybuildr at 6% that still hold 10 lb water on his frame

reagan was the 197 lb bodybuild at 6% that came dry and hard every single time

good vs great,,
romney is a wanna be still
reagan is well top 5 presidents in history of americana

gh15 approved

What about Trump? 10-12%? Delusional Goodrum?
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 12, 2011, 06:39:13 PM
or deport or imprison...there are 2 constants in the fall of every great civilization

1)politics
2)religion

i am firmly against both....you add the human element and everthing go's to shit....politics, and religion have prooven that since the beginning of time..

bench

actually, it would be:

1. spreading an empire out too thin (makes for a logistical, economic, and army nightmare, even to this day)
2. trying to be too PC, i.e. empires attempting to make themselves "melting pots" instead of having seggregated regions and duly appointed representatives, and failing to recognize the insurgencies within
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: delta9mda on April 12, 2011, 06:41:40 PM
Not in government. 100% SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. This is a republic, not a theocracy.

The LDS have a lot of money, and their own agenda. No thank you.

separation of church and state does not mean you cant have a religion and be in govt. it means the govt can not tell you what religion to be. get your shit straight.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 06:42:20 PM
separation of church and state does not mean you cant have a religion and be in govt. it means the govt can not tell you what religion to be. get your shit straight.

BOOM!

Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 06:44:40 PM
Did this  F a g g o t    ever serve in the military? Or is he another Clinton / Obama ?


Can't stand presidents that send troops to fight wars when they never put their own necks on the line for their country

Like Lincoln and Reagan.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 06:47:34 PM
A frigging Mormon. I don't trust anyone with a religious agenda, especially someone that wears full body underwear... :(

What makes you think he has a religious agenda. Did he as governor? Did Kennedy have a Catholic agenda? Did Reagan, Carter, Clinton, both Bushes have a Christian agenda? Having a value system based on your religious beliefs does not imply an agenda. Every President we've ever had believed, or at least claimed to believe, in God.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 06:49:01 PM
The media loves to portray the horror stories but how bad are things in the states right now?

Input from anyone who lives there would be interesting

By the end of his term Obama will have spent more than all the previous administrations combined in our 200 year history.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 06:50:57 PM
And the LDS has a lot of power. They pretty much run Utah. Very exclusionist if you aren't one of them.

Maybe in Utah but not in the country. Catholics, and for that matter the Tea Party, has more pull.
Mormons are not a major factor or influence in our country.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 06:51:00 PM
What makes you think he has a religious agenda. Did he as governor? Did Kennedy have a Catholic agenda? Did Reagan, Carter, Clinton, both Bushes have a Christian agenda? Having a value system based on your religious beliefs does not imply an agenda. Every President we've ever had believed, or at least claimed to believe, in God.

You have to swear an oath on the bible to become President.

The US builds on Christianity, so it's impossible for a non-christian to become president.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 12, 2011, 06:51:14 PM
also, let's not forget Romneycare.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 06:54:58 PM
no US president has ever done anything for america...hope this helps....doesnt matter who is in office, they will fuck it up...to many people with personal financial agendas...

bench

So you think that if Carter had beaten Reagan that we would have won the Cold War? Today's the anniversary of the Civil War. Do you think having Lincoln as president mattered? How about Washington in our war or independence? Did Truman do anything to get Japan to surrender?

Presidents matter. They matter a whole lot. I assume you don't vote. Keep it that way.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:01:05 PM
no, reagan was a better actor than most presidents...people remember him from speaches...nothing more...

bench

I guess you don't remember when he fired all the air traffic controllers which we would find out later made a huge impression on the Russians indicating that he was no Carter and was going to be pushed around. Remember the Pershing missiles in Europe? Bombing Khadaffi and sending him back into his hole for decades. Lifted the price ceilings Carter imposed on gas causing long gas lines. I lived through that. You think the hostages in Iran would have been released if we reelected Carter?

Maybe you remember him just for speeches but most that actually followed what went on in this country at the time remember him for more. Much, much more. He made a huge difference. And a difference for the better.   

Stick to guns.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:02:01 PM
Bush. Cheney. Rumsfeld.  None of them saw combat.

Bush was famously safe in the National Guard.  Cheney got multiple deferments during Vietnam. I don’t think he ever put on a military uniform nor picked up a gun (unless his opponent was a bird).  Interesting that he became defense secretary.  :-[


There's a reason. A very good reason why our military has civilian oversight.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 07:02:47 PM
many awesomecandidates

tea party has done a great job letting everyone know that the communsit viewpoint is rejected by normal americans despite emdia bullshit and college brainwashing bullshit

michelel bachmann
newt gingrich
the donald
mitt romney
walker from WI awesome
guy from new jersey New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
governor of maine Gov. Paul LePage
Yup, screw the working guys/unions in the middle class and be sure that those really rich guys and CEO's don't pay taxes!  
Pay more for your health care and gas to keep the rich  even richer.
It is all about follow the $$$ folks and if you think ANY major canidate in either party has your back , you are delusional.
No, I am not thriled with the dems but compared to the lobby in the GOP, I vote for the lesser of 2 evils my friend.
Unless you make over 250 k a yr, you are NOT voting your economic interest if you vote republican.
Think and vote with your wallet not your emotions, that is what the rich guys do and they don't care about "us" trust me.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 07:03:28 PM
There's a reason. A very good reason why our military has civilian oversight.

Are you saying that putting a state army into the hands of someone willing to use it may be a stupid idea?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:04:36 PM
Just some food for thought...



US Government control by the Mormon Church is a possibility if the conspiracy isn't exposed.

U S Government involvment by the Mormon Church is a conspiracy generally unknown by American Citizens. The Mormon Church intends to control the U S Government.

The Mormon church control of the U S government is written about in the scholarly book The Mormon Conspiracy which provides a summary of the history and current practices of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to become a dominant force in governing the United States. Mormon Church leaders have plans to ordain their President as the ruling king to be established in the US government and eventually the world. It is believed that the General Authorities have established the framework to rule the U S government by secretly continuing the Council of Fifty originally established by church founder Joseph Smith and continued by long time president of the church, Brigham Young. The council of Fifty is prepared to assume top positions necessary to administer the affairs of the country. The Council of Fifty would be in the hands of the king, (the President of the Mormon Church), his two Counselors and the Twelve Apostles. Common consent rules the governing of this group. That is, the President consults with his counselors and apostles and the “king” then puts his proposals to his Counselor and Apostles for unanimous approval.

In this type of leadership there would be no opposition party. The General Authorities of the Mormon Church would rule nations in the same way that they govern the church today, making decisions and passing them down to church members. Church authority is absolute in the relationship between the General Authorities, lower echelon administrators and the church membership.



So it's not the Jews or the Illuminati? All this power and still the LDS can't get a Mormon in any position of higher office in the Federal gov.  

Oh brother. Please tell me you don't vote.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:05:45 PM
no obama hate from me...i think all politicians, and people who support them are traitors, and should be treated accordingly...

bench

And you work and get paid by the government.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:07:33 PM
or deport or imprison...there are 2 constants in the fall of every great civilization

1)politics
2)religion

i am firmly against both....you add the human element and everthing go's to shit....politics, and religion have prooven that since the beginning of time..

bench

Name a single successful country that didn't have a government run, by definition, by politicians. In fact, name any country.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:09:01 PM
separation of church and state does not mean you cant have a religion and be in govt. it means the govt can not tell you what religion to be. get your shit straight.

x2. A lot of ignorant, misinformed and uninformed peeps on this thread. Government run schools are definitely doing their jobs well.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 07:09:17 PM


I saw that on election night and while I voted for Obama I was like OMG! Is that woman for real.
Any good political figure of either party gets the public all worked up on EMOTIONAL issues.
The rich folks rarely do. They lobby , contribute and vote for who will try and get them the biggest tax breaks and profit margins.
Sadly most poor working smucks on either side vote on emotional crap.

As a career public school physics teacher I tend to vote democratic because they support my own  interests.
I could care less about gay marriage or abortion or religion, etc.
Vote your own interest, that is what the rich and powerful do.
It is all about the $$.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 07:11:38 PM
So it's not the Jews or the Illuminati? All this power and still the LDS can't get a Mormon in any position of higher office in the Federal gov.  

Oh brother. Please tell me you don't vote.

between the conspiracy crap and emotional issues like sex and religion it is little wonder that that avg slob doesn't actuall vote their own $$ interest.I guess they are too worried about stuff that has NO direct impact on THEIR individual life.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
You have to swear an oath on the bible to become President.

The US builds on Christianity, so it's impossible for a non-christian to become president.

This country was built on Judea/Christian ethics and it's a value system the majority embrace. I don't think it's impossible for a non-Christian to become President as I would have no problem with Romney being a Mormon though I think their faith is wacky.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:14:46 PM
I saw that on election night and while I voted for Obama I was like OMG! Is that woman for real.
Any good political figure of either party gets the public all worked up on EMOTIONAL issues.
The rich folks rarely do. They lobby , contribute and vote for who will try and get them the biggest tax breaks and profit margins.
Sadly most poor working smucks on either side vote on emotional crap.

As a career public school physics teacher I tend to vote democratic because they support my own  interests.
I could care less about gay marriage or abortion or religion, etc.
Vote your own interest, that is what the rich and powerful do.
It is all about the $$.

Why don't you vote for the best interest of the country? I had a friend who voted for Clinton solely so that he could get more student loans. Show a little depth for chrissakes!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:17:21 PM
The religion I favor, is FREEDOM from religion.
Thank GOD  ;) for the establishment clause and separation of church and state.

There's no such clause. We still swear on the Bible. Our whole country was founded on Christian ethics and value system. But there is no State religion nor should there be. We are a very tolerate of other religious faiths and non religious faiths. Too much in some cases.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: delta9mda on April 12, 2011, 07:20:04 PM
BOOM!


double BOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: delta9mda on April 12, 2011, 07:20:59 PM
There's no such clause. We still swear on the Bible. Our whole country was founded on Christian ethics and value system. But there is no State religion nor should there be. We are a very tolerate of other religious faiths and non religious faiths. Too much in some cases.
Howard OWNED
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 07:21:17 PM
There's no such clause. We still swear on the Bible. Our whole country was founded on Christian ethics and value system. But there is no State religion nor should there be. We are a very tolerate of other religious faiths and non religious faiths. Too much in some cases.
1. The GOV shall not sanction an official state religion 2. the GOV shall not infringe on the rights to engage in personal religious faith of any kind.

I choose to follow NO faith.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: delta9mda on April 12, 2011, 07:23:19 PM
1. The GOV shall not sanction an official state religion 2. the GOV shall not infringe on the rights to engage in personal religious faith of any kind.

I choose to follow NO faith.
that is fine for you Howard. it still doesnt say that you cant practice religion and be in govt.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: delta9mda on April 12, 2011, 07:24:10 PM
You obviously don't know that the "establishnet claus " is part of the 1st ammendment.
Read the actual constitution you idiot.
no need for name calling man, i didnt vote for obama. whos the idiot now?
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
Why don't you vote for the best interest of the country? I had a friend who voted for Clinton solely so that he could get more student loans. Show a little depth for chrissakes!


1. The wealthy powerbrokers vote ONLY their interest.
2. I served my country and a former active duty US marine. I now work as a physics teacher trying to make some students learn this crap and get jobs .
3. At the end of the Clinton 2nd term we had a surplus, not too shabby 'eh.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 07:27:05 PM
There's no such clause. We still swear on the Bible. Our whole country was founded on Christian ethics and value system. But there is no State religion nor should there be. We are a very tolerate of other religious faiths and non religious faiths. Too much in some cases.

BOOM!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
1. The GOV shall not sanction an official state religion 2. the GOV shall not infringe on the rights to engage in personal religious faith of any kind.

I choose to follow NO faith.

So what's the problem?
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:32:37 PM
You obviously don't know that the "establisment clause " is part of the 1st ammendment.
Read the actual constitution you idiot.

Show me where it says that there should be and is a "separation of church and state"?

Howard, if we were to take a poll of how many people think you are an idiot what do you think the percentage would be? You get very little respect here and for good reason.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 07:32:47 PM
that is fine for you Howard. it still doesnt say that you cant practice religion and be in govt.
No kidding!

I voted for Obama and think he was the better choice in the general election.
I voted for McCain in the 200o GOP primary, believe it or not.
he went way too far right wing and picked Palin in 2008.

What the new republican party does is use class warfare as a bad thing.
They do a great job getting the avg middle class voter to think if you ever make it big$$, you don't want to be taxed  now do ya, and that is socialism.NOBODY likes to think or admit they are an avg working slob so they vote with the "rich folks", thinking they are more like them...guess again.
Problem is 99.9% will never get there and like me, and most middle class slobs , you work for a living and need the Gov bennefits of medicare when you retire.
Go back 100 yrs and see how things were for senior citizens before FDR.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 12, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
no need for name calling man, i didnt vote for obama. whos the idiot now?

LOL!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 07:52:54 PM
separation of church and state does not mean you cant have a religion and be in govt. it means the govt can not tell you what religion to be. get your shit straight.

My shit is straight. Of course everyone should have the freedom to practice (or not) whatever religion they choose. It's when an elected official's religious beliefs influence their decision making process, that's where I have a problem...
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
Damn, Howard gets owned badly once again.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 07:57:05 PM
Name a single successful country that didn't have a government run, by definition, by politicians. In fact, name any country.
"Wonkaland "  dictator Willy Wonka uses slave labor via Oompa Loompas and never was elected by any vote.
He is king, and has no peers. Wakaland is by far one of the most succesful organizations and voted top 10 places to retire to.

On a serious note Saudi Arabia, Jordon , Kuwait and UAE are very wealthy countries and run by a king, shiek or emmir that never got elected.
Boooooooooooooooooooo yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
There's no such clause. We still swear on the Bible. Our whole country was founded on Christian ethics and value system. But there is no State religion nor should there be. We are a very tolerate of other religious faiths and non religious faiths. Too much in some cases.
Hmm, I must have been reading the wrong 1st ammendment all these yrs.
I could have sworn I read the Estabishment Clause as part of the 1st ammendment, but hey, if the getbig constitutional law scholars say it isn't in there then I guess it isn't.  ;)
Once more, the getbig scholars have owned me.  :D
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 08:05:04 PM
This country was built on Judea/Christian ethics and it's a value system the majority embrace. I don't think it's impossible for a non-Christian to become President as I would have no problem with Romney being a Mormon though I think their faith is wacky.

"Wacky" is one way to put it. A large part of a true practicing Mormon's life is intertwined with the church. A lot of brainwashing shit going on. And usually religion and intolerance go hand and hand. If people would just live and let live, this world would be an immesurably better place.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 08:08:08 PM
So it's not the Jews or the Illuminati? All this power and still the LDS can't get a Mormon in any position of higher office in the Federal gov.  

Oh brother. Please tell me you don't vote.


I don't vote for anyone with intolerant beliefs, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 08:08:25 PM
"Wonkaland "  dictator Willy Wonka uses slave labor via Oompa Loompas and never was elected by any vote.
He is king, and has no peers. Wakaland is by far one of the most succesful organizations and voted top 10 places to retire to.

On a serious note Saudi Arabia, Jordon , Kuwait and UAE are very wealthy countries and run by a king, shiek or emmir that never got elected.
Boooooooooooooooooooo yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

So a King is not a politician?  ::) ::) ::)
Neither are Sheiks or Emirs?

My god, you are fucking stupid, howard.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
There's no such clause. We still swear on the Bible. Our whole country was founded on Christian ethics and value system. But there is no State religion nor should there be. We are a very tolerate of other religious faiths and non religious faiths. Too much in some cases.

Lol, this, like all empires, was founded on slavery and genocide.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 08:14:11 PM
So a King is not a politician?  ::) ::) ::)
Neither are Sheiks or Emirs?

My god, you are fucking stupid, howard.
LOL so I am retard for NOT calling a King a "politician" hmmmm.
Let's get serious and actually break this down ok sweety.
1. Politics means running for elected office and having an actual election with voters.
Last I checked a King does not take part in an election or get voted in.

You may want to consider them as "politcal figures" which is fine but they are not true politicians based on the actual nature of politics.

Of coursea dumb ass like me doesn't speak meathead.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 08:15:13 PM
Lol, this, like all empires, was founded on slavery and genocide.
Praise the lord and pass the ammunition. amen .
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 08:19:41 PM
LOL so I am retard for NOT calling a King a "politician" hmmmm.
Let's get serious and actually break this down ok sweety.
1. Politics means running for elected office and having an actual election with voters.
Last I checked a King does not take part in an election or get voted in.

You may want to consider them as "politcal figures" which is fine but they are not true politicians based on the actual nature of politics.

Of coursea dumb ass like me doesn't speak meathead.

Wrong, a king is a politician.

Being elected or not is not part of the definition of being a politician or not. Election comes with a democratic state form.

There are tons of other state forms which don't have elections, or are you telling me that the PM of China is not a politician because China has no elections??

You're stupid, Howard, has nothing to do with being meathead or not.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 08:25:37 PM
"Wacky" is one way to put it. A large part of a true practicing Mormon's life is intertwined with the church. A lot of brainwashing shit going on. And usually religion and intolerance go hand and hand. If people would just live and let live, this world would be an immesurably better place.
I seriously doubt Mitt Romney really cares about what the Mormon church thinks.
To get elected you have to have some religious faith in this country.
All the top caidates pull the personal religious faith card out thier behinds to convince the masses they are like everyone else.
Obama and McCain BOTH did that in 2008.
Obama is not a magic man nor was McCain a bad guy or some miracle worker.
You just hope they do a competent job and make the best judgemnets they can for our nation.
THAT is the best you are going to get.

Look folks, the only advice I can give is to vote for own economic interest.
The rich and powerful have always done that and always will.
Forget some wacky conpsiracy crap or emotional issues that have no actual substance on your daily life.
Just remmeber it is called "socialism" when the rich don't get it. ;)
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 12, 2011, 08:28:08 PM
Wrong, a king is a politician.

Being elected or not is not part of the definition of being a politician or not. Election comes with a democratic state form.

There are tons of other state forms which don't have elections, or are you telling me that the PM of China is not a politician because China has no elections??

You're stupid, Howard, has nothing to do with being meathead or not.

I can't even comment on "that"....
I guess I need to read a book someday.
Good night and no hard feelings. I don't think you are meathead, seriously I am just having fun , take care dude.

Just remember to vote your interest and use logic when voting NOT emotion and you will be fine. Good night
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 12, 2011, 08:36:23 PM
I can't even comment on "that"....
I guess I need to read a book someday.
Good night and no hard feelings. I don't think you are meathead, seriously I am just having fun , take care dude.

Just remember to vote your interest and use logic when voting NOT emotion and you will be fine. Good night

Sorry to bust your dream about politics, guess you're as delusional about politics as you are about bodybuilding, drug use and your own heterosexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician

Quote
A politician or political leader (from Greek "polis") is an individual who is involved in influencing public policy and decision making. This includes people who hold decision-making positions in government, and people who seek those positions, whether by means of election, coup d'état, appointment, electoral fraud, conquest, right of inheritance (see also: divine right) or other means. Politics is not limited to governance through public office. Political offices may also be held in corporations, and other entities that are governed by self-defined political processes.

hth
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on April 12, 2011, 08:58:02 PM
I guess you don't remember when he fired all the air traffic controllers which we would find out later made a huge impression on the Russians indicating that he was no Carter and was going to be pushed around. Remember the Pershing missiles in Europe? Bombing Khadaffi and sending him back into his hole for decades. Lifted the price ceilings Carter imposed on gas causing long gas lines. I lived through that. You think the hostages in Iran would have been released if we reelected Carter?

Maybe you remember him just for speeches but most that actually followed what went on in this country at the time remember him for more. Much, much more. He made a huge difference. And a difference for the better.   

Stick to guns.

i was about to answer him but you did good job ,,

reagan was far more than president ,,he was the nation of americnaa heart beat,, he was not only an actor which president should be able to do ofcourse but ! he was mainly the poster boy for americana ,,he was americana,,

he did too many things to mention and pelius mentioned few but you mesuere a president by the production of society during its time,,from all perspectives,,and i shall talk a bit about the artistic calture both music and movies,,


1. goonies
2 et
3stand by me
4terminator
5indiana    jones
6 platoon
7 the emoire stike back
8die hard
9poltergaist
10 dirty dancing
11back to the future
12goshst busters
13big ,,i cry to this day when i see the end of that movie
14arthur
15the road warriror/mad max

many many many more this is just slight little example


music...i cant even start naming it all just pull out of my ass few names

wham
george michael
michael jackson
cindy louper
bruce springsteen
dire striaghts
madona
foreigner
journey
rod stewart
elton john
string

many many many more


now....president that bring such a culture into existance is and should be known as the greatest president in the second half of the 20s century and he indeed is,,

he is among the 5 best presidents the united states of america has ever had,,

lincoln
washington
rosevelt ww2
reagan


thos are my top 4 presidents of the usa,,

reagan had compassion he let amnesty be reality for many many hard working people he put the pen down and did it HIS WAY ,,he made everyone a follower beacuse he had a poet spirit and a lion heart

he was the gentle warrior and thus i believe his face shall be on mount rashmor by the end of this first half century meaning by 2050 reagan will be on mount rashmor,,therre will be 5 faces there

wait
and
see!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: sync pulse on April 12, 2011, 10:32:16 PM
Even though he has "moved to the center"...he is still a Mormon...Now I had a nice Prof in college who was Mormon,...I liked him a lot!...a lot!...But he was still, to use a colloquialism..."Batshit crazy"...and every Mormon I have ever met is the same...Even more than Creationist Southern Baptists...and I was raised in the Southern Baptist Church.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 11:10:13 PM
Even though he has "moved to the center"...he is still a Mormon...Now I had a nice Prof in college who was Mormon,...I liked him a lot!...a lot!...But he was still, to use a colloquialism..."Batshit crazy"...and every Mormon I have ever met is the same...Even more than Creationist Southern Baptists...and I was raised in the Southern Baptist Church.

Of course he has "moved to center", or at least has appeared to do so...he wouldn't have a chance politically if he didn't.

My insurance guy is Mormon, and I like him a lot too. But outside of a professional relationship, I doubt we'd be hanging out. "Batshit crazy" ain't my thing...neither is mind control...and that's why every one of them you've met are all the same.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cableguy on April 12, 2011, 11:21:41 PM
i was about to answer him but you did good job ,,

reagan was far more than president ,,he was the nation of americnaa heart beat,, he was not only an actor which president should be able to do ofcourse but ! he was mainly the poster boy for americana ,,he was americana,,

he did too many things to mention and pelius mentioned few but you mesuere a president by the production of society during its time,,from all perspectives,,and i shall talk a bit about the artistic calture both music and movies,,


1. goonies
2 et
3stand by me
4terminator
5indiana    jones
6 platoon
7 the emoire stike back
8die hard
9poltergaist
10 dirty dancing
11back to the future
12goshst busters
13big ,,i cry to this day when i see the end of that movie
14arthur
15the road warriror/mad max

many many many more this is just slight little example


music...i cant even start naming it all just pull out of my ass few names

wham
george michael
michael jackson
cindy louper
bruce springsteen
dire striaghts
madona
foreigner
journey
rod stewart
elton john
string

many many many more


now....president that bring such a culture into existance is and should be known as the greatest president in the second half of the 20s century and he indeed is,,

he is among the 5 best presidents the united states of america has ever had,,

lincoln
washington
rosevelt ww2
reagan


thos are my top 4 presidents of the usa,,

reagan had compassion he let amnesty be reality for many many hard working people he put the pen down and did it HIS WAY ,,he made everyone a follower beacuse he had a poet spirit and a lion heart

he was the gentle warrior and thus i believe his face shall be on mount rashmor by the end of this first half century meaning by 2050 reagan will be on mount rashmor,,therre will be 5 faces there

wait
and
see!

gh15 approved

Reagan was the worst when it came to the environment...except for Bush. When they were fighting to create Redwood National Park in CA in 1968 to protect the last ramaining few percent of old growth redwoods, then governor Reagan said "you seen one redwood, you seen them all."

He certainly did a lot of good in other areas, but the environment wasn't one of them.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 02:38:50 AM
Hmm, I must have been reading the wrong 1st ammendment all these yrs.
I could have sworn I read the Estabishment Clause as part of the 1st ammendment, but hey, if the getbig constitutional law scholars say it isn't in there then I guess it isn't.  ;)
Once more, the getbig scholars have owned me.  :D

Retard, listen up. Did I ever question the establishment clause? I specifically referred to the separation of church and state that you claim is in the Constitution.

Our government forbids the establishment of any religion.

Our country was founded on Judeo/Christian ethics and is reflected throughout our government -- so help me God.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 02:40:55 AM
I don't vote for anyone with intolerant beliefs, that's for sure.

Really? Not even if a candidate is intolerant against radical Islamic fundamentalism? You don't believe that there are some things in life that should never be tolerated?
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 02:45:49 AM
Lol, this, like all empires, was founded on slavery and genocide.

Oh brother. So the pilgrims came to enslaved and kill? The only thing that distinguishes America vis-a-vis slavery is that we lost over a half a million Americans, more than any other war we've fought in combine -- and with just cannons and muskets, fighting to abolish it. In fact, on this very day the anniversary of the war between the states. 

You ingrate. Live somewhere else. 
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 02:50:49 AM
I seriously doubt Mitt Romney really cares about what the Mormon church thinks.
To get elected you have to have some religious faith in this country.
All the top caidates pull the personal religious faith card out thier behinds to convince the masses they are like everyone else.
Obama and McCain BOTH did that in 2008.
Obama is not a magic man nor was McCain a bad guy or some miracle worker.
You just hope they do a competent job and make the best judgemnets they can for our nation.
THAT is the best you are going to get.

Look folks, the only advice I can give is to vote for own economic interest.
The rich and powerful have always done that and always will.
Forget some wacky conpsiracy crap or emotional issues that have no actual substance on your daily life.
Just remmeber it is called "socialism" when the rich don't get it. ;)

How dare you presume to speak for Romney and his faith! You know nothing about him. No one who calls himself a Moron does it half ass. You can get away with that being a Christian but not a Mormon. Just like you don't call yourself a Hasidic Jew unless you mean it. No reason to.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 02:56:06 AM
My shit is straight. Of course everyone should have the freedom to practice (or not) whatever religion they choose. It's when an elected official's religious beliefs influence their decision making process, that's where I have a problem...

All people have a value system. Some, get it from their religion. Some just make it up as they go along. They just answer to themselves and whatever rules they feel they can live with. I don't trust human nature.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: roccoginge on April 13, 2011, 03:33:31 AM
Seriously, how can anyone who buys into the Mormon religious story be taken seriously.  What a joke.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 03:55:47 AM
Seriously, how can anyone who buys into the Mormon religious story be taken seriously.  What a joke.

I personally think the Mormon religion is just wacky. But I am far, far less concerned about what a person believes than how a person behaves. Mormons as a group are overwhelmingly some of the most decent people on this planet. If someone moves next door to me and I learn he is a Catholic. That really tells me nothing. And this is coming from a practicing Catholic. If I find out my new neighbor is a Mormon that tells me a lot. And in a good way. And notice I didn't have to say a "practicing" Mormon. You're either a Mormon or you're not. The notion of the common claim that one is a "non-practicing" Catholic has no meaning with the Mormons.
 
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 03:57:20 AM
Seriously, how can anyone who buys into the Mormon religious story be taken seriously.  What a joke.

Don't they get like 5 wifes and shit?

Sounds great to me!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Firemuscle on April 13, 2011, 03:58:33 AM
Don't they get like 5 wifes and shit?

Sounds great to me!

 Go out to the small towns in Utah. That shit is still going on. I've seen it with my own two eyes.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 04:01:39 AM
i was about to answer him but you did good job ,,

reagan was far more than president ,,he was the nation of americnaa heart beat,, he was not only an actor which president should be able to do ofcourse but ! he was mainly the poster boy for americana ,,he was americana,,

he did too many things to mention and pelius mentioned few but you mesuere a president by the production of society during its time,,from all perspectives,,and i shall talk a bit about the artistic calture both music and movies,,


1. goonies
2 et
3stand by me
4terminator
5indiana    jones
6 platoon
7 the emoire stike back
8die hard
9poltergaist
10 dirty dancing
11back to the future
12goshst busters
13big ,,i cry to this day when i see the end of that movie
14arthur
15the road warriror/mad max

many many many more this is just slight little example


music...i cant even start naming it all just pull out of my ass few names

wham
george michael
michael jackson
cindy louper
bruce springsteen
dire striaghts
madona
foreigner
journey
rod stewart
elton john
string

many many many more


now....president that bring such a culture into existance is and should be known as the greatest president in the second half of the 20s century and he indeed is,,

he is among the 5 best presidents the united states of america has ever had,,

lincoln
washington
rosevelt ww2
reagan


thos are my top 4 presidents of the usa,,

reagan had compassion he let amnesty be reality for many many hard working people he put the pen down and did it HIS WAY ,,he made everyone a follower beacuse he had a poet spirit and a lion heart

he was the gentle warrior and thus i believe his face shall be on mount rashmor by the end of this first half century meaning by 2050 reagan will be on mount rashmor,,therre will be 5 faces there

wait
and
see!

gh15 approved

There are some people who can go to their grave and meet their maker knowing that they have made other people's lives better. That because of them other people's lives have been blessed and enriched. Then there are the select few that went to their grave that have made the WORLD a better place. Reagan is one of them. The Soviet Union wasn't brought to their knees purely by chance.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 04:04:03 AM
Reagan was the worst when it came to the environment...except for Bush. When they were fighting to create Redwood National Park in CA in 1968 to protect the last ramaining few percent of old growth redwoods, then governor Reagan said "you seen one redwood, you seen them all."

He certainly did a lot of good in other areas, but the environment wasn't one of them.

Please name a specific example where Reagan or Bush destroyed the environment. A lot of these "National Parks" are just land grabs by the Federal government.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 04:11:26 AM
Go out to the small towns in Utah. That shit is still going on. I've seen it with my own two eyes.

Yes i know, actually you meet a lot of Mormons in Europe, they send their kids to Europe to make Propaganda for a while.

It's really a crazy religion, but hey, aren't all religions? At least the mormons don't blow themselves up in public busses if you disagree with them.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2011, 04:15:26 AM
I personally think the Mormon religion is just wacky. But I am far, far less concerned about what a person believes than how a person behaves. Mormons as a group are overwhelmingly some of the most decent people on this planet. If someone moves next door to me and I learn he is a Catholic. That really tells me nothing. And this is coming from a practicing Catholic. If I find out my new neighbor is a Mormon that tells me a lot. And in a good way. And notice I didn't have to say a "practicing" Mormon. You're either a Mormon or you're not. The notion of the common claim that one is a "non-practicing" Catholic has no meaning with the Mormons.
 

yes mormons in majority are good decent people,,him being a mormon shoudl mean nothing,,i jsut think myself that huckabee will do much better for the americano nation ,,,and trump...well sadly i think americanos are in such state of chaos that after obama being chosen ...anyone can ,,americano work on the brain via internet images....if you have as much money as trump yhou have a good chance to be presidento of americana ...sadly because he IS NOT qualified!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 04:17:24 AM
yes mormons in majority are good decent people,,him being a mormon shoudl mean nothing,,i jsut think myself that huckabee will do much better for the americano nation ,,,and trump...well sadly i think americanos are in such state of chaos that after obama being chosen ...anyone can ,,americano work on the brain via internet images....if you have as much money as trump yhou have a good chance to be presidento of americana ...sadly because he IS NOT qualified!

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Trump has money, that is enough qualification.

Also people know his face, now he only has to say no to abortion, yes to guns and no to gay marriage, plus some nice catch phrase like "Yes we can" and BOOM, he'll be president.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2011, 04:19:46 AM
Trump has money, that is enough qualification.

Also people know his face, now he only has to say no to abortion, yes to guns and no to gay marriage, plus some nice catch phrase like "Yes we can" and BOOM, he'll be president.

sadly this is correct,,he cant be worse than obama though,,he has some financial knowlege and he is old enough ,,he has good friends aroudn the world in politics,,and he is liked by the israelites lol ,,he shoudl do well but! it jsut show how dumbbb the americano society is

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Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Firemuscle on April 13, 2011, 04:21:04 AM
 We always elect Christian Presidents. Christians are fucking whacky as hell too.

 Might as well elect a Mormon. They are only slightly more deluded than Christians.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 04:22:28 AM
sadly this is correct,,he cant be worse than obama though,,he has some financial knowlege and he is old enough ,,he has good friends aroudn the world in politics,,and he is liked by the israelites lol ,,he shoudl do well but! it jsut show how dumbbb the americano society is

gh15 approved

I agree, he can't fuck up worse than Obama, and even if he fucks up as bad as Obama, it would be like a Obama second term, lol.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 04:25:50 AM
Trump has money, that is enough qualification.

Also people know his face, now he only has to say no to abortion, yes to guns and no to gay marriage, plus some nice catch phrase like "Yes we can" and BOOM, he'll be president.

And he's not going to be pushed around by other world leaders. He's a hard nose no nonsense guy when it comes to getting what he wants. But I don't think he has a chance. If he goes independent like he said he might if he loses the republican nomination then we can be sure he's doing it just for his own ego and muck up the whole process and split the republican vote and get Obama reelected.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 04:26:10 AM
We always elect Christian Presidents. Christians are fucking whacky as hell too.

 Might as well elect a Mormon. They are only slightly more deluded than Christians.

A hinduist president would be great.  ;D
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 04:27:10 AM
Don't they get like 5 wifes and shit?

Sounds great to me!

LOL! They had to give that up if they wanted to become a state (Utah).
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 04:28:53 AM
We always elect Christian Presidents. Christians are fucking whacky as hell too.

 Might as well elect a Mormon. They are only slightly more deluded than Christians.

Watch your tongue, white man.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 04:29:55 AM
LOL! They had to give that up if they wanted to become a state (Utah).

What?

What  is the merit of becoming a Mormon then if you can't have 5 wifes?

I thought it was all about wild orgies and sex parties all night! In the name of the Lord!!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: pellius on April 13, 2011, 04:31:06 AM
What?

What  is the merit of becoming a Mormon then if you can't have 5 wifes?

I thought it was all about wild orgies and sex parties all night! In the name of the Lord!!

Clean underwear and interaction with virtually no Blacks.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2011, 04:32:45 AM
tsake a look at the fuckin wwf ...the vince mcmown wwe or f or how ever you call it,,look at the audience,,this is the typical americano who go to vote and influence by the internet and in general is republican heart with liberal point of view on some subjects...

but my point is if you really take a look at the audience in the wwf....you start feeling sick to your stomack with the country who rule the world still called americana ,,the peopel are really really not up to par mentally ,,they are good heared ..some of them ..mainly their granparents but they are today bunch of straight out fucktards,,they really like from beer to beer and from sex to sex...they actualy really buy the wwf idea and the all thing is very weird and its going on for many years and they really really take it very seriolusly,, they just dont have enough things to do ,,the reason americna is still on top is because they are hard workers...they learn from young age that if they dont work they will be thrown by their parents to the street at age 18 even before and will have nothing ,,their parents dont give them dime usually ,,sometimes its diff but usualy no dime from parents and they put work in them from very young age the ones who have parents that is ,,usualy it is single moms and step dads,,,but yes they do work hard and thats why they became the leader of the free world ,,the money who came from them working hard all through the many many years that went into the goverment and the story go on ,,,50 states etc ....i like americana very much but the peopel in it now days are straight out in majority DISGUSTING,,some are still decent but it is down to maybe 20-30 % and 70% wackos comparing to back in the 80s where 80% of americano society was sane and realy good intelgent people thast could think for themselves,, the girls of thst nation ruined a lot of the reputation that nation had,,the new generation girls ages 30 aND UNDER....

i said to someone few months ago that i actually had sex with 13 girls in my life and with no condom ,, i said im at high risk for shit  lol you know what he told me? i expected him to say yes man etc etc,,,he answered me this he rolled his eyes lol

i had sex with 13 girls last 2 months ....and he is not lieing lol  part of generation nothingess 25 year old fella ,,

so there you have it ....im worried about having sex with 13 girl with no condom and he said he had sex with 60 girls already

show you exactly what this generaiton is lol

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 04:36:13 AM
tsake a look at the fuckin wwf ...the vince mcmown wwe or f or how ever you call it,,look at the audience,,this is the typical americano who go to vote and influence by the internet and in general is republican heart with liberal point of view on some subjects...

but my point is if you really take a look at the audience in the wwf....you start feeling sick to your stomack with the country who rule the world still called americana ,,the peopel are really really not up to par mentally ,,they are good heared ..some of them ..mainly their granparents but they are today bunch of straight out fucktards,,they really like from beer to beer and from sex to sex...they actualy really buy the wwf idea and the all thing is very weird and its going on for many years and they really really take it very seriolusly,, they just dont have enough things to do ,,the reason americna is still on top is because they are hard workers...they learn from young age that if they dont work they will be thrown by their parents to the street at age 18 even before and will have nothing ,,their parents dont give them dime usually ,,sometimes its diff but usualy no dime from parents and they put work in them from very young age the ones who have parents that is ,,usualy it is single moms and step dads,,,but yes they do work hard and thats why they became the leader of the free world ,,the money who came from them working hard all through the many many years that went into the goverment and the story go on ,,,50 states etc ....i like americana very much but the peopel in it now days are straight out in majority DISGUSTING,,some are still decent but it is down to maybe 20-30 % and 70% wackos comparing to back in the 80s where 80% of americano society was sane and realy good intelgent people thast could think for themselves,, the girls of thst nation ruined a lot of the reputation that nation had,,the new generation girls ages 30 aND UNDER....

i said to someone few months ago that i actually had sex with 13 girls in my life and with no condom ,, i said im at high risk for shit  lol you know what he told me? i expected him to say yes man etc etc,,,he answered me this he rolled his eyes lol

i had sex with 13 girls last 2 months ....and he is not lieing lol  part of generation nothingess 25 year old fella ,,

so there you have it ....im worried about having sex with 13 girl with no condom and he said he had sex with 60 girls already

show you exactly what this generaiton is lol

gh15 approved
:o :o :o :o

100 fucking % spot on.  :o :o :o :o great post.


Clean underwear and interaction with virtually no Blacks.

Mmmm, sounds good.

Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 13, 2011, 06:19:11 AM
Sorry to bust your dream about politics, guess you're as delusional about politics as you are about bodybuilding, drug use and your own heterosexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician

hth

I guess I am way out of touch with the avg working man or woman in the USA then?
Hmmm, in your world Obama really didn't get elected and steroids are legal and popular with most folks, etc.

Ok seriously, you seem like smart guy and I am just bustin your balls.

I was a lot more idealistic in my politics and then got older and realized how everyone makes deals to cover their own ass.
I just vote my own interest as best I can. I could give a rats ass about social issues.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 13, 2011, 06:21:07 AM
Trump has money, that is enough qualification.

Also people know his face, now he only has to say no to abortion, yes to guns and no to gay marriage, plus some nice catch phrase like "Yes we can" and BOOM, he'll be president.
Pretty much sums up how the game is really played if you want to republican nomination.
Good post!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 13, 2011, 06:22:16 AM
Retard, listen up. Did I ever question the establishment clause? I specifically referred to the separation of church and state that you claim is in the Constitution.

Our government forbids the establishment of any religion.

Our country was founded on Judeo/Christian ethics and is reflected throughout our government -- so help me God.
Relax I am just bustin your balls :D
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: DK II on April 13, 2011, 06:32:14 AM
I guess I am way out of touch with the avg working man or woman in the USA then?
Hmmm, in your world Obama really didn't get elected and steroids are legal and popular with most folks, etc.

Ok seriously, you seem like smart guy and I am just bustin your balls.

I was a lot more idealistic in my politics and then got older and realized how everyone makes deals to cover their own ass.
I just vote my own interest as best I can. I could give a rats ass about social issues.

No, you ARE the avg working man and have his political knowledge, Howie.

And like EVERY average working man, you think you know more about politics than anyone else. THAT is the problem here.

Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 13, 2011, 07:47:06 AM
No, you ARE the avg working man and have his political knowledge, Howie.

And like EVERY average working man, you think you know more about politics than anyone else. THAT is the problem here.



LOL, obviously I don't know everything about politics. I am a "reg Joe -blowhard" just giving my cents.
I do my best to stay informed and objective. That is all any of us can do. Plus, I vote in every election.
If I really thought I knew everything about politics I would change my name to Glenn Beck and write crazy conspiracy stuff on a blackboard ;D
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 13, 2011, 07:52:32 AM
Please name a specific example where Reagan or Bush destroyed the environment. A lot of these "National Parks" are just land grabs by the Federal government.
This is where the hard liberal left loses me.
While Bush or Reagam were not big cheerleaders for enviromental issues, they didn't ruin the enviroment either.
C'mon, they didn't dump grabage on people's front yards when they were President.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 13, 2011, 07:54:21 AM
Seriously, how can anyone who buys into the Mormon religious story be taken seriously.  What a joke.
Hmm about the crazy idea that Jesus was born from a virgin mom and was said to have come back from the dead.
THAT is a pretty tall tale in my book
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Benny B on April 13, 2011, 07:58:21 AM
 ;)

(http://doninmass.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/03-01romneycare-thumb-609x478-34326.gif?w=630)
(http://lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/obamacare-vs-romneycare1.jpg)

(http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/romneyfaces.gif)
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Firemuscle on April 13, 2011, 08:01:46 AM
A hinduist president would be great.  ;D

 Actually that is EXACTLY what we need right now.

 Too bad the Hindus don't have too much power in US politics.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2011, 08:08:38 AM
hahahha!!!

(http://lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/obamacare-vs-romneycare1.jpg)


Still, he will honor the wishes of the bulk of the repub congress, and deliver something along the lines of traditional republican governing.  Won't be tea party, but won't be lib spending either.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 13, 2011, 08:57:06 AM
Look folks everyone here on GET BIG is going to get older and need good, affordable health care when they get older.
I am 52 now and looked at this issue  very differently when I was single in my 20's.

While I don't agree with everything in the democratic party, they are a much better fit for my needs and ideals .
As a middle class working man, I don't think that repubican plan(s) is going to protect my teacher pension or keep my medicare in place when I retire in a few years.

Once again, I am not some political idealist and just vote for what I think is in the best interest of the working middle class.
I will leave the political theory and debate on social issue to others.
Politics isn't some game where you cheer for your red team to beat the blue team or vice versa.
Unless I want to move to another country, I hope EVERY leader in both parties is competent and does a great job.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GigantorX on April 13, 2011, 09:04:23 AM
Look folks everyone here on GET BIG is going to get older and need good, affordable health care when they get older.
I am 52 now and looked at this issue  very differently when I was single in my 20's.

While I don't agree with everything in the democratic party, they are a much better fit for my needs and ideals .
As a middle class working man, I don't think that repubican plan(s) is going to protect my teacher pension or keep my medicare in place when I retire in a few years.

Once again, I am not some political idealist and just vote for what I think is in the best interest of the working middle class.
I will leave the political theory and debate on social issue to others.
Politics isn't some game where you cheer for your red team to beat the blue team or vice versa.
Unless I want to move to another country, I hope EVERY leader in both parties is competent and does a great job.

I like your style and I see your point. But really, neither party has shown it stands with the middle class.

Those pensions/health care you will rely on? Well, the politicians (that were bought with Union dues) that were supposed to be looking out for the taxpayers ended up giving organized labor one fucking sweet ass deal. And guess what, those same politicians that were bought by union dues and union influence have spend a shit load of the pension funds. They also "negotiated" deals that weren't sustainable so they could curry organized labors favor and stay in power.

Funny how that works.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2011, 09:04:32 AM
As a middle class working man, I don't think that repubican plan(s) is going to protect my teacher pension or keep my medicare in place when I retire in a few years.

hard to argue that
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2011, 09:06:03 AM
Look folks everyone here on GET BIG is going to get older and need good, affordable health care when they get older.
I am 52 now and looked at this issue  very differently when I was single in my 20's.

While I don't agree with everything in the democratic party, they are a much better fit for my needs and ideals .
As a middle class working man, I don't think that repubican plan(s) is going to protect my teacher pension or keep my medicare in place when I retire in a few years.

Once again, I am not some political idealist and just vote for what I think is in the best interest of the working middle class.
I will leave the political theory and debate on social issue to others.
Politics isn't some game where you cheer for your red team to beat the blue team or vice versa.
Unless I want to move to another country, I hope EVERY leader in both parties is competent and does a great job.


GMAFB - your pension is nothing but a madoff scheme financed by the rest of the idiots paying taxes.   Go vote for obama you fool.  When the system collapses like Madoffs' did dont look to the rest of us to pick up the pieces, you will find mostly  unsympathetic people laughing at you for buying into the promises of a ponzi scheme like govt pensions are.        
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GigantorX on April 13, 2011, 09:12:35 AM
hard to argue that

The Democratic "plan" isn't and didn't protect the pensions either.....THEY SPENT ALL THE MONEY.

In Illinois, which has been Blue forever has a pension system for state, local, police etc that his about 50% funded....where did the other half go? The idiots that were put in power with organized labors help (to a large degree, esp. Cook county and Chicago) spent all of it!


DUH.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Benny B on April 13, 2011, 09:21:06 AM
Look folks everyone here on GET BIG is going to get older and need good, affordable health care when they get older.
I am 52 now and looked at this issue  very differently when I was single in my 20's.

While I don't agree with everything in the democratic party, they are a much better fit for my needs and ideals .
As a middle class working man, I don't think that repubican plan(s) is going to protect my teacher pension or keep my medicare in place when I retire in a few years.

Once again, I am not some political idealist and just vote for what I think is in the best interest of the working middle class.
I will leave the political theory and debate on social issue to others.
Politics isn't some game where you cheer for your red team to beat the blue team or vice versa.
Unless I want to move to another country, I hope EVERY leader in both parties is competent and does a great job.

The republican plan is to completely DESTROY your teacher pension plan, and give you a $15K "coupon" for you to use in replace of Medicare. Once that $15k is spent (likely in ONE YEAR of assisted living, or in the first six months of a major health issue), you're on your own. If you don't have the savings, tough shit. Eat cat food and move into a cardboard box under your local bridge.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2011, 09:24:16 AM
Public pensions  = bernie madoff.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 14, 2011, 03:44:40 PM

GMAFB - your pension is nothing but a madoff scheme financed by the rest of the idiots paying taxes.   Go vote for obama you fool.  When the system collapses like Madoffs' did dont look to the rest of us to pick up the pieces, you will find mostly  unsympathetic people laughing at you for buying into the promises of a ponzi scheme like govt pensions are.        
Really? I am no expert but I tend to keep up with the markets and world events. Back in the spring of 2007, I moved my 403B TIAA Cref fund completely into the T-Bonds ( and out of stocks). I kept making 5-6% on my money and my supplemental reriement fund is doing fine.

Imagine what would have happened to the SSN fund for seniors if they had privatized it after the crash of 2008?

My father retired with a combined Navy and cicvil service pension and was fine  until he died.
his dad ( my grandad) also had a similar civil service pension from working 40 yrs on a naval shipyard.
Pensions and unions have built the most security for the working man in the USA!
Many sate bugdets were hurt by investing with the now infamous mortgage backed credit default swaps and the big banks, that went belly up.
It was the private sector schmucks from the investment banks that came hat in hand to the US Gov Treasury to bail them out!
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2011, 03:58:54 PM
Really? I am no expert but I tend to keep up with the markets and world events. Back in the spring of 2007, I moved my 403B TIAA Cref fund completely into the T-Bonds ( and out of stocks). I kept making 5-6% on my money and my supplemental reriement fund is doing fine.

Imagine what would have happened to the SSN fund for seniors if they had privatized it after the crash of 2008?

My father retired with a combined Navy and cicvil service pension and was fine  until he died.
his dad ( my grandad) also had a similar civil service pension from working 40 yrs on a naval shipyard.
Pensions and unions have built the most security for the working man in the USA!
Many sate bugdets were hurt by investing with the now infamous mortgage backed credit default swaps and the big banks, that went belly up.
It was the private sector schmucks from the investment banks that came hat in hand to the US Gov Treasury to bail them out!
Just cash out and go to the cave Howard = problem solved.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: obtuse_waiter on April 15, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
romney is awesome capitalist I dont know why not rpesident already

I will vote for
1 the donald
2 mitt
3 ron paul
4 bachman
5 newt
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Howard on April 15, 2011, 01:07:59 PM
Just cash out and go to the cave Howard = problem solved.
THat is the new house republican  budget plan for most middle class stiffs like me.
Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2011, 01:13:06 PM
THat is the new house republican  budget plan for most middle class stiffs like me.

www.usdebtclock.org


Title: Re: Romney steps toward White House bid!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2011, 02:28:10 PM
THat is the new house republican  budget plan for most middle class stiffs like me.
You still in the cave Howard?