These were posted a bit back:WOW!
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they will stop at nothing only to make a few bucks on your back,,they would really lie about anything
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The guns look dramatically improved.
This guy stays crazy lean even offseason.
He drinks 6 gallons of water (no typo) the last few weeks of his prep
bullshit.He talked about it in a training vid. Part of his "Water Loading strategy"
24 liters a day eh? take the shit elsewhere.
He talked about it in a training vid. Part of his "Water Loading strategy"
He talks about how everyone in the office makes fun of him peeing every 20 minutes
damn calves.. other than that impressive
I wish my calves were bigger. I have (and continue) to try to get them to grow, but I think no matter what my genetics for calves suck and they're never gonna catch up (I'll keep trying though). Oh well, fuck my calves.
He talked about it in a training vid. Part of his "Water Loading strategy"
He talks about how everyone in the office makes fun of him peeing every 20 minutes
lastly ,, take a comparison between the leaf boy from this boarding and this rodirigez fella,,it will show you ever5ything i mean ,,leaf boy taring himself a new asshole and on the hormones...he has as good as physiqe as rodrigez only les less time in bodybuild and less knowledge of dialing in ...but take a look at how they both look when few weeks out....similar in many ways...similar skin toning,,similar thickness,,similar density ,,similar everything aside from rodrigez gas bigger diamater to the muscle due to more years of doing the so call 'natural' thing...while the other leaf fella admit to the truth ,,
this is why i cant stand the natural liars,,they will stop at nothing only to make a few bucks on your back,,they would really lie about anything
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by the way ,,notice what hapen to his jaw line,,remember platz? rememebr how his jaw line looked from aas and hgh? some fellas cant hide it because you cant cut the jaw ...like avoiding bitch tits with masterona or ai....jaws and thickness of skin never lies
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good physiqe though
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trenbolona ,,masterona,,very low doses of testosterona phnyl prop or prop will get you this physiqe after 6 months of constant usage,,npp added in offseason with hgh for creating fibers couple months on then off to prep and grow lean into the show
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Your calf insertions are too high; they will never be big.
You're absolutely right! I train them to make them as big as THEY can be (regardless of how small that is).
The guns look dramatically improved.
This guy stays crazy lean even offseason.
He drinks 6 gallons of water (no typo) the last few weeks of his prep
Yeah, Leafybug looks good; i saw those pics (nice job, Leafy, great progress while still staying "natural," like me). Sure, I'm just trying to make a "a few bucks" of this; but I'm really having trouble getting those bucks... What the hell?Thanks Jeff... I remember back in 2007 i was consulting you on how to diet. I don't know if you remember those email exchanges. I was eating nothing but brocolli and eggwhites 7 meals a day with mustard on them. I don't know how i did that. I get sick to my stomach now thinking about it hahahahahaha.
I know right, my jaw is so fucking thick; its been growing out of control.
Thanks, thats nice coming from you.
You TOTALLY got it!!! Thats exactly what I take. Maybe you can give me some advice on how to get even bigger while still being "natural".
Here's a pic from 9 weeks out (taken 5-7-10). I bet I'm even less "natural" in this pic... you decide
Fantastic physique regardless.
Here's a pic from 9 weeks out (taken 5-7-10). I bet I'm even less "natural" in this pic... you decide
Here's another pic from that same day, above, taken probably a minute later. I think I'm MORE natural in this one (sometimes my posing makes me more/less natural). Anyways, 8.5 weeks to go now and trying to look as unnatural as I can.
ffs just stop
"water loading strategy" ::)
jrod,drinking that much on show day must be a bitch!!
What if you have to take a leak when they call your name to pose?
I`m serious,I piss like a bastard on only one gallon per day.
Thanks Jeff... I remember back in 2007 i was consulting you on how to diet. I don't know if you remember those email exchanges. I was eating nothing but brocolli and eggwhites 7 meals a day with mustard on them. I don't know how i did that. I get sick to my stomach now thinking about it hahahahahaha.
I totally remember. I'm sure I still have the emails in my gmail account. HAHAHAAH thats hilarious I have been doing that lately (egg whites with mustard and broccoli). Every year I usually go with a different main source (beef, chicken, fish, egg whites), and this year I'm back to egg whites (cheap, easy to measure and easy to cook cause I just microwave them). I eat 3 meals of this at the end of the day, not 7 (I'm only eating 6 total meals/day; 2 whey, 4 egg whites).WFT? That is a brutal meal.
Good luck on your show. You've made some damn good progress over the last few years.
If you are natural you must have some of the most elite genetics on the planet, minus the calves.
How long have you been lifting and how old are you?
WFT? That is a brutal meal.
I get ripped on for eating chicken and oatmeal 3x a day. If ate that stink bomb my coworkers would end me
You're damn right about that!
No, of course not, I am a skinny/small bitch thats just trying to get big. I'm sure there are PLENTY of people who have as good or better genetics than me, the thing is, who the hell wants to 1) be a bodybuilder and 2) stay natural when they realize they have decent potential and 3) be dedicated for years. I think its the combination of all that which is more rare than my actual genetics.
There are plenty of other "natural" or guys out there with great genetics. Maybe they just don't post on getbig cause they don't like being called liars (I dont give a shit, so its ok).
Anyways, I'm sure there is some guy out there who eats like shit, doesn't lift weights, etc. but could kick my ass on stage if he trained and ate as consistently and dedicated as I do (plus he would have better calves).
I have no problem drinking 2.5 gallons of water per day these days. I'm just used to it and love crystal light so I end up drinking a lot cause of that. I wil probably not chug water for a few hours before getting on stage so i dont have to pee, but its not gonna bother me. If you got yourself used to drinking 2 gallons/day (not saying you should or there would be a purpose), you would find that its not that much or hard to do or deal with.Thanks bro..............stay on point !
About as natural as a 105yr old mans erection, just another guy with shitty genetics who needs to lie to feel special.
About as natural as a 105yr old mans erection, just another guy with shitty genetics who needs to lie to feel special.
TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG
BTW, what sort of training routine do you have?
About as natural as a 105yr old mans erection, just another guy with shitty genetics who needs to lie to feel special.
Jrod, what percentage of contestants for team universe this year will be natural?
Why don't you just let me have my fun, bitch. Don't you wanna feel special too?
I don't know anymore. I used to train max-ot to the "t", but I gradually started straying away from it. Now I try to incorporate lifting heavy, moderate, and light (in terms of reps) and mainly (recently) have been just trying to avoid getting injured. I'm trying to learn how to vary my training and listen to my body. I used to just associate lifting heavy with gains, but I can't do that anymore.
What does "TEG" mean?
I don't know anymore. I used to train max-ot to the "t", but I gradually started straying away from it. Now I try to incorporate lifting heavy, moderate, and light (in terms of reps) and mainly (recently) have been just trying to avoid getting injured. I'm trying to learn how to vary my training and listen to my body. I used to just associate lifting heavy with gains, but I can't do that anymore.
What does "TEG" mean?
How does it feel deep inside knowing you are a fraud?What made you turn to drugs?Feelings of inadequacy?Being short?Ever had to do "favors" for your dealer for fear that he otherwise may rat you out?
Ever try the HST system?
TEG=Team Elite Genetics
What gives it away?
Fank Zane, known to be on every drug known to man back then, was at one time the best bodybuilder in the world
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
"Jrod" from "Getbig" no less, Natural lifter, younger than Zane with less training under his belt
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413127;image)
J-Rod looks better than Zane
HAHAHA, Exactly, can you imagine Jrod walking in to Golds in the 70's while Arnold, Zane, Big Lou etc were training and saying "Hey guys,Im Jrod from getbig, Ive been working out natural for 10yrs!" Arnold would have torn this lying shit stain a new one within a minute ;D
Does anyone really believe this guy looks better than the Genetic Elite from the 70's who did nothing but eat, train, inject and sleep?All while being natural?
Haha, another great natural from getbig ::)
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Yes, human DNA has really changed in that HUGE evolutionary gap of 40 years since the seventies ;D
Indeed
Another natural Getbigger :o
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Which clown is that claiming to be natural?Adrain
AdrainGodamm! Should'nt he be making million$$ playin linebacker in the league?
check his stats, bigger than Arnold :o
Height: 6' 3
Waist: 29"
Weight: 250lbs
Thighs: 28"
Calves: 17"
Chest: 50"
Forearms: 16"
Arms: 21"
Godamm! Should'nt he be making million$$ playin linebacker in the league?Yeah but he's natural he wouldn't be able to keep up with NFL juicers.
At least you admit it , respect , and good luck at the Universe .
I'm really trying to revolutionize this "getbig lying ass bitch natural"
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rarely do i post here, but i must say that ive seen jrod online and some of his videos and can honestly beleive this guy is completely natural. He is just VERY VERY dedicated, the guy is obsessed when it comes to bodybuilding and is super lean year round. People dont realize that as a natural, if you train your ass off, and eat right and stay lean, you will look pretty amazing, thus people will think you are on steroids.
2 years back, before an injury i had, i was NOT natural, but was on a H.R.T. dose of 200mg of test enanthate per week and was able to get to 235 lbs at about 7% bodyfat, and people thought i was on a boatload of drugs. Never mind the fact that i NEVER missed a workout training 5 days a week, for 2 hours per session and that my diet was on POINT!! Its amazing what discipline in regards to diet and training will do for anybody whether they are natural or not!!
Jayrod, tell these guys how much you end up weighing when you are onstage. If you were on drugs youd be in the 200's. People are just hating bro, I wouldnt even bother posting here or replying to these people, they will just bring out the worst in you and then you end up finding yourself replying to these haters and stooping to their level.
From my understanding you step on stage at under 200 lbs. So much for being on drugs. Oh and as far as calves, i totally understand what you are saying, i train them diligently and they wont grow all that much, but have gotten some good shape to them, oh well. Again, fuck these haters bro, keep on keepng on.!!!!!
-c
BTW,awesome physique bro,I hope you win it this year.
that's a fucking AWESOME physiqueStavios this guy looks bigger than you, no disrespect. You better tell gh15 u want to get on this guys small dose program, bc it looks like it works better than gh15 high dosage and insulin. ;)
good muscle bellies for a white guy and tiny joints !!!
plus he knows how to pose
Stavios this guy looks bigger than you, no disrespect. You better tell gh15 u want to get on this guys small dose program, bc it looks like it works better than gh15 high dosage and insulin. ;)
Stavios looks great but he must be jealous when he sees what Jeff has achieved with no drugs at all, just hard work.
I am not jealous I am happy for him and I like to see his pictures as I am a fan of bodybuilding in the first place
Yes, there was no sarcasm in my post. Your only 'crime' is being honest.
rarely do i post here, but i must say that ive seen jrod online and some of his videos and can honestly beleive this guy is completely natural. He is just VERY VERY dedicated, the guy is obsessed when it comes to bodybuilding and is super lean year round. People dont realize that as a natural, if you train your ass off, and eat right and stay lean, you will look pretty amazing, thus people will think you are on steroids.
2 years back, before an injury i had, i was NOT natural, but was on a H.R.T. dose of 200mg of test enanthate per week and was able to get to 235 lbs at about 7% bodyfat, and people thought i was on a boatload of drugs. Never mind the fact that i NEVER missed a workout training 5 days a week, for 2 hours per session and that my diet was on POINT!! Its amazing what discipline in regards to diet and training will do for anybody whether they are natural or not!!
Jayrod, tell these guys how much you end up weighing when you are onstage. If you were on drugs youd be in the 200's. People are just hating bro, I wouldnt even bother posting here or replying to these people, they will just bring out the worst in you and then you end up finding yourself replying to these haters and stooping to their level.
From my understanding you step on stage at under 200 lbs. So much for being on drugs. Oh and as far as calves, i totally understand what you are saying, i train them diligently and they wont grow all that much, but have gotten some good shape to them, oh well. Again, fuck these haters bro, keep on keepng on.!!!!!
-c
he doesn't look bigger than me, HE IS !Stavios you seem like a really cool dude. I was fucking with gh15.
lol !!
and as much as I like Jrod I do not believe the natural status, no offense to him.
Still a big fan of him tho
I don't compare myself with Jrod, I compare myself with the old myself, and improvements are coming just fine 8)
don't believe you're drug free, but I'd do ya.
now stop peaking way before these contests
At least you admit it , respect , and good luck at the Universe .
Stavios you seem like a really cool dude. I was fucking with gh15.
I'm working on that, but haven't perfected it yet. I've always made myself err on the side of being "too lean" (if there is such a thing).
rarely do i post here, but i must say that ive seen jrod online and some of his videos and can honestly beleive this guy is completely natural. He is just VERY VERY dedicated, the guy is obsessed when it comes to bodybuilding and is super lean year round. People dont realize that as a natural, if you train your ass off, and eat right and stay lean, you will look pretty amazing, thus people will think you are on steroids.
2 years back, before an injury i had, i was NOT natural, but was on a H.R.T. dose of 200mg of test enanthate per week and was able to get to 235 lbs at about 7% bodyfat, and people thought i was on a boatload of drugs. Never mind the fact that i NEVER missed a workout training 5 days a week, for 2 hours per session and that my diet was on POINT!! Its amazing what discipline in regards to diet and training will do for anybody whether they are natural or not!!
Jayrod, tell these guys how much you end up weighing when you are onstage. If you were on drugs youd be in the 200's. People are just hating bro, I wouldnt even bother posting here or replying to these people, they will just bring out the worst in you and then you end up finding yourself replying to these haters and stooping to their level.
From my understanding you step on stage at under 200 lbs. So much for being on drugs. Oh and as far as calves, i totally understand what you are saying, i train them diligently and they wont grow all that much, but have gotten some good shape to them, oh well. Again, fuck these haters bro, keep on keepng on.!!!!!
-c
he doesn't look bigger than me, HE IS !
lol !!
and as much as I like Jrod I do not believe the natural status, no offense to him.
Still a big fan of him tho
I don't compare myself with Jrod, I compare myself with the old myself, and improvements are coming just fine 8)
I'm working on that, but haven't perfected it yet. I've always made myself err on the side of being "too lean" (if there is such a thing). If I overdiet a bit, I'll still look good (but not perfect); but if I under diet, I will probably look more natural... Regardless, I'm trying to figure it all out, improving upon what I've done each time.
I think one thing that might help is doing a show a few weeks before TU to gauge my progress. I tell myself I'm going to do this pretty much every year, but always find myself so focused on just TU that I never actually do it.
by the way ,,notice what hapen to his jaw line,,remember platz? rememebr how his jaw line looked from aas and hgh? some fellas cant hide it because you cant cut the jaw ...like avoiding bitch tits with masterona or ai....jaws and thickness of skin never lies
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have you eaten pizza within the last couple years?
last i heard you didn't eat any for like 4 years
you get a lot of chicks with that bod, stud?
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Thats how it should be. You may or may NOT be ACTUALLY bigger than me. Who the fuck cares and what does it really matter. Its not like we are competing in the same show anyways (I'll probably never see you in my life).
jrod can you offer a hypothesis to explain the following scenario?
Every night I go to the gym and see the same 10-15 people. Most of them are significantly older than me (and I've been lifting for almost a decade!), and have enough development to tell me they've probably been chugging their "periworkout" nutrition and killing the giant sets for quite some time. They also all look like shit.
What gives ???
I wish my calves were bigger. I have (and continue) to try to get them to grow, but I think no matter what my genetics for calves suck and they're never gonna catch up (I'll keep trying though). Oh well, fuck my calves.
Even if we meet, I will be glad to shake your hand 8)
you are an inspiration man, good luck for your show !
I don't really know what you're talking about. But who cares about those same 10-15 people. I don't know the answer to that; maybe there is a personal trainer at your gym who you could ask about that.
time for dictionary calfraises then, they will grow. each leg 5 min, no socks! full strech at bottom hold it, all the way up and tense. they will respond to this, they must. its agony city, harder than squats.
Well you say that what makes you special is your dedication and refusal to do drugs... in fact, that's always what all "naturals" say when people start questioning them. But it's obvious that dedication is not lacking. Every gym you go to, you will see plenty of "regulars" who have been breaking their backs day in day out for years, if not decades. With or without drugs, 95% of these people don't have the size you do, and 99.9999% of them will never reach the condition.
Your dedication is not unique. There are countless guys out there who, once they get a taste of bodybuilding success, are hooked like addicts -- it's not even a question of "dedication." You couldn't pay them to stay out of the gym.
It's not dedication. It's not genetics (according to you). So uh, what is it?
Well you say that what makes you special is your dedication and refusal to do drugs... in fact, that's always what all "naturals" say when people start questioning them. But it's obvious that dedication is not lacking. Every gym you go to, you will see plenty of "regulars" who have been breaking their backs day in day out for years, if not decades. With or without drugs, 95% of these people don't have the size you do, and 99.9999% of them will never reach the condition.
Your dedication is not unique. There are countless guys out there who, once they get a taste of bodybuilding success, are hooked like addicts -- it's not even a question of "dedication." You couldn't pay them to stay out of the gym.
It's not dedication. It's not genetics (according to you). So uh, what is it?
You think so? I think I would be delusional to think my calves are going to get "big". Big relative to the rest of my physique that is; they're always gonna be weak, but I can make them BETTER than they were. If I could change where they inserted then I could make them seem more appropriate. I'm not gonna bring a dictionary to the gym, I'm leaving my shoes on. I do seated calf raises, though, and I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I dont even really care that much anyways. I train my calves and everything, its not like I dislike training them. But if they don't grow, so be it; its not the end of the world, and I can still have a physique I like even without big calves.
Hey bro.. What was the show you won again? I didn't get it when you told everyone,and showed the pics?
who said to bring dictionary to the gym, its a home workout, dont be stubborn, like you said they dont grow in the gym, time to try something new, you will notice huge diffrence. If you gonna use calf raises machine, after each set, do a 2 min stretch at the bottom with some heavy weight, will grow from that. You can do 1000 of pounds reps on the machine they wont grow on you. Focus on the dictionary like i said at home , its a brutal workout.
About as natural as a 105yr old mans erection, just another guy with shitty genetics who needs to lie to feel special.
TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG TEG
BTW, what sort of training routine do you have?
Hey bro.. What was the show you won again? I didn't get it when you told everyone,and showed the pics?
Fank Zane, known to be on every drug known to man back then, was at one time the best bodybuilder in the world
(http://cdn.simplyshredded.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/frank-zane-olympia-25.jpg)
"Jrod" from "Getbig" no less, Natural lifter, younger than Zane with less training under his belt
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413127;image)
Cool well in that case could you please stop talking about dedication in the future. It might save people some headaches. :)
J-Rod looks better than Zane
he come here4 to make fun of you fellas,,dont you fuckin get it? unlike others who come on their gimik he come on his name to just laugh at you believing his balonie,,its just the way it is and you got here few who actualy buy into it which if you multiple by the kids who read flex....you got good nitch to sell balonie to from true protien powders to this natural balonie
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HAHAHA, Exactly, can you imagine Jrod walking in to Golds in the 70's while Arnold, Zane, Big Lou etc were training and saying "Hey guys,Im Jrod from getbig, Ive been working out natural for 10yrs!" Arnold would have torn this lying shit stain a new one within a minute ;D
Does anyone really believe this guy looks better than the Genetic Elite from the 70's who did nothing but eat, train, inject and sleep?All while being natural?
only thing that is better on rodrigez is his ass size,,from the injections
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What the hell did you just say? Damn its hard to read your posts sometimes, I had to read it three times. Anyways, thats ok.... Tell me how to make money off this balonie nitch? More money for me = I can buy more of your testerona, masterona shit. Maybe I can hire you after my show this year for the offseason. I wanna get big as fuck, and I hear you're the go to guy around here.
No way. These people are gonna have to suffer the wrath of those headaches till they learn to stop letting stupid shit, that has no influence on their actual lives, bother them. Dont YOU do what you want on getbig? Keep doing it
I don't see how this Jrod guy can be natural. If he was really natural, and looked just half as good as that, there is no way he wouldn't use drugs. And to claim you are natural, looking like that, and also claim to have "average genetics" is just bullshit, you would need superhuman genetics to look like that without assistance. He is still human, and once your life becomes obsessed with bodybuilding, there is no "ok, let's just take it to this level, I'm not going to push it anymore" type of thinking. There is no such thing as a bodybuilder with a balanced life, the lifestyle and narcissism is too consuming.
While he can't admit to juice use to his non-bodybuilding acquaintances, he should at least wink his eye at Getbig. This is too insulting.
Well you see it actually has a huge influence on their lives when you say this stuff. People look up to you and believe what you say because of your accomplishments. They will take your advice very seriously.
They go into the gym and spend years of their lives in total misery because they truly believe that if they are dedicated enough, they can achieve what you have. You, and others like you (moody, la cour, the entire supplement industry, bodybuilding magazines, etc), are literally the cause of numerous injuries and many bad attitudes.
When you are careless with your words, you seriously damage peoples' minds. You give them more than just a simple headache.
But I appreciate that it is in your interest to do these things.
you cant,,you were not meant to be big,, you like your condtion too much ,,you are the type of fella that if his horse show get slightly blurry or if you see your ab line doesnt have the bounce when you flex...and you know exactly what i talk about...you freak and it ruin your day ..samir was just like that but atleast he was honest...
you cant be big because you are condition freak ,,and also you will be just another bodybuilder not superior condition ,,your advantage is in the sub 200lb zones where you can maintain the condition needed,,you wont look good modern ifbb big
sorry friend
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rodrigez is the type of fella that like to see lower back detail and middle back detail ,,he loses his sanity if it go watery on him im telling you ,,its freak of condition due to inability to put on enough muscular size
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You're not doing this for money. NOBODY who bodybuilds does it for money. It's for complete and total narcissism, insecurity, and/or feelings of inadequacy.
Well you see it actually has a huge influence on their lives when you say this stuff. People look up to you and believe what you say because of your accomplishments. They will take your advice very seriously.So what, any advice I've given (in the form of "this is what I've done", usually, not "this is what works) has been with the intentions of helping people. I'm trying to help those 10-15 people you were talking about.
They go into the gym and spend years of their lives in total misery because they truly believe that if they are dedicated enough, they can achieve what you have. You, and others like you (moody, la cour, the entire supplement industry, bodybuilding magazines, etc), are literally the cause of numerous injuries and many bad attitudes.Why do they keep going to the gym and spending their whole lives in misery? The the fuck are these people. You're delusional. I'm not Michael Jordan here, do you know how many people actually look up to me (if any, its probably very little). You're making me feel so big here. Come on, I'm not that important. I think you should tone down your perception of that value of my stock here, its not worth as much as you're thinking. [/quote]
When you are careless with your words, you seriously damage peoples' minds. You give them more than just a simple headache.
But I appreciate that it is in your interest to do these things.
very good ,,very true ,,and its not right to do it to bunch of goolible kids that like bodybuilding,,honesty will get you far but they dont care they just think about how to make their rent and enough money so they can beg me for some gh
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Why do they keep going to the gym and spending their whole lives in misery? The the fuck are these people. You're delusional.
I'm not Michael Jordan here, do you know how many people actually look up to me (if any, its probably very little). You're making me feel so big here. Come on, I'm not that important. I think you should tone down your perception of that value of my stock here, its not worth as much as you're thinking.
They spend their lives in misery because YOU are telling them they can have everything they want if they just TRIED HARDER. SEE? It makes them think they are inadequate. It lowers their self esteem. It's not like they just forgot to flip the fucking "happy switch." You're filling their minds with ideas they have no control over, which ruin them.
Like I said, it's not just you, but you are doing your part to perpetuate this shit. Of course you know this... of course it is in your interest.
http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&=&q=jrod%20bodybuilding&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1#hl=en&biw=1833&bih=796&sa=X&ei=mwTKTb3yAurdiALm1-n6BA&ved=0CBgQBSgA&q=jeff+rodriguez+bodybuilding&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=44b3839bd44fe786good post
"just going through my everyday existence"
well, apparently that entails giving boatloads of bodybuilding advice, interviews, doing documented shows, etc.
all of which are widely disseminated throughout the bodybuilding community. people read and listen to the things you say. of course it's not just you -- you have countless affiliates in this fucked up industry.
you think people aren't miserable? you think they aren't sick in the head? go to t-nation. go to bodybuilding.com. go to your local highschool and college gyms. go to your local health club. there are many sick, frustrated people. it is undeniable. the success of the supplement industry is a testament to this fact. the perpetuation of bodybuilding magazines is a testament to this fact. THAT PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOUR ADVICE is a testament to this fact.
Tell me the kid stuffing 5000 calories a day and chugging 3 gallons of water and doing x and y because he read it on liebuilding.com ISN'T MISERABLE. He wants nothing more than to overcome his failings and get the body he wants. He's desperate and he'll try anything. These kids are everywhere and while you can be as glib as you want on this board, you can't in good conscience deny it. You've seen them. We all have. Most of us have been them at one point.
http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&=&q=jrod%20bodybuilding&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1#hl=en&biw=1833&bih=796&sa=X&ei=mwTKTb3yAurdiALm1-n6BA&ved=0CBgQBSgA&q=jeff+rodriguez+bodybuilding&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=44b3839bd44fe786
"just going through my everyday existence"
well, apparently that entails giving boatloads of bodybuilding advice, interviews, doing documented shows, etc.
all of which are widely disseminated throughout the bodybuilding community. people read and listen to the things you say. of course it's not just you -- you have countless affiliates in this fucked up industry.
you think people aren't miserable? you think they aren't sick in the head? go to t-nation. go to bodybuilding.com. go to your local highschool and college gyms. go to your local health club. there are many sick, frustrated people. it is undeniable. the success of the supplement industry is a testament to this fact. the perpetuation of bodybuilding magazines is a testament to this fact. THAT PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOUR ADVICE is a testament to this fact.
Tell me the kid stuffing 5000 calories a day and chugging 3 gallons of water and doing x and y because he read it on liebuilding.com ISN'T MISERABLE. He wants nothing more than to overcome his failings and get the body he wants. He's desperate and he'll try anything. These kids are everywhere and while you can be as glib as you want on this board, you can't in good conscience deny it. You've seen them. We all have. Most of us have been them at one point.
Settle down there, warrior. You're gonna give yourself one of those headaches if you don't calm yourself.S'up bro.. ? GH1% never has a kind word.. He believes everything that he can't do,can only be done by cheating.. He has a crew of c0cksuckers that lick every brown crust left around his ass button as well.. Amazing how someone who claims to be so brutally honest,isn't honest about who he is,and what he's done!?
palookaville classic, finished 3rd out of 3Really..!? You finished Turd,my flend!? Maricon..
just finished fucking your mom bro
S'up bro.. ? GH1% never has a kind word.. He believes everything that he can't do,can only be done by cheating.. He has a crew of c0cksuckers that lick every brown crust left around his ass button as well.. Amazing how someone who claims to be so brutally honest,isn't honest about who he is,and what he's done!?
Good thing is...you're here defending yourself,and doing a damn good job.. ! Keep it up Mr. Rodriguez..These Phags will never step on stage,will rip a Pro apart ,as if they have no flaws,and have better physiques than those they judge? LOL..
Too many fruit pops in here..
rodrigez is not a pro,,no other organization exist beside npc and ifbb ,,the rest are jokes and bunch of failed wanna besI know he is no pro.. But just so we know you're not some Phony..Tell us who you are and what you've done.. So we can google you and confirm..
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I know he is no pro.. But just so we know you're not some Phony..Tell us who you are and what you've done.. So we can google you and confirm..
i ssaid it million time top 6 o ,,it doesnt matter who i am ,,what matter is the word out of the mouth i speak,,those liars try to sell you illusion ,,skippi lacour made lots of money on you ....and all those lizards rodrigez and lay nortom all try to follow it,,they lie to you inorder to make a buck,,
now you can be ok with it and not give a fuck ,, but! there are many youngester that will ruin big part of their life by trying to do it truly naturaly and ill lose friends,,will hurt themselves,,will get mental problems ,,will skip school ,,abd be stuck in place and only realize it later on when they read the bible when they come on getbig once they are 22....
be careful with what you read out of the so call naturals,,none of them is natural
a true natural rodrigez would be 155lb 7% on a good day!
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rodrigez ,,you are on getbig.com this is the utmost in yrou face site on the internet bodybuilding history ,,here you dont balonie around,,here you only hear the truth and in your face,,thats why this site is known as the THUNDERDOME of bodybuilding,,Sorry I'm fucking up the flow of your thunderdome, throwing my balonie all around. Want me to stop?
thats why we have most pros here under gimick and under real names thats why all the npc is here,,thats why the judges are here...this is the cnn of the bodybuilding industry,,no other site even come remotely close,,Are you serious? Oh shit, what do I do now?
now,,you havent met my heynas yetOh damn, you have heynas? what fuck are those? that sounds illegal. I have three dogs, but no heynas. [/quote]
Why don't you come down to New Jersey and cheer me on in July for my show. Bring me a GH15 shirt and I'll wear it. "GETBIG NATURAL, GH15 APPROVED"
JRod seems like a good dude especially when he's humoring and owning the shit out of our resident idiot savant "GH15".
S'up bro.. ? GH1% never has a kind word.. He believes everything that he can't do,can only be done by cheating.. He has a crew of c0cksuckers that lick every brown crust left around his ass button as well.. Amazing how someone who claims to be so brutally honest,isn't honest about who he is,and what he's done!?
Good thing is...you're here defending yourself,and doing a damn good job.. ! Keep it up Mr. Rodriguez..These Phags will never step on stage,will rip a Pro apart ,as if they have no flaws,and have better physiques than those they judge? LOL..
Too many fruit pops in here..
lastly ,, take a comparison between the leaf boy from this boarding and this rodirigez fella,,it will show you ever5ything i mean ,,leaf boy taring himself a new asshole and on the hormones...he has as good as physiqe as rodrigez only les less time in bodybuild and less knowledge of dialing in ...but take a look at how they both look when few weeks out....similar in many ways...similar skin toning,,similar thickness,,similar density ,,similar everything aside from rodrigez gas bigger diamater to the muscle due to more years of doing the so call 'natural' thing...while the other leaf fella admit to the truth ,,
this is why i cant stand the natural liars,,they will stop at nothing only to make a few bucks on your back,,they would really lie about anything
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if you're looking for fanboys, Bay lives in your neck-of-the-woods. i'm willing to bet he'll cheer you on, and bring his hammer.
i ssaid it million time top 6 o ,,it doesnt matter who i am ,,what matter is the word out of the mouth i speak,,those liars try to sell you illusion ,,skippi lacour made lots of money on you ....and all those lizards rodrigez and lay nortom all try to follow it,,they lie to you inorder to make a buck,,What does it matter if Mr.Rodriguez is being untruthful!? It does not make me any more rich,or less poor.. It does matter absolutely, who you are .... You give drug advice ..!? For all we know,you're killing these people with the advice you're giving ?!?
now you can be ok with it and not give a fuck ,, but! there are many youngester that will ruin big part of their life by trying to do it truly naturaly and ill lose friends,,will hurt themselves,,will get mental problems ,,will skip school ,,abd be stuck in place and only realize it later on when they read the bible when they come on getbig once they are 22....
be careful with what you read out of the so call naturals,,none of them is natural
a true natural rodrigez would be 155lb 7% on a good day!
gh15 approved
http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&=&q=jrod%20bodybuilding&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1#hl=en&biw=1833&bih=796&sa=X&ei=mwTKTb3yAurdiALm1-n6BA&ved=0CBgQBSgA&q=jeff+rodriguez+bodybuilding&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=44b3839bd44fe786
"just going through my everyday existence"
well, apparently that entails giving boatloads of bodybuilding advice, interviews, doing documented shows, etc.
all of which are widely disseminated throughout the bodybuilding community. people read and listen to the things you say. of course it's not just you -- you have countless affiliates in this fucked up industry.
you think people aren't miserable? you think they aren't sick in the head? go to t-nation. go to bodybuilding.com. go to your local highschool and college gyms. go to your local health club. there are many sick, frustrated people. it is undeniable. the success of the supplement industry is a testament to this fact. the perpetuation of bodybuilding magazines is a testament to this fact. THAT PEOPLE LISTEN TO YOUR ADVICE is a testament to this fact.
Tell me the kid stuffing 5000 calories a day and chugging 3 gallons of water and doing x and y because he read it on liebuilding.com ISN'T MISERABLE. He wants nothing more than to overcome his failings and get the body he wants. He's desperate and he'll try anything. These kids are everywhere and while you can be as glib as you want on this board, you can't in good conscience deny it. You've seen them. We all have. Most of us have been them at one point.
You're damn right about that!
No, of course not, I am a skinny/small bitch thats just trying to get big. I'm sure there are PLENTY of people who have as good or better genetics than me, the thing is, who the hell wants to 1) be a bodybuilder and 2) stay natural when they realize they have decent potential and 3) be dedicated for years. I think its the combination of all that which is more rare than my actual genetics.
There are plenty of other "natural" or guys out there with great genetics. Maybe they just don't post on getbig cause they don't like being called liars (I dont give a shit, so its ok).
Anyways, I'm sure there is some guy out there who eats like shit, doesn't lift weights, etc. but could kick my ass on stage if he trained and ate as consistently and dedicated as I do (plus he would have better calves).
GH 15 truly tells it like it isStop acting like a hummusexual.
thankgod for truth in this sport becos of GH 15
JrodIs it me,or do you bring darkness in to every thread you enter?
exhibiting those classic chipmunk cheeks of testosterone h20 retention
you cant fool everyone Jrod
too many folks on this site have been around BB too long
keep lying like La cour, norton etc
karma's a bitch- itll catch up with you one day
see what im saying rodrigez...No sir...They know drugs! This is exactly why it will never be taken seriously.. Too many junkies... !!!!
it started
they knwo bodybuild very very well here,,they like to fuck around but many of them know bodybuild very very well ,,many competitors and not only locals,,
you invited it lol
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ahahahahahahha about as natural as a cock flavoured popsicle.
gh in there for sure, look at the skin, look at the fullness thru the delts into the chest- and this guy starves himself year round on a diet that is prolly spartan as fuck- the fact he holds any kind of fullness as a natural at this bf level screams gh. tren- but lower doses nothing crazy- maybe 25-50mg a day for the same reason, and the hardness too- you dont carry the grainy look/ hardness of a big mg tren user, but you dont exactly want that either... something about it also screams anavar to me. var for sure. NPP too- maybe claymore can chime on this. all low dose though, even the gh id say is low dose.
yeah that looks about right- gh/ tren/npp/var
see what im saying rodrigez...
it started
they knwo bodybuild very very well here,,they like to fuck around but many of them know bodybuild very very well ,,many competitors and not only locals,,
you invited it lol
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The hate is heavy in this thread Mr.Rodriguez!? GH1% is 2 waying his homies.. Sh!ts getting thick!?
Hahaha... shit is getting thick!Easy brotha... One of these h0mo's get killed,then they show up at your show.... Then what? Too many snitches on this site..!
I'm about to be on "the first 48", Bay Area episode. GH15 will be the first suspect interviewed.
Easy brotha... One of these h0mo's get killed,then they show up at your show.... Then what? Too many snitches on this site..!
lmao a bunch of clowns claiming natural
theres guy's who don't look as good as you mr.natural jrod n are on lots of aas .....
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I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years. I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting. Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self ( and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years. I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting. Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self ( and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years. I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting. Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self ( and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
this unfortunately is one of the naive getbiggers who believe liars like rodriguez, lorton, lacour, moody etc etc
this unfortunately is one of the naive getbiggers who believe liars like rodriguez, lorton, lacour, moody etc etc
All chicken breast, broccoli and full range of motion.
why all the lies?
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.
why all the lies?I agree.. They think were idiots or something. But is the "natural status" makes them feel good about themselves...oh well.
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.
why all the lies?Calm down Gloria,it`s really not that serious!!
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.
Calm down Gloria,it`s really not that serious!!
Meltdown of epic proportions for Christs sake. ;D
And sleep. So I gotta go to sleep. I got a big day of fucking up the GH15 army, etc. crew tomorrow.
Jrod, are you lifetime natty? what about prohormones? are your shows drug tested, polygraphed?
I don't know Jrod personally but yes I do think he could be natural. I don't get it, why can't people that train ( or pretend like they train ) understand that what you do in the gym matters, what you eat matters, your sleep quality matters. You could be busting your ass in the gym 6 days a week and spinning your fucking wheels because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are doing. There is a guy I see in my gym that comes in every week and does 3 sets of 4 with 245 on the bench .He has been doing this for at least 3 fucking years. I kid you not, every fucking time he comes in to train chest he does 3 sets with 245 for 4 reps, I have started noticing it 3 years ago so for all I know he could have been doing for 10years. Guess what, he looks the same way he did three years ago, not bigger, not smaller, absolutely the same. Now you show a picture of Jrod to guy like that and I won't be surprised he will say STEROIDS. I swear there are people here that have absolutely no clue what takes it to get past the initial gains that you get during your first year of lifting. Every once in a while you will see threads that say it doesn't matter how you train, it doesn't matter how you eat you will hit your genetic limit. Are you fucking kidding me, doesn't matter? At all ? Not even a little bit? And you are saying that Jrod is fucking with people's minds by giving them false hope on what can be accomplished? How about telling a young kid that the only way for him to get bigger and stronger is through a syringe, as long as he can afford it of course, after that sorry bud your'e fucked, kill yourself now because if don't use all this shit that I am selling you will shrink to your former self ( and that's the only real truth that the kid will get out of that). And don't bring Frank Zane into this bullshit, it was 40 years ago, things progress as time goes on, technology, health care, etc., as time goes by things improve and become more efficient, people find ways to achive more on less that's how we progress as a human race.
what you don't understand is a lot of people here tried the retarded "natural" route and worked 10 times harder than they do while on the juice and didn't even find a fraction of the results.
you can look good natural, if you have the right genetics for shape! you can look big without the t-shirt on standing alone in pictures... but when you put on that S-size shirt and look like a somalian refugee, you realize you suck ass.
biggest mistake i've ever done was waste 4 years training natural and obsessing about food and training and supplementation...
when you're an honest dude, and in a country where juice is fucking legal, and people see you in the gym and ask "you look a bit softer and you look tired, you alright?" and you say "yeah, i'm off the juice now... i hate training when i'm off"... you will get a swarm of those fucking "naturals" coming to you as you leave the gym and take you where no one can hear and say "dude, i'm on 750 mg test, and around 600 mg eq... is that a good cycle for me? i've tried masterone and tren before, but you know, i had some problems with the little man so i decided not to use them... and what do you think about GH? i used 4 iu before and i think it was fake"...
people who know the truth about this bodybuilding shit know that:
training like "an animal" in the gym and knowing the "correct way to train" while carrying around your tupperware like a clown = dumb ass who'll never see anything over 160 lbs 7% fat looking like a heroin addict
using aas, training like a maniac and carrying your chicken breasts with you where ever you go while keeping your emergency protein powder+ waxy maize+shaker bottle in the trunk of your car just in case = some good results while being retarded and wasting time, effort and money
just train, eat whatever you want in a smart way, take juice, use fat burners and GH = looking big at low bodyfat percentage (under 12%) all the time and getting below 6% by upping the drugs, fat burners and GH and cleaning up the diet for 2-4 weeks.
people with experience know that
people in denial and really want to believe that they have failed because of genetics or effort are the people who believe this shit in this thread.
i will tell you exactly why friend,,the human body has limits of how much muscle it can carry in suprior condition ,,it is a lmit applied to all humans no matter color race anything of the such,,this limit runs at the 10lb zone for naturals...aka they can differ from eachother 10lb max when all in top condition NATURALLY due to bone ...frame...etc again i am talking same condition truly natural bodybuild 10 lb difference for same heights same bf%
now,, the most importa thing to remember is what true natural spot...and this is highly imprtant for the true natural among yourselves,,the ones who dont lie ,,few of them around but i feel for them ,,their numbers are being surpassed by hormonized liars and their numbers should be proudly presented for all to see for their great achievments,,
those numbers are..
5'10 180 lb 8% bodyfat....
6'2 200lb 6% bodyfat
5'7 145-150lb 6% bodyfat
those are the fellas who need be soluted for their dedication and no surrender to temtation ,,not the liars around you that floded the cult,,its shame for you to bring up new technics in the last 30 years ...because there are NONE ,,only diff is then there was only aas and now there is bnunch of hormones aside from aas inaddition to aas... thats the ONLLLLY diff,,
food is food ,,back then it was BETTER food more organic ...more simple..
some of you fellas really lost your head,,really really living in a dream land where you try to lie and for what? you dont gain anything ,,you dont make money from this ..you are not sagi kalev ,,you are not top models that grace covers all over the world ..you dont have the face to go with the body,,so why the lies? to prove to jen the 19 year old that you met on the beach that you were born geneticaly gifted? dont you think jenny knows you selling her balonie because jenny has a girlfriend that is married to a true bodybuilder,,or will have a girlfriend that date a true bodybuilder...that will be hones with her,,,dont you understand that jenny at the end of the day will figure out that you cant go to sleep with her same times because you are on high from the trenbolona and cant fall asleep? dont you understand she will get it when she find out you want to hump her every day 5 times a day and she dont want to do it...dont you understand jenny will at the end try to move in with you and be in your life and will figure out things and then will kick your sorry ass away because you lied to her all this time and kept your mouth shut?
you americano fellas really think you fool anyone? do you really think she wont be able to use steroids to police if something happen ....you think by you not tellin her you inject hormones she will just be like ok he is all natual ...i can see his muscles are very visible and he maintain lots of size but he was just working very hard ...how long will you be able to sell it to jenny? 2 months? if she dont get it after then jenny will never get anythign and is not worthy of consideration as a girlfriend...because she is dumb and wil be dumb about many things not steroid related
how much do you think you can walk around smiling at the true natural laughin at him behind your back because you are 10lb bigger lieing to everyone you are natural yet on turinabol ,,,oxandrolone,,halodrol,,who do you thin you are fooling?
you really think people are dumb thats the problem,,people are not dumb ,,
the only time to not talk abotu hormones is when you train a client and some fellas come around and say ...hey how do you get your waist so small thats what i wanna know...and then tell you oh my buddy is a bodybuilder you have very high ork morals and consistancy yada dee yada daa...thats hen you smile and say you eat fish all day as a quick get out BECAUSE YOU ARE TRAINING A CLIENT AND DONT ANT TO MAKE A SCENE IN GYM
but the reality of things is this....and listen closely mr posting originator...
today 40 year old women....that train in gyms and come to tone up a bit ...getting fed up with ANAVAR BY THEIR TRAINERS,,THATY CHARGE THEM 500 BUCKS FOR 100 PILLS..DO YOU FUCKIN KNOW THAT?? WHY DONT YOU ASK MICHAEL ARVILLA IF HE KNOWS ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT IN AMERICANA ,,
many of you are ignorant,,many of you feed your clients and im talkin about bodybuilders that feed their client drugs like oxandrolone ..women who dotn want drugs but you want them to get results and too lasy to train them right ...so you feed them some anavar..and those omen take it 40 year old house wives nurses that just want to become 120 insted of 127 .... and yet you feed them this balonie,,so WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU LIEING TO>??????
40 year old girls using anavar that rarely even touch or experienced with weight ...
you got her ebunch of stinky liars that are mentaly ill,,
really shame
gh15 approved
No disrespect, Buselmo ::), but just because you have shit genetics and need DRUGS to look like Jrod's fat brother, doesn't mean that everyone is restricted by your limitations. After attacking Mr. Rod I realized that his weight and height are within reason as 5'9" at 175 lb is not very impressive. Even at 3% bodyfat.
What you don't realize is that the bodybuilders of the 70s ate at the Smorgasborg, they ate like shit, and that's why they needed all the drugs. Modern natural bodybuilders have the benefit of nutrient timing science, better protein powders (some of the whey technology available today was not available back then), and superior exercise physiology knowledge. Have you seen how Arnold and Ed Corney used to squat? Nothing compared to modern squat technique.
i will tell you exactly why friend,,the human body has limits of how much muscle it can carry in suprior condition ,,it is a lmit applied to all humans no matter color race anything of the such,,this limit runs at the 10lb zone for naturals...aka they can differ from eachother 10lb max when all in top condition NATURALLY due to bone ...frame...etc again i am talking same condition truly natural bodybuild 10 lb difference for same heights same bf%
now,, the most importa thing to remember is what true natural spot...and this is highly imprtant for the true natural among yourselves,,the ones who dont lie ,,few of them around but i feel for them ,,their numbers are being surpassed by hormonized liars and their numbers should be proudly presented for all to see for their great achievments,,
those numbers are..
5'10 180 lb 8% bodyfat....
6'2 200lb 6% bodyfat
5'7 145-150lb 6% bodyfat
those are the fellas who need be soluted for their dedication and no surrender to temtation ,,not the liars around you that floded the cult,,its shame for you to bring up new technics in the last 30 years ...because there are NONE ,,only diff is then there was only aas and now there is bnunch of hormones aside from aas inaddition to aas... thats the ONLLLLY diff,,
food is food ,,back then it was BETTER food more organic ...more simple..
some of you fellas really lost your head,,really really living in a dream land where you try to lie and for what? you dont gain anything ,,you dont make money from this ..you are not sagi kalev ,,you are not top models that grace covers all over the world ..you dont have the face to go with the body,,so why the lies? to prove to jen the 19 year old that you met on the beach that you were born geneticaly gifted? dont you think jenny knows you selling her balonie because jenny has a girlfriend that is married to a true bodybuilder,,or will have a girlfriend that date a true bodybuilder...that will be hones with her,,,dont you understand that jenny at the end of the day will figure out that you cant go to sleep with her same times because you are on high from the trenbolona and cant fall asleep? dont you understand she will get it when she find out you want to hump her every day 5 times a day and she dont want to do it...dont you understand jenny will at the end try to move in with you and be in your life and will figure out things and then will kick your sorry ass away because you lied to her all this time and kept your mouth shut?
you americano fellas really think you fool anyone? do you really think she wont be able to use steroids to police if something happen ....you think by you not tellin her you inject hormones she will just be like ok he is all natual ...i can see his muscles are very visible and he maintain lots of size but he was just working very hard ...how long will you be able to sell it to jenny? 2 months? if she dont get it after then jenny will never get anythign and is not worthy of consideration as a girlfriend...because she is dumb and wil be dumb about many things not steroid related
how much do you think you can walk around smiling at the true natural laughin at him behind your back because you are 10lb bigger lieing to everyone you are natural yet on turinabol ,,,oxandrolone,,halodrol,,who do you thin you are fooling?
you really think people are dumb thats the problem,,people are not dumb ,,
the only time to not talk abotu hormones is when you train a client and some fellas come around and say ...hey how do you get your waist so small thats what i wanna know...and then tell you oh my buddy is a bodybuilder you have very high ork morals and consistancy yada dee yada daa...thats hen you smile and say you eat fish all day as a quick get out BECAUSE YOU ARE TRAINING A CLIENT AND DONT ANT TO MAKE A SCENE IN GYM
but the reality of things is this....and listen closely mr posting originator...
today 40 year old women....that train in gyms and come to tone up a bit ...getting fed up with ANAVAR BY THEIR TRAINERS,,THATY CHARGE THEM 500 BUCKS FOR 100 PILLS..DO YOU FUCKIN KNOW THAT?? WHY DONT YOU ASK MICHAEL ARVILLA IF HE KNOWS ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT IN AMERICANA ,,
many of you are ignorant,,many of you feed your clients and im talkin about bodybuilders that feed their client drugs like oxandrolone ..women who dotn want drugs but you want them to get results and too lasy to train them right ...so you feed them some anavar..and those omen take it 40 year old house wives nurses that just want to become 120 insted of 127 .... and yet you feed them this balonie,,so WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU LIEING TO>??????
40 year old girls using anavar that rarely even touch or experienced with weight ...
you got her ebunch of stinky liars that are mentaly ill,,
really shame
gh15 approved
Yep, naive as 4 year old, case closed. Only one way to look at this one boys. No worries GH15 we got this one for you, our fearless leader.
Some people just dont have the genetics. I suggest they just Stick to staying healthy.
As for GH's natural limit. The "Rodriguez" guy is pretty close to the number he suggested of 5'10 180lbs at 8%.
Rodriguez is what, 5'9-10 175lbs at 4-5% come competition time? that's not that far from his own statement of the natural limit.
Army of one just comes off as a failed and bitter young lad. Cheer up big guy, they have drugs that can help you deal with depression too.
No disrespect, Buselmo ::), but just because you have shit genetics and need DRUGS to look like Jrod's fat brother, doesn't mean that everyone is restricted by your limitations. After attacking Mr. Rod I realized that his weight and height are within reason as 5'9" at 175 lb is not very impressive. Even at 3% bodyfat.
What you don't realize is that the bodybuilders of the 70s ate at the Smorgasborg, they ate like shit, and that's why they needed all the drugs. Modern natural bodybuilders have the benefit of nutrient timing science, better protein powders (some of the whey technology available today was not available back then), and superior exercise physiology knowledge. Have you seen how Arnold and Ed Corney used to squat? Nothing compared to modern squat technique.
No disrespect, Buselmo ::), but just because you have shit genetics and need DRUGS to look like Jrod's fat brother, doesn't mean that everyone is restricted by your limitations. After attacking Mr. Rod I realized that his weight and height are within reason as 5'9" at 175 lb is not very impressive. Even at 3% bodyfat.Strange.
What you don't realize is that the bodybuilders of the 70s ate at the Smorgasborg, they ate like shit, and that's why they needed all the drugs. Modern natural bodybuilders have the benefit of nutrient timing science, better protein powders (some of the whey technology available today was not available back then), and superior exercise physiology knowledge. Have you seen how Arnold and Ed Corney used to squat? Nothing compared to modern squat technique.
Strange.
Ever since I totally stopped using whey protein and focused on eating more food I'm making my best gains ever. ???
If you think that powders, exercise techniques or nutrient timing can add even 2 pounds of muscle then you are naive! Of course nobody really believes this. It doesn't really matter what natural does, as long as he shows effort and does this for a long time then he will get very near to what his limits are.
Drugs or not, Jrod has elite bodybuilding genetics.
here... let's give these dumb asses a little example...
after 4 years of training, dieting like a maniac, carrying my tupperware to college and eating cold chicken breasts, tuna, boiled potatoes... dieting for nearly 8 months to get ready... my best was 165 lbs at 8-10% fat (this was after 3 runs of prohormones (androsteindiol with 19-norandro for 6 weeks, M1T for 4 weeks 9 months before the comp and hitting 200 lbs with a 38 inch waist, superdrol 2 or 4 weeks out (i don't remember)) ... and i was only at that body weight because of the prohormones... i'm 5'7 btw...
the guy next to me is on the sauce btw... i know this because i'm very good friends with his dealer, who is my dealer also... and when i told him i think he's natural he laughed and said "if you only knew... I sold him the stuff to get ready"
the last pic is exactly 15 months later... 20 lbs heavier and leaner... My diet was bullshit that a trainer wrote up for me (don't want to mention his name cuz i don't need any drama here) and i was surprised how a diet like that would get me lean and big like this...
even the training... when he explained how i should train and how little cardio i should do is said "are you serious? that's it?"...
and now you know... idiots. (i only say that because i was one at one time)
This is also true...but he says he has 'average' genetics... ::)
Here is some perspective for you. Here are pics from my first show (trophy one). The side triceps is from my second show a week later. These were from 2005, I had been training for 4 years. I weighed in at around 174 lbs. at the Contra Costa that year.
The next pic is from the offseason of 2007 (6 years of training).
Last pic is from 2001, right before I started lifting.
Finally, this pic is from a few days ago, 9 weeks out. I've worked my way up from the previous pics, to this, in 10 years.
Sporting some staggering 17 ish inch arms, 24-25 inch thighs, 31-32 inch waist, and maybe a 45 inch chest!
Looking on track J-Rod!
...This thread's been entertaining ;D
But responding to GH15 & his nuthuggers can be like pissing into the wind...Don't let their negativity distract you from the job ahead!
Finally, this pic is from a few days ago, 9 weeks out. I've worked my way up from the previous pics, to this, in 10 years.You look great... ! A lot of hate,jealousy and envy in this thread..
Sporting some staggering 17 ish inch arms, 24-25 inch thighs, 31-32 inch waist, and maybe a 45 inch chest, all at a height of 5'9"!
the diff between 8 and 4 % is enormous
gh15 approved
Cool well in that case could you please stop talking about dedication in the future. It might save people some headaches. :)
this is the reason those fellas keep lieng and working as so call natural ,,for people such as the one who wrote this posting who have no faith in nothing,,scream all day long genetics = everything..which is simpy not the case,,rodrigez genetics is average at best coudnt even get to 160lb 6% naturaly its a promise! his phsyiqe is reesult of years on hormones and dedication as in didnt give up and responded average to hormones so decided he ould go the natual way and work on quality rather than size,,rodrigez doesnt hold size well ..he loses all lines,,his body is not meant to be big thus why being so call natural
gh15 approved
Calm down Gloria,it`s really not that serious!!not melting down here...
Meltdown of epic proportions for Christs sake. ;D
its funny how Jrod is getting under the skin of the juicers here, these guys are really pissed. While the nattys either dont respond or give him props. Why you guys so mad? If anything the natties should be pissed saying " hey how come I dont look like that?".
i thikn when van b read this all posting he will be sitting in sweden puking on his computer with some of the natural claims going on here,,really ,, 175lb 5'8 or 5'9 at 4% is not even CLOSELY ...not even remotely close to 5'10 180 8% lol what are you fellas nuts? the diff between 8 and 4 % is enormous if its fat and not water,,
why do you thin you tell jrod he is bigger than stavio??? because the fella stand at very low bodyfat ....so yes when you are 175lb 4% you will look bigger than 195 lb 7%...especialy when you are few inches shorter...
generally speaking both fellas same size...but in picture rodrigez look bigger because he has less bodyfat....4-6% > 6-8%
the rule in bodybuild picture = the better condition you are ...the more impressive you will look...you can make a twink look like a chizeled pro if you got the right angle and no one around him....
condition > size when it come to pictures,, and infact condition > size when it comes to anything as logn as the 2 fellas carry good amount of muscle mass aka over 180...
i can garentee you 180lb fella 5% look much better than 240lb fella 12% ...much much more impressive much muchhhh more like a bodybuilder and fitnes model and magazine look ...
gh15 approved
I don't know. Maybe because the natties here who have good genetics and work almost as hard in the gym and in the kitchen look something remotely close to JRod and believe it is possible to get there without drugs? Who knows? ???
not melting down here...
just get sick of these stupid liars.
guys like zane, or others of the golden era took boatloads of drugs to look like they did.
i guess their genetics sucked, because jrod looks like that natural!!
stupid liars....
we are all bb here, well the majority lol!
we know how difficult it is to add mass the right way , even if you respond well.
just hate liars that´s all....
These were posted a bit back:Look's awesome - bet he claims natural to right ? ::) haha... jesus, BB attracts some insecure clowns :'(
(http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee331/mazrim00/11wobdb.jpg)
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Student mistakes examples of unsolvable math problems for homework assignment and solves them
http://www.snopes.com/college/homework/unsolvable.asp
Musician finally masters extraordinarily difficult guitar part he heard on a record, only to learn the recording had been made using two guitars.
http://www.snopes.com/music/media/guitar.asp
When people are free to pursue goals unregulated by presumed limitations on what they can accomplish, they just may manage some extraordinary feats through the combined application of native talent and hard work.
I believe JRod is natural. Am I naive? So be it. In that case I wish that I was naive enough to believe that all the pros are natural. Imagine all that I could accomplish then. Some of you here think or KNOW JRod is not natural. Well, you won't accomplish much in life or get very far with that kind of attitude.
big muscles are not an accomplishment
hope this helps
Getting what ONE want is what matters. Not what YOU define as an "accomplishment". Hitting a golf ball 350 yards is not an accomplishment, running 100 meters in under 10 seconds is not an accomplishment, your post is not an accomplishement, ... you get the point.
Hope this helps
Look's awesome - bet he claims natural to right ? ::) haha... jesus, BB attracts some insecure clowns :'(
yes, yes you look great, j-rod
best of luck
You know what, when you put it like that, I do have a bit of sympathy for you and would like to take a step back from all my lies and congratulate you and acknowledge you on the effort and dedication you've put into adding mass the right way (even if that means you've just responded well). Nice job, man. Sorry about all my lies and fucking everything up for you and everyone else around here. :)
But I can't help it, so I'm not gonna stop. Just dont forget that I know how hard its been for you later on when you read one of my posts as I lie about being natural.
Well then a question; let's assume you are natural, then you have the top .00000001% genetics on the planet. What would be your advice for people who will never look 1/4 as good as you due to genetic limitations?
.00000001%? How did you arrive at this? ???
Well then a question; let's assume you are natural, then you have the top .00000001% genetics on the planet. What would be your advice for people who will never look 1/4 as good as you due to genetic limitations?
Look at him, you think those are average or even 'good' genetics; those are ultra elite genetics, even if just at the structural level, minus the calves.
Come on, Deicide, you are the same guy who demands peer reviewed scientific studies whenever someone here makes a statement like the one you just made. :)
No, because 'nutrient timing' has no overall long term effect on your physique, totally different thing.
Sure, it's just a 'feeling' but look at him, you think those are average genetics at work?
Student mistakes examples of unsolvable math problems for homework assignment and solves them
http://www.snopes.com/college/homework/unsolvable.asp
Musician finally masters extraordinarily difficult guitar part he heard on a record, only to learn the recording had been made using two guitars.
http://www.snopes.com/music/media/guitar.asp
When people are free to pursue goals unregulated by presumed limitations on what they can accomplish, they just may manage some extraordinary feats through the combined application of native talent and hard work.
I believe JRod is natural. Am I naive? So be it. In that case I wish that I was naive enough to believe that all the pros are natural. Imagine all that I could accomplish then. Some of you here think or KNOW JRod is not natural. Well, you won't accomplish much in life or get very far with that kind of attitude.
jrod - you are a cool dude who has a great physique. The negative comments on here are the beauty of this board. Everybody sucks no matter what they do. Einstein would be mocked for his haircut, or told he was on mind expanding drugs lol.
Good luck at the Universe and thanks for the great posts here.
Jrod, are you a lifetime natty? Have you tried prohormones?
I already answered that on the previous page:
No, because 'nutrient timing' has no overall long term effect on your physique, totally different thing.
Sure, it's just a 'feeling' but look at him, you think those are average genetics at work?
No genetics here, these are nothing special. I'm all drugs, my friend.
Let's see how good you guys are. Don't matter one bit to me if you are right or wrong. Credibility. That's all I care about.
What was I "on" here? We all know I'm the Photoshop King on this site, but all I did was make the pic a bit animated. No additions or altercations.
What was I on?
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Those people are also not average.
j rod already admitted he wasnt natural guys, when you ask him directly he is always going to deny it because otherwise he would get boooted from the natural bodybuilding contests he competes in.
Yes, lifetime. I've never taken any steroids, prohormones, or anything like that. Probably the "worst" thing I've ever taken was ephedra. Other than that its been whey, glutamine, creatine, beta alanine, etc., supplements like that.
Let's see how good you guys are. Don't matter one bit to me if you are right or wrong. Credibility. That's all I care about.Drugs.
What was I "on" here? We all know I'm the Photoshop King on this site, but all I did was make the pic a bit animated. No additions or altercations.
What was I on?
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/tommyboyripped.jpg)
Let's see how good you guys are. Don't matter one bit to me if you are right or wrong. Credibility. That's all I care about.
What was I "on" here? We all know I'm the Photoshop King on this site, but all I did was make the pic a bit animated. No additions or altercations.
What was I on?
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/tommyboyripped.jpg)
Ok, lemme give you the benefit of the doubt here and say 1) I'm a lying natural bitch and 2) these bunch of kids actually exist.
If you really really care so much about these kids, then why dont you just sponsor me with GH so I can stop lying to make money to pay rent each month. I can stop making the baloney money from lying my ass off because I wont need it for GH, if you give it to me, and these kids can stop getting the headaches that cyphylis was talking about.
i dont see a lot of test there- maybe a little prop. and some winstrol. actually dyslexic i see a physique built more thru hard work than drugs. if you are on anything, id say prop and winny. but not much more.
GH15 didn't respond to this post and I think that he should, because ultimately money is what motivates people. Being honest is not a luxury that everyone can afford.
Jroid,
what do you bench, squat, and deadlift if I may ask?
If that's really true then you should be proud that so many don't believe you as you're one of the greatest nattys of all time.
Jrod..how many meals a day do you eat?
At first I thought it was weird that people did not believe me, when I was younger. I cared a little bit more at that time. Now, I'm pretty much used to it, and am at peace and ok with the idea that most people will not think I'm natural. I say fuck them, there are people that are actually important to me (loved ones, family, girlfriend, friends), whose opinion of me I care about; then there are people I don't know (on the internet), people who I just cannot give enough of myself to care about whether they think I'm natural or not. Look, no matter what I say "IM ON DRUGS" or "I'M NOT ON DRUGS", the same people who think I'm natural are gonna keep thinking it, and the ones who don't will continue to think I'm not. Its all good either way. I might as well have fun with this since I'm gonna be accused anyways.
--JROID APPROVED!
Jrod, I presume you are lean all year and have a high metabolism - do you still bother with cardio when you aren't preparing for a show?
looking huge in that picture jeff ;D
Just rememeber, everyone wants to be a natural bodybuilder, but nobody wanna take no heavy ass drugs; I'll do it though.
Look badass dude!! Honestly I really don't care if you're using stuff or not. To like like that drug free or on drugs either way is awesome. You could give most all the drugs in the book and they wouldn't look this good.
Do you eat any cheat meals? If so how frequently? I find after 10-12 days I really start to crave something.
Just rememeber, everyone wants to be a natural bodybuilder, but nobody wanna take no heavy ass drugs; I'll do it though.
"sleep aid" was still legal. For any of you that had experience with that, it gave you insane munchies.
Looking natural in clothing.
Great physique though.
Not cause I have a jacket on under that shirt or anything. That jacket is super thin, I promise; I'm all beef. I'm just an all around big guy. Just rememeber, everyone wants to be a natural bodybuilder, but nobody wanna take no heavy ass drugs; I'll do it though.THIS DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. YOU LOOK SMALL AS FUCK. ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?
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THIS DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. YOU LOOK SMALL AS FUCK. ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?
Easy brotha... One of these h0mo's get killed,then they show up at your show.... Then what? Too many snitches on this site..!
What are you talking about. I'm too big to be natural. Don't you know its just a matter of time till I win the olympia. GH15 is gonna do my prep in 2013 when we take on the olympia and I end Phil Heaths Reign. Naturally, I should add!WRONG
(hey pm me if you got any ideas on how i can get big)
lol everyone you dont like you call homo, phags and so on, you sir are a dirty closet fagSOUNDS LIKE ITS TURNING YOU ON THO
THIS DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. YOU LOOK SMALL AS FUCK. ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?
Say what you want, this guy goes to a pool party, beach and makes everyone want to put their shirts back on.HALF TRUE- MAKES THE STRAIGHT DUDES PUT THEIR CLOTHES BACK ON
HALF TRUE- MAKES THE STRAIGHT DUDES PUT THEIR CLOTHES BACK ON
what's the point of being "big" if you look like shit when you take your shirt off?
jay-rodd knows the score
THIS DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE. YOU LOOK SMALL AS FUCK. ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?Can you not see the sarcasm in his posts?
DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE'LL GET HIS TINY ASS WHIPPED ;D
SEXY OR NOT.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS A BUNCH OF HOMOS? ;D
you are fat and delusionalYOU ARE JUST PLAIN RETARDED
lose weight
Sexy? Who said anything about him being sexy? :-\
You find him sexy huh, here I was thinking gay men had standards
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Jrod - looks very good. I have never seen a competitor overcome weak calves, only example was Aaron Baker and that was due to implants, check out pics of him with WBF to when he came back to IFBB, went from 14" to 20" nice.
I think Jrod is more like 5'8" so it is possible he is clean and with small joints to cause illusion. Here is great article on contest weights of naturals compiled by Leangains.com author. It is pretty accurate.
"Martin Berkhan of Leangains.com has a somewhat simpler model than Casey’s, also based on his observation of top level natural bodybuilding competitors who are contest lean (e.g. 4-5% body fat).
His equation is:
Height in centimeters - 100 = upper limit of weight in kilograms in contest shape.
So take your height in inches and multiply by 2.54, that’s your height in centimeters. Subtract 100 and that’s your predicted maximum weight in contest shape (which is 5% body fat or less for males) in kilograms. Multiply that value by 2.2 to get pounds. So let’s look at body weight at 10% body fat using the same heights I used for Casey’s calculator. I’ve also calculated out lean body mass at 10% body fat.
Height Weight at 5% Body Fat Weight at 10% Body Fat Lean Body Mass
5′8″ 160 lbs. 170 lbs. 153 lbs.
5′10″ 171 lbs. 180 lbs. 162 lbs.
6′ 182 lbs. 192 lbs. 173 lbs.
While not identical, these values are certainly right in line with Casey’s calculator. I would note that contest lean bodybuilders are often highly dehydrated and may be glycogen depleted and this will tend to lower the measurement of lean body mass. We might realistically add 5-10 pounds of lean body mass to the above values to account for dehydration/etc. With that adjustment, they are more or less identical to Casey’s values "
Link to complete article - http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html#more-2223
DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE'LL GET HIS TINY ASS WHIPPED ;D
SEXY OR NOT.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS A BUNCH OF HOMOS? ;D
You seem confused brah, I don't like men. Doesn't make me incapable of judging a mans appearance. Hope this helps cockswallower :) :-*.
You look great... ! A lot of hate,jealousy and envy in this thread..
I believe JRod is natural. Am I naive? So be it. In that case I wish that I was naive enough to believe that all the pros are natural. Imagine all that I could accomplish then. Some of you here think or KNOW JRod is not natural. Well, you won't accomplish much in life or get very far with that kind of attitude.
Exactly!!! You want to go to a pool looking like Groink or Alex or this guy? All about being lean!!
Turn off your capslock bromo. And please don't push your preconceived notions of what I THINK on me. I don't tolerate people telling me what I believe or think. I said that because he has a busted nose and freakish eyes.
Turn off your capslock bromo. And please don't push your preconceived notions of what I THINK on me. I don't tolerate people telling me what I believe or think.
I said that because he has a busted nose and freakish eyes.
Relax bro I was just annoyed by tbombz thinking he looks better than you calling you tiny, you have good hair and a good jaw, besides youre jacked.
Some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Go suck a dick you ugly fat delusional community college dropout bro-scientist.
Relax bro I was just annoyed by tbombz thinking he looks better than you calling you tiny, you have good hair and a good jaw, besides youre jacked.
I would tell them, what I or anyone else looks like DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. All you can do is work with what you have. You're genetics have limited your shape, size potential, height, etc. You can't change any of this, and its no use or benefit to dwell on this. You can only do the best you can with what you've got; make the best of what youve got (if thats what you want).
In the end, none of this really matters in the grand scheme of things. Its about finding something that makes you happy. If thats working out, despite always being small and having a shitty physique, there's nothing wrong with that. If it does not bring happiness/enjoyment to you, then find another activity that does. For most people, bodybuilding is just a hobby; treat it as one.
Look at my calves. They suck, right. I can't do anything about them, no matter how hard I train them, or how well I eat, they will never be as big as that girl's calves I saw walking around safeway who probably has never trained them. But, I can still make them as good as they can be.
All jokes aside for a moment, I'm not here to give people false hopes. Whether I'm natural or not has no effect on what anyone else can achieve with or without drugs; their genetics are THEIR genetics; no one elses, and nothings gonna change that. All you or anyone else can do is work with what they have.
Jrod, are you a lifetime natty? Have you tried prohormones?
WRONG
YOUR TOO MUSCULAR TO BE NATURAL
NOT TOO BIG
YOUR A FUCKIN TWINK
JROD Man. please just leave...
GH15 is getting angry, and when he gets angry people get hurt.. ;D
Amazing amount of hate. The roiders are threatened by a 170 lb guy who isn't playing their game.
Oh shit. Does this mean I'm gonna get jumped on the way to the gym tonight? I need some backup, fuck.
Flex wheeler out of the Olympia due to Ninja attack.... I guess everything comes full circle... Jeff Rodriguez out of Team Universe due to GH15 attack.
lastly ,, take a comparison between the leaf boy from this boarding and this rodirigez fella,,it will show you ever5ything i mean ,,leaf boy taring himself a new asshole and on the hormones...he has as good as physiqe as rodrigez only les less time in bodybuild and less knowledge of dialing in ...but take a look at how they both look when few weeks out....similar in many ways...similar skin toning,,similar thickness,,similar density ,,similar everything aside from rodrigez gas bigger diamater to the muscle due to more years of doing the so call 'natural' thing...while the other leaf fella admit to the truth ,,
this is why i cant stand the natural liars,,they will stop at nothing only to make a few bucks on your back,,they would really lie about anything
gh15 approved
no youll compete,,and do well,,but remember! you need the sources more than they need you ,,remember that! each and every one of them READ this,,
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hes on real hormones,,not pro hormones,,eventhough did halodrol and superdrol too which are steroids better than dianabol,,btu he is on reghular continous usage of legit hormonesYou have the drug test results to prove this , right?
gh15 approved
rodrigez,,you are pissing the wrong people off with those lies,,especialy the way you put them in this posting,,you make people here doubt wether you use lsomething once in a blue moon when you are a long time continous user of hormones,, just shut your hole because you are pissing wrong people and you do need the hormones,,im askin you nicely to shut yout pie hole about this,,you really making fella such as decide more sick in head and realy believe in genetic balonie,,you ruin this kid and many like him,,karma is nto somethign you want to mess with here ,, dont thikn you are safe because you can do annonimous orders,,to many know who you are and where you are to the t ,,including what come in your usps mail
im telling you you think before you talk
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VERY VERY VERY GOOD! ,,he is not twink he is quite big but what you said in the first senstence very important!,,when you say he is not big you mean he lack thickness ,,,he is big in mesurments of muscle diameter ,,but not enough thickness because he does not rely on testosterona like middle east fellas rely less on testosterona....he just doesnt use high dose testosterona....
the thing is he is too muscular! yes there is such a limit of muscularotory for true naturals,,,i keep telling you rodirigez natural ,,truly natural wouldnt even be 170lb at 6-7% ,,usualy the ones who are 165-170 6% are the 5'10 5'11 fellas naturaly,,, rodrigez is shorter fella he is not 5'10 i thikn 5'8 maybe 5'9 he would be 160 6% naturaly ,,
the hormones gave him the avrage 30lb gym rat muscle...he just played with it right ,,knew his body ,,and got it to be 15 lb bigger than what he would be if truly natural ,,
gh15 approved
I got with Species Nutrition right after the 2007 Team Universe. Dave Palumbo asked me to try out his Isolyze (whey protein) product, I really liked and he offered me the sponsorship.
Hey GH15,
seeif you can tell me what my dog ate for lunch by LOOKING at a pic of her.
Do you even realize how closed minded and biased you sound?
For a smart guy you sound more like some conspiracy nut when it comes to natural BB.
I actually like you GH15 and find your drug cycle stuff interesting.
But with no real proof , why do you feel the need to keep saying nobody can build a decent physique without drugs?
She ate your (M)Asshole?We have a winner!
I know right..? Like all of the Elite are contacting this Phucking Yahoo,and telling him to warn Mr.Rodriguez,or else they won't let Mr.Rodriguez in the inner circle? LOL.. What a clown..
Hahaha pissing off the wrong people? Who...? You and your sheep?
i dont like you though,,from what i been told you go on muscular developmnt boaridng kissing ass of liars and hormonized fellas,,you actualy live in illusion howard,,you will nevr compete again because you know that your hrt shit wont do nothing,,Eat me :P
decent build is not what rodrigez have,,he has top build and done on hormones that many fellas risk their LIVES to get into his door! ,,so treat it with respect,,remember being on boarding and thikning bad things can never come your way is not the right way especialy not on americana land,,
you cant behind close doors chase and beg for hormones,,and then on the front put a joker face and lie lie lie,,something here is not right,,much better to shut up or just be honest,, you have fellas RISKING THEIR FUCKIN LIVES so you can keep lieing and parading around with ron heris about how natural bodybuild is possible when it is not at the level presented by majority of the individuals who scream natural and just plain and simple lie about it ,,
you come here only for balonie hward you are not true getbigger,,you are true ass kisser ! you kiss ass of fellas who are laughin in your face every day ,,you sit and kiss lay nortom ass when lay nortom have a field day with you ,,he knows to never step in my zone like what rodrigez do because he knows he never know what tomorrow bring,, rodrigez actualy has courage ,,he assume i have no time for him which i dont,, but still you dont walk around with red twoel wave in the bulls head none stop
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I wanted to put an end to this talk earlier about me not being big/muscular, whatever you wanna call it. Here is proof, taken today, that I AM fucking big, too buff to be natural, and there is NO damn way anyone can get arms this size without GH15 help.
17 inches IN YOUR FACE!
I wanted to put an end to this talk earlier about me not being big/muscular, whatever you wanna call it. Here is proof, taken today, that I AM fucking big, too buff to be natural, and there is NO damn way anyone can get arms this size without GH15 help.
17 inches IN YOUR FACE!
First time in the history of the internet we have someone making there arms appear smaller than they are... :D
by the way a natural arm in this condition with the mesurements taken for rodrigexz...would be sitting at 14.5-15 inchesOnly a few are looking foolish on here...... It' isn't Mr.Rodriguez.... Wanna guess?
6'2 fellas at suprior condition naturaly at 200lb have 16 inches! which is less than rodrigez 17 inch !
this is shame rodrigez,,what you are doing here is shame,,you making yourself look like fool for getbig history books,,remember the big names still havent arrived here to comment,,wait till van b sees this
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Only a few are looking foolish on here...... It' isn't Mr.Rodriguez.... Wanna guess?
he look very foolish to the majority of bodybuildrs who are true bodybuilders,,not the few whl lift on monday and friday and the decides...they may buy the balonie for a while till they grow up a little ,,but most here sit and laugh behnid the screen ,,its really lieing straight out not even twisting reality just pure liesEverytime I read your posts.... I sit for a few minutes,figure out what it is you're actually trying to say.. Then laugh behind my computer screen..! All hard work and dedication my friend..
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Dammit, why do you have to give me such a hard time. Its not easy taking the pic of yourself (self timer) while flexing and holding the tape. How are these (same photoshoot)
great build... obviously knows what he's doing but he's also
a shameless liar lol and
juiced to the tits of course
how anyone can think that this sort of muscularity and condition is attainable naturally is beyond words
this is a board full of ppl that know whats up... save the lying for bb.com ;D
just got to the barbell curls, 165 x 5, smooth ass reps oh brother
just wondering, when was the last time anyone saw a natural 5'10"ish small jointed natural at 8-10% bf doing 355 for smooth reps on barbell rows?
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just got to the barbell curls, 165 x 5, smooth ass reps oh brother
great build... obviously knows what he's doing but he's also
a shameless liar lol and
juiced to the tits of course
how anyone can think that this sort of muscularity and condition is attainable naturally is beyond words
I wish you had just left it at that; that was beautiful. I need you narrate my upcoming zhasni video on youtube, if you're gonna come through with more lines like that.
this is a board full of ppl that know whats up... save the lying for bb.com ;D
Sorry if im shaking things up for you
Very nice physique! Since this is the internet though and you look much better than I do, you have crap calves and an arse like a soviet building site. :p
Good work, and good luck.
Those two black dudes on the monkey bars were pretty impressive too.
That is strong, but not something that warrants 17" ripped to shreds arms!!!
(I mean naturally)
I got a better one for you! Go find the video where I'm doing 75 or 80 lbs. dumbbell curls a few weeks before a show (my form probably was not that great, and I was being pretty rough swining it and all, but I was really just trying to drop the drug water retention out of my arms by hammering the water out). Come back when you find the video, please. I think that one will be even better proof cause there is no way anyone could do that without some extra help ;)
again trying to twist the information by wrenching it out of context. the point here is the big picture, not the insignificant details, which, of course, are the tools of the trade for all "natural freaks."
j rod... spend a couple hundred dollars and win your pro card... spend another couple hundred and win a pro show.. use that money to buy a pro size cycle and win the olympia. my honest advice for you. youve got about a million dollars awaiting you in contest prize winnings, supplement contracts, photo shooots, and guest appearance fees. you cant tell me that isnt worth a couple hundred dollars of investement. its really not unhealthyand you cant tell me you wouldnt enjoy looking like a victor martinez or ronnie coleman.
great build... obviously knows what he's doing but he's also
a shameless liar lol and
juiced to the tits of course
how anyone can think that this sort of muscularity and condition is attainable naturally is beyond words
I wish you had just left it at that; that was beautiful. I need you narrate my upcoming zhasni video on youtube, if you're gonna come through with more lines like that.
this is a board full of ppl that know whats up... save the lying for bb.com ;D
Sorry if im shaking things up for you
not shaking anything up.. we've seen this story a hundred times
just another wannabe star who couldnt
and now lies to make a buck or two
nothing wrong with your physique or wanting to make money off it...
its the nonstop, casual lying that's distasteful and insulting to the collective getbig intelligence
;D hope that helps
not shaking anything up.. we've seen this story a hundred times
just another wannabe star who couldnt
and now lies to make a buck or two
nothing wrong with your physique or wanting to make money off it...
its the nonstop, casual lying that's distasteful and insulting to the collective getbig intelligence
;D hope that helps
if I took drugs
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jrod..Do you believe the famous natural bodybuilders are natural too? What about the ones who are better than you?
Just out of interest Jeff, what do your arms measure in the off-season and what sort of weight do you get up to?
Amazing amount of hate. The roiders are threatened by a 170 lb guy who isn't playing their game.This.
this is the story of our fellow new getbig resident rodrigez,,
back in the day he used to see bodybuild comeptetition ,,he saw me on stage,,he saw sean ,,he saw liar p,, he saw dorian ,,he saw paulie,,he was like mmmmmm i like that! i may take on bodybuild,,since im skinny and have nice defintiion going geneticaly fast metabolizm etc,,he was then 148.5 lb or such
then he took on bodybuild...he started lifting weights...he gained some size...like any natural ,,,but very fast found out whats true natural mean and that true natural stop within first 2 year of training to make ANY GAINS ,,any significant gains,,and just play with what we pro play only 100-150lb smaller perma bulk ofseason into condition ...170lb offseason into comeptition weight of 150 for his height...he found it out
at the same time he wathced me and chiwawee competing...he also bought saw a little competition called muscle mania...featuring my good friend ade ,,,he really really liked it,,,he actualy bought to the idea for a while that ade may be natural and realy blessed,,he did ,,everyone does,,ade was the sagi kalev of musclemania back in the day ,, little rodri..i shall call him rodri from now on since he is my friend... ::),,little rodri decided hey i may take on that because i look quite similar only 50-60 lb smaller,,i have a chance to make something out of something and exell IN SPORTS! ,,soooo....rodri from this day on was on a 2 path way to either become a npc type fella or natural musclmania team universe all this nabbabeeba type of balonie type of fella,,,
he tested both,,after doing hormones he found out he doenst blow up right due to average respond to hormones,,his type of physiqe didnt blwo up right due to its fragility nature,, he looked much much better at lower 200lb dub 200lb zone...he really wanted to be like us but sometime you gotta give friends..when your body can not intake all the stuff ,,when you are not able to sacrifice the amoutn of time for the doses and for the risk because yes insulina and gh bring with it some kind of risk of ENLARGED body parts...
well he finaly chose to go where he felt most comfy ,,THE NATURAL route,,the route of many before him and sadly many after him,,he learned it well,,begged me very well ,,he read alot ,,asked the ones in the know which in his case gave good advice but mainly relyed on one and only one thing as with all fake naturals ...he relyed on HIMSELF and his trial and error....he followed things to the t ,,he used not abused,,he never went 2 grams testosterona becaus as said before he didnt have the ability to respond to it well because he didnt have enough money for 15 iu gh a day...and again body frame would not look good at the higher numbers in his particular case...
so rodri chose to go long term usage on lower doses of specific anabolics and other products who enhance the physiqe and grow ONE LEAN ,,grow you while shedding bodyfat,,,
he learned from the natural ::) ade ,,and from rip swole cat that helped those losers god knows why he did but he wass my icon and have place of homor in bodybuild hall of fame,,,he learned from swole cat that the natural should rely on trenbolona for trenbolona is the only drug to reduce your weight while increasing your muscle mesurement same time! he learned that no cardio needed with trenbolona and if used in low enough doses for body weight needed it will have minimal sides as in age you much less ,, he also learned that masterona and oxandrolona will be great addition to cut off any ANY signs of gyno ,, he also learned that gh when legit will accelerate process of muscle fiber build up that if done right and in short bursts and then enriched with spefici ass ...it will keep all muscle on you while shedding bodyfat to where you need to be to make impact as a fake natural,,
this is far from it ,,he learned a lot more about how to integrade other products i wont talk about here into the so call natural regemin,,he learned it all and learned it WELL,, he is what our egyptian resident of peace big apE the one with the nose i forgot his name is all about,,big ape want to be like rodrigez ...and rodrigex wasnted to be like ade...and mean while sagi kalev is sitting and laughin all the way to the bank because he is the only one who make money out of this balonie,,
see friends,,i became god of hormones for a reason ,, i didnt just come out of no where,,i have vast expericne with all of them ,,10s of years,, it is just not nice for him to come here and lie to hard working true bodybuilders,,this is not muscular develop this is not other boarding ,,this is getbig,,it is the place where truth about bodybuild is set free... every liar who come here find himself at the end being shamed and most importantly BURN ALL CONTACT FOR MAKING MONEY OF THE CULT,,
remember rodrigezx..every judge ,,every bodybuild ,,every npc ifbb and even your otu fucked up organization they all here read this,,every company is here,,the buyers are here,,you are hurting your chances of making money out of the cult by doing the balonie you are doing,,
gh15 approved
Just out of interest Jeff, what do your arms measure in the off-season and what sort of weight do you get up to?
JRod post some pics before you started working out ,lets see if you were a genetic freak.
JRod post some pics before you started working out ,lets see if you were a genetic freak.
this is the story of our fellow new getbig resident rodrigez,,
back in the day he used to see bodybuild comeptetition ,,he saw me on stage,,he saw sean ,,he saw liar p,, he saw dorian ,,he saw paulie,,he was like mmmmmm i like that! i may take on bodybuild,,since im skinny and have nice defintiion going geneticaly fast metabolizm etc,,he was then 148.5 lb or such
then he took on bodybuild...he started lifting weights...he gained some size...like any natural ,,,but very fast found out whats true natural mean and that true natural stop within first 2 year of training to make ANY GAINS ,,any significant gains,,and just play with what we pro play only 100-150lb smaller perma bulk ofseason into condition ...170lb offseason into comeptition weight of 150 for his height...he found it out
at the same time he wathced me and chiwawee competing...he also bought saw a little competition called muscle mania...featuring my good friend ade ,,,he really really liked it,,,he actualy bought to the idea for a while that ade may be natural and realy blessed,,he did ,,everyone does,,ade was the sagi kalev of musclemania back in the day ,, little rodri..i shall call him rodri from now on since he is my friend... ::),,little rodri decided hey i may take on that because i look quite similar only 50-60 lb smaller,,i have a chance to make something out of something and exell IN SPORTS! ,,soooo....rodri from this day on was on a 2 path way to either become a npc type fella or natural musclmania team universe all this nabbabeeba type of balonie type of fella,,,
he tested both,,after doing hormones he found out he doenst blow up right due to average respond to hormones,,his type of physiqe didnt blwo up right due to its fragility nature,, he looked much much better at lower 200lb dub 200lb zone...he really wanted to be like us but sometime you gotta give friends..when your body can not intake all the stuff ,,when you are not able to sacrifice the amoutn of time for the doses and for the risk because yes insulina and gh bring with it some kind of risk of ENLARGED body parts...
well he finaly chose to go where he felt most comfy ,,THE NATURAL route,,the route of many before him and sadly many after him,,he learned it well,,begged me very well ,,he read alot ,,asked the ones in the know which in his case gave good advice but mainly relyed on one and only one thing as with all fake naturals ...he relyed on HIMSELF and his trial and error....he followed things to the t ,,he used not abused,,he never went 2 grams testosterona becaus as said before he didnt have the ability to respond to it well because he didnt have enough money for 15 iu gh a day...and again body frame would not look good at the higher numbers in his particular case...
so rodri chose to go long term usage on lower doses of specific anabolics and other products who enhance the physiqe and grow ONE LEAN ,,grow you while shedding bodyfat,,,
he learned from the natural ::) ade ,,and from rip swole cat that helped those losers god knows why he did but he wass my icon and have place of homor in bodybuild hall of fame,,,he learned from swole cat that the natural should rely on trenbolona for trenbolona is the only drug to reduce your weight while increasing your muscle mesurement same time! he learned that no cardio needed with trenbolona and if used in low enough doses for body weight needed it will have minimal sides as in age you much less ,, he also learned that masterona and oxandrolona will be great addition to cut off any ANY signs of gyno ,, he also learned that gh when legit will accelerate process of muscle fiber build up that if done right and in short bursts and then enriched with spefici ass ...it will keep all muscle on you while shedding bodyfat to where you need to be to make impact as a fake natural,,
this is far from it ,,he learned a lot more about how to integrade other products i wont talk about here into the so call natural regemin,,he learned it all and learned it WELL,, he is what our egyptian resident of peace big apE the one with the nose i forgot his name is all about,,big ape want to be like rodrigez ...and rodrigex wasnted to be like ade...and mean while sagi kalev is sitting and laughin all the way to the bank because he is the only one who make money out of this balonie,,
see friends,,i became god of hormones for a reason ,, i didnt just come out of no where,,i have vast expericne with all of them ,,10s of years,, it is just not nice for him to come here and lie to hard working true bodybuilders,,this is not muscular develop this is not other boarding ,,this is getbig,,it is the place where truth about bodybuild is set free... every liar who come here find himself at the end being shamed and most importantly BURN ALL CONTACT FOR MAKING MONEY OF THE CULT,,
remember rodrigezx..every judge ,,every bodybuild ,,every npc ifbb and even your otu fucked up organization they all here read this,,every company is here,,the buyers are here,,you are hurting your chances of making money out of the cult by doing the balonie you are doing,,
gh15 approved
Can you please go a few pages back (dont remember which); I posted 4 pictures and the last one (on a rock) was when I was 17, right before I started training.
saw you LOL what a joke you are gh15
you live in a fantasy world
keep on lieing,, it enhances your internet image...
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Damn you are a genetic freak ,
how much did you weight in this pic ?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413155;image)
Damn you are a genetic freak ,
how much did you weight in this pic ?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413155;image)
*mwbbuilder hits post button*
lol
i liked this
i like mmb he come once in a month to my posting and make me smile,,then he go down his mega mass 4000
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oh and by the way so its clear! ,,i thikn rodrigez has GREAT phyqie ,,thats not the issue,,he has one of the best physiqes i have seen for his size/weight,,this is however not the issue,, one of the best physiqes for middle weights/light heavys even in the npcX2 for sure!
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Swole Cat was a great guy Gh15.........always willing to give help to everybody and anybody......I had no idea you knew him.
May he RIP.
he died? was the moderator at bb.com back in the day?He had his own forum,I used to post there occasionally but I`m drawing a blank on the name...Iron Asylum I think! ???
He had his own forum,I used to post there occasionally but I`m drawing a blank on the name...Iron Asylum I think! ???
Yeah he passed away a few years back.
if that was the dude from bb.com, he was a punkNo not from bb.com..........and far from a punk.
Sexy? Who said anything about him being sexy? :-\
You find him sexy huh, here I was thinking gay men had standards
I wanted to put an end to this talk earlier about me not being big/muscular, whatever you wanna call it. Here is proof, taken today, that I AM fucking big, too buff to be natural, and there is NO damn way anyone can get arms this size without GH15 help.Very good Jeff... Candidizzle//ColonDrizzle//Tbombz is a bit deranged at times. He knows the truth but has aggressive homosexual spurts and likes to call people twinks. 17 inch arms are by no means an easy feat. My arms look TINY in pictures and no one believes me when i throw around measurements. Here is a shot of mine... I am not quite as lean as you are in your picture. I hope they stay close to the same size as i diet. These guys will always flame away whether is is saying arnold had 18 inch arms max or what not. We are all guilty of partaking in the flaming at times though. Stay strong and have fun. I hope to see you actually win that overall this year. I bet it is frustrating. I always got angry when they put you in second in the middles weights. I know exactly it feels man. You always bring the best conditioning. It almost makes you want to just enter in your offseason conditioning.
17 inches IN YOUR FACE!
Straight up, jokes aside. I think there are lots of people with those delusions you just mentioned. I honestly don't think I would be able to do everything (money, olympia, etc.) you said if I took drugs. Who knows how I would respond, who knows if I will stay healthy (I might tear something, break, whatever). If you could somehow PROVE (I mean without a doubt) that all I had to do was take steroids and I'd be making hunders of thousands of dollars (not even millions), and could ensure a good financial future for myself, I would gladly do it AND I'd gladly give you a cut of the money.
i will tell you exactly why friend,,the human body has limits of how much muscle it can carry in suprior condition ,,it is a lmit applied to all humans no matter color race anything of the such,,this limit runs at the 10lb zone for naturals...aka they can differ from eachother 10lb max when all in top condition NATURALLY due to bone ...frame...etc again i am talking same condition truly natural bodybuild 10 lb difference for same heights same bf%
now,, the most importa thing to remember is what true natural spot...and this is highly imprtant for the true natural among yourselves,,the ones who dont lie ,,few of them around but i feel for them ,,their numbers are being surpassed by hormonized liars and their numbers should be proudly presented for all to see for their great achievments,,
those numbers are..
5'10 180 lb 8% bodyfat....
6'2 200lb 6% bodyfat
5'7 145-150lb 6% bodyfat
those are the fellas who need be soluted for their dedication and no surrender to temtation ,,not the liars around you that floded the cult,,its shame for you to bring up new technics in the last 30 years ...because there are NONE ,,only diff is then there was only aas and now there is bnunch of hormones aside from aas inaddition to aas... thats the ONLLLLY diff,,
food is food ,,back then it was BETTER food more organic ...more simple..
some of you fellas really lost your head,,really really living in a dream land where you try to lie and for what? you dont gain anything ,,you dont make money from this ..you are not sagi kalev ,,you are not top models that grace covers all over the world ..you dont have the face to go with the body,,so why the lies? to prove to jen the 19 year old that you met on the beach that you were born geneticaly gifted? dont you think jenny knows you selling her balonie because jenny has a girlfriend that is married to a true bodybuilder,,or will have a girlfriend that date a true bodybuilder...that will be hones with her,,,dont you understand that jenny at the end of the day will figure out that you cant go to sleep with her same times because you are on high from the trenbolona and cant fall asleep? dont you understand she will get it when she find out you want to hump her every day 5 times a day and she dont want to do it...dont you understand jenny will at the end try to move in with you and be in your life and will figure out things and then will kick your sorry ass away because you lied to her all this time and kept your mouth shut?
you americano fellas really think you fool anyone? do you really think she wont be able to use steroids to police if something happen ....you think by you not tellin her you inject hormones she will just be like ok he is all natual ...i can see his muscles are very visible and he maintain lots of size but he was just working very hard ...how long will you be able to sell it to jenny? 2 months? if she dont get it after then jenny will never get anythign and is not worthy of consideration as a girlfriend...because she is dumb and wil be dumb about many things not steroid related
how much do you think you can walk around smiling at the true natural laughin at him behind your back because you are 10lb bigger lieing to everyone you are natural yet on turinabol ,,,oxandrolone,,halodrol,,who do you thin you are fooling?
you really think people are dumb thats the problem,,people are not dumb ,,
the only time to not talk abotu hormones is when you train a client and some fellas come around and say ...hey how do you get your waist so small thats what i wanna know...and then tell you oh my buddy is a bodybuilder you have very high ork morals and consistancy yada dee yada daa...thats hen you smile and say you eat fish all day as a quick get out BECAUSE YOU ARE TRAINING A CLIENT AND DONT ANT TO MAKE A SCENE IN GYM
but the reality of things is this....and listen closely mr posting originator...
today 40 year old women....that train in gyms and come to tone up a bit ...getting fed up with ANAVAR BY THEIR TRAINERS,,THATY CHARGE THEM 500 BUCKS FOR 100 PILLS..DO YOU FUCKIN KNOW THAT?? WHY DONT YOU ASK MICHAEL ARVILLA IF HE KNOWS ABOUT STUFF LIKE THAT IN AMERICANA ,,
many of you are ignorant,,many of you feed your clients and im talkin about bodybuilders that feed their client drugs like oxandrolone ..women who dotn want drugs but you want them to get results and too lasy to train them right ...so you feed them some anavar..and those omen take it 40 year old house wives nurses that just want to become 120 insted of 127 .... and yet you feed them this balonie,,so WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU LIEING TO>??????
40 year old girls using anavar that rarely even touch or experienced with weight ...
you got her ebunch of stinky liars that are mentaly ill,,
really shame
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GH 15 once again telling it like it is, so true!
Another insecure guy that lies about his drug use like all these competing naturals, and lies about how much he cares about it by jokingly admitting it, yet fails at the same time by responding to all the comments.
JRod, wouldn't it be better if you kept your mouth shut and just did your "natural" thing?
why all the lies?
there are a lot of serious bb here, and we are not idiots!
i have trained natural , and it sucks!
go on a pre contest diet , and you will loose all your mass if natural.
it is just the way a human body works, an jrod you are human to!
a liar human that is....
scum of the earth.
i am from europe, not many liars here, most of the guys tell straight up what they use.
and if somebody does not want to do the extreme drug use, we have classic bodybuilding.
but then again , you would get killed in the classic bobybuilding competions overhere.
you are a small individual, and i am not just talking about your physique.
tell your lies somewhere else, you are insulting a lot of people here.
and about gh15 , doesnt't matter who he is, or even if he is a pro or not.
i know a few top amateurs and pro's and gh15 does know his drugs.
and he hates liars, which is cool, he to is european.
jrod is just very insecure and needs to be told that he is a genetic freak on a daily basis, most of these "naturals" are like that. Always screaming natural this and natural that.....
lol! well i am not and need drugs to get big!
i could care less what you use, but you lie!!! liar!!! to kids , to people on this board, unsulting our intelligence.
fu$$ing loosers, lol! i am actually getting pissed now, so i will stop.
no im sure no "real pro bodybuilder" would ever go on a message board and argue with people
as the archives show this has clearly never happened
x2!Oh shit, HAHAHAHA, you wanna get me banned for lying! This is hilarious. Maybe you should make a poll or organize this movement better. Figure it out, cause I wanna know if I get banned for lying.
great post, who here thinks JORD should be banned form getbig for LYING
people who claim steroids are people who havnt lifted naturally ever and shrink down to twink levels
once they stop, and are fact ALL DRUGS
Assuming you're telling the truth, which is just about impossible to believe...
1. You have elite genetics for muscle size, shape and conditioning.
2. You are more muscular than anybody in the IFBB was when they started using steroids, as most started very young.
2.1. You have therefore built an incredible (unheard-of) base of solid, natural muscle.
2.2. You evidently have a great work ethic -- as you were able to accomplish so much, and diet so hard, naturally.
3. You only need to gain a mere 30-40 pounds to be a top 10 Olympian. Ever heard of that Hidetada Yamaguchi guy? You'd look WAY better than him.
4. Everybody grows on 4g hormones and 100iu HG/week. It's physiologically impossible not to grow. Combine high doses with your excellent work ethic, and you have the makings of a top-3 Olympian.
Q.E.D.
PM me & I'll send you information on where to send my cut.
...But it's all moot anyway, as you're lying to us.
And this is the best reason why jrod is lying.
He looks amazing, no one could say otherwise. IF he was natural and go on the sauce now, he'd be Mr Olympia in 3 years.
ofcourse, just like mesmorph, its so disgusting you dont even want to reply to this shit
or that adrian bozo.
seen a pic of adrian fella, would slap his face if he told me he naturel
Very good Jeff... Candidizzle//ColonDrizzle//Tbombz is a bit deranged at times. He knows the truth but has aggressive homosexual spurts and likes to call people twinks. 17 inch arms are by no means an easy feat. My arms look TINY in pictures and no one believes me when i throw around measurements. Here is a shot of mine... I am not quite as lean as you are in your picture. I hope they stay close to the same size as i diet. These guys will always flame away whether is is saying arnold had 18 inch arms max or what not. We are all guilty of partaking in the flaming at times though. Stay strong and have fun. I hope to see you actually win that overall this year. I bet it is frustrating. I always got angry when they put you in second in the middles weights. I know exactly it feels man. You always bring the best conditioning. It almost makes you want to just enter in your offseason conditioning.
Damn impressive!
Thanks, I hope this is my year (it will be my 5th try), but regardless, so long as I best my previous best, I have nothing to complain about. I know what you mean by that last sentence, I've been struggling with that idea a lot this diet, more than ever. But I gotta come in shape.
Damn impressive!Well the thing is you could actually pull it off. You always drop a good 10 lbs the last few days. I could NEVER look as lean as you do in the offseason. Its crazy. Maybe you should try to get into the bottom of the LH class.
Thanks, I hope this is my year (it will be my 5th try), but regardless, so long as I best my previous best, I have nothing to complain about. I know what you mean by that last sentence, I've been struggling with that idea a lot this diet, more than ever. But I gotta come in shape.
gh15 is no proEXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i've been around a lot of pros and i have never once them even bother talking about natural bb's
gh15 is a drug dealer that wants all the sheep here to buy drug from him
can you image a REAL pro bb wasting his time talking a jrod all day and night?
How do you manage work, stress, dieting all at once? How can you sleep normally when you have such a tight schedule?
you know how competitive bodybuilders make money? They sell gear, to gym rats. The ones that know nothing about gear, the ones they could easily rip off. Most gym rats would be delighted to get close to jrod's development, and if you make people believe that the only way to get there is through your local dealer, you can make money hand over fist. Most people could give two shits about competitive bodybuilding and they care less and less every day. The major cash market for a dealer is gym rats. jrod is hurting these guys by telling people what can be achieved naturally, he is taking money out of the dealers pockets. You think these guys have careers? Families? They have nothing but wasted time on wasted bb dreams, this how they make their money, and people like jrod fuck it up for 'em.
Well the thing is you could actually pull it off. You always drop a good 10 lbs the last few days. I could NEVER look as lean as you do in the offseason. Its crazy. Maybe you should try to get into the bottom of the LH class.
Maybe jrod still has something to prove with all this. ::) Like, you don't have to use steroids to look like a user and have all the signs. ::)
Seriously, when naturals diet they don't have any muscles left. Nobody will never doubt a real natural of using because natural bodybuilder on stage looks pathetic.
x2!Really? Where's your proof? GH1% is the biggest liar here,then all that agree with him.. Let's ban that steroid dealer,then all of the people who openly admit to using steroids(DRUGS)! Sounds ridiculous,right? Yeah..it does..
great post, who here thinks JORD should be banned form getbig for LYING
Well the thing is you could actually pull it off. You always drop a good 10 lbs the last few days. I could NEVER look as lean as you do in the offseason. Its crazy. Maybe you should try to get into the bottom of the LH class.
actually let me clear few things for you so you have some clue,,
the major money makers for dealer are the members of the boarding you are member of!,,all of the bodybuild from begginer to advance all have one thing in their head,,they want to advance,,they do it for GIRLS and looks and look impressive in their own nitch of the world.. some do it to compete and try to get as far as they can ,,youi have both of those and some do it for all over the above,,
those are the main money makers for dealers,,
the local dealers main money makers are 20-45 year old women ,, they can feed them balonie ,,give them results by charging them 500dolaros for 100 tabs anavar... you do the math ,,you have 10 client ...you charge 500 dolaros for 100 pills and oh they wiull paqy if you look lik ebodybuilder and if you have a good reputatition they will pat,,so 10 times 500 = 5 k ...5 k every month from anavar sold to WOMEN that have no clue about lifting and just want to look good... that with out even talking hgh ...
now add to it charges of 50-60 dollaors a session times package of 10 sessions....600 bucks a client times 10 = 6000 dollaors a month ....
so 11000 a month from personal training is how the pupular ones get their income and able to pay for their own shit,,
just to calrify...
11 k a month is good money for doing nothing you know it very well
gh15 approved
You missed the point buddy, but reinforced it in your post. The main money makers are the average people with jobs, families, careers. Those that could give two shits about competition and NPC, IFBB, and just want to improve their appearance. Now all of you reading this, open your eyes and READ BETWEEN THE FUCKING LINES, who is really lying to you?
You missed the point buddy, but reinforced it in your post. The main money makers are the average people with jobs, families, careers. Those that could give two shits about competition and NPC, IFBB, and just want to improve their appearance. Now all of you reading this, open your eyes and READ BETWEEN THE FUCKING LINES, who is really lying to you?
read what between lines? that im honest,,that i lay out the way bodybuild is? that i dont go padding the back of liars who claim natural when they are more hormonized than us pros? they dont use as high doses but they are just as hormonized and utilize diff esters and at time esterless products all year round,,
i tell you what 'buddy',, how about you make a poll ask in the poll who want gh15 gone? ask any question you want,,anything,,you will see in every single poll i dominate ,,i dominate because i say the truth,,because the people like arnold say THE PPLE who actualy do bodybuild know my word is g o l d ,,they know it because they do it,,
ill be damed with the 100s of msseges to me blessing me and my family to forever great health from all the years i been gh15
gh15 approved
you should lay off the "us pros" bullshit. you ruin your credibility even more.
"real" people don't talk that way.
another thing you fellas need to knwo is,,drug dealer which hormones is not even drugs,,but hormone dealer which is perfectly legal aroudn the world in many places in cluding americana ,,in americana its controlled! its not illegal in americana ,,but hormone dealer is just as good as his product or her product,,if hormone dealer dont operate he is doomed he can try to recreate himself 1000 times and he will fail ,,i can give many examples but ill leave it at that,,
hormone dealer is as good as the service mainly the wuality of ingredients and final product,,his responsibily is to make sure you get exactly what ordered and as painless as possible with today pussys that is used to everything like butter,,,so now day the good hormone dealers are known gold for the cult,,they actualy do great work ,,they do everythign painless and put good product out,,the human grade dealers that are top also go themselves to pharmacy and buy it THEMSELVES for your sorry ass to be able to keep on lieing abotu natural status
gh15 approved
read what between lines? that im honest,,that i lay out the way bodybuild is? that i dont go padding the back of liars who claim natural when they are more hormonized than us pros? they dont use as high doses but they are just as hormonized and utilize diff esters and at time esterless products all year round,,
i tell you what 'buddy',, how about you make a poll ask in the poll who want gh15 gone? ask any question you want,,anything,,you will see in every single poll i dominate ,,i dominate because i say the truth,,because the people like arnold say THE PPLE who actualy do bodybuild know my word is g o l d ,,they know it because they do it,,
ill be damed with the 100s of msseges to me blessing me and my family to forever great health from all the years i been gh15
gh15 approved
read what between lines? that im honest,,that i lay out the way bodybuild is? that i dont go padding the back of liars who claim natural when they are more hormonized than us pros? they dont use as high doses but they are just as hormonized and utilize diff esters and at time esterless products all year round,,
i tell you what 'buddy',, how about you make a poll ask in the poll who want gh15 gone? ask any question you want,,anything,,you will see in every single poll i dominate ,,i dominate because i say the truth,,because the people like arnold say THE PPLE who actualy do bodybuild know my word is g o l d ,,they know it because they do it,,
ill be damed with the 100s of msseges to me blessing me and my family to forever great health from all the years i been gh15
gh15 approved
whats wrogn with us pros,,thats how i talk ,,us pros ,,that mean myself and others ,,the ones who stood on npc stage and got an ifbb pro card,,,it also inclue the ones who were awarded it internationaly ,,
a pro is a pro no matter how you put it ,,even if bad pro stil he is a pro ,,
you have onsession with gh15 friend
relax on some mega mass 6000
gh15 approved
look at THE FUCKIN CONDITION OF THAT ARM,,this is 17 inch arm that can easily be 18.5 inch arm with little water and another 1-2% of bodyfat...this is not natural anything,,this is 17 inch of pure lean beef!...at 5'8 5'9 this is direct result of hormonal usage,,you are hormonized and not for couple months,,for long long time
gh15 approved
i do admire how you lead the sheep.
gh15, you know these people on this board as asses. they would even tell you that. getbig.com is to let out your negative, crude say anything you want personality.
and you are no pro. you would have more self esteem, less bullshit bravdo, and better things to do with your time.
lol ,,i like it how you say i have no self esteem and pro woudl hav emore self esteem ,,if you only knew friend,,if you only knew,,so many of us hav ezero self esteem,, not even little bit! the bobie chick is NOT the norm ....the ones you see around is not the norm ...you talk about life in the lime light its diff than behind the scenes,,i suggest to you to meet with shari kamali and see how much self esteem he has... in real life or why dont you go talk to the new pro dan hill and see how much self esteem he has...or how about go talk to the murderer and see how much confidence he has...
but the best THE BEST exampel is loui,,he was such low self esteem that his dad had to do everything for him and push him none stop and due to that it even increases it,,took long long time until he became his own man ,,and even now years later it fucks him up,,
now i dont talk about all the drug dealers that been busted 1000 times that are pros...
the story go on and on too many examples,,
you talk out of your ass
the reason i like to be on get big is because i created a generation and i like seeing them coming to their own ,,which i see weekly monthly and yearly ,,you can sense the change they just know whats up and i like being part of it until my last breath which cab ne tomorrow or in 50 years only god knows
finaly talking abotu self esteem and confidence...i sugesst you go to branches place for a coffee,, fella can hardly talk ,,he is shy ,, he is ok in his own enviroment but extremly sensetive like 90% of us ,,we are higly sensetive to critiqe we just dont show it
gh15 approved
this is the story of our fellow new getbig resident rodrigez,,
back in the day he used to see bodybuild comeptetition ,,he saw me on stage,,he saw sean ,,he saw liar p,, he saw dorian ,,he saw paulie,,he was like mmmmmm i like that! i may take on bodybuild,,since im skinny and have nice defintiion going geneticaly fast metabolizm etc,,he was then 148.5 lb or such
then he took on bodybuild...he started lifting weights...he gained some size...like any natural ,,,but very fast found out whats true natural mean and that true natural stop within first 2 year of training to make ANY GAINS ,,any significant gains,,and just play with what we pro play only 100-150lb smaller perma bulk ofseason into condition ...170lb offseason into comeptition weight of 150 for his height...he found it out
at the same time he wathced me and chiwawee competing...he also bought saw a little competition called muscle mania...featuring my good friend ade ,,,he really really liked it,,,he actualy bought to the idea for a while that ade may be natural and realy blessed,,he did ,,everyone does,,ade was the sagi kalev of musclemania back in the day ,, little rodri..i shall call him rodri from now on since he is my friend... ::),,little rodri decided hey i may take on that because i look quite similar only 50-60 lb smaller,,i have a chance to make something out of something and exell IN SPORTS! ,,soooo....rodri from this day on was on a 2 path way to either become a npc type fella or natural musclmania team universe all this nabbabeeba type of balonie type of fella,,,
he tested both,,after doing hormones he found out he doenst blow up right due to average respond to hormones,,his type of physiqe didnt blwo up right due to its fragility nature,, he looked much much better at lower 200lb dub 200lb zone...he really wanted to be like us but sometime you gotta give friends..when your body can not intake all the stuff ,,when you are not able to sacrifice the amoutn of time for the doses and for the risk because yes insulina and gh bring with it some kind of risk of ENLARGED body parts...
well he finaly chose to go where he felt most comfy ,,THE NATURAL route,,the route of many before him and sadly many after him,,he learned it well,,begged me very well ,,he read alot ,,asked the ones in the know which in his case gave good advice but mainly relyed on one and only one thing as with all fake naturals ...he relyed on HIMSELF and his trial and error....he followed things to the t ,,he used not abused,,he never went 2 grams testosterona becaus as said before he didnt have the ability to respond to it well because he didnt have enough money for 15 iu gh a day...and again body frame would not look good at the higher numbers in his particular case...
so rodri chose to go long term usage on lower doses of specific anabolics and other products who enhance the physiqe and grow ONE LEAN ,,grow you while shedding bodyfat,,,
he learned from the natural ::) ade ,,and from rip swole cat that helped those losers god knows why he did but he wass my icon and have place of homor in bodybuild hall of fame,,,he learned from swole cat that the natural should rely on trenbolona for trenbolona is the only drug to reduce your weight while increasing your muscle mesurement same time! he learned that no cardio needed with trenbolona and if used in low enough doses for body weight needed it will have minimal sides as in age you much less ,, he also learned that masterona and oxandrolona will be great addition to cut off any ANY signs of gyno ,, he also learned that gh when legit will accelerate process of muscle fiber build up that if done right and in short bursts and then enriched with spefici ass ...it will keep all muscle on you while shedding bodyfat to where you need to be to make impact as a fake natural,,
this is far from it ,,he learned a lot more about how to integrade other products i wont talk about here into the so call natural regemin,,he learned it all and learned it WELL,, he is what our egyptian resident of peace big apE the one with the nose i forgot his name is all about,,big ape want to be like rodrigez ...and rodrigex wasnted to be like ade...and mean while sagi kalev is sitting and laughin all the way to the bank because he is the only one who make money out of this balonie,,
see friends,,i became god of hormones for a reason ,, i didnt just come out of no where,,i have vast expericne with all of them ,,10s of years,, it is just not nice for him to come here and lie to hard working true bodybuilders,,this is not muscular develop this is not other boarding ,,this is getbig,,it is the place where truth about bodybuild is set free... every liar who come here find himself at the end being shamed and most importantly BURN ALL CONTACT FOR MAKING MONEY OF THE CULT,,
remember rodrigezx..every judge ,,every bodybuild ,,every npc ifbb and even your otu fucked up organization they all here read this,,every company is here,,the buyers are here,,you are hurting your chances of making money out of the cult by doing the balonie you are doing,,
gh15 approved
one of the greatest posts in the history of getbig
He'll post into the night and early morning, thus the meth comment.
Greatest posts? I don't believe for one second "GH15" have ever been on stage in his life (at least a bodybuilding stage).
Hey GH15,
seeif you can tell me what my dog ate for lunch by LOOKING at a pic of her.
the reason i like to be on get big is because i created a generation and i like seeing them coming to their own ,,which i see weekly monthly and yearly ,,you can sense the change they just know whats up and i like being part of it until my last breath which cab ne tomorrow or in 50 years only god knows
Lets give the man some credit for taking the time to come up with and write all that. Maybe not the greatest post ever, but a good, thoughtful effort.
Jroid Approved!
You know, you've been beating me down all day and doing a damn fine job and all, but its nice to see your tender side.
I can feel the change, and definitely just know whats up; I just didn't know it was you who created it. Nice job.
you know the egyptian fella from this board,,big ape ache or whateverr his name,,you took his way of dealing with things and you go cynical joking with your approch to postings when someone tell you it the way it is ,,its a good tactic but it still doesnt hide the truth,,
youre a nice fella,,i told you before very good physiqe ....not ade level but pretty high for this generation ,,but again it is what it is
never the less good luck in the competition
gh15 approved
Hahahaha, GH15 is melting. "Failed bodybuilder"? Ok, most pros might call their career as failed if they haven't won the Olympia at least once or even one pro show....have you done that? If so how many and which ones (I know you won't answer this). But my goal in life wasn't to be a pro bodybuilder, at this point I don't even train like a bodybuilder....I fail to see your idiodic point.
No...I don't know what it feels like, I could careless. Do you know? I do expect an honest answer and if its yes....prove it!
jrod just can't seem to pull himself away from the keyboard...Why would he..hes sponsored to present himself as a natural competitor..
Why would he..hes sponsored to present himself as a natural competitor..
Its his job.
did you lose your appetite for species nutrition whey?! :'(
GH 15 may or may not be a pro or ex pro
who cares- he could be the ghost of dan duchaine.
the truth is GH 15 knows what he is talking about
Bullshit, anyone who's been around long enough KNOW he's full of shit, he appeals to the newbe lifters and naïve on here who take his word for what he says. Fact is people who have been in the industry for 15, 20 or 30+ years knows he's full of shit.
GH 15 may or may not be a pro or ex proI dont care who gh15 is as long as he gives golden advices...hes the man. ;D
who cares- he could be the ghost of dan duchaine.
the truth is GH 15 knows what he is talking about
and he is exposing these LIARS who try to fool naive weight trainers with their LIE
Jrod - you are Natural, a Natural Liar.
karma catches up with everyone
only one who dont like me is liar priest and i have no problem with him but he realy the ytp eof fella that will purposly give shit advice name products and wil tell individuals to truly take 200 mg deca and do his training...sounds femiliar coach? 200 mg is your neck of the wood lolWhy the hate for Lee, God? Hes a nice guy give him a break...at least he mentions his drug use..yes even if its "200 deca" every other month. He mentions drugs..
::)
the only time i can see someoen use 150-200mg testosterona is someone who is doing local show and try to get ready and dry out and want the lines to be on point and get in superb condition ,,THATS WHEN YOU USE 200MG test prop devided into 50mg doses,,but even then its for locals because they dont have the products needed to be able to work with more testosterona at this stage,,
its all money you have ,,products you have ,,and knowledge you have of how to use them
but! 150mg of testosterona a week is prep doses and in most cases for lower level competition ,,at times highler level competition will do it but! it wil be with HEAVY USAGE of anabolics androgenics who do not aromatize to compenste for the very low testosterona doses,,
itas mainly done for water issues not for any other reason,,
gh15 approved
He's a fraud.Why ? because he tells what really goes on in pro BB circles and so called natural BB's that arnt.. you yourself bullshit about what you really use but that is because you come from the generation where you used fuck loads but if you did let on that you used it was in smaller amounts because you didnt want the drugs to be given the credit for your hard work.
I was invited over from bodybuilding.com to show my support for Jeff who really is a natural bodybuilder. If any of you had even halve of Jeff's dedication you would probably look halve as good as he does and that would be impressive.
Jeff, see u at the big show!
Lance
(from the gym)
I was invited over from bodybuilding.com to show my support for Jeff who really is a natural bodybuilder. If any of you had even halve of Jeff's dedication you would probably look halve as good as he does and that would be impressive.Ha! Is he really?
Jeff, see u at the big show!
Lance
(from the gym)
Ha! Is he really?I don't know who those other guys you mentioned are but the 202 guys are all about 62-65 inches tall. Jeff is 69 inches tall. So 20 lbs less and 4-7 inches taller isn't even close. I know Jeff and have watched him train over the past 5 years. No one including Zane trains as hard or as scientificly as Jeff does. And Zane didn't have the same genetics for gaining muscle that Jeff has. You all need to remember that Zane rose to the top because he represented an attainable physique. Besides, I don't see Frank Zane calling Jeff a liar.
He put's Zane to shame. Jeff, Kiyoshi, Miller, etc are all great guys who I would be happy to lift with. Unforunately, they lie! As bad as you want to believe they are natural it is simply not true. These guys carry massive amounts of muscle. They try and downplay how much they truely have by saying things like "I only weight 180". Yea...you only weight 180 when dehydrated and at the lowest possible fat levels a human body can hold. The guys in 202 on weight 202, are they natural?
Jeffs a natural liar.
no doubt hes got a great physique but stop with the lies
I was invited over from bodybuilding.com to show my support for Jeff who really is a natural bodybuilder. If any of you had even halve of Jeff's dedication you would probably look halve as good as he does and that would be impressive.
Jeff, see u at the big show!
Lance
(from the gym)
No one including Zane trains as hard or as scientificly as Jeff does. And Zane didn't have the same genetics for gaining muscle that Jeff has.
Well, there need to be 2 or 3 people in the world who are true and total genetic freaks, maybe he is one of them? Think about it...out there, somewhere somone or maybe 2 people will have insane bbing genetics...he could be that person?, very unlikely but he could be it.
LOL, yeah sure.
And there are also 2 people with an IQ of 250 in the world, and both of them post on getbig, as does then man with the longest penis.
The easiest explanation is most likely to be the right one, and this is that Jrod is on roids. It doesn't take ANYTHING from him, he is dedicated, looks great, aestetic and full, so why the fuck not admit it.
What he does there is not possible for a natural lifter, and everyone who has been lifting on and off steroids for a while can see that.
I agree, but given the few billion people out there, someone has got to THE freak...probably not him though.
HE'S N0T NATURAL BUT TH0SE LIFTS CAN BE D0NE NATURALLY IN THAT REP RANGE.
Not at that bodyweight they can't.
Well, there need to be 2 or 3 people in the world who are true and total genetic freaks, maybe he is one of them? Think about it...out there, somewhere somone or maybe 2 people will have insane bbing genetics...he could be that person?, very unlikely but he could be it.Maybe - but my count getbig has way more than 2 or 3 ;D
Maybe - but my count getbig has way more than 2 or 3 ;D
I was invited over from bodybuilding.com to show my support for Jeff who really is a natural bodybuilder. If any of you had even halve of Jeff's dedication you would probably look halve as good as he does and that would be impressive.
Jeff, see u at the big show!
Lance
(from the gym)
you know how competitive bodybuilders make money? They sell gear, to gym rats. The ones that know nothing about gear, the ones they could easily rip off. Most gym rats would be delighted to get close to jrod's development, and if you make people believe that the only way to get there is through your local dealer, you can make money hand over fist. Most people could give two shits about competitive bodybuilding and they care less and less every day. The major cash market for a dealer is gym rats. jrod is hurting these guys by telling people what can be achieved naturally, he is taking money out of the dealers pockets. You think these guys have careers? Families? They have nothing but wasted time on wasted bb dreams, this how they make their money, and people like jrod fuck it up for 'em.Great post! :) :) :)
Jeez dude, you think it might work the other way around as well? ::)
You should hire yourself out as expert for forensic evidence used in court.
GH15, how did you, as an expert, conclude this man was the killer?
GH15 says ; " I looked at him and knew."
Case closed hehehehe :o
All that may be true in various people who lie about useing steroids, for whatever reasons.
The problem I have with GH15 is that he claims it impossible to build a ripped, quality physique without a lot of drugs. Making a blanket statement like that is silly.
I was invited over from bodybuilding.com to show my support for Jeff who really is a natural bodybuilder. If any of you had even halve of Jeff's dedication you would probably look halve as good as he does and that would be impressive.
Jeff, see u at the big show!
Lance
(from the gym)
All that may be true in various people who lie about useing steroids, for whatever reasons.No he hasn't, he has said you can build a very good physique (for a true natural) up to a certain level - but once past that level looking at height-BF-weight you get to a point where a certain look can only be acheived with "extra help" and this is correct.
The problem I have with GH15 is that he claims it impossible to build a ripped, quality physique without a lot of drugs. Making a blanket statement like that is silly.
you know how competitive bodybuilders make money? They sell gear, to gym rats. The ones that know nothing about gear, the ones they could easily rip off. Most gym rats would be delighted to get close to jrod's development, and if you make people believe that the only way to get there is through your local dealer, you can make money hand over fist. Most people could give two shits about competitive bodybuilding and they care less and less every day. The major cash market for a dealer is gym rats. jrod is hurting these guys by telling people what can be achieved naturally, he is taking money out of the dealers pockets. You think these guys have careers? Families? They have nothing but wasted time on wasted bb dreams, this how they make their money, and people like jrod fuck it up for 'em.
I was invited over from bodybuilding.com to show my support for Jeff who really is a natural bodybuilder. If any of you had even halve of Jeff's dedication you would probably look halve as good as he does and that would be impressive.
Jeff, see u at the big show!
Lance
(from the gym)
naturals do not diet,,true naturals afraid to diet becaue they know they hit 160 in record time,,hell many of them hit 160 if they are out the gym for a month in record time,,
true naturals like to walk around 8-10% 180-185 on creatine and eat every 2 hours so they dont skip a meal...lol ,,true naturals never even see the numbers 190 at 8% 5'10 unless they go on halodrol which is turinabol which is a very good drug
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the answer is Y E S ,, no i wont reveal who i am if i did id never be back as gh15 and im afraid for my family safety
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jrodgh15 just can't seem to pull himself away from the keyboard...
Same kind of thinking that says a 5'9" guy can't win a slam dunk contest or throw a fastball at 100mph."I did not have sex with that woman"
That kind of thing is IMPOSSIBLE, right? ;)
" It is my strong opinion that you avoid the use of AC current in any electrcial systems"
Lord Kelvin , circa 1890's
" A black man with the name Barrack Hussein Obama will never be elected President of the USA "
various media circa 2007
" It is impossible for a man to run under 4min for a mile "
Sports journalists before Roger Bannister broke the mark a half century ago.
" If a woman races longer then 800 m there is a definite risk her uterus could fall out"
Official IOC policy during the first few Olympics
So what is the point? If I understand most of the posts here, there is no reason to train hard, diet and improve yourself!! Is everyone here so low in self esteem that you can't build muscle without a shitload of drugs?? Maybe he is natural. Since the rest of you losers are too busy trying to bring him down instead of bettering yourself, just go eat a bag of shit!! Was john holmes 14 inch cock all drugs?? Did you ever hear of "gifted"? STOP bringing your lazy pathetic stupid ass views here!! No fucking wonder ice curling is getting TV coverage and not our "sport"!! thanks for letting an old man rant and rave.
WRONG
YOUR TOO MUSCULAR TO BE NATURAL
NOT TOO BIG
YOUR A FUCKIN TWINK
Great post!
ofcourse you can build a good physique natural!
just the problem with today's society is that, what is considered good????
a good natural physique will look subpar next to a guy that is on drugs.
and................ today everebody is on drugs!
everything today has to be faster, bigger , better.
why bust your ass for years in the gym, to look like zane? when you can look like him in 6 months?
soooo, the decent natural physique will look like nothing special.
it is a problem of todays society.
it has nothing to do with self esteem or hard work or anything like that
it has to do with the facts of human physiology and the laws of physics
no human being can run under 10 seconds naturally, how do we know? how do we know there isnt some genetic freak somewhere who can do it?
because for the last 80 years athletes have been killing themselves trying
80 years of evidence that tells us it can't be done
millions of athletes have tried every conceivable approach, all over the world,
the best coaches, supported by government programs, have tried every approach possible to bring their athletes under 10s naturally
and the only people who've run under 10 are people using drugs,
if you run around in track circles thats what the coaches, athletes, everyone says privately
if you've competed and watched others compete thats what you've seen with your very own eyes
if you talk to good competitive athletes that's what they will tell you if they trust you
now bodybuilding is EXACTLY the same...there are natural limits and ppl surpassing those limits
are on drugs... its just that simple
what are your chances of running 9.9 naturally? or looking like jrod naturally?
zero
no matter who you are, or how you train, or whatever
hope that helps ;D
keep on lieing,, it enhances your internet image...
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Hahaha an internet image is all you have buddeh
the answer is Y E S ,, no i wont reveal who i am if i did id never be back as gh15 and im afraid for my family safety
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Bulllllllshit! speaking of balogne...
Us pro's, what a joke!
So you believe that Jrod has the most elite genetics on the planet?
I believe it is possible to accomplish what JRod has accomplished naturally with above average genetics, above average dedication and hard work, and knowledge of nutrition and training.
I see too many natural bodybuilders in the gym busting their butts lifting and doing cardio for years with little to no improvement, but they lack one or more of the above.
I've also seen a few guys in the gym who claim to be on steroids, but they hardly look like they even lift at all.
IF he is natural, his genetics are what are responsible for his looks; if he had average genetics he would look like a small swimmer. Hard work, sure, but hard work can only work with the genetics you have. Even if he juices, he has amazing structural genetics...
I said above average genetics, combined with above average dedication and hard work, and knowledge of nutrition and training. They all work together.
They're not above average; they're ELITE, look at him...above average my ass...
I disagree.
Yup, I'm the real moron here.
What cracks me up is how so many will believe some UNknown guy who posts some crap you want to believe is true. GH15 has no proof, no evidence, no data and yet some of you act like he is some BB drug that knows. LOL, give me a break.
I guess, I am part of the mainstream BB conspiracy that GH15 wants to expose like some X Files.
why bust your ass for years in the gym, to look like zane? when you can look like him in 6 months?
How about 5'6, 160 lbs at 6% bf. Is that natural in your book?
The idea that GH15 fears for the safety of his family is silly.
That statement reeks of some delusional, grandiose conpsiracy buff.
For example, other then an internet disagreement with him on natural BB, I could care less what the GH15 says or does.
ofcourse you can build a good physique natural!
just the problem with today's society is that, what is considered good????
a good natural physique will look subpar next to a guy that is on drugs.
and................ today everebody is on drugs!
everything today has to be faster, bigger , better.
why bust your ass for years in the gym, to look like zane? when you can look like him in 6 months?
soooo, the decent natural physique will look like nothing special.
it is a problem of todays society.
this! is the truth!,,what he says what shmoe buster say what will grant say my friends,,this is the truth! this is straight out the sad truth behind natural bodybuild,,everyone forget the differences between cory everson bodybuilder and today natural girls lol ,,i mean are you that dumb to not get it? are you that dumb to not get that cory with aas in her system look less impressive than so call natural girls now days that go to gym and use 2 iu gh and some anavar and npp ? and cory was bigger into drugs but! guess what she was in an era..where gh wasnt common usage ,,it was experiemental ,...so today house wives look as good as cory with otu doing even half the work lol ,,get it in your head already for god sake
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So, he just has above average genetics; on a scale of one to ten I would put them at 9.25.
You are saying he is 6.5 or something?
So you believe that Jrod has the most elite genetics on the planet?
You would admit at least the Jrod has very good structural genetics, small joints, long muscle bellies and V-taper?
I believe it is possible to accomplish what JRod has accomplished naturally with above average genetics, above average dedication and hard work, and knowledge of nutrition and training.
I see too many natural bodybuilders in the gym busting their butts lifting and doing cardio for years with little to no improvement, but they lack one or more of the above.
I've also seen a few guys in the gym who claim to be on steroids, but they hardly look like they even lift at all.
I'd say he has amazing genetics, most elite? highly unlikey. compared to most here though, yeah!
I'm pretty sure jeff would say his gentics help him out a shitload too but he's just playing it off because everyone knows he couldn't have built that without help right? so if he did use drugs then I would say his gentic response isn't that great cause he's hasnt put on much size in the last 3-4years. My personal belief is that he is natural and He's pretty much at his threashold there. I guarantee you will not see him gain any noticable size in the next 20 years.
I'd say he has amazing genetics, most elite? highly unlikey. compared to most here though, yeah!
I'm pretty sure jeff would say his gentics help him out a shitload too but he's just playing it off because everyone knows he couldn't have built that without help right? so if he did use drugs then I would say his gentic response isn't that great cause he's hasnt put on much size in the last 3-4years. My personal belief is that he is natural and He's pretty much at his threashold there. I guarantee you will not see him gain any noticable size in the next 20 years.
the answer is Y E S ,, no i wont reveal who i am if i did id never be back as gh15 and im afraid for my family safetyFamilies safety!? Brotha,you think too highly of yourself.. You come on here and bullshit about thing's that most that have done cycles already know.. Or they can get online and find out themselves.. You have not dropped one jewel,trust me..
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he is 5 out of 10 like most othr human beings ,,,his genetic respond to hormones is what dictate how well he does,,and he chose natural route which is lower doses and longer period of usage and longer competetive lives
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Families safety!? Brotha,you think too highly of yourself.. You come on here and bullshit about thing's that most that have done cycles already know.. Or they can get online and find out themselves.. You have not dropped one jewel,trust me..
that's an oxymoron
face it, according to your own scale you gave awhile back
5'10 180lbs 8% bodyfat is not far off from where jroid competes at which is what 5'8-9 175lbs 5%? that's what 10lbs away from your calculations?
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today, genetics mean absolutely nothing!
you can have the sickest frame in the world, but when you do not have the right connections to the right drugs....
you will not get anywhere...
when you do not have the (hgh) money , you will not get anywhere.
yet a guy with a crappy built but WITH the right connections will blow you out the water ....
he will have money and connections, will blow superior frame out of the water..!
sad, but true...
genetics meant something in 70 's and 80's...
we should have a new class of bb, the up to 5 iu's max of hgh class!
lol.... goodbye phill heath.... will expose those guys in a minute...
very VERY good,,this is right there the truth ,,everyone knows it but for some reason try to pass bodybuild nto for what it is but for what they want the local whore to think it is ,,very strange phenomenonyes i know!
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very VERY good,,this is right there the truth ,,everyone knows it but for some reason try to pass bodybuild nto for what it is but for what they want the local whore to think it is ,,very strange phenomenon
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yes i know!
i mean i love bodybuilding... really.
but hate stupid liars who act like they are gods genetic gift to the world.
just lift weights and eat properly, and juice! that is it! it's not rocketscience...!
btw, gh15 love your posts....! lol!
Yes genetics mean nothing when you have access to all the right drugs, just ask palumbo. Good response but shitty fucking frame. Couldn't obtain a pro card but tried everything under the sun.
So if he gets bigger you will say he juices?
palumbo abused igf in doses you will not believe along with insulina in doses you will not believe,,he is not good example of bodybuilder,,he is soley drug abuser ,,you still need to lift weight ,,be consistant ,,keep symetry and proportion ,,you still need to be bodybuilder,,drugs is important yes but yuo still need to fuckin do the right thing along the way to get to the top
i never said you can take drugs and do nothing and become professional,,never did i say that,, i said you need to train and be consistant and hav eit all together WITH drugs inorder to make yourself into top competitor that get places,,
drugs are very important but the rest is too,,only thing i made sure is that you fellas know that diet is over rated when you have all you can eat gh buffer and trenbolona ace,,infact you will be walking 6% with most type of diet after long enough time on trenbolona ace and gh on and off
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not 5'6 and 6% ,,5'8 160lb 6% is possibel naturally ,,that zone 7lb for every inch
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palumbo abused igf in doses you will not believe along with insulina in doses you will not believe,,he is not good example of bodybuilder,,he is soley drug abuser ,,you still need to lift weight ,,be consistant ,,keep symetry and proportion ,,you still need to be bodybuilder,,drugs is important yes but yuo still need to fuckin do the right thing along the way to get to the top
i never said you can take drugs and do nothing and become professional,,never did i say that,, i said you need to train and be consistant and hav eit all together WITH drugs inorder to make yourself into top competitor that get places,,
drugs are very important but the rest is too,,only thing i made sure is that you fellas know that diet is over rated when you have all you can eat gh buffer and trenbolona ace,,infact you will be walking 6% with most type of diet after long enough time on trenbolona ace and gh on and off
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but he did beat a lot of guys with prettier frames!
Yes genetics mean nothing when you have access to all the right drugs, just ask palumbo. Good response but shitty fucking frame. Couldn't obtain a pro card but tried everything under the sun.
Obviously he trained. He came out of prison looking pretty decent assuming he only got 50% of the shit he was normally used to getting.
What in the hell did that rambling diatribe have to do with natural BB?
FYI, I already know I am kinda chunky , over 50 trying to slim down.
I can look in a mirror and see that.
What in the hell did that rambling diatribe have to do with natural BB?
FYI, I already know I am kinda chunky , over 50 trying to slim down.
I can look in a mirror and see that.
look like zane in 6 months?! wtf?Bingo ! That is because most think it is all about body fat% and body wt.
I dont see many people walking around that look like zane
Bingo ! That is because most think it is all about body fat% and body wt.As long as they dont look like you im sure they will be happy, you bitch ::)
You can take a 100 dedicated gym rats around 5'9" and have them train ,diet hard and use some juice .
Have them all weigh in around 180-195 lbs at under 5%.
Very few if any will look anything like Zane in Olympia winning form.
I'm 5'6, and I was 160 lbs at 6% bf on stage. I have never even seen steroids or any other performance enhancing drug in my life.
Bingo ! That is because most think it is all about body fat% and body wt.no offcourse not, not shape and conditioning wise....
You can take a 100 dedicated gym rats around 5'9" and have them train ,diet hard and use some juice .
Have them all weigh in around 180-195 lbs at under 5%.
Very few if any will look anything like Zane in Olympia winning form.
I'm 5'6, and I was 160 lbs at 6% bf on stage. I have never even seen steroids or any other performance enhancing drug in my life. Strongest thing I ever tried once was Ephedrine when it was still legal, and never took it again because it kept me up all night.
I won my very first natural bb competition, my weight class anyway. Passed my very first polygraph test before the show and because I won, I had to do a urinalysis test too, which I passed too. The following year, I won my second competition.
This is why I believe JRod is natural and why I think you are mistaken in your so called limits for naturals.
Where are the pics?lol! my buddy is a former world champ and did the masters last year in hamburg.
ummm...from expericne myfriend
5'6 can be 5'7.... and 160 can be 156.... yes 5'6 can be 150lb on stage atound 6 % ,,,5'6 160 TRUE 6% = 5'10 188LB 6% ,,THIS IS NOT ACHIEVABLE WITH OUT HORMONES TO SOME DEGREE,,
usually the cycle that will giv eou 188lb at 5'10 6% on stage is prop and trenbolona ace... if you are in your 20s just that if over 30 you will need gh to bring bodyfat down to begin with and then get on prop and trenbolona ace inorder to end up on stage 188 lb AFTER carb up at 5-6%
so 160lb 5'6 is not possible natrually
then again prop and fina are considered natural in today world,,those bodybuilders who do the cut stuck 3 times a week ..they all condiered natural ,,they also look the best usualy ...tight waist wide delts and ripped and thick to a good level...those ae the ones who never get asked about hormones because the stupid people around think its all hard work....
read this another 100 times then refelct in your mind...then if you got qwuestions ill respond
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ummm...from expericne myfriend
5'6 can be 5'7.... and 160 can be 156.... yes 5'6 can be 150lb on stage atound 6 % ,,,5'6 160 TRUE 6% = 5'10 188LB 6% ,,THIS IS NOT ACHIEVABLE WITH OUT HORMONES TO SOME DEGREE,,
usually the cycle that will giv eou 188lb at 5'10 6% on stage is prop and trenbolona ace... if you are in your 20s just that if over 30 you will need gh to bring bodyfat down to begin with and then get on prop and trenbolona ace inorder to end up on stage 188 lb AFTER carb up at 5-6%
so 160lb 5'6 is not possible natrually
then again prop and fina are considered natural in today world,,those bodybuilders who do the cut stuck 3 times a week ..they all condiered natural ,,they also look the best usualy ...tight waist wide delts and ripped and thick to a good level...those ae the ones who never get asked about hormones because the stupid people around think its all hard work....
read this another 100 times then refelct in your mind...then if you got qwuestions ill respond
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I wouldn't take natural training advice or philosophy from someone who says they could never step into a gym without drugs
i trained some indonisian fella ,,not ade ,,back in the day ,,he was 5'7 156lb offseason 147lb on stage,,he looked better than many hormonized fellas that were 190lb on stage and 240 lb offseason,,he was true natural ....
but again you see the number 5'7777777 147lb on stage 5-6%.... it took him wquite a while to get there too....he ws competing 136 before and then 142 and only later he ended up competing 147 : )
147 5'7 SHREDDED
NOW THIS ! IS natural
oh and he had small joints ,,best frame you can imagine,,wide ...tight waist...huge muscle bellies,,yep his 15.5 inch arms looked huge on his 150lb bod....his abs looked phenominal ,,he had the piano kys ,,
but! it was true natural ,,true frank zane condition only .....
all together now friend....
30-40 lb lighter...
the megic addition of steroids ..only aas,,to a physiqe is 20-30lb of muscle ,,pure lean muscle size....this is where steroid user differ from natural ,,,so.....fellas like rodri ..would be 150-155lb on stage at 5'8 truly natural which which is very very good,,he does remind me that indonisian fella named boika..he does...looked very much the same muscle tone only rodri is much whiter skin tone,,,but very similar in muscle shape...both give bgi illusion only one is natural at 147...one is hormonized at 175....
175 - 147 =? mmmmmmmmmmmm
20-30 lb right?
kepeesh?
good
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i trained some indonisian fella ,,not ade ,,back in the day ,,he was 5'7 156lb offseason 147lb on stage,,he looked better than many hormonized fellas that were 190lb on stage and 240 lb offseason,,he was true natural ....
but again you see the number 5'7777777 147lb on stage 5-6%.... it took him wquite a while to get there too....he ws competing 136 before and then 142 and only later he ended up competing 147 : )
147 5'7 SHREDDED
NOW THIS ! IS natural
oh and he had small joints ,,best frame you can imagine,,wide ...tight waist...huge muscle bellies,,yep his 15.5 inch arms looked huge on his 150lb bod....his abs looked phenominal ,,he had the piano kys ,,
but! it was true natural ,,true frank zane condition only .....
all together now friend....
30-40 lb lighter...
the megic addition of steroids ..only aas,,to a physiqe is 20-30lb of muscle ,,pure lean muscle size....this is where steroid user differ from natural ,,,so.....fellas like rodri ..would be 150-155lb on stage at 5'8 truly natural which which is very very good,,he does remind me that indonisian fella named boika..he does...looked very much the same muscle tone only rodri is much whiter skin tone,,,but very similar in muscle shape...both give bgi illusion only one is natural at 147...one is hormonized at 175....
175 - 147 =? mmmmmmmmmmmm
20-30 lb right?
kepeesh?
good
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Oh, it all makes sense now. This one fella you trained must have been in the upper echelon of genetics too.
If gh15 thinks that 5'6 160 at 6% is impossible with gear obviously has know clue about training, diet or committment. I'll admit I've been trying to figure gh15 out, not about who is, I could careless about that but more about where he comes up with some of this crap. I've came to the conclusion that a lot of what he says is common knowledge, some of it is a guess and the rest is flatout bullshit. Not eveything he says is wrong, I never made that accusation. But when comes up with BS like "you can't be 5'6 at 6% is impossible without gear" is naïve at best.
noen of us will,,we will step in the gym for 2-4 weeks with out it ,,then week 5 we drop ,,everything drop ....the mood ,,we become depressed,,we become much much weaker,,we lose muscle mass in extreme rate ....all happen at the 30-40 day mark...it is very noticaqble past day 60 ...you look like shadow of yourself...so we wear huge shirts to cover it ,,,but the bodybuilder who know you and you cant tell balonie too know whats up and will tell you that to your face especialy when they see you with no shirt...
thats just how it is,,we dont train with out hormones in blood,,and if we do its when the hormone is stil in blood and wait for something else to come
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If gh15 thinks that 5'6 160 at 6% is impossible with gear obviously has know clue about training, diet or committment. I'll admit I've been trying to figure gh15 out, not about who is, I could careless about that but more about where he comes up with some of this crap. I've came to the conclusion that a lot of what he says is common knowledge, some of it is a guess and the rest is flatout bullshit. Not eveything he says is wrong, I never made that accusation. But when comes up with BS like "you can't be 5'6 at 6% is impossible without gear" is naïve at best.
also before i need to go eat,,ill esplain you another thing...
when you sit at 6% bodyfat,,you lose muscle so easily ,,,if you dont eat in the right time,,even with hormones....you do not get optimal conditon and growth ,,,when you are 6% you are very very fragile especialy with no hormones,,but even with hormones....its easy to maintain it with hormones but still if you dont eat YOU FEEL IT ,,at 6% the body changes by the hour...try to be 6% and not eat 4 hours...you will see what it feel like and later on you will see what it look like ,,the body doenst like to be 6% ,,its not where it wants to be,,
thats why when all tell me about natural 6% at weight and sizes of 18 inch arms naturaly and 190 6% shreded...im laughin ,,because the body ,,human body doesnt want to be there and keep the muscle naturaly ,,first think it get rid off is the lean muscle,,what prevent it from doing so is the hormones....btu if not eat on time it messes with you bgi time especialy with your head,,even when on hormones!
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I'm 5'6, and I was 160 lbs at 6% bf on stage. I have never even seen steroids or any other performance enhancing drug in my life.
Where are the pics?
I was using exactly what Arnold used? More proof you're a tool. I was all of 17 when Arnold competed LAST, I couldn't afford it even if I wanted to. Think before you post, you're making an ass of yourself!
lol! my buddy is a former world champ and did the masters last year in hamburg.
he is 1,60 meter in height and was 72 kilo on stage..... he placed 5th at the mr universe masters...
he was on:
hgh 2 iu's a day
test prop 100 mg eod
tren 50 mg eod
some primo
nolvadex
little igf1
you should go on a cycle , you would place well there man!
your numbers match his , and you are natural!!!! ::)
I wanna also add - I actually believe JRod is natural!
All too many times people really underestimate what some are capable of! Keep doing what you are doing man!
I wanna also add - I actually believe JRod is natural!So do I..
All too many times people really underestimate what some are capable of! Keep doing what you are doing man!
No homo? ???
I wanna also add - I actually believe JRod is natural!
All too many times people really underestimate what some are capable of! Keep doing what you are doing man!
I promise. Now, how about those pics?
Well, you never know. I'm willing to keep an open mind. But unless cameras hadn't been invented before that contest, there should be some pics involved.lol! why are you so keen on pics???
ofcourse you do mr www.bigape.com... ofcourse you do
what are you expecting though,,
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generation
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Sorry, no pics! I've been posting here for years, and I have never posted pics. Why would I do that now? I prefer to remain anonymous. I don't even do the facebook thing.
But other than curiosity, why would you want to see my contest pics? The point is that 5'6 and 160lbs at 6% bf natural is possible because I've done it before. What, are you going to measure my height, weight and bf from a picture?
lol! why are you so keen on pics???
getbig is a creepy place...
his name is daniel lungu, google the masters mr universe 2010 hamburg germany.
i am lazy now....
lol
i liked this
i like mmb he come once in a month to my posting and make me smile,,then he go down his mega mass 4000
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I meant pics of loco, not the juicer you were comparing him to.sorry didn't know you like your men 'loco'....
sorry didn't know you like your men 'loco'....
??? It's like the freaking twilight zone with you.lol! .... just kidding man...
lol! .... just kidding man...
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True, it is only natural to want to see some form of visual proof as it is a BB site.
lol..it's been a strange day all around.actually i think my buddy was on a tiny cycle! lol!
My point is that loco, claiming to have reached 160 at a very short height at 6% despite never using any drugs, is saying something that begs for a pic. Your friend had those stats, too, but was on a fair stack - now that's believable without pics.
In my experience, building muscle is the easy part. Trying to maintain the muscle at an unnaturally low body fat is a whole different world. What consumes fat, consumes muscle.True, but Jrod doesn't look that UN-natural to me and could be drug free at that body wt.
True, but Jrod doesn't look that UN-natural to me and could be drug free at that body wt.lol.... not unnatural?
actually i think my buddy was on a tiny cycle! lol!
test prop eod @ 100 mg later on 50 mg
tren @ 50mg eod and some primo... really not that much!
and hgh just @ 2iu's because he is 40 plus.
he is very tiny and short, those guys need less... less mass=less mg of steroids to reach same results...
but i understand what you are saying.
i just know that those numbers mentioned by loco are not possible au natural...
the answer is Y E S ,, no i wont reveal who i am if i did id never be back as gh15 and im afraid for my family safety
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Yes, what you described before is a modest stack, but with a small body it should do the job. Especially for a non-"all drugs" person who actually enjoyed doing the work.gh15 uses his experience and common sense!
As for someone like loco, I'm willing to keep an open mind, but it requires believing that the person has top, elite genetics for this type of activity. Funny thing is, there seems to be A LOT of people claiming to be in that group - which kind of defeats the idea of "top, elite" concept, lol.
gh15 described something once, and I have to believe it. He described a certain psychological profile where the person has a hangup about their stats. Being sub-200 causes them to deny, deny, deny when it comes to juice, as they feel it's embarrassing to be so "small" while gassed.
In my experience, building muscle is the easy part. Trying to maintain the muscle at an unnaturally low body fat is a whole different world. What consumes fat, consumes muscle.
Anyone ever see that picture of Ronnie Coleman as a young teen? With the big ole biceps? That was natural, that was pure genetics.
Look at Jrod's picture by the waterfall. Do the math.
Because of how "fearless" you are.... ::)
The guys winning the pro cards are the ones sucking the judges cocks. Prove to everyone that is incorrect. You are a huge fag...why is it you won't speak of the amount of G4P you have done. EVERY pro has...that must mean you have. Prove to everyone that is incorrect.
I don't know who those other guys you mentioned are but the 202 guys are all about 62-65 inches tall. Jeff is 69 inches tall. So 20 lbs less and 4-7 inches taller isn't even close. I know Jeff and have watched him train over the past 5 years. No one including Zane trains as hard or as scientificly as Jeff does. And Zane didn't have the same genetics for gaining muscle that Jeff has. You all need to remember that Zane rose to the top because he represented an attainable physique. Besides, I don't see Frank Zane calling Jeff a liar.
Everyone at Bodybuilding.com was right about this place. Nothing but losers and haters. Cmon Jeff, let's take our hard work and dedication elsewhere. Its clearly not welcome here.
Anyone ever see that picture of Ronnie Coleman as a young teen? With the big ole biceps? That was natural, that was pure genetics.that pic was in college...
Look at Jrod's picture by the waterfall. Do the math.
Great build! But anyone who's been around the iron game for awhile knows you're full of sht.
Judging buy your timeline picture a few things are apparent:
You have average genetics (at best)
You starting using hormones quite early in your lifting career
You know what works for you and know how to dial in and get in shape
all real natural bodybuilders on stage look like grasshoppers, do they somewhat look good then they are on juice.
Jrod - I've never seen a guy under 200lbs rowing 315 for reps let alone 355 for reps, in fact i've never seen anyone row 315lbs with good form for reps who wasn't on gear
Although I guess the roach is still claiming 585 squat at 18 years old ::)
Where did Mr. Rod go? I'd like him to outline his tanning protocols and explain his choice of posing trunk material.
I wanna also add - I actually believe JRod is natural!
All too many times people really underestimate what some are capable of! Keep doing what you are doing man!
Jrod - you look FUCKING AWESOME!!! I admire your consistency and work ethics man!! It's about time you get the First place win! A long time coming!
BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA......good one ;D.
You saw me do it in that video right? No one else has done it without gear, so what makes you think I could possibly do it naturally. Don't be stupid here, 315 lbs. is a lot of motherfucking weight to be doing at my bodyweight (probably 205-210 in that video) NATURALLY. I would say it was probably about 100 lbs. natural and the rest of the 255 lbs. was all drugs.
At least give credit that I came up with the name jroid you little cumguzzler. >:(
Team jroid (gh15, brospore, etc.) I wanna say thanks for keeping the party alive when I was gone. Damn fine job of keeping this at the top for a third day. Lets keep my 15 minutes going, my friends. Now let me go back and read the last 6 pages I've missed.TEAM JROID IN DA HOUSE!!! LOL!
Let me say ahead of time, that if I miss your post or don't respond to it, I apologize, there is a lot of important shit to get through here and I'll do my best to get to yours.
Jroid approved!
As with most tough questions, the answer to this debate falls somewhere in the middle.
It is reasonable to expect there are some naturals with upper echelon genetics that can maintain a full muscular physique at a low body fat. It is also reaonable to call bullshit on hyper muscular dudes that are full and RIPPED as naturals. Add up all the opinions within this thread and divide by common sense for the answer.
If this J Rod guy is natural, he has some of the most wicked genetics I have ever seen. I have decent to good genetics. Small joints, small waist wide shoulders, decent quad sweep potential (at about 5'11). Honestly, the same type of shape as J Rod with the shitty high calves.
When I was in college I was a delusional bodybuilding fan. I decided to go for it and worked with a national level competitor. I was super regimented - diet was on point, and I trained my balls of for 4 years (been training since I was 14). When dieted down, I was about a buck 55- 60. To compete at over 170 at 5'10 under 6%? Only if you are a mega freak or a total mesomorph which this guy is not. I was always FLAT. The fullness makes me think he's a bullshitter.
these numbers are correct.
impressive posting,,flat is the key key key word,,even mesomorph and muscular fellas they dont walk around 175lb 5'8 4% they just dont,,
here is example of someone that is naturaly ripped and done few cycles of winstrol tablets lol well he is natural stilll in the eyes of generation nothingess,,but here is his nnumbers..
6 feet 2.5 inches...187 lbbbbbbs 4%..... read those numbers again..this is natural numbers... and he did winstrol and claim to have stomack digestive problems and thats why he is constantly ripped and need to eat lots of mcdonalds because he has stomack deasese... lol im not joking by the way thats what he claims with his status which is only 6'2.5 187lb 4% lol
a natural number for 5'10 at 6% is usualy between 165-172 and thats for SERIOUS SERIOUS BODYBUILDERS that eat around the clock ,,and eat a lot! and really on creatine and on protien powders lol and even on halodrol at times lol they end up 170 giev or take 6% lol
yep my friends...this is the sad reality
5'10 170 6% the most gifted ones
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I wanna also add - I actually believe JRod is natural!
All too many times people really underestimate what some are capable of! Keep doing what you are doing man!
This is me at 5'11'' 154 6% lifetime natural. P.S. Back off haters coz I ain't claiming that I'm anything special here, I'm just attempting to show some kind of point of reference for this thread, so just chill.dude, you posted these pics in another thread not to long ago....
I'm just attempting to show some kind of point of reference for this thread
This is me at 5'11'' 154 6% lifetime natural. P.S. Back off haters coz I ain't claiming that I'm anything special here, I'm just attempting to show some kind of point of reference for this thread, so just chill.and wtf is up with the look in your eyes?
So let me get this straight, you guys will not take jrods word for him being natural, even though he has posted his real name, face, tons of pics, contest history etc.. But you have no problem with taking someones word for what to inject into youre body and at what doses. Someone completely anonymous, you dont know who it is, you dont know what they did, all you have is a screen name and good faith. Dont you guys think that your perception of reality and overall judgement is a little skewed? I mean how can you have that much faith in one and none in the other.
Wrong. Most guys here have been in this game for years. We can't be as easily fooled as some noobs over at bb.com or MD. Has noting to do with "taking a guys word" lol.
I have no doubt in my mind that JRod is not lifetime natural and this is coming from a lifetime natural that ate, breathed, dreamt, and lived bodybuilding 24/7 for more than 10 years,No wonder you're so Phucking stupid!
I didn't go to school ,I didn't have a real job , girlfriend ........etc I dedicated my life to lifting ,tanning and eating ( and fucking ) that's it ,and before you say my genetics sucks and aren't as good as JRod ,this is me when I was 16 yr/o before I started lifting .
its good friends,,keep this thread going ,,i will reveal many secrets here about hormones and natural bodybuild,,and also about regular hormonized bodybuild,,
i like this thread it condeses everything insted of me answering million questions on diff times,,
so another secret you dont know and ill tell you here is this....
the gains with trenbolona ace...the real crazy gains,,the thickness fo muscle from within while getting ripped to the bone with bone and muscle only ....those gains come after 3-4 months of continous usage of trenbolona ace...the gains are small and then after few months you notice that suddenly you look very dense...increased all body mesurements of muscle by atleast half inch and this is for the bad responded...and you notice that you got this muscle tone that bulk from within while skin is very good tone due to low bodyfat....if you know your water manipulation and use enough calories and enough fish you also see how your skin shrink wrapp around your muscles...ofcourse hgh therapy shoudl be there before you go on the trenbolona and along with trenbolona and then take gh out for evrything to be on a level worth talking about in bodybuild2000...
but! the gains,,,and those are permenant gains ,,with trenbolona ace come after good 3 months on the drug at higher doses of 150-200mg every 2 days...
many fellas pull amazing look with only trenbolona ace ,,propioneta ,,and masterona
they take 2 cc every 2 days...basicaly 6 cc a week and create a physiqe worthy of fitness modeling at the 200lb zone
gh15 approved
No wonder you're so Phucking stupid!
But...but...Jrod has posted his REAL NAME and CONTEST HISTORY, two pieces of information that are synonymous with integrity and honesty ;D
,Thats more than GH15 has ever given guys
Che, please watch your language in my thread, and lets keep this about my natural status lies and gh15s identity. Jive turkey is a little over the line, my man.
I dont want to have to address you again. Now carry on.
Haha GayWorm standing up for his man .WOW,GayWorm..? I wouldn't expect anything wittier from you..
Haha its all good. I'll tell that bitch to watch her language too.
WOW,GayWorm..? I wouldn't expect anything wittier from you..
Sorry man but your girl call me stupid first , I apologize you're right, I was out of line .Settle down sissy.. If I'm a queer for sticking up for my friend Mr.Rodriguez...? Then your a Pato Susio for sticking up for that drug dealer GH1%...
He was talking about your girlfrieng, Phaggot.
Hahaha even JRod call you a bitch ;D
Settle down sissy.. If I'm a queer for sticking up for my friend Mr.Rodriguez...? Then your (you're) a Pato Susio (sucio) for sticking up for that drug dealer GH1%...FIXED
FIXEDGo back to school dummy..
Yawn , you are boring , next.
You ladies are getting me excited fighting over me.Settle down.. Only one lady getting excited over you.. After reading how uneducated he is..I don't think you'd be interested?
Settle down, ladies, there is plenty of me to go around here.
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I think I look leaner than you there. But maybe you were bigger. You're right, it appears we have the same or similar genetics.
trenbolona ,,masterona,,very low doses of testosterona phnyl prop or prop will get you this physiqe after 6 months of constant usage,,npp added in offseason with hgh for creating fibers couple months on then off to prep and grow lean into the show
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So let me get this straight, you guys will not take jrods word for him being natural, even though he has posted his real name, face, tons of pics, contest history etc.. But you have no problem with taking someones word for what to inject into youre body and at what doses. Someone completely anonymous, you dont know who it is, you dont know what they did, all you have is a screen name and good faith. Dont you guys think that your perception of reality and overall judgement is a little skewed? I mean how can you have that much faith in one and none in the other.
here's a hint: some people actually have the capability to judge threw things they hear without relying on reputation.
i wonder how many people will end up looking like jrod following the advice of jrod, moody, la cour, dante, norton, etc? i also wonder how many will end up looking like him following the advice of gh15?
oh right, i forgot that the thousands, actually millions, of kids listening to the natural wonders all lack the dedication, genetics, drive, and any other of a thousand other unquantifiable, quasi-mystical qualities.
::)
lol.... not unnatural?
anybody that is both muscular and conditioned at the same time is on some type of drugs!
human body works this way:
muscular and big = fat i think you guys call it bloofy....
muscular and conditioned = skinny,as in lanky
i am talking bodybuilding here..... not normal people
so someone that has both qualities is on drugs.
this jrod guy does not look natural ... lol!
very good physique, just he is a big liar...
True, but Jrod doesn't look that UN-natural to me and could be drug free at that body wt.WTF??????? Are you nuts , that is an enhanced looking muscle - I bet you buy all the latest supplements to cos "natural" guys in the mags say they take them and thats why they look like they do ::)
WTF??????? Are you nuts , that is an enhanced looking muscle - I bet you buy all the latest supplements to cos "natural" guys in the mags say they take them and thats why they look like they do ::)
Christian Boeving lost his MuscleTech contract because he was honest - he said to build a body like his you need to take steroids and the supplements wont get you there , he is a guy targeted for the more natural look - compare him to these genetic surperiors that are claiming "natural"
Jesus some of you guys are dense :-\
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WTF??????? Are you nuts , that is an enhanced looking muscle - I bet you buy all the latest supplements to cos "natural" guys in the mags say they take them and thats why they look like they do ::)
Christian Boeving lost his MuscleTech contract because he was honest - he said to build a body like his you need to take steroids and the supplements wont get you there , he is a guy targeted for the more natural look - compare him to these genetic surperiors that are claiming "natural"
Jesus some of you guys are dense :-\
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Jrod is certianly no natural phenominon like the failcon
Waddy, that video is haunting. Would you do me the honour of making me an avatar? I would be forever grateful.
i can barely use microsoft paint let alone an custom avatar there stud
Haha, great video, jfal. I'm all drugs and yet, I'm not even on your level.
I don't know how this would work and all, but something like this.
If you guys really cared enough, and there were really enough of you who cared (more people = less $/person). I would be happy to (for the sake of the bodybuilding community) subject myself to random drug tests, whenever, as many times throughout the year as you guys want (you gotta find a place close to my home of course). Find someone reputable, that you guys trust, on here, get them the money, and have them supervise. Find a company to sponsor all this, whatever, however you wanna do it. If people like cephissus, GH15 and whoever else really cared about these kids so much, the kids I'm causing misery to with all my lies about being natural, put up some money and I'm down for it. Save these kids from the misery by proving I'm on drugs, and get the satisfaction of knowing your beliefs and what can be done without drugs are accurate.
Of course this will never happen, so we can just continue as is.
you are a dick.
ive never used hgh, tren, mast, prop and whatever other shit u crap on about...just plain old test e and cyp and have 20.5 inch arms.
and ive never gone above 400mg a week (2mls) either.
more evidence that u havent seen anything done other than by blasting loads of gear and training like a lazy loser.
N0T TRUE. Y0U CAN BE MUSCULAR AND LEAN. I'M 5 11 182 LBS AND L00K VERY LEAN AND MUSCULAR AS A NATURAL.
I don't know how this would work and all, but something like this.
If you guys really cared enough, and there were really enough of you who cared (more people = less $/person). I would be happy to (for the sake of the bodybuilding community) subject myself to random drug tests, whenever, as many times throughout the year as you guys want (you gotta find a place close to my home of course). Find someone reputable, that you guys trust, on here, get them the money, and have them supervise. Find a company to sponsor all this, whatever, however you wanna do it. If people like cephissus, GH15 and whoever else really cared about these kids so much, the kids I'm causing misery to with all my lies about being natural, put up some money and I'm down for it. Save these kids from the misery by proving I'm on drugs, and get the satisfaction of knowing your beliefs and what can be done without drugs are accurate.
Of course this will never happen, so we can just continue as is.
Hold on so you can use 200 tren everyday gh15. I've seen a few postings where you say guys do it everyday. What does this end up looking like when combined with gh anyway?
I don't know who those other guys you mentioned are but the 202 guys are all about 62-65 inches tall. Jeff is 69 inches tall. So 20 lbs less and 4-7 inches taller isn't even close. I know Jeff and have watched him train over the past 5 years. No one including Zane trains as hard or as scientificly as Jeff does. And Zane didn't have the same genetics for gaining muscle that Jeff has. You all need to remember that Zane rose to the top because he represented an attainable physique. Besides, I don't see Frank Zane calling Jeff a liar.please stop bringing zane a 3 time mr olympia into jrods thread,and all due respect to jrod who has a great build,,,frank zane still to most trainees ,bbers build still does not have an attainable physique due to ushering in at the time unseen muscle conditioning,muscularity..there is still a big difference here a very good competitior and a still former 3 time mr olympia who set a standard at the time for shape and condition.
Everyone at Bodybuilding.com was right about this place. Nothing but losers and haters. Cmon Jeff, let's take our hard work and dedication elsewhere. Its clearly not welcome here.
29 fking pages!!!![/b]
you are a dick.Bahaha sure you do fatman - theres a huge diff between a fatty like you with 20 inch plus arms and a bodybuilder walking around with same sized arms but at 6-8 %.. shit a 17inch ripped arm would look bigger and better that your fat washer woman bits of blubber.
ive never used hgh, tren, mast, prop and whatever other shit u crap on about...just plain old test e and cyp and have 20.5 inch arms.
and ive never gone above 400mg a week (2mls) either.
more evidence that u havent seen anything done other than by blasting loads of gear and training like a lazy loser.
rodrigez you know why this wil never happen? let me tell why so you understand ,,ill even type with less spelling mistakes so its clear for the slow pokes among us,,
on olm right now there is a fucker name pd whatever that ran away with bodybuild money and sold gh that ofcourse he never delivered on ,,not even approved source... and yet did a quicky on the cult ,, many lost money due to this fella who for months was praising hgh ....specific hgh....from china and gues what mr pd did....he actualy brought igf blood tests...ofcourse easy to manipulate and fake...he brought them and showed them and put everyone into belief in his hgh balonie...because blood test never lie...and papers can not be faked ...especially on internet right? you know like gh15 knows that the easiest way is to cheat a test,,easiest way especialy for TEAM UNIVERSE COMPETITOR,,THEY ARE PROS AT CHEATING TESTS..you dont get to team universe competition unless you are highly experienced in cheating tests and in doing it well! ,, sometimes once in a blue moon soeone fails but everyone in this level of competition is a pro at cheating ,,cheating life practically,,
this is just one example of many many problems the cult has...and you come here ask for money for tests ,,who is gonna sponsor you money for blood test,,why would they even waste a dime when christian which has BTTER physiqe than you and he does...because he was top fitness model same level as sagi...christian says to everyone how it is and lost contract ,,he took the risk he lost money but he got respect....not many have the ability to take respect over money ,,he did it ,,the problem is he payed DEARLY for it ,,
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bobbie never sucked cock... you seen his wifey? she was annoying when she was younger but still didnt look like a man to me ,,actualy very attractive,,
ummmm jason never sucked a cock...you seen his wifey? nto the best looking girl but defenitely in shape and good body,,have you seen sharis wife? barbara is not ugly she is quite cute ,,he didnt suck no cock,, have you seen peter putnams wife? she is not my type but defenitely fuckable....he didnt suck no cock,,many many straight no homo bodybuilders around,,MANY,,some are homos some are not,,dont just scream gay for pay when its not always true,,some are some are not...
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ofcourse you have 20 inch arm ...lol and you are also in great condition 6% and ready to step on stage only missing little diazide ...right? lol stop with the balonie,,200mg of cyp is not enough for anything but get your sex drive back on track and even that! is not garenteed with the quality of powder americano clinic use now day ...lol 400mg a week usualy result in nothing but some perma bulker walking around 205lb at 18% saying to everyone he is 13% ,,get out of here with your balonie
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it means..29 fking pages!!!![/b]
please stop bringing zane a 3 time mr olympia into jrods thread,and all due respect to jrod who has a great build,,,frank zane still to most trainees ,bbers build still does not have an attainable physique due to ushering in at the time unseen muscle conditioning,muscularity..there is still a big difference here a very good competitior and a still former 3 time mr olympia who set a standard at the time for shape and condition.I only bring up Zane because my uncle trained with him and while Zane trained hard from the stories I was told he was part of the group of the day that believed in resting 3-4 minutes between sets. I've trained alongside Jeff and the guy knocks out 4-5 drop sets in halve the time that Zane rested. There is no question that Jeff trains harder and more intense than Zane ever did. How could Zane train like that when he didn't have the same knowlidge back then.
I only bring up Zane because my uncle trained with him and while Zane trained hard from the stories I was told he was part of the group of the day that believed in resting 3-4 minutes between sets. I've trained alongside Jeff and the guy knocks out 4-5 drop sets in halve the time that Zane rested. There is no question that Jeff trains harder and more intense than Zane ever did. How could Zane train like that when he didn't have the same knowlidge back then.
Nowadays Zane would be at least 20 lbs heavier and probably be winning the 202 class every year. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of Zane and my uncle still speaks to him on occasion but the Zane of 79 couldn't hold a candle to the Jeff of 2011. That's just the truth. Sorry if it hurts your feelings. I thought this was the tough board LOL!
\the Zane of 79 couldn't hold a candle to the Jeff of 2011. That's just the truth.
Didn't you say that Jeff is without a doubt natural? How can you make an argument that 3-time Olympia champ of the 70s is worse than a modern day natural bodybuilder? Are we to believe that nutrient timing and modern squat technique can make up the difference of AAS?? You're just throwing Jrod under the bus, almost like calling him a liar and all.I didn't say anything about squat technique or that other bs your spewing. If you don't think training intensity makes a difference than you probably have very little muscle to speak of. I'm only 5'6 but using supersets and heavy weights with very little rest [<20s] between sets allowed me to go from a lean 140 to a lean 160 cutting to 154 and winning a few shows at lightweight. Mind you I'm not very strong but I'm pointing out the difference that training advances have made and the knowlidge we now bring with us to the gym. All that nonsense about whey and windows is just smoke and mearors.
I only bring up Zane because my uncle trained with him and while Zane trained hard from the stories I was told he was part of the group of the day that believed in resting 3-4 minutes between sets. I've trained alongside Jeff and the guy knocks out 4-5 drop sets in halve the time that Zane rested. There is no question that Jeff trains harder and more intense than Zane ever did. How could Zane train like that when he didn't have the same knowlidge back then.Naturals can not get away with intense training like that, at least not for to long - so enhanced recovery from drugs. ::)
Nowadays Zane would be at least 20 lbs heavier and probably be winning the 202 class every year. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of Zane and my uncle still speaks to him on occasion but the Zane of 79 couldn't hold a candle to the Jeff of 2011. That's just the truth. Sorry if it hurts your feelings. I thought this was the tough board LOL!
Naturals can not get away with intense training like that, at least not for to long - so enhanced recovery from drugs. ::)
Exactly, the best results over a period of time I ever got were basically 3x a week training...imo, if you are average as a natural more than that can lead to overtraining.Add to the fact he likes to stay quite lean in the offseason
Exactly, the best results over a period of time I ever got were basically 3x a week training...imo, if you are average as a natural more than that can lead to overtraining.
getny that will probably show up his face on page 35 saying somethign about him being 249.5 lb natural and saying he got new product that he made sure stabelize the little peptides out of the creatine to change their shape into little turinabols and penetrate the body through the kidnys in reverse action...
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I doubt that training one hour every day will lead to "overtraining".
Depends on your split of course, but if you don't do a full body workout ed, you'll get away with 5-6 training days as a natural. Still, results will not be anywhere near the results a juicer has.
I doubt that training one hour every day will lead to "overtraining".But training the way "natural" j-rod is as claimed by his bum buddy - than that will send a natural into OT mode pretty damm quick
Depends on your split of course, but if you don't do a full body workout ed, you'll get away with 5-6 training days as a natural. Still, results will not be anywhere near the results a juicer has.
Natural jrod wouldn't look bad in this line up.No disrespect to Jrod but the size and shape of those legends would blow him away.
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Jrod and the bodybuilders who compete in the Team Universe exist in the world of real , contest bodybuilding and pass a real drug test. It may not be perfect but it is an actual test.
gh15 only exists as some BB forum guru and we have no idea who or what he is.
You are some virtual avatar and other then some amusement,( on some of your silly posts) you don't even exist in real bodybuilding.
Nobody that matters in bodybuilding takes you serious. Enjoy your virtual fame with your fans hehehe
the resson you achieve nothing in bodybuilding is this exact goolability you posted in this post,,you are exactly a version of the 15 year goolible that been lied to ,,only you are in your 50s...
if you did have a clue you woudl know how much your heros ME INCLUDED because im your hero ,,you would know how mcuh we used before we became pros,,and after ,, we are ALL DRUGS you got lots of examples LOTS OF THEM to what happen when we quit,,you know it too ,,you just live in your 1982 flex magazine where you saw cory and samir working out and shouting hard worl hard work...you are the what i try to prevent from many many many kids from becoming,,i would say i succeed amazingly ,,infact im taken so seriously in the bodybuilding world that the gh15 internet name get offers for business on a regular basis,,,
a gimick can only last few months,,a year maybe,,this is the real deal bud
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Natural jrod wouldn't look bad in this line up.
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yes howard is still a kid.
So what if Jrod is bigger than Zane? YOu guys are forgetting that supplements have improved, and our knowledge of bodybuilding has improved too!
Kick ass dude!
So what if Jrod is bigger than Zane? YOu guys are forgetting that supplements have improved, and our knowledge of bodybuilding has improved too!
Kick ass dude!
baahahahahahahahaaaaaaa, thats hilarious.
So what if Jrod is bigger than Zane? YOu guys are forgetting that supplements have improved, and our knowledge of bodybuilding has improved too!
Kick ass dude!
So what if Jrod is bigger than Zane? YOu guys are forgetting that supplements have improved, and our knowledge of bodybuilding has improved too!Hahaha!!! ;D
Kick ass dude!
So what if Jrod is bigger than Zane? YOu guys are forgetting that supplements have improved, and our knowledge of bodybuilding has improved too!
Kick ass dude!
Dude, come on. Supplements have no advanced to that degree.
Anyone with a brain in their skull knows that Jrods level of condition, fullness and muscularity is almost impossible to attain naturaly. As mentioned, if he is natty, he's got some ultra elite gentics. It's the equivalent of walking while sitting down. Mortal human bodies are not able to that shredded and that full.
JRod, you will compete in the Team Universe and when you pass the drug test, go down as an OFFICIAL entrant of the biggest drug tested NPC event. While your calfs are a weak pt, your overall physique looks ripped and impressive.
I had the chance to compete in the 1st ever NPC Team U , back in 1994 and skipped it.
I would NOT have won, but I will always regret NOT going to compete in it.
IGNORE most of the negative fools on this and other forums. Most don't even "exist" in the world of REAL bodybuilding contests.
They are internet heros only and are little more then bodybuilding forum "SIMs" characters
No disrespect to Jrod but the size and shape of those legends would blow him away.
They are some of the best in history.
The pic doesn't do justice to those incredible hall of fame legends of the Olympia stage.
why bother?
you are a LIAR
J rod, you look great man! If i were you i would stay of forums like this, Too much negitivity. Best of luck with the rest of your prep. Have u ever thought of doing the inba olyimipa?
Ronnie won Mr Olympia naturally, anything can happen. ;)
I didn't say anything about squat technique or that other bs your spewing. If you don't think training intensity makes a difference than you probably have very little muscle to speak of
Jeff is a mesomorph and all you tough jackasses are proving that by claiming he's saucing. Envy is nearly as big a bitch as the powderpuffs on this board. Lol. Jeff, why bother?(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413323;image)
So what if Jrod is bigger than Zane? YOu guys are forgetting that supplements have improved, and our knowledge of bodybuilding has improved too!
Kick ass dude!
You're disgusting
Thanks, Howard, I appreciate that.What wt class do you plan on getting in at the Team U?
I don't take the negativity personally and don't let it bother me once I get off my computer and back into real life.
Hahaha, you actually think Zane use 2g of test per week? I would say he didn't use 1g per week of everything combined!!
No disrespect to JROD but compared to a top pro at his frame and stature, he isn't that great.
YES< he is lean, hard and in ripped condition but he isn't all that big.
Drugs only enhance what is there and makes it bigger and more freaky looking on stage.
JROD would need to be a LOT bigger to even look like he belonged on a pro stage.
JROD is goood for a national level natty, and let's cheer him on for that.
Dude, come on. Supplements have no advanced to that degree.
Anyone with a brain in their skull knows that Jrods level of condition, fullness and muscularity is almost impossible to attain naturaly. As mentioned, if he is natty, he's got some ultra elite gentics. It's the equivalent of walking while sitting down. Mortal human bodies are not able to that shredded and that full.
Not true, when you are natural and you train very very hard you will LOSE muscle even if you diet is checked, I'm talking from my own experience and from watching delusionals 17-19 years old guys who train hard as fcuk for some time and them become smaller. I've seen this many times.(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413323;image)
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Stop making a clown of yourself, you're not talking with 16 yo kids you meet in the gym.
You're disgusting
Hahaha, you actually think Zane use 2g of test per week? I would say he didn't use 1g per week of everything combined!!
And you know this from looking at me and him? LOL
Ok let us do a getbig comparison.
JROD - Has posted actual pics, and will compete in a big NPC contest , the team U. He is willing to take the drug test required to compete to PROVE is he drug free .He is real bodybuilder who competes in real contests with a real impressive amatuer body.
GH15- an unknown poster on various BB forums with some interesting , unverified opinions on drug use in BB. GH15 is also obssessed with the idea that anyone can make reasonable gains without drugs. Outside of internet forums who knows if GH15 even exists as anyone close to what he claims.
Hmmm, who is the nutball loser? You call it?
See son, there ya go making accusations again. Fact is I've never used GH in my life and once again, I didn't "fail" at bodybuilding like you because I've never persued being a pro bodybuilder. I'd say more than 75% of the posters on here could careless about being a "pro". Funny how you say that everyone is on something but you fail to realize different body types (meso, ecto and endomorphs) have dieeferent responces to whatever they take. You can't expect an endo to have the same response and say and ecto. Am I getting a little to deep for ya, should I explain it more? Draw a picture maybe?
I used to think "some" of what you posted was interesting. Now you seem like some delusional, bitter wackjob.
Trying to talk reason to you, is like trying to talk sense to a drunk in a bar.
Maybe some wannabees will listen to you, but I can't waste my time on your nonsense any longer.
Good luck, no hard feelings.
Well, here its almost 10pm and here's GH15 right on que posting novels after his first line of crank for the night...Its going to be a loong night!I predict that lunatic will stretch this thread to 100 pages
I predict that lunatic will stretch this thread to 100 pages
Sick in the head... Anyone who posts a pic who looks decent immediately he will find the thread and start talking about drugs.... Complete loser ...
hes been following me around fr years.... he is mental..
needs to be banned....
anytime anyone posts any kind of pics he HAS to post on that thread accusing people of taking whatever...
sick in the head... trust me this threat will hit at least 50 pages because he wont stop...
what a complete loser....
You are 100% correct, thats exactly what happened with this thread. You you look at the first few comments on the first page there was nothing said about natural or clean until gh15 chimed in and started all this bullshit. And the interesting thing is , he only does this when the person could really be natural, thats when he really wants to make his presence heard. He never did this with adrain, even though that guy claimed natural. Because he knew that no one would believe adrain. I guarntee you that there are people viewing this thread that will never post in it that will believe jrod, and thats what bugs gh15 the most. He isn't arguing to prove his point to the people that are posting in this thread. He wants to flood this thread with as many of his bullshit posts as he can so that someone skimming over this thread will get his point of view.
this thread will hit 100 pages because of liars as yourself,,you are a kid from jamaica that sit in england that is taking anabolic steroids and can not even look like a bodybuilder,,do you look like a bodybuidr? show them your legs you disgusting slob ,,show them! you have no legs ,,you are upper body hormonized shit!
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i just made an account solely to say this. i've been natural bodybuilding for about 3 years hard. as many may know after those years its harder and harder to progress. i'm about 177 lbs at 9% natty. this guy has been training for what ten years or so? Looked at his pics again to make sure and it's really hard i mean really hard to believe that's attainable . look at the size of his fuking quad/hamstring in the side pose! Look at the back condition. Stage ready almost at 190's lbs? I used to be that naive kid so I won't make fun of anyone's opinions, but what i do hate is people on hormones who lie, come on..
Now thats what I'm talking about! Fresh fish, new blood is just what we need to keep this party alive. Carry on, my friend, and welcome to Team Jroid! :)I'm not saying you use yes or no ...there's no way i can say for sure, only you know that. If you are truly natty, even if not, props thats a sick physique. Carry on it's time for me to eat! ;D
I'm not saying you use yes or no ...there's no way i can say for sure, only you know that. If you are truly natty, even if not, props thats a sick physique. Carry on it's time for me to eat! ;D
i just made an account solely to say this. i've been natural bodybuilding for about 3 years hard. as many may know after those years its harder and harder to progress. i'm about 177 lbs at 9% natty. this guy has been training for what ten years or so? Looked at his pics again to make sure and it's really hard i mean really hard to believe that's attainable . look at the size of his fuking quad/hamstring in the side pose! Look at the back condition. Stage ready almost at 190's lbs? I used to be that naive kid so I won't make fun of anyone's opinions, but what i do hate is people on hormones who lie, come on..
what happen in this thread is that fella lik keyoshoo modi and chris faildo only to a lesser degree since he doesnt make guest posing out of it ...yet...has come to shout natural ,,,and for generations sake ,,i demonstrated loud and clear,,with great examples,,why he is hormonized,, i made it very easy for someone new on getbig..in furutre if im alive or not to come here get in the bible and read and be able to understand why what how and when bodybuild starts and eneds,,
there is still times when god of hormones need to come itself and do the job,,sometime no one else can ,,this was one of those times,,
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and even though i havent directly responded t this guy in years he always follows me around....
no shame... no pride
needs to be banned....
Yeah but in this case you didn't even let anyone else call him a juice head, you were the first one to join in. Once again I repeat: THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF NATURAL AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THREAD UNTIL YOU JUMPED IN. To the people that are reading this if you don't believe me, go to the first page and see what I am talking about. I have been saying over and over that you are drug dealer, most of the people on this board know it. Unfortunately most people think that you are involved mostly with NPC amateurs and maybe some pros. They don't realize that your bread and butter are the people that never want to step on a stage or look like Jay Cutler. They simply want to be lean and muscular, kinda like Jrod. That's why your attacking him so much, because you know that your bread and butter cutomers want to look him and you have to make sure that the only way that they know to get there is through you. They are your bread and butter because:
A: there are many more of them than those that want to compete and make a carreer out of bodybuilding
B: they don't know shit about what you are selling them, you can pretty much charge them whatever you want and they will take your word for it like all the other idiots on here.
yep ,,smart fella you are,,177lb 9% thats where it ends naturally friend,,i assume you are around 5'9 5'10,,pretty much it ,,you can train another 20 years ,,wont chnage a thing ..little more muscle maturity and thats about it ,,you will remain 177-182 8-10% ,,garenteed,,thats even if you use halodrol and superdrol and orals..youll just get bigger on them for a while then lose it all back to point origin ,,Thanks, been reading your posts for a while :) . Spot on on my height too at 5'10 and i'm 20 years old. Like i said used to be that 15 year old noob eating up info from gym gurus that had me in dream land saying i could be this or that natty. I've saved your post on how to blow up right too, should be interesting to say the least if i save enough money/decide to pursue that road in bb'ing.
the only way to make steady gains is needle in the ass and or tablets through in the liver on constistant basis,,hormones sq or im will enhanced those results into new dimentions
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Notice how the people whining about gh15's anonymity are, almost without exception, also renowned as some of the stupidest, most incoherent people on the board. They really can never know how sad their posts look to people who can actually think.
Again, how many people following the advice of all the "natural" greats can achieve their same success? None? Oh, but of course it's because they lack [insert vague quality (genetics, determination, etc) here]. Maybe all these "natural" experts just suck at explaining themselves?
Weird then how, on the other hand, you've got people blowing up left and right following the advice of a guy who can barely even be said to write in English.
he doesnt believe it ,,he knows better,,he just lies or in other words of generation nothingess ...twisting reality ,,but trust me fells knows very very well about hormones
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That's a GREAT fucking point...Dildo sniffers like Layne "the human ball of shit" Norton have thousands of disciples who hang on his every word and follow his training philosophy, workouts and diets to the fucking micron...funny how they all look like shit and don't get as strong as he is. he doesn't have a stable of impressive proteges that he produced with his methods
Someone takes gear, (real gear) and BOOM, they get bigger and stronger....amazing ::)
This is one of your responses to me from earlier in this thread.
So which one is it:
I " know very well about hormones"
or
Am I talking out of my ass and know nothing and look like shit
Thanks, been reading your posts for a while :) . Spot on on my height too at 5'10 and i'm 20 years old. Like i said used to be that 15 year old noob eating up info from gym gurus that had me in dream land saying i could be this or that natty. I've saved your post on how to blow up right too, should be interesting to say the least if i save enough money/decide to pursue that road in bb'ing.
j Rod, can you post a picture where you are posing next to an average person? We need some scale.
I am not trying to be a dick. AS I said, you could be natural, and if you are, your genetics are elite.
Do you have any pictures when you are not pumped?
no geezer ,,you getting a little dumber than usual ,,body type is balonie,,if you use hormones for long enough you become mesomorph type period no ifs no buts,, while you are on the drugs liek any bodybuilder you are mesomorph ,,dont bring me a stupid body diff type balonie ,,endomorph is a fatzo,,meso is muscular and fit in condition fella,,ecto is a skinntwink,,,the end!
you used hgh ,,yuo didndt have enough money to use what it takes,,this is one thing you didnt catch on to early enough ,,,even in the 90s..you just didnt catch on to it ,, you didnt use enough thus never grew....your own gh production was and even now is down the shits ,,especialy now its down the shitter thats why youare small fat individual....and only look somewhat decent on stage after usage of hormones on regular basis that include gh!,,
i dont know who pay you money to train them ,,but i woudnt recomend it to anyone,,anyone period,,because you are the type of fella that before he meet a client wil pull one of the diets lorie rip girl did on some femal board and give it to client ....this is just the type of fella i personalty think you are,,
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Sooo, you're trying to tell us if some one takes enough shit they can become something they are GENETICALLY NOT? You're trying to tell me and the rest of the people on here that you can GENETICALLY change your body type??
Personally because of this comment I wouldn't want you banned but rather I want to stay and post more just so people can realize how fucking dumb you really are.....take the high lighted quote just as an example.
I'll be waiting eagerly for this answer!!
yes ,,you can change your body ,,there is no such a thing as chiwawa and pitball ,, i told you before,,sean name was chiwawa as a joke ,,,there is no such thing as this endo meso ecto balonie,,its all combo of all ,,everyone has everything in them ,,depending on what they eat and how they wer eraised,,you for exampel are just fat little man ,,you also look mexicano ...does this mean you are ..no it doesnt ,,but you just look so short and petite ,,with softness that only mexicans resemble...this is you though,,
the point is that with HGH you can change your physiqe,,have new miniums ,,and the prime example is liar priest,,he changed his physiqe for ever with the usage of cadavar gh,,
your understanding of bodybuilding coach is ZERO ,,you have no clue about the drugs or youre just a LIAR,,i go with liar,,
most fellas here thikn you are a liar,,just ask around,,do a poll ask who think im a liar and twister of reality ,,lets see what this poll brings....
i say over 75% of the boarding think you are a twister or reality and a man locked in his own self image ,,twisted image,,
you are FAT,,even when you competed you were fat ,,on hormones but too fat
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that fella is a twig when he started,,this is the definition of skinny ,,and this is most likley already with stuff coming in for 2001-2005 was mexicano heaven,,everyone was bodybuild then ,,if you knew the years youd would why he even got into the cult...
fellas here have no clue its realy sad,,
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typo know bro science,,you know what internet thought you,,when i say you know better what i mean is that deep inside you know he is hormonized,,you know in general that test is better buy than other stuff because its cheaper...what you dont know is that its not the truth ...you dont know that what give us better physiqe and wuality physiqe is the usage of trenbolona ace,,masterona ,,oxandrolona,,npp,,equipona,,and then ofcourse hgh that you ofcourse dont know that in less than 90 days on legit gh of quality your physiqe can tranform to a better one than rodrigez...and that with not much diet...this is what you dont know ,,you know bro science tought on internet on steroid board,,the type of fella that iwll have nolvadex before he even put one inject of steroid into the ass...the type of fella that will chase down the gym and talk about not wanting to hav etits when injecting total of 500 mg of aas in the ass ...when you dont even need anti estrogen ...the type of fella that will not start a cycle with out anti estrogen even if he has masterona on hand....when masteorna is the best anti estrogen there is... the type of fella that will do pct because he heard so on steroid board...when in reality pct is complete and utter balonie useless,,the type of fella that will just know a thing or 2 about products but really have no hands on experience,,
thats what i meant friend
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Anyone know Sandow's height and weight? Just curious...Fucking Druggie junkie roid head Sandow...
and even though i havent directly responded t this guy in years he always follows me around....
no shame... no pride
needs to be banned....
He's a broken record, lol - the same shit over and over and over. I just skip his posts.
Jrod looks great and I believe him, although not guys like Kyoshi Moody or Skip LaCour. Put Jrod next to guys like Arnold or Sergio and you'll see he looks much smaller than them. It's the Phil Heath syndrome - look HUGE by yourself because of small joints and round bellies, but nowhere near big when standing next to others.
Kiwiol, do you know a lot of juicers and competitive bodybuilders? How much of the drug culture have you seen?
my knowledge of human physiology is light years of your Flex and Muscle and Fitness knowledge of bodybuilding. You retard, do you even understand that human body types are genetic? That meso, ecto and endo is a component of not just muscularity but bone structure and bone density? Lets keep this shit going, this is going to get good!
Ill be 100% honest with you, 95% of what you just posted went over my head.
How about ill tell you what I DO know. I know how the dealers at the gyms I go to operate. They see a new guy at the gym, they watch him for about a month. After a month they approach him and start talking to him. They tell the guy they need a training partner and they like his consistency and dedication. Then during the training sessions they begin to lay the seed. They start pointing to people around the gym and say yeah this guy is using, that guy is using, the person himself starts picking out people and asking if they are using, to which the reply from the dealer is usually yes ( even though he has zno clue if its true). Then it goes to " you know if you're interested i may be able to get some for you, if you want to try it". The guy says he'll think about it, looks around, he sees people that he was told are using. Some clearly on, others hes not sure, but he takes his new buddy's word for it. I have seen this many times. And by the way youre right about these guys usually looking bloofy year round.
He's a broken record, lol - the same shit over and over and over. I just skip his posts.
Jrod looks great and I believe him, although not guys like Kyoshi Moody or Skip LaCour. Put Jrod next to guys like Arnold or Sergio and you'll see he looks much smaller than them. It's the Phil Heath syndrome - look HUGE by yourself because of small joints and round bellies, but nowhere near big when standing next to others.
THE WH0LE MES0 ECT0 IS TAKEN FR0M FLEX MAGAZINE. THERE IS N0 SUCH THING IN MEDICAL LITERATURE.
Hahahaha, that was good!
0UTDATED THE0RIES P0LULARIZED IN THE 1950'S WITH N0 SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.
not good example,,with shirt on he doenst even look liek he lift weight unless you arr female that like and dig muscle or like lean fellas with average size...those can see through clothes like xray ..they will notice something,,,the rest who will notice something with shirt on are fella like me who can just smell a fella and tell you his all hormones routine from a to z ,,but most people will not be impressed nor give a second look to rodrigez with shirt on ,,especialy in suit,,look too skinny due to the condition and the wanting of natural look with makes him use less testosterona which kill the thickness,,he only look big when on testosterona,,thats when he hit 190-200lb then he look impressive with clothes or with out
its a game of hormones and water manipulation my friends,,
pictures wont help here
he is def not genetics elite..what he is is a dedicated fella on consistant usage of hormones that knows and learned his body to the absolit t ,,still fuck up at times but he learn it well ,,is way of thinking is LESS IT BETTER,,he does it to stay natural look which indeed gives him superb condtion but make no mistake not even for a second ...fella knows hormones like his right hand
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0UTDATED THE0RIES P0LULARIZED IN THE 1950'S WITH N0 SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.
j Rod, can you post a picture where you are posing next to an average person? We need some scale.
I am not trying to be a dick. AS I said, you could be natural, and if you are, your genetics are elite.
Do you have any pictures when you are not pumped?
I know fuckall about drug culture and even lesser juicers, IRL. I have zero interest in steroids.
Let me guess - Jrod's a lying swine who juices? ;D
thats not skinny thats normal looking teen, abs and all.
some guys dont train but have 6pack, with no training or dieting, they eat whatever they want and dont gain a pound of fat. some guys sit around 8% eating burgers and mayonaise, thats the truth too, i know one.
Ill be 100% honest with you, 95% of what you just posted went over my head.
How about ill tell you what I DO know. I know how the dealers at the gyms I go to operate. They see a new guy at the gym, they watch him for about a month. After a month they approach him and start talking to him. They tell the guy they need a training partner and they like his consistency and dedication. Then during the training sessions they begin to lay the seed. They start pointing to people around the gym and say yeah this guy is using, that guy is using, the person himself starts picking out people and asking if they are using, to which the reply from the dealer is usually yes ( even though he has zno clue if its true). Then it goes to " you know if you're interested i may be able to get some for you, if you want to try it". The guy says he'll think about it, looks around, he sees people that he was told are using. Some clearly on, others hes not sure, but he takes his new buddy's word for it. I have seen this many times. And by the way youre right about these guys usually looking bloofy year round.
He's a broken record, lol - the same shit over and over and over. I just skip his posts.
Jrod looks great and I believe him, although not guys like Kyoshi Moody or Skip LaCour. Put Jrod next to guys like Arnold or Sergio and you'll see he looks much smaller than them. It's the Phil Heath syndrome - look HUGE by yourself because of small joints and round bellies, but nowhere near big when standing next to others.
from those pictures, jrod was a tiny little kid. what if the bigger boys trained as hard as he did? wouldn't that have a much better result?
Hahahaha, that was good!
I don't even care to comment on Jrod. But when you observe guys going on drugs, getting off drugs, switching drugs, seeing the major and subtle changes drugs induce, see this for years, see all types of guys with different builds taking drugs you're bound to learn something about the subject the guy who is not in it himself has no clue about. Especially if you've been in the culture for many years.
An experienced juicer can spot a 16 year old 130lb kid having started dbol 3 weeks ago. There are signs and it's not just sheer size. Drugs give a certain look. There is no type of genetic makeup that causes a juiced look.
I don't even care to comment on Jrod. But when you observe guys going on drugs, getting off drugs, switching drugs, seeing the major and subtle changes drugs induce, see this for years, see all types of guys with different builds taking drugs you're bound to learn something about the subject the guy who is not in it himself has no clue about. Especially if you've been in the culture for many years.
An experienced juicer can spot a 16 year old 130lb kid having started dbol 3 weeks ago. There are signs and it's not just sheer size. Drugs give a certain look. There is no type of genetic makeup that causes a juiced look.
I don't even care to comment on Jrod. But when you observe guys going on drugs, getting off drugs, switching drugs, seeing the major and subtle changes drugs induce, see this for years, see all types of guys with different builds taking drugs you're bound to learn something about the subject the guy who is not in it himself has no clue about. Especially if you've been in the culture for many years.
An experienced juicer can spot a 16 year old 130lb kid having started dbol 3 weeks ago. There are signs and it's not just sheer size. Drugs give a certain look. There is no type of genetic makeup that causes a juiced look.
I don't even care to comment on Jrod. But when you observe guys going on drugs, getting off drugs, switching drugs, seeing the major and subtle changes drugs induce, see this for years, see all types of guys with different builds taking drugs you're bound to learn something about the subject the guy who is not in it himself has no clue about. Especially if you've been in the culture for many years.
An experienced juicer can spot a 16 year old 130lb kid having started dbol 3 weeks ago. There are signs and it's not just sheer size. Drugs give a certain look. There is no type of genetic makeup that causes a juiced look.
I don't even care to comment on Jrod. But when you observe guys going on drugs, getting off drugs, switching drugs, seeing the major and subtle changes drugs induce, see this for years, see all types of guys with different builds taking drugs you're bound to learn something about the subject the guy who is not in it himself has no clue about. Especially if you've been in the culture for many years.
An experienced juicer can spot a 16 year old 130lb kid having started dbol 3 weeks ago. There are signs and it's not just sheer size. Drugs give a certain look. There is no type of genetic makeup that causes a juiced look.
I don't even care to comment on Jrod. But when you observe guys going on drugs, getting off drugs, switching drugs, seeing the major and subtle changes drugs induce, see this for years, see all types of guys with different builds taking drugs you're bound to learn something about the subject the guy who is not in it himself has no clue about. Especially if you've been in the culture for many years.
An experienced juicer can spot a 16 year old 130lb kid having started dbol 3 weeks ago. There are signs and it's not just sheer size. Drugs give a certain look. There is no type of genetic makeup that causes a juiced look.
You don't think he's got elite genetics if he truly is a natty?
j Rod, can you post a picture where you are posing next to an average person? We need some scale.
I am not trying to be a dick. AS I said, you could be natural, and if you are, your genetics are elite.
Do you have any pictures when you are not pumped?
jrod is only very conditioned, my guess is he takes some sort of water dropping supplement. hes not a big guy at all but is DEFINITLY takeing a form of a diuretic
Groink I gurantee you that even though you're on here propping up gh15, next week he will be right back to calling you a steroid abusing liar.
more (see previous page for the other ones)Doesn't matter what you post.. You could slit your throat to give these homos blood,and still they won't be pleased.. These Phucks are stuck on stupid.. Palumbo said it best,when he said,he thought you were not ready for a show,and then you posed,and all your muscles popped.. Phuck the haters.. No HUMMUSEXUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first of ,,NO ONE SKIP my postings you know it and i know it,,peole come here directly for my postings so dont make up balonie,,you included,,Actually I skip most of your posts. I only scan a few to keep an eye on your spelling and watch you repeat what you learn the night before. :)
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Epic sweat pants, apartment wall and door with five dollar dead bolt.
Easier to break in than finding roids in the next room.
Actually I skip most of your posts. I only scan a few to keep an eye on your spelling and watch you repeat what you learn the night before. :)
Here you go, some very unflattering pictures of me. Took these 5 mins ago, just standing in my house, regular lighting, not right after a workout, looking nothing special...
(by the way, thanks for making me post some shitty pictures of myself online. Haha, its all good)
Ditto, except for the scanning part, lmao!Just too much repitition in his posts, always the same drug stacks, cycles, skin tones and textures, mis-spelled words (sometimes)......alot of effort goes into that gimmick that's for sure!
If you diet right you don't need diuretics.
Just too much repitition in his posts, always the same drug stacks, cycles, skin tones and textures, mis-spelled words (sometimes)......alot of effort goes into that gimmick that's for sure!
wanna bet?
yet you keep sitting aqnd begging and askin pms for me to answer your balonie,,,Dude.. You keep on with this fail sh!t.. Yet you're on here with those who are beneath you? Get lost,if you're a winner,and we're all losers..
you are mishko pupil,,you saw what happened to your teacher,,you are fail just as him,,cant take you seriously
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Can't take someone who hides behind a keyboard spewing BS seriously either!
Dude.. You keep on with this fail sh!t.. Yet you're on here with those who are beneath you? Get lost,if you're a winner,and we're all losers..
yet you keep sitting aqnd begging and askin pms for me to answer your balonie,,,LMAO!!
you are mishko pupil,,you saw what happened to your teacher,,you are fail just as him,,cant take you seriously
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i give truth out,,wether you like it or not! ,,i give it for genrations to come not for you not for anyone specifically ,, i give it for history books,,So you're making history,with your ground breaking posts!? Most can't understand what the Phuck you're saying? Put your real name if you really want to make a difference.If you're no liar then put your info up? GH15 is not your real name,so that's a lie?. If not,you're just some bumbling idiot,that posts here.. Trust me,no history is being made in any of your posts..
this cult is FULL OF LIEING PIECES OF SHITS,, i decided in 2006 to make an end for it,,and look the genration i have raised of bodybuilder,,all advanced ,,all know aeverything there is about hormones,,just read through 2010 2011 postings around boardings on internet,,all has my mark on them ,,you can sense its my generation that i raised,,
this is what matters,,what you leave behind,,im done lieing like i used to ,,
truth shall set you free and it did me
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gh15 giving well deserved brutal ownings to the asshole liars and gullible retards people in this thread. keep it up god of hormona!You understand him?
So you're making history,with your ground breaking posts!? Most can't understand what the Phuck you're saying? Put your real name if you really want to make a difference.If you're no liar then put your info up? GH15 is not your real name,so that's a lie?. If not,you're just some bumbling idiot,that posts here.. Trust me,no history is being made in any of your posts..
The truth shall set you free!? From what ? From your own lies and past ? Please,go in to your cabinet,pull out the biggest syringe you can find,and load it up with Nubain,and bang away....! You're a joke.. Anyone that takes your advice,and puts their lives at stake,for the sake of being bigger than everyone at their gym,is as dumb as you,and deserve to lose their money to a loser like you..
will those kyoshi moody nuthuggers/beleivers finally see that drug tests in natural bodybuilding mean fkn nothing?
or are those same nuthuggers in this thread thinking "but this guy COULD BE natural" ?
how the fuck do they get away with it?
footsteps of a natural lier:
1, "drug test me now then. you pay for my test and i will do it right here right now"
2, "i dieted for 30 weeks.."
3, "ive been training for 20 years"
when they say even just 1 out of those 3 things to justify thier conditioning or size, he is a liar. if he says all 3 in the one sentance, shoot him on the spot.
they say this because they use it in the form of reverse phycology...you then start to think "well if he's willing to do this then he MUST be telling the truth".
its like the cheating whore who comes home late and says the same thing, "i was with cindy!!" she throws you her phone and says "call her if you dont fkn beleuve me you jerk!" and runs off. you wont call because she gave you the phone and told you to call her friend, she "must" be telling the truth.
go look at kyoshit moodys posts...all of them "anywhere anytime, test me!" and then says "as long as you pay for the test".
whos going to pay for that expensive test? what board member is going to meet in person just for this?
AND HE KNOWS THIS! ALL NATURALS ON BOARDS KNOW THIS!
so thats point number 1 as far as naturals screaming this on bodybuilding boards. your situation may be different because your boss may actually have a test waiting for you all paid in company expenses so no problem for him. im just talking about bodybuiklding boards and natural bodybuilders.
point number 2 is then their explaination as to why they are so freaky ripped...."well i have been dieting for 6 months..." ::)
point number 3 is then their explaination as to why so much muscle...."well i have been lifting weights for 20 years you know..." ::)
If you diet right you don't need diuretics.
Here you go, some very unflattering pictures of me. Took these 5 mins ago, just standing in my house, regular lighting, not right after a workout, looking nothing special...Far from unflattering my friend. I would kill to look that lean in the offseason.
(by the way, thanks for making me post some shitty pictures of myself online. Haha, its all good)
just make a poll seehow highly im regarded,,a simple poll,,done many times in the past,,what i say here is gold ,,you are very very lucky to withness it,,others register into this site only ONLY because of gh15 ,,they come here from muscular devlop to read gh15 ,,,from the fellon palumbo site to read gh15,,the actualy individuals that talkd about come herre only to read me liar priest already threten gh15 life....the fact i dont post it ...doesnt mean its not real,,Lucky to witness it!? LOL! No thank's .. I'm no loser that needs drug advice from a loser.. Highly regarded?!!! LOL..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA! You're such a loser.. What poll? 20/30 folks think you're something,out of all the members? You take this sh!t way to serious.. God of hom0's,not god of hormones.. I can imagine how many pics of guys you have on your computer ,with guys asking"GH,how are my glutes looking"? You're so queer.. I don't trust you,and you're not my friend.. I will never ,ever do drugs.. I work out to be healthy and fit,I have a gorgeous wife,beautiful children and a fantastic life! I'm not these dudes with low self esteem that you prey on.. You're the kind of person I tell my sons to stay away from and avoid.. Threaten your life.....? I would never,but I won't back down either.. You have your thing and I have mine.. What you do is wrong,that's why people go to jail for it,that's why it's done in private through Emails and P.M's.. So don't act as if you're special ,because you are not.. You're so good with prescriptions...? Go back to school and become a Dr.then you're special.. Otherwise,you're some chump being worshipped by bigger chumps..
trust me friend,,im the real deal ,,gh15 is gh15 thats all you need to know,,for you im god,,god of hormones
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bull shit i have just as much experience dieting as the best. i dieted on so many "perfect diets" in my life
dieting for a natural flattens you out and you rebound all the time its never ending
the only time i looked good was severe dehydration
so STFU
from my spewaing of balonie bodybuilders grow!! every one here grow from follwing my balonie.... look at the fellas stavio ,,look at spike,,look at dogma ,,look at the egyptian fella busleamo,,
i shoudnt even answer you but you are so misguided and tell them so much balonie and real balonie that i feel obligated to correct your misereble information and postings
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413438;image) jrod you honestly are coming off as a sad feeling person. just learn to joke around here and make falcon like videos. life isnt all about dieting . look man your face looks like shit from all the dieting like anorexic looking. look brother youve already accomplished a build that no one will ever match, but it wont make you happy and you dont seem happy. but I WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY BROTHER
i used to be just like you always trying to be the most ripped dude on the planet, its not worth it, its too obsessive. just go gain some fat for crying outloud and bang some good poon tang and play xbox and start a band
Lucky to witness it!? LOL! No thank's .. I'm no loser that needs drug advice from a loser.. Highly regarded?!!! LOL..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA! You're such a loser.. What poll? 20/30 folks think you're something,out of all the members? You take this sh!t way to serious.. God of hom0's,not god of hormones.. I can imagine how many pics of guys you have on your computer ,with guys asking"GH,how are my glutes looking"? You're so queer.. I don't trust you,and you're not my friend.. I will never ,ever do drugs.. I work out to be healthy and fit,I have a gorgeous wife,beautiful children and a fantastic life! I'm not these dudes with low self esteem that you prey on.. You're the kind of person I tell my sons to stay away from and avoid.. Threaten your life.....? I would never,but I won't back down either.. You have your thing and I have mine.. What you do is wrong,that's why people go to jail for it,that's why it's done in private through Emails and P.M's.. So don't act as if you're special ,because you are not.. You're so good with prescriptions...? Go back to school and become a Dr.then you're special.. Otherwise,you're some chump being worshipped by bigger chumps..
and this fella is the beswt genetics on getbig,,if you want to talk pure genetics daddy waddy has the best genetics on getbig,,listen to what he is telling you ,,dont look at his current condition or size...look at what he is tellin you ,,remember how he was.....remember his height...his frame,,his genetics is very good as i said best on this site....and read again what he is tellinyou mr traineer...daddy waddy is a legend it is good that you speak of him as such
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413438;image) jrod you honestly are coming off as a sad feeling person. just learn to joke around here and make falcon like videos. life isnt all about dieting . look man your face looks like shit from all the dieting like anorexic looking. look brother youve already accomplished a build that no one will ever match, but it wont make you happy and you dont seem happy. but I WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY BROTHER
i used to be just like you always trying to be the most ripped dude on the planet, its not worth it, its too obsessive. just go gain some fat for crying outloud and bang some good poon tang and play xbox and start a band
how about teaching yor sons to not go and fuck 13 year old girls behind your back....because thats how common it is in americana ,,,thats when they are ruining theri lives ...nto from wanting to be bodybuilders,,how about tel your sons to not drink that vodka and beers at 16 and get watsed and fart loud and burp loud because its not polite...eventhough in americana it make you being considered a man ,,,how about teach them how to sucesfuly last one marriage and not marry 37 times like coach or hward due to abuse of hormones and their failed dream of being a bodybuild that put them on trenbolona ace that ruined their marriages...
how about teaching your sons nto to come at age 16 and order shit online! behind your fuckin back to their friend adressssssss
ummmm? teach them that ok?
but no you prefer to go and fuck your girlfriend behind your wife back because wifey gained 30lb on you since you married her ,,,so no time to raise kidos...
this is how fake you fellas are lol
do a poll ,,, 20-30 % ,,the fuckin all internet is gh15 ,,every bodybuilder know who gh15 is ,,every single one on every singlre forum ,,im quated 10-20 times a day ,,wether its joking ,,wehter its something i said in regard to hormones,,i get fellas typing like me on steroid boards,,you have no clue ,,,i got a whole new style of writing into bodybuilding,,i have peole that actualy worship gh15,,its scary because its wrong ,,but oh they do
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lol
Some of you may not have the muscles of J-Rod, but at least you can rest comfortably knowing you aren`t mexican. Right?
Here you go, some very unflattering pictures of me. Took these 5 mins ago, just standing in my house, regular lighting, not right after a workout, looking nothing special...
(by the way, thanks for making me post some shitty pictures of myself online. Haha, its all good)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413438;image) jrod you honestly are coming off as a sad feeling person. just learn to joke around here and make falcon like videos. life isnt all about dieting . look man your face looks like shit from all the dieting like anorexic looking. look brother youve already accomplished a build that no one will ever match, but it wont make you happy and you dont seem happy. but I WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY BROTHERhaha..
i used to be just like you always trying to be the most ripped dude on the planet, its not worth it, its too obsessive. just go gain some fat for crying outloud and bang some good poon tang and play xbox and start a band
how about teaching yor sons to not go and fuck 13 year old girls behind your back....because thats how common it is in americana ,,,thats when they are ruining theri lives ...nto from wanting to be bodybuilders,,how about tel your sons to not drink that vodka and beers at 16 and get watsed and fart loud and burp loud because its not polite...eventhough in americana it make you being considered a man ,,,how about teach them how to sucesfuly last one marriage and not marry 37 times like coach or hward due to abuse of hormones and their failed dream of being a bodybuild that put them on trenbolona ace that ruined their marriages...Why don't you teach your children to be a drug dealer,like their dad..? Teach them how to speak in code,make internet deals through p.o. boxes and do locker room gym deals..? Out of the billions that use the net...you consider yourself a legend,because you're quoted 10/20 times a day? You live in a tiny world,not the the real world,but a tiny world where only 50/60 people exist..
how about teaching your sons nto to come at age 16 and order shit online! behind your fuckin back to their friend adressssssss
ummmm? teach them that ok?
but no you prefer to go and fuck your girlfriend behind your wife back because wifey gained 30lb on you since you married her ,,,so no time to raise kidos...
this is how fake you fellas are lol
do a poll ,,, 20-30 % ,,the fuckin all internet is gh15 ,,every bodybuilder know who gh15 is ,,every single one on every singlre forum ,,im quated 10-20 times a day ,,wether its joking ,,wehter its something i said in regard to hormones,,i get fellas typing like me on steroid boards,,you have no clue ,,,i got a whole new style of writing into bodybuilding,,i have peole that actualy worship gh15,,its scary because its wrong ,,but oh they do
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hopefully the gym will ban jrod from returning, there is much things to do with his life now that he quitI have to admit..I've never been a fan... But you sure do know how to lighten up a thread..
Why don't you teach your children to be a drug dealer,like their dad..? Teach them how to speak in code,make internet deals through p.o. boxes and do locker room gym deals..? Out of the billions that use the net...you consider yourself a legend,because you're quoted 10/20 times a day? You live in a tiny world,not the the real world,but a tiny world where only 50/60 people exist..
My wife and children, work in our shop.. A legitimate business... !
I must be a legend.because we see a lot more than 10/20 people per day?!
I've been with my wife for 25yrs.! She's gorgeous,and I don't have to be unfaithful to her.. That's not how my family works.. I believe,work hard,and love the one you're with.I work out with my son,and he has a great,natural physique,he also boxes... A beer bottle or cigarette has never touched my lips,and I teach my children the same.... I wake up with a good morning kiss,and go to bed with a good night kiss..
I don't complicate my life with thing's that can destroy my life and family.. If I suffer,they suffer! I won't do that to them.. So keep talking to your huge 10/20 quote worshippers,about thing's you know(drug,sickness and side affects)and don't talk about what you don't know,being a good role model,honesty ,and love.. Leave that to me kido!
hopefully the gym will ban jrod from returning, there is much things to do with his life now that he quitHe says he "enjoys" it...how can someone enjoy being ripped year round? you basically feel like shit, from personal experience.
The amusing thing about J-Rod is the unnecessary self torture he puts himself through by eating like a complete shit-brained schmuck. He made some remark in a video that he hadn`t eaten a pizza in 5 years or more or fast food in as long. A person like that is unstable and only is governed by fear, bro-science and an inability to realize that he does not have to engage in sadomasochism. He will claim he "likes" eating "clean" or what have you. His mental sickness and retardation has convinced himself of this. He does not realize that he would look the same regardless of what he eats, but he persists out of cowardice and fear. That is no way to live. But as I said, he will claim he enjoys it.
i barely train much anymore and still look the same although alot less cut but i can keep things under control i still eat what i want without destroying my life training everyday to the bone exhausting my muscles constantly
but what would we have spent more time doing than bodybuilding at the time is the question
He says he "enjoys" it...how can someone enjoy being ripped year round? you basically feel like shit, from personal experience.
lol i have hward de ja vu LOL,, i cant beklieve i even answer this shit lol oh man lol im laughin my ass hereLOL.... Listen GH.. I told you the truth about me.... Let's here yours? My life is not perfect.. But I'm no drug user,or drug dealer.. Read some of your posts.. People are getting tired of your sh!T.
enjoy life,,but dont assume ,,im not dealer
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He says he "enjoys" it...how can someone enjoy being ripped year round? you basically feel like shit, from personal experience.
exactly. always fukin around with your diet or fukin up the diet and doing damage control cardio sessions and shit like that. jrod has much other things on his mind, i bet he likes fukin fat assed hoes too but is sometimes ashamed of this desireHe could look like that year round and not have to diet at all and eat whatever he wants and not be miserable at all though all with no cardio to boot. Its his choice to live like a slave and have that giant albatross around his neck that is "clean eating". There is no such thing and its all complete bullshit yet as I said, he is governed by fear and won`t wake up to that fact.
exactly. always fukin around with your diet or fukin up the diet and doing damage control cardio sessions and shit like that. jrod has much other things on his mind, i bet he likes fukin fat assed hoes too but is sometimes ashamed of this desireYea, you get paranoid. And you "pinch" your lower abs skin 30x a day. fuck that.
LOL.... Listen GH.. I told you the truth about me.... Let's here yours? My life is not perfect.. But I'm no drug user,or drug dealer.. Read some of your posts.. People are getting tired of your sh!T.
The amusing thing about J-Rod is the unnecessary self torture he puts himself through by eating like a complete shit-brained schmuck. He made some remark in a video that he hadn`t eaten a pizza in 5 years or more or fast food in as long. A person like that is unstable and only is governed by fear, bro-science and an inability to realize that he does not have to engage in sadomasochism. He will claim he "likes" eating "clean" or what have you. His mental sickness and retardation has convinced himself of this. He does not realize that he would look the same regardless of what he eats, but he persists out of cowardice and fear. That is no way to live. But as I said, he will claim he enjoys it.
Yea, you get paranoid. And you "pinch" your lower abs skin 30x a day. fuck that.Why would you have to get paranoid? Are you governed by fear also as J-Rod is, albeit a different kind.
Im dieting nowadays but im more loose that when i have a "deadline" (contest)...and i actually enjoy it more.
in a couple weeks jrod will look back on this thread and think about what he did. I dont see him being the old jrod he hates anymoreA leopard cannot change his spots. Especially one who has confined himself to a cage.
Yea, you get paranoid. And you "pinch" your lower abs skin 30x a day. fuck that.
Im dieting nowadays but im more loose that when i have a "deadline" (contest)...and i actually enjoy it more.
Why don't you teach your children to be a drug dealer,like their dad..? Teach them how to speak in code,make internet deals through p.o. boxes and do locker room gym deals..? Out of the billions that use the net...you consider yourself a legend,because you're quoted 10/20 times a day? You live in a tiny world,not the the real world,but a tiny world where only 50/60 people exist..
My wife and children, work in our shop.. A legitimate business... !
I must be a legend.because we see a lot more than 10/20 people per day?!
I've been with my wife for 25yrs.! She's gorgeous,and I don't have to be unfaithful to her.. That's not how my family works.. I believe,work hard,and love the one you're with.I work out with my son,and he has a great,natural physique,he also boxes... A beer bottle or cigarette has never touched my lips,and I teach my children the same.... I wake up with a good morning kiss,and go to bed with a good night kiss..
I don't complicate my life with thing's that can destroy my life and family.. If I suffer,they suffer! I won't do that to them.. So keep talking to your huge 10/20 quote worshippers,about thing's you know(drug,sickness and side affects)and don't talk about what you don't know,being a good role model,honesty ,and love.. Leave that to me kido!
Haha ;D
ifbb pro,,top 6 olympia,,competed with the good generation too,, i have to keep my annonimity period,,too much things at risk like MY LIFE,,some felas do not like gh15 information they really really dont,,and they are convicts many convicts in the game ,,many!Awww.. Now I feel sad for you.. You obviously have a horrible life.. Having to put all of those drugs in your body,to be able to be a 6th place loser at the olympia? Damn..I'm sorry.. Now you're worried about the choices you made,coming back to bite you in the ass? Wow..
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the worst is when the so called natuals lol sit on the couch and see losee skin on their abdominal,,they go absolitly nuts lol ,,i seen it first hand,,they go insane if its nto rugged terrain because they sit at lowe bodyweight of 170-190 the enhanced naturals at 5'9 5'10 and they go insane when the skin on the abs is not shrinked wrapped ,,and it can easily happen when hormonized especialy on gh lolI personally think the natural competitors are more of mental cases than the roiders. It is amazing the great stranglehold that fear and paranoia have on them. The melancholy of it all is that they crafted the entire thing in their brain without any outside stimuli whatsoever.
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What's so funny Phaggot?
Haha ;D
lolLOL.. Let me gues..? This Phaggot,is on of the 10/20 quotes you get per day? LOL..
Look, there's just no way this guy is completely 'natural'... Even if he has never touched an illegal steroid, superdrol (methyl-masteron) is just as good as d-bol, and it's legal. Dienolone (delta-9-nandrolone) is comparable to deca, and it's legal. Methyl-DHT is legal. The list goes on... "Prohormones" these days are just as potent as "steroids".I`m sorry, he just doesn`t look like he is on drugs or ever has been to me. Highly Delusional and paranoid, Yes. On drugs, Never.
I personally think the natural competitors are more of mental cases than the roiders. It is amazing the great stranglehold that fear and paranoia have on them. The melancholy of it all is that they crafted the entire thing in their brain without any outside stimuli whatsoever.I used to be EXACTLY like what you are describing. I'd freak out if my meal was not taken in exactly 2.5 hours after the last. Would go out sometimes to party but rarely drink. Last month or two finally I let loose a little and decided to live and you know what?...I lost 10 lbs from 187 to 177 but all the drinking and less eating made me more cut lol. Granted I have a fast metabolism but you gotta live a little right? What's the point of killing yourself in the gym just to sit inside every night. I'm just glad I realized this with 2 more years of college left lol.
Look, there's just no way this guy is completely 'natural'... Even if he has never touched an illegal steroid, superdrol (methyl-masteron) is just as good as d-bol, and it's legal. Dienolone (delta-9-nandrolone) is comparable to deca, and it's legal. Methyl-DHT is legal. The list goes on... "Prohormones" these days are just as potent as "steroids".what the hell are you talking about?
haha..classic.
Haha ;D
I used to be EXACTLY like what you are describing. I'd freak out if my meal was not taken in exactly 2.5 hours after the last. Would go out sometimes to party but rarely drink. Last month or two finally I let loose a little and decided to live and you know what?...I lost 10 lbs from 187 to 177 but all the drinking and less eating made me more cut lol. Granted I have a fast metabolism but you gotta live a little right? What's the point of killing yourself in the gym just to sit inside every night. I'm just glad I realized this with 2 more years of college left lol.There you GO! See how pathetically easy it all REALLY is. Just keep training a bit, eat whatever you want and you will look the same if not better guaranteed. Some never realize it and J-Rod is certainly on a path to a life filled with misery probably unbeknownst to him at this point as he has gone this long out of habit and fear. Kind of like the vegetarian who will fight the smell of hot bacon cooking in an Iron Skillet and claim to be disgusted.
The amusing thing about J-Rod is the unnecessary self torture he puts himself through by eating like a complete shit-brained schmuck. He made some remark in a video that he hadn`t eaten a pizza in 5 years or more or fast food in as long. A person like that is unstable and only is governed by fear, bro-science and an inability to realize that he does not have to engage in sadomasochism. He will claim he "likes" eating "clean" or what have you. His mental sickness and retardation has convinced himself of this. He does not realize that he would look the same regardless of what he eats, but he persists out of cowardice and fear. That is no way to live. But as I said, he will claim he enjoys it.
Look, there's just no way this guy is completely 'natural'... Even if he has never touched an illegal steroid, superdrol (methyl-masteron) is just as good as d-bol, and it's legal. Dienolone (delta-9-nandrolone) is comparable to deca, and it's legal. Methyl-DHT is legal. The list goes on... "Prohormones" these days are just as potent as "steroids".
whoa whoa whoa!!!!!
jroid please tell me that adonis is wrong and that it hasnt been FIVE years since you've had a pizza.....
whoa whoa whoa!!!!!its sad.
jroid please tell me that adonis is wrong and that it hasnt been FIVE years since you've had a pizza.....
Why would you have to get paranoid? Are you governed by fear also as J-Rod is, albeit a different kind.I actually agree to some point with the calorie is a calorie theory..but not to diet down, only to maintain what you have, especially if youre lean you can basically eat your "clean" meals during the day, throw in couple "junk" ones..you gain NO fat and you actually look better.
Again, you can eat whatever you want, and maintain your muscle in permanent single digits. Its not difficult at all to do. Its so laughingly easy, it renders the whole thing rather pathetic.
Maybe he doesn't like pizza . I haven't eaten pizza since I was a kid.Very sad.
I actually agree to some point with the calorie is a calorie theory..but not to diet down, only to maintain what you have, especially if youre lean you can basically eat your "clean" meals during the day, throw in couple "junk" ones..you gain NO fat and you actually look better.Wrong. You can diet ALL THE WAY DOWN to your absolute leanest eating whatever you want day in and day out. Easiest thing you can do in your life.
Now, for someone as fat as fatpanda following that advice...is a complete disaster.
Wrong. You can diet ALL THE WAY DOWN to your absolute leanest eating whatever you want day in and day out. Easiest thing you can do in your life.
Wrong. You can diet ALL THE WAY DOWN to your absolute leanest eating whatever you want day in and day out. Easiest thing you can do in your life.
Maybe not everyone is the same? Remember fatpanda was a fan of this method, and he never was below what? 30bf%?He is still losing at the moment and he has lost well over 100 plus pounds eating whatever he wants. As long as he continues, he can be as lean as he chooses.
How many grams of protein do you eat per day? do you follow a "rule"? like the "1g per pound of muscle mass"?No. I don`t give it a single thought because I know by default I get plenty of protein. Besides, as an aggregate, you will get an adequate amount. Just eat as you see fit and like a normal human being. Do not overeat. Its really not complicated. Its not as if people are not getting enough protein in America, if anything, they are getting WAY TOO MUCH.
He is still losing at the moment and he has lost well over 100 plus pounds eating whatever he wants. As long as he continues, he can be as lean as he chooses.
Well when you are that fat you will lose fat as long as you eat less calories than the usuals, even if it is from junk food, so it's not a good example IMO.When you are lean you will lose fat as long as you eat less calories. There is no difference.
When you are lean you will lose fat as long as you eat less calories. There is no difference.
Again, you can eat whatever you want, and maintain your muscle in permanent single digits. Its not difficult at all to do. Its so laughingly easy, it renders the whole thing rather pathetic.
About Pizza:ROFLMAO. Yep, I called it correct that you have built up a disdain for food in order to cope with your modus operandi of sadomasochism. It doesn`t have to be a pizza J-Rod, in your case it should be a burrito or a chimichanga, but I am sure you don`t really like those things either, right? Pancho Villa must be rolling in his grave with every bite you take of stale oatmeal as you wash it down with some poorly mixed dry sludge that you call protein powder.
Wtf is this big fascination with pizza. I dont like pizza; it sucks. Those pictures are not offseason; they're today. I had a bite of pizza a few months ago maybe.
ROFLMAO. Yep, I called it correct that you have built up a disdain for food in order to cope with your modus operandi of sadomasochism. It doesn`t have to be a pizza J-Rod, in your case it should be a burrito or a chimichanga, but I am sure you don`t really like those things either, right? Pancho Villa must be rolling in his grave with every bite you take of stale oatmeal as you wash it down with some poorly mixed dry sludge that you call protein powder.lol..."a bite"...sounds miserable.
HAHAH you had "a bite". A bite. A meager bite. Is a bite all you can take before you melt the fuck down and lock yourself into the bathroom with your Muscle Magazines and Dandelion Root hoping that you will somehow wash out the 20 calories of pizza you just ate?
Here's another pic from that same day, above, taken probably a minute later. I think I'm MORE natural in this one (sometimes my posing makes me more/less natural). Anyways, 8.5 weeks to go now and trying to look as unnatural as I can.YOU LOOK GREAT,AND YOUR A CLOSET JUICER... OR IS TEST AND GROWTH NATURAL, SINCE THERE "NATURALLY IN YOUR BODY"?
lol..."a bite"...sounds miserable.Exactly.
I would accept it if it came from a girl...but not from a grown man.
ROFLMAO. Yep, I called it correct that you have built up a disdain for food in order to cope with your modus operandi of sadomasochism. It doesn`t have to be a pizza J-Rod, in your case it should be a burrito or a chimichanga, but I am sure you don`t really like those things either, right? Pancho Villa must be rolling in his grave with every bite you take of stale oatmeal as you wash it down with some poorly mixed dry sludge that you call protein powder.
HAHAH you had "a bite". A bite. A meager bite. Is a bite all you can take before you melt the fuck down and lock yourself into the bathroom with your Muscle Magazines and Dandelion Root hoping that you will somehow wash out the 20 calories of pizza you just ate?
YOU LOOK GREAT,AND YOUR A CLOSET JUICER... OR IS TEST AND GROWTH NATURAL, SINCE THERE "NATURALLY IN YOUR BODY"?
Maybe you assumed I am Mexican; I'm not mexicanOk Heffay Rodriguez you aren`t a Mexican. ::) (Does it even really matter?) At least you don`t deny the rest of my statement about you being absolutely bonkers and out of your gourd.
i dont know ....i eat sushi,,jamaican ,,german ,,lots and lots of fish ,,i drink suagr all the time,,pineaples right and left,,i really eat tons of bananas,,and 6-7% when im off ,,diet doesnt matter when you are on specific hormones sush as hgh and trenbolona ace,,really it doesnt matter unles you sit and drink fat all day you will be lean
i eat every single night icecream every single night and sometimes 2 time a day ,,you think jason is any different? you think anyone of us is any different? youre wrong,,i am the only one who admit it and talk about it because many others will lose alot if they talk about it due to companys kickin them out,,i own the all damn cult because pissing me off stop supply
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Ok Heffay Rodriguez you aren`t a Mexican. ::) (Does it even really matter?) At least you don`t deny the rest of my statement about you being absolutely bonkers and out of your gourd.
Help us narrow down your geographic origins. I still think you have the mandible of a Mexican regardless of what nationality you will claim. El-O-El !!
Calm down.That response is insufficient and does not strike to the heart of the matter whatsoever. Tell us, did your ancestors ride in on the HMS Delirante?
will those kyoshi moody nuthuggers/beleivers finally see that drug tests in natural bodybuilding mean fkn nothing?
or are those same nuthuggers in this thread thinking "but this guy COULD BE natural" ?
how the fuck do they get away with it?
footsteps of a natural lier:
1, "drug test me now then. you pay for my test and i will do it right here right now"
2, "i dieted for 30 weeks.."
3, "ive been training for 20 years"
when they say even just 1 out of those 3 things to justify thier conditioning or size, he is a liar. if he says all 3 in the one sentance, shoot him on the spot.
they say this because they use it in the form of reverse phycology...you then start to think "well if he's willing to do this then he MUST be telling the truth".
its like the cheating whore who comes home late and says the same thing, "i was with cindy!!" she throws you her phone and says "call her if you dont fkn beleuve me you jerk!" and runs off. you wont call because she gave you the phone and told you to call her friend, she "must" be telling the truth.
go look at kyoshit moodys posts...all of them "anywhere anytime, test me!" and then says "as long as you pay for the test".
whos going to pay for that expensive test? what board member is going to meet in person just for this?
AND HE KNOWS THIS! ALL NATURALS ON BOARDS KNOW THIS!
so thats point number 1 as far as naturals screaming this on bodybuilding boards. your situation may be different because your boss may actually have a test waiting for you all paid in company expenses so no problem for him. im just talking about bodybuiklding boards and natural bodybuilders.
point number 2 is then their explaination as to why they are so freaky ripped...."well i have been dieting for 6 months..." ::)
point number 3 is then their explaination as to why so much muscle...."well i have been lifting weights for 20 years you know..." ::)
So what if Jrod is bigger than Zane? YOu guys are forgetting that supplements have improved, and our knowledge of bodybuilding has improved too!
Kick ass dude!
Good one!
Ok BIG "M1T" ACH. lol ;D
Hey, "supplements" have improved bro...;D
Hey, "supplements" have improved bro...
Well then a question; let's assume you are natural, then you have the top .00000001% genetics on the planet. What would be your advice for people who will never look 1/4 as good as you due to genetic limitations?
by the way a natural arm in this condition with the mesurements taken for rodrigexz...would be sitting at 14.5-15 inches
6'2 fellas at suprior condition naturaly at 200lb have 16 inches! which is less than rodrigez 17 inch !
this is shame rodrigez,,what you are doing here is shame,,you making yourself look like fool for getbig history books,,remember the big names still havent arrived here to comment,,wait till van b sees this
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About Pizza:
Wtf is this big fascination with pizza. I dont like pizza; it sucks. Those pictures are not offseason; they're today. I had a bite of pizza a few months ago maybe.
GH15 IS THIS GUY NATURAL? WHAT D0 Y0U THINK.
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ifbb pro,,top 6 olympia,,competed with the good generation too,, i have to keep my annonimity period,,too much things at risk like MY LIFE,,some felas do not like gh15 information they really really dont,,and they are convicts many convicts in the game ,,many!
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HA HA HA....again with that bullshit. The only "pro" you probably are is a pro cock sucker. Funny thing about the "information" you have given....not ONE piece of information is life-threatening for you. Find ONE post you made that you actually said "I am so glad I have hidden behind a screen name otherwise I would be dead"
You're such a tool...and wanna be. JROD owns your mind...you should be saying to him "yessa, massa sir....right away boss"
Some of you may not have the muscles of J-Rod, but at least you can rest comfortably knowing you aren`t mexican. Right?;D ;D
dont hate,,you come off as full of hate,,reality of the matter is im invinsible....other are not and for good reason,,ther shoudnt be if and buts,,my undercover status wass talked about 100 times along the years,,every year atleast 10 times,,it was explained,,i also said many time if you bring a poll saying gh15 not welcome ....gh15 gone,,the problem is the need of information from profesional was wanted and cherished,,
majority rull friend
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GH15 IS THIS GUY NATURAL? WHAT D0 Y0U THINK."am 35 years old and i am a Natural Bodybuilder.
http://www.youtube.com/user/luimarco
This is not a meltdown.
Hate? Only thing I hate is your complete bullshit. You hate anyone that has achieved things you haven't and couldn't. You bang out response after response about how NO ONE can be natural. You fail to show ONE PIC of someone you actually think isn't. It must suck waking up every day thinking "I am GH15..master of a bodybuilding message board. yeah, this is worth it, I am big and I really dont mind my wife getting cock on the side seeing as mine hasn't worked in decades" I bet you're just sitting there hitting the "reload" button on this thread. In case you failed to comprehend what I asked previously...lets try this again...
Findona,,one piost wehre you actually,,gave one piesce of informnation that put yor life in harms wayona.
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this whole discussion is really very silly.
anybody who trains serious fro more than 1,5 years will notice a screeeeching halt in gains.
you will be 10 - 15 pounds above from where you started, i am talking mass, not bloofy watery mass, clean mass.
that is where it ends!!!!!
you can keep training and training... you will remain the same!
that is how the human body works, it's laws of nature...
so any bodybuilder that is still making gains and/or progress after training serious for 1,5 years is using something!
and really this whole stupid ecto meso and endo bodytype is nonsense!
anybody can be huge! we just carry the mass different, and some do not carry it well....
like kamali, looked great when 210/220 , looks terrible now at 260+.
that is where genetics come in, bodyshape and muscle shape....
mass = drugs
shape = genetics
today bodybuilding @ ifbb toplevel is all abouit mass.. therefor bodybuilding = drugs...
really very simple to understand.
Haha, now the "mexican" is being attacked for being too strict with his diet on a bodybuilding forum. This doesn't make any sense.And so he should be since it is a clear sign of a mental problem. Extreme Paranoia and irrationality coupled with a firm belief in Bro-Science is definitely classifiable in the DSM IV manual (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).
atleast put in two cups of licorice before bed.
And so he should be since it is a clear sign of a mental problem. Extreme Paranoia and irrationality coupled with a firm belief in Bro-Science is definitely classifiable in the DSM IV manual (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).
There is no reason whatsoever for his extreme behavior.
And this is the case for 6 billion people.. I've been training naturally for close to 10 yrs now and I still make gains.... I really hate when people try to speak for everyone else in the world from behind their little keyboards... Rephrase it say YOU stopped making gains after 1.5 years of training ... Don't speak for everyone else on the Planet.ofcourse you still make gains!
ofcourse you still make gains!
you have just been training your upperbody...
so still you can make gains in your sticklegs.....
and ofcourse you are extremely talented... ::)
yes i did stop making gains after 1,5 years.... like any person will....
if you read my post better i did say after serious training!!!!!
maybe... just maybe, you have not been training serious these 10 years?
and stop making fun of my keyboard.... it is really not that little...
1 and a half years? Fuck off you retard.
ofcourse you still make gains!
you have just been training your upperbody...
so still you can make gains in your sticklegs.....
and ofcourse you are extremely talented... ::)
yes i did stop making gains after 1,5 years.... like any person will....
if you read my post better i did say after serious training!!!!!
maybe... just maybe, you have not been training serious these 10 years?
and stop making fun of my keyboard.... it is really not that little...
JRod ,how much do you weigh here ?
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Reality begins and ends where guys like OptimusPrime say it does. Who are you to question such expert authority?
Well 10 years on I still make gains.. And trust me I am a very serious trainer
So take from that what you will...
this is npp and low dose dianabola to cover for no testosterona in blood,,,the picture is taken when testosterona was APPLIED to the physiqe after few months on npp and dianabolona only when,,,when he cut the dianabolona he left with npp for 10 week in ,,after that he applied the testosterona and picture ws taken within first 7 days on the testosterona,,that blow you he fuck up but the right way from within due to low bodyfat and lack of testosterona i nthe blood
this is the trick friends
about 190-200lb there,,
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I don't believe that either but after 3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.
1 and a half years? Fuck off you retard.
Lol "Like any person will". oh brother.never said i am an expert on anything...
I don't believe that either but after 3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.
JRod is going from 176 lbs shredded (2010) lbs to 187 lbs shredded (2011 )
11lbs of lean body mass (muscles ) in only 1 year ? (after 10 years of serious natural training ) I don't think so.
you can disagree with me... fine...
1 and a half years? Fuck off you retard.
I don't believe that either but after 3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.
JRod is going from 176 lbs shredded (2010) to 187 lbs shredded (2011 )
11lbs of lean body mass (muscles ) in only 1 year ? (after 10 years of serious natural training ) I don't think so.
after these 1,5 of doing everything right.... you stop gaining!
this is npp and low dose dianabola to cover for no testosterona in blood,,,the picture is taken when testosterona was APPLIED to the physiqe after few months on npp and dianabolona only when,,,when he cut the dianabolona he left with npp for 10 week in ,,after that he applied the testosterona and picture ws taken within first 7 days on the testosterona,,that blow you he fuck up but the right way from within due to low bodyfat and lack of testosterona i nthe bloodWhy go without test? at least some minimal base will just help...
this is the trick friends
about 190-200lb there,,
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never said i am an expert on anything...
just what i observed , i train for about ten years on and of.
and do train others...
after 1,5 years give or take some depending the individual.
after these 1,5 of doing everything right.... you stop gaining!
just a fact, that is how the human body works.
maybe you guys are not human? lol...
Not true.fine, if you call 1 kilo a year lean mass gaining....
I don't believe that either but after 3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.
JRod is going from 176 lbs shredded (2010) to 187 lbs shredded (2011 )
11lbs of lean body mass (muscles ) in only 1 year ? (after 10 years of serious natural training ) I don't think so.
i havwe no problem with it ,,reason i posting on here is for future generations and my pupils that come here from all over the world and the boardings on internet,,this is my obligation to tell the truth about hormones ,,im god of hormones,,if i didnt it would be not fair twards them ,,this is just clarifying hormone facts,,any bodybuildeer know the truth but this is for the begginers the ones who stil doubt natural status...not many around btu they have gh15 now day insted of flex magazine they had in 1992...now day the genration unerstands everything due to me in a big part ,,this is why i keep posting here in this tread,, also i dotn see getny yet..he wil probably shw up on page 50 or so
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This would be cool if not for the fact that a lot of the stuff you write is purely speculative.
Half of your posts are informative and half of them are complete ballshit.
Maybe you should put him on one of your all ice cream diets. Is that what you used to achieve 102 reps on a 225lbs deadlift?Why would you want to eat nothing but Ice Cream ??? Seems a little extreme to me.
And where is my gravity suit? I think you may be right... Clear mental issues
you cant bet because you are poor,,inaddition nothign you say about hormones is real ,,you lie ,,you twist reality ,,not to forget you kept balonie about being 240 at 5'6 with 200 mg cyp ....at 5'6!! you are a liar,,,even at your obese level when you were fat 5'6 it was still hormone type of fat and it was not on 200 mg of cyp from clinic down in south americana....you dont get nothing from doctor or clinic you get it like everyone else ,,from MY ELFS ,,and youre quite lucky that anyone want to do business with you because you are a blunt liar,,money is good though
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Between 3 and 4 it became slow for me. Nobody is the same.i will say the first 4 or 5 years super huge gains .... since then gains wont be as great as back then but mine are still good not super but good...
coach is so poor he has to go to mac donalds to lick other peoples fingers.
coach is so poor he has to go to mac donalds to lick other peoples fingers.Haha
well guess what, 95% of the guys with credentials in this site have, AT LEAST, mad respect for gh15. OTOH, 95% of gh15 flamers are people who doesnt even look they work out. Now what
I think this thread should be DELETED, its embarassing. 40 pages all for what? for the fucking obvious.
conclusion.
-gh15 is still the god of hormones.
-jrod has a great physique and is a shameless liar.
No flaming, just a factual statement based on observation.
Try reading some of his older posts, he contradicts himself constantly.
You look like shit, so you must be an exception.
beat this then nuggagood build
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No flaming, just a factual statement based on observation.
Try reading some of his older posts, he contradicts himself constantly.
You look like shit, so you must be an exception.
I don't believe that either but after 3 or 4 years of serious training, gains come really slow and small.You are wrong. He has competed literally back past 2005 if i remember correctly. He did some show that was called the Chico something or another (adonis will like that one :D) Maybe even as far back as 2003. You can see it on MD. Every year he has been the same weight. His condition improves slightly. If you are juicing for 5 years and making no gains then you either have really bad genetics or don't know how to properly train which any seasoned body builder will.
JRod is going from 176 lbs shredded (2010) to 187 lbs shredded (2011 )
11lbs of lean body mass (muscles ) in only 1 year ? (after 10 years of serious natural training ) I don't think so.
ok "jaime" suddently got silent. Now that the bitch is on mute mode we can appreaciate gh15s posts again without so much noise.
You are wrong. He has competed literally back past 2005 if i remember correctly. He did some show that was called the Chico something or another (adonis will like that one :D) Maybe even as far back as 2003. You can see it on MD. Every year he has been the same weight. His condition improves slightly. If you are juicing for 5 years and making no gains then you either have really bad genetics or don't know how to properly train which any seasoned body builder will.Yes, The Chico Cucaracha Classic where first prize is a golden sombrero and 2 coupons for jarred jalapenos.
i can put you to some very old posts of gh15's when he first started giving specific natural limits and you can match them to the specific limits in this thread...ive checked them....they are CONSISTANT.
someone pulling numbers out of his ass would slip by a bf% or 2 or missing the mark by 5 or 10lbs with limits...they are consistant to when he first gave them to us and everytime. i know because i check to see if he slips...he doesnt.
good build
thanks, building a base before going down with some light and mild gh15 approved protocols ;DI personally think you are hiding your fat belly, hence the blurred out pictures and the tendency to do a "Most Muscular" covering your stomach because you are embarrassed about the lingering fat rolls around the midsection.
Yes, The Chico Cucaracha Classic where first prize is a golden sombrero and 2 coupons for jarred jalapenos.lol
El-O-El at Rodriguez being a self hating Mexicali. You know what this means, he is surely a Republican shit-brain who would vote against his extended families interests and send them all packing back to El Guapo`s Cantina in Juarez.
He and Gay Norton have a lot of similarities; The cluelessness about anything outside of "Bodybuilding matters" and "the Bodybuilding Industry". They are one trick ponies with no dimension or facets to their personalities. I couldn`t imagine being in the same room as either one of them and it being even remotely enjoyable.
I personally think you are hiding your fat belly, hence the blurred out pictures and the tendency to do a "Most Muscular" covering your stomach because you are embarrassed about the lingering fat rolls around the midsection.
Also, I think you would look better at a lower bodyweight with less of a bloated and rounded look. To me, you have the typical gym roider average physique. Nothing personal cupcake, just hows I sees it.
Think again then. I have no reason to hide my waist, it is structurally small and there are no fat rolls in there
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For the past 6 months my weight fluctuated between 220-230lbs. BF 11-12, 13% maybe. Dont want to go for the single digits yet because it will make my gains in size and strenght stop and most probably retreat since Im natural. Joined a gym in 2010 after a whole decade away from weights, wanna keep doing this this way for at least more 6¨months then I will try some maintence test doses, goal is to be same BW at sub 8% BF and none water bloat.
I thought you have done drugs before? This would make you "clean" as oppose to "natural".
well, Im not a lifetime natural, but Im also not just "clean" like a guy who finished his last cycle some months ago or even last year. I started working out in 1998, used steroids for 1 year from mid 99 to 2000 and then injuried my left shoulder in the army and stoped working out cold turkey, Rejoined a gym in 22 feb 2010. So no juice for more than 10 years now.
Ok...
You have the average roider gymrat build.
Stucturally small waist is 30 below.
thanks for saying I look like someone who uses steroids since I dont. And post a fucking pic of you stud or else just quit trying to "own" me in such pathetic fashion.
Looking like a bloated trucker isn't a compliment buddy.
You have that unhealthy permabulker look, stop posting your fucking pics in every thread.
I see you wont post shit eh? ::) Keep hiding bitch.
ahahah another faceless anon loud mouth internet tough guy, hidding behing a keyboard.
I told ya, most of gh15 flamers are of your kind. Thank you for proving my point, thank you very much.
thanks, building a base before going down with some light and mild gh15 approved protocols ;D
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stop defecating on your keyboard and admit already you are the one who look like shit and thats exactly why you hide yourself behind a screen.
you called me out in the first place, i brought it on and now you are folding (what a surprise ::)) like the sissy ass pussy you are. case closed. GH15 flamers = losers.
personally i think you should remain natural if you are...
but in any case it looks like you train hard dense wide back .. not just show piece muscles
El-O-El at Rodriguez being a self hating Mexicali. You know what this means, he is surely a Republican shit-brain who would vote against his extended families interests and send them all packing back to El Guapo`s Cantina in Juarez.
Wrong. You can diet ALL THE WAY DOWN to your absolute leanest eating whatever you want day in and day out. Easiest thing you can do in your life.
GH15 flamers = losers.
Yes, and those who call him God and hang on to his every word are intellectually elite, cream of the crop MENSA members known & feared for their mental prowess ;D
people call him God jokingly, the point is the ones who doesnt agree with him but know whats going on treat him respectuflly. its always anon fucks who doesnt train like this prick above that flames gh15.
He insults plenty of people and calls them names while remaining anonymous, so no big deal if they return the favour. Lighten up, Francis.
people call him God jokingly, but if guys like Stavios or Spark follow him 100% I guess it means something. Also, the point is that the ones who doesnt agree with him but know whats going on treat him respectuflly. its always anon fucks who doesnt train like this prick above that flames gh15. Them and that liar coach ;Dnot really.... I'm not anon ... and gh15 is stupid beyond belief.. actually not stupid just sad.. hes wrapped himself up in this internet persona.. completely jealous obsessive.. and lacking in pride...even if he turns out to be a great pro hes still the biggest loser ever to post here..
not really.... I'm not anon ... and gh15 is stupid beyond belief.. actually not stupid just sad.. hes wrapped himself up in this internet persona.. completely jealous obsessive.. and lacking in pride...even if he turns out to be a great pro hes still the biggest loser ever to post here..
lets say he was a pro
can you imagine Michael Jordan or tiger woods or Pete Sampras posting some of the incoherent garbage that comes from this guys keyboard.... complete loser... pro or troll or whatever
cant you just read "Francis"? yes he is anonymous but the fact that some of board members with the biggest credentials as far as physique goes back him up and the content of his posts are more than enough to make him one of the best posters of this site. He obviously has lived the shit he talks about.
not really.... I'm not anon ... and gh15 is stupid beyond belief.. actually not stupid just sad.. hes wrapped himself up in this internet persona.. completely jealous obsessive.. and lacking in pride...even if he turns out to be a great pro hes still the biggest loser ever to post here..
lets say he was a pro
can you imagine Michael Jordan or tiger woods or Pete Sampras posting some of the incoherent garbage that comes from this guys keyboard.... complete loser... pro or troll or whatever
Who said anything about the quality of his posts? He knows his drugs, everyone can see and agree on that.
My problem with him is that he's a self-confessed drug dealer who attributes everything to drugs and won't allow for the possibility of someone being who they say they are. Sure people lie, but not everyone and not about everything. The guy himself is full of shit with a lot of things that aren't drug related anyway.
BTW, the number of adherents is not proof of an idea's merit ;)
Who said anything about the quality of his posts? He knows his drugs, everyone can see and agree on that.
My problem with him is that he's a self-confessed drug dealer who attributes everything to drugs and won't allow for the possibility of someone being who they say they are. Sure people lie, but not everyone and not about everything. The guy himself is full of shit with a lot of things that aren't drug related anyway.
BTW, the number of adherents is not proof of an idea's merit ;)
they are very obvious...
obviously you admire this individual.... so you cant see the garbage he has posted here for years...
nonetheless like i said good build... and we'll leave it that
Meso
because as of 2011 everyone in a gym is on hormone, like you have no idea, even if the guy look normal guy train 3x a week looking like a random guy just enjoying the gym one day you discover he take winstrol liike candy..
look, Im not in the mood for a phylosofical/semantics debate. IRL I will listen more to the strong dudes then to the small ones when the topic is gym talk. Credentialms means something. Simple as that.
could you list some of the stupid things he posted?Check his post history before the US elections, check his post history for his rantings about UFO's and lizard people.........LOL
How come gh15 didn't want to comment Nassers shoulders/bi's the same way he does Heaths arms? ???
I read through a bit and its too much to respond (with quotes) to each one, so here are responses to various questions from the last few pages:Bitter? I am far from anything close to being bitter my Mexican friend. Why should I be or why would I even remotely fall in that category? Does this mean you think everyone wants to be a Gonzo faced Mexican who is accused of steroid usage on a daily basis with absolutely no life other than counting hours to the next powdery libation and then writing it all down in a little journal foolishly documenting your quixotic pointlessness. Newsflash you brown-skinned gummy bastard, Nobody cares about you. This entire thread is nothing but a collective dump on your face and body of work and deservedly so.
1) In the offseason pic (black shoes, black shorts) I am about 210
2) Sushi/desserts/ice cream > burrito > burgers > pizza
3)TrueAdonis: you're fucking weird, and you're a bitter bitch. Calm yourself.
4) I will be in the 180s this year because (regardless of if I've put on any weight or not) I'm not cutting water. I will be drinking 2-2.5 gallons on show day. 2009 I first weighed in at 179.8 (I had to weigh in 3 times to make it under 176). And that was with cutting water; if I had not cut water I would likely have been around 183-185
5) The Coach and mesoz: good points about this thread
Bitter? I am far from anything close to being bitter my Mexican friend. Why should I be or why would I even remotely fall in that category? Does this mean you think everyone wants to be a Gonzo faced Mexican who is accused of steroid usage on a daily basis with absolutely no life other than counting hours to the next powdery libation and then writing it all down in a little journal foolishly documenting your quixotic pointlessness. Newsflash you brown-skinned gummy bastard, Nobody cares about you. This entire thread is nothing but a collective dump on your face and body of work and deservedly so.
You are nothing but uninteresting queer bait, a homosexual fantasy with no depth beyond the few inches you call a squat. Your whole life could be packed into one relatively small rotten smelling gym bag. THAT is how much you bore all of us.
So tell us a bit more about you. What are your hobbies and can you give us a sense of how you usually spend a week or so? I bet it is absolutely a horrid existence.
Bitter? I am far from anything close to being bitter my Mexican friend. Why should I be or why would I even remotely fall in that category? Does this mean you think everyone wants to be a Gonzo faced Mexican who is accused of steroid usage on a daily basis with absolutely no life other than counting hours to the next powdery libation and then writing it all down in a little journal foolishly documenting your quixotic pointlessness. Newsflash you brown-skinned gummy bastard, Nobody cares about you. This entire thread is nothing but a collective dump on your face and body of work and deservedly so.:D that is so poetically delivered.
You are nothing but uninteresting queer bait, a homosexual fantasy with no depth beyond the few inches you call a squat. Your whole life could be packed into one relatively small rotten smelling gym bag. THAT is how much you bore all of us.
So tell us a bit more about you. What are your hobbies and can you give us a sense of how you usually spend a week or so? I bet it is absolutely a horrid existence.
You know, I am slowly becoming convinced you are a legit racist TA.Again........if only I had the Swastika shirt/Hitler salute picture saved.........
You know, I am slowly becoming convinced you are a legit racist TA.How is that possible? I hate people on an equal basis. Their ethnicity and origin of birth, generational family history obviously does tell a story of ones genetic makeup. It is a bunch of nonsense to state that all humans are equal. We aren`t and SCIENCE proves this, despite whatever feel good bullshit you want to convince yourself of. You fancy Asians, but guess what. They are HORRIBLE runners and swimmers because their muscles and bone structure are nothing but epic fail when it comes to engaging that sport. (not to mention their lung capacity and muscle endurance) They also are shaped by their culture and as an aggregate lack the creativity seen in the West.
Again........if only I had the Swastika shirt/Hitler salute picture saved.........
Bitter? I am far from anything close to being bitter my Mexican friend. Why should I be or why would I even remotely fall in that category? Does this mean you think everyone wants to be a Gonzo faced Mexican who is accused of steroid usage on a daily basis with absolutely no life other than counting hours to the next powdery libation and then writing it all down in a little journal foolishly documenting your quixotic pointlessness. Newsflash you brown-skinned gummy bastard, Nobody cares about you. This entire thread is nothing but a collective dump on your face and body of work and deservedly so.
You are nothing but uninteresting queer bait, a homosexual fantasy with no depth beyond the few inches you call a squat. Your whole life could be packed into one relatively small rotten smelling gym bag. THAT is how much you bore all of us.
So tell us a bit more about you. What are your hobbies and can you give us a sense of how you usually spend a week or so? I bet it is absolutely a horrid existence.
How is that possible? I hate people on an equal basis. Their ethnicity and origin of birth, generational family history obviously does tell a story of ones genetic makeup. It is a bunch of nonsense to state that all humans are equal. We aren`t and SCIENCE proves this, despite whatever feel good bullshit you want to convince yourself of. You fancy Asians, but guess what. They are HORRIBLE runners and swimmers because their muscles and bone structure are nothing but epic fail when it comes to engaging that sport. (not to mention their lung capacity and muscle endurance) They also are shaped by their culture and as an aggregate lack the creativity seen in the West.
The mind is NOT a blank slate as we are hard wired with genetics to act a certain way and we are NOT all equal and our cultures ARE different.
If you want to deny human nature and Science go right ahead, you just look like a fool for doing so.
I have noticed it slowly over the years, Asians, now 'brown' Mexicans...I mean, someone wants to call out Jrod, whatever, but adding all the Mexican/brown skinned stuff...it's weird. :-\Look the SSSM model you subscribe to was torpedoed a long time ago by Steven Pinker, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennet and James Watson.
How is that possible? I hate people on an equal basis. Their ethnicity and origin of birth, generational family history obviously does tell a story of ones genetic makeup. It is a bunch of nonsense to state that all humans are equal. We aren`t and SCIENCE proves this, despite whatever feel good bullshit you want to convince yourself of. You fancy Asians, but guess what. They are HORRIBLE runners and swimmers because their muscles and bone structure are nothing but epic fail when it comes to engaging that sport. (not to mention their lung capacity and muscle endurance) They also are shaped by their culture and as an aggregate lack the creativity seen in the West.You do have the frail, effeminate bone structure of a womanly jew.
The mind is NOT a blank slate as we are hard wired with genetics to act a certain way and we are NOT all equal and our cultures ARE different.
If you want to deny human nature and Science go right ahead, you just look like a fool for doing so.
Me and lots of other users think he adds a lot to this site, a lot. If you dont agree with him fine but dont deny he at least is/was in touch with what he is preaching and is consistent in his position. What pisses me off is those dipshits like Jaime who doesnt even work out and logs here to try to star shit with others, gh15 included.
Look the SSSM model you subscribe to was torpedoed a long time ago by Steven Pinker, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennet and James Watson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_social_science_model
You are a moron if you delude yourself in all men are created equal and that our minds and bodies are equal blank slates.
I don`t give two flying fucking chickens why you come to this site. I think you are natural, and I also believe you to be a dull simpleton with absolutely no originality or character. Your life is about as interesting as reading the IRS tax code on your birthday. Hell, I bet if you were caught doing that, it would be a lot more entertaining then how you spend most of them with your barrel of oats and tub of whey. I`m sorry to hurt your feelings like this Gomez`, but it was long overdue.
True Adonis, you are on getbig.com! this is the utmost in your face site on the internet bodybuilding in history. Here you dont bologna around. Here you only hear the truth and its in your face, thats why this site is known as the THUNDERDOME of bodybuilding. Thats why we have most pros here under gimick and under real names and thats why all the npc is here, and thats why the judges are here...this is the cnn of the bodybuilding industry and no other site even come remotely close!
Now, you havent met my hyenas yet... you saw chyphilis which is good example of what they will do to you tje moment they find this posting!
Just wait for van b, will grant, and the rest of the true veterans. Wait till they see this! What i do is come here to lie about being natural. You really will be getting into a zone you dont want to get into! See mr getny and his last episode on getbig.com
You've been warned!
I never said all men are created equal; I am the first time to say that genetics=everything BUT I believe people should be treated equally, whatever their race or ethnicity.I treat everyone equally in that I am not opposed to give anyone a good verbal thrashing or assessment, no matter their race, where they hail from or what culture and sub-cultures they adopt. You are white, and I constantly deride you. That must mean I hate all whites too eh?
I don`t give two flying fucking chickens why you come to this site. I think you are natural, and I also believe you to be a dull simpleton with absolutely no originality or character. Your life is about as interesting as reading the IRS tax code on your birthday. Hell, I bet if you were caught doing that, it would be a lot more entertaining then how you spend most of them with your barrel of oats and tub of whey. I`m sorry to hurt your feelings like this Gomez`, but it was long overdue.I have a feeling that you actually did this ;D
I treat everyone equally in that I am not opposed to give anyone a good verbal thrashing or assessment, no matter their race, where they hail from or what culture and sub-cultures they adopt. You are white, and I constantly deride you. That must mean I hate all whites too eh?
You sir, are just a depressed Orientalphile who probably used to wear your mothers dress and pretend to be some sort of Shaolin Monk with mystical ninja powers. Either that or your adopted parents were gooks. Oh well.
Ever think about moving to a remote forest in the Yukon?Ever think about moving to a remote hut in asia? Ohh wait.... And thanks to the internet you are still equally annoying.
rodrigez ,,you are on getbig.com this is the utmost in yrou face site on the internet bodybuilding history ,,here you dont balonie around,,here you only hear the truth and in your face,,thats why this site is known as the THUNDERDOME of bodybuilding,,thats why we have most pros here under gimick and under real names thats why all the npc is here,,thats why the judges are here...this is the cnn of the bodybuilding industry,,no other site even come remotely close,,
now,,you havent met my heynas yet...you saw chyphilis which is good example of what they will do to you moment they find this posting,,wait for van b,,will grant,,rest of the true veterans ,,wait till they see this ,,what i do is come herer and there to fix mispresentation by liars and the such of the cult,,but they actualy write it all in clear english and give you in your face reality examples and you really will be getting into a zone you dont want to get into...see mr getny and his last episode on getbig.com
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Ever think about moving to a remote hut in asia? Ohh wait.... And thanks to the internet you are still equally annoying.
Do I even know you or have I ever conversed with you?I have been on getbig long before your time. Why is it everytime i read one of your posts i hear this whining annoying voice? I think i saw one of your youtube videos one time. I guess it is because every post you make it is complaining about how shitty your genetics are when in reality we know the effort you put into it is garbage. Tell me, why did you select Jack from Mass Effect as your avatar? Do you relate with her because no one on the crew in the game liked her or do you just fantasize over the character in general?
Didn't think so...
Have a nice day....
Do I even know you or have I ever conversed with you?Do you take that same arrogant attitude out with you when you try to pick up women? YOU WILL TALK TO ME WHEN I ADDRESS YOU GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Didn't think so...
Have a nice day....
How is that possible? I hate people on an equal basis. Their ethnicity and origin of birth, generational family history obviously does tell a story of ones genetic makeup. It is a bunch of nonsense to state that all humans are equal. We aren`t and SCIENCE proves this, despite whatever feel good bullshit you want to convince yourself of. You fancy Asians, but guess what. They are HORRIBLE runners and swimmers because their muscles and bone structure are nothing but epic fail when it comes to engaging that sport. (not to mention their lung capacity and muscle endurance) They also are shaped by their culture and as an aggregate lack the creativity seen in the West.
The mind is NOT a blank slate as we are hard wired with genetics to act a certain way and we are NOT all equal and our cultures ARE different.
If you want to deny human nature and Science go right ahead, you just look like a fool for doing so.
I have been on getbig long before your time. Why is it everytime i read one of your posts i hear this whining annoying voice? I think i saw one of your youtube videos one time. I guess it is because every post you make it is complaining about how shitty your genetics are when in reality we know the effort you put into it is garbage. Tell me, why did you select Jack from Mass Effect as your avatar? Do you relate with her because no one on the crew in the game liked her or do you just fantasize over the character in general?
He "likes" Adonis.........thats why he follows him around swinging from his nutsack. :)
I just like that scene from ME2, which is why I have it there, not really a huge Jack fan, more a Mordin fan; who do you like?
It still doesn't change the fact that I have never talked to you.I liked Wrex from the original but unfortunately i lost him. Probably my favorite character to bring in combat due to his aggressiveness and i could just use him as a shield. In Mass Effect 2 my favorite is Samara but i lost her too :(. I always end up losing the best crew mates and keeping the shitty ones. I can't tell you how many times i sent jack on a suicide mission :D
My genetics are shitty for bbing. That's a fact.
One area where I do have good genetics, however, is my voice. I have good voice genetics, so you are wrong on that account.
I just like that scene from ME2, which is why I have it there, not really a huge Jack fan, more a Mordin fan; who do you like?
He "likes" Adonis.........thats why he follows him around swinging from his nutsack. :)Pot meet kettle. You hang around with whoever is popular at the time and then stab them in the back. First it was squadfather, alex23, etc. You are just a gnat. You have no loyalties. You jump from friend to friend. How long before you stab poor Newmom in the back?
He "likes" Adonis.........thats why he follows him around swinging from his nutsack. :)
Pot meet kettle. You hang around with whoever is popular at the time and then stab them in the back. First it was squadfather, alex23, etc. You are just a gnat. You have no loyalties. You jump from friend to friend. How long before you stab poor Newmom in the back????
The amusing thing about J-Rod is the unnecessary self torture he puts himself through by eating like a complete shit-brained schmuck. He made some remark in a video that he hadn`t eaten a pizza in 5 years or more or fast food in as long. A person like that is unstable and only is governed by fear, bro-science and an inability to realize that he does not have to engage in sadomasochism. He will claim he "likes" eating "clean" or what have you. His mental sickness and retardation has convinced himself of this. He does not realize that he would look the same regardless of what he eats, but he persists out of cowardice and fear. That is no way to live. But as I said, he will claim he enjoys it.
Why doesn't every moron contributing to this thread (including myself and excluding gh15) post a fucking pic of themselves and ask for an evaluation.(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375605.0;attach=412792;image)
That's what I thought.
Nassholes, the lot of you. Chicken shit fat fucks. ;D
Don't get me wrong, this is how I talk to my buds. mmmmmmmmmkay?
Put's some faces (bodies) behind those hidden facades and Avatars. God knows I've put up my share.
Ya know TA, I tend to agree with what you post here about questioning the need for needless "diet suffering" to prep for a contest.
The bottom line for me is that whatever he is doingworks well for him and he should stay the course until he competes in July anyway.
I don`t give two flying fucking chickens why you come to this site. I think you are natural, and I also believe you to be a dull simpleton with absolutely no originality or character. Your life is about as interesting as reading the IRS tax code on your birthday. Hell, I bet if you were caught doing that, it would be a lot more entertaining then how you spend most of them with your barrel of oats and tub of whey. I`m sorry to hurt your feelings like this Gomez`, but it was long overdue.That was pretty clever and funny TA.
LOL @ this thread. This thread proves everything thats wrong with bodybuilding and why it's a complete joke...hahahahaha!Good one coach and it does sum up the circus atmosphere that has always been part of the bodybuilding scene.
I have a feeling that you actually did this ;DROFLMAO. I did read the Federalist Papers once and I don`t think I will bother to read them again. haha
I have been on getbig long before your time. Why is it everytime i read one of your posts i hear this whining annoying voice? I think i saw one of your youtube videos one time. I guess it is because every post you make it is complaining about how shitty your genetics are when in reality we know the effort you put into it is garbage. Tell me, why did you select Jack from Mass Effect as your avatar? Do you relate with her because no one on the crew in the game liked her or do you just fantasize over the character in general?
HA HA HA....again with that bullshit. The only "pro" you probably are is a pro cock sucker. Funny thing about the "information" you have given....not ONE piece of information is life-threatening for you. Find ONE post you made that you actually said "I am so glad I have hidden behind a screen name otherwise I would be dead"LOL... Nice!
You're such a tool...and wanna be. JROD owns your mind...you should be saying to him "yessa, massa sir....right away boss"
I liked Wrex from the original but unfortunately i lost him. Probably my favorite character to bring in combat due to his aggressiveness and i could just use him as a shield. In Mass Effect 2 my favorite is Samara but i lost her too :(. I always end up losing the best crew mates and keeping the shitty ones. I can't tell you how many times i sent jack on a suicide mission :D
There's an easy way to keep all your crew members and if you like I can tell you. I am kind of an ME2 expert.Sure you are. ::) I just can`t picture a wishy washy short attention spanned wiener like you playing any kind of Xbox game. Its not like he could find out with a simple search. I assure you that he does not need you for anything at all.
this is npp and low dose dianabola to cover for no testosterona in blood,,,the picture is taken when testosterona was APPLIED to the physiqe after few months on npp and dianabolona only when,,,when he cut the dianabolona he left with npp for 10 week in ,,after that he applied the testosterona and picture ws taken within first 7 days on the testosterona,,that blow you he fuck up but the right way from within due to low bodyfat and lack of testosterona i nthe bloodYou're so full of sh!t.. Unless you loaded his gear for him,you could never know precisely what a man uses by just looks alone.. Mr. Rodriguez says he's natural,and I believe him.. He seems a lot more believable than yourself.. If I'm wrong,then Phuck it,I'm wrong.. Who cares? But unless he admits to I;m rolling with the natural thing.. I mean you say you're a god and people believe that,right? So he says he's natural....? So why not believe that.. ? Him being natural is more believable than you being a god...?
this is the trick friends
about 190-200lb there,,
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Sure you are. ::) I just can`t picture a wishy washy short attention spanned wiener like you playing any kind of Xbox game. Its not like he could find out with a simple search. I assure you that he does not need your for anything at all.
I prefer the PC version, thank you.Totally meaningless. Its not any different whatsoever.
Totally meaningless. Its not any different whatsoever.
Ok...
You have the average roider gymrat build.
Stucturally small waist is 30 below.
Good one coach and it does sum up the circus atmosphere that has always been part of the bodybuilding scene.
The ironic thing is I kinda like thecircuscock. ;)
Hope your llifting is going well my large friend.
Take care and happy pumping.
You're wrong; PC and X-box are very different platforms.No shit boxface. The game is EXACTLY the same on both.
No shit boxface. The game is EXACTLY the same on both.
Also, my computer would pwn yours in a posedown. You probably have to run the game on the absolute lowest settings because all you could afford was an integrated graphics chip on your shitty motherboard.
stop defecating on your keyboard and admit already you are the one who look like shit and thats exactly why you hide yourself behind a screen.
you called me out in the first place, i brought it on and now you are folding (what a surprise ::)) like the sissy ass pussy you are. case closed. GH15 flamers = losers.
actually no if find out hes a real pro hed get respect beyond belief, to come here just to tell the truth about bodybuilding and how to look like a pro, where else you see guys doing that? maybe if paying 5k to a guru but even then hed probably tell you bullshit lol gh15 is the real deal.
they are very obvious...
obviously you admire this individual.... so you cant see the garbage he has posted here for years...
nonetheless like i said good build... and we'll leave it that
Meso
because as of 2011 everyone in a gym is on hormone, like you have no idea, even if the guy look normal guy train 3x a week looking like a random guy just enjoying the gym one day you discover he take winstrol liike candy..
Me and lots of other users think he adds a lot to this site, a lot. If you dont agree with him fine but dont deny he at least is/was in touch with what he is preaching and is consistent in his position. What pisses me off is those dipshits like Jaime who doesnt even work out and logs here to try to star shit with others, gh15 included.
I'm not a user so wouldn't have any use for any "information" he spews
90% of the things he types i have no clue what h is talking about..
but this guy has followed me around these forum for 5 or 6 years accusing me of not being natural
1. narrow minded
2. obsessive
3. clueless about the capabilities of a natural lifter because he isn't one... or wasn't one for over a decade as i have
4. envious
5. shameless I haven't directly responded to this guy in years yet whenever i make any kind of thread he is there typing his long essays accusing me of using stuff.
now if you thing that's the behavior of a normal sane individual... well.. what can I say.
@jrod good physique good build....
meso out
legs ? dont talk till you show them ,,keep avoiding it,,you are JUICE HEAD,,you are dirty liar you make black fellas look very bad,,jamsican are known liars but you make BLACK fellas look bad,,
any leg pictures yet?
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Great physique on jrod. Getbig "drug experts" may call me gullible and naive, but I believe he is natural.
Seriously, he has just the right amount of muscle on his frame for a natural, he just looks bigger in some shots due to his small joints+muscle bellies+dry condition.
Just take a look at the pics where he is standing relaxed or the pic on the hack squat......how miserable do you have to be to think that build is not natural?
You're so full of sh!t.. Unless you loaded his gear for him,you could never know precisely what a man uses by just looks alone.. Mr. Rodriguez says he's natural,and I believe him.. He seems a lot more believable than yourself.. If I'm wrong,then Phuck it,I'm wrong.. Who cares? But unless he admits to I;m rolling with the natural thing.. I mean you say you're a god and people believe that,right? So he says he's natural....? So why not believe that.. ? Him being natural is more believable than you being a god...?
veyr bad,, if you dont see thaqt fella is real big and i mean REAL BIG,,then we got problem in the gh15 school ,,go rereaqd the bible,, again though i dont remember you as a pupil... in any case reread bible from the begining all 5000 post or is it 6000 or 7000
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7000 post of the exact same drivel. oh...except for McCain will win the presidency and the space aliens living among us.
I have question for this board.
What makes gh15 a "god"? Because HE tells you he is?
Is it because he tells you nothing significant can be done with your body without drugs and hormones?
Shit...any 16 year old on Bodybuilding.com or any of the losers on this site think and same the same thing.
Is it because he tells you the same thing over and over an over and over again? An every time he says it he get "god points" because you agree with him?
Or, is the drug information so good?
I don't get what all the fascination is with some drug dealer with so much time on his hands. Wake up you stupid sheep. He has NOTHING brilliant to say except for emotional grab onto and feed in your own anxieties about your bodies.
God help him if he is really a top 6 Mr. Olympia competitor. That even makes him being an internet insecure loser even more shameful. I'm certain he's not. He doesn't fit the personality profile of a make who has achieved anything significant.
7000 post of the exact same drivel. oh...except for McCain will win the presidency and the space aliens living among us.
I have question for this board.
What makes gh15 a "god"? Because HE tells you he is?
Is it because he tells you nothing significant can be done with your body without drugs and hormones?
Shit...any 16 year old on Bodybuilding.com or any of the losers on this site think and same the same thing.
Is it because he tells you the same thing over and over an over and over again? An every time he says it he get "god points" because you agree with him?
Or, is the drug information so good?
I don't get what all the fascination is with some drug dealer with so much time on his hands. Wake up you stupid sheep. He has NOTHING brilliant to say except for emotional grab onto and feed in your own anxieties about your bodies.
God help him if he is really a top 6 Mr. Olympia competitor. That even makes him being an internet insecure loser even more shameful. I'm certain he's not. He doesn't fit the personality profile of a make who has achieved anything significant.
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never said i am an expert on anything...
just what i observed , i train for about ten years on and of.
and do train others...
after 1,5 years give or take some depending the individual.
after these 1,5 of doing everything right.... you stop gaining!
just a fact, that is how the human body works.
maybe you guys are not human? lol...
OFCOURSE YOU CAN BE GOOD AND GREAT WITH OUT HORMONES!!! I NEVRER SAID YOU CANT
YOU CAN BE GREAT BODYBUILDER NATURALY ,,ONLY THE NUMBERS WILL BE MUCH MUCH DIFFERENT! THEY WILL BE IN THE 60D AND 50S AND 40S IN THE 190S AND LOW 200S IF YOU ARE AN ANTENA AS IN 6'2 6'3 ..THEY WILL BE LOWER NUMBERS PERIOD,,your condition can be absolitly great btu you will just not have thickness ,,you will disapear from the side when in 6% condition ,,you will just be smaller fella,,
ofcourse you can be great bodybuilder naturaly ,,I NEVER SAID YOU CANT,,im FOR NATURAL BODYBUILDERS BUT THE PROBLEM IS 9 OUT OF 10 COMPETING NATURALY LIE!!!! TO FIND THAT 1 WHO IS NATURAL AND TRULY NATURAL ...THAT FELLA GOT MAD RESPECT FROM ME,,BUT GUESS WHAT
RESPECT DOESNT BY LOOKS... NO ONE LOOK AT YOU AS NATURAL AND BODYBUILD IS VERY NARCSISTIC...YOU GET LOS AS NATURAL ONLY IF YOU TAKE SHIRT OFF AND FLEX AT THE SAME TIME ...you got to have pump...you cant walk around pumping weight all day long and go from gym to pool to show your 165 lb physiqe...its hard,,,some tried before.. lol
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Thing about Meso is, his diet; he has insane lifts eating random meals of Jamaican food...who knows? Maybe he is a freak? Probably not though....train with me for a week and you will see i am the way i am
Just need to add that the Tom Prince thread is a great thread and he's correct in saying you don't need more than 1200mg PER WEEK of anything. I have a feeling Chick doesn't chime into this thread because he, like many on here knows GH15 is full of shit 95% of the time.
Just need to add that the Tom Prince thread is a great thread and he's correct in saying you don't need more than 1200mg PER WEEK of anything. I have a feeling Chick doesn't chime into this thread because he, like many on here knows GH15 is full of shit 95% of the time.
QFT
He very good with google, probably shmoed around bodybuilding a lot, has the same rhetoric when it comes to drug use, zero knowledge of physiology and basic knowledge of beginner training. Just summed GH15 again.
This is actually a very good post, and anyone that knows anything about D1 male gymnastics and beyond will pick up . This is a gymnasts build. A 5'8-5'9" male gymnast is as big as they come in the gymnastics world, not very many of them out there. And in competition when they have an upper body pump they actually do look like bodybuilders. Without a pump
they would hardly catch your eye. Only problem is these guys dont train with weights, they get that development from their gymnastics training. Think about what can be done when you actually throw weights into the mix, it's not unreasonable to see that a guy like that could get another 20lbs if he trained heavy for 3-5 years. Once again these guys that are 5'8"-5'9" 170lbs are not a dime a dozen in the gymnastics world, but they are out there.
already offered 10s of thousands of dollaors,,i get offers consistantly to train individuals on internet with out even meeting them for 1000s of dollaros for one month ...still refused,,i refuse financial benefit from this,,i could have made from this name alone close to 100 k already,,refused,,i have all the money i need
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train with me for a week and you will see i am the way i am
HA HA....ask any successful person..."would you do this for 100K"? Find me just ONE that would say "no, I have all the money I need"
What an absolute line of bullshit. You keep getting better and better fuck stick.
I'm up for it! Where abouts is it? I'm HB area.Aww thats cute, and after your finished you both could stop by at the Elvis Chapel and consummate what you both have been fighting all of your lives.
Shut up stupid, there are adults talking.I know and I think its rather romantic and cute.
This is actually a very good post, and anyone that knows anything about D1 male gymnastics and beyond will pick up . This is a gymnasts build. A 5'8-5'9" male gymnast is as big as they come in the gymnastics world, not very many of them out there. And in competition when they have an upper body pump they actually do look like bodybuilders. Without a pump
they would hardly catch your eye. Only problem is these guys dont train with weights, they get that development from their gymnastics training. Think about what can be done when you actually throw weights into the mix, it's not unreasonable to see that a guy like that could get another 20lbs if he trained heavy for 3-5 years. Once again these guys that are 5'8"-5'9" 170lbs are not a dime a dozen in the gymnastics world, but they are out there.
Aww thats cute, and after your finished you both could stop by at the Elvis Chapel and consummate what you both have been fighting all of your lives.
if you're going to take a stab at someone...at least make it funny...epic failOk Bobby Oral, I`ll be sure to consult you and your staff of writers first before I post anything that highlights your epic gayness. ::)
There we go...you're being a little more creative. You're getting warmer...that actual made me crack a smile. ;DThe goal is to make you crack one off hot shot.
Nevermind TA bobby, he's a little light headed from breathing the helium from his gravity suit. MetRx is in Costa Mesa. Just PM me with a schedule.The goal of my Gravity suit is to increase G-forces, not lessen or eliminate them.
Yes, closed at 9. We should hook up and train at MetRx where I trainSweet, let's make it a threesome!!!!!!!!
What do you mean by "need"? You don't need to take any drugs period.
Do you think Ronnie would have looked like he did in 2003 on less than 1200mg of anabolics?
What do you know about drugs? You never took them. I hope you at least observed numerous individuals over the years playing with different combos and dosages. Otherwise your "QFT" means shit.
Sweet, let's make it a threesome!!!!!!!!
The goal is to make you crack one off hot shot.
In case you failed to comprehend or remember what I asked previously...lets try this again...
Findona,,one piost wehre you actually,,gave one piesce of informnation that put yor life in harms wayona.
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I'm good with that. But if we squat the bar gets lowered to my height :))Holy shit, that's a rep just for me to stand up! ;D
THIS. AFTER 2 YEARS 0F SERI0US TRAINING Y0U REACH A PLATEUE. NATURALS D0N'T JUST KEEP GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER. ALL THESE IDI0TS THINK Y0U KEEP GR0WING AS A NATURAL F0R 10 YEARS. IF THAT WAS THE CASE WE'D ALL BE 300 LBS 0F MUSCLE. I'M 5 11 182 LBS AND I'VE BEEN SERI0USLY TRAINING F0R 2 YEARS AS A NATURAL AT AR0UND 6-8 PERCENT B0DY FAT. I THINK I'M VERY CL0SE T0 MY LIMIT.
I'm good with that. But if we squat the bar gets lowered to my height :))
He very good with google, probably shmoed around bodybuilding a lot, has the same rhetoric when it comes to drug use, zero knowledge of physiology and basic knowledge of beginner training. Just summed GH15 again.
What do you mean by "need"? You don't need to take any drugs period.
Do you think Ronnie would have looked like he did in 2003 on less than 1200mg of anabolics?
What do you know about drugs? You never took them. I hope you at least observed numerous individuals over the years playing with different combos and dosages. Otherwise your "QFT" means shit.
What do you mean by "need"? You don't need to take any drugs period.
Do you think Ronnie would have looked like he did in 2003 on less than 1200mg of anabolics?
What do you know about drugs? You never took them. I hope you at least observed numerous individuals over the years playing with different combos and dosages. Otherwise your "QFT" means shit.
JROD owning many a mind in this thread!
Great build Jeff, and I hope you take the Team U this year.
Drugs or not,I don`t know or give a fuck, but people here should offer a bit of encouragement to the dude instead of being jealous or total asswipes about calling the guy a liar.
If he is lying,he more than likely should be as he posts under his real name............ and in case you forgot,gear is not legal in the US.
If I robbed a bank,I sure as hell wouldn`t tell you fucks!! ;D
At any rate, he could get rich quick fast and in a hurry if he charged rent for the space he takes up in people heads here on the board!!
you are a failed bodybuilder,,my info is no google and anyone with slight understanding of hands on bodybuild know it,,you on the other hand are abuser of hormones,,abuser of relashionship...couldnt stay married ,,married many times,,most liklley if i had to bet on it you been in trouble with law before...and i can look into it but no time you dont matter me so why bother...and most important you get your drugs online like evryone else from my elfs and my elfs ,,you are a begger at their door!
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Seriously, did you just threaten me with that?? Go ahead fraud, I said a million times I have nothing to hide, unlike you who hides behind a gimmick and says "my life would be in danger" as if you're a somebody....sounds like you're the one who's hiding something and thats the reason for the proxy account. you're one dumb SOB. Fucking coward. Pro my ASS!!
On the top of pg 45 in this thread I defended your right to post despite NOT agreeing with you.
After reading this silly personal attack on another forum regular, I must conclude you don't want to debate any issue.
You also refuse to acknowledge or engage with me in any reasonable fashion .
I don't know or care who or what you are GH15. I honestly think you may have some serious emotional issues.
No dude, people who hide behind a keyboard are liars. I don't hide.
No dude, people who hide behind a keyboard are liars. I don't hide.
The Coach: x3 divorced guy who thinks that everything the government says is the truth and sort of thinks Jebus is his saviour.
Ok, ok, ok I didn't want to go there but here goes.
I am member of the American Assoc. of Physics Teacher with a BS in chemistry; masters in physics and Ed D in Science Education( physics). I have taught chemistry and physics at the high school and college level for many years.
For example,I was on the summer faculty at Xavier Univ ,teaching pre-med students in the Howard Hughs Biomedial program.
I have been an NPC "A" level BB judge for many years and while never a pro (obviously) competed in over 40 contests.
My proudest win was getting 1st at the 1994 NPC Ironman Natural held at the Baton Rouge, La Centroplex.
To my knowledge this was the first and only drug tested NPC show ever held in Louisiana.
I was a voting member on the AAU Mr America comm., and have judged the Mr America.
In all modesty I have a rather unique background and experience in many areas of BOTH natural and UNtested bodybuilding.
That experience, combined with my academic credentials should make me qualified to speak on these issues.
Obviously, I am not the end all /be all expert on bodybuilding. Thus, I am open to other opinions and legitimate debate.
If any of you feel more qualified then me , speak up . No matter,I will let my background speak for itself.
NOW, let's have an actual debate.
No I didn't go to "STFU" , I did get my masters at Miami of Ohio however.
Your resume? Thanks.
Yup, my world = reality.
YOUR world = internet fantasy land
Hey as long as you are proud of what you did and happy with your life.
For a guy with no genius IQ and quite average overall , I am happy and proud of my teaching career and humble adventures in the world of BB.
Granted, I'm not anything too great or famous, but am quite proud of my life.
I was never a Navy Seal or anything like that, but did serve active duty in the US marines .
Getting thru bootcamp and normal marine stuff was tough enough for me.
i think you are slightly mistaken,,,to sit on getbig for 3 year that i know of already and talk and say you do competition and never do it.....thats what you call fantazy world friend,, you are the most delusional if not the most delusional goolible i hav eever countered on getbig aside from vince cft ryt rr nindento45,,,see you are not a liar persay ,,you are just so goolible that those kids feel pain for you ,,you think dk talk to you as equal but you dont understand that he feel sad for you ,,his talk to you is beyond joking its just full of pitty twards you
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2 words
F O R E S T
GUMP
you sound like him ,,you kind of look like his short fat brother,,and sadly when dk talk to you i always see forest gump in my head ,,why i have no clue ,,
forest gump it is
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2 wordsLOL, I actually laughed at that one . Good one GH15, ya got me.
F O R E S T
GUMP
you sound like him ,,you kind of look like his short fat brother,,and sadly when dk talk to you i always see forest gump in my head ,,why i have no clue ,,
forest gump it is
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LOL, I actually laughed at that one . Good one GH15, ya got me.
Let's leave it on that note, well played GH15, well played.
Good night, no hard feelings
What can I say to that.
Oh FYI< you never rub the Androgel on your nutts, only on your chest ,abs and upper arms.
Hate to see you get a nasty nutsac rash. :-*
That is a good zinger ..."Howieland" hmmm, not bad , not bad.
Good night and ya know I think it was kinda trivial and a bit poumpous to post my f'n resume on here.
In fact I feel a bit like a douchebag for posting it.
I'm a regular guy who is just proud of getting an education.
Overall, I am just an avg Jow Blow like 99.9% of everone else on here.
No hard feelings , take care.
No need to say that as I never took it as anything but fun and a joke.
I was just funnin' with ya. That resume is nothing to shake a stick at. You do what you want. You shouldn't have to give posts here a second thought.
Enjoy your evening.
When you wake up in the morning to check in, the whole thread will have changed with the wind.
Who cares? Whatever is said here is not going to affect your level of intelligence or your abilities. Right?
Dude you are being an ass - thats not what he is trying to say he can do at all - but when you use AAS you can spot others that do the same a mile off - it's the look of the muscle it gives, natural genetic do not give this look..As Van said earlier being around drug use you do pick up on all the little varienes diff compounds give or do to ones body - GH15 has alot of experience with hormones - on himself , helping/training others and being in a cult surrounded by other heavy users so it becomes instinct, he maynot be able to give exact mg to mg doses of what someones running but it would be close and he would also be able to pick up on what someone is using pretty quick just by the look of the muscle, condition etc - why is this so hard to understand ???
I should send GH15 a pic and he could prescribe exactly what I need, by looking at me.
Someone plase delete this thread, I start getting a headache.
low bodyfat and thickness at this level do not go together
210 pounds off-season at 5'8-5'9, and natural, that's F'ing HUGE!!!! :o
That's because he's not natural. ;):D
That's because he's not natural. ;);D
After reading this clowns posts and his personal attacks plus his total lack of knowledge, I am now 95% sure I know exactly who this is and it aint no pro.
I'm not even joking about this, I'm almost sure I know.
how did this cult get to this situation of bunch of rodrigezes bunch of keyoshis and faildos i dont get it how did it get there? how and why will you abuse the innocent kids who want to build some muscle? why you do it? you ruin their lives im telling you here you are hurting them in a way worse than you think you fuck them mentaly for long time,,i had to create gh15 in 2005 inorder to bring reality and truth to all the cult so many of you dont end up like howard and that mayor of americana bodybuilding that i heard about,,
dont you see its insanity ??
stop buying those products ! stop this thats the only way peopel like getny will straighten up ,,i doubt they will ,,but atleast they will fell the lie it through money,,you need to tell your friends and everyone you know in the gyms around americana and also outside americana ,,you need to tell them how it is the truth ,,loud and clear ! if i die you need to go on and continue with this no mayter what ..so in the future this cult will clean itself up from serious pathological liars like ron herises ,,and like lay nortom ,,and like the coach which is less of a liar but more of a twister of reality ,,this cult need to change ,, it did huge step twards this direction in the last 6 years but its only the beggining ,,its up to you the new generation of bodybuilding to feed the next one the truth AND THE WHOLE TRUTH and nothing but the fuckin truth!
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I'm not even joking about this, I'm almost sure I know.
excellent post again.
i don't know if "jrod" really knows what he's doing or not. he's such a "nice guy" of course. he probably really believes that.
Thread summary:
Howard = Forrest Gump on Androgel. Is he really as stupid and naive as he seems?
J-rod = Not natural.
GH15 = Amos 5:10. "They abhor him who speaks the truth."
Coach = Angry, bitter, deluded little mexicano man.
Carry on...
Thread summary:
Howard = Forrest Gump on Androgel. Is he really as stupid and naive as he seems?
J-rod = Not natural.
GH15 = Amos 5:10. "They abhor him who speaks the truth."
Coach = Angry, bitter, deluded little man.
Carry on...
I'm not even joking about this, I'm almost sure I know.
DKII approved.You said it was gunter a few weeks back. ::)
It's DJ, everyone knows that, idiot.
You said it was gunter a few weeks back. ::)
;D ;D
IT'S N0T GUNTHER.
No, it's DJ.(http://i53.tinypic.com/23h8u1y.jpg)
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OFCOURSE YOU CAN BE GOOD AND GREAT WITH OUT HORMONES!!! I NEVRER SAID YOU CANT
YOU CAN BE GREAT BODYBUILDER NATURALY ,,ONLY THE NUMBERS WILL BE MUCH MUCH DIFFERENT! THEY WILL BE IN THE 60D AND 50S AND 40S IN THE 190S AND LOW 200S IF YOU ARE AN ANTENA AS IN 6'2 6'3 ..THEY WILL BE LOWER NUMBERS PERIOD,,your condition can be absolitly great btu you will just not have thickness ,,you will disapear from the side when in 6% condition ,,you will just be smaller fella,,
ofcourse you can be great bodybuilder naturaly ,,I NEVER SAID YOU CANT,,im FOR NATURAL BODYBUILDERS BUT THE PROBLEM IS 9 OUT OF 10 COMPETING NATURALY LIE!!!! TO FIND THAT 1 WHO IS NATURAL AND TRULY NATURAL ...THAT FELLA GOT MAD RESPECT FROM ME,,BUT GUESS WHAT
RESPECT DOESNT BY LOOKS... NO ONE LOOK AT YOU AS NATURAL AND BODYBUILD IS VERY NARCSISTIC...YOU GET LOS AS NATURAL ONLY IF YOU TAKE SHIRT OFF AND FLEX AT THE SAME TIME ...you got to have pump...you cant walk around pumping weight all day long and go from gym to pool to show your 165 lb physiqe...its hard,,,some tried before.. lol
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This is an example of a "I'm mellllllllllllllllllllll llllllllting......arrrrr gggghhhh" post
all the bible is the best written information and serious bodybuild will ever find,, im nto going to do the work for you ,,many here did before and put bits and pieces of it together in postings,,go research it ,,im your god not your secratery ,,if you want to advance in bodybuild especialy competetive and look competetive the bible is the only way to it,,no way around it ,,read it if not stay no where where you are right now...now where!
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its page 50 and getny john never came back to the getbig board since its shameful leave,,i woudl like to know who is the cause of this ,,that fella need to get gh15 medal of honor,,who is the one who revealed getny lies so bluntly? someone did who is it
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Haha, where is IG2 ? (International Guestposer #2)
pathological liars never know anything,,they always say whatever they feel like depending on what side of the bed they woke up on ,,in your case since you had so many beds in life and no woman want you for longer than coupel years... you just say whatever no matter what,,
you give mexicanos a bad name..you give the republicans a bad name ,,and you give this cult a bad name ,,you are shame,,in japan they would already cut the balls you dont have for those sins
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Stop being a little school girl. I am sorry to have hammered the nails in the cross of your messiah. Deal with it.
I second that.
J-rod is prolly WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond the headache stage.
Imagine if gh15 was really..... goodrum :o :o
Haha, where is IG2 ? (International Guestposer #2)
Who the F$%ck cares who gh15 is?Of course it matters(his identity)..! Would you buy a car unseen..? Of course not,unless you're a Phucking idiot! So why would you put drugs in your body,from someone who does not know much more than anyone else on the net? Top 6? If i was going to take advice from anyone it would be from a number 1!..!
His advice is solid, 100%
He choses not to give away his identity, does that make him less knowledgable?
Put his advice to pratice and you WILL see gains!
Listen to others... and waste your time and money on products and programs that do not work.
And besides that, he is funny as hell, and quite intelligent.
And tells the TRUTH, the ugly truth!
So who cares who he is???????
I certainly do not care.....
Of course it matters(his identity)..! Would you buy a car unseen..? Of course not,unless you're a Phucking idiot! So why would you put drugs in your body,from someone who does not know much more than anyone else on the net? Top 6? If i was going to take advice from anyone it would be from a number 1!..!
What has he uncovered,that others have not? I just don't get it..? I guess I have to be insecure and sad,also a drug addict to appreciate this giant Loser ..? Most of the losers on here that take this Trashes advice,are pumping junk in to their bodies,to never come a Kunt hair closer to becoming a pro,or earn a living ,for putting their health in danger.. ?
Of course it matters(his identity)..! Would you buy a car unseen..? Of course not,unless you're a Phucking idiot! So why would you put drugs in your body,from someone who does not know much more than anyone else on the net? Top 6? If i was going to take advice from anyone it would be from a number 1!..!top 6 , top 20 who fucking cares...
What has he uncovered,that others have not? I just don't get it..? I guess I have to be insecure and sad,also a drug addict to appreciate this giant Loser ..? Most of the losers on here that take this Trashes advice,are pumping junk in to their bodies,to never come a Kunt hair closer to becoming a pro,or earn a living ,for putting their health in danger.. ?
with you i would first reduce the trenbolona doses because you are out of control ,,meltdowining all over gebig for quite few dyas,,you dont respond well to trenbolona ace mentaly ,,reduce dose ,,not everyone can take 100-200mg a day and mantain their mental spirit ..reduce dose friendWell don't waste your time.. I would never take advice from a dirty douchebag like yourself.. Drugs are not needed here.. So keep it moving over to the losers that,actually believe you..
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top 6 , top 20 who fucking cares...Okay loser.. You know what..? I will take the loser thing back.. I haven't gone back and forth with you enough to say that to you.. But GH is definitely a loser.. Google the info he gives you,and you'll see the advice he's giving you,can be found else where.. Drugs are for losers,no matter how you try and tell me different,that is a fact.. Anyone who tells you to keep doing drugs instead of telling you it's no good for you,is a bigger loser..
his advice is solid, and honest.
lot of people paint a pretty picture.
oh i only use 200mg of test a week... BLA BLA BLA...
he could tell you to buy bullshit peptides, which are better profit for the dealers then real hgh... trust me!
he doesn't.
he could tell you to do some bullshit exotic steroid... turinamethyl19norbullshi t... he doesn't.
it is honest and solid advice, only not everybody wants it to be known.
Ya know I have actually met Dennis James and he seemed like reasonable intelligent, cool guy .
He has a great physique and worked hard to make it in the pro ranks.
I seriously doubt that any top pro is GH15. Why?
Because, while they all use plenty of drugs they also realize the basic reality if BB success.
Plenty of gym rats use lots of drugs BUT only a very few look like top pros.
If drug use alone was the major factor, we would see a LOT more guys walking around that look like top pros...REALITY check -we don't!
Getbig is an open BB forum and everyone is free to post , read and believe what they wish.
In all modesty, I have been involved in the sport of bodybuilding for over 30 yrs.
I've judged, competed, promoted and been a fan.
I'm an honest ,objective man that teaches physics for a living with no vested interest in any aspect of the bodybuilding or fitness industry.
I post under my actual name and don't hide behind a computer .
I have done my best to post what I consider to be te truth and reality about various aspects of bodybuilding.
Okay loser.. You know what..? I will take the loser thing back.. I haven't gone back and forth with you enough to say that to you.. But GH is definitely a loser.. Google the info he gives you,and you'll see the advice he's giving you,can be found else where.. Drugs are for losers,no matter how you try and tell me different,that is a fact.. Anyone who tells you to keep doing drugs instead of telling you it's no good for you,is a bigger loser..you can call me a looser man, no problem.
Optimus,you seem intelligent..? So why make stupid decisions..? GH is dumb as a stump,so I'm not surprised,he thinks that he's doing everyone a service... Most drug dealers are uneducated,but still know how to cut,and cook drugs to double,triple their profits... but it doesn't make them intelligent.. It's something they learned from someone else.. GH is no different.. He preys on the weak and is a drug dealer,as well as a drug user..
you can call me a looser man, no problem.I'll cal you what you are.. If I feel like you're a loser,then that's what I'll cal you.. So you being around Pro's makes you want to be like them? Low self esteem? Guys look happy,and healthy......! But .....it doesn't mean they are.. What it is,and what it looks like are 2 completely different things.. Just because you see a beautiful home and nice cars,does not mean that all is well in the home... It's a front.. You know..? Fake it till you make it.. Every pro looks great,but you and I know,that is not the truth..... GH is nothing more than a drug pusher.. As long as there are people like yourself around,there will be people like him around.. So sad ..
it is a board where everbody has an opinion.
but.... i train serious for about 10 years, know some toplevel guys.
i even helped some toplevel guys, not pro's but top level amateurs.. europeans.
and, i can tell gh15 does have first hand experience.
you do not find all his advice on the internet.
pct crap, going off.... that is internet bullshit...
telling you , that pro's only use around 1200 mg.
telling you no synthol is used.
when it is all used, it is all done!
i knew a pro... i do know what it takes to get there and stay there!
and if gh15 was only interested in making as much dollars as possible with his advice , he would be giving different advice..
he would tell you to buy ghrp 2 /6 with cjc 12crap.
he would tell you to buy primo , or supersust or all that crap...
he doesn't.. stick to test/hgh/tren/ ad eq or masteron depends on your condition and /or wish to compete..
off season npp....
simple! saves a lot of people mony and time!
andddddd.... these basic compounds are a lot less hazerdess then al these pro hormones, which are nothing more then steroids that were designed 50 years ago but never produced because to much sides....
and a lot of guys here that use his advice, like the stavios dude... and spike? they look great, you do not agree?
seem healthy and happy to!
ps. feel free to call me looser.... does not bother me.
I'll cal you what you are.. If I feel like you're a loser,then that's what I'll cal you.. So you being around Pro's makes you want to be like them? Low self esteem? Guys look happy,and healthy......! But .....it doesn't mean they are.. What it is,and what it looks like are 2 completely different things.. Just because you see a beautiful home and nice cars,does not mean that all is well in the home... It's a front.. You know..? Fake it till you make it.. Every pro looks great,but you and I know,that is not the truth..... GH is nothing more than a drug pusher.. As long as there are people like yourself around,there will be people like him around.. So sad ..low self esteem??, lol! i am fine thanks. You are the one calling someone else a looser, just because of different opinions, i think you are the one with issues.
what the worm is saying is bunch of balonie to get reaction ,, i keep telling yo over and over and i repat this many years,,ANAY ONE ON A FORUM LIKE GETBIG IS VERY VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN BODYBUILDING AND IN BEING A BODYBUILDER,,MAJORITY HERE ARE BODYBUILDERS UNDER GIMICK ACCOUNT THAT REFUSE TO ACCEPT MY ABSOLIT AUTHORITY THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME LIKE WHEN YUO CHOOSE A KING IN ENGLAND,,,THE REASON IT WS GIVEN TO ME MR WORM IS BECAUSE THE TRUE BODYBUILDER KNOW I SPEAK THE TRUTH ,,THEY KNOW ITS NOT GOOGLES OR YAHOO INFORMATIN THAT IS PASTED HERE,,THYE KNOW IT BECAUSE THEY TOO HAVE DONE IT !I know what bodybuilding is.. I love weight lifting,and boxing.. You,you like pushing drugs.. You don't talk about anything else other than drugs.. What you talk about and promote,doesn't interest me..
the main problem is that it is very sad gh15 need to even be created to begin with and i cant come on my real name this is the problem ,,
LASTLY!
take a look at this book ,,this is the route of all the problems,,now i am aware many here are youngesters in their early 20s,,but even you fellas and this is for you ...i want you to take a look at this book,,it is important IMPORTANT FOR YOU MY FRIENDS TO UNDERSTAND HOW FELLAS LIKE COACH ,,FOREST I MEAN HOWARD ,, VINCE PFC TRG G2 PEPTIDE1 AND MANY LIKE THEM WERE CREATED,,
THIS BOOK AFTER READING IT OR GOING THROUGH IT...WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE DANTAS...THE TROPOPINS ,,THE GETNY JOHN ,,IT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE GOT ,,
GH15 WANT YOU TO READ IT ,,IT IS IMPORTANT PART OF THE BIBLE,,
AFTER YOU ARE DONE REAIDNG IT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HOW THE LIES GOT SO BIG AND HOW IT ALL STARTED,,
try to finish the book before you vomit though,,
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what the worm is saying is bunch of balonie to get reaction ,, i keep telling yo over and over and i repat this many years,,ANAY ONE ON A FORUM LIKE GETBIG IS VERY VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN BODYBUILDING AND IN BEING A BODYBUILDER,,MAJORITY HERE ARE BODYBUILDERS UNDER GIMICK ACCOUNT THAT REFUSE TO ACCEPT MY ABSOLIT AUTHORITY THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME LIKE WHEN YUO CHOOSE A KING IN ENGLAND,,,THE REASON IT WS GIVEN TO ME MR WORM IS BECAUSE THE TRUE BODYBUILDER KNOW I SPEAK THE TRUTH ,,THEY KNOW ITS NOT GOOGLES OR YAHOO INFORMATIN THAT IS PASTED HERE,,THYE KNOW IT BECAUSE THEY TOO HAVE DONE IT !I own that book and read it. Franco advocates not using steroids and claims in the book that he was Natural when he turned Pro. LOLOLOL
the main problem is that it is very sad gh15 need to even be created to begin with and i cant come on my real name this is the problem ,,
LASTLY!
take a look at this book ,,this is the route of all the problems,,now i am aware many here are youngesters in their early 20s,,but even you fellas and this is for you ...i want you to take a look at this book,,it is important IMPORTANT FOR YOU MY FRIENDS TO UNDERSTAND HOW FELLAS LIKE COACH ,,FOREST I MEAN HOWARD ,, VINCE PFC TRG G2 PEPTIDE1 AND MANY LIKE THEM WERE CREATED,,
THIS BOOK AFTER READING IT OR GOING THROUGH IT...WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE DANTAS...THE TROPOPINS ,,THE GETNY JOHN ,,IT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE GOT ,,
GH15 WANT YOU TO READ IT ,,IT IS IMPORTANT PART OF THE BIBLE,,
AFTER YOU ARE DONE REAIDNG IT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HOW THE LIES GOT SO BIG AND HOW IT ALL STARTED,,
try to finish the book before you vomit though,,
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I know what bodybuilding is.. I love weight lifting,and boxing.. You,you like pushing drugs.. You don't talk about anything else other than drugs.. What you talk about and promote,doesn't interest me..
I work out at 5th ave gym in Brooklyn.. I've seen Kai there,and I've known him for yrs.. A friend of mine helped support Kai,so long as when Kai was asked where he trained,he said 5th ave gym.. I know more than you think.. But am not weak.. I think about the afters instead of the right nows.. I'm no raging lunatic.. I say what I say and mean it.. I brain wash no one.. How can you say"drugs are good",then I say "drugs are bad"and I'm brain washing people.. ? If you want to turn this around and make it seem like I'm the devil and you'r the angel(of death)that's fine... People are going to do what they want to do.. At the end of the day,you know what you are,and no matter how you try and twist it around people know as well.. People ask you questions about drugs,and you give them drug advice.. So what does that make you?
I own that book and read it. Franco advocates not using steroids and claims in the book that he was Natural when he turned Pro. LOLOLOL
The diet advice is not so bad as he has plans to eat around 75 grams of protein or so and low calories throughout- This includes gaining and dieting.
low self esteem??, lol! i am fine thanks. You are the one calling someone else a looser, just because of different opinions, i think you are the one with issues.If you hang out with Pro's and do as they do,doesn't that mean you want to look like them,try to be like them? I'm sorry If ,I may have gotten that wrong..?
and do you even read ? where did i say i wanted to be like a pro?
and i do not need gh15 for drugs.... i cook my own shit , have a good source... have done for years...
i just appreciate what he is trying to do, honest advice.
because there are alot of liars around.
have a good evening
what im talkin about in particular inregar to this book is the vitamin and minerals dosages,,if you actualy try to follow it you will find yourself losing your mind ,,losing yoru sanity ,,, and later on losing your kidnysOh its all garbage, just like every single bodybuilding book ever printed. In Franco`s book he has a whole chapter where it states that "Steroids throw off the Bodies Natural Harmony". lolol
what he wrote there to actualy put it on paper and publish who ever did it should have his cock cut off ,,this is THIS IS what ruin your health this is! ! !
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If you hang out with Pro's and do as they do,doesn't that mean you want to look like them,try to be like them? I'm sorry If ,I may have gotten that wrong..?
So him giving drug advice and you taking it makes him a WINNER..? Lol.. I read.. I also read that because he's such a winner his life is in danger.. lol... He'll expose the pro's for being Liars but would not let you know who he is!?
Listen.. The truth is,if he's so honest,wouldn't it make more sense to say,listen,this is who i am,and if anything happens to me,these are the folks that are responsible,just in case..?
I have no issues.. I'm good..
Have a wonderful evening.
Oh well it really makes sense what you're talking about gh15. You really didn't take any multivitamins at all huh?Since when are you "supposed" to eat every 2 or 3 hours? That is complete nonsense and bullshit.
I mean you think about how much each one costs and if you're taking 9 or 10 different ones the $$$ adds up quick. Great way to make money for sure if thats the goal but doesn't seem very honest ::)
If you're eating every 2 to 3 hours like you are suppose to then it makes sense that you really shouldn't need a ton of multivitamins honestly.
Guys give gh15 so much shit but he's made it easier for those who really wanted to know the deal about bodybuilding before they got into it seriously.
eating every 2 to 3 hours like you are suppose to
it makes me HONEST BODYBUILDER! bodybuild is the drug ..bodybuild is nto the muscle ...bodybuild IS the drug and the respond to it!I'm not saying that drugs are not a huge part of sports(any sport).. What I'm saying is.....drugs suck and people who push them suck more.. How can you be healthier on drugs,than off? That is just the dumbest thing you've said so far... Sure,if you're sick and a DR.prescribes them to you,then of course.. But if you have severe Asthma,and for the rest of your life you have to take Asthma medication,and go without it for a few days,of course you're going to feel sick again..
inaddition we arre bodybuilders ,,all bodybuilder do it ,,all that look lik ebodybuilders do it! anyone who actualy train with pros and done bodybuild for long time knwo very well what it takes,,and knows that drugs are highly important,,infact if taken for long enough time you wil be healthier on them than with out them ,,
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wrong!!!! probably even counter productive... try spacing your meals out about 4-5 hours apart.. 1 gram protein per lb LEAN body weight is allROFLMAO, get a load of his name "Dogma5914". HAHAHA that explains it right there. He is not even trying to hide it.
how do you think flex loius became a pro? he fuckin hanged with pros,,he learned what he need to take,,no ifs and no buts,,and now everyone here say how good he is ,,why? becuase heeeeee fuckinnnnnnnnnnnnn did what he had tooooooo do!That's my point.. ! You get it,so maybe since you agreed with me,your boy optimus will too..
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I'm not saying that drugs are not a huge part of sports(any sport).. What I'm saying is.....drugs suck and people who push them suck more.. How can you be healthier on drugs,than off? That is just the dumbest thing you've said so far... Sure,if you're sick and a DR.prescribes them to you,then of course.. But if you have severe Asthma,and for the rest of your life you have to take Asthma medication,and go without it for a few days,of course you're going to feel sick again..
These pro's put so much junk in their systems,that their bodies stop producing it on it's own.. So now their bodies need it(drug habit)and that's when they call you,and you sell it to them..?
Where's that pic of Ronnie needing oxygen .right after he posed on stage? That my friend is in no way,shape or form healthy.. But for someone like you,it's an easy fix..! Just give him a little more of this and that,and he should be good to go for another few hrs. ? C'mon GH,,you know the downside to drugs.. I just can't figure out why you're not being honest about it.. Even when Dr's .prescribe you something,they tell you what the negatives are..
I'm not saying that drugs are not a huge part of sports(any sport).. What I'm saying is.....drugs suck and people who push them suck more.. How can you be healthier on drugs,than off? That is just the dumbest thing you've said so far... Sure,if you're sick and a DR.prescribes them to you,then of course.. But if you have severe Asthma,and for the rest of your life you have to take Asthma medication,and go without it for a few days,of course you're going to feel sick again..
These pro's put so much junk in their systems,that their bodies stop producing it on it's own.. So now their bodies need it(drug habit)and that's when they call you,and you sell it to them..?
Where's that pic of Ronnie needing oxygen .right after he posed on stage? That my friend is in no way,shape or form healthy.. But for someone like you,it's an easy fix..! Just give him a little more of this and that,and he should be good to go for another few hrs. ? C'mon GH,,you know the downside to drugs.. I just can't figure out why you're not being honest about it.. Even when Dr's .prescribe you something,they tell you what the negatives are..
If you're hungry every 5 hours fine but half the time every 2 to 3 hours is usually when my body gets extremely hungry so i just listen and eat. It's different for everyone of course but when you're hungry....well...eat.
you want the negatives=Yeah,sounds simple.. But when you're sick,it's one painful thing after the other.. You just don't go to sleep and never wake up.. There are yrs.of pain and suffering.. All that to Phuck a little longer,have someone say"hey you're huge"whatcha takin? Even normal schmucks know what you're doing and talk underneath their breath, of how much of a loser you are.. The 1st thing they say is...."that sh!t makes your d!ck shrink".. LOL.. I've seen some of the Phags(bay)talk about some of these pro's junk being non existent.. Now if you want to get huge huge for girls,then why make your d!ck shrink?
too much attention in the gym
intimidating females
shrunken balls
non stop horniness that occupies your mind 24/7
steroid questions in public aorund people youd rather not dicsuss it next to
losing hair quicker than you would normally
breakouts if you have bad skin or bad hygeine
small, very small chance of prostate cancer.
if you get too large for too long, its alot of stress on the heart and it can shorten life span.
there you go
you are right ,,they talk abotu different things,,they dont consider the gh doses,, when you are in anabolic state on lots of gh you are very hungry every few hours,,every 2-3 hours you are hungry as a mother fucker,,and the food doesnt go into the toilet...
sadly later on past 205-210 or so on stage ...it goes into the gut due to insulina and the such
btu yes some need to eat every 2-3 hours especialy if on gh doses and high ghdoses,,you just way too hungry and can utilize it,,
fellas on aas only ...they can eat every 4 hours no problem and be fine,,sometimes even 5 hours and aas will forgive you enogh to sometime eat every 6-7 hours
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Yeah,sounds simple.. But when you're sick,it's one painful thing after the other.. You just don't go to sleep and never wake up.. There are yrs.of pain and suffering.. All that to Phuck a little longer,have someone say"hey you're huge"whatcha takin? Even normal schmucks know what you're doing and talk underneath their breath, of how much of a loser you are.. The 1st thing they say is...."that sh!t makes your d!ck shrink".. LOL.. I've seen some of the Phags(bay)talk about some of these pro's junk being non existent.. Now if you want to get huge huge for girls,then why make your d!ck shrink?oh, see, i thought you knew a little something about this stuff? you train with kai? check out his crotch region next time you see him ;D roids make ur balls shrink up because they stop producing test and sperm... your cock stays the exact same.. in fact the increased blood flow from roids will even make your erections a little thicker, longer,m and harder.. ;)
you are right ,,they talk abotu different things,,they dont consider the gh doses,, when you are in anabolic state on lots of gh you are very hungry every few hours,,every 2-3 hours you are hungry as a mother fucker,,and the food doesnt go into the toilet...
sadly later on past 205-210 or so on stage ...it goes into the gut due to insulina and the such
btu yes some need to eat every 2-3 hours especialy if on gh doses and high ghdoses,,you just way too hungry and can utilize it,,
fellas on aas only ...they can eat every 4 hours no problem and be fine,,sometimes even 5 hours and aas will forgive you enogh to sometime eat every 6-7 hours
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oh, see, i thought you knew a little something about this stuff? you train with kai? check out his crotch region next time you see him ;D roids make ur balls shrink up because they stop producing test and sperm... your cock stays the exact same.. in fact the increased blood flow from roids will even make your erections a little thicker, longer,m and harder.. ;)
thats why i feel i talk to the wall,,i keep saying something and you keep going in your trenbolna rage,,I feel like I'm talking to a new born.. If you inject yourself with so much drugs that you're body can no longer produce it on it's own.....You're Phucked! Now just to be somewhat normal,you have to take more drugs! It's just plain dumb! With all of lifes problems,you just made another one for yourself,all because you felt the need to listen to an idiot ,who can't write a sentence without misspelling more than half wrong..
i keep telling you when you are on for logn time and evry bodybuilder who get anywehre is ...you are more healthy on hormones than off,, because you need hormones because you have new levels in body ,,you want to keep body stable and on top performance,,and your body is used to specific level of hormones...thats why no one truly go off and when they do you have mustafa like zombies...
nothing wrong with hrt testosterona of 400-500 mg a week ...can do even with 250 mg ,,many use it and nothing wrong with it ,,you can even get your girl prego on it ,,
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If you hang out with Pro's and do as they do,doesn't that mean you want to look like them,try to be like them? I'm sorry If ,I may have gotten that wrong..?yesss you are very wrong!
So him giving drug advice and you taking it makes him a WINNER..? Lol.. I read.. I also read that because he's such a winner his life is in danger.. lol... He'll expose the pro's for being Liars but would not let you know who he is!?
Listen.. The truth is,if he's so honest,wouldn't it make more sense to say,listen,this is who i am,and if anything happens to me,these are the folks that are responsible,just in case..?
I have no issues.. I'm good..
Have a wonderful evening.
oh, see, i thought you knew a little something about this stuff? you train with kai? check out his crotch region next time you see him ;D roids make ur balls shrink up because they stop producing test and sperm... your cock stays the exact same.. in fact the increased blood flow from roids will even make your erections a little thicker, longer,m and harder.. ;)No thank's..LOL.. I say what's up and keep it moving.. Kai is a really cool guy.. I didn't know he did all that stuff(grapefruiting),until someone posted it here.. I'll take your word for it Mr.Bombz..Tbombz.. I;m fine just the way I am.
wrong!!!! probably even counter productive... try spacing your meals out about 4-5 hours apart.. 1 gram protein per lb LEAN body weight is allI can't speak for people who aren't natural, but I actually prefer the "2-3" hours apart 5 to 6 meals a day. Made my best gains this way and my body is used to using the nutrients that way to make gains. Can't argue with results!
yesss you are very wrong!Good enough.. I can respect that..
maybe you copy behaviour of the people you hang out with, i have my own opinions.
they are friends or people i know, why would i want to be like them?
i have competed as a junior bodybuilder, and never as an adult.
i have to much stuff to do, to commit to doing a prep, i have a daughter that needs my attention.
maybe one day i will compete again, maybe not. until then i am in great shape.
i do it because i like it.
i do not have the desire to go pro. some of my friends do and did it.
furthermore, i like gh15 because he is saying what needs to be done to get to pro level.
without bullshit!
i have seen it, i have cycled meself... still do!
i prep guys as well, so i am a bodybuilder like many here , and info that we give eachother should be correct!
that is all i am saying
and please read my post well, before jumping to conclusions again, thank you :D
No thank's..LOL.. I say what's up and keep it moving.. Kai is a really cool guy.. I didn't know he did all that stuff(grapefruiting),until someone posted it here.. I'll take your word for it Mr.Bombz..Tbombz.. I;m fine just the way I am.
look at THE FUCKIN CONDITION OF THAT ARM,,this is 17 inch arm that can easily be 18.5 inch arm with little water and another 1-2% of bodyfat...this is not natural anything,,this is 17 inch of pure lean beef!...at 5'8 5'9 this is direct result of hormonal usage,,you are hormonized and not for couple months,,for long long time
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what the worm is saying is bunch of balonie to get reaction ,, i keep telling yo over and over and i repat this many years,,ANAY ONE ON A FORUM LIKE GETBIG IS VERY VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN BODYBUILDING AND IN BEING A BODYBUILDER,,MAJORITY HERE ARE BODYBUILDERS UNDER GIMICK ACCOUNT THAT REFUSE TO ACCEPT MY ABSOLIT AUTHORITY THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME LIKE WHEN YUO CHOOSE A KING IN ENGLAND,,,THE REASON IT WS GIVEN TO ME MR WORM IS BECAUSE THE TRUE BODYBUILDER KNOW I SPEAK THE TRUTH ,,THEY KNOW ITS NOT GOOGLES OR YAHOO INFORMATIN THAT IS PASTED HERE,,THYE KNOW IT BECAUSE THEY TOO HAVE DONE IT !
the main problem is that it is very sad gh15 need to even be created to begin with and i cant come on my real name this is the problem ,,
LASTLY!
take a look at this book ,,this is the route of all the problems,,now i am aware many here are youngesters in their early 20s,,but even you fellas and this is for you ...i want you to take a look at this book,,it is important IMPORTANT FOR YOU MY FRIENDS TO UNDERSTAND HOW FELLAS LIKE COACH ,,FOREST I MEAN HOWARD ,, VINCE PFC TRG G2 PEPTIDE1 AND MANY LIKE THEM WERE CREATED,,
THIS BOOK AFTER READING IT OR GOING THROUGH IT...WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE DANTAS...THE TROPOPINS ,,THE GETNY JOHN ,,IT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE GOT ,,
GH15 WANT YOU TO READ IT ,,IT IS IMPORTANT PART OF THE BIBLE,,
AFTER YOU ARE DONE REAIDNG IT YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HOW THE LIES GOT SO BIG AND HOW IT ALL STARTED,,
try to finish the book before you vomit though,,
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Why all the doubt that J-Rod is a completely natural Bodybuilder? Many years ago when I was in the penitentiary, there was a guy in there who had a 17 3/4 arms cold at a height of about 5'6"; I measured them myself; and these were not the biggest arms I saw while in there. Hell, even I got mine up to 17" at 5'7 1/2.
Good to see I'm still taking up real estate in that peanut head of yours. Keep it up proxy gimmick. We went round and round 3-4 years ago and I can do it again. Now you have kids on here believing your spewed bullshit. I could stay off this board forever and still haunt your empty head. I own you!
you want the negatives=
too much attention in the gym
intimidating females
shrunken balls
non stop horniness that occupies your mind 24/7
steroid questions in public aorund people youd rather not dicsuss it next to
losing hair quicker than you would normally
breakouts if you have bad skin or bad hygeine
small, very small chance of prostate cancer.
if you get too large for too long, its alot of stress on the heart and it can shorten life span.
Premature ageing. I have never seen a roider who looks young for their age t, hood 10-15 years older in general.
there you go
I don't know why jeff even bothers posting here. I'm 100% sure that less than 1% of the morons on this board have ever applied themselves to eating, training, and resting the way that is needed to produce the desired results. You can see for yourself that permabulkers are worshipped here for having plenty of muscle underneath all that fat while a lean guy is laughed for being a twink whatever that means.
Right there shows me that most of you identify with being overweight and obese and very very few of you have any definition. So a bunch of losers sit around benching 300 and eating donuts and looking like dogshit have the stones to hide behind their screens and say that jeff is a liar. Real jealousy is a bitch fatasses LOL.
you dont own anyone but yourself,,and your 50 wives own your sorry ass because you cant even get someone to love you ....you are a liar! liars are the worst ,,,no one like liars
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Again....prove it.
C O N D I T I O NNo, not neccessarily. These men were actually in reasonably hard muscular condition. Although this experience was well over twenty years ago, before this I would not have believed that such an extreme level of development was even possible-naturally. In the eighties I was all drugs and never got as big as some of the men I saw in there, and these guys probably trained only when they were locked up. On the streets they were probably all sucked up on dope. There was another guy in there at a height of about 5'7", I swear his arms had to be 19", and he was lean! It was incredible. All this with prison food too! I'm telling you, Iv'e seen it with my own eyes. some people just have genetics off the charts. Thats the reality of it.
you talk abtou fellas at 15% whiel i talk about fells at 5-6 %
c o n d i t i o n ,,
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you do understand that you are on getbig bodybuilding boardings right? you do understand that,,you do understand that you are here alot right? you have 4000 postings im too lazy to go look back im already writign this but i think it was 4000 or close,,anywayLOL.. Oh god.. Training in Kais bedroom!? You're getting desperate and you're reaching..? You have nothing intelligent to say,so your running down your fan club list,in hopes that that adds credibility to your bvllshit!?You're stupid,and they're going to you for advice..So what does that say about them..? LOL! I'm no Croatch. I'm Big Worm BITCH! If you have nothing intelligent to say,then say nothing dirtbag.. I've been here a long time,and I've tangled with the best,and I'm still here. THe best of the best..! Adonis(very intelligent)..Squadfather(very witty) Fat Alex(eh).. So dealing with you is too easy... I have my beliefs and I will not back down... I am against drugs and drug pushers.. SO which are you ?
individuals that even FOUND getbig,, because finding get big is not that easy ....you need to be INTO BODYBUILD,,you really need to be into competetive bodybuild,,into the hormone scene,,,into the ifbb and the npc,,you need to be into serious bodybuild,,becaus many who are just liking to work out and fitness dont even spend a minute here,,they maybe come for 15 min read every week or so ,,they dotn spend so much time here friend,,
do you understand how it looks? do you understand that all the how they call it ownage you suffer here from all those people who write posting to back gh15 up...do you understand why they write it? not only because they experienced on themselves what i preach but also because they know what are the type of peole who go into this kind of boards,,,THEY ARE BODYBUILDERS,,anyone who come here is either big big time into fitness or a bodybuilder,,and the ones who big big time into fitness are trying to be bodybuilers or fitness models ,,
so i hope you understand how silly you look ,,you talk abotu kai ,,you talk abotu training in his bedroom lol ,,you talk about this and that,,about al the atmosphere of bodybuild,,you sit here and actualy active participent in disussion involving bodybuilding and competetive one....you know the drugs ,,the names,,you know the so call risk you claim they are....i mean you got to be real real dumb not to see what everyone here think of you ,,and its not only you its any other one of the getny ,,lay nortom ,,skip lacour,,those afraid to show their face here,,they scared to death to show their face here because they know they lie....since you dont make money off bodybuild you have no reason to talk the balonie you do
dont be just another croach ,,not coach but croach ,,see croach is a user that is ashemd of his physiqe that is result of hormonal usage thus claim natural status....he just coudltn grow for many different reasons so he found the blame in steroids,, dont be liek him ,,grow up ,,face the music ,,if you were not in it hand and feet you woudl be right now outside playing ball with your kid and taking your wife to the beach ,,you are here ! remember the kids now had gh15 for half a decade,,they know whats up ,, no more dantas come hre to baloie them ,,and no more getny come here to lie to them ,,and they also know the bad side of hormones via mishko life span ,,i thought them everythign they need to know and they are more than equiped to face bodybuild,,
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No, not neccessarily. These men were actually in reasonably hard muscular condition. Although this experience was well over twenty years ago, before this I would not have believed that such an extreme level of development was even possible-naturally. In the eighties I was all drugs and never got as big as some of the men I saw in there, and these guys probably trained only when they were locked up. On the streets they were probably all sucked up on dope. There was another guy in there at a height of about 5'7", I swear his arms had to be 19", and he was lean! It was incredible. All this with prison food too! I'm telling you, Iv'e seen it with my own eyes. some people just have genetics off the charts. Thats the reality of it.
No, not neccessarily. These men were actually in reasonably hard muscular condition. Although this experience was well over twenty years ago, before this I would not have believed that such an extreme level of development was even possible-naturally. In the eighties I was all drugs and never got as big as some of the men I saw in there, and these guys probably trained only when they were locked up. On the streets they were probably all sucked up on dope. There was another guy in there at a height of about 5'7", I swear his arms had to be 19", and he was lean! It was incredible. All this with prison food too! I'm telling you, Iv'e seen it with my own eyes. some people just have genetics off the charts. Thats the reality of it.those 'hard muscular men' have made quite the impression on you haven't they?
Many years ago when I was in the penitentiary, there was a guy in there who had a 17 3/4 arms cold at a height of about 5'6"; I measured them myself.
These men were actually in reasonably hard muscular condition.
Did you measure his cock with your mouth too?;D
Sounds like you can't wait to go back.
Did you measure his cock with your mouth too?You sure do like jumping all over cocks don't you? Oh but of course..you must be a fag. You sound like someone who would get ass raped in there. Hey man, what is your problem? You don't have to be insulting and disrespectful. I am just sharing my observations ok? Be a man and get over your anger issues.
Sounds like you can't wait to go back.
GH15, Im curious as to what you think the natural weight limit is for a 5'11-6 foot guy at 10%?
6 feet naturaly can get to 195lb at 10%,,give or take 2 lb of waater depending when you ate and how much you ate that include pump so 193-197 on any given day 10%,,thats for 6 feet,,5'11 take 7lb off,,5'10 take 14 lb off from original numbers
weights are in the morning upon waking up ,,one cup of water then go on scale
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I have nothing against jrod and he is "innocent" until proven guiltyWELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
however, i'm pretty sure that he must have a really boring life if he is truly a competitive natural guy
seriously, every natural competitor I have ever met have very boring lives that revolve around not missing a meal
I dunno......at 6'2" I was about 220 and pretty lean. Problem is with my bone size I still looked skinny.
Agree with numbers, aounds about right thereabouts.
I don't know why jeff even bothers posting here. I'm 100% sure that less than 1% of the morons on this board have ever applied themselves to eating, training, and resting the way that is needed to produce the desired results. You can see for yourself that permabulkers are worshipped here for having plenty of muscle underneath all that fat while a lean guy is laughed for being a twink whatever that means.Wrong and perhaps we don`t give a fuck that he posts here at all. Ever thought of that?
Right there shows me that most of you identify with being overweight and obese and very very few of you have any definition. So a bunch of losers sit around benching 300 and eating donuts and looking like dogshit have the stones to hide behind their screens and say that jeff is a liar. Real jealousy is a bitch fatasses LOL.
Yeah, i think there is a bit of flex there.
I have little girl bone structure so look bigger than i am but i doubt i would hit the upper weight limits that an endo/meso would regardless of years training.
WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
I dunno......at 6'2" I was about 220 and pretty lean. Problem is with my bone size I still looked skinny.
WELCOME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
I dunno......at 6'2" I was about 220 and pretty lean. Problem is with my bone size I still looked skinny.
OVER HALF A HUNDRED PAGINAS...
again for the fake coach since he is one little imbasile,,I was alot leaner than 12-14%......at that time I lived bodybuilding, weights and diet, everyday all day, I was considered huge by everyone I knew, however I have huge joints and a massive structure, 220lbs on my frame "looks" very skinny. My wrists are over 8", my ankles are over 11"....and if I remember right around my kneecap is about 18"......many people have met me from here, most people think I am about 240-250 even at this bodyfat.......I float between 270-280 and I have for awhile now.
6'222222222222222222 220 = 6 feet 206......
mr choas here was about 12-14% which is quite lean for him ,,this is what most power lifter consider lean and he is not into bodybuild so this is what he was when he say lean 12-15% and that = 6 feet 195lb at 10%
very very simple to understand
remember again 6'2 is VERY VERY TALL FELLA they need to weight 240lb 10% to even start looking big....that mean 6'2 will not look big to you at 220 unless he is 6-7% ,,6'2 6% is very a big lean ripped fella and considered huge in everyday life
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I was alot leaner than 12-14%......at that time I lived bodybuilding, weights and diet, everyday all day, I was considered huge by everyone I knew, however I have huge joints and a massive structure, 220lbs on my frame "looks" very skinny. My wrists are over 8", my ankles are over 11"....and if I remember right around my kneecap is about 18"......many people have met me from here, most people think I am about 240-250 even at this bodyfat.......I float between 270-280 and I have for awhile now.
thanks-i didn't notice i was gone that long
veyr bad,, if you dont see thaqt fella is real big and i mean REAL BIG,,then we got problem in the gh15 school ,,go rereaqd the bible,, again though i dont remember you as a pupil... in any case reread bible from the begining all 5000 post or is it 6000 or 7000
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Dude we sent a search party to San Francisco to try and find you.
you should have tried Austin
But you dont have any horns ???
true but Austin kicks ass none the less
I have nothing against jrod and he is "innocent" until proven guiltyWhoa!
however, i'm pretty sure that he must have a really boring life if he is truly a competitive natural guy
seriously, every natural competitor I have ever met have very boring lives that revolve around not missing a meal
Good to see you back johnny.....summer is close, some of us appreciate your tanning tips ;D
My final conclusion: Any yahoo can make up some interesting sounding crap on any topic on any internet blog. If they get some to believe it, they feel important and keep going with it.
When asked to verfiy anything they use some lame excuse, as the really fear a loss of status from being exposed as a fraud.
you should have tried Austin
You ready to drop Magnum on us, Johnny?
ofcourse not,,those fellas need to make money and go to work every day ,,,they need to support their bodybuilding,,they actualy go to work ,,or school ,,or even if do nothing they have bills to pay ,,lives to live ,,hosue to pay ,kids to be with ,,they have strsses of lives take care of things ,,put food in the fridge ya know?This is a joke right? you expect me and Jeff to believe that a bunch of overweight undedicated losers spending all day on a message board can't eat healthy because they're too busy working and going to school and putting food on the table?? That's the real LOL in your post.
resting the way it needs to be ,,,, what the fuck is that? resting the way ti need to be fuckin arnold wass cleaning floors 12 hours a day when he came to americana and you see his fuckin physiqe? resting right way lol
those naturals are nothing but liars,,they lie to make a buck,,they look in the mirror every day knowing they lie!
still 220 lb 6'2 probably little taller 6'2 and a half ,, abotu 12% maybe 10-12% i can tell from your body type you were never in the singles at 220 since your body weight will nto allow you to get down to single digit from diet ,,you will jsut get skinny and softer...you need to be bigger inorder to go into single digit ,,bigger than 220....so you were 220 around 10-12 is real lean ,,thats about 195-198 lb for 6 feet at 10% ,,water also is something your body loves,,you hold lots of water on your body even when lean ,,i saw your face iduring the years and body too,,you hold lots of water even when lean ,,lots of water mean 5-15 lb thats a lot for natural since....most hormonized hold this same amount....I was alot leaner than 10-12%, I won't argue with your opinion about something I lived. LOL!
so over all 6 feet 195lb 10% upon waking up maybe 198-200 if eat good warm breakfest with lots of orange juice
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I was alot leaner than 10-12%, I won't argue with your opinion about something I lived. LOL!
EXACTLY the point.He should speak only on what he knows about.......drugs, when he speaks on other topics he comes across like a know-it-all and embarrasses himself.
I could care less if GH15 wants to post drug advice and act like he is this big interent guru, etc.
My issue is mostly with the silly , absurd posts he makes on his "facts" on natural BB limits.
id shoot myself,,that fella is not right in the head as in real life not right in the head
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This is a joke right? you expect me and Jeff to believe that a bunch of overweight undedicated losers spending all day on a message board can't eat healthy because they're too busy working and going to school and putting food on the table?? That's the real LOL in your post.
The other part of your message that fails is that somehow naturals like Chris falido and jeff are making a buck off of bodybuilding. These guys don't make any more then a juiced guy so how does it benefit them financially? Besides there's not money in bodybuilding unless your Jay Cutler or a drug dealer. You keep saying that naturals lie to make a buck but how who exactly is paying these guys all these socalled bucks lol. You have plenty of naturals here like Adonis and Groink and I don't see them making money by taking photos of themselfs. Tell us one natural besides skip Lacour whose made money ever in bodybuilding?
Lots of jealousy in these parts LOL. Jeff, I'm hittinglegsyour chocolate starfish tonight and bringing thechalklube and butt plugs. LOL!!
He should speak only on what he knows about.......drugs, when he speaks on other topics he comes across like a know-it-all and embarrasses himself.There is a limit to everything as nothing can continue increasing exponentially. Quite the opposite actually, everything is destined for entropy.
Like the aliens, lizard people, UFOs, McCain winning, etc, etc.........
I have never once argued with him about his drug advice, mainly cause I don't know, but several other people that do know agree with what he says, so I would never bother questioning it. However his bullshit about everyone being on teh juice, no gains after X years, natural limits on size, etc.....I gotta disagree when I see fit.
Post a pic "SquidVicious" so you can show everyone what a beast you are. ::)You ever make a simple apple pie? What about banana/strawberry?
You are just another whining sadomasochist who has deluded himself into thinking there is a such thing as "clean eating". Furthermore, I am willing to bet the way you eat is FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RR from what you purport (wrongly of course) as "healthy eating". At least we can all rest knowing that you are torturing yourself unnecessarily in a perpetual state of self-owning.
Oh and Fixed.
He should speak only on what he knows about.......drugs, when he speaks on other topics he comes across like a know-it-all and embarrasses himself.
Like the aliens, lizard people, UFOs, McCain winning, etc, etc.........
I have never once argued with him about his drug advice, mainly cause I don't know, but several other people that do know agree with what he says, so I would never bother questioning it. However his bullshit about everyone being on teh juice, no gains after X years, natural limits on size, etc.....I gotta disagree when I see fit.
There is a limit to everything as nothing can continue increasing exponentially. Quite the opposite actually, everything is destined for entropy.Of course there are limits, that's not a question, the question is at what point do you hit those limits? 112 reps or 113?
You ever make a simple apple pie? What about banana/strawberry?Yep and I love both dearly. The apple pie is a curious thing and most will come out too watery so you have to find a way to extract as much water out of the apple without making it too dry. What you do then is slice an apple in quarter inch thick pieces, combine your flavorings, brown sugar, cinnamon, lemon zest etc... in a Dutch Oven to concentrate the flavor and to release the water.
Local pie shop has a banana/strawberry pie that I would knock old ladys off their walkers to stop them from getting the last piece!
Great post, and ditto.Exactly.
Unfortunately, the majority of the meatheads who value his drug advice consider him to have a similar level of expertise on all topics not drug-related, even though he spews a shitload of BS on the same. On the bright side, the ensuing meltdowns on both sides are entertaining to witness ;D
I have seen plenty of guys that exceeded those gh15 limits and passed actual drug tests.
Yep and I love both dearly. The apple pie is a curious thing and most will come out too watery so you have to find a way to extract as much water out of the apple without making it too dry. What you do then is slice an apple in quarter inch thick pieces, combine your flavorings, brown sugar, cinnamon, lemon zest etc... in a Dutch Oven to concentrate the flavor and to release the water.
Agreed. What's your favourite dessert TA?Oh thats just difficult to nail down. Jefferson Davis Pie, Red Velvet Cake, Chocolate Stout Cake, Hummingbird Cake, Lady Baltimore Cake.....List can go on forever. I am partial to cakes and I love baking them.
Oh thats just difficult to nail down. Jefferson Davis Pie, Red Velvet Cake, Chocolate Stout Cake, Hummingbird Cake, Lady Baltimore Cake.....List can go on forever. I am partial to cakes and I love baking them.
Just remember to NEVER use measuring cups and ALWAYS weight your ingredients, otherwise nothing will ever come out correct.
I LOVE the Boston Mud Cake. Ever try your hand at that?
I LOVE the Boston Mud Cake. Ever try your hand at that?I haven`t tried that, I`ve made a Boston Cream Pie and a Mississippi Mud Cake and Mississippi Mud Pie but not a Boston Mud Cake. I`m going to have to look into that one definitely.
Oh I forgot, I made a Chocolate Blackout cake that was the exact same way that Ebbingers Bakery in New York used to make and it was superb.
This morning we made Roasted Red Pepper Cream Sauce with Penne and Tomorrow I will make a Strawberry Dream Cake.
I have to say, I wouldn't mind having access to your money. I would be doing different things with it but not having to work for a living must be nice.You don`t work so whats the big deal? Why aren`t you doing what you wish and what do you wish you were doing?
You don`t work so whats the big deal? Why aren`t you doing what you wish and what do you wish you were doing?
Oh thats just difficult to nail down. Jefferson Davis Pie, Red Velvet Cake, Chocolate Stout Cake, Hummingbird Cake, Lady Baltimore Cake.....List can go on forever. I am partial to cakes and I love baking them.maybe you get into some recipes that call for precision, i kno baking can be pretty excact at times, but for the most part i think measuring food is a completely waste of time and id much rather eye ball quantities of ingredients depending on how it looks like it will taste.
Just remember to NEVER use measuring cups and ALWAYS weight your ingredients, otherwise nothing will ever come out correct.
maybe you get into some recipes that call for precision, i kno baking can be pretty excact at times, but for the most part i think measuring food is a completely waste of time and id much rather eye ball quantities of ingredients depending on how it looks like it will taste.
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I have seen plenty of guys that exceeded those gh15 limits and passed actual drug tests.
In fact I have exceeded them myself I know I am nothing that great.
WITH A STATEMENT LIKE THAT WH0 CAN TAKE Y0U SERI0USLY. 0LYMPIC ATHLETES ALL PASS THEIR DRUG TESTS YET ALM0ST ALL TAKE DRUGS.Every time I see you post I think to myself "Why is Assbruise yelling?"
Yes, get a new keyboard, AssBrush
Every time I see you post I think to myself "Why is Assbruise yelling?"hahaha win!
maybe you get into some recipes that call for precision, i kno baking can be pretty excact at times, but for the most part i think measuring food is a completely waste of time and id much rather eye ball quantities of ingredients depending on how it looks like it will taste.Disaster. Complete Disaster. The biggest no no of cooking is eye-balling it no matter what you are cooking.
Disaster. Complete Disaster. The biggest no no of cooking is eye-balling it no matter what you are cooking.
Especially for baking as its an exact Science. All cooking is Science. If you do not measure ingredients exactly you will NEVER be able to replicate or improve your dish the next time as you will have absolutely no basis to work from.
Disaster. Complete Disaster. The biggest no no of cooking is eye-balling it no matter what you are cooking.
Especially for baking as its an exact Science. All cooking is Science. If you do not measure ingredients exactly you will NEVER be able to replicate or improve your dish the next time as you will have absolutely no basis to work from.
Disaster. Complete Disaster. The biggest no no of cooking is eye-balling it no matter what you are cooking.Adonis, have you ever eaten a goat head ,if you have , how did you prepare it?
Especially for baking as its an exact Science. All cooking is Science. If you do not measure ingredients exactly you will NEVER be able to replicate or improve your dish the next time as you will have absolutely no basis to work from.
Looks rather tasty.I ate goat head once , great taste I even ate the tongue and the brain ,I would like to eat it again but I don't know where to buy it or how to prepare it.
I ate goat head once , great taste I even ate the tongue and the brain ,I would like to eat it again but I don't know where to buy it or how to prepare it.
(http://chefholly.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/dead-goat-3.jpg?w=600&h=450)
I ate goat head once , great taste I even ate the tongue and the brain ,I would like to eat it again but I don't know where to buy it or how to prepare it.Just buy a goat and do it yourself if you loved it so much.
(http://chefholly.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/dead-goat-3.jpg?w=600&h=450)
Just buy a goat and do it yourself if you loved it so much.
I ate goat head once , great taste I even ate the tongue and the brain ,I would like to eat it again but I don't know where to buy it or how to prepare it.86 street and 4th ave in Bay Ridge Brooklyn.. Why the Phuck would anyone want to eat that is unreal to me,but hey,if that's your thing,then that's your thing..
(http://chefholly.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/dead-goat-3.jpg?w=600&h=450)
What part of ''I don't know where to buy it or how to prepare it '' you don't understand ,retard ::)Where are you located and do you know how to use an oven, Charcoal Grill, Pig Cooker?
Yeah, Leafybug looks good; i saw those pics (nice job, Leafy, great progress while still staying "natural," like me). Sure, I'm just trying to make a "a few bucks" of this; but I'm really having trouble getting those bucks... What the hell?
I know right, my jaw is so fucking thick; its been growing out of control.
Thanks, thats nice coming from you.
You TOTALLY got it!!! Thats exactly what I take. Maybe you can give me some advice on how to get even bigger while still being "natural".
we've moved on to baking cakes now.. the estrogen levels are unnataural in this thread.
Disaster. Complete Disaster. The biggest no no of cooking is eye-balling it no matter what you are cooking.all the best cooks i know cook without measuring. but then again, baking pastries and cakes isnt the mainstay.
Especially for baking as its an exact Science. All cooking is Science. If you do not measure ingredients exactly you will NEVER be able to replicate or improve your dish the next time as you will have absolutely no basis to work from.
I ran J-Rod out of town. My work here is done, however I will be back on this thread to enforce Getbig`s rule of law and ensure that if he does return on this thread, that we keep him giving his due.
I only started reading this thread when it reached in the forties or so. I figured it was just J-Rod`s usual boring question and answer session with the usual dick riders riding the dick. Lo and Behold my surprise when I saw something that was long overdue. Getbig had had enough. So I joined in the good fight and it is confirmed that he is ran out of town. He didn`t contribute anything anyways so its no loss to any of us.
Please make sure next time it doesn't take 50+ pages.
Please make sure next time it doesn't take 50+ pages.
I only started reading this thread when it reached in the forties or so. I figured it was just J-Rod`s usual boring question and answer session with the usual dick riders riding the dick. Lo and Behold my surprise when I saw something that was long overdue. Getbig had had enough. So I joined in the good fight and it is confirmed that he is ran out of town. He didn`t contribute anything anyways so its no loss to any of us.
Exactly.
The baking tips are the best part of this thread.I make great Cresent cookies 8)
TA, while I find much of your diet info valid, I disagree with you about JROD.
He seems like a decent guy with a great, natural physique.
i just read yo uwere done with this debate few posting back ,,i just loged on and told myself i will count to 100 and see if forest post again i bet he will,,i was 125 and here he is...
gh15 approved
TA, while I find much of your diet info valid, I disagree with you about JROD.Oh, I have no qualms about giving his due for the physique he has achieved and I don`t doubt for one second that he would be the weirdo in the corner with a backpack full of tupperware containers on the fourth of July with that blank stare in those Wall-Eyes of his, looking like life`s biggest party pooper because he is afraid that catabolism will set in before the first firework goes off.
He seems like a decent guy with a great, natural physique.
Exactly.
All of these "bodybuilding tips" are useless and J-Rod has done nothing for this site whatsoever other than posting googly eyed pictures of himself and offering a poor defense when accused.
I think he is natural myself, but I also think he is probably a candidate for the world`s most dull personality. He has an EXTREME case of paranoia and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that he would make for a wonderful case study to Harvard Medical.
Exactly.
All of these "bodybuilding tips" are useless and J-Rod has done nothing for this site whatsoever other than posting googly eyed pictures of himself and offering a poor defense when accused.
I think he is natural myself, but I also think he is probably a candidate for the world`s most dull personality. He has an EXTREME case of paranoia and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that he would make for a wonderful case study to Harvard Medical.
You're like a human pair of beer glasses.... "see everyone through the eyes of aNeither, you one post wonder. I`m merely shifting the mirror so all can see what J-Rod can`t- the fact that he has a rather severe mental disorder and would find himself aptly applied in the DSM manual.drunkcreep."
Or maybe it's just a case of "we see the world as we see ourselves, and everyone is just a reflection."
Oh, I have no qualms about giving his due for the physique he has achieved and I don`t doubt for one second that he would be the weirdo in the corner with a backpack full of tupperware containers on the fourth of July with that blank stare in those Wall-Eyes of his, looking like life`s biggest party pooper because he is afraid that catabolism will set in before the first firework goes off.
I just think he needs an all expense paid trip to Harvard Medical or Princeton U and rushed to their psychoanalysis department so they can document his delusion for the records. I would be willing to take a collection for this on Getbig if others are also willing.
I don`t doubt for one second that he would be the weirdo in the corner with a backpack full of tupperware containers on the fourth of July with that blank stare in those Wall-Eyes of his, looking like life`s biggest party pooper because he is afraid that catabolism will set in before the first firework goes off.
TA, while I find much of your diet info valid, I disagree with you about JROD.
He seems like a decent guy with a great, natural physique.
Neither, you one post wonder. I`m merely shifting the mirror so all can see what J-Rod can`t- the fact that he has a rather sever mental disorder and would find himself aptly applied in the DSM manual.
Exactly.
and J-Rod has done nothing for this site whatsoever other than posting googly eyed pictures of himself
Oh, I have no qualms about giving his due for the physique he has achieved and I don`t doubt for one second that he would be the weirdo in the corner with a backpack full of tupperware containers on the fourth of July with that blank stare in those Wall-Eyes of his, looking like life`s biggest party pooper because he is afraid that catabolism will set in before the first firework goes off.
I just think he needs an all expense paid trip to Harvard Medical or Princeton U and rushed to their psychoanalysis department so they can document his delusion for the records. I would be willing to take a collection for this on Getbig if others are also willing.
I think someone is still a little upset about having their picture replaced on wikipedia under the natural bodybuilding subject. :'(I never put my picture there, nor was I aware it was changed, nor do I care.
A mirror you've been avoiding your whole life it seems. So if you're only doing this to show others Jrods mental disorder why the catty digs about his appearance?"Sofa King" do you regularly make it a habit to evaluate, compare and contrast two or more males in order to determine which one you find more attractive or which suits your personal preference? I`m quite sure you could find a few websites other than this one to quench your thirsty lust.
I'll help you out with some self-awareness... it's jealousy of a guy who looks better than you in every way. Googly eye's and all he looks better because he doesn't look like a pasty serial killer. Also he gets ripped without looking like one of those stringy hairless cats.... but hey I'm sure you do the best you can with what you have.
"Sofa King" do you regularly make it a habit to evaluate, compare and contrast two or more males in order to determine which one you find more attractive or which suits your personal preference? I`m quite sure you could find a few websites other than this one to quench your thirsty lust.
Perhaps you and your muse, the Mexican Fish-Eyed Dullard should open a few cans of Walden Farms Zero Calorie Syrup, smother each other with it and then have an all night Muscle-Fest watching the 2003 Junior Nationals on Repetrope.com so you can culminate the arousal process on the Dream Tan stained couch of your Pre-Contest Hotel Room.
Oh, I have no qualms about giving his due for the physique he has achieved and I don`t doubt for one second that he would be the weirdo in the corner with a backpack full of tupperware containers on the fourth of July with that blank stare in those Wall-Eyes of his, looking like life`s biggest party pooper because he is afraid that catabolism will set in before the first firework goes off.
I just think he needs an all expense paid trip to Harvard Medical or Princeton U and rushed to their psychoanalysis department so they can document his delusion for the records. I would be willing to take a collection for this on Getbig if others are also willing.
Yeah she was going to leave me yesterday until I told her the news .
"Honey, I am a major part of getbig thread that has just broken 50 pgs! It may go to 100, GOD (or GH15) willing!"
Her face was blank and she uttered OMG! She demanded I show her proof, so I had her see it.
With tears in her eyes she sobbed quietly ; " Any man that can acomplish this , is one I must blow for life"
My life now made complete thanks to getbig, gh15 and founder Ron Aviden.
May gh15 bless us all here at getbig.
Yeah she was going to leave me yesterday until I told her the news .
"Honey, I am a major part of getbig thread that has just broken 50 pgs! It may go to 100, GOD (or GH15) willing!"
Her face was blank and she uttered OMG! She demanded I show her proof, so I had her see it.
With tears in her eyes she sobbed quietly ; " Any man that can acomplish this , is one I must blow for life"
My life now made complete thanks to getbig, gh15 and founder Ron Aviden.
May gh15 bless us all here at getbig.
"Sofa King" do you regularly make it a habit to evaluate, compare and contrast two or more males in order to determine which one you find more attractive or which suits your personal preference? I`m quite sure you could find a few websites other than this one to quench your thirsty lust.
Perhaps you and your muse, the Mexican Fish-Eyed Dullard should open a few cans of Walden Farms Zero Calorie Syrup, smother each other with it and then have an all night Muscle-Fest watching the 2003 Junior Nationals on Repetrope.com so you can culminate the arousal process on the Dream Tan stained couch of your Pre-Contest Hotel Room.
If she has half a brain she'll realize one day how much of a sad, pathetic loser you are. TA has put stated this many times and much more eloquently than I.I like Howard and do not think him sad, pathetic or a loser at all. ???
If she doesn't wake up to smell the glittery thongs, then perhaps she's just as stupid as you. Best of luck, Howie!
You marry girls that love that and live happy :-*:o
Hey you were the one that brought up his appearance, I just wanted to point out that a cheap Rent-A-Centre Donald sutherland looking guy like you shouldn't be throwing stones. As for physiques there's just no comparison, even with drugs you couldn't look half as a good.If that is the best you can muster, you won`t remain here very long. By the way, I never called you gay, I just proposed a fittingly possible and likely scenario that you and Sanchez would engage in provided you two agreed to split the entry fee for whatever vacuous grade school auditorium it is you hold your "Natural" competitions in.
Classic weakass deflection... "yeah well your gay!" And that has to be the reason I've taken issue with your jealous BS couldn't possibly be because you act like a creepy douchebag. But whatever makes you feel better.
I'm not a Jrod fan but when I see a guy like you with no self-awareness repeatedly accuse someone of having a mental disorder like it's your duty to inform people I'm going to take issue with it and give you a dose of reality.
Perhaps you and your muse, the Mexican Fish-Eyed Dullard should open a few cans of Walden Farms Zero Calorie Syrup, smother each other with it and then have an all night Muscle-Fest watching the 2003 Junior Nationals on Repetrope.com so you can culminate the arousal process on the Dream Tan stained couch of your Pre-Contest Hotel Room.Dude,you`re fucking killing me!! LOL ;D
Even my dog thinks TA is funny!
100+ FTWThe ironic thing is that Gonzalez has left the building never to return here. Perhaps he will stick his beak back in come 4 weeks out when his paranoia has peaked and his OCD is in full gear. Hopefully I can derail all of his efforts and put an end to his dreadfully wearisome pursuit of becoming the world`s greatest "Natural Bodybuilder". (as if that is something to even crow about ::) )
Gh15 or GOD willing if that miracle happens I will die a happy man.
My home town will give me the key to the city , elect me Mayor and my mother will cry tears of joy.
I can't wait to call her and say ; " MOM, I just was a major topic in a getbig thread then went over 100 pgs!"
Her reply; " I Thank God ( gh15) for your success"
I like Howard and do not think him sad, pathetic or a loser at all. ???
:o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=375873.0;attach=413787;image)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_bodybuilding
hmmm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_bodybuilding
hmmm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_bodybuilding;D ;D ;D
hmmm
Someone forgot to mention that "natural bodybuilding" is everything under 1g of total anabolics per week.
Sure about that?;D ;D ;D
hahaha adonis has really done it here! ;D
Sure about that?;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_bodybuildingI can`t stop laughing gentleman. I really can`t. I hope raccoon eyes sees this and realizes that he should just throw himself off the roof of his house this weekend.
wow this is getting out of hand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_bodybuilding;D
wow this is getting out of hand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_bodybuilding
wow this is getting out of hand
FYI:
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(http://funny.semichaotic.com/lazy-eye.jpg)
Great build!Agreed.. Great build..
100+FTW
I can`t stop laughing gentleman. I really can`t. I hope raccoon eyes sees this and realizes that he should just throw himself off the roof of his house this weekend.dude this,the racial slander is not needed to get your point across.take a breather and go bake some scones and come back refreshed.
I've trained at Jeff's gym for almost three years and can say behind a shadow of a doubt that he is 100 percent natural. I don't expect guys with awful genetics like Adonis to believe me but cmon guys there has to be at least one guy out of the thousands here who actually has some muscle without using drugs? I mean I know we make fun of this board at BB.com as the place where no one actually lifts but that can't seriously be true can it LOL!Again, you rump riding cock-gobbling Latin worshiping Pollyanna,
As far running Jeff off, he wants you all to know that he'll be back right after he wins the Team Universe to show all you permabulkers his pro card. Enjoy your cakes and donuts jealous fatasses LOL!
Racist slandering isn't exactly a wolloping, its proving your lack of character and morals. He wins. Hope this helps.Sorry, but there is no such thing as racism. How is it possible to define race? What race is Barack Obama? What race are you?
I've trained at Jeff's gym for almost three years and can say behind a shadow of a doubt that he is 100 percent natural. I don't expect guys with awful genetics like Adonis to believe me but cmon guys there has to be at least one guy out of the thousands here who actually has some muscle without using drugs? I mean I know we make fun of this board at BB.com as the place where no one actually lifts but that can't seriously be true can it LOL!
As far running Jeff off, he wants you all to know that he'll be back right after he wins the Team Universe to show all you permabulkers his pro card. Enjoy your cakes and donuts jealous fatasses LOL!
Racist slandering isn't exactly a wolloping, its proving your lack of character and morals. He wins. Hope this helps.
Already been proven that liberals are MUCH more racist than repubs. Nice try tho.Studies please?
Your lack of intelligence is troubling :-\Your lack of dedication is also troubling. I built myself up from a lean 140 to a lean 160 just by watching jeff train and copying his routines and intensity. Like I said I wasn't a mass monster by any means but at my height that was good enough to win the contra costa lightweight title one year naturally. Since then I have added another 16-17 pounds of lean muscle but that has been with some low level testosterone replacement therapy because I'm almost 34 and my t-levels need to be abrogated LOL but it must be done to level the playing field on the national level I'm at now.
Has bodybuilding training advanced over the last 40 years? No. Has nutrition advanced? Yes, but this can only take you so far. Have drugs advanced? Yes, and this is the difference.
Have you ever tried steriods? Why don't you give it a go, come back in a year and you will laugh in jrod's face.
Again, you rump riding cock-gobbling Latin worshiping Pollyanna,haha...they wont recover.
I think he is Natural and steroid free, but that in no way vindicates him from being a googly-eyed monster with mental damage and a grievous case of OCD. I don`t care if you wash his balls in the sink post-workout, the fact is, he is a complete social failure and his extreme paranoia has already rendered him non-functioning beyond his comfort zone which is nothing more than a purposeless dogmatic lifestyle of sucking down BCAA powders and L-Glutamine overdosing in the hopes of coming to terms with his epic insecurity.
I don`t think he will return, but if he does, the walloping he has taken here will seem subdued to what I will unleash upon his reappearance. Consider this a warning.
I've trained at Jeff's gym for almost three years and can say behind a shadow of a doubt that he is 100 percent natural. I don't expect guys with awful genetics like Adonis to believe me but cmon guys there has to be at least one guy out of the thousands here who actually has some muscle without using drugs? I mean I know we make fun of this board at BB.com as the place where no one actually lifts but that can't seriously be true can it LOL!
As far running Jeff off, he wants you all to know that he'll be back right after he wins the Team Universe to show all you permabulkers his pro card. Enjoy your cakes and donuts jealous fatasses LOL!
59>100 FTW
Your lack of dedication is also troubling. I built myself up from a lean 140 to a lean 160 just by watching jeff train and copying his routines and intensity. Like I said I wasn't a mass monster by any means but at my height that was good enough to win the contra costa lightweight title one year naturally. Since then I have added another 16-17 pounds of lean muscle but that has been with some low level testosterone replacement therapy because I'm almost 34 and my t-levels need to be abrogated LOL but it must be done to level the playing field on the national level I'm at now.You're still young.
My point is that if I could compete and win a national show like the contra costa naturally whose to say that jeff couldn't do the same on a bigger stage. And jeff is too busy training like a beast to bother with u jealous ass donut munchers LOL.
Jeff, I got this one. Blue Thunder on you next week!
You're still young.
There's no reason why your test levels shouls be low at this age.
I was going to make the same point. Also, he just claimed to have added 20 lbs of lean mass prior to that. How is that accomplished with diminishing t-levels?He is full of shit to ? ::) ???
I was going to make the same point. Also, he just claimed to have added 20 lbs of lean mass prior to that. How is that accomplished with diminishing t-levels?Yep, and he still claims he's natural, just needs testosterone replacement at 34 to 'level the playing field'.
I was going to make the same point. Also, he just claimed to have added 20 lbs of lean mass prior to that. How is that accomplished with diminishing t-levels?exactly!
You're still young.
There's no reason why your test levels shouls be low at this age.
I was going to make the same point. Also, he just claimed to have added 20 lbs of lean mass prior to that. How is that accomplished with diminishing t-levels?
While his weak calfs may prevent him winning, he looks ripped and should do himself proud at the Team U.::) ::) ::)
I see no reason why he couldn't be natural at his ht and wt.
JROD may never gain the respect of getbig , but he will be a factor in his wt class at the biggest drug tested NPC contest.
I think he can live with that hehehe
I fully realize that the naysayers here at getbig headqtrs are convinced JROD is juiced and don't like the guy.
BUt, I would bet the OFFICIAL contest record will show he passed a drug test and placed well in the Team U.
I'm going out on a limb here and say the official contest results might be a tad more important then his status on getbig. ;)
I fully realize that the naysayers here at getbig headqtrs are convinced JROD is juiced and don't like the guy.
BUt, I would bet the OFFICIAL contest record will show he passed a drug test and placed well in the Team U.
I'm going out on a limb here and say the official contest results might be a tad more important then his status on getbig. ;)
Nobody hates jroids cos he juices, this is bodybuilding, steroids and bodybuilding go together hand in hand, people dislike jroids because he is suspected of lying plus he is an insecure attention whore (like all the homo naturals, Faildick,Kyoshi,Skippy)
Nobody likes you because you are fag bottom bitch ::)
If that is the best you can muster, you won`t remain here very long. By the way, I never called you gay, I just proposed a fittingly possible and likely scenario that you and Sanchez would engage in provided you two agreed to split the entry fee for whatever vacuous grade school auditorium it is you hold your "Natural" competitions in.
Furthermore, I can guarantee you this, the longer you stay here, the shorter amount of time it will take for me and the others to eviscerate your very being so I suggest you follow your friend on the burro he rode out of here with and never log on again.
Funny how Ron goes back on his own board rules about baseless attacks and racism, yet TA stays. Great job Ron!The majority disagrees. Majority rules. You lose, you Minority.
The majority disagrees. Majority rules. You lose, you Minority.
lol @ howard. you display time and time again how OUT OF TOUCH you are with what is happening behind bodybuildings closed doors.
read it again ----- how OUT OF TOUCH YOU ARE WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND BODYBUILDINGS CLOSED DOORS.
your latest: "he will pass the drug test and therefore prove he is natural"
fuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkk!!
i seriously beleiuve you were that guy in school who was the last one to find out santa clause was made up. u were there in something like 7th grade sitting around with mates who hang with you only because they feel sorry for you, trying to convince them the WHOLE lunch, just like you do here on getbig only here it is almost 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, that santa is real.
BUt, I would bet the OFFICIAL contest record will show he passed a drug test and placed well in the Team U.
in the 17 year history of Team Universe, no one has been disqualified or lost their placing because of a failed drug test. They may not go on to the IFBB Worlds, but NPC never announces the results of these "drug tests"
Hey Jeff, why didn't you go onto the Worlds in 2008?
in the 17 year history of Team Universe, no one has been disqualified or lost their placing because of a failed drug test. They may not go on to the IFBB Worlds, but NPC never announces the results of these "drug tests"
Hey Jeff, why didn't you go onto the Worlds in 2008?
JROD, good fact check.
The same criitics that always say drug testing is a joke; are the same ones that say drug testing will ruin the sport and make everyone look like swimmers. If testing is such a joke how come they think it will have such a dramtic impact? Hmmmmmmm.
You know what JROD? You will go and compete at the biggest drug tested NPC contest and will most likely do well.
These getbiggers will still be posting the same negative crap and sitting at home pullin' their puds.
Actions and real results speak a lot more then smack talking. ;)
The majority disagrees. Majority rules. You lose, you Minority.
They were natural enough to pass the test and not be disqualified.
They go down as the official winners. Your opinion and a dime = 10 cents ;)
THAT is my point, understand.
What you THINK, gh15 thinks or I think ,doesn't mean jacksquat .
What counts is the official contest record.
I have no idea what this means. Just say it ...
Ok, it is simple. The opinions of getbig have ZERO effect on the contest results.
The NPC rules and judges ARE what determines who wins NPC shows and goes pro.
When I judge an NPC state or regional show, I use their rules and standards to make my picks.
For example you may not respect a cop or agree with the speed limits.
BUT, if he stops you and gives you a ticket, THAT is the law and your opinion isn't worth much.
Already been proven that liberals are MUCH more racist than repubs. Nice try tho.
say such dumb thing's and do such dumb thing's .. ? Also allow to be pictured for the world to see..? Then come in to a thread that has already been shut down,and talk about baking cakes,da Phuck? LOL..
Funny how Ron goes back on his own board rules about baseless attacks and racism, yet TA stays. Great job Ron!
who is hated more on this forum- Jrod or God/Jesus?
LOL, let's review.
My posts and views are based in reality on what actually happens in real life BB contests.
You and your toadies opinions are based on whatever you can make up that sounds good to eachother.
Hmmm, and you call my posts bullshit? Interesting?
LOL, the fact that some of YOU don't care, has zero effect on the real world of sanctioned BB meets.
Obviously, you don't go to natural contests so for them you and your buddies opinions don't really matter.
Now I understand how you guys think.
You care about what eachother here on getbig think and don't respect what the real , official world of BB thinks.
That is fine, have fun. I'll stick with reality.
LOL, let's review.
My posts and views are based in reality on what actually happens in real life BB contests.
You and your toadies opinions are based on whatever you can make up that sounds good to eachother.
Hmmm, and you call my posts bullshit? Interesting?
Yeah he saw Jrod getting all this attention in this thread for how good he looked got jealous and trashed him until he left then made the thread about himself and his endless cooking tips that he's read about. While crowing the whole time about how he owned Jrod, getting ridiculously personal and petty with a guy who had done nothing to him except look a lot better. Attention whoring at it's finest.Can`t I just be a fan of the design and horsehide? ???
It certainly explains his predilection for wearing Nazi trench coats, the guy is a hardcore racist.
Can`t I just be a fan of the design and horsehide? ???
How can a leather coat be racist?
Tough call. Can we wander outside the forum to answer that?
I am genuinely interested in understanding how your mind works
when you claim that he passed a drug test and is therefore natural, and someone replies that passing a drug test is not a sufficient condition for being natural, what is your ensuing thought process?
do you experience cognitive dissonance and simply revert to your initial premise like a broken computer program in an endless feedback loop?
do you even briefly consider that you don`t have the understanding of drug testing necessary to refute the objection? or does your brain just immediately revert to square one?
youre like the model citizen in an Orwellian dystopia
My issue with some here on getbig is how they seem oblivious to the actual contests and rules.
It si fine to have your own opinions , but you need to balance it with the practical stuff as it exists within BB.
No arguement from me on bodybuilders being wacky! ;D
I stopped seeing the pt of several weeks of toil and giving up my social life just to compete on stage.
So after 17 yrs of doing contests I packed it in and got more into judging and being a fan.
BUT, being a tad more practical it is what the sport/contest end is all about , so, there you are.
When I judge I do my best to use the NPC established norms and standards to pick the winners ( NOT my personal opinion).
This shitty thread is still happening ???
61 pages of JRod renting space in getbiggers heads and at least 5-6 pages of him PWNING TA....hahahahaha!
61 pages of JRod renting space in getbiggers heads and at least 5-6 pages of him PWNING TA....hahahahaha!
61 pages of JRod renting space in getbiggers heads and at least 5-6 pages of him PWNING TA....hahahahaha!Can you please link me to said Pwning. We are all left in a quizzical state of wonderment trying to figure out where these 5-6 pagers occur so if you could be kind enough to highlight them, all would be greatly indebted with appreciation to you.
holy jeebusOh really? Pray tell us, where the above exists on this thread? I see nothing but a Mexican getting sent back to the woodshed by nearly all of Getbig and deservingly so I might add.
you and I finally agree on something
Honestly with all the hassles and fake shit out there I would save your $$, eat a good clean diet, rain 3-4 days week and have extra $$$ to party with and stay at a better hotel.
Oh really? Pray tell us, where the above exists on this thread? I see nothing but a Mexican getting sent back to the woodshed by nearly all of Getbig and deservingly so I might add.
I doubt you will comply because it is simply not possible to generate something that does not exist.
why do you give a shit what I or anyone else thinks12k+ posts and I've never heard of you.......WTF ???
why do you give a shit what I or anyone else thinksOh good heavens, do I lead you to believe I do? I just find it rather amusing that you and Coach have gotten in bed together and fashioned something that only exists within your brains and not in reality in any way. I want the proof that you and Coach claim there is, whereas I am having considerable difficulty in finding any whatsoever. Flatter me and find it but I won`t hold my breath as the old saying goes...
12k+ posts and I've never heard of you.......WTF ???
He only posts on the politics board.I like him, however I do think he gets bullied around by 3333366 and some of the others which has made him quite soft and an apologist in some instances to the ignorant wing of the right.
He only posts on the politics board.Whats he doing up here? Shouldn't he be bashing "the other side"?
Whats he doing up here? Shouldn't he be bashing "the other side"?
Oh good heavens, do I lead you to believe I do? I just find it rather amusing that you and Coach have gotten in bed together and fashioned something that only exists within your brains and not in reality in any way. I want the proof that you and Coach claim there is, whereas I am having considerable difficulty in finding any whatsoever. Flatter me and find it but I won`t hold my breath as the old saying goes...
Oh really? Pray tell us, where the above exists on this thread? I see nothing but a Mexican getting sent back to the woodshed by nearly all of Getbig and deservingly so I might add.
I doubt you will comply because it is simply not possible to generate something that does not exist.
You claim to be of some intelligence. Go back and read the part of the thread were you came in. LOL.In this instance I must not claim anything. I`d prefer a direct link so we can be clear to what we are referring to.
In this instance I must not claim anything. I`d prefer a direct link so we can be clear to what we are referring to.
Go back and read. You make racist attacks think you somehow ran him off by what you say, yet he did nothing to provoke you, that tell me he's so far deep in that deformed cranium of yours it's actually pretty comical. Go and read, I don't have time to expend my energy,Ok, so we can just move right a long then and declare that no link exists due to your inability to provide one. As for race and racism, I don`t subscribe to such notions as they cannot, in any way, be defined. Would you be kind enough to tell me the race of Barack Obama?
Adonis destroyed Rodriguez .
Ok, so we can just move right a long then and declare that no link exists due to your inability to provide one. As for race and racism, I don`t subscribe to such notions as they cannot, in any way, be defined. Would you be kind enough to tell me the race of Barack Obama?
Ya think?
Hmm, let's see , I went to college for like 28 yrs just to end up a teacher.
I have been teaching longer then my students have been alive and I still can't afford a 2nd pair of dress pants.
Yeah, real smart career path to make a good living $$$ ::)
Now I was a real genius when it comes to bodybuilding.
When my peers juiced up ,made gains and went on national prowess , what did I do.
Stayed away from the evil steroids and ended up trying to beat the janitor in a posedown after I failed to make the cut at the Mr Podunk.
Oh and here I am with a pretty wife downstairs while I am up here like a total fag,at age 52, posting on getbig.com.
Do me a favor.I will walk out in the middle of my street, at midnight.
That should give some getbigger who lives nearby enough time to drive by and run me over. Do it, please!
Race is based on the color of skin, he's black.So we just disregard the fact that he is just as much white as he is black?
LOL, you may want to actually READ what I wrote this time . BEFORE you take me too serious. ;)
So we just disregard the fact that he is just as much white as he is black?Race is based on the color of skin, he's white.
Can you also tell me what race this guy is?
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Race is based on the color of skin, he's white.
???He's albino.
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In the traditional biological and anthropological systems of classification race refers to a group of persons who share such genetically transmitted traits as skin color, hair texture, and eye shape or color: the white race; the yellow race.
Adonis destroyed Rodriguez .LOL... Get the Phuck out of here with that.. All Mudonis did was ,fluff up the thread with his baking pies and cakes..
Race is based on the color of skin, he's white.
LOL... Get the Phuck out of here with that.. All Mudonis did was ,fluff up the thread with his baking pies and cakes..How do you explain the case of Congressman Butterfield or President Warren G. Harding who was actually black or William Weatherford who was a Native American Creek Indian despite being only 1/8 th Creek. You would probably have called him white, but you would be wrong to do so.
LOL... Get the Phuck out of here with that.. All Mudonis did was ,fluff up the thread with his baking pies and cakes..
Would bigot be a better word? What do ya think? Are you a racist or a bigot?Neither.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._ButterfieldSee a couple posts up, he's white or albino, he is not black. His genetic make up may be of black descendants, but his race is white.
Nope. He is black and is one of the most prominent members of the Congressional BLACK Caucus.
So there goes your definition, straight out of the window.
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How's yourMy wife is not 45.. I believe you think,that because your mother looked like she was 50 when she had you at 14,every other woman is like that as well.. LOL.45 yr/o haggorgeous wife doing, Big Worm? Haha
How do you explain the case of Congressman Butterfield or President Warren G. Harding who was actually black or William Weatherford who was a Native American Creek Indian despite being only 1/8 th Creek. You would probably have called him white, but you would be wrong to do so.Mudonis.. You know why you're a bum..? Because you waste far too much time on bullshit... Go make some money and buy your lady(or boyfriend) ,a nice home..a real home.. Not that trailer you bought for $200,000 bucks.. You can talk as smart as you'd like,but you have nothing,which makes you nothing..
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Neither.A realist?
See a couple posts up, he's white or albino, he is not black. His genetic make up may be of black descendants, but his race is white.Wrong. He is black and as I said, a prominent member of the Congressional BLACK Caucus. He has NEVER identified himself with being even remotely white. Furthermore that makes no sense "his genetic makeup is black, but his race is white" ::)
Mudonis.. You know why you're a bum..? Because you waste far too much time on bullshit... Go make some money and buy your lady(or boyfriend) ,a nice home..a real home.. Not that trailer you bought for $200,000 bucks.. You can talk as smart as you'd like,but you have nothing,which makes you nothing..My home is a massive estate built in 1850 which used to belong to the Granddaughter of Francis Scott Key and Confederate Major Mcdowell. I`m sorry in disappointing you. :-\
Wrong. He is black and as I said, a prominent member of the Congressional BLACK Caucus. He has NEVER identified himself with being even remotely white. Furthermore that makes no sense "his genetic makeup is black, but his race is white" ::)You sir are correct.. You look Russian....? But are a self hating Jew.. But many people would not know this about you.. Good thing I'm here to remind folks,right?
You see, race cannot be defined, therefore you cannot label anyone a racist. You also are judging a person`s "race" by what they look like to YOU, which is nothing more than what YOU think a particular race SHOULD look like according to YOUR OWN PREJUDICES.
In the case of Congressman Butterfield, your assessment was an epic fail, completely wrong and you proved my point extremely well.
So again, what race is Barack Obama if he is equally white and equally black?
My home is a massive estate built in 1850 which used to belong to the Granddaughter of Francis Scott Key and Confederate Major Mcdowell. I`m sorry in disappointing you. :-\LOL..Sure it is.. ::)
Wrong. He is black and as I said, a prominent member of the Congressional BLACK Caucus. He has NEVER identified himself with being even remotely white. Furthermore that makes no sense "his genetic makeup is black, but his race is white" ::)Maybe you missed the definition that was posted.......that guy is white, no matter what he identifies himself as and Obama is black. Race = color of skin, by definition.
You see, race cannot be defined, therefore you cannot label anyone a racist. You also are judging a person`s "race" by what they look like to YOU, which is nothing more than what YOU think a particular race SHOULD look like according to YOUR OWN PREJUDICES.
In the case of Congressman Butterfield, your assessment was an epic fail, completely wrong and you proved my point extremely well.
So again, what race is Barack Obama if he is equally white and equally black?
Nice..! LOL..
You my good self hating Jew friend are confusing race with nationality. ;)
LOL..Sure it is.. ::)It is. It is also on the National Register of Historic Places.
It is. It is also on the National Register of Historic Places.Sure it is.. Let me guess, Every weekend a tour bus drive tourists to your historical home ,and charge them $25.00 per person to tour this astonishing landmark!?
Sure it is.. Let me guess, Every weekend a tour bus drive tourists to your historical home ,and charge them $25.00 per person to tour this astonishing landmark!?No, but I am on the house tour and anyone can tour my house as long as it is a sanctioned trip by the Historic Commission.
No, but I am on the house tour and anyone can tour my house as long as it is a sanctioned trip by the Historic Commission.Okay Adonis(not Mudonis).. But do yourself a favor and buy a new house,before a hard wind comes along and knocks that old heap down..
No, but I am on the house tour and anyone can tour my house as long as it is a sanctioned trip by the Historic Commission.Does the historical commission help you with funding upkeep of the house? Repairs, paint, roofing, etc, to maintain the original appearance of the dwelling?
Okay Adonis(not Mudonis).. But do yourself a favor and buy a new house,before a hard wind comes along and knocks that old heap down..Its been here since 1850 and unchanged, I doubt any stiff wind will blow anything down. Plus I am surrounded by massive Willow Oaks and about 50 Pecan Trees which would absorb any wind not that it matters. The house is built with solid beams that have now formed an ultra hard almost plastic like resin due to age and is also bricked and concreted on the base surrounding the underground floor. It is built like a monument and Jezebelle and I plan to leave it in our will to the Smithsonian or the town as a museum or teaching tool, something along those lines.
Does the historical commission help you with funding upkeep of the house? Repairs, paint, roofing, etc, to maintain the original appearance of the dwelling?No, but there are ultra strict guidelines in place to which I fully support and follow as far as the inside and outside of the house and landscaping go. I am not to cut down any trees either (I would NEVER do such a thing anyways).
My home is a massive estate built in 1850 which used to belong to the Granddaughter of Francis Scott Key and Confederate Major Mcdowell. I`m sorry in disappointing you. :-\
Its been here since 1850 and unchanged, I doubt any stiff wind will blow anything down. Plus I am surrounded by massive Willow Oaks and about 50 Pecan Trees which would absorb any wind not that it matters. The house is built with solid beams that have now formed an ultra hard almost plastic like resin due to age and is also bricked and concreted on the base surrounding the underground floor. It is built like a monument and Jezebelle and I plan to leave it in our will to the Smithsonian or the town as a museum or teaching tool, something along those lines.Sounds Glorious! It's your house,why would you give a shit about what Jezebelle feels? Have children and give them the life your parents gave you .. Then when it's all over,make life a little easier for them and pass the house on to them.. Then,and only then can Jezebelle have any say..
Sounds Glorious! It's your house,why would you give a shit about what Jezebelle feels? Have children and give them the life your parents gave you .. Then when it's all over,make life a little easier for them and pass the house on to them.. Then,and only then can Jezebelle have any say..Thats exactly what I would do if I were interested in having children. I don`t understand why inheritance is not the norm anymore. That is the way it used to be. I find it disheartening that so many people have to start over from scratch because their family has effectively shut the door on them for no good reason.
Because the majority of the people in this country are not LAZY. That's why capitolism makes this country great.Agreed. I believe a hybrid system works best of Capitalism and Socialism. We do need a bit more Socialism to balance it out though, for instance, True Universal Healthcare which the rest of the industrialized world has. We do have some great tenets of Socialism however, such as the Worlds greatest Military, Police, Fire, EPA, NIH, CDC, Public Works Water/Sewer, our National Parks are some of the very best and the Department of Interior has a huge interest in preserving America`s historical treasures even if the majority of Americans seem to not even care.
Thats exactly what I would do if I were interested in having children. I don`t understand why inheritance is not the norm anymore. That is the way it used to be. I find it disheartening that so many people have to start over from scratch because their family has effectively shut the door on them for no good reason.I agree 1 million%.If you have it,there is absolutely no reason why your children,should ever have to struggle! My mom did it for me,and I will for my children.. My wife and children work in the shop.. My children on the weekends.. .. My kids already know the business,and know it well.. ! The house is there for them ,if they want it..? The business is there for them ,if they want it.. ? You have no idea,how good it feels to know you have great kids.. To know you have a child who think's and does all you do.My youngest just started working out,he wants to be like his big brother,and dad!... Dynamite kids! I could not have asked for better.. If I had nothing ,only my children,I would still be grateful.. The shit that kids are doing these days is horrible..
TA, if you actually had to earn that money to buy and even afford the up keep of that home you claim is yours, you might actually have a grasp of reality. I've always said even if I earned or even inhereted a billion $, I would never retire. You have zero sense of reality.
I agree 1 million%.If you have it,there is absolutely no reason why your children,should ever have to struggle! My mom did it for me,and I will for my children.. My wife and children work in the shop.. My children on the weekends.. .. My kids already know the business,and know it well.. ! The house is there for them ,if they want it..? The business is there for them ,if they want it.. ? You have no idea,how good it feels to know you have great kids.. To know you have a child who think's and does all you do.My youngest just started working out,he wants to be like his big brother,and dad!... Dynamite kids! I could not have asked for better.. If I had nothing ,only my children,I would still be grateful.. The shit that kids are doing these days is horrible..You sir, are a good man and a model father. I wish you could somehow impart this wisdom to others with children. I have no doubt that all of your children will grow up successful and highly intelligent via a direct result from your parenting methods. They are learning what life is about directly so that there are no surprises which minimizes any setbacks and if any do arise, they will be more than adequately equipped to deal with and overcome them.
TA, if you actually had to earn that money to buy and even afford the up keep of that home you claim is yours, you might actually have a grasp of reality. I've always said even if I earned or even inhereted a billion $, I would never retire. You have zero sense of reality.It is really expensive brotha.. Especially an old house..! People don't realize,when the roof leaks..$10,ooo! the basement get's flooded,,$10,000 ! This is money you must have! You can't wait to fix those thing's..! If you have children....When that bay is hungry,you can't tell him/her to wait till payday..You'd better go in to your pocket and make sure you have the money to take care of all that needs to be taken care of..
It is really expensive brotha.. Especially an old house..! People don't realize,when the roof leaks..$10,ooo! the basement get's flooded,,$10,000 ! This is money you must have! You can't wait to fix those thing's..! If you have children....When that bay is hungry,you can't tell him/her to wait till payday..You'd better go in to your pocket and make sure you have the money to take care of all that needs to be taken care of..Which is always why repairs have to be done correct with no expense spared at the highest quality. Roofing is pretty easy though because if you go with a Terne Roof, you may be spending 10-40,000 or more, but the roof will have a lifetime guarantee and will outlive you and it will only have to be done ONCE. (and its historically accurate as that is also what is on Thomas Jefferson`s Monticello)
You sir, are a good man and a model father. I wish you could somehow impart this wisdom to others with children. I have no doubt that all of your children will grow up successful and highly intelligent via a direct result from your parenting methods. They are learning what life is about directly so that there are no surprises which minimizes any setbacks and if any do arise, they will be more than adequately equipped to deal with and overcome them.Wow......! Just WOW!!!!! You have no idea,what that means to me! I'm no softie,but my eyes are a little watery.. Thank you for for the most well written ,heart felt compliment, I've ever received..!
Big Worm, I truly wish there were millions like you as I find this kind of thing reassuring for our future. I can`t tell you how pleased your post has made me. I don`t care if you dislike me, at least know that I think highly of how you are governing your family. That kind of loyalty is pure gold in my eyes and I am now forced to have infinite respect for you. Good on you my friend and I wish well to your family.
Wow......! Just WOW!!!!! You have no idea,what that means to me! I'm no softie,but my eyes are a little watery.. Thank you for for the most well written ,heart felt compliment, I've ever received..!Well I truly meant it and your kids will always remain by your side as a result to your dying day. That kind of thing is priceless.
Well I truly meant it and your kids will always remain by your side as a result to your dying day. That kind of thing is priceless.WOW!! I just have no words.. I feel like a million bucks.. Sometimes a kind word,no matter where it comes from,can really make a bad day,a good day,and a good day in to a great day.. Thank you again.. That was absolutely beautiful.. You made this day great for me..
Not sure how historic homes work, but if that's the case, an incredible expendature in up keep.It also depends on how much you know how to do yourself and if have qualified craftsmen around you. Out west, there is not near as much as far as Historical dwellings go as there is in the East, so the construction will be of a different type and quality. It really is not much upkeep at all. You guys would have never guessed that I primered the entire Summer Kitchen outside today in between posting on Getbig.
Wow......! Just WOW!!!!! You have no idea,what that means to me! I'm no softie,but my eyes are a little watery.. Thank you for for the most well written ,heart felt compliment, I've ever received..!Don't forget to cup his balls. ::)
But if you have let's say a roof leak or replacement (for example) I'm quite sure you don't do it yourselves. In that part of the country, most roof pitches are in the neighbor of a 9/12 - 10/12.More actually.. Most won't touch a messed up roof ,for nothing less than $15/$20,from my personal experience..
Don't forget to cup his balls. ::)You suck your mothers cock with that filthy mouth!? Settle down.. The Getbig elite are chatting ! Actually...you're also one of the elite as well.. ?
But if you have let's say a roof leak or replacement (for example) I'm quite sure you don't do it yourselves. In that part of the country, most roof pitches are in the neighbor of a 9/12 - 10/12.A Terne roof will never leak, they really are high quality so that would be something you wouldn`t have to worry about. There is a house right near me that has the same metal roof since 1860 or so and it simply has been painted/sealed, painted/sealed through all of its life and has never even leaked in 150 years.
i just made an account solely to say this. i've been natural bodybuilding for about 3 years hard. as many may know after those years its harder and harder to progress. i'm about 177 lbs at 9% natty. this guy has been training for what ten years or so? Looked at his pics again to make sure and it's really hard i mean really hard to believe that's attainable . look at the size of his fuking quad/hamstring in the side pose! Look at the back condition. Stage ready almost at 190's lbs? I used to be that naive kid so I won't make fun of anyone's opinions, but what i do hate is people on hormones who lie, come on..
You suck your mothers cock with that filthy mouth!? Settle down.. The Getbig elite are chatting ! Actually...you're also one of the elite as well.. ?I had to break up that love-fest, it was making me sick. ;D
I had to break up that love-fest, it was making me sick. ;DDoes this mean we go back to bashing J-Rod and his quixotic Musclemania quest to nowhere?
I had to break up that love-fest, it was making me sick. ;DLOL... I hear ya brotha..Sorry.
Does this mean we go back to bashing J-Rod and his quixotic Musclemania quest to nowhere?Yes, back to bashing the dirty mexican!! ;D
Yes, back to bashing the dirty mexican!! ;DHave we prepared ourselves if El Guapo does not win the Musclemania? What then?
Have we prepared ourselves if El Guapo does not win the Musclemania? What then?Just congratulate..? What else? He's a good dude ..Why the hate?
Here is a failure/disqualification for you (see pic)
100+ FTW
When did FTW start to mean "for the win"?
Back in the 90's it meant "fuck the world" and gangsters would get it tatted on them and spray pain it on walls.
Western society gets more pussified and metrosexual with each decade.
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When did FTW start to mean "for the win"?Originally it meant Fuck The War.
Back in the 90's it meant "fuck the world" and gangsters would get it tatted on them and spray pain it on walls.
Western society gets more pussified and metrosexual with each decade.
Originally it meant Fuck The War.
Its been here since 1850 and unchanged, I doubt any stiff wind will blow anything down. Plus I am surrounded by massive Willow Oaks and about 50 Pecan Trees which would absorb any wind not that it matters. The house is built with solid beams that have now formed an ultra hard almost plastic like resin due to age and is also bricked and concreted on the base surrounding the underground floor. It is built like a monument and Jezebelle and I plan to leave it in our will to the Smithsonian or the town as a museum or teaching tool, something along those lines.
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Jroids dinner. ;D ;DHaha I was thinking , thats prob all on jRoids bed side table - along with the nanoVapor :D
Well, at least I don't take myself too serious.
I know some of my posts may seem dumb, , what can I say.
I'm just another avg gym lifter trying to have fun here on getbig.
Haha I was thinking , thats prob all on jRoids bed side table - along with the nanoVapor :D
Have we prepared ourselves if El Guapo does not win the Musclemania? What then?there is only one! el Guapo... do not use his name in vain!
Yeah, but the schmoe business is slowing down for me as I get older. :'(
I guess the fantasy of us together lathering up our manmeats will have to hold me.
a telltale sign of Rodrigo's years of steroid use is his gigantic arse
his bubble butt is bigger than Zebra Butt FLex wheeler, years of repeated butt injections
I you suggesting he uses the same sports technology drugs that Ken ''ninja killer'' Wheeler used
100+ FTW
this thread doesn't have the genetics to go 100+
this thread doesn't have the genetics to go 100+
Maybe steroids can help?
Why steroids? You guys are forgetting that supplements have improved.
Yes, and nutrition timing and training science. ::) ::) ::)
with a properly periodized posting regimen the thread might have a chance.
Dorian is better.
Taken 5 days out (prejudging, etc. is tonight):looks healthy and happy ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Taken 5 days out (prejudging, etc. is tonight):I wonder if anyone has licked those striated tris?
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I wonder if anyone has licked those striated tris?sounds like you would love to
riddle for my pupils around the world,,
lets see who knows whas the cause of the PURPELISH skin and undertone the fella is havign now,, clue- it is not the sun lol
comon pupils i want to see yoru knowledge,, show the datas you are not some fish they can get into their boat,,
lets hear it
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riddle for my pupils around the world,,I don't know anymore..... too much info too little concern. New rule... take a bunch of crap and get hyyooooge. More then likely its all legit broskie.
lets see who knows whas the cause of the PURPELISH skin and undertone the fella is havign now,, clue- it is not the sun lol
comon pupils i want to see yoru knowledge,, show the datas you are not some fish they can get into their boat,,
lets hear it
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ofcourse you do ,, try ,, my pupils can see it ,, one of my pupils will know the answer
by the way he increased hgh big time for this competition ,, that liar is really somethign else,, hgh is not the answer though to the riddle
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anadrolona = high blood pressure = purpulish skin ?
Abuser of "hormones" hahahahahahaha
Something went wrong..? He does not look as good as he usually does..?
I wonder if anyone has licked those striated tris?good tris...super cut
Something went wrong..? He does not look as good as he usually does..?
no one said he is sitting and swallow the bathtub like you and others npc competitors or past competitors,, this is nto 2 grams or 1 gram of testosterona...this is exact mesured calculated usage of hormones,, including gh ,, he is at dieing condition which is the only ONLY thing that will get him to where he wants to be which is impressive look ,, this is nto impressive because he regressed...and why did he regress? he regressed due to the usage of growth hormone with out enough aas to go with it,, for! the usage of growth hormone with out enough aas will result in too thin looking physiqe that lack muscle density ....which if you flip him to back side you will be able to see...the gh is there but the aas are lacking....they are there but lackin in dose..for he cant do it for he will look hormonized to even the untrained eye of the fat whore in middle tensessee...soooooo while he may be sucesful in today modern lieing natural bodybuild and even in this competition ....he actualy regressed ,,he just stcuk he cant use more aas and he dont want to go npc...he want to live a lie as natural hormonizer which bring him lower and lower in the level of bodybuild he can be,, its a problem for him now when it come to true development
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Something went wrong..? He does not look as good as he usually does..?
LOL...you're delusional. If you think he took that much then you've discredited yourself to even to the laymen on here. To compare, I took no where's near that much test when I competed last and that was the most I had ever used. Hahahahahahahahahaha!
LOL...you're delusional. If you think he took that much then you've discredited yourself to even to the laymen on here. To compare, I took no where's near that much test when I competed last and that was the most I had ever used. Hahahahahahahahahaha!
i am bodybuilding,, this is the thing,, to me you cant lie....again if i was not correct my ass would be thrown into nowhereness long ago,, there is a reason no one argue with me beside you and coupel others mental cases,,now you took that much but thats not the point,, you LOOKED LIKE SHIT!,,show me one time you looked good and placed well in a competition worth talkin about ,,ONE SINGLE TIME!,, and dont show me some local balonie level zero ,,show me a regional competition where you did anything worth talking about,, and you took every fuckin thing in the book and still coudnt break it in bodybuildLOL... You're an idiot GH.. I do more "ATHLETIC" training.. I run ,lift and box.. I promise you,I'll smoke you in any athletic competition..So what.....??? You look good on stage? I look good in life.. All of your steroid talk is sickening.. Nothing else but hormone this,gh that..? Please extend your vocabulary.. We get it already.. Anyone who has at least a few abs visible is on a tremendous amount of drugs.. Your work here is done.. You can move on to some foreign site,and never return.. Then and only then will we talk about the "legend" GH5teen..
no wonder you are frastrated,, if i were you i would be too twister...
sooooo we turned to ummm ATHLETIC TRAINING! lol youre a joke
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(http://i.imgur.com/B1nm0.jpg)He's looked better..
1-2 grams a week? lol?
Jroid is Small, but looks amazing in certian poses due to Structure.
And shredded as hell. Props
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i think he must of put too much weight onNah he competed as a middleweight .
he actually competed as a LHW instead of a usual middleweight, and perhaps he looks smaller because hes not in the same condition?
If you don't think that's possible without drugs then gh15 has done his job on you.
gh15 makes most people quit. He doesn't sell more drugs.
No disrespect but he looks like shit...epic 14 inch thighs and skellator face...If he looks like shit, what do you look like, not to mention 99.9% of other people on the planet?
Show us the light, big boy.
When someone can show truly impressive natural physiques, as well as how to get there then we'd all gladly trade in the syringes for flax oil, chicken breasts and hard work. Needless to say, it's a pipe dream and bodybuilding is all drugs.
You can like fine doing no drugs, but you will NEVER be IMPRESSIVE looking without them. Never.
i am bodybuilding,, this is the thing,, to me you cant lie....again if i was not correct my ass would be thrown into nowhereness long ago,, there is a reason no one argue with me beside you and coupel others mental cases,,now you took that much but thats not the point,, you LOOKED LIKE SHIT!,,show me one time you looked good and placed well in a competition worth talkin about ,,ONE SINGLE TIME!,, and dont show me some local balonie level zero ,,show me a regional competition where you did anything worth talking about,, and you took every fuckin thing in the book and still coudnt break it in bodybuild
no wonder you are frastrated,, if i were you i would be too twister...
sooooo we turned to ummm ATHLETIC TRAINING! lol youre a joke
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If you don't think that's possible without drugs then gh15 has done his job on you.
gh15 makes most people quit. He doesn't sell more drugs.
Have you been able to achieve Jrods level naturally? If not, why not? If so, show us.
Not trying to start a flame war but whenever someone says that a relatively advance level of development is possible without PEDS I have never seen the person saying that come even remotely close to the level of development and conditioning commented on naturally. Never.
Maybe you are an exception but I highly doubt it.
You can look a lot more "impressive" than J-Rod. Not as "impressive" as Cutler, Coleman, and even top national comp., for sure.
Show you the light? If anyone has any muscle or any leanness they are considered "liers" (sic)
you don't want to see the light
Paint me stupid with Vince Goodrums cock. I want to know how to look better than jrod without using drugs.
Humor me and tell me the secret.
No such thing as a true "natural" competiive bodybuilder, but that doesn't necessarly means he took drugs either.
LOL @ "breaking into bodybuilding" hhaha. As if were some kind of high paying acting career. I argue with you to call YOU out on your ignorance. If I took everything in the book you douchbag, don't you think I'd come in a hell of a lot bigger than 193lbs after 35 years of training? The difference between me, you and everyone else in todays bodybuilding is that I know how to train. You depend on drugs on and offseason, you wouldn't even consider training with out it. LOL "break into bodybuilding" hahahaha. As if I couldn't do damage now if I decided to do the Nationals (masters). Clown.
1. Train like J-Rod. (he didn't invent anything new)
2. Eat like J-Rod. (he didn't invent anything new)
3. Train longer than J-Rod. What is he? 26 years old with 6 years of training?
4. Have better parents (genetics) than J-Rod. He a stringy man who has probably been that way since he was a kid.
5. Enter more shows over more years. How many shows has he done 10? How long has he been competing 5 years?
Any more questions, junior?
just so its clear to every one who read this,, twister has taken EVERY DRUG IN THE BOOK including HGH! this fella is a liar! he sit here on bodybuild boarding laugh at bodybuild because HE COULDNT MAKE IT WITH ALL THE DRUGS IN THE WORLD ...same asssssss heris...heris is also 205 lb 5'8? coudnt make it lol they all think size is everything btu they lack the structure....the muscle flow...they lack everything that make great bodybuilder,, being 200lb at 5'7 doesnt mean you can be advanced bodybuild!
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Yeah, my question is why did you not add the part where jrod isn't natural?
I'm looking for a NATURAL remedy. All you've done is try peddling your wares, snakeoil salesman. Be gone with you.
Until proven otherwise: bodybuilding = drugs. No drugs, no bodybuilding!!
There are plenty of natural bodybuilders in many of the organizations throughout the years who have been just as good or better conditioned that J-Rod. And they've had a lot more muscle and maturity.
The problem is most gettbiggers just say the are "gh15 liers" (sic) So there's really no point in listing them to you.
As far as I am concerned, UNLIKE True Adonis, gh15, Cleanest Natural, Matt C, and the many delusional characters, I don't think MY body is the measurement for everyone else in a world with 7 billion people to be measured by.
I'm also not 7 feet tall with a 12" cock--but that doesn't mean no one is/does.
And you know for a FACT that there "plenty" of natural bodybuilders better than Jrod that are in fact natural. Where are they? Jrod is top of the top? HOw come they aren't competing? I know, despite the incredible sacrifice in life style where everything has to be done to a Tee to have an impressive natural physique these "plenty" just do it for "themselves." Just recreational bodybuilders whose life just happens to revolve around their bodies.
And thanks for being honest. Though you claim a Jrod physique is attainable naturally you yourself have never done so nor will ever do so simply because you can't. And surely you're not claiming that being 7ft tall with a 12" cock is attainable naturally, i.e., by one's own natural effort, as you are Jrod's physique so the analogy is flawedd.
And you know for a FACT that there "plenty" of natural bodybuilders better than Jrod that are in fact natural. Where are they? Jrod is top of the top? HOw come they aren't competing? I know, despite the incredible sacrifice in life style where everything has to be done to a Tee to have an impressive natural physique these "plenty" just do it for "themselves." Just recreational bodybuilders whose life just happens to revolve around their bodies.
And thanks for being honest. Though you claim a Jrod physique is attainable naturally you yourself have never done so nor will ever do so simply because you can't. And surely you're not claiming that being 7ft tall with a 12" cock is attainable naturally, i.e., by one's own natural effort, as you are Jrod's physique so the analogy is flawedd.
i hate to jump into someone else thread ! and i by no mean taking anything from the guys here !ummm..What..? Maybe.....? Never mind.
but some of you needs to understand the lies needs to stop ! i spoke to GH15 and told him a story ! a story that is so fake and lame and it did effect someone big time.
no one asking anyone to share what they eat or take or anything ! just never claim something you are not !
sometimes i see people here either saying " he is all drugs" or "im natural" with a physique that can win any pro show. the first example is so damn lazy and probably fat or skinny cyber rats who blame others because they failed and they are losers.
what is easier than saying all drugs ? they still lazy even n this comment believing you inject go to sleep and wake up the next day with 21inch arms hahhaha
the other not any better because they lie to kids ! the amount of diarrhea this kids having from all the pre-wrokout supplement post and during and creatine this creatine 10 pills this and supplement that is just far ridicules all for what ?
chasing a fake dream because YOU lied to them. the media lied to them !
things are not any better for real bb's because the law allows smoking,drinking and even some countries drugs is gtg ! yet all this war against steroids made bb's go UG !
contamination, bacteria and who knows what else ! the law failed big time because it made thing worse ! not safe and they interfered with out real evidence other than "Roid Rage".
but the bright side of the story bb's still Getting Bigger :D
No such thing as a true "natural" competiive bodybuilder, but that doesn't necessarly means he took drugs either.
ron heirs is on drugs for many years,, same as rodrigez,, same as yourself!,, you know what the diff is? the diff is they compete at team universe and you dont which mean you stil haev some pride... thank god for that,, but all the same scambags ,,
now notice this little game of size and weight...
heris 5'8? 205 lb on stage?........................ ........................ ........... mr twister...5'6 190 lb on stage....
now pupils i want you to say it loud and clear ,, you not me!
what is the diff and why??
all together now....the diff is 15 lb ,,and where did those 15 lb came from pupils? ?
TH EFUCKIN 15 LB CAME FROM THE 2 INCH OF HEIGHT DIFF THE 2 LIARS HAVE ,,1 INCH = 7LB !
ROTTENHERIS DECIDED TO LIE AN OUTMOST LIE AND BE THE SCAMBAG MOTHER FUCKEER HE IS AND DO TEAM UNIVERSE.... LIEING TO EVERYONE
AND LITTLE TWISTER...WAS DECENT ENOUGH NOT TO GO INTO TEAM UNIVERSE BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHATS UP AND HE HAS SOME LITTLE DIGNITY ASOMEWHERE IN THE LEFT SIDE OF HIS BRAIN MEMBRANS
but! they are the same size exactly on stage....one is a liar outmost liar scambag ,, the other is ummm twister with some pride
i absolitly HATE ron heris i hate that fella so much that i will push all my elfs to get him out of bodybuild
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ron heirs is on drugs for many years,, same as rodrigez,, same as yourself!,, you know what the diff is? the diff is they compete at team universe and you dont which mean you stil haev some pride... thank god for that,, but all the same scambags ,,
now notice this little game of size and weight...
heris 5'8? 205 lb on stage?........................ ........................ ........... mr twister...5'6 190 lb on stage....
now pupils i want you to say it loud and clear ,, you not me!
what is the diff and why??
all together now....the diff is 15 lb ,,and where did those 15 lb came from pupils? ?
TH EFUCKIN 15 LB CAME FROM THE 2 INCH OF HEIGHT DIFF THE 2 LIARS HAVE ,,1 INCH = 7LB !
ROTTENHERIS DECIDED TO LIE AN OUTMOST LIE AND BE THE SCAMBAG MOTHER FUCKEER HE IS AND DO TEAM UNIVERSE.... LIEING TO EVERYONE
AND LITTLE TWISTER...WAS DECENT ENOUGH NOT TO GO INTO TEAM UNIVERSE BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHATS UP AND HE HAS SOME LITTLE DIGNITY ASOMEWHERE IN THE LEFT SIDE OF HIS BRAIN MEMBRANS
but! they are the same size exactly on stage....one is a liar outmost liar scambag ,, the other is ummm twister with some pride
i absolitly HATE ron heris i hate that fella so much that i will push all my elfs to get him out of bodybuild
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1 inch = ~ 10 lbs
oh brother. you hate eveyone who has some publicity--and has the balls to show their face to the world (unlike you). Lee priest is the #1 most famous bodybuilder in the world over the last 15 years.
ron harris has been in bodybuilding for like 25 years. you better hurry up and get him out, you friggin' blowhard! ::)
the reason i dont answer you is because youre fake,, you have no idea about bodybuild what so ever,, you have no idea who buy what,, you are fake,, while i was winning shows right and left you were where exacly? when i was doing o placing top 6 where were you ?
you are wanting respond from god of hormones? you will act liek a mature individual ,, otherwize you can suck one of the gimick cocks around here
dismissed
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So I checked the MD board and what a bunch of disgusting liars lol :D
Look at this Tim Martin scumbag:
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/112727-Tim-Martin-says-he-and-others-could-destroy-Kevin-Levrone-in-a-natty-show/page3
And no surprise that Tim is also Ron Harris and Dante approved as being natural because "he passed 30 drug tests". The liars have each others backs.
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http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/75558-Are-there-any-natural-IFBB-guys
you are embareded by me on a regular basis ,, you are one of those disgusintg old liars that need adjustiment every time they open their mouth ,, you cant be more than 190 because you are little! the problem is that again you are 5'6 if... and 5'6 190 is not small in bodybuild 5'10 190 is pretty big on stage ,, you are a LIAR,,you with no hormones would be 150lb this is what you would be after 30 50 and 70 years of training,, you are a little man ...little man that ccouldnt make it in bodybuild,, couldnt make it in marriage ,, and couldnt make it in life...so turned into athlete trainning,, you cant train for shit! walking around with stop watch and talking as a book worm about the the scientific names of muscle do not make you a good traininer! trainers are not needed! the bodybuild who use them is just lazy!,, the athlete who use them are just LAZY
i hope you fellas understand that 190 5'6 = 220 5'10 ON STAGE!,,,reason this twister couldt nto make it is becaue fellas that wee 190 5'10 ...wiped the floor with him on stage EXAMPLE...leafy bug! ,,example my pupil stavio!
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notice closely,, rodigez did again middle weight,,he could nto climb a class,, why? because his genetic respond to hormone suck!,,all if those so call naturals who are hormonized on a regulae basis are a joke ,, it is a joke to even let them compete,,and the sad part! rodrigex look like balonie as middle weight too! ,,I like that some guys think because rodriguess is 150 doesnt take drugs lol...just because he is "150". Ive seen "150" guys shredded swimming on hormones and hgh. hell even I was 150 and ON.
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I like that some guys think because rodriguess is 150 doesnt take drugs lol...just because he is "150". Ive seen "150" guys shredded swimming on hormones and hgh. hell even I was 150 and ON.
just so its clear to every one who read this,, twister has taken EVERY DRUG IN THE BOOK including HGH! this fella is a liar! he sit here on bodybuild boarding laugh at bodybuild because HE COULDNT MAKE IT WITH ALL THE DRUGS IN THE WORLD ...same asssssss heris...heris is also 205 lb 5'8? coudnt make it lol they all think size is everything btu they lack the structure....the muscle flow...they lack everything that make great bodybuilder,, being 200lb at 5'7 doesnt mean you can be advanced bodybuild!
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Ok, again, a difference fucknut who has his (I guess) head up his ass.1. You keep saying i've been on everything in the world, but even the laymen can see that I haven't, I'm done this part of it. 2. Ron, couldn't beat me on his best and my worst.
lol not 150...but yes you are right,, his 175-182lb lol is enhanced,, he has very good physiqe when dialing it in right and he look very good when in the zone,, no one said 175-180lb 5'9 cant look great,,they can look great but! it doesnt mean they are natural,, when rodirigez go on stage 176lb he is on the verge of death as you all seen lol give him the normal 6-7% he is up in the 200lb friendsI was talking about 5'7 - 150lbs guys... 70kgs....on drugs looks like 85kg, unbelievable.
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ron heris would beat you ,, he has much better condition than you ,, SIZE IS NOT EVERYTHING!
MMmm, not in my best condition he couldn't.
read again i fixed it ,,ron heris has more conditioned physiqe than you in your best,,he went on the right compounds for him ,, he still ned to compete at no weight as in NOT COMPETE ,, but if he chose to compete that scambag liar he should have done ti at light heavy and the lower weight in the light heavy,, im in the opinion that a fella like leaf bug wipe the floor with both you and heris at 1 8 7 lb! at his height!
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jrod is like 5'9 or more? i dont know but 150lbs would look anorexic on that height lol..
well one is the winner of his class
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This site is so sad because a Gimmick with bad genetics has convinced a bunch of weak willed neophytes who haven't a clue about Drug free bodybuilding, that this physique can't be obtained without hormones. Look closely at this pic..this is not impossible folks. Now, I can understand people calling a guy like Skip LaCour a liar because I've never seen anyone natural look like him..but J-Rod? Yes, I've seen better naturals than J-Rod. There is nothing about his physique here that implies steroids.
And you know for a fact he's natural?
This site is so sad because a Gimmick with bad genetics has convinced a bunch of weak willed neophytes who haven't a clue about Drug free bodybuilding, that this physique can't be obtained without hormones. Look closely at this pic..this is not impossible folks. Now, I can understand people calling a guy like Skip LaCour a liar because I've never seen anyone natural look like him..but J-Rod? Yes, I've seen better naturals than J-Rod. There is nothing about his physique here that implies steroids.
Remember Luke Wood's last show before he retired. It looked like he loss 30 lbs of muscle. It was speculated that he over did the t3 or the t3 he was using wasn't dosed properly.
Jrod looks like he loss a lot of muscle and just looks like a fitness model. A small one at that.
Anybody have that one he posted some time ago in a similar pose as this?
(http://i.imgur.com/B1nm0.jpg)
just so its clear to every one who read this,, twister has taken EVERY DRUG IN THE BOOK including HGH! this fella is a liar! he sit here on bodybuild boarding laugh at bodybuild because HE COULDNT MAKE IT WITH ALL THE DRUGS IN THE WORLD ...same asssssss heris...heris is also 205 lb 5'8? coudnt make it lol they all think size is everything btu they lack the structure....the muscle flow...they lack everything that make great bodybuilder,, being 200lb at 5'7 doesnt mean you can be advanced bodybuild!
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Why would you live the way he does, to look like that on stage?The real amusing thing is that he lives that way out of sheer stupidity, fear and ignorance. He could eat whatever he wanted, not train as much and look exactly the same.
Oh, I have no qualms about giving his due for the physique he has achieved and I don`t doubt for one second that he would be the weirdo in the corner with a backpack full of tupperware containers on the fourth of July with that blank stare in those Wall-Eyes of his, looking like life`s biggest party pooper because he is afraid that catabolism will set in before the first firework goes off.8)
I just think he needs an all expense paid trip to Harvard Medical or Princeton U and rushed to their psychoanalysis department so they can document his delusion for the records. I would be willing to take a collection for this on Getbig if others are also willing.
The real amusing thing is that he lives that way out of sheer stupidity, fear and ignorance. He could eat whatever he wanted, not train as much and look exactly the same.
This is the worst he's looked out of all of his shows. I don't get the people ragging on his physique because in the past pretty much most of the people on here agreed that he had awesome shape, etc.
2 or 3 years ago:
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He did something wrong this time around. It kind of sounded like from another forum he was getting advice from Kiyoshi Moody, etc.
i am still amazeed that i lay it out to you and you try to guess,, i tell you here what he did wrong!,,he went on gh at dose that did not fit his aas....his skin got thicker while he got leaner...same time,,he didnt have enough aas due to him needing to stay so call fake natural...he didnt have enogh aas to work with the gh to develop something more impressive ...and lastly he fucked it all up by diuretic that he tried to shed water of hgh while the hgh already thicken his skin ...with out the aas to develop the new muscle fibers...the diuretic flatened him and the hgh skin remained thick,, the lack of aas in high enough dose ceated too thin of a physiqe that was still ! good enough to be placed second in the middle weights.. which means one thing! if in his worst show he place second...in his best show he can turn profesional EVEN as middle weight!
the end
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what i mean is ....when you take gh you need to h ave parelel doses of aas to go with that gh dose,, it is diff from one to another but over all when you increase gh or introduce gh you need higher doses of hormones to get the lean growth you look for as in developing the fiber the gh creates,,
the problem with rodrigez is the gh ... the diuretic ...and ofcourse the anadrola,,if you dont know how to work it especialy as natural lol then youll fuck yourself up ,,he didnt fuck much since he gt still second ...but he regressed as you can see for yourself
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i wrote it ,, same gh15 that always write everything,,
what ruined his physiqe as in decreased his lean muscle was the need of less aas and the abiloity to use more hgh ,,, hgh you can use a smuch as you want as team universe competitor and aas you cant,, they go too high on the hgh at times and forget that more aas needed with the gh ...they simply cant take more aas because of the so call natural status ....thats why most so call natural dont go higher on the hgh ....rodrigo went higher....he doesnt have enough experience with it ,, on top of that he used anadrola and didnt time it right,, he wanted fulness and lost detail ,, and on top of that he fucked his final days with diuretic ,, this is how it is period
no t3 fuck ups,, this is not how you look when you fuck uop with t3,, he got second,, when you fuck up with t3 ...you usualy dont place or place very low,, you dont have completely flatten and look like you just entered a gym few months back ,, he still looked like a bodybuildr...and a good one,,just fucked up along the prep,, you can tell he was fuckin up in the purpple undertone pictures,, he looked sick as in ILL,, he was holding too much water for that stage so close to competition ,, he relyed on diuretic and iof you dont know your anadrola and diuretic usage....you will be better off with out the anadrola,,
he tried and failed ,, he did get second and that show how much potential he has
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no t3 fuck ups,, this is not how you look when you fuck uop with t3,, he got second,, when you fuck up with t3 ...you usualy dont place or place very low,, you dont have completely flatten and look like you just entered a gym few months back ,, he still looked like a bodybuildr...and a good one,,just fucked up along the prep,, you can tell he was fuckin up in the purpple undertone pictures,, he looked sick as in ILL,, he was holding too much water for that stage so close to competition ,, he relyed on diuretic and iof you dont know your anadrola and diuretic usage....you will be better off with out the anadrola,,
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i wrote it ,, same gh15 that always write everything,,
what ruined his physiqe as in decreased his lean muscle was the need of less aas and the abiloity to use more hgh ,,, hgh you can use a smuch as you want as team universe competitor and aas you cant,, they go too high on the hgh at times and forget that more aas needed with the gh ...they simply cant take more aas because of the so call natural status ....thats why most so call natural dont go higher on the hgh ....rodrigo went higher....he doesnt have enough experience with it ,, on top of that he used anadrola and didnt time it right,, he wanted fulness and lost detail ,, and on top of that he fucked his final days with diuretic ,, this is how it is period
no t3 fuck ups,, this is not how you look when you fuck uop with t3,, he got second,, when you fuck up with t3 ...you usualy dont place or place very low,, you dont have completely flatten and look like you just entered a gym few months back ,, he still looked like a bodybuildr...and a good one,,just fucked up along the prep,, you can tell he was fuckin up in the purpple undertone pictures,, he looked sick as in ILL,, he was holding too much water for that stage so close to competition ,, he relyed on diuretic and iof you dont know your anadrola and diuretic usage....you will be better off with out the anadrola,,
he tried and failed ,, he did get second and that show how much potential he has
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When would you recommend T3/T4 and how much ???