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Title: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 225for70 on May 04, 2011, 04:44:57 PM
Call me retarded for believing in some conspiracy theories. However, Bin laden wasn't killed this week..The body was dumped into the ocean..instant DNA test administered. Whitehouse claiming pics, then stonewalling..

Panetta now claiming

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
sama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos-show-three-dead-men-bin-laden-raid-194758961.html

Photos show three dead men at bin Laden raid house, none osama


Now a top dem saying we don't need evidance of photo

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hoyer-white-house-should-not-release-osa

How Photos from Obama’s Speech on Bin Laden’s Death Were Staged
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/obama-speech-bin-laden-staged_b34749#more-34749

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383106/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Wife-watched-die-White-House-reveals-WASNT-armed.html



The story keeps changing minute to minute
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 04, 2011, 05:34:17 PM
Call me retarded for believing in some conspiracy theories. However, Bin laden wasn't killed this week..The body was dumped into the ocean..instant DNA test administered. Whitehouse claiming pics, then stonewalling..

The story keeps changing minute to minute

All valid points but the DNA one really takes the cake unless they have some new 24 hour DNA profiling available that I don't know of. They said thats what they used to verify, so can anyone correct me on this?
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2011, 05:38:30 PM
LMAO stories on all big events change minute to minute b/c the press is so eager to get shit out they run with things before they have a chance to double check.

remember the gifford shooting and how the story changed like 20 times?

9/11?

Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: blinky on May 04, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
- burial at sea
- instant(basically) DNA test
- not releasing his photos because they are to graphic...YET releasing others


 :-\
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 04, 2011, 05:40:18 PM
LMAO stories on all big events change minute to minute b/c the press is so eager to get shit out they run with things before they have a chance to double check.

remember the gifford shooting and how the story changed like 20 times?

9/11?



Is the press making this stuff up or are they getting the info from government sources thats changing from day to day? Do you have an answer for the DNA stuff or was the above part of it?
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 225for70 on May 04, 2011, 05:46:04 PM
What about the picture of Clinton, Obama, etc all in the same room watching the event like it was the super bowl..? Not one had a worried look on there face, as the outcome was always known..

You know how lazy these politicians are, and to have them all together on a Sunday night? ::)


The most wanted man in the history of the world, throw into the sea..How laughable does this sound..?

Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 04, 2011, 05:55:02 PM
(http://urimg.net/images/cabinetrea.jpg)
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Fury on May 04, 2011, 05:56:44 PM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/image0011-550x147.jpg)
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2011, 05:57:09 PM
Is the press making this stuff up or are they getting the info from government sources thats changing from day to day? Do you have an answer for the DNA stuff or was the above part of it?
probably a combination of the two with the majority on the press.

there are instant dna tests out there and seeing as they knew they were going in they probably had all the necessary shit ready to test his dna.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2011, 05:58:19 PM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/image0011-550x147.jpg)
hahahah epic
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 04, 2011, 05:59:01 PM
probably a combination of the two with the majority on the press.

there are instant dna tests out there and seeing as they knew they were going in they probably had all the necessary shit ready to test his dna.

I wasnt aware of this but now Im am definatly interested in the capabilities and reliabilit in these tests, thanks.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2011, 06:00:14 PM
(http://urimg.net/images/cabinetrea.jpg)
havent heard this pic was old yet...please post the link to this
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 04, 2011, 06:00:17 PM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/image0011-550x147.jpg)

lol

That is a good one.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tonymctones on May 04, 2011, 06:01:46 PM
I wasnt aware of this but now Im am definatly interested in the capabilities and reliabilit in these tests, thanks.
LOL either was I, i simply typed instant dna test into google and searched around for a few mins

I would assume that the US military has technology at its finger tips that make the shit we have available to us look like kids toys
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 04, 2011, 06:22:15 PM
(http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/image0011-550x147.jpg)

LOL!  Love this.   ;D
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: John O on May 04, 2011, 06:24:02 PM
If Bin laden is still alive, he would love nothing more then to prove it and show the goverment lied. So if he is still alive look for a video from him saying something about the failed attempt to kill him and for him to mention that date.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2011, 06:38:24 PM
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Pic of Obama's speech was staged
Politico44 ^ | 05/04/11 | BRYAN DOYLE
Posted on May 4, 2011 7:34:12 PM EDT by ColdOne

The photos are now widespread online and in newspapers, images of a confident President Obama striding toward the camera to announce the killing of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

Not so widespread, however, is the news that the photos weren’t from Obama’s actual history-making speech. According to a Reuters blog post, the photos were taken after Obama’s actual announcement, during a brief reenactment minutes later.

~SNIP~

The reenactment isn’t the only way the administration has edited its media rollout of bin Laden’s death. In a widely used photo of Obama and his national security team in the Situation Room, what appears to be a picture near Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is blurred. The text below photo says the document is classified.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: peruke on May 04, 2011, 07:14:04 PM
Call me retarded for believing in some conspiracy theories. However, Bin laden wasn't killed this week..The body was dumped into the ocean..instant DNA test administered. Whitehouse claiming pics, then stonewalling..

Panetta now claiming

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
sama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos-show-three-dead-men-bin-laden-raid-194758961.html

Photos show three dead men at bin Laden raid house, none osama


Now a top dem saying we don't need evidance of photo

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hoyer-white-house-should-not-release-osa

How Photos from Obama’s Speech on Bin Laden’s Death Were Staged
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/obama-speech-bin-laden-staged_b34749#more-34749

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383106/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Wife-watched-die-White-House-reveals-WASNT-armed.html



The story keeps changing minute to minute


Did Hitler die?   Was there a Moon Landing?  Is the world flat?   Will man ever fly? Was Lincoln shot?  Was Jimmy Hoffa Killed?  Where is Judge Crater?  Is amilia Erhart dead?
Is Saddam Hussan Dead?  Did (W) let 911 happen?    Is that enough conspiracies? Is Elvis, John Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, alive and living in Argentina? ::)



Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: newmom on May 04, 2011, 07:15:44 PM
well his 12 year old daughter stated he was captured then shot and is dead. What's hard to believe about that ::)
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 04, 2011, 07:16:24 PM
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Pic of Obama's speech was staged
Politico44 ^ | 05/04/11 | BRYAN DOYLE
Posted on May 4, 2011 7:34:12 PM EDT by ColdOne

The photos are now widespread online and in newspapers, images of a confident President Obama striding toward the camera to announce the killing of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

Not so widespread, however, is the news that the photos weren’t from Obama’s actual history-making speech. According to a Reuters blog post, the photos were taken after Obama’s actual announcement, during a brief reenactment minutes later.

~SNIP~

The reenactment isn’t the only way the administration has edited its media rollout of bin Laden’s death. In a widely used photo of Obama and his national security team in the Situation Room, what appears to be a picture near Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is blurred. The text below photo says the document is classified.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...




333386, you posted this a few times  i think, what about it in particular is getting to you?
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2011, 07:19:41 PM
Seems like Potemkin Village. 
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 04, 2011, 07:20:03 PM
havent heard this pic was old yet...please post the link to this

Sorry, I don't know how old it is but it def. has some other photoshop stuff in it other then that which is obvious.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: SAMSON123 on May 04, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
Call me retarded for believing in some conspiracy theories. However, Bin laden wasn't killed this week..The body was dumped into the ocean..instant DNA test administered. Whitehouse claiming pics, then stonewalling..

Panetta now claiming

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
sama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos-show-three-dead-men-bin-laden-raid-194758961.html

Photos show three dead men at bin Laden raid house, none osama


Now a top dem saying we don't need evidance of photo

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hoyer-white-house-should-not-release-osa

How Photos from Obama’s Speech on Bin Laden’s Death Were Staged
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/obama-speech-bin-laden-staged_b34749#more-34749

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383106/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Wife-watched-die-White-House-reveals-WASNT-armed.html



The story keeps changing minute to minute

When a person's or entitie's story changes minute to minute, that is when you know they are lying. Here is another story change

 White House Revises Account Of Bin Laden's Final Moments


First Posted: 05/ 3/11 03:52 PM ET Updated: 05/ 4/11 08:22 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- White House Press Secretary Jay Carney spent Tuesday correcting misstatements by administration officials on Osama bin Laden’s final moments before he was gunned down Sunday.

“We provided a great deal of information with great haste in order to inform you … about the operation,” Carney said during a briefing, in a concession that administration officials have erred in their details of the raid on bin Laden's compound outside of Islamabad, Pakistan. “Obviously some of the information came in piece by piece and is being reviewed and updated and elaborated on.”

Reading from a script carefully crafted by the Defense Department, Carney clarified that bin Laden was not armed with a gun when he was killed, contrary to some reports that he fired back at U.S. military operatives. In addition, White House counterinsurgency adviser John Brennan was wrong when he suggested Monday that one of bin Laden’s wives was killed serving as a human shield for bin Laden during gunfire.

“In the room with bin Laden, a woman -- bin Laden’s wife -- rushed the U.S. assaulter and was shot in the leg but not killed. Bin Laden was then shot and killed. He was not armed,” Carney said. Separately, another woman on the first floor was killed in crossfire, which may have led to Brennan's misstatement.

The White House spokesman wouldn’t say whether bin Laden had any kind of weapon when he was killed or what kind of resistance he put up. Carney said only, “There was concern that bin Laden would oppose the capture operation and indeed he resisted.”

Carney also retraced the steps by which bin Laden’s body was buried in the North Arabian Sea. The body was washed, placed in a white sheet and in a weighted bag, at which point a military officer “read prepared religious remarks” that were translated into Arabic by a native speaker. The body was then “placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, and the deceased body eased into the sea,” he said.

The White House is still mulling whether to release a picture of bin Laden killed. While releasing such a photo would confirm once and for all to naysayers that bin Laden is dead, "It's fair to say it's a gruesome photograph," Carney said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/03/white-house-revises-bin-laden-final-moments_n_857073.html?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|sec1_lnk3|212063
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2011, 07:29:47 PM
I really am at a loss for how inept Obama admn is in this.   If obi was unarmed just fucking say it. 
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: SAMSON123 on May 04, 2011, 07:33:52 PM
I really am at a loss for how inept Obama admn is in this.   If obi was unarmed just fucking say it. 

I am at a loss that anyone believes any of this bullshit!!!!!
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2011, 07:36:13 PM
I am at a loss that anyone believes any of this bullshit!!!!!

This whole thing seems very wierd now.  Obama admn releases a photo of a supposed live feed but now claims there was no live feed.  Well, what were they watching?
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: peruke on May 05, 2011, 05:17:03 AM
This whole thing seems very wierd now.  Obama admn releases a photo of a supposed live feed but now claims there was no live feed.  Well, what were they watching?



Have any polititians ever been honest?    :'(
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: loco on May 05, 2011, 05:26:17 AM
Call me retarded for believing in some conspiracy theories. However, Bin laden wasn't killed this week..The body was dumped into the ocean..instant DNA test administered. Whitehouse claiming pics, then stonewalling..

Panetta now claiming

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
sama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos-show-three-dead-men-bin-laden-raid-194758961.html

Photos show three dead men at bin Laden raid house, none osama


Now a top dem saying we don't need evidance of photo

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hoyer-white-house-should-not-release-osa

How Photos from Obama’s Speech on Bin Laden’s Death Were Staged
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/obama-speech-bin-laden-staged_b34749#more-34749

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383106/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Wife-watched-die-White-House-reveals-WASNT-armed.html



The story keeps changing minute to minute

Like Ron Paul said, the government is inviting conspiracy theories.  The whole thing is very strange.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Deicide on May 05, 2011, 05:42:07 AM
It's very possible he died of kidney failure years ago...we'll never know for sure.

And usually I am not a conspiracist but c'mon, you have to be blind and dumb to take everything the government says at face value; Gulf of Tonkin, for example.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tonymctones on May 05, 2011, 07:43:31 PM
It's very possible he died of kidney failure years ago...we'll never know for sure.

And usually I am not a conspiracist but c'mon, you have to be blind and dumb to take everything the government says at face value; Gulf of Tonkin, for example.
agreed, but to think that the govt could pull of a 9/11 style stunt is 100x more idiotic...

the times they are a different my boy it was easy to pass off a ct 50 yrs ago, not so much these days...

sure the details may be fudged but rest assured bin laden is dead by US's hand.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: BayGBM on May 06, 2011, 10:55:02 AM
I believe it.


Al-Qaida confirms Osama bin Laden's death
By MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press

Al-Qaida on Friday confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and warned of retaliation, saying Americans'"happiness will turn to sadness."

The confirmation came in an Internet statement posted on militant websites, signed by "the general leadership" of al-Qaida. The announcement opens the way for the group to name a successor to bin Laden. His deputy Ayman al-Zawahri is now the most prominent figure in the group and is a very likely contender to take his place.

The statement, dated May 3, was the first by the terror network since bin Laden was killed Monday by U.S. commandos in a raid on his hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The statement's authenticity could not be independently confirmed, but it was posted on websites where the group traditionally puts out its messages.

"The blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is too precious to us and to all Muslims to go in vain," the statement said. "We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries."

"Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness," it said, "their blood will be mingled with their tears."

There was no indication how the group will retaliate. Rather than making vehement cries of vengeance, the statement — entitled "You lived as a good man, you died as a martyr" — struck a tone of calmness and continuation. Though it included praise of bin Laden, much of the 11-paragraph statement was dedicated to underlining that al-Qaida would live on, depicting him as just another in a line of "martyrs" from the group.

"It is impossible, impossible. Sheik Osama didn't build an organization to die when he dies," the statement read. "The university of faith, Quran and jihad from which bin Laden graduated will not close its doors," it added.

"The soldiers of Islam will continue in groups and united, plotting and planning without getting bored, tired, with determination, without giving up until striking a blow," the statement.

It said bin Laden was killed "along an established path followed by the best of those who came before him and those who will come after him."

In the statement, al-Qaida also called on Pakistanis to rise up in revolt against its leaders to "cleanse the shame." It also said that an audio message bin Laden recorded a week before his death would be issued soon.

The writers of the statement appeared unaware of the announcement by American officials that bin Laden's body had been buried at sea. The statement warned against mishandling or mistreating bin Laden's body and demanded that be handed over to his family, saying "any harm (to the body) will open more doors of evil, and there will be no one to blame but yourselves."
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: loco on May 06, 2011, 11:12:15 AM
I believe it.


Al-Qaida confirms Osama bin Laden's death
By MAGGIE MICHAEL, Associated Press

Al-Qaida on Friday confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden and warned of retaliation, saying Americans'"happiness will turn to sadness."

The confirmation came in an Internet statement posted on militant websites, signed by "the general leadership" of al-Qaida. The announcement opens the way for the group to name a successor to bin Laden. His deputy Ayman al-Zawahri is now the most prominent figure in the group and is a very likely contender to take his place.

The statement, dated May 3, was the first by the terror network since bin Laden was killed Monday by U.S. commandos in a raid on his hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The statement's authenticity could not be independently confirmed, but it was posted on websites where the group traditionally puts out its messages.

"The blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is too precious to us and to all Muslims to go in vain," the statement said. "We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries."

"Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness," it said, "their blood will be mingled with their tears."

There was no indication how the group will retaliate. Rather than making vehement cries of vengeance, the statement — entitled "You lived as a good man, you died as a martyr" — struck a tone of calmness and continuation. Though it included praise of bin Laden, much of the 11-paragraph statement was dedicated to underlining that al-Qaida would live on, depicting him as just another in a line of "martyrs" from the group.

"It is impossible, impossible. Sheik Osama didn't build an organization to die when he dies," the statement read. "The university of faith, Quran and jihad from which bin Laden graduated will not close its doors," it added.

"The soldiers of Islam will continue in groups and united, plotting and planning without getting bored, tired, with determination, without giving up until striking a blow," the statement.

It said bin Laden was killed "along an established path followed by the best of those who came before him and those who will come after him."

In the statement, al-Qaida also called on Pakistanis to rise up in revolt against its leaders to "cleanse the shame." It also said that an audio message bin Laden recorded a week before his death would be issued soon.

The writers of the statement appeared unaware of the announcement by American officials that bin Laden's body had been buried at sea. The statement warned against mishandling or mistreating bin Laden's body and demanded that be handed over to his family, saying "any harm (to the body) will open more doors of evil, and there will be no one to blame but yourselves."

Link?

Other sources say they could not confirm the authenticity of this al-Qaida statement.  Conspiracy theorists would say that the CIA probably have online members on all of these websites and they, the CIA, could have posted the statement.    :)

Another theory circulating is that Osama is secretly being interrogated before being secretly executed and dumped in the sea for real.  Why would they kill the unarmed, #1 source of info on possible future attacks on the US?
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 11:22:48 AM
Link?

Other sources say they could not confirm the authenticity of this al-Qaida statement.  Conspiracy theorists would say that the CIA probably have online members on all of these websites and they, the CIA, could have posted the statement.    :)

Another theory circulating is that Osama is secretly being interrogated before being secretly executed and dumped in the sea for real.  Why would they kill the unarmed, #1 source of info on possible future attacks on the US?

I think they shot him because they were concerned he might be wearing an explosive vest.  I would have shot him too, unless he was naked with his hands in the air, with nothing around him. 
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2011, 11:25:13 AM
I think they shot him because they were concerned he might be wearing an explosive vest.  I would have shot him too, unless he was naked with his hands in the air, with nothing around him. 


No - they shot him because bringing him to the USA would turn into a circus as a result of Obama's dithering and chaos re: civilian trials, gitmo, no interrogation, etc.   
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: loco on May 06, 2011, 11:32:32 AM
I think they shot him because they were concerned he might be wearing an explosive vest.  I would have shot him too, unless he was naked with his hands in the air, with nothing around him. 

That actually does make sense, except they know that suicide bombers now a days detonate their explosive vest by releasing a safety lever, like in a hand grenade, and not by pressing a button or flipping a switch.  The safety lever is automatically released if the terrorist falls dead, immediately detonating the explosives.

I believe Osama is dead, or had been dead or will be dead very soon.  I don't believe that we will ever know exactly what really happened in that compound.  Too many inconsistencies coming from the White House.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Deicide on May 06, 2011, 11:33:36 AM
That actually does make sense, except they know that suicide bombers now a days detonate their explosive vest by releasing a safety lever, like in a hand grenade, and not by pressing a button or flipping a switch.  The safety lever is automatically released if the terrorist falls dead, immediately detonating the explosives.

I believe Osama is dead, or had been dead or will be dead very soon.  I don't believe that we will ever know exactly what really happened in that compound.  Too many inconsistencies coming from the White House.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: loco on May 06, 2011, 11:35:04 AM

No - they shot him because bringing him to the USA would turn into a circus as a result of Obama's dithering and chaos re: civilian trials, gitmo, no interrogation, etc.   

A conspiracy theory is that he was secretly taken by the US to one of the many interrogation facilities around the world, and eventually will end up in the bottom of the sea anyway.   :)
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 06, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
remember the popular mecahnics radio interview?  they famously said the dna of all 19 hijackers was id'd and matched within 24 hours, allowing for the file of all of them to be ready by 10 AM on Sept 12th.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 06, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
when I questioned the line of events 4 days ago, it was all "240, how dare you question this?"

Now we see the white house telling what, a FOURTH version of the story????
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2011, 12:04:18 PM
when I questioned the line of events 4 days ago, it was all "240, how dare you question this?"

Now we see the white house telling what, a FOURTH version of the story????

Saxby Chambliss is peddling another version today.   
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
That actually does make sense, except they know that suicide bombers now a days detonate their explosive vest by releasing a safety lever, like in a hand grenade, and not by pressing a button or flipping a switch.  The safety lever is automatically released if the terrorist falls dead, immediately detonating the explosives.

I believe Osama is dead, or had been dead or will be dead very soon.  I don't believe that we will ever know exactly what really happened in that compound.  Too many inconsistencies coming from the White House.

I believe he is dead too.  There are definitely inconsistencies coming from the White House, but I don't really care if I get all of the details surrounding how he died. 
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2011, 12:13:52 PM
I believe he is dead too.  There are definitely inconsistencies coming from the White House, but I don't really care if I get all of the details surrounding how he died. 

I believe he is dead, and I believe that the seals probably just burst in the door guns blazing and capped his ass.   

I believe bama and holder are communist pukes who have to tailor this story to apepase their far left crazies who will probably try to bring the seals up on murder charges if it is shown bin laden was unarmed. 
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: loco on May 06, 2011, 12:27:34 PM
I believe he is dead, and I believe that the seals probably just burst in the door guns blazing and capped his ass.   

I believe bama and holder are communist pukes who have to tailor this story to apepase their far left crazies who will probably try to bring the seals up on murder charges if it is shown bin laden was unarmed. 

This in my opinion is a good possibility for why the White House is releasing so many inconsistencies, trying to please everyone at the same time.  That's impossible, but they are trying and they are messing this thing up in the process. 

I know many don't like Bush, but Bush never tried to please everyone.  He said what he had to say and did what he had to do, even if it made him unpopular, and lived with the consequences.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
I believe he is dead, and I believe that the seals probably just burst in the door guns blazing and capped his ass.   

I believe bama and holder are communist pukes who have to tailor this story to apepase their far left crazies who will probably try to bring the seals up on murder charges if it is shown bin laden was unarmed. 

They're not just appeasing those on the left, but Muslims too with the whole "respectful" burial.  
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: BayGBM on May 06, 2011, 12:56:23 PM
Link?

Other sources say they could not confirm the authenticity of this al-Qaida statement.  Conspiracy theorists would say that the CIA probably have online members on all of these websites and they, the CIA, could have posted the statement.    :)

Another theory circulating is that Osama is secretly being interrogated before being secretly executed and dumped in the sea for real.  Why would they kill the unarmed, #1 source of info on possible future attacks on the US?

Al Qaeda Confirms Bin Laden’s Death
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/world/asia/07qaeda.html?hp

Al-Qaida confirms Osama bin Laden's death
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/05/06/international/i052228D98.DTL&tsp=1

Al Qaeda threatens to retaliate against U.S.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-qaeda-warning-20110507,0,5585613.story
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 06, 2011, 01:10:35 PM
i believe osama was on the floor when they got in there.

either dead by his own hand, or scared shitless.  Rounded everyone up, secured residence, and then gave the nod and shot him in the head.

Which is cool, no prob.  It's just they should admit that - not give 4 versions of the events.  I criticized them from minute 1 when the story just did not jive - it was TOO PERFECT.  You know, terr'ist shitting himself cowering behind woman while navy guy shoots him in eyeball perfectly.

too hollywood - you could have written that.  Let's embarass him to the end.  I don't think he committed suicide, but if he did, we wouldn't get that info.  They probably did do what the witnesses say - shot him in front of everyone after captured.  it's cool - just admit it.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: loco on May 06, 2011, 01:21:34 PM
Al Qaeda Confirms Bin Laden’s Death
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/world/asia/07qaeda.html?hp

Al-Qaida confirms Osama bin Laden's death
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/05/06/international/i052228D98.DTL&tsp=1

Al Qaeda threatens to retaliate against U.S.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-qaeda-warning-20110507,0,5585613.story

Thanks BayGBM!
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tu_holmes on May 06, 2011, 01:43:21 PM
i believe osama was on the floor when they got in there.


You believe a lot of retarded shit.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 01:57:14 PM
You believe a lot of retarded shit.

lol
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 06, 2011, 02:54:23 PM
You believe a lot of retarded shit.

I didn't believe the official hollywood story.  You did tho, huh?
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: tu_holmes on May 06, 2011, 09:17:30 PM
I didn't believe the official hollywood story.  You did tho, huh?

No. I believed that the details would come out and speculation... especially retarded speculation is worthless.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 07, 2011, 04:00:05 AM
No. I believed that the details would come out and speculation... especially retarded speculation is worthless.

Most of what we do here on getbig is analysis and speculation.

you have our lifetime's equivalent of hitler getting killed... and it was obvious from minute one that the govt was LYING about how it happened.  So yeah, they certainly invited speculation.  It's just about every voice on the right doing it now as well - levin, hannity, rush all going at obama this week for it.  I was just earlier on it :)
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 07, 2011, 04:03:11 AM
Call me retarded for believing in some conspiracy theories. However, Bin laden wasn't killed this week..The body was dumped into the ocean..instant DNA test administered. Whitehouse claiming pics, then stonewalling..

Panetta now claiming

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
sama bin Laden dead: Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/photos-show-three-dead-men-bin-laden-raid-194758961.html

Photos show three dead men at bin Laden raid house, none osama


Now a top dem saying we don't need evidance of photo

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/hoyer-white-house-should-not-release-osa

How Photos from Obama’s Speech on Bin Laden’s Death Were Staged
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/obama-speech-bin-laden-staged_b34749#more-34749

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383106/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Wife-watched-die-White-House-reveals-WASNT-armed.html



The story keeps changing minute to minute

I didn't notice this thread before.  Good to see others aren't taking this hook, line, and sinker!  ;D
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 07, 2011, 04:04:20 AM
If Bin laden is still alive, he would love nothing more then to prove it and show the goverment lied. So if he is still alive look for a video from him saying something about the failed attempt to kill him and for him to mention that date.

Maybe he died years ago?

???
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Freeborn126 on May 07, 2011, 09:20:49 AM
He died in 2001/2002 of kidney failure.  Most people should already know this.  Does anyone actually believe anything that comes out of this adminstration anymore? 

"Alternative Media Rankings Surge After bin Laden Assassination Spectacle
         

Activist Post
May 7, 2011

A story like the assassination of “public enemy #1″ is naturally going to drive people toward all news sources.  However, we in the alternative news media have been particularly busy since the announcement late Sunday night, as indicated by Alexa website rankings.

For those of us covering the government and mainstream media lies, distortions, and pure propaganda, it has been nearly overwhelming to attend to every facet of this professional wrestling-style spectacle.  As a result, traffic to alternative news sites has surged dramatically.  This is very encouraging, as it indicates that people are not immediately rushing only to the comfort and security of the official story, which is largely framed by appeals to emotion — rather, people appear to be hungry for facts.  Given that alternative media generally does not have even a fraction of the budget of corporate media, the ranking increases are doubly satisfying.  We are honored to be included with the true news sources below as a reliable indicator of the search for truth and justice amid the miasma of the current official coverage of the bin Laden Assassination Show being peddled for obviously corporate and political reasons.

Alternative News 7-day change according to Alexa; listed in order of overall ranking:

Drudge Report –  Rank: 342  Change: 48
Infowars — Rank: 1,095 Change: 737
Prison Planet –  Rank: 2,989  Change: 2,056

* We realize that there are many great sites and blogs, news aggregators such as Before It’s News, Rumormill News, Blacklisted News, Stan Deyo and Steve Quayle,  and YouTubers like Charlie McGrath from Wide Awake News and James Corbett from The Corbett Report that we omitted, due principally to the lack of available 7-day data.  We also chose to focus on those sites with original commentary that covered the bin Laden debacle in depth, as opposed to the many great cross-over sites from the health field such as Natural News and Food Freedom that have supported many other areas of alternative news.  Nearly all hardworking alternative media has increased across the board."

Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2011, 10:29:10 AM
More evidence of the conspiracy to fake Osama's death.  Pretty elaborate coverup.  lol 

Bin Laden's Last Days: Videos From Hideout Show a Vain Terrorist
Saturday, 07 May 2011

WASHINGTON – Newly released videos show Osama bin Laden inside his hideout, watching himself on television and rehearsing for terrorist propaganda videos.

The videos, released by U.S. intelligence officials Saturday, were offered as further proof that Navy SEALs killed the world's most wanted terrorist this week. But they also served to show bin Laden as vain, someone obsessed with his portrayal by the world's media.

One of the movies shows bin Laden, wrapped in a brown blanket and holding a remote control, flipping back and forth between clips of himself. The small television was perched on top of a desk with wires running to a nearby cable or control box.

In another, he has apparently dyed and neatly trimmed his beard for the filming of a propaganda video.

The videos were seized from bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Officials said the clips shown to reporters were just part of the largest collection of senior terrorist materials ever collected. The evidence seized during the raid also includes phone numbers and documents that officials hope will help break the back of the organization behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

For years, when it was assumed that bin Laden was living in Pakistan's rugged, mountainous tribal region, officials assumed bin Laden might not be able to get real-time news. After the CIA discovered bin Laden's suburban compound, they realized that a satellite dish provided a television feed to bin Laden's compound.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/BinLaden-Videos/2011/05/07/id/395539
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2011, 10:32:54 AM
Why can't they release the damn picture of his death.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 07, 2011, 12:20:56 PM
Why can't they release the damn picture of his death.

power of the incumbency - obama controls the flow of info and uses it to his benefit.

just like with the birth certificate - he will let repubs start CTs about it for 6 months.  Then, when politically convenient, he will allow the pics to be 'leaked'.

Repubs who lost a ton of credibility over the birth cert issue will lose more.  I can't believe they keep falling for this.
Title: Re: Who really believes Osama was killed this week?
Post by: 225for70 on May 09, 2011, 09:58:42 AM
OMG the new bin laden vids are funny.. :'(