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Ive noticed that when bush was president that 90% of the threads started were from pissed off dems like me. Now that a dem is president the repubs start the majority of threads.
So really this is just a sounding board for the opposite party to vent on. Which is why we dont have to many dems posting here much. It seems that strawman has the energy to argue his points here and does so in a dominating way mostly. Id like to help but will have to wait for some time.
I know your all broken up about it. ;D
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Carter's fault.
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Ive noticed that when bush was president that 90% of the threads started were from pissed off dems like me. Now that a dem is president the repubs start the majority of threads.
So really this is just a sounding board for the opposite party to vent on. Which is why we dont have to many dems posting here much. It seems that strawman has the energy to argue his points here and does so in a dominating way mostly. Id like to help but will have to wait for some time.
I know your all broken up about it. ;D
The board is the epitome of the illusion of the left/right paradigm. (no difference at all).
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The board is the epitome of the illusion of the left/right paradigm. (no difference at all).
i really can't stand people who think like this. just like every other CTer, etc. the obviousness and depth of the differences and what they mean are proven daily and yet there are still idiots who say it means nothing.
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Bushs second term was horrible. But with obama - really _ what is there to argue about? The guy is a friggin disaster and doubled down on the worst of bush and then doubled that.
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It seems that strawman has the energy to argue his points here and does so in a dominating way mostly.
Are you talking about the same Straw Man that thinks Obama didn't spend enough on the stimulus and thinks that he isn't spending enough right now? Even as S&P downgrades this country? ::)
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Bushs second term was horrible. But with obama - really _ what is there to argue about? The guy is a friggin disaster and doubled down on the worst of bush and then doubled that.
Im pissed that i dont have healthcare. Im pissed that the repubs made up bullshit like death panels. Im not happy with geithner handing all the banks money without a cap on bonuses and made 2010 a very lucrative year for wallstreet. Im pissed that the oil industry recieves billions in subsidies while we lose teachers and city worker jobs of the middleclass.
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Im pissed that i dont have healthcare. Im pissed that the repubs made up bullshit like death panels. Im not happy with geithner handing all the banks money without a cap on bonuses and made 2010 a very lucrative year for wallstreet. Im pissed that the oil industry recieves billions in subsidies while we lose teachers and city worker jobs of the middleclass.
so go fucking buy it.. why is this everyone else's responsibility? fucking leech.
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Are you talking about the same Straw Man that thinks Obama didn't spend enough on the stimulus and thinks that he isn't spending enough right now? Even as S&P downgrades this country? ::)
The dollar was collapsing from the fallout of bubbles created before obama. And the need to spend money is what kept us from collapsing all world markets at the time.
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so go fucking buy it.. why is this everyone else's responsibility? fucking leech.
I was going to buy it you fuckhead. It wasnt a free proposal everyone would pay you fucking orangatan.
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i really can't stand people who think like this. just like every other CTer, etc. the obviousness and depth of the differences and what they mean are proven daily and yet there are still idiots who say it means nothing.
Differant paths to the same outcome you retard. The UN has a plan.
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I was going to buy it you fuckhead. It wasnt a free proposal everyone would pay you fucking orangatan.
everyone should pay for thier own, period. obamacare in full blast would be a tragedy heaped on americans for the sake of the idiots who don't know how to manage their personal affairs.
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Differant paths to the same outcome you retard. The UN has a plan.
a plan we don't have to accept or implement. eff this CT nonsense. the UN has an agenda like everyone does. no secret there.
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The board is the epitome of the illusion of the left/right paradigm. (no difference at all).
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Pure speculation at best and the dollar is at a 43 year low now - after all this bullshit by geither obama bernake.
Next.
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everyone should pay for thier own, period. obamacare in full blast would be a tragedy heaped on americans for the sake of the idiots who don't know how to manage their personal affairs.
Oh yeah we all have $500-$600 a month for a health plan. The free market is corrupt and holds people prisoner by gouging. Some things need regulating or everything trickles up......have you noticed that....it doesnt trickle down its pouring up!!!!!!
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Oh yeah we all have $500-$600 a month for a health plan. The free market is corrupt and holds people prisoner by gouging. Some things need regulating or everything trickles up......have you noticed that....it doesnt trickle down its pouring up!!!!!!
so open up the market and stop allowing dems to run rampant with regs and destroy competition.
i pay $250 a month for myself and my 3 month old.. pretty good insurance too and i only make about 40k/year while im in school. like i said, it's not the taxpayers responsibility to pay for everyone else's HC. guess who everyone who thinks otherwise voted for?
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so open up the market and stop allowing dems to run rampant with regs and destroy competition.
i pay $250 a month for myself and my 3 month old.. pretty good insurance too and i only make about 40k/year while im in school. like i said, it's not the taxpayers responsibility to pay for everyone else's HC. guess who everyone who thinks otherwise voted for?
The market is open. It wouldnt matter much if it went over state lines cuz its still a monopoly where banks and isurance companies own eachother and they are for profit companies to their shareholders. You have a good price on care but ill bet theres some problems in your policy.
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The market is open. It wouldnt matter much if it went over state lines cuz its still a monopoly where banks and isurance companies own eachother and they are for profit companies to their shareholders. You have a good price on care but ill bet theres some problems in your policy.
and the gov't would solve all of them right?
lol.. people like you deserve to have your freedoms taken away just so you could appreciate the idea behind a constitution, limited gov't, and privacy and property rights.
it's economics 101.. between gov't regulation and free market economics only one of those is going to provide better care for less money.
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and the gov't would solve all of them right?
lol.. people like you deserve to have your freedoms taken away just so you could appreciate the idea behind a constitution, limited gov't, and privacy and property rights.
it's economics 101.. between gov't regulation and free market economics only one of those is going to provide better care for less money.
It takes a mixture of both so people like you dont get all rednecky screwin deer in public just "Cuz you can"
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It takes a mixture of both so people like you dont get all rednecky screwin deer in public just "Cuz you can"
morons on the left will always think this way about the right, and it being so far from reality will always hold you back. your loss, hippie.
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and the gov't would solve all of them right?
lol.. people like you deserve to have your freedoms taken away just so you could appreciate the idea behind a constitution, limited gov't, and privacy and property rights.
it's economics 101.. between gov't regulation and free market economics only one of those is going to provide better care for less money.
This is typical of a sarah palin comment wher she boils it down to an absolute one or the other. Realize that it take a mix of free market and regulation to get the ideal. I dont know anyone that wants a communistic system...this is where rush limbaugh enters your tiny little mind to bail you out of intelligence. Its not all or one but a mix....do you see....... or do you want your neighbor screwin deer downtown cuz its his right. Do you see any balance at all?
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This is typical of a sarah palin comment wher she boils it down to an absolute one or the other. Realize that it take a mix of free market and regulation to get the ideal. I dont know anyone that wants a communistic system...this is where rush limbaugh enters your tiny little mind to bail you out of intelligence. Its not all or one but a mix....do you see....... or do you want your neighbor screwin deer downtown cuz its his right. Do you see any balance at all?
of course i see balance.. exactly why i would NEVER vote for someone like obongo.
and you can bash rush all you want, he still speaks for conservatives/libertarians like myself the whole country over. keep taking what you hear others say about him and saying it yourself without knowing better.. it makes you look about as informed and intelligent as you are ;D
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The main issue I see is that you have mostly obama voters like blacken straw and benny in complete denial to reality while you only have a few like tu holmes and hugo who are at least honest about what a con job was pulled on the public.
And those in denial can't even give a plausible defense for this insanity and hence don't even try anymore.
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I was going to buy it you fuckhead. It wasnt a free proposal everyone would pay you fucking orangatan.
I think this is the first time in Getbig history anyone on the Politics board has been called an orangutan.
It made me laugh.
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Oh yeah we all have $500-$600 a month for a health plan. The free market is corrupt and holds people prisoner by gouging. Some things need regulating or everything trickles up......have you noticed that....it doesnt trickle down its pouring up!!!!!!
Get a better fucking job then. It's not my fault that you spent your formative years playing xbox.
You don't like the situation you're in? Change it. It's not my fault that you can't support yourself.
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Oh yeah we all have $500-$600 a month for a health plan. The free market is corrupt and holds people prisoner by gouging. Some things need regulating or everything trickles up......have you noticed that....it doesnt trickle down its pouring up!!!!!!
And why is that? Well gee when you have a government approved monopoly..... You want to blame someone for fucking things up, you can start with Ted Kennedy and the HMO act. More unconstitutional crap that has yet again back fired and made shit 1000X worse
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I think this is the first time in Getbig history anyone on the Politics board has been called an orangutan.
It made me laugh.
Ive called Betty Blanco and SAMSON an orangutan on many occasions.
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Get a better fucking job then. It's not my fault that you spent your formative years playing xbox.
You don't like the situation you're in? Change it. It's not my fault that you can't support yourself.
Man your a dense peice of shit arent you. Do you understand how capitialism works at all? The monopolies are created by wallstreet corporations responsability to shareholders. This creates an enviroment that promotes fraudulant strategies to get ahead....hence all the oil and real estate bubbles. It takes a mix of the free market and regulation to keep things in line......dont get all stupid and sarah palin on me and fall back to :govt sucks" Think for a change.
Now regarding your "get a better job" bullshit. It used to be a college education could get you a better paying job.....but guesswhat dumbass? That was before globalization of the workforce. Now the usa has to compete with people who make a dollar a day.....and it aint flying you see! Saw a show last nite where a damn architecht is a bike messenger for shit wages....think he can afford healthcare now.....is it his fault....is the solution to "Better" himself? He already did better himself!!! And he is where he is not out of choice.
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Man your a dense peice of shit arent you. Do you understand how capitialism works at all? The monopolies are created by wallstreet corporations responsability to shareholders. This creates an enviroment that promotes fraudulant strategies to get ahead....hence all the oil and real estate bubbles. It takes a mix of the free market and regulation to keep things in line......dont get all stupid and sarah palin on me and fall back to :govt sucks" Think for a change.
Now regarding your "get a better job" bullshit. It used to be a college education could get you a better paying job.....but guesswhat dumbass? That was before globalization of the workforce. Now the usa has to compete with people who make a dollar a day.....and it aint flying you see! Saw a show last nite where a damn architecht is a bike messenger for shit wages....think he can afford healthcare now.....is it his fault....is the solution to "Better" himself? He already did better himself!!! And he is where he is not out of choice.
You have heard of the anti-trust act haven't you? You see that makes monopolies illegal, so unless the Federal government is complicit in these monopolies......
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Obamacare was the worst of both worlds. It did nothing to create more free enterprise and competition with carriers thereby skyrocketing costs, but also did not provide an affordable option for people.
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Ive called Betty Blanco and SAMSON an orangutan on many occasions.
Damn, I missed that.
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Damn, I missed that.
And you are going to miss your account "lurkernomore" after you are forced to delete it.
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And you are going to miss your account "lurkernomore" after you are forced to delete it.
Hold the phone. What happened?
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Hold the phone. What happened?
Lurker and Blacken think I am making up my legal credentials. I offered to prove them wrong on Friday by posting my drivers license, BAR Id, copies of all diplomas, copy of certificates from the Eastern and Southern District of New York showing admittance to Federal Court, E Courts Calendar ID, E Courts calendar showing my present cases on the NYS Supreme calendar, pistol permit, Court ID, etc, and they refused. So Lurker says he is coming to NYC in June to verify it himself and If i can prove i am an attorney, he will delete his account,
I'm hoping a bunch others hop on this challenge. I offered to have Ozmo and 240 be the judge last week and he refused because he knows he is donezo.
Say goodbye to Lurker - his sorry ass wont be around for much longer.
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LurkerOnceMore?
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That's rough.
Lurker I don't mind. There's 5 or 10 others who post here that I wish would've taken the bait.
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Lurker and Blacken think I am making up my legal credentials. I offered to prove them wrong on Friday by posting my drivers license, BAR Id, copies of all diplomas, copy of certificates from the Eastern and Southern District of New York showing admittance to Federal Court, E Courts Calendar ID, E Courts calendar showing my present cases on the NYS Supreme calendar, pistol permit, Court ID, etc, and they refused. So Lurker says he is coming to NYC in June to verify it himself and If i can prove i am an attorney, he will delete his account,
I'm hoping a bunch others hop on this challenge. I offered to have Ozmo and 240 be the judge last week and he refused because he knows he is donezo.
Say goodbye to Lurker - his sorry ass wont be around for much longer.
You've already got your real name, business name, etc. on this board, but usually it seems these things never work out. They claim the documents were fake, each accusing the other of not showing, etc.
Found the thread on the V, haha. Should be stickied here.
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Man your a dense peice of shit arent you. Do you understand how capitialism works at all? The monopolies are created by wallstreet corporations responsability to shareholders. This creates an enviroment that promotes fraudulant strategies to get ahead....hence all the oil and real estate bubbles. It takes a mix of the free market and regulation to keep things in line......dont get all stupid and sarah palin on me and fall back to :govt sucks" Think for a change.
Now regarding your "get a better job" bullshit. It used to be a college education could get you a better paying job.....but guesswhat dumbass? That was before globalization of the workforce. Now the usa has to compete with people who make a dollar a day.....and it aint flying you see! Saw a show last nite where a damn architecht is a bike messenger for shit wages....think he can afford healthcare now.....is it his fault....is the solution to "Better" himself? He already did better himself!!! And he is where he is not out of choice.
everything is for profit in some sense...
problem is this govt regulation is going to HURT much much MORE than its going to HELP...you think everyone will buy insurance but actually less will. why buy insurance when you can pay a lesser penalty and buy insurance anytime b/c there is no pre-existing conditions clause?
LOL do yourself a favor and do some research on romney care in mass. see what happen to the enrolement rates after it was passed.
its also going to put a strangle hold on small business in a number of ways.
I wouldnt say its the architects fault but it isnt mine he cant find a decent job either. Go back to school educate himself in something that is more in demand.
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Man your a dense peice of shit arent you. Do you understand how capitialism works at all? The monopolies are created by wallstreet corporations responsability to shareholders. This creates an enviroment that promotes fraudulant strategies to get ahead....hence all the oil and real estate bubbles. It takes a mix of the free market and regulation to keep things in line......dont get all stupid and sarah palin on me and fall back to :govt sucks" Think for a change.
Now regarding your "get a better job" bullshit. It used to be a college education could get you a better paying job.....but guesswhat dumbass? That was before globalization of the workforce. Now the usa has to compete with people who make a dollar a day.....and it aint flying you see! Saw a show last nite where a damn architecht is a bike messenger for shit wages....think he can afford healthcare now.....is it his fault....is the solution to "Better" himself? He already did better himself!!! And he is where he is not out of choice.
Again, if you couldn't keep up with changing times, it's not my fault.
"It used to be that a college education could get you a better paying job." Well, a generation before that only took a high school education, but things change. It's not my fault when others don't keep up.
If you don't want to go back for a graduate degree, more training, or take the risk to start your own business, that's fine. But when your current status is such that you can't afford health insurance and you refuse to improve your skills enough to be able to afford it, I don't see how it's my responsibility to buy it for you.
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Again, if you couldn't keep up with changing times, it's not my fault.
"It used to be that a college education could get you a better paying job." Well, a generation before that only took a high school education, but things change. It's not my fault when others don't keep up.
If you don't want to go back for a graduate degree, more training, or take the risk to start your own business, that's fine. But when your current status is such that you can't afford health insurance and you refuse to improve your skills enough to be able to afford it, I don't see how it's my responsibility to buy it for you.
Insensitive post reported.
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Again, if you couldn't keep up with changing times, it's not my fault.
"It used to be that a college education could get you a better paying job." Well, a generation before that only took a high school education, but things change. It's not my fault when others don't keep up.
If you don't want to go back for a graduate degree, more training, or take the risk to start your own business, that's fine. But when your current status is such that you can't afford health insurance and you refuse to improve your skills enough to be able to afford it, I don't see how it's my responsibility to buy it for you.
You buy insurance for thousands of people a day who walk into emergency rooms. Shall we try to end this or do you enjoy status quo?
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You buy insurance for thousands of people a day who walk into emergency rooms. Shall we try to end this or do you enjoy status quo?
Yes we do, they're called illegal immigrants.
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Yes we do, they're called illegal immigrants.
Damn, I wasnt even counting them.. ;D
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Damn, I wasnt even counting them.. ;D
I live in SoCal......can't get away from them.
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You buy insurance for thousands of people a day who walk into emergency rooms. Shall we try to end this or do you enjoy status quo?
so lets get this straight we can either buy insurance for those unwilling or unable to afford it...OR...we can simply stop giving away free health care...
hmmmm, if these ppl arent homeless they probably have jobs...if they have jobs and report their earnings to the govt they can dock their pay...
why is it our responsibility to pay for their and your health care?