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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Mixed Martial Arts (MMA/UFC) => Topic started by: WeightPSHR on July 30, 2011, 09:43:04 PM
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I knew he was overrated all along, but damn, this was a brutal ending to his
sham of a career.
Looks like M-1 couldn't pay off Strikeforce for the victory.
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I knew he was overrated all along, but damn, this was a brutal ending to his sham of a career.
Looks like M-1 couldn't pay off Strikeforce for the victory.
You had disappeared for a very long time. So you came back just to take shots at Fedor? Get a life. He might have lost 3 in a row, but he'll never be as big a loser as you. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Just because Chuck gets KO's by anyone that breathes on him these days does not mean his legacy wasnt well earned. Fighters wake up 1 day and just dont have it anymore, this has been evident long before mainstream MMA came to fruition.
Fedor should be respected as the best we've seen when primes are compared, but he just doesnt have it anymore. That, my friend, is the simple answer to an otherwise lengthy debate.
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Fedor. Really sad. Wtf is going on? Props to Henson though.
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Suckmymuscle on suicide watch.
I hate to say it but Dana White for all his shi*te is right a hell of lot.
Fedor had zero game plan and just tries to brawl mindlessly. He was extremely overrated and the management team obviously knew this and that was reason they kept him in shit*ty organisations where he could get some easy wins.
Completely exposed.
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Suckmymuscle on suicide watch.
I hate to say it but Dana White for all his shi*te is right a hell of lot.
Fedor had zero game plan and just tries to brawl mindlessly. He was extremely overrated and the management team obviously knew this and that was reason they kept him in shit*ty organisations where he could get some easy wins.
Completely exposed.
Dana whites right? get off the nuts bro. It was summed up at the start of the thread.Hes simply past it and doesnt have it anymore.Incase you dont follow sports in general that are physically demanding, thats what always happens to athletes when they get into their mid 30's.It doesnt mean that they were ever over rated ::)
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Dana whites right? get off the nuts bro. It was summed up at the start of the thread.Hes simply past it and doesnt have it anymore.Incase you dont follow sports in general that are physically demanding, thats what always happens to athletes when they get into their mid 30's.It doesnt mean that they were ever over rated ::)
Haha 34 is too old - freaking hell you guys and your excuses. I forget how old is Hendo??? - haha guy is 40 years old and 20lbs lighter than Fedor. Hendo is a god damn middleweight and Fedor was presumably greatest heavyweight ever lol.
Face it guys, Fedor was a can crusher and has been exposed for what he was. Not saying he was not a good fighter but GOAT - don't make me fuck*ng laugh.
Also, was it not Hendo who got owned by Jake Sheilds who was much smaller.
Too old - hahah Hendo must be in wheelchair by comparison.
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Haha 34 is too old - freaking hell you guys and your excuses. I forget how old is Hendo??? - haha guy is 40 years old and 20lbs lighter than Fedor. Hendo is a god damn middleweight and Fedor was presumably greatest heavyweight ever lol.
Face it guys, Fedor was a can crusher and has been exposed for what he was. Not saying he was not a good fighter but GOAT - don't make me fuck*ng laugh.
Also, was it not Hendo who got owned by Jake Sheilds who was much smaller.
Too old - hahah Hendo must be in wheelchair by comparison.
My friend you have provided the very answer yourself. The fact that Fedor has fought most of his life overweight is bound to have a negative effect on him physically, and were not talking muscle but an evident tire of fat.
There is also no science to when a person surpasses their peak otherwise everyone would be in the same boat, you remember it wasnt so long ago that Jake Shields dominated Hendo however he himself would still stand no chance against Fedor and i say that with 100% conviction.
His time has passed, this should be his last fight but if not then he will still go down in the annuls of history as the unequalled greatest fighter MMA has so far seen.
It is a shame that these discussions have to descend into personal attacks when the subjective responses from the very few people that visit here should atleast present a well thought argument. There are evidently people here who only bought into the MMA hype when TUF kicked in, and there are also people here that are knowledgeable fans who have a much deeper interest spanning a much longer period. What we should be doing is bouncing opinions off each other in such a way that the banter will encourage people to come back with enthusiasm. As it is this is a dying board with almost zero interest.
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Haha 34 is too old
35(and not 34) is pretty old for a professional athlete, and age is only one of the considerations, the other being time he has been fighting. When you are 35 and you have been fighting for 15 years, then you are very old. It's not only about chronological age, but the wear and tear of being in many fights. If Fedor had started fighting at 28, then he would still be old for a pro MMA fighter but not that old. But since he started at 20, he is very old.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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35(and not 34) is pretty old for a professional athlete, and age is only one of the considerations, the other being time he has been fighting. When you are 35 and you have been fighting for 15 years, then you are very old. It's not only about chronological age, but the wear and tear of being in many fights. If Fedor had started fighting at 28, then he would still be old for a pro MMA fighter but not that old. But since he started at 20, he is very old.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Hendo has been fighting longer and he is an OLDER and SMALLER fighter. Your excuses are pathetic. Fedor is the biggest sham that MMA ever seen. I'm thankful that the GOAT arguments for Fedor are no longer arguable
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Hendo has been fighting longer and he is an OLDER and SMALLER fighter. Your excuses are pathetic. Fedor is the biggest sham that MMA ever seen. I'm thankful that the GOAT arguments for Fedor are no longer arguable
Yeah, but Hendo never went through the wear and tear Fedor went through.
As for the GOAT argument, that is debateable. The fact is that he fought and beat pretty much all the top heavyweights back in PRIDE. So from 2003 to 2006 he was the Worlds greatest heavyweight fighter. This is not up to dispute. Even Dana White said that Fedor back then was "one of the best".
Whether he is the GOAT is debateable, but there is little question that he is the heavyweight GOAT. Who has a better resume amongst heavyweights? Which heavyweight has had more successful title defenses?
IMO, the guy who beat Fedor last night just might be the GOAT. 2 PRIDE belts in different weight classes, 1 UFC belt and a Strikeforce belt. You can't beat that. Another candidate for GOAT is Anderson Silva since he has been udefeated since 2006, has 15 consecutive wins against top competition, cleaned out his division and then moved up to light-heavyweight and beat two top fighters of that division. But Fedor is certainly a strong candidate for GOAT. Losing three in a row means nothing and has no relevance in determining GOAT.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Didnt Muhammad Ali lose his last 3, yet no one with a brain argues against him being the GOAT HW boxer.
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My friend you have provided the very answer yourself. The fact that Fedor has fought most of his life overweight is bound to have a negative effect on him physically, and were not talking muscle but an evident tire of fat.
Yep, was saying this before the fight. Hendo on the other hand is a gifted, "genetically elite" Olympic athlete. Look at Wanderlei, he peaked about the same time as fedor and now would get ko'd in a custard pie fight.
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Haha 34 is too old - freaking hell you guys and your excuses. I forget how old is Hendo??? - haha guy is 40 years old and 20lbs lighter than Fedor. Hendo is a god damn middleweight and Fedor was presumably greatest heavyweight ever lol.
Face it guys, Fedor was a can crusher and has been exposed for what he was. Not saying he was not a good fighter but GOAT - don't make me fuck*ng laugh.
Also, was it not Hendo who got owned by Jake Sheilds who was much smaller.
Too old - hahah Hendo must be in wheelchair by comparison.
Hold on, i never said 34 was too old.I said in general athletes decline into their mid 30s.It obviously doesnt mean everyone.Dan Henderson might also be a declining fighter, the fact is hes a better fighter based on that match wether theyre both in the decline or not.Calm down son
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L0L AT HENDERS0N BEING A MIDDLE WEIGHT. SUCKING 20 LBS 0F WATER 0VER NIGHT D0SEN'T MAKE Y0U A NATURAL MIDDLE WEIGHT. HENDERS0N IS LEANER THAN FED0R AND SUCKS M0RE WEIGHT. 0P Y0U DUMBFUCK.
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L0L AT HENDERS0N BEING A MIDDLE WEIGHT. SUCKING 20 LBS 0F WATER 0VER NIGHT D0SEN'T MAKE Y0U A NATURAL MIDDLE WEIGHT. HENDERS0N IS LEANER THAN FED0R AND SUCKS M0RE WEIGHT. 0P Y0U DUMBFUCK.
STFU, Assbruise.
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L0L AT HENDERS0N BEING A MIDDLE WEIGHT. SUCKING 20 LBS 0F WATER 0VER NIGHT D0SEN'T MAKE Y0U A NATURAL MIDDLE WEIGHT. HENDERS0N IS LEANER THAN FED0R AND SUCKS M0RE WEIGHT. 0P Y0U DUMBFUCK.
He brought up the fact that Fedor lost to a "middleweight" as if that mattered. The fact is that Fedor and Hendo were less than 10 lbs apart for this fight: fedor was around 220 lbs and Hendo was 210 lbs or so.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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He brought up the fact that Fedor lost to a "middleweight" as if that mattered. The fact is that Fedor and Hendo were less than 10 lbs apart for this fight: fedor was around 220 lbs and Hendo was 210 lbs or so.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Wrong...yet again ::)
Dan weighed 207 after drinking a ton of water to make weight. Had he been under 205 he would not have been allowed to compete. After the giant piss he took post weighing, he stepped into the cage at around 205.
Fedor weighed in at 223. I would not doubt it, if he actually dropped some water weight to not appear as heavy. Be that as it may, the actual weight difference was 18lbs.
So, when fedor was brutalized by Big Foot, the excuse was that Big Foot was too big. What's the excuse when he gets KTFO by a past his prime and 18lbs lighter Hendo?
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Wrong...yet again
Dan weighed 207 after drinking a ton of water to make weight. Had he been under 205 he would not have been allowed to compete. After the giant piss he took post weighing, he stepped into the cage at around 205.
Fedor weighed in at 223. I would not doubt it, if he actually dropped some water weight to not appear as heavy. Be that as it may, the actual weight difference was 18lbs.
So, when fedor was brutalized by Big Foot, the excuse was that Big Foot was too big. What's the excuse when he gets KTFO by a past his prime and 18lbs lighter Hendo?
Yeah, except that Hendo was a very lean and muscular 207 lbs whilst Fedor still had love handles and spare tired at 220 lbs. Big diference. They were probably about the same in terms of lean muscle mass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Yeah, except that Hendo was a very lean and muscular 207 lbs whilst Fedor still had love handles and spare tired at 220 lbs. Big diference. They were probably about the same in terms of lean muscle mass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
EXACTLY AND ALS0 BIG F00T 0UT WEIGHED FED0R BY AB0UT 60 LBS AND T0 C0MPARE THAT T0 HEND0 AND FED0R IS JUST PLAIN M0R0NIC.
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Assbruise.
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Yeah, except that Hendo was a very lean and muscular 207 lbs whilst Fedor still had love handles and spare tired at 220 lbs. Big diference. They were probably about the same in terms of lean muscle mass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lol...you're reaching...it's so sad. You and the rest of the Fedor ball lickers have claimed that Fedor is not just the greatest heavyweight ever, but also the greatest P4P fighter. He just KOd by a middleweight! End of story...lol.
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lol...you're reaching...it's so sad. You and the rest of the Fedor ball lickers have claimed that Fedor is not just the greatest heavyweight ever, but also the greatest P4P fighter. He just KOd by a middleweight! End of story...lol.
Why do you keep saying that he got KOd by a middleweight? What matters is lean body mass and there was no difference in lean body mass between the two of them. Going by your logic, then Akebono should have won all his MMA fights since he was close to 600 lbs which is over twice the bodyweight of the largest heavyweights. So Fedor was 18 lbs heavier than Hendo. Factor in Fedor's spare tires and love handles and Hendo's six pack, and they were roughly the same in lean body mass which is what matters. Hendo actually is leaner than Fedor at 230 lbs!!!!! Brock Lesnar was 40 lbs or so heavier than Velasquez and got TKOd by him, and yet you praised Lesnar as a great heavyweight. What do you have to say about that?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Why do you keep saying that he got KOd by a middleweight? What matters is lean body mass and there was no difference in lean body mass between the two of them. Going by your logic, then Akebono should have won all his MMA fights since he was close to 600 lbs which is over twice the bodyweight of the largest heavyweights. So Fedor was 18 lbs heavier than Hendo. Factor in Fedor's spare tires and love handles and Hendo's six pack, and they were roughly the same in lean body mass which is what matters. Hendo actually is leaner than Fedor at 230 lbs!!!!! Brock Lesnar was 40 lbs or so heavier than Velasquez and got TKOd by him, and yet you praised Lesnar as a great heavyweight. What do you have to say about that?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
What matters is lean body mass!? Lol. If that's the case, then why don't they do away with weighing and start measuring the BF%? You've never trained in any martial arts have you? Fedor's spare tire and love handles may actually be an advantage in his fights. Looking like a bodybuilder i.e. lean and muscular, has NOTHING to do with how effectively you can fight ::) Fedor is most comfortable fighting at 220. That's were he has the best combination of strength, speed & endurance. Getting down to 205 could actually hinder him. Hendo is most conformable at 205 for the same reasons.
A good big fighter will always beat a good small fighter. But, a more skilled small fighter can beat a less skilled bigger fighter. Hendo is a more skilled fighter than Fedor. What does that tell us? That Fedor is not as skilled as everyone thought. He got by by beating less skilled fighters (cans). Once he was matched up with better skilled fighters (whether they are bigger or smaller than him), he was exposed...end of story.
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What matters is lean body mass!? Lol. If that's the case, then why don't they do away with weighing and start measuring the BF%? You've never trained in any martial arts have you? Fedor's spare tire and love handles may actually be an advantage in his fights. Looking like a bodybuilder i.e. lean and muscular, has NOTHING to do with how effectively you can fight Fedor is most comfortable fighting at 220. That's were he has the best combination of strength, speed & endurance. Getting down to 205 could actually hinder him. Hendo is most conformable at 205 for the same reasons.
Listen to me, dummy. The reason why there are weight classes is because, on average, the larger a man is the more lean muscle mass he has and thus the strongest he is. Weight signifies muscle which signifies strength, and the strongest you are the harder you can punch, the easier you can throw your opponents and control them both standing and on the ground. This is why there are weight classes, since a shitty heavyweight can crush an outstanding welterweight with ease. Congo would demolish GSP without even breaking a sweat even though GSP is more skilled. Your argument that a fighter is best at the weight he is accustomed to fight is ridiculous, since going by it then BJ Penn wouldn't need to gain any weight to beat Cain Velasquez since he is at his best as a lightweight. Stupid argument
A good big fighter will always beat a good small fighter. But, a more skilled small fighter can beat a less skilled bigger fighter. Hendo is a more skilled fighter than Fedor. What does that tell us? That Fedor is not as skilled as everyone thought. He got by by beating less skilled fighters (cans). Once he was matched up with better skilled fighters (whether they are bigger or smaller than him), he was exposed...end of story.
Easily countered by the fact that Fedor beat the best heavyweights in the World. The number of cans Fedor fought is irrelevant to establishing his skills since the skills of a fighter are determined by the best he's fought. Fedor could have fought nothing but cans in his career, but if he fought and beat one outstanding fighter, then this means that he is an outstanding fighter and all the cans he beats means nothing. Fedor demolished Big Nog who was good enough to destroy Couture and win the UFC heavyweight belt. Case closed. That is is his skill ceiling and not Hong Man Choi, Zuluzinho or Mikhail Apostolov.
And if Hendo is so much better than Fedor, then why didn't he move up to heavyweight back in PRIDE and took Fedor's belt? The heavyweight class paid more money and has more prestige than middleweight, then why didn't Hendo move up, destroy Fedor and took his belt? Because he knew he would be beat.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You've obviously never trained or fought MMA. Weight does not relate to lean body mass...it's weight from everything...fat, water, muscle & bones. If it were just about lean body mass then Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler would be UFC heavyweight champs.
Large amounts of muscle are in fact a liability. The more muscle someone carries the more oxygen that they have to pump through their body.
Have you ever trained any MMA?
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You've obviously never trained or fought MMA. Weight does not relate to lean body mass...it's weight from everything...fat, water, muscle & bones. If it were just about lean body mass then Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler would be UFC heavyweight champs.
Large amounts of muscle are in fact a liability. The more muscle someone carries the more oxygen that they have to pump through their body.
Have you ever trained any MMA?
L0L R0NNIE AND JAY D0N'T TRAIN MMA. IF EVERYTHING IS EQUAL, THE GUY WITH M0RE LEAN MUSCLE MASS WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.
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You've obviously never trained or fought MMA.
Yes I have, and I'm a heavyweight.
Weight does not relate to lean body mass...it's weight from everything...fat, water, muscle & bones.
Actually, water and fat doesen't give you an advantage in punching power or the ability to control your opponents. Muscle does. Bigger bones means more muscle - the diameter of bones and the muscles that attach to them are related - which explains why, at the same height, a fighter with bigger bones is likely to belong to a higher weight class. So you're wrong.
If it were just about lean body mass then Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler would be UFC heavyweight champs.
Apples and oranges. Everything else being equal skill-wise, the stronger fighter will always win except for lucky punches. Why do you think average men can beat up fit and athletic women? Because men are smaller and weaker than women? Lol.
Large amounts of muscle are in fact a liability. The more muscle someone carries the more oxygen that they have to pump through their body.
Right. So lets get Cain to fight Franky Edgar to test your theory. The former has a lot more muscle so he should lose according to your logic...
Have you ever trained any MMA?
What about you?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Mindspin > Sucky
in all ways
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Yes I have, and I'm a heavyweight.
Actually, water and fat doesen't give you an advantage in punching power or the ability to control your opponents. Muscle does. Bigger bones means more muscle - the diameter of bones and the muscles that attach to them are related - which explains why, at the same height, a fighter with bigger bones is likely to belong to a higher weight class. So you're wrong.
Apples and oranges. Everything else being equal skill-wise, the stronger fighter will always win except for lucky punches. Why do you think average men can beat up fit and athletic women? Because men are smaller and weaker than women? Lol.
Right. So lets get Cain to fight Franky Edgar to test your theory. The former has a lot more muscle so he should lose according to your logic...
What about you?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You've been rambling for so long I don't even know what your ducking point is. What exactly are you arguing?
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You've been rambling for so long I don't even know what your ducking point is. What exactly are you arguing?
Ah, the classic MindSpin escaping through a tangent by making ad hominem invective everytime he gets owned.
SUCKMYUSCLE
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Ah, the classic MindSpin escaping through a tangent by making ad hominem invective everytime he gets owned.
SUCKMYUSCLE
HENCE THE NAME MINDSPIN.
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HENCE THE NAME MINDSPIN.
OK Assbruise
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L0L R0NNIE AND JAY D0N'T TRAIN MMA. IF EVERYTHING IS EQUAL, THE GUY WITH M0RE LEAN MUSCLE MASS WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.
you are an idiot!
that is bullshit! more lean muscle mass, needs more what???? all together now OXYGEN!!
all these muscular guys , gas quicker... a fact!
you need to find a balance.. and more muscle does not equal more strenght!
a fighter needs to be quick, strong and agile....
and some individuls just are chubbier then others.
when a guy looks like shit , does not mean he is not strong and does not have a gastank!
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and about the age factor..
age is a number... just a number...
a fighter will have about 10 years.... some a bit more..
wear and tear... if you start at 20 you can keep going at the top of your game to about early 30's.
if you start at, 30 well you get the picture.....
after time and many fights alot of guys are just not that motivated anymore, combine that with injuries = retirement.
a healthy male reaches peak strenght at mid to late 30's and kan keep that well into his 40's.
powerlifters and strongmen are often their strongest at these ages.
what does go down a bit is speed and reflexes.
but hgh can fix that....
fedor is still a great fighter, but lost the spark! you can see it in his eyes when he comes up to fight.
in pride he had a death cold russian loonatic stare.....
now , well you all heard the f#$$cking music he used for his latest fight right? lol!
still fedor is one of the all time greats.....!
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you are an idiot!
that is bullshit! more lean muscle mass, needs more what???? all together now OXYGEN!!
all these muscular guys , gas quicker... a fact!
you need to find a balance.. and more muscle does not equal more strenght!
a fighter needs to be quick, strong and agile....
and some individuls just are chubbier then others.
when a guy looks like shit , does not mean he is not strong and does not have a gastank!
Y0U'RE THE IDI0T N0T ME. FAT D0ES N0T EXERT ANY F0RCE. READ MY P0ST AGAIN DUMB FUCK.IF EVERYTHING ELSE BEING EQUAL. IT'S IRRELEVANT H0W G00D S0ME0NES IS WHEN THEY'RE FAT BECAUSE THEY'LL ALWAYS BE BETTER IF THEY HAD M0RE MUSCLE MASS 0N THEM. SHIT Y0UR READING C0MPREHENSI0N IS THAT 0F A 2ND GRADER.
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Greater muscle mass equates to greater effort by the heart = gassing quicker.
Fat doesn't breathe.
That's why these fat dudes out-cardio a muscular guy most of the time.
however, it all boils down to one's cardiovascular shape.
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Greater muscle mass equates to greater effort by the heart = gassing quicker.
Fat doesn't breathe.
That's why these fat dudes out-cardio a muscular guy most of the time.
however, it all boils down to one's cardiovascular shape.
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Y0U'RE THE IDI0T N0T ME. FAT D0ES N0T EXERT ANY F0RCE. READ MY P0ST AGAIN DUMB FUCK.IF EVERYTHING ELSE BEING EQUAL. IT'S IRRELEVANT H0W G00D S0ME0NES IS WHEN THEY'RE FAT BECAUSE THEY'LL ALWAYS BE BETTER IF THEY HAD M0RE MUSCLE MASS 0N THEM. SHIT Y0UR READING C0MPREHENSI0N IS THAT 0F A 2ND GRADER.
my reading sucks??? lol you are the one who does not read properly.
how often do you train mma , have you competed as a martial artist??????
my guess is no!
you are an idiot... seriously.
we have plenty of fat and chubby guys at our dojo, who do not gas and ar strong as hell!
muscle needs oxygene, fat doesnt.... when you need more oxygene = you gas faster!
and above all fighting is a lot of technique! when you're good you're good.. fat or muscular.
get it in your skull....
stick to having your boyfriend take pics of you in the bathroom.... you know shit about mma and shit about drugs.
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Greater muscle mass equates to greater effort by the heart = gassing quicker.
Fat doesn't breathe.
That's why these fat dudes out-cardio a muscular guy most of the time.
however, it all boils down to one's cardiovascular shape.
this! x 100
look at roy nelson... dude is fat as they come.... great cardio....
mitrione also not real lean, great cardio
hell even cain is not really lean, also great cardio...
phil baroni, looks like a bb... gassen after 2 minutes.
even my fellow dutchman overeem has a tiny gas tank.
all comes down to genetics and exercise! a fat person can have great cardio!
assbruise is a moron! really dude does not know what he is talking about.
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Greater muscle mass equates to greater effort by the heart = gassing quicker.
Greater muscle also means more powerful punches, more strength for throwing your opponents to the ground and greater ability to control them there. This is why a good big guy beats a good small guy 10 out of 10 times and why combat sports are separated into weight classes. Going by your logic, José Aldo should have no problem beating Shane Carwin or JDS since his heart has a lot less muscle to feed. See how stupid your argument is? Also, the bigger your muscle mass becomes, the bigger your heart also becomes, so it even outs in the end. I agree with you that, if the muscle mass proportional to the original heart size becomes too big, the heart won't grow proportionally as much and endurance will suffer, but the success of super-heavyweights over mere heavyweights, like Big Foot Siva overwheling Fedor, or Brock Lesnar demolishing the far more experienced Frank Mir, shows that the advantages of greater muscle far outweight any potential loss of endurance.
Fat doesn't breathe.
That's why these fat dudes out-cardio a muscular guy most of the time.
however, it all boils down to one's cardiovascular shape.
Actually, you are wrong. Fat does breathe. Human adipose tissue is enervated and must be fed just like muscle tissue. This is why extremely obese individuals experience necrosis: their hearts simply cannot feed their 1,000 lbs adipose bodies anymore, and their fat tissue thus starts to die(necrofile). But I agree with you that fat tissue does not require as much Oxygen and nutrients as muscle tissue, but the difference is that muscle tissue gives you great advantages in striking power and wrestling strength, being irrelevant only for grappling, whilst fat tissue gives you no advantage except making your bones better at absorbing shock.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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my reading sucks??? lol you are the one who does not read properly.
how often do you train mma , have you competed as a martial artist??????
my guess is no!
you are an idiot... seriously.
we have plenty of fat and chubby guys at our dojo, who do not gas and ar strong as hell!
muscle needs oxygene, fat doesnt.... when you need more oxygene = you gas faster!
and above all fighting is a lot of technique! when you're good you're good.. fat or muscular.
get it in your skull....
stick to having your boyfriend take pics of you in the bathroom.... you know shit about mma and shit about drugs.
ACTUALLY I HAVE AND I STARTED AT 15. I WRESTLED IN HIGH SC00L AND C0LLEGE, STARTED BJJ AT 15 AN DID THAT F0R YEARS, ALS0 STRIKING. Y0U PR0VED MY P0INT THAT Y0U STILL HAVE N0 IDEA WHAT I MEANT 0R SAID. Y0U EITHER DID N0T READ 0R JUST A M0R0N. I TAKE THE LATTER.