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Title: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Fury on April 22, 2011, 02:14:14 PM
Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama

The New York Times is burrying the lead on their latest poll. The numbers are just brutal for the White House:

70% of Americans feel things in this country are seriously off on the wrong track. That is the highest number since the 79% registered in 1/11/09 when President Bush was still in office.

80% rate the national economy as bad (44% fairly/36% very). Only 19% rate it as good (2% very/17% fairly).

39% think the economy is getting worse, only 23% say it is getting better. Last month those numbers were even at 26. In February they were flipped at 32% better, 22% worse.

57% disapprove of Obama’s handling of the economy. That is the highest disapproval measured by the CBS/NYT poll. His 38% approval is matched only once by a pre-Democractic election wipe out October poll.

59% disapprove of Obama’s handling of the federal budget. Also the highest CBS/NYT has ever measured that number.

Obama’s Libya approval numbers have completely flipped from 50/29 approve in March to 45/39 disapprove today.

46% disapprove of the way Obama is handling foreign policy. That is the highest number ever for Obama in a CBS/NYT poll. His 39% approval on FP is also his lowest score ever.

55% tell NYT/CBS they would rather have a smaller government providing fewer services. Only 33% want a bigger government with more services.

When asked “Do you think Barack Obama has the same priorities for the country as you have, or doesn’t he?” 53% said no and 43% said yes. When Obama was inaugurated those numbers were 65% and 28% no.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/brutal-nytcbs-poll-obama?utm_source=feedburner+BeltwayConfidential&utm_medium=feed+Beltway+Confidential&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BeltwayConfidential+%28Beltway+Confidential%29feed&utm_content=feed&utm_term=feed#ixzz1KHxwieqc

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/22/us/22poll.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper



Damn. Where are the far-leftists to thumb their noses at the majority of Americans while telling them they know what's good for everyone else?
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2011, 04:36:55 PM
We definitely have a different mood in the country than the period during the 2008 campaign. 

The polls are pretty consistent:

CNN Poll of Polls: President's approval rating declining
By: CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

Washington (CNN) – President Barack Obama's job approval rating among Americans is edging down, according to an average of the most recent national polls.

A CNN Poll of Polls compiled and released Friday indicates that 45 percent of the public say they approve of the job the president's doing in the White House, with 48 percent saying they disapprove of how Obama's handling his duties.

This latest edition of the CNN Poll of Polls is an average of three national surveys conducted within the past week: ABC/Washington Post (April 14-17), CBS/New York Times (April 15-20) and the Gallup Tracking Poll (April 18-20). The CNN Poll of Polls does not have a sampling error.

The 45 percent approval rating is down from a 52 percent approval rating in a CNN Poll of Polls from mid-January, which was the high point so far this year for the president's approval numbers.

The new approval rating figures come as four national polls conducted this month indicate that pessimism on the direction the country's headed is on the rise. Survey's from CBS/New York Times, McClatchy/Marist, Reuters/Ipsos, and NBC Wall Street Journal all indicate that the percentage of Americans who think the country's headed in the wrong direction is on the rise, hitting 70 percent in the CBS/New York Times poll.

All these surveys come as gas prices are soaring, and as partisan battles over the budget and the nation's massive deficit are raging.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/22/cnn-poll-of-polls-presidents-approval-rating-declining/#more-156234
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on April 22, 2011, 04:43:29 PM
We definitely have a different mood in the country than the period during the 2008 campaign. 

True.  Same with 2010.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 22, 2011, 04:59:53 PM
People are sick the speeches, the hypocrisy, the lies, the partisan bullshit, etc.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: MM2K on April 22, 2011, 05:07:52 PM
We definitely have a different mood in the country than the period during the 2008 campaign. 

The polls are pretty consistent:

CNN Poll of Polls: President's approval rating declining
By: CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

Washington (CNN) – President Barack Obama's job approval rating among Americans is edging down, according to an average of the most recent national polls.

A CNN Poll of Polls compiled and released Friday indicates that 45 percent of the public say they approve of the job the president's doing in the White House, with 48 percent saying they disapprove of how Obama's handling his duties.

This latest edition of the CNN Poll of Polls is an average of three national surveys conducted within the past week: ABC/Washington Post (April 14-17), CBS/New York Times (April 15-20) and the Gallup Tracking Poll (April 18-20). The CNN Poll of Polls does not have a sampling error.

The 45 percent approval rating is down from a 52 percent approval rating in a CNN Poll of Polls from mid-January, which was the high point so far this year for the president's approval numbers.

The new approval rating figures come as four national polls conducted this month indicate that pessimism on the direction the country's headed is on the rise. Survey's from CBS/New York Times, McClatchy/Marist, Reuters/Ipsos, and NBC Wall Street Journal all indicate that the percentage of Americans who think the country's headed in the wrong direction is on the rise, hitting 70 percent in the CBS/New York Times poll.

All these surveys come as gas prices are soaring, and as partisan battles over the budget and the nation's massive deficit are raging.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/22/cnn-poll-of-polls-presidents-approval-rating-declining/#more-156234

We will also be guaranteed a far better Republican Preisential Candidate. Huntsman, Romney, and Palenty are the likely winners. All 3 would suffieceintly pump up the conservative base without alienating the moderates. No president has been reelected into office with a low 40s approval rating, and no President has been reelected with such a high unemployment rate. I dont care what people say. Obama is dead in 2012.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 22, 2011, 05:14:26 PM
The only one I detest is hucklebee.

I will vote for romeny or huntsman of course. 

Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2011, 05:17:18 PM
We will also be guaranteed a far better Republican Preisential Candidate. Huntsman, Romney, and Palenty are the likely winners. All 3 would suffieceintly pump up the conservative base without alienating the moderates. No president has been reelected into office with a low 40s approval rating, and no President has been reelected with such a high unemployment rate. I dont care what people say. Obama is dead in 2012.

I agree with most of this.  It's a little early to predict his absolute demise, but I do think it will take either a miraculous economic recovery or some of kind of terrorist attack to keep him in office. 
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 22, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
The economy is not going to get better.  Its getting worse.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Dos Equis on April 22, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
The economy is not going to get better.  Its getting worse.

Well it's certainly not getting better.  He will not be able to blame Bush this time around.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 22, 2011, 05:33:39 PM
This is all on obama and the treasonous rats.  I called this from day one.   

Fuck obama ,  piss be upon him forever.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 24, 2011, 11:19:50 AM
Who are the 45% still supporting him?  Are they living under a rock or something?  Oh that's right, it's probablythe 45% of people in this country that receive some sort of government handout.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 24, 2011, 11:21:43 AM
Piss on Obama, but also piss on Bush, he was just as bad for this country and Obama is just continuing the big government agenda to the tenth power simply because he can get away with a lot more than Bush could.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 24, 2011, 11:26:20 AM
where is blacken and blanco in this thread?  you'd think they would have pockets full of explanations by now.  ;D
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 24, 2011, 11:32:55 AM
The only one I detest is hucklebee.

I will vote for romeny or huntsman of course. 



Romney?  I have to respectfully disagree and I fail understand the continuing obsession conservatives have with this guy.  He is a big government establishment candidate.  Nothing would change with Romney.

Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 24, 2011, 11:36:25 AM




This guy is a lifetime politician, lying scumbag type.  He is not for the American people, only for himself and big government.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 24, 2011, 11:37:29 AM
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 12:07:20 PM
Mitt is a cheater - he got earpiece info during the debates, remember?  ;)

And he's a lot of a liberal.  This far-right thing is all new for the 2012 race.

Still, IMO he will stop the damage that obama is inflicting.  I'd like to see the dems keep the senate and the repubs barely keep the house, and mittens win.  That will stop most change in DC, but won't give the repubs a rubber stamp to hand over the farm to corporations.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 24, 2011, 12:11:47 PM
Mitt is a cheater - he got earpiece info during the debates, remember?  ;)

And he's a lot of a liberal.  This far-right thing is all new for the 2012 race.

Still, IMO he will stop the damage that obama is inflicting.  I'd like to see the dems keep the senate and the repubs barely keep the house, and mittens win.  That will stop most change in DC, but won't give the repubs a rubber stamp to hand over the farm to corporations.

i don't know about this.  i could see romney becoming another mccain.  sure, he's better than what we got but he might be two-faced on enough issues to ruin his chances and ensure another four years of failure.  we need a better, more consistent candidate than him.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2011, 12:11:49 PM
Like bama has done w ge and gs? 
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 01:32:45 PM
i don't know about this.  i could see romney becoming another mccain.  sure, he's better than what we got but he might be two-faced on enough issues to ruin his chances and ensure another four years of failure.  we need a better, more consistent candidate than him.

I think romney will be 50% of obama.  But it beats 100% of obama.

I'd prefer a ron paul get in there - but I think republican primary voters are more swayed by Sean hannity's opinion by than what the candidates actually say  ;)
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 24, 2011, 04:15:51 PM
I think romney will be 50% of obama.  But it beats 100% of obama.

I'd prefer a ron paul get in there - but I think republican primary voters are more swayed by Sean hannity's opinion by than what the candidates actually say  ;)

that's because hannity, levin, limbaugh, savage, boortz, etc. think more along the lines of most informed conservatives than nutty libertarians, even if what most of us really are is closer to libertarian principles.  ron paul marginalizes himself by being nutty and the people who support him.  romney and mccain marginalize themselves by being pathetic. but youre right about one thing.. ANYONE would be better than a hard line leftist like obongo.  i'd be happy with romney or RP at this point compared to what we're getting.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 04:21:47 PM
that's because hannity, levin, limbaugh, savage, boortz, etc. think more along the lines of most informed conservatives than nutty libertarians, even if what most of us really are is closer to libertarian principles.  ron paul marginalizes himself by being nutty and the people who support him.  romney and mccain marginalize themselves by being pathetic. but youre right about one thing.. ANYONE would be better than a hard line leftist like obongo.  i'd be happy with romney or RP at this point compared to what we're getting.

Hannity sold us mccain and romney as our best bets in 2012. 

i think ron paul would have defeated obama.  really.  i know obama mania was all big... but i saw ron paul shirts on people long before the primaries.  he won all those online polls for a reason, as much as fox liked to downplay it. 
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 24, 2011, 04:27:50 PM
Hannity sold us mccain and romney as our best bets in 2012. 

i think ron paul would have defeated obama.  really.  i know obama mania was all big... but i saw ron paul shirts on people long before the primaries.  he won all those online polls for a reason, as much as fox liked to downplay it. 

hannity will throw his support behind anyone who wins the primary.  a reasonable strategy considering his only goal is to defeat the left.  even he talks quite often about mccain not being very good at all.  he was saying this even before he won the primary as well but we have to work with what the outcomes are.

and more importantly, RP also won online polls with all the pot smoking CTers who don't vote.  not much help getting behind a candidate who only sucks votes away from the front runner regardless of how crappy that front runner may be.  RP fans are notorious for this shit.  cant spare an hour to go vote because 'voting doesn't change anything' but they can drive hours and spend all day going to a protest.  it's like a liberal libertarian.  what a waste.   
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on April 24, 2011, 05:31:44 PM
RPaul raised a shitload of $ last time
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: MM2K on April 24, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
Piss on Obama, but also piss on Bush, he was just as bad for this country and Obama is just continuing the big government agenda to the tenth power simply because he can get away with a lot more than Bush could.

Im sorry, but I cant let that go. What you say is NOT TRUE. Part of the reason we are in this mess is because people thought Bush was a lot worse than he really was. His spending was certainly not ideal but it was MANAGABLE. When you consider the War on Terror he will probably go down as an above average president. He certainly was better than his dad in the domestic arena. Today's deficits have abosulutely NOTHING to do with Bush. The crashing of the stock market was not his fault either, atleast not anymore his fault than everyone in the Democrat Party. You might as well have blamed Clinton for the DotCom bust.

And Im getting sick and tired of people pissing on the Republican Candidates. People need to stop looking for the next Ronald Reagan and stop dismissing a candidate just becuase he does one liberal thing you dont like. Remmber that REAGAN granted amnesty to illegals. The likely candidtate will be either Romney, Pawlenty, or Huntsman. Either one of those guys would be the best Candidate we have had since Ronald Reagan. Picking Obama over any one of those guys would be like picking Barabas over Jesus. Conservatives need to stop kicking themselves in the ass. We have good candidates here.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 24, 2011, 08:42:32 PM
Im sorry, but I cant let that go. What you say is NOT TRUE. Part of the reason we are in this mess is because people thought Bush was a lot worse than he really was. His spending was certainly not ideal but it was MANAGABLE. When you consider the War on Terror he will probably go down as an above average president. He certainly was better than his dad in the domestic arena. Today's deficits have abosulutely NOTHING to do with Bush. The crashing of the stock market was not his fault either, atleast not anymore his fault than everyone in the Democrat Party. You might as well have blamed Clinton for the DotCom bust.

And Im getting sick and tired of people pissing on the Republican Candidates. People need to stop looking for the next Ronald Reagan and stop dismissing a candidate just becuase he does one liberal thing you dont like. Remmber that REAGAN granted amnesty to illegals. The likely candidtate will be either Romney, Pawlenty, or Huntsman. Either one of those guys would be the best Candidate we have had since Ronald Reagan. Picking Obama over any one of those guys would be like picking Barabas over Jesus. Conservatives need to stop kicking themselves in the ass. We have good candidates here.

^this
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 25, 2011, 10:01:29 AM
Those Confident That America’s Best Days Lie Ahead Down to 31% (lowest level ever)
Rasmussen Reports ^ | April 25, 2011 | by Scott Rasmussen




~ EXCERPT ~

Voter confidence that the nation’s best days are still to come has fallen to its lowest level ever.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows that just 31% believe America’s best days are in the future. That’s down three points from last month and is the lowest result found in polling since late 2006.

Fifty-three percent (53%) believe America’s best days are in the past, also the highest measurement in over four years. Sixteen percent (16%) are undecided.

Separate polling finds that only 22% of Likely Voters believe the United States is now heading in the right direction. That ties the lowest level found during Barack Obama’s presidency.


(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 25, 2011, 03:54:29 PM
^this

Yet another conservative trapped in the false left/right paradigm.  Surely by now you realize there is no real difference whether we get a Repub or democrat in office.  They are both the parties of big government.  Romney is clearly establishment nothing will change with him.  Only a true Tea Party/libertarian Candidate would be able to go against the system like an Alan West, Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, maybe even Bachmann.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 25, 2011, 03:55:54 PM
Yet another conservative trapped in the false left/right paradigm.  Surely by now you realize there is no real difference whether we get a Repub or democrat in office.  They are both the parties of big government.  Romney is clearly establishment nothing will change with him.  Only a true Tea Party/libertarian Candidate would be able to go against the system like an Alan West, Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, maybe even Bachmann.

Gary johnson was on the radio yesterday.   He sounded great.   
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: headhuntersix on April 25, 2011, 03:57:44 PM
We only need a solid candidate.....nothing super. Barry will provide all the rest.  :D
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Freeborn126 on April 25, 2011, 04:00:22 PM
Gary johnson was on the radio yesterday.   He sounded great.   

Yeah, he's having trouble getting his name out there though, not many people have ever heard of him.  Dude is a triathelete and has climbed Mt. Everest.  That's the kind of person we need as a President.  Only thing about him is his marriage, he is divorced now so that could hurt him.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on April 25, 2011, 05:43:00 PM
We only need a solid candidate.....nothing super. Barry will provide all the rest.  :D

some repubs want a reality tv star with a chekered history of 3 wives, selling hotel space to terrorists, and liberal donations.
Title: Re: Brutal NYT/CBS Poll for Obama
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on April 25, 2011, 07:03:51 PM
Yet another conservative trapped in the false left/right paradigm.  Surely by now you realize there is no real difference whether we get a Repub or democrat in office.  They are both the parties of big government.  Romney is clearly establishment nothing will change with him.  Only a true Tea Party/libertarian Candidate would be able to go against the system like an Alan West, Herman Cain, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, maybe even Bachmann.


wrong.  there are differences and lots of them.  all that matters is how they'll vote on the record.  a good repub and tea party/libertarian candidate SHOULD be one in the same.  ron paul is an extremist and a nut but right on many issues.  the rest on that list along with christie, ryan, jindal, should be the future of the GOP with bachmann at the top.