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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: spinnis on June 09, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
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My keyboard warrior analyze of Ufc cards is back to due popular demand. And with poular demand I mean One request ;D
On Saturday It's Time for UFC 131, Carwin Vs JDS. Was supposed to be jds vs brock until brock got the diverticulitis Again and has now undergone surgey and It was sucessfull. So its rehab time for Brock.
Not alot of big name matches on this card (that doesnt mean anything when it comes to potential great matches though) so Im just gonna focus on the main event.
JDS: Coming out of a 6 fight winning streak in the ufc (never lost in the ufc) 4 out of those 6 has ended in the first round with either KO / TKO. They say JDS has the best standup among HW's in the UFC and I dont know If I can argue. Good boxing which is only getting better and everytime he fights. One reason might be because he gets to train with Anderson Silva on a daily basis. And he trains his ground game with the Nogueira brothers. He is better standing up then on the ground though. And because of Shane being a great wrestler the key for jds is to keep this Standing up. Shane has Super heavy hands but I think JDS can out strike him with the advantage in Speed and technique. And speed kills.
Carwin: Carwin is coming off the loss to Brock which many might argue is because Carwin gassed the fuck out. Besides brock fight hes 4-0 in the ufc and all fights ending in the first round due to either KO / TKO. Carwin is also well aware of the conditioning problem and has taken the neccecary steps to improve this. This means Carwin has dropped 25 pounds and it now "faster" then ever. And has not lost any significant they say. But what do we know. He has also ondergone neck surgey which was sucessfull. Apaprently had a constant pain in his neck for year due to compressed nerves or something. So Carwin is coming back from That and the 25 pounds weight loss. So we dont really know what to expect. Will he all of a sudden be alot faster then he used to be? Shocking JDS with his new found speed? Has it weakened him to he wont be able to take down jds? We dont know.
I do feel that Carwin key to victory is taking jds DOWN. HE might stand for a little while until he realises its better to take him down or go for the td Right away. We shall see.
This is in my mind an easier fight for Jsp then Lesnar would have been. The winner of this fight also gets to fight Cain velasquez for the title.
Demian Maia Vs Mark Munoz:
The classic wrestler VS grappler. Maia is argubable the best submission artist in the UFC today. But he hasn't impressed in his last fights so I dont know what we will see.
Mark munoz is a great wrestler =
"In high school, Muņoz was a two-time California State Wrestling Champion at 189 pounds for Vallejo High School, Asics First Team All American and the 1996 NHSCA National High School Champion.
As a collegian at Oklahoma State University, Muņoz captured two Big 12 titles and earned back-to-back All-America honors at 197 pounds, including his NCAA title as a senior in 2001. He became the first Filipino American at the Division I Level to win a National Championship. He also made the NWCA All-Academic Team for three years and the Big 12 All-Academic squad for four. Additionally, Muņoz was a three-year member of the FILA Junior World Wrestling Team, earning the silver medal in 199"
But hasn't really dominated people in the cage as you would think with his wrestling. So has he adjusted it better for MMA this time?
Will munoz stand with maia or take him down and wrestlefuck him for 3 rounds? Does he even want to be a maia's guard though? I dont know. Would be better for him and the fans if he kept it standing as maia shouldn't have a chance in taking him down. And especially not holding him down if munoz accidentally trips or something.
Jon Olav Einemo (Norwegian) vs Dave herman.
Jan olav was orginally supposed to face Carwin at this card since JDS was supposed to face lesnar. But with brocks illnesss carwin stepped up and Olav has to do with Dave herman. Which is kinda a shame and a huge stepdown. a win over carwin would hve propelled him to the top right away.
Many people might not have a clue who Jon olav is, But hes a Huge norwegian and an Awesome grappler. He is also the Only man to defeat Roge gracie in Abu dhabi open tournament.
Jan olav's last fight was in Pride in 2006 which he won. So hes coming of a Long layoff due to wanting to spend time with his kid and now gets a chance in the ufc right away due to Jan training at Golden Glory and they have good contact with UFC.
So really looking forward to this fight because myself being half Norwegian and all lol.
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It's gonna be a good fight. I don't see Carwin and Jds going past the first round. Whoever connects first with a flush shot takes this one. I'm not sure why Carwin decided to loose so much weight though. Hopefully he didn't loose to much power.
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It's gonna be a good fight. I don't see Carwin and Jds going past the first round. Whoever connects first with a flush shot takes this one. I'm not sure why Carwin decided to loose so much weight though. Hopefully he didn't loose to much power.
Wanted to increse his conditioning.
In my mind though any Hw that goes Full speed like carwin did for a full round Will gas out. But I guess he wants to try something new =)
Should mention that Carwin has been coached by Paul heyman (yes the former wwe guy, ironically brocks "manager" in the wwe) on how to make his "trashtalking" better, and thats why it comes across as fucking retarded. Carwin didn't talk like that before and it doesnt fit him At all.
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Anyone would of been gassed after going bersek like he did for a whole minute straight. He punched himself out. His big advantage was his power and size. He could muscle guys against the cage and work his dirty boxing like he did to Mir. Will see maybe he still has the same power. It's gonna be an interesting fight. I haven't been pumped like this in awhile.
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My opinion is you wish these sweaty tough guys would put you in a rear naked ass puncture
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JDS for the win.
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Should mention Kenny Florianwill be the first ever UFC fighter to fight in 4 different weight classes 185 to now 145. Against Ufc best striker jose aldo's training partner Diego nunes.
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Should mention Kenny Florianwill be the first ever UFC fighter to fight in 4 different weight classes 185 to now 145. Against Ufc best striker jose aldo's training partner Diego nunes.
That's gonna be a hell of a fight.
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Carwin is a B level fighter at best ( all hype ), easy fight for JDS ( Ko 1st round).
Carwin lost weight because the Feds are watching him closely ,I hope this helps.
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Should mention Kenny Florianwill be the first ever UFC fighter to fight in 4 different weight classes 185 to now 145. Against Ufc best striker jose aldo's training partner Diego nunes.
kenny florian is one of my favorite fighters besides mir. \Although he is a great fighter, he could not get past bj penn. I think it is a good move to go down and hoepfully take the belt from Aldo
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angrier guy will win.
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JDS is going to wreck Carwin by TKO
Shane is overrated and his skill is blown way out of proportion.
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It's gonna be a good fight. I don't see Carwin and Jds going past the first round. Whoever connects first with a flush shot takes this one. I'm not sure why Carwin decided to loose so much weight though. Hopefully he didn't loose to much power.
This. I also think it was because of steroids like Che mentioned.
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JDS vs carwin is the only fight on this card i ever remotely care about...I have JDS winning because of age,speed,more technical striker and just being better period..but...carwin can stop anyone in the world with a perfectly placed shot...should be entertaining either way...
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My opinion is you wish these sweaty tough guys would put you in a rear naked ass puncture
;D
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carwin is looking "small".
"carwin is going to have a good 25-30 pounds on JDS coming in.." doesnt look like it. I guess we have wait until weighins
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It also helps Carwin that the fix isnt against him this time.
ReL0l at not defending a basic choke against cock chestnar.
The ultimate fraud championship is looking for a new american hero which can replace the stuntwrestler ;D
Carwin by KO
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Carwin is gonna get wrecked.
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Carwin looks small he lost a lot of size my god.
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Carwin looks small he lost a lot of size my god.
Hopefully he'll gain some back after weigh in.
I'm concerned that his loss of weight will affect his power and confidence.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Hopefully he'll gain some back after weigh in.
I'm concerned that his loss of weight will affect his power and confidence.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
?? I doubt he worries about the 265 limit these days. its not like hes 275 in those photos and has to cut water. And thats not during weigh ins either. so he wont gain more size then what he looks there
carwin has always looked kinda small in photos due to his massive head, but looks big shirtless. so maby its just an illusion but man.
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Why do people forget, Carwin has not been stopped? Lesnar only got the sub because Carwin was gassed from raining fists on Brock's flabby forearms whilst Brock lay on his back offering no resistance. Ref would have stepped in if Lesnar wasn't the Franchise favourite. Carwin to beat JDS in the first round by KO (same way he wins everything).
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Why do people forget, Carwin has not been stopped? Lesnar only got the sub because Carwin was gassed from raining fists on Brock's flabby forearms whilst Brock lay on his back offering no resistance. Ref would have stepped in if Lesnar wasn't the Franchise favourite. Carwin to beat JDS in the first round by KO (same way he wins everything).
Yes, but and? JDS has never been stopped either (one arm bar a long time ago) but never in the ufc and jds has faced alot better opponents..
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Yes, but and? JDS has never been stopped either (one arm bar a long time ago) but never in the ufc and jds has faced alot better opponents..
JDS may have the technical advantage, but take a look at the Gonzaga KO by Carwin and tell me he's not faced top competition. He put Gonzaga on his ass with a half-arm punch. The size he's lost might be just that he's changed his programme to improve his stamina
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you are an adult male (albeit physically in the 8-11 age bracket) who obsesses over huge fighters ... there is hidden homo-erotic lust behind your posts
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JDS may have the technical advantage, but take a look at the Gonzaga KO by Carwin and tell me he's not faced top competition. He put Gonzaga on his ass with a half-arm punch. The size he's lost might be just that he's changed his programme to improve his stamina
Carwin: Lesnar, Mir worth mentioning and gonzaga then.
JDS: Nelson, also gonzaga, Cro cop,werdum, Yvel
ans yes ive mentioned in this thread a few time thats its because of wanted to increse cardio. Even in the first post.
Going to be a good match. JDS are the slight odds favorite, so put some money on carwin if you feel certian, If carwin was trhe favorite I would have put some on jds, but now its not worth it
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Carwin: Lesnar, Mir worth mentioning and gonzaga then.
JDS: Nelson, also gonzaga, Cro cop,werdum, Yvel
ans yes ive mentioned in this thread a few time thats its because of wanted to increse cardio. Even in the first post.
Going to be a good match. JDS are the slight odds favorite, so put some money on carwin if you feel certian, If carwin was trhe favorite I would have put some on jds, but now its not worth it
I dunno, I feel like you proved my point. None of the JDS opponents were top of the game apart from Werdum, who's stand-up's a little suspect.
Personally, I'd have preferred shaub v JDS as they're both up and commers trying to earn their shot.
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I dunno, I feel like you proved my point. None of the JDS opponents were top of the game apart from Werdum, who's stand-up's a little suspect.
Personally, I'd have preferred shaub v JDS as they're both up and commers trying to earn their shot.
shaub only calls out has beens. And imo dissapointed against crocop..
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shaub only calls out has beens. And imo dissapointed against crocop..
Maybe he's smart enough to know you get publicity and fans if you beat the big names. I'll agree though, Cro Cop was rejuvinated and looked like he's upped the dose. He has a big hole in his guard when he winds up a high kick and he just has to throw them to keep the fans happy, so now his blessing has become his curse.
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Maybe he's smart enough to know you get publicity and fans if you beat the big names. I'll agree though, Cro Cop was rejuvinated and looked like he's upped the dose. He has a big hole in his guard when he winds up a high kick and he just has to throw them to keep the fans happy, so now his blessing has become his curse.
Im a huge crocop fan but im so sick of hearing "HE COULD FINISH THE FIGHT AT ANY TIME WITH THAT HIGHKICK" HAS THE DEADLIEST KICK IN MMA etc etc etc etc,
When he hasn't headkicked no one (and made it count) since 2006 lol.
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When he hasn't headkicked no one (and made it count) since 2006 lol.
Yeah, but he's still marketed as the high kick guru, so he pulls out his bag of tricks. He'd be more effective using the power for leg kicks ala Hardonk
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Yeah, but he's still marketed as the high kick guru, so he pulls out his bag of tricks. He'd be more effective using the power for leg kicks ala Hardonk
It sure is, and Im also sure it still messes with his opponents minds
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It sure is, and Im also sure it still messes with his opponents minds
You're thinking pat barry. People said he threw the fight. Seems more like held back from caving in his hero's face.
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You're thinking pat barry. People said he threw the fight. Seems more like held back from caving in his hero's face.
nope.
Im thinking people is always gonna be slightly worried when he moves that leg.
Patt broke Both his Foot and punching hand in the First round. So anyone judging him from post 1 round is a dummy. and he owned crocop in the first.
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nope.
Im thinking people is always gonna be slightly worried when he moves that leg.
Patt broke Both his Foot and punching hand in the First round. So anyone judging him from post 1 round is a dummy. and he owned crocop in the first.
Franklin Ko'd chuck with a broken forearm. Maybe barry's conditioning was off? For a veteran guy with some size, cro cop seems to hold out ok.
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Franklin Ko'd chuck with a broken forearm. Maybe barry's conditioning was off? For a veteran guy with some size, cro cop seems to hold out ok.
in the same round though?. barry fought 2 rounds with a broken foot (fucks up the thing hes best at) and his hand.
Barry did not look as impressive as I thought he would in the last fight though. I have Very high hopes for Pat.
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in the same round though?. barry fought 2 rounds with a broken foot (fucks up the thing hes best at) and his hand.
Barry did not look as impressive as I thought he would in the last fight though. I have Very high hopes for Pat.
Who are the big muay thai hopes nowadays? Overreem? Sodallah? Seems like the BJJ/wrestler base rules the top-ends and the kickboxders are a sideshow
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Who are the big muay thai hopes nowadays? Overreem? Sodallah? Seems like the BJJ/wrestler base rules the top-ends and the kickboxders are a sideshow
Jose aldo is the nex tbig star with insane muay thai =) (only had two matches in it or something though lol)
but wrestler who switches over and becomes great at striking is the most deadly. or great strikers and great bjj guys (like aldo) and fooooooooooocus on td defence and standing up
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Personally, I'd have preferred shaub v JDS as they're both up and commers trying to earn their shot.
To put JDS against shaub is blasphemy...JDS will be a top contender in the UFC for the next decade...Shaub will be an afterthought within 2 years...
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Why do people forget, Carwin has not been stopped? Lesnar only got the sub because Carwin was gassed from raining fists on Brock's flabby forearms whilst Brock lay on his back offering no resistance. Ref would have stepped in if Lesnar wasn't the Franchise favourite. Carwin to beat JDS in the first round by KO (same way he wins everything).
I agree that the ref would have stepped in sooner in most fights, but Carwin was stopped. Tapping out is being stopped anyway you look at it. Anyway, Carwin's huge "claim to fame" is almost beating Brock. Brock handles getting hit in the face worse than any pro fighter EVER in MMA. Cain had him curled up and whimpering like a bitch. JDS for the easy win.
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I havent even seen Nunes fight, But im putting some money on the mfakker for the upset. 3.4x money if he wins I guess americans call it "odds are 340" or something lol.
Only because he seemed SO fucking hungry in the countdown and he has Nothing to loose and kenny might be in over his head with this weightcut thingy.
So hopefully he rocks kenny standing and fishes him of with a TKO!
I put some money on Nelson and Hammil for the upset last even and that went to shit ;D
and ofc some money on the fellow norwegian Jan olav. 2.6x money on him.
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Im a huge crocop fan but im so sick of hearing "HE COULD FINISH THE FIGHT AT ANY TIME WITH THAT HIGHKICK" HAS THE DEADLIEST KICK IN MMA etc etc etc etc,
When he hasn't headkicked no one (and made it count) since 2006 lol.
I cant even believe people mention the possibility of a high kick KO from him anymore. CroCop was the scariest mofo on the planet in 2006, now hes old and needs to retire BAD. People just dont think age matters for some reason.
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I cant even believe people mention the possibility of a high kick KO from him anymore. CroCop was the scariest mofo on the planet in 2006, now hes old and needs to retire BAD. People just dont think age matters for some reason.
ever.single.time and not only once.
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Jose aldo is the nex tbig star with insane muay thai =) (only had two matches in it or something though lol)
but wrestler who switches over and becomes great at striking is the most deadly. or great strikers and great bjj guys (like aldo) and fooooooooooocus on td defence and standing up
Basically everyone then lol.
Cropcop was the mma version of Tyson btw, a destroyer that was good at overwhelming certain guys but had trouble with guys that had the tools to stand up to them and take them out of their comfort zone.
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Basically everyone then lol.
Cropcop was the mma version of Tyson btw, a destroyer that was good at overwhelming certain guys but had trouble with guys that had the tools to stand up to them and take them out of their comfort zone.
there are bjj guys that cant handle wrestlers because of their own sucky wrestling and gets nullified on the ground, or great bjj guy that cannot take down anyone and gets killed standing etc.
Or great kickboxers that has worthless td defence and gets owned that way.
But everyone is getting better at everything so
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there are bjj guys that cant handle wrestlers because of their own sucky wrestling and gets nullified on the ground, or great bjj guy that cannot take down anyone and gets killed standing etc.
Or great kickboxers that has worthless td defence and gets owned that way.
But everyone is getting better at everything so
It doesn't matter what your base is, what matters is whether you have the right attributes/ability to learn what you need from the different disciplines, to make a cohesive style.
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It doesn't matter what your base is, what matters is whether you have the right attributes/ability to learn what you need from the different disciplines, to make a cohesive style.
ofc it matters
doesnt have to Make or break you though. Now we're starting to see guys that started training mma since day one, one is in the ufc, cannot remember his name though
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ofc it matters
doesnt have to Make or break you though. Now we're starting to see guys that started training mma since day one, one is in the ufc, cannot remember his name though
It doesn't mean shit.
Training everything at once from the offset doesn't mean shit either, you can only be good at what you are good at.
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Im a huge crocop fan but im so sick of hearing "HE COULD FINISH THE FIGHT AT ANY TIME WITH THAT HIGHKICK" HAS THE DEADLIEST KICK IN MMA etc etc etc etc,
When he hasn't headkicked no one (and made it count) since 2006 lol.
Hahaha, he hasn't been the same since Gonzaga fucked him up, speaking of which Gonzaga should now be named with the deadliest kick in MMA
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I have a feeling Carwin may win this fight. Despite having 3 weeks notice
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It doesn't mean shit.
Training everything at once from the offset doesn't mean shit either, you can only be good at what you are good at.
Partially agreed. Fedor said something along the lines of the importance of needing a base to fall back on. You can't be good at everything just because you train everything from day 1.
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It doesn't mean shit.
Training everything at once from the offset doesn't mean shit either, you can only be good at what you are good at.
I dont understand. There are guys that trained everything since day and and they are in the ufc. as in they are Good. Ofc they are going to be slighly better at something due yo liking it more or learning that part faster or it comes "natural for them" etc.
Are you saying having a good wrestlinmg base "doesnt mean shit" ? Im confused lol.
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when it was big news that Brock's hands would only fit into 4XL UFC gloves.... Carwin Then decided that his hands were 5XL lol
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Agreed. Fedor said something along the lines of the importance of needing a base to fall back on. You can't be good at everything just because you train everything from day 1.
didnt jamie just say a good base in a certian disciplin? doesnt mean shit?
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I have a feeling Carwin may win this fight. Despite having 3 weeks notice
already in training camp though
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when it was big news that Brock's hands would only fit into 4XL UFC gloves.... Carwin Then decided that his hands were 5XL lol
he also started out at 6"4 290. but apparently shrank to 6"2 ;D
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Without a doubt, having a wrestling base is the best for transition to MMA.
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Without a doubt, having a wrestling base is the best for transition to MMA.
exactly. There might be shit lost in translation lol.
if we have two guys that trained kickboxing for 5 years each, but one has 15 years background in wrestling. Ofc thats going to "mean shit" in a fight
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when it was big news that Brock's hands would only fit into 4XL UFC gloves.... Carwin Then decided that his hands were 5XL lol
Cock's were 2x from what I remember
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Cock's were 2x from what I remember
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Brocks hand is behind carwins hand, when they Touched it was the same size =)
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I'll give my take and predictions:
Anyone that would pay more than $5 to watch this horrific-suck PPV is an idiot.
Dana White can suck it. ::)
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Big hands ::)
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Brocks hand is behind carwins hand, when they Touched it was the same size =)
Hahahahaha you're fucking retarded, you'll never stop sucking lesnar's dick, how can they be behind when they are in the motion of touching hands?!!!? they are an inch from each other, you're so delusional it's not even sad.
same size, Ahahahahahahahahah..
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Hahahahaha you're fucking retarded, you'll never stop sucking lesnar's dick, how can they be behind when they are in the motion of touching hands?!!!? they are an inch from each other, you're so delusional it's not even sad.
same size, Ahahahahahahahahah..
look at the Video. I proved it in a thread months ago lol. Not gonna bother again though
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Either way... Dos Santos looks to be clearly taller than Carwin in the pic on page 1. Carwin seems to be closer tp the camera man too
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Either way... Dos Santos looks to be clearly taller than Carwin in the pic on page 1. Carwin seems to be closer tp the camera man too
They notriously incresed carwins stats at first lol. (was billed at 6"4 during first fight if I remember correctly) Got to the point were he made an official statement about being 6"2 ;D
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I have a feeling Carwin may win this fight. Despite having 3 weeks notice
dont get it twisted carwin was already on this card to begin with he just switched opponents...JDS is the one at a disadvantage being as he has now trained to fight three separate fighters cain,brock and now carwin...
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dont get it twisted carwin was already on this card to begin with he just switched opponents...JDS is the one at a disadvantage being as he has now trained to fight three separate fighters cain,brock and now carwin...
Didnt have to change anything from lesnar/carwin change though (pretty much same with cain also besides cain having the best hands) Both strong wrestlers and heavy hands although carwin has better technique obviously
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dont get it twisted carwin was already on this card to begin with he just switched opponents...JDS is the one at a disadvantage being as he has now trained to fight three separate fighters cain,brock and now carwin...
JDS is going to kill Carwin .
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Danas Vlog's for this event. comes across as a Great guy.
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Junior dos Santos (239) vs. Shane Carwin (254)
I guess photos can be deceiving
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JDS is going to beat Carwin up for 3 rounds. JDS by decision.
Much better standup, 10x better on the ground, much better cardio+ Carwin looks like he's 70lbs lighter so he can't expect to just throw JDS against the cage and pound him.
Carwin could always score a KO with his heavy hands but I highly doubt it.
Carwin's wins have all come against guys who had shit stand up or were 10x weaker than him physically, or both.
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JDS is going to kill Carwin .
i agree...JDS is the youngest most promising heavy to hit the scene in along time...Carwin has the punchers chance but i see JDS picking him apart...
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JDS is going to beat Carwin up for 3 rounds. JDS by decision.
Much better standup, 10x better on the ground, much better cardio+ Carwin looks like he's 70lbs lighter so he can't expect to just throw JDS against the cage and pound him.
Carwin could always score a KO with his heavy hands but I highly doubt it.
Carwin's wins have all come against guys who had shit stand up or were 10x weaker than him physically, or both.
I dont think you give Shane enough credit for what he can do, his stand up isnt polished but his raw power is in the top percentile as far as hitting goes. JDS has superior stand up ability but as was shown in the Mir & Gonzaga fights, all he needs is one punch to pretty much finish anyone he meets. That single punch may not be the KO but it puts him in a dominant position where he can then deliver the finishing blow(s).
I do believe JDS will win, and hopefully i dont look like too much of an ass after all is said and done, but i fancy a strong first 2 minutes from Carwin and if JDS can get through it he'll outscore Carwin from there. If he doesnt find a jab or maintain his distance he might suddenly wake up to find he's no longer the #1 contender. Should be a very good fight.
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Hahahahaha you're fucking retarded, you'll never stop sucking lesnar's dick, how can they be behind when they are in the motion of touching hands?!!!? they are an inch from each other, you're so delusional it's not even sad.
same size, Ahahahahahahahahah..
To be fair to the lad hes right, their hands are almost evenly sized and that is the most misleading pic ive ever seen. All you have to do is watch the video and pause it at the moment their hands meet.
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Main event is a good one, other than that the card is pretty shitty. I actually like the Yves Edwards/Sam Stout fight....look for that one to be a good one...to bad it's not on the main card. I'll be cageside next weekend for the Strikeforce Heavyweight tournament, we'll see what happens there. Like I said before, the winner of tonights fight get Cain Velasquez in Houston on Oct. 8th, I will also be there cageside...I'm goin for JDS but Shane has a game changer of a rt hand so im not counting him out.
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The only footage i found was horrifically pixelated so ive done what i could to clear it up. As you can see, the fists are almost equally sized without taking into consideration Brocks thumb position in relation to Shanes (more evident in the clear still already provided) or the fact Shane is wearing a glove.
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I dont think you give Shane enough credit for what he can do, his stand up isnt polished but his raw power is in the top percentile as far as hitting goes. JDS has superior stand up ability but as was shown in the Mir & Gonzaga fights, all he needs is one punch to pretty much finish anyone he meets. That single punch may not be the KO but it puts him in a dominant position where he can then deliver the finishing blow(s).
I do believe JDS will win, and hopefully i dont look like too much of an ass after all is said and done, but i fancy a strong first 2 minutes from Carwin and if JDS can get through it he'll outscore Carwin from there. If he doesnt find a jab or maintain his distance he might suddenly wake up to find he's no longer the #1 contender. Should be a very good fight.
Anyways--- Can we now agree that nobody can touch JDS except Cain? ( I think he will beat Cain anyway).
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I think Brock and Cain can beat Dos Santos.
2nd fight in a row for Junior that went to the Judges. JDS was unable to finish Roy Nelson and could not stop Shane Carwin. JDS not being able to finish Carwin in the first round was amazing to me. Carwin was down, a bloody mess, and JDS was Tee-ing off... Carwin shouldve been KO'd. From their; Junior's agression lessened.
So I think Velasquez and Lesnar can potentially take out JDS.
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Make no mistake, had just about anyone but Carwin been in that position when JDS was teeing off then they would have been in hospital having their shattered face reconstructed. Shane's ability to take punishment is well known, & like Brock he requires a tremendous volume of strikes to put him away whereas 1 or 2 would KO lesser men.
Excellent performance by JDS, disappointed by Shane however its onto a fight that, just a short while ago, was being touted as a title eliminator and should be explosive. I believe a fully fit, 100% Cain would win the fight but who knows how he'll look (Shogun is a prime example of the #1 coming back from surgery and looking like shit - twice!).
Overall a decent card, lots of judges decisions so we certainly got our moneys worth. Dont know how anyone could give Munoz the first round but some eejit scored him 30 - 27. Great KO from Stout in the prelims and a slow start but very good performance by Florian. He should move back to 155 IMO.
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To be fair to the lad hes right, their hands are almost evenly sized and that is the most misleading pic ive ever seen. All you have to do is watch the video and pause it at the moment their hands meet.
Ofc Im right.. But thx for bothering proving it. It's always funny when someone calls you a retard when you're the one that is right and they're the ones thats wrong. Pretty ironic.
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And holy SHIT can Carwin take a punch. Same as Brock, but Carwin doesn't panick.
And once again my 2 picks loses haha. The odds are so tempting though lol.
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I think Brock and Cain can beat Dos Santos.
2nd fight in a row for Junior that went to the Judges. JDS was unable to finish Roy Nelson and could not stop Shane Carwin. JDS not being able to finish Carwin in the first round was amazing to me. Carwin was down, a bloody mess, and JDS was Tee-ing off... Carwin shouldve been KO'd. From their; Junior's agression lessened.
So I think Velasquez and Lesnar can potentially take out JDS.
Im glad he didnt stop it though, It looked bad but Carwin wasn't wobbly At all walking back to the corner. Good cal by the ref.
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Hahahahaha you're fucking retarded, you'll never stop sucking lesnar's dick, how can they be behind when they are in the motion of touching hands?!!!? they are an inch from each other, you're so delusional it's not even sad.
same size, Ahahahahahahahahah..
now that GraniteCityDon bothered to prove what I already knew. I assume you're the retard hahahahaha hahahahahahah ahahahahah etc etc. Keep quiet when you dont know what you're talking about from now on and you wont make yourself look like a fool again.
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Yves Edwards/Sam Stout fight....look for that one to be a good one...to bad it's not on the main card.
Props to stout for not potentially Really fucking up Yves. Many Many people would have thrown that extra punch (read dan henderson) and if sam would have, it could have ended Really bad.
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I think Brock and Cain can beat Dos Santos.
2nd fight in a row for Junior that went to the Judges. JDS was unable to finish Roy Nelson and could not stop Shane Carwin. JDS not being able to finish Carwin in the first round was amazing to me. Carwin was down, a bloody mess, and JDS was Tee-ing off... Carwin shouldve been KO'd. From their; Junior's agression lessened.
So I think Velasquez and Lesnar can potentially take out JDS.
you must be high...brock would get destroyed and cain is a toss up with the slight edge going to jds by being younger yet having more experience under his belt...
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you must be high...brock would get destroyed and cain is a toss up with the slight edge going to jds by being younger yet having more experience under his belt...
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btw. who's this spinner fag ? isn't that code for being queer? lol
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Carwin is a B level fighter at best ( all hype ), easy fight for JDS ( Ko 1st round).
Carwin lost weight because the Feds are watching him closely ,I hope this helps.
Nice call.